 It's a unique hustle, boss talk. Yeah, we came from the struggle. Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E-C-E-O, and I'm here with the lovely official, Miss Jamaica. What's up? Nothing, Medell. Lagerdoll. What I did the last time to you this time. Yeah, threw me off. Yes. Yeah, man. Hey, man. Check it, man. Hey, we got a guest in here today, y'all, man. Hey, man. Me and him talked on the phone, man. And we had a solid conversation, man. It's been real, real love ever since me and him started talking. Real enlightening, man. Check it, man. My boy, Supreme, is in the building. What's happening? Hey, man. So Supreme is here. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, I am here. That means the best. Supreme. But where did the name Supreme come from? That means the best. I know that. I know, but was that the initial intent of the name? Yeah. So the name was... And how old were you when you had it? The name was Bob Supreme, right? So in the hood, where I'm from, they called me little Bob. My daddy is Bob. They called me little Bob. And his name ain't Bob, but they would have called him. So they called me little Bob. The Supreme came from, you know, it's the 93 Supreme in my foreign cars. They only smoke the best gas. So that's where Supreme came from. And Yeyo took the Bob off and started calling me Supreme. Wow. That's where they come from. Wow. I had it for a while. Before the music, I was Supreme. Like this ain't gonna do no music. How is it coming up in Fort Worth, man? How is that? You know, I've been in Dallas for 30 years. I came to Fort Worth when I was in the streets. I just was telling you about that off air. But after I kind of joined corporate America, I kind of, you know, I come over there, but it's just going to go to say mineral wells or... I come through to go to, you know, those little weather foot or something. I'm just coming through. You know, I stay close to 20. If I go eight, 20, I'm just going across to get over. You know what I'm saying? Stopping or meeting somebody to drop off a package or some electronic part or something, but not staying in Fort Worth. So what's up with Fort Worth? What part were you from? I'm from the South part of Fort Worth, like Berry Hill. Fort Worth is a unique place, man. It's black gold there, but a lot of it don't get to flourish because of the environment. You know what I'm saying? It's a, you know, it is whatever you didn't heard. So it's a reason why, I mean, you ain't scared of nothing, but it's a reason why you're not stopping. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, Fort Worth is, like I said, it's got some things there, you know, that you can, if you can, I'm going to say this, if you can make it and survive in Fort Worth and still be yourself and not try to be nobody else, you can survive anywhere. Yeah, yeah. Square business. When I first came over there, like I said, I got family over there. I still got family over there to this day. You know, my uncle, he left the country and moved to Fort Worth. And he had a son named Perry just died, actually Perry smelt at one of my cousins. I got, he had about four boys over there. And we all, I would come over there for the, when I was young. My uncle, he talked about when he got scared over there, somebody put a gun on him, he was about eight. He always tell me that story. Yeah, yeah, cause he was in the store messing around. He said, man, Fort Worth, something else, man. You know, his oldest brother was like, he passed away now though, the oldest brother. But yeah, definitely man, when I would come, yeah, you knew where he was at. You know what I'm saying? You know, our people over there, I see. And that's what I do. Like anywhere I go, supreme, I always go to the hood anyway. If I'm in Vegas, I'm in the hood. She'll tell you, she'll be with me. If I'm in Chicago, I'm in the hood. In Chicago, he did the same thing. I go, that's what a good food at. That's where the best food is. That's what I'm talking about, I gotta go to the hood. Two things we look for, we look for the hood and we look for a Jamaican spot. Yeah, yeah. My wife's Jamaican, yes, that's what we do, man. So where would I eat at if I came over to Fort Worth? Best eating spot in Fort Worth. And do y'all have any Jamaican spots over there? Uh-oh. Yeah, they got Jamaican spots. You gotta go to, see, you know, I live in Atlanta. I know you live in Atlanta, but that's your home. Your heart is in Fort Worth. He forgot about Fort Worth. No, he could never get it. He could never, he could never. Damn, what's that place called? I go there when I come home too. I can't, it's gonna come to me while we talking. Okay, okay, don't forget now. I ain't gonna hold you to it. Stormy's is cool, Stormy's is a nice soul food spot. I can't, man, it's gonna come to me. And this is the best Jamaican spot out there. Nah, it's not the best Jamaican, the best Jamaican spot that I knew of, she ain't thermal mode, you know what I'm saying? I've been in Atlanta like six and a half years. Whoa, whoa, you been going, but you frequent, no, you back and forth. I'll be back and forth, but you know what I'm saying, you know, I go to Fort Worth, or I might be in Dallas, or I might, you know, I'd be all over. Why did you move to Atlanta? Um, I was, I was married in Atlanta. Yeah. Was married in Atlanta, so I mean, not married. Nah, I'm happily divorced. Already. So growing up as a youngster in Fort Worth, what did the Supreme strive to do? What did the Supreme strive to be? I'm talking about from, I'm talking about from 10 to 18. All right, so you can tell you the truth? Yeah, the truth. So my mama had me when she was in high school. So I'm a high school baby, so I grew up fast. I learned a lot of stuff quick. You know what I'm saying? I know how to cook dope at 12. Already. But that's not something that I wanted to do. I saw every type of male figure that you could think of, and I would just pick from them the good parts that I thought was good at the time at being an adolescent, you know what I'm saying? Cause you never met your dad? Yeah, my dad deceased, but yeah, I met him. You know what I'm saying? Somebody killed him, you know? But yeah, yeah, yeah, I met him, you know what I'm saying? What was it, how old was you when somebody killed him? I was 12. Oh, you was 12, so you remember? Yeah, yeah, yeah. My dad got shot in the head and I was about five. Mine too. He got shot, but he's still alive. No, he died later on, but he- No, I'm talking, I'm talking- Yeah, but when the bullet hit, it didn't go through and he kept it in his pocket. He better keep it in his pocket. He just kept that bullet in his pocket, it flattened. It reminded him, it reminded him, bro. And Boy Wiley did that, and then my other uncle got killed in the same gambling shack, so it was. Yeah, yeah, I come up, like I said, my other brother, he moved to Fort Worth, so yeah, it was nine boys and five girls. Okay. Yeah, deep, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, like, let's get back to you though. So when you was coming up, you cooked dough, okay, at 12, you knew how to whip. Yeah. So at the end of the day, you was doing it just for him. Did it pay you? See, I didn't, that wasn't, when I was being taught that, I knew what I was being taught, you feel me? But he wasn't gonna let me go up, you know what I'm saying? I wasn't gonna do nothing with it, you know what I'm saying? Of course, but I'm saying that. Okay, he just wanted you to know. Yeah, and when I turned 17, is when I- You got real. Yeah. See, what I'm telling you right now, people don't even know this. No, no, no, I get it. I ain't never said none of this on no other platform. I like that, I like that. I'm just telling you the truth. No, no, because we just, it's real talk, you know what I'm saying? And I appreciate you for sharing, cause somebody else might, I mean, I know I did things when I was young too, you know, for us in the game, you know, for us from city to city, state to state. So we grew up in that way, you know what I'm saying? And now kids is having to deal with different type of deals, but the same. Just like we had. For us drugs, you know what I mean? And for us just hustling and trying to, mom not in the house, dad's been locked up in prison. A lot of the time we started that prison wave when them kids was coming up in the 90s and all that coming up. So now we look at the kids and wonder why, what happened to them? Hell, we what happened to them? Y'all, this how I look at it. I'm in my 30s, right? Yeah, correct. So them cast that was 45 and up, they got rid of y'all. That's right. Y'all got killed off. Or either locked up. Or locked up. That's right. That hurt everything. Cause y'all the live was cats. That's right. I did what I'm saying. The 50s, the mid 40s going on up, those the live is guys. You know what I'm saying? Like our people. And I, you know, they did that to y'all. You feel that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And a lot of them was falsely accused. A lot of stuff was going on where they still trying to get people out of those situations. Still trying to get them out. They did that. They manipulated us with drugs and everything else. And they knew they were manipulating us, throwing quarter pointed on us. We didn't understand, you know, we going in courtroom. We don't have no way to fight or fend for ourselves. We, you know, at the end of the day, some of us did, you know, grab lawyers when it got serious, but we didn't have nobody. And we don't know the court system. Our people didn't, you know, that's not, nobody that looked like us is in there. Most of the time. Yeah. All the time, really. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then, you know, yeah. If they look like us, they ain't our way first. They sold us out. You know what I'm saying? You right. You right. And what I think about when you were telling me what you were doing at 12, I thought about Arcevious, because Arcevious was in the same situation as another guest that was on here. Even North Carolina. Where he was in a dope house, cooking up dope and doing all of that at 12 years old. And he said he had no other choice but to do that because nobody gave him a choice. There was no other avenue. Because my view is always like, there must have been another way. There must have been another option. Because sometimes when we're faced with diversity, I know at that time you're still a kid, so you really don't think outside of the box a lot of times. But a lot of times after something, and you look back on the situation, you're like, you know what? I could have done this instead. I could have done that. I was just blinded to that. You know what I mean? Yeah. The thing with me was that like, I didn't know that it wasn't right or wrong because I see all this, I see the money. You know what I'm saying? But I did know that the people he was, you know what I'm saying? The guy who showed me, he was dealing with like, we knew them. You know what I'm saying? So I was like, well, hold on, you know? But I hung around 17 years old when I was 12. So this wasn't no, like I knew what was going, I've been knowing what was up with me E since I was 12. I knew who I was. I knew what was going on. Like a lot of people didn't, and they still don't now, but I was blessed enough to know who I was at that age. You know what I'm saying? Because those things were happening and they was doing like this. And like she said, you don't think about it until after the fact. You know what I'm saying? Because that's just, for work, the kids grew up fast there. We grew up fast. Yeah. So I'm not the only one, like I ain't telling you nothing. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I get it. I get it. I mean, not only do you grow up fast, but it's a normal thing. Yeah. It becomes normal because everybody around you doing the same thing. You see what I'm saying? So everybody, but you might just do it a little better. Yeah. But you're still doing the same thing. Especially for some single moms, it's normal they accept it because they're like, okay, you go over here and do that. She didn't know. Oh, okay. That's what I was trying to figure out. She still don't know. You done got me in trouble. Yeah. And Boss talks, she don't know that. She's the one, man. She didn't know that. Like she didn't know that. So she didn't catch you with no big money and be like, where did you get that from? And stuff like that. So when I was 17 is when she caught me, E. She got him. Yeah, we was in my partner who was in there cutting it up. In the bathroom? In the room. In the room, man. She bussed through there. She bussed up in there, man. And then another time she caught me, I had a trash bag full in my guns. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And when she caught me that time, like I didn't even say nothing. I just grabbed my stuff and I just left. Wow. And I ain't never go back. Wow. So that's when you, the first time she caught you, what did she say the first time she caught you? I had to get out. I wanted to stay with my granny. Gotta get out of here. Gotta get out of here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's when mama gonna do it. You get put out for a little bit. You come back. Yeah, she let me come back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So gang violence over there, man. It's gang, in Fort Worth, you hear about Bloods and Crips. How did that affect Supreme? So I'm from a Crip neighborhood, you know what I'm saying? And people know what's up with me, you know? But I wasn't just like heavy with it, but I was not even wouldn't say there, but I was there, but it was more than there. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I'm from, that's where I'm from. I see OG Percy when I think, you know, he wrapped like hardcore. You know, I never, never talked to him, never met him a day in my life, but I just seen it. I see him, Nick and Rap though. I'm another way that nigga spit. I was like, that nigga did us justice down there on the 1985 South Shore. I was like, I ain't know what to think when I see him. That's after OG Percy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He definitely, he held it down on that. I was like, man, that nigga can rap, dude. I had never heard him before that day because I wasn't checked into him like that. He's part of that black gold. I was telling him, speaking on this in forward, he's black gold. You know what I'm saying? It's there. Man, so when you were coming up, you was on that side of town. Niggas know what you was with, period. And any kids when you were younger, just... No, no, I just had my first son four years ago. Okay, okay, that's dope. I had a mishap when I was 16, a little thing go on, but yeah, no, that's my first time. Wow, man, that's dope, boy. Yeah, for sure. Man, that's dope, man. Prince O'Shea. How'd that affect you? I went outside to talk on the phone with him. Did you? How did he know before? That's my guy, man. Man, that's dope, man. I was gonna bring him. That's with your ex-wife? Yeah. Look at her. Yo, she pullin', man. She gon' do it. That was a warm-up perspective. That's what you get with us. I think that's what make us different, like the warm-up perspective versus the man that you're talkin'. One thing I realized, the difference between woman and man, and you can tell me if I'm right or wrong, because I noticed that, is that we women are very detailed. We wanna know facts and we wanna... We don't care. We try to tell you every little thing, and y'all are like, okay, just get to the point. That's us. That's with my ex-wife. You're talkin' to my ex-wife. So Supreme single now? Oh, for sure. Ooh. That's it for sure, man. Little in trouble, Dallas in trouble, Hey, look how Supreme is single, nigga. So does he baby live here or in Atlanta? We live in Atlanta. Oh, okay, okay. So he with his mom right now, cause I had to come talk to Boss Talk. But do you got custody of him? No, we, so we... Y'all share it. Yeah, I get him for this amount, she get him for this amount. That's dope. That's what we do, you know what I'm sayin'? Okay, okay, that's cool. Yeah, that's a dope deal. I just took him, he just went back with her yesterday, you know what I'm sayin'? And I flew her this morning. That's dope, man. Like I said, man, I just like the fact that, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the part right there. People don't realize, you know, that means something to him. You know, that he light up when you say, that's the real right there. That's where I'm at with it. Yeah, yeah, he named it, boy. I like that name. The O'Shea is short for ocean. I just took the N, I was gonna name him ocean, but I was like, I'm gonna do this. I like O'Shea though. Prince O'Shea, yeah. I like O'Shea. Yeah, I do too, man. I'm so ashamed of that. Man, congratulations, man, on having a son. Most of them just say, he nigga have no son. You don't really have a little girl or something. He wants more, he, well, do you want more? Yeah, I might do some, I might do some, I might do some one more time, maybe depending on what's going on. Now, if I ain't got no woman, I'm going on a spree. Oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm not gonna do that, but this is the thing with me though. Like I told, say mama, just give him to me. Yeah. Like I want him. At some point, he coming. You ain't got to worry about that boy. Yeah, he's coming soon. 13 or 12 or 13, that boy ain't gonna come with you. He coming before the end. No, no, I'm just saying, at that point. Yeah, he's gonna come. Oh, he ain't gonna be no problem cause he ain't, woman ain't gonna be the, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's something else too. He's something else. He's a lot to handle. Yeah, he's something else. He know who, he got a personality already. You're a cool kid. Like I ain't just saying it cause he mine. Yeah, yeah. The guy is like, he, you know, he know what's going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you have to bring back what you're taking to support work. Is your mom and everybody still in forward? Everybody in forward. Okay, so yeah, he gotta come home. Yeah, sometimes he gotta come and get spoiled by grandma. They were waiting on him. That, yeah, yeah, yeah. I already know it. I already know it. You ain't in the old shape. So how many brothers and sisters you have? I got two younger sisters. Two younger, you're the only boy. I'm the oldest too, yeah. Wow, that's W. And is that the only grandbaby? Is that the only grandbaby? Your son, is that their- No, no, no, she, my mom got, my sister got children. Oh, okay. Yeah, but the trip is, I'm talking about when you were coming up to them two sisters, they're younger like that. You weren't playing by them sisters. Oh, no, no, no, no. You weren't playing at all by them sisters. I had to learn the hard way though. I mean, one time they called me and I went over there and you know what I'm saying? I ended up in the back of a police car. Wow. Then I had an old school partner of mine named Flip. He said, hey, little Bob, let me tell you this. You know, you can go over there and do whatever you're gonna do. He might do it to him. He might do it to you, but whatever go on, she gonna be right back with him. That's right. You know what I'm saying? Since then, I kind of tread softly They don't call me no more, but I'll take them calls like, hey, what's really going on? I'm not finna do that. So you think before you make your move on it. Now I don't blame you on that. You got to, man. Yeah, man, you know how it go. Yeah, so let's get on the music a little bit. I wanna get on the wave of how you end up managing artists from Go Yeyo to Cabe Breezy. Just that whole situation. How did the Go Yeyo and you, how did y'all meet? My home girl, they had a, they knew each other. You know what I'm saying? Yeyo's younger than us. She brought Yeyo to me. I was in Atlanta, we were sitting on the porch, just talking to me, her and my ex-wife. And, you know, we were just talking at this time, this one, Empire was out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cookie Lions was popular. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she act like cookies. So I was like, hey, you need to go on to manage Lil, I called him Lil Pistol Starter. That's what the name I gave him. Okay. You know what I'm saying? This before anything that everybody ever seen, that was the name. He didn't know that, you know what I'm saying? That was a little joke that I had. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he was going to manage Lil Pistol Starter. She was like, nah, I'll be, you need to manage him. I said, manage him. I was like, I don't know, I'll do that. She was like, look, I'ma go get him. I'ma bring him back out here. And she went and got him and brought him back. And we sat in my, in my, in my, my sun room. And he let me hear a boom and dammit man. And like, I told him, I looked at him. I said, hey, I don't know what I'm doing, but we're going to learn this together. Okay. And it's like, I went to sleep, E, and woke up and my phone was going off the hook. Wow. That's what happened. So basically you just got pushed into it with him. Yeah, the music game grabbed me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wasn't looking for it. I didn't know what was going on in forward. I ain't know nothing about none of that. So as I find out about Yeyo, me being who I am, up here, I start peeling back the layers. You feel me? So I found a, a, a spur of boom, a stop six low key, a jail. You feel me? So I was like, there's some whole shit going on down there. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? And that's how I got into it. Yeah. And me and Breezy got together, Sean on a beat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sean on a beat. I talked to him the other day. And my boy, he, you need, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I talked to him. Sean, where you be? I got, yeah, yeah. I actually call him. I try and figure out if I can get him on here. Because what I'm doing, like I tell my wife, I'm trying to get producers to come on and do a listening session. Did she tell y'all she do beats? Yeah, she did. She the only female. So I'm gonna have to bring her back to where Jeff, we do the listening session. That's what I'm trying to do. So Sean, me and Sean was, I think he might have sent me Breezy or... I think that's what happened. Like he was like, hey, check this out, B. And I was like, all right. So I'm checking it out. And as I'm checking it out, she dims me. She was like, hey, we gonna work. And that's what happened. So it was like the universe did that. So did you, have you ever managed anybody outside of Yale and Breezy? Yeah, yeah, I got Kenny B. I got Kenny B, Sean. Yeah, Kenny B. That's me. Yeah, that's our supreme. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had a kid named J.O. I was working with Ms. Deb. I did Kenny B on this show, too. His brother gonna come on here. Okay. Stop six little kids, his brother. Okay. You know what I'm saying? And we'll get to that, but... That's all good. Ms. Deb, I was working with a kid named J.O. with Ms. Deb and Rock Nation wanted him. Okay. You know what I'm saying? He's our Deb. Yeah, yeah. His mama. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I call her me-maw. Already, man. That's dope. And yeah, so yeah, I see the thing with me. So how you can get people to come on, probably not your platform, but to go through interviews and bring my name up with any kind of discretion or like, like any negativity is because I ain't ever failed. That's it. Since I jumped in the game, I'm, you know what I'm saying? I've been on a, you know, and I ain't been doing this long. So you gotta understand, you got a lot of older cats that's been doing this a long time. And they fuck with me. But they're like, how did you do this? My hands ain't dirty or messed up from this E. But let me tell you something. How old were you when you started? Go ahead. How old was I? I started managing. I started managing like. How many years ago? What were we in, two to 21? Six years ago now. Barely six years ago. Yeah, it was my first artist. And I, but I ain't ever stopped. I've been doing this every day for six years. So I've gotten great at it. Yeah. You did what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, that's dope. So that's how you get people to, you know, and I know these people really don't hate me or dislike me because they don't know me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Some of them want to be in my position. They don't want to be me. They want to be in my position. Or they, you know, they just feel some kind of way by themselves and they don't pick, but they, they just be lame. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Do you feel like this is what you were meant to do? Yeah. So, well, I'm gonna say this. This is a stepping stone for what I was meant to do, but I needed to do this. In order to get to that place. In order to get to that, yeah. Yeah. I like it. I like it. So are you, so you and Yeyo, do y'all still have a relationship? Do you talk to him or anything? Nah, he's incarcerated. Yeah, I know that, but. Nah, I don't talk to him. I'm hoping to, so. Do you guys, you guys are okay though, but you can't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, Yeyo ain't never had no problem. You know what I'm saying? Contrary to what people may believe, me and him ain't never had no issue. I left because of the people around him. Yeah. See, I kind of, I have a, I have a gift of kind of norm. Discernment. Yeah, she just don't happy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm telling Yeyo the last day where I'm talking to him with my eyes, like, I'm gone a little bro and I pat him on his back. You feel me? Cause he know I love them. You know, and I know how he felt about me and I had tried to leave prior to that, but he, you know, he was like, nah, big bro, we, we almost there. You can't go in, but I couldn't take it no more than last time. And that's when I, that's when I departed. You feel me? Yeah, yeah. So you departed, once you departed, did you have any other artists at that time that you were managing? I had, I had J.O. Okay, you had J.O. Yeah, J.O. I had Yeyo and J.O. at the same time for show. And then when when Yeyo started working, I already had J.O. going. So, and he was in Atlanta. He was on TV and everything. Going up hip hop, ATL, he was on a little women ATL. Like when he's a dope musician, he sings, he raps, he dance. Where's he at now? He's in forward. And you're not doing, are you? Nah, I don't work with him. Okay, okay. So, you know, you did. But you did have a good run with him. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you know, when, let me see how I can put this, E. When they, when they get away from me or whatever the situation may be, it doesn't always end well for them. That's what I was thinking a while ago. I was about to ask you as like, so when you part your ways, is it that you left them to do better that they move on to somebody bigger or? I mean, when like, so bigger I am, that's me. You feel me? You got that, right? Or to sign to like a major label. But see, see, if I was an artist and me and he was working, I was still taking with me. It don't matter if they sign or not. He coming with me. You the label, he's coming with me. I ain't trying to hear that. Y'all want me to sign this paper we'll get, you know what I'm saying? Get this money. He coming with me. And if he ain't coming, then I'm finna go. But a lot of people are not loyal. No, they don't do that. They don't understand that. You feel me? And that's when I get on. Like I told, I think I told Sean Cotton and I tell you, and I told numerous people that said in that seat, I have trust issues when it comes to artists. I don't trust. You should. I feel like it's like I'm just a bag. Let me tell you something. Did you hear what I just said? Heck yeah. Like I'm just somebody they would want to use for resources and then they gonna do what they do and move on. 83% of them gonna do that. Okay. Kay Breezy is man, like I love that girl. You remember, she ain't never. Flaked. Nah, man. And if it don't matter who it is or what they talking about, you need to talk to Supreme. Wow. You want to talk to them together. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's loyalty. Yeah, for so. You know what I'm saying? And that's from a woman. Yeah. You did. Do you prefer managing woman artists and men artists? She's my only, well, she's... She's your first female artist. She's not really. Well, yeah, she's my first female artist. But I do well with both. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I do well with both. I'm okay. So, go ahead. Because, okay, because I'm hearing, like when you have people and you let them go or, you know, part your ways. Because managing people or dealing with people or even just running a business where you have to be supervising someone else, it's hard because people don't always do what you tell them to do and so forth. Looking back at certain situations that you've been in, do you see where you could have probably handled something different? Because the only person you can control is yourself. You can't control the other person. But do you see certain situations where you could have handled it differently is to have a better outcome that they could probably still be with you right now? Because how you challenge diversity or like you have an issue that come up and you have to handle it. Sometimes the way how you handle things depends, it narrates your outcome. You know what I mean? So do you feel like it's some things that you could have done differently to keep those artists a little longer? Is that what you're saying? No. Why not? I did everything I could. I mean, because, well, I'm gonna say this. And being wiser than I was when I worked with the ones that I started working with, I'm gonna say, of course. But if, and this is not me just feeling like that, if there was no ill doing on my part of there, if I did my job that you asked upon me and then some, because I was way more than a manager, like that manager's shit is I've been past that two, three years ago, Eve, you feel me? Then I'm gonna say, hell nah, because I did that. Like I got you signed. Like you had a muscle shirt on when you came to me, you feel me? And I ain't spent a lot of money to do this, Eve. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't spent no money. Yeah, but see one thing I can say is I can attest to the fact that once something done is done, God is the one who wrote it out. For sure. So basically once it's over, it's over. Yeah. You know, and at the end of the day, I think you exactly where you're supposed to be. I think you dealt with the people that God had put in your life for the time that he had put them in your life. So therefore now you've just evolved. And there's things now, doors that's gonna open for you, that's on a whole another level. And like you said early, I listen good. In order to get to where you at now, you had to go through some of those things. You know what I mean? And you know that you're on path to greatness, even though you've been dealing with great, more greatness to come. No doubt. So, and you feel good about where you at. Yeah, I feel great. But the reason why I ask that question. Ain't got the little boy now. So the reason why I ask that question is the fact that, not for looking past in the back and thinking that I wish I still had them, it's looking at. I wish I still had them though. I ain't gonna, I ain't gonna, you know what I'm saying? It's a good heart, yeah. Yeah, I wish I still had them because I, and they know that too, they just, so I'm gonna cut you off. No, go ahead. The pride, you feel me? Yeah. That's what that is, because them little dudes know what's up with me. They know exactly what's up with me. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes you might have to just reach out and just... You know, I've done that. I worked back with one of them before. I've tried to do things with another one, with all of them, man. I'm really like that, you know what I'm saying? But I was thinking about growth-wise because sometimes you have to look back at some of your failures and really look at them like, okay, how could I handle that differently? Because God have a way of sometimes putting that same situation maybe with a different person back right in front of you because you haven't learned what you need to learn. He's done it. You see what I mean? He's done it. So that's why I say you always have to look back at certain situations and say, because at that time when you're in a situation like what I was talking about earlier, you don't see all of the different avenues that you can take, but now that situation has passed, you can really sit down where there's nobody around, nobody judging you, and you can look back and say, you know what, I could have handled that differently. I could have said it in this way instead of that way, because sometimes saying the smallest little thing in the wrong way can piss somebody off and make you just go in a different way, but it's all about deliverance of how you want to communicate what you need to communicate. Let me ask you this, when Supreme is going through a situation or if he's trying to stretch, who do he talk to? Who's your big bro? I talk to myself, I talk to... You see where I'm coming from, if it's ever? Because I had my mentor die. I had a guy that I would go to, like if I was trying to buy a million dollar building, you know that, and he would tell me, hey, I got five of them, and you see what I'm saying? I got some guys I refuel with, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, you see where I'm coming from? Because you gotta have that. And you can call it mentorship, you can call it just somebody who God put you around, or it could be somebody that you just basically came to know, it could be a quick relationship, kind of like some of the people we've met in Cali and stuff. But those people have to be there because we don't know everything, right? Somebody who is more experienced at whatever you need to know at that time. When it comes to music, and I'm talking about music. I'm gonna tell you this, so I've been blessed enough to be able to call DOC. That's dope, that's dope, that's dope. Baby, he just text me the other day. That's dope. Miss Deb, you feel me? Miss Dope. Who else? You know what I'm saying? I'm pretty slick myself too though. No, no, no, I'm looking at you. I'm listening to you, and I love the way it's something about these managers. You know what I'm talking about. They have this demeanor about it. I'm watching everything. I love to assess what's going on around me. And I'm looking at it, and I thank God for you brothers. I'm being real, because you can tell the ones who really got the right heart for these people. You understand what I'm saying? I'm being real, because somebody gotta be there when things get tough. These artists, a lot of times, need guidance, bro. I'm being real. And if they don't have the right guidance, they can end up sometimes in the wrong contract, sometimes dead, you see what I'm saying? It's all about how you guide that situation, because you got the keys to the car. Yeah, I mean, it's like this too. If I feel like my key won't fit in the ignition, I'm oh, it's time for me to get out of the car. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't exhaust it all. You restarted to see a deal with that individual. I'm gone, I gotta go. You got some gas in the car, you know what I'm saying? You maybe you can get the key in there, but I'm gone. I'm out. I ain't gonna mess with it no more. That's what I do, so then. I don't wanna mess you up on me up. When you go down the street and you die, that's not on me. That's dope. I get it. No, I get it. And then there is again, that's the spirit of discernment where you can see what's up ahead. And you know, it's like Jesus, you turn the other cheek. Pretty much. Yeah. You see where I'm coming from? That's what you've done. Yeah, you already know. Now you see, let me just turn the other cheek. I ain't gonna even go that way because I know what's over there. This ain't, I ain't trying to look cool. These my antennas to the universe. This ain't for, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, man. So, go ahead, I'll let you. I know you got some, I seen you gear it up. So if your shoulder's back, yeah? What is, if I wanted to know, well, I do wanna know, what is the job description of a manager? So, Plus more, because as you said, you're not just a typical manager. Plus more, like what are the things that you do? I'm gonna speak for my section, which is for Worth and Dallas. I fucked the game up and did everything because I didn't know what I was doing, but I felt like I took the calls for the souls and the bookings. I might've spun this to do this. You called me with this, I'm gonna come pick you up. Like you come stay with me. My artist lived with me. Wow. You know, you can live with me, you know what I'm saying? So, but, and I didn't really find out after the fact that the managers, it wasn't, you really gotta have something to manage before I can even try to manage you. That's the part where I've seen that, I've seen that. Didn't I see it? And I would tell each person when they would come to me and ask me about that. I usually would turn it because I'm a business dude. I'll flip it and make it to where they gotta come up with a business or something. To where we can generate some revenue. But I wouldn't do nothing with them for as their brand because you don't have nothing. I created, we created them. You're creating the brand. That's the difference between me. This ain't no, see now I get that. But what gave you the, and I can ask this, what gave you the passion and what made you feel like you could do it and it would be okay? Because I felt like I was helping young black men. That's what this was about. This wasn't about no, the music was just a, that's just how it came to me. But my goal, you know what I'm saying? Before the music, that's what I did. Like I worked at the community center. I did Boy Scouts, you know what I'm saying? Just to help them little dudes or whoever I came across. It wasn't about no money. That's what gave you the courage to do it. When she brought me, yeah, yo, I know what gold looked like. The nigga was live, like I was shit, let's go. We just working to do. You came to me, let's do it. You know what I'm saying? So that's how that happened. It was always to help the young black men. That's a good reason. Yeah, that's the reason. That's your why. That's the absolute truth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's still how I feel right now. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You got man, Caber, he's a beast. So you got Caber. Yeah, she hoes somebody. I really, I need to check in to, uh... Did you finish telling all the things that marriage is supposed to do? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She might want some more. Yeah, what they supposed to do. And what they do, that's who they're with. Or what do you do? You can only speak for yourself. Shit, I didn't done it all. Okay, you said it stayed with you. You booked the shows, you do all of that. What else? I'm kind of like on a, um, like... Your counselor? Yeah, it ain't really don't know, it ain't no... Said they don't live with him. It ain't no know with me. You feel me like this, this, this, cause when we like in this family, you dig it ain't nothing there. The music comes second. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? We doing family shit. I got a question for you. When Kenny B had got into it right in water, what did you say to him? At that airport? I told him, uh... I wasn't managing Kenny then, but I was still talking to Kenny. Oh, you wasn't? No, no, no, no. I still texted him. No, I can speak on it. I told him, I said, uh, um... Well, I can't tell you what I said. Oh, okay. You know what I'm saying? He first started, like he teased him. I like it, I like it. I told him, you know what I'm saying? I told him a few things, like, you know... Yeah, no, no, a big brother in a big brother way. Okay, but that's what you're supposed to do. I'm just saying, you know, cause somebody gotta be a guide. Somebody gotta be a bridge instead of a wall. For sure. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you done got me like this and you ain't really, you know what I'm saying? Well, the thing I say is, and this is the honest truth... I really want to say some names, but we're gonna keep it cool. No, no, we're gonna keep it cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I love the fact that that's the manager part of you. Yeah. That part of you that know, okay, this, you on here, and you know already, the people looking up to you, the people that you done managed already, the people that you gon' manage. Now, you see, cause you all, you still in that whole, you in that field. If somebody don't come, you know, you the one that they can come to and you can show them the game. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? When I get somewhere as game, I eat it to people that's not even my artist. Exactly. So when they look at a podcast or something or look at you on different platforms, then they know, hey man, if I need some, I can go holler at Supreme because he the dopest dude that I see and I love the way he move it. People can tell just by the way you carry yourself. But you like yourself for future artists when you do that. Exactly. Just like when we think about... That's how I got breezy. That real talk. People just see that spirit that permeates. Let me tell you what she said. She said, I see what you're doing in forward and we gonna work. Wow, that's dope. She's from Oak Cliff. She's not from forward. She said that, yeah, that's dope, man. Just like when you think about Flex and Fab, you know, he gets beats from... Zay Tobin. Yeah. But Zay Tobin just does that out of the kind of... Just give it to him. That dude. He was on here too. Zay? No, I'm talking about Flex and Fab. I heard of him. But Zay posted my stuff on this page. Zay is a good dude. Yeah, yeah, I can tell. So I had Yeyo with Zay and I had Kenny B. I saw you in the pictures right now with Zay in the studio in Atlanta. Like, he's a good dude. And I can tell. Me and him, like me and you on the Instagram, we go back and forth. Yeah, he'll do that too. Yeah, he ain't gonna, he hit me back. What do you wanna do with these artists and stuff like that? And I'm like, man, I'm just doing a podcast. I really ain't down with just trying to move nothing with no artists. I'm just bringing it to you. What you about to be when we're done with this? I got a job for you. I got a brain up through. But you're not Atlanta. You're not Atlanta. And I think Atlanta is like music central. Oh, yeah. You've seen everybody. Have you thought about recruiting artists right there? Nah, he's Dallas. So most of the artists is from here. Yeah. So this is a question everybody asked me right there. So it's like, it ain't even, I don't avoid it. You feel me? Like I get people in my DM, you know what I'm saying? From other places. But I just know that, like, man, I'm just so up here with it. You feel me? I just get the game from there and bring it back. Bring it back, yeah. Or it just come to me and I just implement it. You did? I know I talk to people about structure all the time. Like Dallas needs that structure. Needs those people in place to where people can feel like there is a structure in place. Cause when you look at Houston or when you look, you see you got the J Prince over there. Or if you look up on the East Coast, you got, say, Jay-Z up there. Or if you look in Atlanta, you might have a, and you got 1501, you got Carl Crawford, shout out Carl Crawford. But you know, or you got a Jermaine Dupri. You see what I'm saying? We need that structure. You tell you this. We need a structure that people can believe in and they can say, okay, that's a great structure. I love the way they moving in Dallas. It's some people that's in certain particular. Or forward. Particular positions that shouldn't be there. I get it. That's why it's like that. And it ain't gonna get no better. It ain't gonna get no, what you just said, what it's supposed to be until then. Now you having me on here, me coming, is like people know what I am and they know what's up. You feel me? So people that you know, people that I know personally or in these positions and they hold the whole damn DFW back because of a ego or a pride thing. Not know, you don't owe me no money or I had sex with your wife or your woman or I ran over your dog in my car. Not none of that shit is, I know you got some power, E. So you can't come on and boss talk. You ain't coming on here? No, we ain't doing that. No, I know who you is. You feel me? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what going on out here, man. Yeah, yeah. Like I, and when I started with Yaya, it was another cat out there, Mo3, his manager or whatever. It was nobody else doing this. You feel me? Like that at that level. You did. So to answer your question, that's what that is. When those people, and it's the thing, it ain't even about getting them out of where they at. Nigga, do your job properly. Like do what you supposed to do. Stop doing it for yourself. Yeah, yeah. Stop holding these baby issue that you have and spreading them upon a place that's posted flourish. We number four in entertainment in America, but the DFW is a consumer spot. Like they come here and kill the game and get money and go back home. Everybody says that. But people like you, I mean, you are the light in the midst of it. I'm just not really starting to talk. I ain't really been talking. But you know what I'm saying? You're the light in the midst of it. And so maybe you do need to talk. You see what I'm saying? Because people need to know that they do have an avenue where they can come and say, hey, you know what I'm saying? I can go here. I mean, Cabe Rees is a dope artist. I ain't gonna lie. I just said talk with her, bro. And I'm gonna be honest with you. And I seen her work with little Ronnie and the way she moving, man. And just to be a part of that, to be a part of what you guys are doing, you see the professionalism. You see the artistry. It can't be denied. You see what I'm saying? So I can respect that. You know what I'm saying? I'm looking at it. And I'm saying, that's dope. You know what I'm saying? And even like I say, little Ronnie pulled up. He did the show. Top off, shout out top off. But it's been, I love the peace. I love the unity. I love the loyalty. I love when people come together for the city. That's what I like. And that's what I'm gonna stand on. I was standing on that before we even came to this platform. And we would love to see more unity in the city. When I say more unity in the city, I'm talking about each person helping everybody because we all are here. We all want to rep Dallas. We wanna rep Texas. Why should it always be a Houston against Dallas? Or you know what I mean? We're all Texas. Or Dallas against Dallas. Or Dallas against Dallas. You know what I mean? We're all Texas. And a lot has to do with, because I hear so many different things. The egos? It's okay. It's egos. It's communication. Same thing. I'm gonna always go back to the way in which I may talk to you and you don't like the way how I spoke to you. But it's just the way how I talk. I didn't mean nothing by it. Instead of being the bigger person and saying, hey, let's talk about, I'm just trying to educate you on certain things. But you feel like, oh, you trying to educate me. You ain't bigger than me. Who are you to try to educate me? Instead of trying to say, okay, I'm trying to learn. People, as I said, ego, but communication. How I could have said that in a different way for you to really say, okay, let's do work. Let's bring this city together. Let's this. You know what I mean? Communication is essential. And then not only that, you hurt my feelings. Instead of me being mad at you and talking crap about you, pick up the phone and said, man, you know, this is how I felt about it. Yeah, a PGF show was on here the other week. And he said, that's what happened with him and Dorez Deschan. He said that they did that song together. And I can't remember what that song was, right? Now manipulation, maybe? I don't remember. It was something, but anyway, he said that he, Dorez, had got shot. And they were friends and he didn't call him. But he didn't know about it because he would focus on other stuff. But Dorez felt some kind of weight. Because you my homeboy, you ain't to call him. You know him, right? Dorez? Yeah. Okay, he felt some kind of weight about it. But then they was able to finally talk and come together. And straighten it out and then they did that song. But you have situations like that where you have people- But that's the communication like- Right. If you don't do it. People still don't talk up to now because of certain things like that. Yeah, yeah. But that was a dope moment in the shows. They don't talk, they go to the internet. Right. Yeah. And then it escalates from there. For sure. All it takes is picking up the phone and talking to somebody or texting somebody because yes, you don't talk to me and I pick up the phone and call you. You might not answer me. But texts, people go and read that text regardless of whether they want to reply to you or not. They're gonna read that text. People didn't die because they didn't go to the internet. You're right. You're right. They didn't lost their lives. Yeah, you're right. Because the internet, shit. Yeah, you're right. But how can we fix Dallas in a way where- Because I've heard entertainers who live here- I'm telling you- No, no, listen to this. It's not just a certain way. I'm talking in every way because you have entertainers who live here who perform everywhere else, everywhere else to perform, but they don't get love to perform here and get paid here. You know what I mean? You're talking about the ones that's from here, right? From here. I'm talking about when I mean fixed Dallas, fixed Dallas entertainment, people will fly from out of town to come here and perform and get paid really good. Good money. And get all of the excitement, everything from Dallas, and then leave with all of that. Why, how can we fix Dallas entertainment system? I mean, people working together. You're talking to the mandibles, no. I'm talking people working together. Because it starts with, to me, it starts with the managers, it starts with the people above the managers, because if the managers can all come together, they can bring the artists together as well. And, you know, because y'all are the ones in their ears talking to them, the artists, to, you know, get them on a certain level to work together with each other. So the managers, the radio station, the DJs, the club owners. Everybody got to work. It's gonna take a collective, it's everybody. But I'm gonna tell you something, but your girl said earlier that she getting money. You know, it's a lot of them come on this platform that ain't even getting money. They just look the part. You know that, don't you know? They still in the streets. They ain't making that money off of the, a lot of them fake views and all kind of stuff going on. You know that. And they looked the part. And you know, Instagram, like the army, you can be all you can be. You can be whatever you wanna be in the army. You know what I'm saying? You would be anything you wanna be on Instagram. So a lot of times used to, you had to pull up in the Bentley. Now, you could stand beside it. You ain't gotta pull up in it. Pull up in the Bentley that you didn't even own. Yeah, so you know, we don't know. But we do know they getting on here and I'm asking some of them, they like, I'm like, how do you get your money? You know, I'm still in the streets. I'm just being real. I'm popping these questions. Cause I wanna know, I'm a hustler. How you getting that ROI? Yeah. You gotta have some money. Like, you ain't doing no show. You can't get no show with fake views. And you can't get no show if you beef with everybody. You can't get no shows when you beef with everybody. So, how are you getting paid? You look good in your little video with you and your homeboy by four of y'all and y'all getting close with the camera so everybody think it's more than what it is. No, you ain't hearing me. Like these niggas is really trying to pull it off. And then at the end of the day, they fluffed them views or whatever. And next thing you know, everybody tell them, oh, he hot. You know, he them trick the masses. Yeah, it's man say. It's definitely going on. But what I will say is that we have enough dope, dope, male and female artists. We have enough dope, male and female producers. We have enough dope, male and female DJs in the street clubs, in the strip clubs, in on the radio stations to remedy all of that. In one night. Wow. It's really like that. We got everything here. All the flavor is here. That's what they, why you think everybody come here? I think it takes for everybody, because a lot of people can talk about it and nobody don't do anything about it. So I think it takes a group of people coming together, sit down and say, hey, this is what we need to do. Let's start it from here and go out and do this. Plan of action, so to say. Supreme, how does Atlanta versus Dallas? You live in Atlanta. You looking at it from a whole different way, from two different angles. When you look at Dallas and then you look at Atlanta, what is it that you feel like Dallas is missing? Man, so it's like this. And I'm gonna say this, this is what I believe. The talent is in Dallas, Fort Worth and Arlington and these little suburban things, these little cities, whatever. Atlanta got talent, it's talent down there, right? But what they have, they have some of the engineers and the producers is what puts those artists out. But the game is like this. We don't have a Gucci man, a Ludacris, a TI, a Walker Flocka, a Goodie Mob. You know what I'm saying? We don't have a rich homie Kwan, we've never had none of that. So. You had some dope artists here lately that could have formulated and appreciated. You said it could have. We talking about the people I'm saying is on your wall. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. You feel me? They on there for a reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They stumped down, they entrepreneur. But. That's how they ran into me. We have the talent here. You dig what I'm saying? So until the program at the top gets reset and people get out of certain positions, however it's gonna happen, then you will see things that you ain't never thought would happen around. You have, you can literally have, literally. I'm gonna be for real. This includes male and female, 20, 20. I'm gonna say a 20 strong, like you know they Grammy winners in this area. Wow. I'm telling you, it's really like that. This shit is going on. Cause I know because how do you get a K-Breezy? How do you get a Yeyo, a trap boy, yellow, mode three, Erica Banks, an Asian doll, a Tay Monday, a splurge, a Kenny B, a stop six low key, a third essay. You feel me? I could, a Bobby Sessions. Yeah. You feel me? I could keep going. I can really keep going. And they're right here, Jason Lyric. All these people are here. They all are here. So how do you, a little Ronnie Mother F, how do you, how do you have all of this? I just named about 15 people right there. You didn't name them right here at the time. They're here all the time. So what's going on? It's bigger than them. It's the people like what your wife said is, like we have to come and do something, but that's where the game is really fucked up at. There, at the, where I'm at. Yeah. My peers or whatever you want to call them, they're more fucked up than artists. Wow. I'm telling you some real, I'm listening. We're talking real shit. This is for real. And I know everybody personally, I know these cats. So what I'm saying ain't no rebuttal or no, or he lying, he ain't none of that. This for real. And they know that. I get it. You did what I'm saying? No, I get it. See me, I protect everybody while I was protecting everybody. Friends, I ain't doing that no more. I know how you really feel. I know how you feel for real. I know you don't mean it. I know you ain't really feeling it. You know what I'm saying? You know you ain't really like that. Yeah, yeah. We ain't doing that no more cause that's why these kids is dying and they forward for all them motherfuckers is in jail. Wow. They all in jail or they did. You feel me? You don't know about them, but they, the dopest nigga you ever didn't heard of but you ain't never heard them cause you ain't gonna hear them. You feel me? What's the black back in the days? Did you, what did you, what did you do? He's a gentleman and a scholar. The music is so dope. Like I remember meeting the little, the men in the little niggas was, we was at deep in Tom together nigga. Nigga had an army fatigue, nigga. We were out there kicking it, boy. I was a bad dude back then too. Yeah. But, and could play that pool nigga. Take a nigga out. Say it bro, stop it. Yeah, whoop you at one hand. Oh, whoa, that's what the wife said. The wife said it. The wife said it. One hand. Boy, that made me feel good. I'm hooked that nigga with this microphone. Get to that microphone. I just chewed the nigga with the mic. You know what I'm talking about? You ready? I love to do that. That's what I do. I like that, man. Man, I do those things, man. And that doesn't give you a piece, man. Yeah. See people, I'm from Fort Worth and the artists I work with, they, you know, the ones I did work where they ride, ride, whatever. But man, I listened to Layla Hathaway. Already, man. Wait, wait, wait, wait, we gotta get that top three anyway. Top three artists of all time, dead or alive. Come on now. Any genre. Any genre. Everybody have to answer this question. Number one. Male or female? So, number one, it could be any genre. Number one is Mike Jack. Mike Jack. Michael Jackson. Mike, we had a guy over here the other day said Michael Jackson was not even better than Chris Brown. Man, please. We ain't never seen nothing like Michael Jackson, man. I don't even think that dude is from this realm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just telling you, that's different, man. Since he was five, six years old, man. When he hit that, when he had that song, When I Had You, the one that Sammy Davis Jr. I'm not Sammy Davis Jr., but Smokey Robinson wrote it. You know what I mean? And I wonder who's loving you. The one that everybody be doing. Boy, hey, he wasn't but this tall, niggas. Come on, man. And killed it. You ain't never heard nothing come out of no buck. Matter of fact, Smokey Robinson says, you know what? I ain't gonna sing that song. It was my song. You can hear it. It ain't for me, no more. Y'all said three, man, y'all got to do it. You got to give it to Mike first. I got to do it. I got to do it. No, we're not changing the three. We only doing three. No, no, we got to do three. Yeah, everybody that ever been in his platform give us three hard, three the hard way. One and two is usually the easiest ones. And then three, to the hard. Number two. And he love music. That's why it's doing it. Nobody else is favorite. Yeah, yeah. Y'all know who Eddie Mercury is from Queen? Eddie Mercury. Do you know who that is? No. Tell me the song, then maybe I might. From Queen. Man, y'all pull it up. I ain't, y'all got to pull it up. Eddie Mercury. He's dead, he died from AIDS, but he's a... He's a... R&B or what is it? No, he's not even American. Rap? Wow. Y'all ain't never heard of a group Queen? Yeah, I heard of Queen. Yeah, I heard of Queen. We will. Yeah, I know that song. But he, Eddie Mercury himself is the dopest vocalist. Like he's crazy with that. Y'all got to look him up. I like this guy. I got it on vinyl. You hear me? I just love it the way. Now he's your number two. Yeah. I'm gonna go with Eddie Mercury. I like you, man. You all right with me? You coming up with some stuff. I ain't there. You're Eddie Mercury. Yeah, for sure. Michael Jackson, Eddie Mercury. Who's your number three? I know he love music. Number three. Number three. I'm gonna go two pot. Two pot? That's dope. That's dope. What was it about, I ain't gonna say Michael, we talked about that, but what was it about, say Eddie Mercury, what was it? Was it the music? Was it the sound? Well, y'all look it up. The songs that y'all gonna know to him. Y'all know to him. Sorry, y'all didn't know who was behind it. Who was behind it. Yeah, so Eddie Mercury, man, he just, that dude dope, man. He's one of, I could've went anywhere with it. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna give it to Eddie. And what about two pot? What make you like two pot? You know, I just, you know, I can look at what's real though. I can look at what's real outside of the rap and in the rap because his message is still going on today. I just told one of my partners that's about to be 30, what was some that I heard Pac say, it's the truth though, but it was like, you don't really hear too many loud mouth 30 year olds. You feel me? Because the world and broke them down. But whatever happened, they ain't too many loud 30 year olds. You feel me? You get to a point where you're not as loud as you were when you was 23, 24, 19, 20, 21 or whatever. You know what I'm saying? That's so his message. And I was just watching him when he did his jail interview like two weeks ago, maybe less than that. Just to get that game, man. I'm dude, I'm dude full of game. Wow, I'm going to break out some now. What who's the dopest artist ever ever come through? Who the dopest lyricist to ever come through the Dallas Fort Worth area? Lyricist? Come from come from here. The dopest or just the best artist to ever come through Dallas, Texas, Fort Worth, Texas. Capri easy. Oh, yeah. Easy, easy. Now, y'all even, I mean, what she did was just cool. You feel it? That's cool. And that girl is, that girl is, that's Missy Elliott, like 2.0, like in real life though. Wow. I'm for real. No, no, no, no. I just, I felt her. Yeah, that's, that's- Like, you can feel it. You can feel it. She said a real deal. It's like sticking your hand over that bi-electric socket. You can feel it. She said a real deal. Yeah, I know it's real. You ain't got to tell me. And I've been around, like, like, what's buddy names you got in jail? Mr. Luchy is dope at rapping. Yeah, yeah. Mode three was Phenom Phenom. Yeah. Goyeo has everything you want when it comes to that shit that's on your wall. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In real life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Capri easy, like her work ethic, how solid she is, like, so you don't give many people that can make the beat, write the hook, and put the raps down. They don't, they don't do that. Wow. Pimp C do that. For real. Wait a minute, you heard that? See it again? The pimp. That nigga do that. The pimp. I try to tell people- The pimp do that. That did it well. Yeah, for real, Williams, he do that. For real, do that. Timberlin used to do that a little bit. Timberlin used to do it. He didn't do it on the level that they did it. Kanye West do that. Kanye West do that. Yeah. Now we talking. See, I didn't say- I like this. See what I'm saying? I'm just telling you, I'm talking about what's really going down. Like, you don't find that, that's not normal. Yeah. And I know that. And she's a female, so don't do that. And she a female. And she a female. And she a female. Man, Breezy didn't help some of the bigger artists in the DFW. I'm not gonna say their names with their songs. Wow. I believe it. I'm telling you, I can feel their energy, bro. Real talk. And she ain't done either. I know. I can't wait to see y'all, you know, where y'all whip it up. I'm gonna say this, too, though. I'm gonna just say this, E. So some of the people that you hang with, man, they ain't like, you don't hang with them, but you- I don't hang with nobody. Yeah, let me get that right. Oh, I'm sorry, baby. No, no, no, no. You know what I'm saying? Like they, man, like they, they not right, E. Yeah. And they in certain positions. And they- So you're saying some of the people that done been on the show. Hell yeah. That's what you say. And some that you've mentioned. And some of them, you don't know. Like East Texas folks, some of those people. Nah, not them. I'm talking about these cats. Out of Dallas and Fort Worth. Yeah, you know them. You've said they, like, you know what I'm saying? They try their best to take this girl down, man. Like for no reason. But the thing is, you, as a manager, though, you're supposed to excel all that. We do, we do that. And I love the new music I just seen. So I know it's on a whole other level. They can't stop this. But at the end of- Okay, I wanna say this. Okay. But in everything that you do- She doesn't shut me down. She says, okay. In everything that you do, you always have to turn a negative into a positive. Or else, if you consume yourself with negativity, it's not gonna- It slows down production. It slows down production. It's not gonna produce anything for you. It slows you down. When I say that, when I say that, meaning all those people that you're talking about that try to take her down, don't look at it in that way. That is trials to make you stronger. Mm-hmm, that's dope. You wanna understand what I mean? You don't look, because if no trials ever come, there's no elevation for you. Yeah. And sometimes those trials can make you elevate even faster because if they keep coming and you stay positive, you're gonna keep on elevating even quicker. And that's probably the reason why you're in a life. But the thing I can say is, see that wall you was talking about a while ago? Those people, that white guy right there, Steve Madden. That's the shoe guy. He worth a hundred and some million dollars. One of the coolest cats when I talk to him, you see him with my wife down there. You keep seeing him on the wall. But the more you see these people and you deal with these people who are on the next level, they don't, they focused on them. They can't see nothing else. And every time we talk, the conversation is going like that. I'm being real. Mm-hmm. And that's what I found out. The more it seemed like the more success that they gained, the more the lighter things became. Does that make sense to you? Yeah. You see what I'm saying? And it's so dope when you talk to him that it's so dope because you do like, dang, it's a spirit they have. Even time, and I don't even have Andy Hilfiger up there when me and him talk. Tell me Hilfiger brother, he's younger brother. I got, well, I got pictures of him up there, bro. Yeah. I deal with a lot of people, man. Me and my wife, if we ended up in a lot of places in our life, and I thank God for it. But those people showed me something about. Y'all some good people, man. Yeah. They showed me something, man. I went and came over here. Man, we appreciate you for coming. But they showed me a lot, man. They showed me a lot about what it takes to be really successful, man. And it make you think, and I found it in, in Mack McKay, the one who pretty much, I told you my mentor that he was a white guy. But I'm just saying that I've seen that same spirit. And that's how I know that this is the one I need to be around. Like spirits that's gonna push me to the next level. I have no time to hang out with ducks when I'm an eagle. Yeah. That's what, look, and you ain't got no time to hang out with eagles when you a dragon, E. Real talk. You feel me? Real talk. I'm in dragon mode right now. Yeah, I like it. I like it. Negativity will come. Don't worry about that. Negativity will come because God put these things at trial and tribulations. Jesus was tried. He was, he did all that. So why you don't think that we gon' get that, too? You don't go through it, too. You understand what I mean? But it's growth. That's all you have to look at it. Because a lot of times too many people dwell on the negativity. And I talk to people about that all the time. Family members. People who can't forgive people for different things in their lives and they don't realize why their life isn't going the way they want to. Whether it be they can't find the right woman or either kids are acting out or just whatever it is. You have to have that positivity in your life so that the people that you love around you can feed off of that. Well, I'm looking at Supreme as being, I mean, he could be the one to bring Dallas and Fort Worth back together for as a whole. I'm being real. I look on a whole another level when I think about things. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't, I see, you know what? Jay-Z said something one time that was so funny when he was on that Every Day I'm Hustling remix. He said, I'm in the air. I don't hear a nigga's corny raps. You know what I'm saying? Like, where I'm at? Where I'm at? I don't even hear him. Like, we go in places and then he went and got that billion. You see what I'm saying? That's where we at with it. And like I say, when I look at you and I look at the talent in you and the way your demeanor is, that's the part that's gonna take the whole thing where it need to be. Focus on progression. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah. That's the dopest thing that I've seen in you when I met you in person and on the phone. Your demeanor hadn't changed. Yeah. And that's what a good manager is. I know what a good, I'm a dude that deal with people. You know I am. A good manager don't never change. Oh yeah. He always in the same composure. For sure. I've seen it all the time, bro. It ain't nothing new. I know what comes to my mind is that when one door closed, two more will open. Two more will show. But you know what is part that kills all of us as human beings is the fact that we have no patience to wait till those other two doors open. Yeah. Because when the door closed and we're so mad and we get so focused on certain things. The way some, you know. Because that's the one thing I always pray about is the fact that just helped me with my patience because I- With me for sure, right? With you some. I know that a lot of times. That's why this podcast which I was doing is needed. It's important. Because of the message that y'all kicking. See most of these platforms, if you come on their talk, they'll let them folk come on there and say anything. And they're on there asking them particular questions to get, you dig what I'm saying. But we care about the person. Your story is way more important than all that. Yeah, see they can't do it like that, no. No, I'm talking about your legacy though. For us, I know for me, I like to hear what make you tick because that's what's gonna help somebody else to tick. You get it? It can't help nobody else. So all that other stuff won't help nobody. In this platform, Boss Talk 101, Boss Talk 101 was put here to help bosses to talk to each other on a whole another level. You know what I mean? And also to get to the root of certain situations because even we talk about generational sin. We won't say the word curse. Yeah, we'll tell you that. We change that. Because then examples say, you're not, but say you are an abusive man to your woman. And then we're like, why are you like that? Why are you like that? But then your dad was the same way to your mom. But that's what you grew up seeing. But people who just see you beating up on your wife don't know that. You just so mean he's, but it starts from somewhere. All of that comes from somewhere. But people don't take the time to find out, okay, why are you like that? And sometimes you don't even know why you're like that. You know, because there's so many people, since we started this, I realized that a lot of people, cause older people have been coming on. And they said, they realized the reason why they acted out as a child because whether they were raised by a single mom, their dad was never there. And they, at that time they did not realize that that's the reason why they had all of that tension, all of that, you know, built up, that why they were acting out. Yes, they loved their mom, but they couldn't, they didn't have that male role model to say, sit down, this is what, you know, cause boys listen to their mom somewhat with certain things, but not like a man. Yeah, nah. You know what I mean? My little boy right now, he know what's going on with his mama, and he know what's going on with me. He know that right now at four years old. Kids on a whole, they know what to come to their moms for, and what to go to their dads for. You know what I mean? So I said that to show that there's always a route to something. Yeah. People don't look for the route. People just see what they see and just react to it. Yeah. I'm gonna say something, you know, when I look at our whole situation, something that came to my mind, you know, I thought about this right here, and my boy did this right here. You know what I'm saying? Nah, you got it. Nah, nah, listen. Listen. When I heard him do this, when he did him, when he came home. Yeah. Bro, it ain't nothing that a person can't knock down. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah. It ain't nothing that a person can't change. I'm a real, look, man, you can change. It starts here, it's a mental thing. He said, see, you know how much money we can make if it change. You know what I mean? And it can. Now, it might not, but it could. Dallas could be so much better. Dallas Fort Worth. Dallas Fort Worth. Dallas Fort Worth, all into the Grand Prairie, all that. Come on, man. Y'all know Post Malone down the street some down the road. I know it, man. But at the end of the day, I don't see this right here. For me, listen to me. I don't play with it. I don't even care. Listen, you mind. I don't care about that other stuff. I'm being real. I don't expect none from that other stuff. But from you, when I look at you, you look like me. So that's what I'm concerned myself with. Not trying to be mean, but what I've been through, Post Malone ain't been through, brother. For sure. What you've been through, Post Malone ain't been through, brother. And not to say that, we don't have a lot of diversity here. Correct. We love them, but it ain't the same, bro. I'm just a realist. I'm being real, bro. I gotta be real. I can't be nothing else. Get the mic, take the mic from me. I gotta be real, bro. I can't, I don't listen to Eminem. Everybody, are you the best rapper alive for somebody, but for me? No. You know what I'm saying? It's a difference, bro. And I ain't got time to play with it because these are my people. That's why this black owned business been here 15 years, going on 16 years. That's why I pulled up on Nipsey Hustle. At the marathon. That's why I pulled up on Gary at the Purple Carpet in Miami. That's why I pulled up on, when we see Junebub. And don't expect nothing from nobody else to do the same for us. I pulled up on whoever doing Ben. That's why I pulled up on Sean Codden in the day. Cause I love black businesses, bro. You know what I'm saying? Don't matter to me about, and I'm not trying to be funny, but I want to see us do better as a people, man. You know what I'm saying? And I can't set up here and pull you up with negativity. I gotta pull you up with positivity. You see what I'm saying? Cause God plays each and every one of us in everybody's life for a reason. Yeah. You understand what I mean? Sometimes you'd be like, why is that person hanging with that person? That person can stop that person from doing something crazy one day down the line and you don't realize that it's because of that influence. But Kay Breeze is seeing something in you, bro. Yeah. You said that. She know what's going on. Did you hear what I just said? Yeah. That's serious, bro. Yeah. That ain't nothing to play with. She know what's up. Did you hear what I just said? Yes, sir. That's dope, man. And let me tell you, a lot of people- I seen something in you. Oh, yeah? What was it? I'm here. Oh, that's my guy. And you know, people who have known us for years before, you just met us now, but people have known us for years before this podcast. I've always heard him say, even now, to him, that this has always been you. Yeah, they always say that. How you talk, how you are, what you say. You made for this, you made for this, I'm like- He doesn't sugarcoat anything. He says whatever is on the top of his head, that's just how he is. He might talk a little bit too much, but- Whoa, whoa, whoa, now that's what it's show about, then. You don't have to talk about it. See somebody, he shaking his head back there. That what you talking about, my son? No, black. Black don't know nothing, black don't crack, but black don't know how to act, you know what I'm saying? Black, you turn around, black look like he's for a business. He stay with me, that's my guy. Black do him back there, baby. He stay here with me, that's my guy, that's my guy. He always around, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't black. You don't see family, you don't see family come in, man. We don't remember. He's been here with me ever since, before I started this. You know, people that been here, I thank God for. He can remember, I put him on his first video. Yeah, I said, he's like, man, I don't do that, E. I'm like, no, man, I need you on this, just stand there and say this, and yeah, yeah, black brought it, man. Spook up through, shout out to Spook, man. Spook, Spook, Spook, Spook come through, baby. You know what I'm saying? And that's my, that's my guy, man. So what would you tell a young- I see how you wrote it, E. Hey, what would you tell a young dude that's trying to be a manager in Dallas or in Fort Worth? So- And he got an artist come to him and he's never done it before. Just like how that first time when they came to you. What would you tell him to prefer him for what he about to deal with, man? So I'm actually talking to a guy now and that land of that family on the internet and he wants to be a manager. So I just basically, you know, man, so nowadays, see what happened to me was a blessing. Yeah. Yeah, yo was, it's not man like him, you know what I'm saying? So like the artist has to be something to manage. Now you can pull some shit out the dirt and make it into a diamond, but how many times do that happen? Yeah, that ain't no. So the advice will be pretty much decided on the artist. You get what I'm saying? Or if I see something in them, or if I like them, if they trying to be a manager, cause I gave away so much free game, he like, then I felt like it was being taken advantage of. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So now I'm real particular. I still slip up and give it, cause it's just in me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm kind of particular about what I tell people and who I tell it to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I don't really got no advice for them, man. Just if y'all watching- They gotta watch you. Just hit me up and then we can go from there. I'ma look at what's going on, I'ma handle it accordingly. It's gonna be nothing negative though, you know what I'm saying? But that's how I get out nowadays. Man, I love- I have one last question. I love his energy. You're dope dude, man. He is. I appreciate it. I'm telling you, I know a lot of people, bro. I know you know. I know a lot of people, bro. I know a lot. I'm talking about- I know you do. I'm gonna figure it out quick. I'll tell you on the phone now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My question is whether you intentionally do this or not, but when you meet an artist, do you over a period of time, do you like test them? Give them certain tests that you created and you're like, you know, just to see how they react. So you know if they're gonna be loyal, true. So I would say it wouldn't- Yeah, I test them, but it's not a test, you know what I'm saying? Because eventually it's gonna come out. I know eventually, but sometimes you feel like you don't wanna waste your time sometimes, you know what I mean? Especially when you've been burnt some of the times. I already know before I even do that, like even have a second conversation with them where it's gonna go. I've been, I know what's up now when it comes to that. So I know me talking on the phone with you is I can't do this. This ain't what I'm talking about. This ain't, we ain't doing that, you know what I'm saying? So there ain't nothing they could tell me or show me it's gonna, like, other than who they are. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You can't trick me no more. Yeah, yeah. Now, and if you trick me, you should turn. You the devil. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You buy me, you the devil. Already. For real. No, no, I get it. Well, hey man, I'm gonna tell you, man, I appreciate you for coming on the show, bro. Appreciate you. Say, man, we love you, bro. I love you. And at the end of the day, when you come here, if you got an artist you're breaking, you're welcome here, man. For sure. You got somebody that you... Let me say this real friendly. You say, can it be brother? Stop Six low key is the God of Fort Worth and Stop Six. Stop Six is the most known neighborhood in Fort Worth. He run that whole thing. Okay. He in Atlanta right now. Okay. Though that say is, from here, he's more than just a Hispanic artist. He's a dope individual. He owns a dispensary. He's a jeweler. And he's a dope ass artist. Wow. You feel me? Yeah. And I got, and you already know about what's up with K-Bridge. So my artist on autopilot, you feel me? They know what's going on with themselves. They know what's up with me. They don't try to overload me. I don't overload them. I talk to all of them every day. Man, thank you so much for coming on the show, man. I didn't do this, man. Hold on, you gotta lock it up, though. Oh, you gotta lock it up. Okay, show's real. See, I ain't know that, but I can learn. You see what I'm saying? My boy, Supreme, just showed me how to lock it up. You never gonna have to lock up. If you can't lock new, we know you ain't real. No, you ain't real. I'll let your boy, man. It's a unique hustle, man. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. Boss Talk. Yes, sir.