 But we talked about kind of funny a lot and I was listening to one of their gamecasts one of the most more recent ones and They talked about How while one of the rumors has also said that Mario whatever the Mario 3d game is gonna be a release game So I'm gonna kind of pose this question to you Nate Do you think that it'd be wise to release their Mario? Whatever their new Mario game is like the 3d world not Mario 3d world But the Mario in a 3d space like a huge Mario game alongside their Zelda game as a launch title Or do you think it'd be best to stagger those out? Pardon me once I'll say it's it's better to stagger them but again This all depends what the actual first-year lineup is for the system if they've got like 12 massive games hitting Next year which would be you know less that'd be over one game a month. Yeah Then they absolutely should launch with Mario and Zelda especially if they know, you know a month later You know that's when they have Pikmin coming or a month after that They have Pokemon stars in a month after that they have you know the new Smash Bros. Or whatever like whatever they have lined up like if they have such a killer first-year lineup to me You almost should because I know there's the argument over. Oh, you really should only have one killer game at launch. Why? Not everyone cares about Breath of the Wild and Mario is a much bigger franchise Then Zelda in terms of popularity So you could argue it almost makes sense to delay Zelda for so Mario can have the spotlight But they're both gonna have like equal spotlight when you go to pick up a switch There's gonna be a giant Mario and giant Breath of the Wild banner like you're if you like Nintendo games You're gonna grab both day one. It's just gonna happen I don't think Nintendo needs to concern itself Especially if they know the switch is coming in at a killer price like if they know hey 250 people buy a couple games with it like that's that's a good price. That's a good deal You know for basically what you could buy the Nintendo Wii U deluxe version on its own You could end up having the switch with Zelda and Mario Like that's huge and I think also what people have to remember is that Breath of the Wild is not exclusive to the switch That's true It's also a Wii U game Which means that While it would be a killer game at launch It's hard for me to be like man the killer game at the launch of the switch is a cross-platform game So it almost feels like there's actually room for that Mario game to also be there at launch because It would be exclusive. So like you might be able to make the argument at lunch I'll just get Breath of the Wild for Wii U, but you can't get the new Mario game for Wii U So I can kind of see both scenarios I think if it exists at all like if Mario's coming at launch, I could see why they might purposely delay Zelda Because Zelda's not an exclusive But I can also see a world where it's really some both. They're ready to go What? You can't have too much too many good games at the launch of a console You know Mario and zombie you was kind of like the big combination for the Wii U Why can't it be Zelda and Mario like? That's one of the things to like I don't know why you want you want a console Pusher game to come out as your as your opening release games So Mario makes sense. Like that's that's probably the most recognizable name in video games. Um so mascot for and uh So like that makes sense to have that as a system seller And if you think about it a lot of people even some of the people that have commented on our facebook page We have commented on on our posts have said that they're probably just going to end up picking up the Wii U version At launch like they don't know if they're going to get a switch yet. So if Let's say theoretically if half of the people pay or pick up the Wii U version and half the people pick up the switch that means that It's not pushing systems like like a Mario game would like they're not getting Yeah, they're not getting you don't have to buy the switch to play that game That that's that's kind of like um Maybe think about any not that this is a cross-platform game But in a way it is it's like saying oh, I want Call of Duty Specifically for the PlayStation 4 so i'm going to go buy a PlayStation 4 even though I have an Xbox one It doesn't really make that much sense to a lot of people to us to hardcore nintendo fans We're like, of course I'll go buy a switch day one even if it's like a brick that says switch will be here in two months like Probably uh probably that'll be my pre-order um but That's that's not for everyone not everyone's going to jump on the switch bandwagon right away and they're going to want to play Breath of the Wild right away Um because there are fans and we'll get to this topic a little later with the fan topics There are fans that feel like they've been burned by nintendo um by By pushing the release date of zelda What was originally zelda u way way way further back than they ever thought it was going to be um and They're also burned by the fact that it's now a cross-platform game that the quote-unquote definitive edition with a better graphics and better frame rate Is going to be on the switch And so that you know that doesn't sit well with him but Moving on and this is this isn't really news, but this is something that I kind of want to just just like Think about for a second so Very a few days ago major's mask released on the wii virtual console Um, this is like no surprise. They're they're just going to keep putting out these games um on the virtual console but With the we use second screen um And I know that this is like a You know the we use dying But do you think it would have been a better use? Or do you think it's okay well two questions. Do you think it would have been a better use to put the 3ds version on the wii? or just to Or do you think it's even worth it to put major's mask on the virtual console for the wii you in general? Like do you think anyone's really going to play it now? Do you think it's really going to be that like? You know big of a seller on the virtual console. I guess not really a topic But I was just kind of thinking about this the other day like when it came out. I was like, okay, but you know Not that again, I love major's mask, but like who really cares that it's on the wii virtual console now um I mean That we use dying out. So it's easy to argue Uh that adding anything to the virtual library really isn't worthwhile Uh, but at the same time it doesn't cost Nintendo anything to really do it And they might get some sales and people might be hoping Like the wii that you could transfer these these sales to the to the switch in some form We have no idea if that's going to happen. Hopefully we find out that news in january, but I I think I mean like like you said, you know bringing the 3ds version over. I don't really think that that Matters to be honest. Yeah, the 3ds version isn't in hd It would have to be remastered again to even make it look good on on a home console And on top of that This is the virtual console. So it's supposed to be the classic games as you remember them That's true And majora's mass 3d isn't as you remember majora's mask It was actually funny because I was reading a comment on facebook today about a post that that we made the other day about How was a hyrule field being remade in unreal engine 4? Which is like the third different version of this we've had posted out there and the comments like I don't really like that this version in unreal engine 4 looks so glum and like, you know Look so dark and I'm like, well, here is the original trailer for ocarina of time Like the the actual opening for the original game. It's dark. It's glum. In fact, the whole game feels that way And some of that was because the n64 did have kind of an issue where like all like all games Basically got a little washed a little bit. Uh, so it made things appear darker than they were meant to be So some of that isn't necessarily maybe what the game intended, but that's what the game felt like So You know, I look at it like with majora's mask. It's all bright and everything On the 3ds just like ocarina time 3d is which maybe that's what the original vision vision for the game is But that's not what me as a player experienced back in 2000 So, uh, I I like that. It's the original version. I hate that For some reason they released it and people who have it on their console already aren't getting the $2 Thing. Yeah, that's that sucks. Like that should never happen They should never release a game of virtual console without testing out How well it works with that discount system Um, to me, that's just a massive oversight. I don't know how that got out of testing to go live um At the same time the Wii virtual console has been extremely disappointing And I don't just mean from like a game release standpoint And how weird it is that every new console they released they have to reset the whole virtual console. That's just weird Which I understand why because they keep changing architecture But they really need to streamline that more and hopefully the switch is the beginning of of them doing that. Hopefully hopefully but People like anyone who plays the original games or like even now if you have the if you're lucky enough to have the NES classic edition Those games look like the games were originally supposed to be Yeah So if you look at the virtual console, you know compared to like the NES classic edition or Even like the original games And uh original systems that came out on like Nintendo 64 Super Nintendo, etc Uh, the games that we you are not emulated very well Uh, they have a lot of I guess input lag. Uh, they're also extremely washed out even more than like the original n64 was so The Wii U virtual console isn't good anyways My only hope is that they allow you to transfer the game to the switch and that Emulation is fixed on the switch because as it has proven with the NES classic edition Nintendo does know how to emulate their own games really really well Uh Just the Wii U does not do that Yeah, like it's it's done well on the 3ds. Also, um Like we have uh, at least I was playing a adventure of link the other day. Um, and It was it was pretty good. Uh, it's all the two. Sorry the adventure link. It was really good. It was it was Well done emulated on on the 3ds But you're not going to get that type of emulation on On the Wii U. It's sadly this this is not going to happen I don't know why I don't know if Nintendo has ever even said why the emulation is just so bad I don't know And like you figure it's it's more than powerful enough to run this stuff Well, and it's weird because the we had okay emulation on it and then what we have with the Wii U is is not No, not as great, which is bizarre. Um, so Yeah, I mean, I'm glad it's the original version because that's what should be on a virtual console Uh, I just I don't know. I I guess I'm kind of with you like I don't really know why they're still releasing virtual console games to be honest Yeah I mean, I mean, I guess You know, maybe it's to fulfill that promise where they said hey, we're not done supporting the Wii U Yeah, if that's the support then I think they need to be done. Um Well, what are they still releasing virtual console virtual console games on the Wii? Yeah, no, they were they they kept going for some reason and then they shut down the shop or the shop Doesn't work or whatever might just be because I have homebrew on my Wii, but I think they they got rid of all their online services That might be it because I know the Wii connect 24 thing died a long time ago Um, which is I still don't didn't really understand what that was. Um, but yeah, we're kind of in agreement there. Um, Nate