 It's always like time travelling, you're seeing those scenes and you really can feel the spirit of those events and what they mean to us, so thank you very much. You can see to the left of me Sandra and Thies, who I'll introduce properly shortly, but first a round of applause to you. You can feel it from everyone who watched the stream and it seems like you've just felt it, so thank you very much and also thank you for providing the film to us to show and quick note to everyone watching, we have a pad which is already filled with questions, you can find the link in the far plan and you can still add questions as we go. So let's tune in and see what we got from the internet. How were the animations made? Okay, so we're heading right in. I would be interested in whether people re-watch the movie or watch the movie for the first time. So let's get to the question. The animations were a cooperation with Tom Frigui, it's his name. He's an animation artist which I've known for a long time and I knew that his style is exactly what I envisioned for my film, so I wrote the text and described my vision to him and he provided me with a storyboard and he animated that in what he calls 2D 3D or was it 3D 2D? 2D 3D. So it's nice and neat but still 3D. Did you take him to the events, the CCC events or was it just... I kind of soaked up the material and put it on his desk. So of course he saw the movie and I provided him with the slots where he would add in his animations. Yeah that was in 2017, we still had some empty slots where I told him to add in the animation and I tried to explain to him. Well yeah, he watched the film, what I had so far, the material and I explained the whole thing to him and that's how we did it but his animations are always like you've seen in the movie so that is why I asked him to do my animation. Yeah they're very unique. Next question, what do the birds mean and do they have anything to do with birds aren't real? The birds, the big birds. Why birds? Birds are a swarm and I thought that was a nice image and also the associations with various sayings like birds of a feather. So it wasn't just real birds but also animated birds, like a mix between of the two and it was John's idea because I added so many pixels like I blurred so many people that didn't want to be filmed because of course people have to give consent before I can add them into the movie and then yeah of course I had to blur many scenes and that sometimes I liked the blurring and I added in additional blurring and so that was John's idea and the real escalation was the following Congress. Well for me as not being in the loop what is birds aren't real? Is it something that I should know? What does that mean? Are the birds really campers or? And one Congress there was an escalation but over the four days it started with birds aren't real and then all kinds of things suddenly weren't real. Does it have anything to do with those birds? I didn't know the origin. That's what I thought it was. Well I wasn't there. I don't know if I started that meme. I think it was something else. Everyone needs to know what they associate different things with because everyone has a different experience of the Congress. Okay we have some latencies. Sorry to the viewers. That was my great concern when I was making the film. I was always afraid that my vision wouldn't be understood but I think I managed to find an angle that everyone can understand and get into. Yeah at one premiere in Berlin I think you said that many of the raw data could be put into a pool where people could choose and pick their own ideas and remix them and in use about that would you need support for that? Well there was an idea to do that with a few people who wanted to do that but it turns out it's a great bunch of material which I had to sift through because they can't all be published with a CC license because in much of the materials people could be in the film that wouldn't want to be in the film or we couldn't ask but if somebody wanted to host that kind of material and make it accessible then they can feel free to approach me because the question would also be what to do with that material because if I just want to use two or three images and have to download a terabyte in order to do so that would make it difficult so we would need to find a way to do that in a way that it makes sense so I'd be happy to see remixes and stuff. On the internet I saw that your film is now under CC license in celebration of Wikimedia's 20th anniversary. What's the story behind that and what could people do with the material? While I was filming it became clear to me that I would want to publish it under a CC license and in the end of the film I just clicked into it. Well everyone is contributing to something to the community and the whole thing only works because we all work together and I think not just because of the community it's just my opinion that it would be sad to let this film rot somewhere in the drawer so it only makes sense to me to publish it that way and wiki comments have abused the violations towards using their licenses and I just recently gave it into wiki comments and there's also some additional material for people who want to use the film in educational contexts and I think the basic prerequisite for more films to be published that way in the end there are systems and laws that you have to that you have to keep and sometimes well financial issues are also part of that I was lucky to have 100% financing by the community which made my project possible and I'm working on a systemic approach to those issues in order to enable more people to make films like that and also support film communities that don't have it as easy as I did yeah let's get you into the supervisory boards necessary to do that thank you very much for your work I'm more of an audio junkie myself with the content from Deutschland Radio and so on and I'm also sad to always see material taken down because of copyright issues that plays into another question that was asked how about the financing was your way able to make your film lossless how was the starting phase well yeah getting funds is really tedious I can tell you that the good thing is once you've made it you have already an audience a target audience who want to see the film because they've contributed to the financing that's a good thing but crowdfunding is not a solution to all problems and well German taxpayers are paying into the into funds for the media but still the public media in Germany aren't able to completely finance their projects as well so it's no wonder that filmmakers are having a difficult time funding their projects and well that's also the thing with publicly produced media being taken down and that that makes it so that you basically have to sell your movie you're forced to sell your movie in the end you're a very good example in that direction another question are similar projects planned so I was always asked so when are you going to make the next one so I don't want to do the same movie two three five four times so we're not going to see all creatures welcome reloaded but at rc3 I created a music video for for a song that he's created and that's going to be released before this devock is over and I'm working on something that might be something like all creatures welcome but especially for children and these these are long-term projects and what I'm working on the most right now what I want to make it a film project and I want to work on accessibility and availability and that's what I'm working on and I'm sure you'll hear about it at a certain point in time and of course that will be made available 3d as well so so we're calling that latency so one question that connects very well so is there is there a soundtrack I really love the music and I would love to add that to my music list tease so Sunday morning between five and six we are going to play the soundtrack in a special dj set version and will be made available on bandcamp directly for download including new tracks new versions and the various bits and pieces that were released individually I've collected them all and reworked them and this is kind of the final version and that will be available right away on sunday for everybody to download so so please take the time to actually download it at bandcamp instead of just streaming it because it will sound so much better download it it will be free of charge and if you want to pay something that's fantastic but don't feel obliged to and it's it's it's a lot more fun to have it on your own hard disk so I'm really looking forward to that feast for the years so thank you for that so imagine question other things that you would like to add or move like patch the movie or the sound no the movie is done so you have to know I worked four years on this and it took me half a year to cut it and so I like watching it again and again and and also in the movie theaters while that was possible and I always enjoyed watching it and it's it's it's still a lot of fun watching it and the movie is done do you want to change something so for me this is kind of a time capsule it is like it is and it stays the way and so we we we put it into a capsule and shoot it into the sky so the next question you already kind of answered so what kind of update or or continuation might there be so so maybe that's a call for action for all the viewers if you are interested in doing this why don't you do it yourself simply do it then there's the question is the album available on cd so yeah download it and burn it so funnily enough so we we made dvds for this movie and many many people wanted to be able to give this movie as a gift to their parents and of course you need a dvd for that there are dvds but no cds so if you still have a cd burner like these outdated media then yeah sure go ahead and burn it well vinyl would be nice we tried that but we we didn't get the funds together to put that out and if we had succeeded in doing that the soundtrack would have been finished by then and all the things that have been created since the release the original release would not have been a part of that so i'm really happy about publishing that on sunday it's a new musical dimension that we were able to add and work with the wiki media commons license okay then we have so the media is free to download are there legal limits to public performance of the media a part of course of the pandemic related restrictions yes so we have the cc by s a license cc for creative commons bi for the attribution for me as the creator of the movie or a piece for the music and s a means and if you are going to create a derivative work if you're going to change something you have to publish your work under the same license so if somebody is doing some event for example uh so some people have created their own drive-in theaters and uh if somebody wants to show it and earn money with it then i asked for a share of that and uh if the public media uh were to ask for it of course i i wouldn't mind getting a share of that too so i read the questions do yes so so there's a big problem that the public media the public tv and radio stations do not pay for documentary works and my first movie that ran 15 times at city f and was five original broadcasts and 10 repeats and and for all of that all together i get 5000 euros for a movie for all together for all 15 performances and normally we only pay three they said when they buy stuff like that so it's many people stop making documentary movies because of that to exist here so it's it's really hard to live off that yeah so the simple things like paying your rent yeah i heard of that so that's unfortunately the situation for documentary makers so so i would love to see the reach that it would create but i would love for them to actually pay for it so there's many comments and so if you want to see more and read more there's lots of comments in the pad and people are very happy and at this point thank you very much to Sandra and teas or film gizmo and for all of you who were interested so so once we're finished here so friday night we watched a movie and after that we go to the dance floor so where do we go to the dance floor it's divock right dj spock has collected a lot of artists and he he has many very cool acts so so what's really cool we're not just here in the stream so we have the interesting 2d world and we're all going to go into the world to rave and listen to the dj's and teas teas are we going to see you sunday morning at five or is it is it just play and background the work so i will be in the background a little bit i have created a couple things i prepared a couple things so we'll see so if you really want me to i can i can appear yeah so i won't only push play but i will adjust some some parts thank you very much everybody thank you to the team in the background and that's it for tonight goodbye also from your translators she's a pirate and stb and somebody has to tell me