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It's more thermogenic. And studies show that people and animals with more brown fat as a percentage of their overall body fat tend to be leaner. So it's like the, I guess for lack of a better term, the fat burning fat. Now here's the cool thing, right? So you can convert the, you know, the white fat. That's what I thought was debunked. That's true. You can actually, oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. So there's like plasticity with your fat. So some of your white fat can convert to brown fat, which then becomes more thermogenically active and healthier and makes you, makes it easier to get leaner. So are you saying one of the ways to do that is by sleeping in a cooler bed can actually convert some of the white fat to brown fat? Yes. So there's a few, yeah, there's a few interesting things, right? So sleeping in a cool bed, first off, significantly reduces sleep apnea. So people with mild sleep, sleep apnea, just cooling the bed down or cooling the room down, that'll help. So it's good for your health there. Increases REM sleep and also sleeping in a cool bed or cool room creates more of this conversion of white fat to brown fat. So the theory would be that that would help you become leaner. More brown fats, better. Now, that's interesting, because I think that I would have thought that the benefits of that come from your body trying to regulate its temperature. Therefore, it's got to work harder to raise your temperature, right? So if I sleep in it, because I sleep at like 55 degrees with my chili. So I imagine that my body through the night is trying to keep me warm. And so it's having to work more than it normally would, in turn, i.e. burning more calories. Yes. So that's where I would think the benefit comes from. Well, that's the fat burning benefit. So you get all the sleep improvement benefits was my point, right? So a cool bed significantly improves sleep quality across the board. And we know, it's a matter of fact that sleeping better, you are leaner, you're healthier, you build more muscle, better hormone profiles or to put differently, getting suboptimal sleep causes you to store more body fat. You don't burn it. You don't build as much muscle hormone profiles, not as good. So there's that. So but if we remove that, just forget that for a second. What you're saying is is absolutely true. So there's a study that they did called the where they actually studied how brown fat is converted or how we end up developing more brown fat from sleeping in a cooler bed. It's not just eating chocolate ice cream. No, it's not eating chocolate ice cream. So they they did this with people and they found that the the that cold beds or cool beds stimulated this kind of brown fat build up or conversion, which is really interesting. So this is really cool. So they said I wonder if there's a connection then to people that have like live in like colder states that they have more brown fat than other people than live in like areas like Florida or California. That's a good question. Now, now, a good point around that is it's not going to offset like eating that, right? We're talking about like a small difference here, right? We're not talking about like crazy amount. Like a workout is going to burn a lot more. Yeah, like if you live in Miami, you're probably more self-conscious about looking good and all that stuff. That's a bit of motivation like showing your body without your clothes on. Yeah, so, you know, but but besides that, you sleep every night and you do it for your entire life and it's it's a significant portion of your life. I don't know what the number is, but it's a huge chunk of your life is spent sleeping. So if you could every single night for the next however long, sleep in a cool bed, could this be significant over long periods of time? I think so, just because of the amount of exposure and how often you go to sleep and how long you sleep. So it's a pretty big deal. Now, I personally noticed a couple effects from using the chili pad or the, you know, their devices, the Oolah. In fact, that's the one I use. So people don't know it's a it's a pad you put over your mattress and you put your sheets over it and it uses water to heat or cool the bed. There's no EMFs. So there's no it's not the the part of the device where it's you plug it and everything is not on the bed that you're sleeping on. So low EMF, it's water cool, water warmed. What I noticed when I made the made the bed cool is, yes, I slept better. I also noticed less inflammation. I woke up less stiff, more energy throughout the day. Now, as far as a fat loss effects, I, you know, because I control my diet and exercise so much, I didn't notice that. But these studies are really fascinating. This is another another benefit of doing this. And it's the most effective way of cooling your bed because some people can cool the room, but they I don't know about you guys, but I generate so much heat sometimes. It's like, I'll end up doing this thing where I sheets off, then I get cold sheets on, then I'm hot and she's. But with the chili pad, it's it if you set it, let's say at 60 degrees, it'll keep it 60. Yeah. So it's not like it's just cold. If you start to go, you know, the biggest benefit I noticed because, you know, I do sleep hot, but also I'll wake up. I'm more prone to getting up and then having to go to the bathroom or, you know, rolling over and I'll kind of wake up and look around. When I'm I'm hot when I'm sleeping versus like when it's cool and the temperatures that that nice cool, even distributed cool, like I it's the deepest sleep I can get. Well, from an evolutionary standpoint, it makes perfect sense, right? If we evolved without temperature controlled rooms, it probably got cold that night. So it makes sense that this is how I mean, everybody knows you sleep better when it's cold versus when it's hot. So it makes perfect sense. And then the way that the that your body wakes up, there's there's a couple of things we do that are super unnatural. One is when we wake up, it's a loud alarm clock right off the gates. And it's super loud. Then we get up and we switch the lights on. Boom. Like staring our phone. Yeah, that's not nature. Like you don't wake up with a super loud unless something scary happened. So, you know, what you could do with these these new devices is they could slowly warm you up to get your body to naturally wake up. And then I combine it with an alarm clock that slowly glows. I still haven't got that. You guys all have that. Yeah, it's so awesome. Do you have it too, Doug? I have it, but I haven't really used it. Oh, it's so awesome. Oh, you have it, you don't use it. It's kind of programmable. It's hard to read. At least the one I have is hard to read. Yeah, they're they're they're not that hard to to just read the things. Super easy to figure out. If Sal figured it out, I feel like. I know. Doug still needs me to come over and program his PCR. No, but it's like simulates the sun rising. And so you kind of wake up. No, you guys are talking about it. I think it was a year or two ago and I was like, oh, that sounds interesting. But I mean, I wake up pretty pretty naturally in the morning. The only time I have to is if I set like my alarm for like really early. Do you not send alarm? Just wake up. Yeah, I just like what time we get here right now? Like I'm up by that time because Max is up by that time. I need all the help, like all the aids, all the things to get me up. And so you guys know me and the whole cup zero and like everything involved with me getting up is, you know, this this whole process. So yeah, I have like that sun rising effect. I have the heating up effect. I have, you know, the first thing I do is just like, I have all my clothes already set at times when I have to like look for things because I just don't have it. They don't have it until I get in my car and start driving. You know what I hate to say? I hate to say this, but I I would bet money right now that all of us, except for maybe Doug, have some kind of sleep apnea. Damn it. That's that's that I first of all, I've shared rooms with probably but yeah, you guys snore like I can't even understand. But I'm a side sleeper, so it's somewhat, you know, like I'm sure it's a little bit better than on my back. But yes, you have me worried about that because you've said that to me. But Katrina tells me I don't snore, but then I get situations like that. I do know more relaxed when I'm in there with you. I know if I do snore, it's normally either like an allergy or I'm sick or like I'm exhausted, like, you know, we did something like that. I think you're talking about the trip where we went out and talked all day and they thought that tends to get me to snore like that. But I'm afraid to get tested because this is a stupid reason to be afraid to get tested because sleep apnea increases risk of like heart disease, heart attack, strokes, like it's terrible for you. But I'm afraid to get tested because I don't want to wear the I know this is so dumb. I sound like such a bro, the freaking nose thing that you with the tube. I do not want to turn in Darth Vader. Also, when we had Dr. Rusio on, like the reason why I knew about the didgeridoo is because of that fact. I just don't want to put on this mask. I would rather become like, you know, a hippie on the streets, like doing a didgeridoo in order to not wear a mask so I could sleep better. Yeah, apparently the skill of playing that strengthens the muscles in the tongue and the throat and helps prevent sleep apnea. Yeah, it helps sort of like set it so it doesn't your tongue. Are there other things besides the didgeridoo thing, whatever that thing is, like the being leans? Yeah, just yeah. Remember that study I read a long time ago when people gain body fat, their tongues gain fat, too. Is it just body fat or just like mass to muscle mass? Yeah, because as I say, I know when I was up to like two thirty to forty, I was snoring. And so I think that there's definitely a sweet spot for my weight where my body wants to be. Also, I'm the heavy breather now, apparently. You know, it's Doug's always on me. I don't even realize I'm doing it. Dude, that sucks. That's hilarious. Well, I mean, look, this is very interesting because, you know, those people who are into fitness and health focus heavily on exercise and nutrition, maybe hydration and sleep is it tends to be a little bit on the back burner, mainly because you get away with suboptimal sleep, especially if you're fit and healthy, especially if you're young and you drink a lot of caffeine, which a lot of people in fitness do. And but it's the truth is sleep quality has such a profile. It's as profound of an effect on your health. So all the magic happens, really. It is as a diet and exercise. And so if there's something you can do to increase the amount of thermogenic fat burning fat on your body, even if it's a couple percent, but you sleep every single night and you do for the next, you know, however many years you're alive, just doing this thing, I feel could have. Well, I think I think that's just like a nice little kicker. I mean, I think focusing on your sleep is so impactful in your life in itself. Like even if it didn't have any fat burning effects, I think the value in getting a good sleep routine and trying to figure out how to get the best sleep you possibly can. It pays you back tenfold in everything else you do. Yeah, my cousin saw one of my cousins just had a baby and he's he's now learning this the sleep value. I think that's when you really learn how important sleep is. A hundred percent. He just had a baby, right? So congratulations to my cousin, Alex, beautiful baby girl, very healthy. And he's, you know, I'm texting him back and forth. So I've had now my brother had a baby, you know, six months ago. My other cousins now he's got the baby. So we always babies in the family. But I texted him and I'm like, hey, how's it going, man? And he goes, he's all I've only slept seven hours in the last 72 hours. He goes, is that like what do you think about that? Welcome to the dad club. He's like, I feel he's like, I feel like I'm in a bubble or a cloud. He goes, I'm losing my mind. I'm like, it's only three days, dude. I said, you got to figure this out, bro. You have like a year of this terrible sleep ahead of you, you know? Yeah. So he's kind of freaking out a little bit. Hey, have you, did you listen to the recent all in podcast where they did like the predictions for this year? I thought that was I thought I want to do something like that. I feel like they did something pretty cool that I didn't listen to it. I listened to the last one, which was pretty good. I'm going to get one that industries that they cover or I mean, they do everything, they go, they go politics, stocks, like they, I mean, they had probably had like eight or 10 different categories that they, they went across, they did round. They will, I'll make a, this is not, but it'd be fun to do one like fitness more related. Well, I'll make one on fitness. And I'm just, I'm reading the, the chicken bones right now, the political chicken bones. So I'm going to throw them on the ground and you read the, you know, you know, when they, when they read the bones to tell you, like, do you? Yeah. Anyway, so the politicians will often project what they're going to be doing with their policies or testing out the public. And right now they're all the policies surrounding COVID. You notice that it's politically, it's political murder at the moment to talk hard about more mandates, more lockdowns, more whatever. So they're kind of making this, they're taking different turns and what they're talking about right now. So I predict that gyms are probably going to see some of the biggest turnouts that they've seen in a long time, even pre COVID. That's interesting, because that would be like a full 180 since that was totally demonized early on. Totally. Well, you see the CNN article that just came out. I mean, it's what the articles I've already seen about it with, you know, basically they're making it. COVID's attacking fat cells. Basically fat cells, yeah, like it is a big part of that. So losing weight has a massive benefit to it. People in the health and fitness space have been saying this since day one. And nobody want to listen. Kind of a no brainer, but it's like finally, like, you know, these publications are starting to put out the information. Yeah. So early data was showing like obesity was a huge risk factor for severe symptoms. Of course, nobody want to talk about that. Well, now we've got more studies showing that it's a big risk factor that COVID attacks fat. Now politicians are saying things like, why are we closing gyms when losing weights? One of the best things you could do to protect yourself against COVID. And CNN is now pointing, you know, printing these studies and talking about these studies that we maybe we need to lose weight in order to get through this. So now that it's becoming this it's becoming this narrative and it looks like it's going to become part of this narrative that they're going to push to get people to work out more because of the fear. I think people are going to flock to gyms like never before. I don't know. That's that's interesting. I wish I could see the numbers on how much it's rebounded since since COVID already. Like, I don't know. I've you guys been to a public gym for a while? I have not. And like, so based off of that theory, then, do you also see Peloton and Tonal rebounding? Do you see? OK, so you don't see that because of gyms. I feel like people are done being at home. Yeah, they want to be out and about. Oh, interesting. Yeah, that's just my sense. And again, I think it's a very optimistic outlook on on, you know, if gyms are going to be popular again, but I I hope that's the case. Yeah, so and I, you know, when this first happened, I thought that the gyms would suffer some kind of permanent blows. And I still think that there's going to be some changes that aren't going to go away. But that being said, all the lockdown stocks, Peloton, Zoom, like they're they're they're crushed right now. They were crushed. They were doing great when everybody was stuck at home. Yeah. Yeah. But now they're plummeting. Peloton is not doing so. And really, they're just coming back down to the real world because they were like 10, 15 X. Good point. Yeah, where they shouldn't have been, right? Like none of the numbers made sense, really, except for everybody predicting that they were going to be the future. So I feel like they're still not bad companies, technically, but they're just come back down to earth. Yeah, no, no, very good point. But now, again, we're hearing them say, like there was one congressman who said, why are we shutting? We should not be shutting gyms down right now when being overweight is a huge risk factor. They're coming out saying, hey, lose weight. It's one of the best ways you can protect yourself. There was a study that showed that COVID uses fat cells. Finally, I don't know. It's just like, so I think that and wait for this that combined with lockdown fatigue. People are over it. People are like, I need to get out and do something. And then you add that with the perfect storm of January. And I bet you this was one of the most indulgent holiday seasons we've ever had because we went into this holiday season already with the whole lockdown fatigue. People probably are like stressed, but I'm going to party, hang out. I don't even care. And now it's January like normal and they're like, I want to get in shape, plus all this fear. I bet you we're going to see huge numbers of people starting to work out. I wonder how many people took that statement from the White House that was like very fear driven seriously. Oh, God. Because that was just so inflammatory. I couldn't believe that that was like the last push of fear. I saw, you know, coming from the government for the unvaccinated expect a winter of death and destruction. It was almost exactly like that. Yeah, it was like something out of Game of Thrones or something. You know, it was terrible coming. So I wonder if also because we know what attacks fat cell, this would be, by the way, this wouldn't work very well. I don't think it works this way. But I wonder if like people are going to get liposuction because they're afraid. Oh, my God. I mean, so that's to me, that's a better prediction because the idea that I mean, people are always going to take the easier path because you're thinking that the people that are going to come in and flocking into the gyms now are the people that I don't think they'll stick, by the way. I don't think they're going to stick. I don't think we would be that crazy to say that. So but I mean, I do see that people going like, wait a second, if that is going to increase my rate, I could suck it out of me for 10 grand surgery. That'll help my immunity. I guarantee people are going to think about that. Did you guys know, too, though, that they actually have like these procedures for dogs now that people are investing in? Yeah, like tummy tucks and like, no, yes, I'm serious. I know they do. So my dog was a case for that, like plastic surgery for his nasal canal, like his cropping of ears and like docking of tails and all that kind of stuff. But it's gotten to a point where it's like all cosmetic now. No way. I'm serious, dude. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, I was like a few of these. There's the lip lift. What? I mean, I lift. Yeah. Oh, Doug, please give us some pictures here. This is these poor dogs, dude. It's like, I can't believe that they have all these like available. And again, I should believe that because, you know, they've also cloned like dogs in order to try and if your dog's deceased or has some kind of disease, like they can now clone. Yes. So it's like they have the same dog to replace the other dog. And so it's like people are very, you know, I get it on some level, but also it's ridiculous. Like there's rhinoplasty, facelift, eye replacement, testicular implants, tail. Well, I knew about testicular implants where they'll they'll snip the balls and then some people want fake balls put in their dog, which that to me is it like that's interesting. Why would you want to look at it? It looks like Sharpay's. Is that what that is? What is that? Well, that's a Sharpay or they or is that a Sharpay where they lifted the face? Yes. So you could see the the dog could actually see if it's like one of those functional things where it helps the dog. So that's because technically, you know, the cropping of Mazzie's tail is quote unquote cosmetic, but what made us do it was his tail corkscrewed over his butt. And so a lot of times when he had poop, he'd get stuck in there and they get bacteria and then he'd get these like like these cysts and like it was just constant headache. And you know, and he was probably in pain. So the way we looked at it is like, OK, let's cut his cut this tail down. So no longer a problem. Yeah. And we had that wasn't like an insurance thing they pay for. It's like we had to pay out of pocket. It's considered cosmetic. We did the same thing with his cherry eye. So I mean, if they're like that, like they're it's functional to help. But if you're talking about like lippin plants or this article is talking about, you know, the kind of Hollywood like Paris Hilton types, though, that are just like trying to make their dogs super pretty and Instagram worthy. Yeah, that's because they're dogs in accessory. That's why. Yeah, exactly. The ones that the same people that like push them in baby carts and in and like totally you think it's a baby. Oh, keep it. Oh, it's a dog. That's ridiculous. That's ridiculous. Although a dog on myostatin inhibitors would be kind of cool. We ever seen those pictures? Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah, the whip it. Oh, just imagine taking a muscular dog into it. Where are we with that science? We talked about that a while back and that was like something that we speculated is like one of them, you know, emerging sciences. Yeah, they were going to use that. Like, have you read anything recently? No, I don't think it's I don't I mean, there's nothing I don't think commercially available. But when that does become available, that's going to be very strange. I think it'll make it's going to make anabolic steroids look like flinstone vitamins. You know, I mean, serious. If you see the studies on them, it's insane what the amount of muscle at these things that myostatin can prevent from growing or make grow. It's like the super superhero serum. There was a video I saw once of this little kid that everybody was speculating had a gene that where the myostatin was kind of just naturally. And he was like, I want to say three or four. And he looked like a little mini like bodybuilder. It was weird. He was walking around like, er. And I was like, whoa, that looks weird. You imagine having a kid like that, dad, you know. Yeah. So you think that maybe like some kids could have like a genetic mutation that has that kind of quality? There he is. Is that the myostatin kid? Oh, no, that's not real. That can't be real. That's not real. It doesn't look real at all. No, no, that one's not real, Doug. No way. That can't be a real harm, dude. It looks like a mini or a target. No, that's real. Yeah, I've seen that picture of that kid. Why does he look like that? Hey, that's, he looks like. That's just great genetics right there, dude. And I think they've done, I think I've seen videos of him actually working out and doing stuff too. Really? Yeah, yeah, I've seen that kid before. Genetic, bro, pro bodybuilders. I bet you if they tested pro bodybuilders for these myostatin, you know, markers or whatever they'd find. So what I think is interesting is do you think that like, like for example, you having your son today versus you having your first boy. Do you think because you've built all this muscle mass over these years that you've changed and altered some of his potential genetics? Well, I had been working out. Didn't we read that about like epigenetics that you potentially can. So I always. Wherever currently you are. Yeah, like. I think more than, yes, I do, but I had worked out since I was 14. So all my kids. Yeah, I know, but you, the amount of muscle you have built your body today versus your body when you were. When I was 25? It's pretty similar. Oh really? Yeah, but here's the difference. My ex-wife was not into resistance. Yeah, I know Jessica is. My wife was. And I think that the bigger impact is the mom. Sure. While she's pregnant. Sure, yeah, I think that. So if she lit. So whatever the mom does when she's pregnant is sending a signal to the womb that says this is the environment you're going to be born into. So it's more likely that it's gonna turn on certain genes in the baby to say, hey, you're gonna be lifting heavy shit. That's what life is like when you're born. I 100% believe that. And so does Katrina. That's one of the things I thought was so cool is to watch her take her pregnancy on like her competitive like D1 type of attitude. Just building a life. Yeah, well that was like she literally approached. Before it's fuel. Yeah, she approached that. Both of our kids, bro, don't have our little calf genitalia. Yeah, I know. Relax out. You guys are still crossing. Aurelius has got like the longest calf bellies ever. Now when they did the ultrasound to see, they do, what's that one where they check for defects or whatever. And we don't want them to tell us the gender. So we kept it a surprise. So we told the guy, don't let us know the gender. But he fucked up because when he was doing it, he goes, wow, this baby's got some sturdy legs. And I told, I looked at Jesse, I'm like, he wouldn't say that about a little girl. Because that's inappropriate to say. I said, I bet he's a boy. And he was, he turned out to be a boy. I knew it. And he does, he's got these big old guys. Sturdy legs, ladies out there. That sounds like a very neutral statement I feel like. If you said to a parent about a boy. No, you're right. Yeah, you would say some of the like, oh, it looks like. Like, oh, your baby's stalky. You know, if it was a little girl, he'd be like, excuse me? Yeah. Don't be saying that about my daughter. Yeah, I'm stalky. Yeah. I want to go back to your predictions for this year because now you got me thinking like, OK, so if we, if you think that gyms are going to surge, like there's a big movement back into fitness, you've got to think that there's going to be some front runners or leaders. Like, who do you think, what business is? Wow. Like, like Planet Fitness, for example. Obviously, Planet Fitness survived a lot of this, which is surprising, but yeah, I don't know, like which gym's going to dominate. That's an interesting question. That's a really good question because so many gyms shut down. Yeah. And the ones that are left, there's a, now there's less gyms to service. Or remember when we had, we had Adam Sedlack on here talking about USC and what they were doubling down. So I bet you if you have a gym that's open and it's great, you have now less competition. Exactly. With a higher demand, you could very well. You're seeing this with restaurants too. It's the same kind of. That's a good point. Is that happening with restaurants right now? Bro, have you gone out? Have you survived or are they surging? Have you gone? Well, I don't know what the numbers are. Yeah, exactly. It's just all like. Have you gone out to dinner recently? Not really actually. I don't think I can try to remember the last time. Pat, there's a good restaurant I've been to. Yeah, or like impossible for me to get reservations. Yeah, really. That has nothing to do with that they're spacing out or regulating differently. Well, too, like since the pandemic, like they've been able to push their outside business and expand like their seating. So they actually, and I've talked to one of the restaurant owners who talked about their full outside and inside. They wouldn't before they were just full inside. That's true because I went to, I mean, we go out to dinner, maybe one day a week or two days a week and we were in Santana row, which all the restaurants there. There is no special seating. They're letting everybody sit like they normally did and packed, packed. Everything was packed like I'd never seen before. Interesting, I haven't heard anything from anybody positive about the restaurant industry. They were crippled the last I heard. So most got decimated. Yeah, but like the ones that survived and were able to kind of like reinvent themselves or do take out and all that like. What about the, okay. What about, what was the place that we went to do our Christmas party? Oh, Nova? Yes. Yeah. Remember what he said? That they were like shut down. They were crushed and they said when he opened, he's like I'm booked out for weeks. Because maybe the demand is higher because people are like I want to go out. So, okay. So UFC, you mentioned Planet Fitness. Like what's left? I mean, 24 Fitness, is that still a thing? They're dead. They're old. Yeah, but they still have. LA Fitness, I can't imagine. I mean, they'll do better than what they're doing right now, but I don't even consider them a front runner anymore. Like I'm more interested in Planet Fitness, what UFC is doing. Yeah, UFC crunch is kind of same difference, right? Same owner or whatever. So I'm kind of interested to see what they do, especially UFC, because UFC was what? They were only on like their year five or six. They're like, oh my God, it's been longer than that. No, it's been longer than that. Yeah, like 10 years when they have been out. God, it's been that long? Oh my God. How do you think where's their is doing these days? So actually, I would love to talk to Brendan about that. Now they were really hurt because they have- Big time. They were a group. Yeah, and in fact, I don't even know if they, the one here on Willow Glen, who drives by the most? I would think you would. Lincoln, do you go by Lincoln? I've seen it. They just started doing classes. And this one over here? The one in Santana Rocha. But they were limited. They were only doing like 12 people a class. So I don't know. I'll ask Brendan how it's doing. I mean, he's always bullish and positive about it because he's a big owner in it, right? But he'll give me an idea of how it's doing. Last I've heard restaurants and places like that are still getting hit. Now, obviously they're coming back a little bit because people are working their way back, but I wouldn't predict or say that they're crushing. So that's an interesting intro. But I do feel like there's a fitness wave that's coming because now it's January. I mean, I love the fear. I love that. People are over it. They want to get moving. Let's start exercising. We're gonna get healthy and protect their bodies in the natural way too. What's that say, Doug? Yes, another industry setback. Restaurants struggle with financial impact from the spread of Omicron. Yeah, I think they're hurting, guys. So yeah, I think they're still having challenges, but I agree with you, Sal. I've been out to restaurants and they are packed. Packed? That's what I've seen. I guess over average, that's probably the case, but I bet you there's a few... I mean, that's also our experience too. We had that situation, but it was like, we're out on New Year's Day, you know what I'm saying? Like, of course, it's going to be, that's packed all the time, you know what I'm saying? But I've noticed that like the mall, because I've been going out. Malls, like I said, restaurants, you're saying the same thing. Oh, so you're a super spreader guy, huh? Super spreader guy? Yeah. Super spreader. Dude, I made a joke that just like it did not, it swam like a rock. Yeah, you were the wrong audience or what? Oh, bro. So I went in, I went in with my cousin. I bet there's a lot of this happening right now, you know that, right? Especially over the holidays, family together, it's like you drop a joke like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Didn't feel the crowd first. Oh, too soon? Too soon? Oh, no. We went into the store and I'm like, oh, I forgot my mask and my cousin was like, ah, just whatever, you know, because here in California, they still mandate whatever. So I went in, we were going to get something real fast or whatever, and I walked in and one of the workers was like, hey, you need to have a mask. And I said, I can't, I have a medical condition that makes it hard to breathe with a mask on. He goes, what is it? And I said, COVID. And he looked at me. Oh. Come on, that's funny. Dude, he looked at me like, what? Like I'm just kidding, dude. And I went outside going to the bathroom. I thought it was going to be funny, dude. It didn't work. That's almost as bad as that exercise joke I did on the priest that went to him. I told him, we both exercise people and he's like, what? Well, why were on the topic? Why were on the topic of businesses and predicting and what we were surging like, I was actually doing an update on the streaming wars, right? We've been talking about that for over a year now. And man, I told you guys that I've been impressed with Disney. I mean, at one point, I think people on the show were like, are you guys sponsored by Disney? You talk about Disney all the time, but. And the guys on all end predict that. One of the guys predicted that that's the like pick of the year this year, that Disney is going to surge. And that their stock has been kind of whatever, like stock is whatever. But they got hit big time with the, excuse me, the theme parks being shut down. But Disney plus really helped carry that. Like if it wasn't for Disney plus, I'm sure they would have been crippled. And so the fact that the stock kind of held, held was because of this growth. And Disney plus saw a 60% increase just this last year in subscribers. Yeah, they're up to here. I'll give you the numbers. I was looking at it earlier and I was like. I wonder if all the Star Wars nerds came back because they got Boba. So that is why. So that's, or that's the theory. Cause they left for a bit. I mean, there was a lot of people that unsubscribed, you know, after some of the shenanigans, after the Mandalorian where I forget her name, Kira. Oh, where she got fired. She got fired for just ridiculous reasons. And so there was this backlash, but I think they recovered from that. Gina Carano. Gina Carano, thank you. So I, you know, I mean, I've been saying that like, I don't think that Netflix will be the winner of all this, right? Cause I just think that their content's not as good as some of these other streaming services. HBO Max, Disney, I think that they're. They have their own flavor. They have their own flavor. They have their own flavor. They have all the batch fast food rather than 99 set menu. That's why they'll be around. Right. Yeah. I think they're, they're kind of like that. But so listen, Disney plus, okay, is now up to 118.1 million subscribers. What's the average cost per month? 30 dollars. No, no, no, it's not. No. 13 dollars. Sorry. Holy cow. Something like that I think. That's all monthly. Between nine and 13. Yeah, I do the math for that. 1 million people paying over 10 bucks a month. 118 million. Now Netflix has got 214. Netflix is the leader still. Netflix is the leader, but only at 214. So they're not that far ahead. Do you remember when they were pushing hard for internet, what was the regulation they were trying to push? Oh. Net neutrality. Net neutrality, yes. Okay. And do you remember what they said? If we don't post this, the internet's gonna be good. We're gonna get less variety. Whatever. The internet is way better now. And we got way better streaming services now without that stupid net neutrality. Let's let the government control the internet. Yeah. So there you go. Either one of you guys follow all the talk around like web three and what that's supposed to look like and you guys don't pay attention. Well, isn't this all centered around the metaverse and the NFTs, all this stuff is like being incorporated in web 3.0 or whatever? Yeah, kind of. Although, I thought it was interesting to hear one of the guys takes on the all-in podcast saying the shitting all over the metaverse. Oh yeah. Yeah. And I think that's true. What he says is that he goes, what everyone's all hyped about. He's like, is not revolutionary. If you've been playing video games, if you've been playing Minecraft and... You're just trying to buy real estate in video games. And that's what he really made fun of. It's hilarious. We've already been doing this for a decade already and there's nothing really... Yeah, show me some tangible business reason for it. I haven't seen it yet. So this is the year, we wanna talk about predictions. This is a year I think we're gonna see some serious bubbles get burst. Okay, here's your first sign, you ready? I'm on with you. Here's a... Right here, this headlight alone will tell you that NFTs, not that they're going away, there's just gonna be a washout. Okay, ready? Here's the headline. This 12-year-old coder is set to earn over $400,000 after two months selling NFTs. Oh my God. There's your sign, everybody, right there. Like you got a kid who's gonna make almost half a million dollars in two months because of this hype and bubble around NFTs where a lot of people don't understand what's going on. I think there's gonna be a lot of people that are not gonna like this statement, but I think 80% of the NFT shit that you see out there is gonna burst, 20% will be around. I can't disagree with that. I'd say it's gonna be a big number. Only the cream will be left. I think it's not gonna leave, but it's definitely the big dogs are gonna stay. And that's what I think. I think people get offended when you say something like that or they get butt hurt because they're over there gambling and buying a bunch of NFTs, but I'm not saying it's gonna go away. The technology is amazing, and I think it is the future of how we do things, but I don't think everything is going to NFT. You know what I'm saying? I got an example that's kind of like that. Do you guys, okay, so we're all old enough to remember when the internet kind of first became a big thing. Do you guys remember when people would buy and then sell domain names? Yeah. Yeah, it's very similar. It's very similar. It's very similar to .com. When .com went crazy. Dude, I bought a stupid game. 80% of the... I still owed like 10. The right names are so dumb too. Star Wars merch. 80% of the .com companies took a shit, but there still was 20%. There was still a percentage of those that hung around and were... And you know what it is? It's saying it's basic business fundamentals. If you've got a good business model and it makes a ton of sense and it's gonna add value to people's lives, it will stick, it'll make it through it. And I think that's why I think the... And when we were talking, right? So off air, we were talking about NFTs and would mine pump get involved in it? What would it look like? And the thing that we all agreed on is like, it would need to be attached to something extremely valuable. So that was the only way that it needed to be scarce too. It was tangible. Yeah, it needed to be something that someone's like, oh wow, I right now the value of that would, I would pay double or something. I'd still get access to this. Right, and that access isn't predicated on the metaverse. It's like, you have access to some real-world, real-world kind of stuff. A lot of these people are selling stuff predicated on the metaverse in hopes that it goes in this direction and you're thinking, oh, I'm gonna get earned early and I'm gonna have this piece of real estate here. You have no idea what that looks like. You just wait till they do, NFT season tickets, you just wait. That's gonna be insane. When you own a season ticket. And that's a great example of one that I think already has a market. Stubhub is a massive business that came out of nowhere like 20 years ago or whatever it was. And I remember when no one knew what it was and then it became this legal way for you to re-skelp tickets basically. That's a massive market. And ticket master, same thing. But this is going to disrupt that and take a piece of that. Yeah, because the original people who issue the tickets now can get a percentage every time it gets resold. So now they're gonna love, okay, Stubhub, sell them all you want or whatever. I'm gonna get my 10% every time it's sold. So that's gonna be massive. Do you remember when we had the discussion about streaming services like four or five years ago and we were like theorizing what it's gonna look like? And is it gonna be more channels or less channels? This is a good example of what happens when you allow companies to compete. What we have now is so much variety in so many different streaming services that the challenge now is not... Do you wanna hear all the main ones? I actually wrote them all down. Right, okay, you have Disney, Netflix, HBO Max, Amazon Prime, Hulu, Paramount and YouTube TV are the ones that I tracked. There you go. And all of them have an infinite amount of content, which is insane. Yeah, so you have Disney at 118 million. You have Netflix, these are subscribers. You have Netflix at 214. HBO Max, that's my dark horse. I think that one's gonna come up and actually surpass. I do too, because they're releasing... Yes, yes, and they're into that, so. They have Harry Potter, you know Harry Potter coming out? You got Spider-Man and the... Oh yeah, I did see that. Harry Potter, another one. And it's gonna be released on HBO Max and theaters. And then Spider-Man, but they didn't do that at the same time. They did theaters first. They did Matrix on the... They did. By the way, Spider-Man 12th highest grossing film ever. Which is crazy considering that a lot of movie theaters have got either shut down or... Can I tell you guys something? I hadn't gone in the movies in years. I'm a huge movie theater. I love movies and movie theaters. And I went in and I sat down and we watched Spider-Man. Great movie, great movie. Yeah, we went to theaters watching too. But I tell you what, dude. As I sat there, I thought to myself, I wish this was on HBO Max. I think I would have enjoyed this at home. It's just the same. It is lost, it's a lure. I didn't see that at all. It is lost. No, really? Yeah. It lost, it's a lure. I mean, you're talking about two completely different people here. Like Sal is such a homebody and doesn't need to go out and do stuff. You and your wife can't even sit two days in the trucking house without having to get out. We always are trying to find excuse to get out of the house. So I guess, yeah. I'm like you, Sal. I'm like, give me my couch and my surround sound and let me put my feet up and control the pause if I go take a pee. Because I was sitting in there and I'm like, I mean, it's cool. But is this really, I wonder how much I spent on three tickets like 40 something bucks when you had popcorn? It's dying. It's dying. It's dead. It definitely took some black eyes, but there'll still be people around that want like the theater experience. I'm trying to think what it'll be like in a decade or two. It's more of a novelty at this point than it is like a popular destination that used to be. They're gonna have to make it entertaining in different ways. Like there's that one theater that you get food. The bottom line is the only reason why it's still alive at all is because there still are movies that get released first and only on in theater. If that was on streaming, it would completely die. It wouldn't have enough people like yourself. You still need places to take people on dates. That's right. There'd be one per fucking state then. There'd be like a movie theater in the middle of California. That's a better date, Justin. Yeah, I know, but like if you're a parent, you know, you don't want that. Oh, that's true. Yeah. Let's go get out of here. I guess for teenagers, it's definitely something that would probably be, I think as a teenage kid, I would like to go to the movie theater over sitting in my house and watching for that reasons. I mean, I don't think it would be gone. Like there'll be a theater around, but not. I think it's gonna go the way of drive-ins. I think they're gonna exist. That's a good thing. There you go. There's drive-ins, you know. They still exist, but. I kind of disagree with you guys. I think that, you know, there's definitely, again, kind of parallel to gyms, like it's fine. Like I think that there's a lot. And if you look at the box office numbers, that'd be interesting to see with Spider-Man. It broke records. I heard that people went to the theaters a lot more. No, it did. It broke the theater records. It wouldn't really stand anywhere else though, Justin. I know, but like the more movie studios are gonna have a hard point in testing that. It's true. It was very surprising. I was listening to the radio talking about it this morning and they were just talking about how the fact that it broke records at a time like this when you would think most people aren't going. Yeah, it kind of blew everybody's mind. But like, yeah, I don't know. I think that because we've been so confined, I feel like there's so much more appeal to go do things. Maybe. I'm so sick of being at home. So, Goy, I wanna finish my numbers here because I have another prediction still and it closes the loop on what we talked about a long time ago with my prediction of them being like a streaming service that kind of gobbles up multiple. And I'll tell you what I think. So Amazon Prime has got 200 million. Hulu 43 million, Paramount 47 million, YouTube TV only 4 million. So I think Amazon is primed to gobble up at least two or three of these suckers. That makes sense. Because of how powerful that company is. They're always the sleeper and like always. Right, and I just think they probably put the least amount of effort into like the content that they're creating. Oh, compared to the other big ones they suck. Yeah. They couple it with Amazon Prime, right? So you get access to all the videos if you have that. So they've got a lot of value in that. So their base is already the size of Netflix as it is and continuing to grow. And they've got the money and capital and power to potentially pick up one or two of these things. So I still don't think that theory is dead that you might see this. I will say this though. Have you guys noticed more and more of these streaming services pulling big box office actors to make their own content? I just heard too that like Leonardo DiCaprio and Scorsese came up with some TV series they're getting Keanu Reeves to be in. It's like all these big names and it's like a TV series. I don't know which platform they're releasing on but it is going on streaming. So it's like, but it's advantageous for a lot of these big Hollywood actors now to do streaming. Well, the money is there. It's just like what we're seeing the disruption in boxing. Exactly. I mean there's people that are, I mean you have these celebrity no names that have no boxing skills able to put together a pay-per-view or make more than a professional fighter. And so it's completely disrupting that space and you'll see the same thing I think in the acting space. You have companies like Netflix. What was Netflix last year? They're how many billions of dollars they were investing in content? I heard they have like they're building out studios and everything around us here too. So like most of Hollywood is like ghost town and now everything's moving either up here or like. I don't want a bunch of actors living up here. I know like there's another location I think. I forget where but yeah they've moved all their studios. Well, I mean was that movie Red Notice on Netflix? It was Brian Reynolds, The Rock and what's her name? Oh that broke records first. It broke records. It was a good movie too. It was actually a fun. For streaming. It was a fun movie to watch. It'd be interesting to see where these streaming services are putting up their studios. I mean why even put it in California at all? No, yeah they've moved out. Yeah a lot of them have. So expensive though. I would love to know what cities that would be. Albuquerque, New Mexico. Is that one? There's one. Yeah look them all up there. I mean that's a more real estate movie right there. So did you guys end up watching The New Matrix? Yeah I didn't yet. Oh you haven't? I really liked it. I ended up going through the previous three with the kids. I feel like I'm a minority in this. A lot of people don't like it but I thought it was good. I'm a huge Matrix fan. See and I'm not. I'm not like a massive Matrix lover. In fact I don't even remember two and three. They were unmemorable for me and I think I watched them both one time never cared to watch them. The first one I've seen several times. I liked them just mainly for the concept. But yeah the first one was obviously the best. And I felt like to me this was the closest to the first one as far as how much I liked it. You can't ever beat the first one because it was so new. Right it was so unique. Well that's really hard to do too on the fourth one to get it to be anything to resemble the first one. That's okay so that's why I liked it because I'm like how are they gonna be hard to do? How are they gonna be able to bring this together? And I thought that the concept was smart. The way that they put it together. I thought so too. Cool I'm gonna check it out. And then you guys liked Spider-Man that was great. Yep I haven't seen that. Toby McGuire the best Spider-Man. By the way I'm gonna make that say that right now. My kids and I got in this huge debate. Oh yeah oh who's the best? You don't like the new kid? I like the new kid. He's new he's great but Toby McGuire's the best one. I think that's a fact. How many of them have there been? In fact I think that's a fact. Is it like Batman? There's been like eight of them or something? How many have there been? There's been quite a few. Let's see with Toby I think there were two or three. Then there was that one kid. What's his name dude the dark haired kid. Where he fought the lizard. Guy I don't remember his name. Garfield? Yeah something Garfield. Yeah something Garfield and then the new kid. And I can't remember his name either. My daughter keeps telling me she doesn't think he's cute but I know it. Who's the one that's on our space saver? That's the one. Yeah there you go. What's his name? What's the latest guy I can't remember his name? Is it Tom? Is it Tom Holland? Tom Holland yeah is that him? That sounds right. Yeah that's the kid that's the new kid. Yeah that's on her iPad. Oh you got a spider man there. Is that funny to like kids still have posters and everything in their rooms? No it's just screen savers and stuff on there. That's actually probably a good example of what that is today right? So what a poster was for us as a kid is now screen savers for your phone or your computer. What did you guys have? Kathy Ireland turned into a screen saver. You had Kathy Ireland in your room? Yeah dude. Did you really? Yeah in that green outfit. Oh you know that. I think I had the same one actually. Yeah really? I think so yeah. When I moved out to my room I had a room that was like kind of detached from the house right by the door. So they couldn't hear you making noise at night? Yeah yeah so I had like all those posters hanging up all the cars and girls. A lot of girls washing cars. I had Arnold. Keep it simple. I had Arnold Lufrino. Oh god. And then I also had. That's what I wonder about you. You're all doing stuff in those rooms by ourselves. I've been here for a few years. Yeah you know. I get it. You don't let me finish. Oh my god. I don't want you to finish bro. We don't want you to finish. We don't want you to finish. We don't want to be there. Oh there it is. I remember that one. I studied that picture very closely. There was a store in the mall when I was a kid. I don't know if that store. Karma Electra. That's the one that I had come home to Lido. For sure she's home. What was that store? There was a store. You remember we're used to in at least where I grew up. Oh yeah we could buy posters. Yeah and you could just flip through. Was it goodies? What am I saying it wrong? Or is that the place that sold CDs? Not Spencer's. Yeah it's something like that though. Something like Spencer's. But it was a different place. I don't think it exists anymore. That was like I mean whenever we had any extra money. It was like 3.99 a poster or something like that. You go down there. I'm going to bring about my kids. What are you going to do? Throw in some of your old capyne girls. It is kind of weird. Why isn't that popular? You guys are the ones that have the kids that are old enough. Your kids have no posters on their walls? None. That's kind of weird. Decorate with like plants and stuff. Really? Yeah no it's like yeah. It's not like that. It's not a thing. Yeah it's weird. I know it's weird. Yeah why wouldn't they? I don't know. That's a good question. I have no idea. That's interesting. Yeah it is. Yeah I don't know. I did want to bring up some more business use Adam for you. I know you like this business. You do too Justin. Sorry. I didn't. Not include you. So the company that we work with Public Goods. Forbes did an article on them. Which is kind of interesting. You guys know that their revenue has grown. Ready for this? 200% this year. Wow. From 2020 to 2021. Wow. Now here's the other cool thing. High demand. Because you know they're like super. So Public Goods for people that know they sell like home goods. They sell dog food. They sell all your soaps. Your shampoos. Super eco. Candles. Yeah eco friendly. No disturbing chemicals to your body. Great packaging. Low you know. No waste. No carbon footprint. Cut out the middle man. So you save money. Very inexpensive. Like I think this is a very disrupting business model. But they've also in that period of time. So they grew 200%. In that same period of time they've planted over 300 trees. Nice. So they've also done that. So I feel like this new model is a very. It's a very interesting one to watch. It's like we are climate conscious. We're also conscious of the chemicals that you put on your body. But we're also a business that saves you money and is profitable. It's not like you know. Just because we're planting trees now we have a shitty business model which is what you see a lot of these companies right. It's interesting the company like we were talking to what's our young buck that was in here the other day that we hadn't seen for Enzo was in here talking to us about. Just call him a young buck. Yeah. Yeah. Well I was I'm thinking about that generation like that's a you know that's like a thing that was I'm not familiar with as a kid like if I was a young man like getting ready to get a job somewhere like when I was interviewing or looking into a company to work for it wasn't like I was asking 24 fitness like well what are you doing to give back that's actually like Gen Z and millennial kids. I know right. That's a very common thing I was talking to my niece and she's she's the one that worked at Google Facebook and is now at Stripe and like one of her deciding factors forget the fact that I think it's a brilliant move like because she had stopped altruistic is yeah they wanted to hear from the CEO like what are you doing to impact the world like in a positive way like a lot of these kids that's that's a deciding factor for them to actually now I didn't want to burst her bubble and think that like you know what how much of this though is just what these companies are presenting to everybody because they know that's what you're supposed to do and they're getting ranked by that score now too so it's like because they're getting because they're getting ranked that way how many CEOs just know that that's like a move that okay we got to make sure that we we build we make sure there's a lot of that but at least the thought of going in that direction I think it's positive you know right I think it's I think it's a net because they're doing something I do too yeah you got some well yeah so you said 300 trees 300,000 okay yeah that I was going to say 300 trees that was like that's not a big deal 300,000 wow I'm glad you caught that yeah 300,000 I planted 300 trees no actually their goal for this month is 100,000 trees so sorry 300,000 trees where are they planting do we know I'm just kidding I mean like no I get split like you Adam because number one I like the fact that market pressures are pushing companies to be more conscious about you know things that I think that are people consider important so I like that yeah but then here's the other side of me the other side of me is if the company is creating a product or service that you like so much that you're willing to trade your dollars for they've already done the service that's how I feel yep so it's okay to choose I have no problem with you choosing the company that you want to buy your products from based off of what you believe in I think that's very smart you're voting with your dollars you have way more impact with your dollars than you do with your votes during elections that's a fact or your voice on Instagram or you're right so I think that's amazing however I don't like this like companies owe us they owe us to do all these things because the reality is they've done already the good thing which is they've given you something that you are willing to buy otherwise you don't buy it right so I get split you know I get split on this like an added bonus if they're also conscious of well that or even shaming somebody who's not currently doing that right like if you're not doing something like that like shaming that company for like this first you have to build the damn thing and be successful before we can go out and do all this philanthropy work right so let us let us first build this and prove the model that we have we have room in this marketplace and then make some money so then we can go out and go do some great yeah it's like getting mad as a float and like it's like getting upset with a a billion a company that produces billions of dollars in revenue and saying oh they're you know whatever when they did they were so good at what they did that enough people gave them their money willingly to make them a billion dollars right they did that means they did something that a lot of people wanted that's pretty good I think we should be like thanks well I appreciate that if you don't like it don't buy from them it's just interesting I mean that it's definitely different right when you listen to like listening to Enzo or my niece like talk about like businesses and stuff like but if it's if it's like that I love it okay you believe in that then go in that direction I think that's great you know but you know it's funny when if you ever get to a point where money's tight you then you start to change that a little bit because like you know how many people I knew who became parents were 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forward slash mine pump and then the code mind pump 10 mine pump one zero will give you 10% off your first purchase or your order so go check them out here comes the rest of the show first question is from B Cape 25 is it possible to build the calves or is it genetic oh good I'm gonna go ahead and throw this to you guys you know what they've actually done studies on this hard workers first off genetics have a huge influence on all muscles of your body in terms of how effectively or how well they build or respond to exercise it's not more or less for calves right that's it that's the question is it is there are calves special in the sense that they're more resistant to building or growing and no they've actually done studies on calves and found that that's not the case here's what's probably the case what's probably the case is it's most likely that the calves are the most skipped body part that people have in their training and that's just the fact like most dudes that work out consistently if they were to if somebody tracked how many times they skipped a body part I would I bet you calves are number one legs are probably number two and core is probably number three I would guess and so when you do all those years of training you know if you train your calves like you did your chest or your shoulders you probably would see I think I could make a case that they are unique and and in the sense that I think of all the muscles that are challenging for someone to build they're the ones it's most commonly that people do not take through full range of motion that's another good that's a good point and somebody like been choppy reps right right and Ben could Pekolsky likes to talk about how you know most muscles that are underdeveloped on somebody they have a poor connection to that muscle at the end range of motion so the the full full flexion right of like your calves which is standing all the way up on your tippy toes and ask yourself unless you're playing basketball jumping rope or doing sports how often do you get all the way up up on your toes like that and I just think heels on the weekends and I think that if you for most your life you don't do that and then you go in the gym and you go to train that that you just don't have that full range of motion and just like what we say about squats like you get so much more bang for your buck taking the body through its full range of motion so I would make the case that most people have a limited range of motion on their calves people don't they don't get the stretch they don't get the squeeze part of that reason is because I think if you start training your calves the potential to be able to be able to use a lot of weight is really high oh I could put so much weight on any calf machine but then they start to cut the rep short and when I see people working out calves in the gyms I almost never see full stretch full squeeze it usually looks like this kind of short kind of pumping motion now of course genetics play a role but again they play a role in all your muscles I don't think there's a special actually again studies actually confirm this there is no special you know reason or case for calves being somehow more stubborn than other body parts you know speaking you know generally now what kind of genetics influence your calf growth well there's you know muscle fiber type and density there's also muscle belly length this is a big one what you'll notice is a lot of athletes have shorter calves and partially because shorter calves probably helps with locomotion and agility longer calves you'll see in sports that involve more sturdy bases so you'll find these strongman athletes and weightlifters and stuff like that long calf bellies you have bigger area to grow so you know if you have short calves you can build them all you want you end up ending up with this short kind of naughty looking calf muscle well I also think like a lot of the explosive movement you know plays a factor in that with some of these athletic endeavors where you are on the four foot a bit and you're moving very explosively just like in sprinting you see the difference between you know those you know that muscle physique versus you know more of an endurance athlete but yeah I think about that because it is definitely a genetic factor but also too what you're doing in volume like so if I'm when I was training all the time in athletics I was always trying to make sure that I was on the balls of my feet and was you know able to move laterally and you know forward and back you know with you know explosive force yeah yeah again if you look at people's routines you'll see like 15 sets for back for the week and you know 12 sets for biceps for the week and you look at calves it's like 3 or 6 or it's the one that they skipped and they don't treat it like they're actually trying to build just the calf I'm totally guilty of this 100% and there was a period of time where I actually placed a very like this was a realization that I had or at least I was being honest with myself and I said you know what I'm gonna be super consistent I'm gonna ramp up the volume I'm gonna focus on the stretch focus on the squeeze I'm gonna do lower reps and higher reps and different angles and it was like a good year and a half of really consistent calf training and I gained like an inch and a half on my calves and I thought oh my calves don't respond I mean the truth is I just don't focus on them as well you know the the best hack I ever had for that there was and I think it was about a year and a half almost two years it was during when I was competing I decided because that was the area of insecurity for me is my calves so I decided I was going to workout in shorts year round even in the winter time so I had to face that insecurity and my one and it also would motivate me to do calves first in my workout so it's like okay if I can get in the door and get to that calf machine right away I get them pumped up so they don't look so bad but the and it made a huge difference in my calf size because and it really had nothing to do with the the hack that I found that it was that I was training calves first yeah and every almost every workout they were getting attention and just I'd never paid that much attention to them before and so I saw the greatest gains in that in that time period and realized like okay I don't have just terrible calves just I haven't put the the effort into training them and then doing things like really taking them through full range of motion and slowing the repetition down also I never back then but or before then I always trained like high reps similar to like what people do with abs I was not training I wasn't strength training my calves I wasn't doing putting the substantial load yeah I actually started doing five by five loaded like you know seated and standing calf raises and the combination of full range of motion doing the heavy load and then prioritizing them in the front of my workout in a year's time I made some pretty good gains on my calves better than I was making in any other muscle groups so I think that's probably a lot of it for most people is they just don't give it the same you know machine two things gave me gave me the biggest gains one was a donkey calf machine love that because of the stretch you get at the bottom it's gnarly and the squeezes pretty gnarly there as well and then the other one was blood flow restriction wow did that make a difference with my calves and I think it's just because blood flow restricted training works better on the limbs anyway and man if you you use that knee wrap below the knee right above the calf and then to do no weight and just rep out the pump and the burn you get in your calves is just so intense and I saw a difference doing that yeah next question is from Chris weester should creatine be taking pre or post workout good old creatine the best organic supplement you could probably take besides you know making sure you get the nutrients that you need in protein there's a little research around this as far as yeah being right but it's like splitting hair yeah it's a small difference but post workout post workout you they do show that your body is prime to uptake and utilize more of this creatine to turn into ATP that being said your good point it really doesn't make a huge difference we're splitting hairs in terms of you know if it's in the morning or before workout or after work you know what makes it more of a difference is what you take with your creatine so we've we've known this for a while that if you take creatine with a lot of insulin stimulating sugar well so you will see increases in creatine so back in the day when creatine really became a big thing it was really the first supplement that actually did something so when it came out in the 90s it took over and I would say single-handedly transformed the supplement industry into what is now it was creatine came out and it worked and it was crazy and everybody's like oh my god and when they saw that sugar increased the uptake you had these products with like cell tech with like 72 grams of dextrose and it does increase creatine uptake but who wants to drink 70 grams of sugar it would make me nauseous and it's probably not great if you don't want to gain lots of body fat and a lot of stuff but it does help but here's some better ones right you could do alphalopoic acid will increase creatine's uptake with a little bit of carbohydrates so if you have a post-workout meal with carbohydrates like let's say you have some white rice or something like that you could do alphalopoic acid and then here's another one for people who are afraid of extra calories or don't want extra calories at the creatine sodium sodium will increase the uptake oh really I have yet to mix it with my element tea that's how I do it oh that's exactly how I do it I didn't know that yeah so it increases the uptake of creatine but here's how creatine works right you take it and you build up your stores of ATP over time you can make that happen a little faster by doing doing what's called loading where you take like 20 grams of creatine for 5 days then go on 5 grams it does speed that process up I think it's a waste of creatine but if you want to make it happen a couple days faster that's fine but once you top out those ATP stores then what you're doing is you're just supplementing to make sure that they stay topped out there's a point at which you can't necessarily get anymore so it doesn't make a huge you know difference that being said I still take it you know post-workout and I'll take it with element tea which has got the sodium maybe I'll throw some alpha-lip oak acid in there and then eat my post-workout was there any truth remember when they used to say that you don't want to take it with orange juice because the citric acid did something oh well you know it can make it unstable if you mix it in something leave it there for a while yeah if you mix it in orange they'd say don't like I remember I remember my cell tech I remember reading that or saying like you know don't mix it with I believe some of it converts to a form that isn't very usable actually be good for you but I just take it just take it in the mouth wash it down I don't just do a water I mean I normally splash it the non-flavored stuff that we have and just shoot it real quick but now that I know about the sodium I mean I'm drinking element tea anyways I may as well do that I didn't realize that it says it prevents it from being absorbed effectively the other one's caffeine they say that caffeine can reduce its absorption but again that's interesting because you have companies like bang who have paired their bang energy drink with creatine oh that's funny but honestly it's like once you're once you've got those levels topped out it really doesn't make a huge difference you know and it's one of those supplements that we now are finding and I've said I'm gonna say this again I've said it so many times it is a soon to be health and wellness supplement promoted and advertised everybody because we're seeing benefits for cognition heart health it's got antioxidant properties it's good for other tissues other than just muscle I bet you're going to see kids start to take it they're already putting it in those like meal replacements for the elderly so you know like the little drinks that they'll give like insure and stuff for the elderly they're already throwing creatine in that because it's helping with muscle loss and it's helping with balance and strength so it's one of those supplements that is going to be it's just going to grow in terms of its usage yeah for me I noticed to like it so I it actually like upsets my stomach a bit when I when I take it without any kind of food to go with it so that was something I had to kind of work through but I know a lot there's some feedback with that that it it you know upsets certain people's stomachs some people don't can't take creatine because it upsets their stomach and some people are what are called I guess non-responders I thought you were going to say pussies and I was like hey now yeah but I mean for most people you're going to see benefit and you can take a smaller dose you could do you know two grams or whatever a day yeah but yeah I try to give it to my parents I try to give it to grandparents and family members to help with all that you know yeah the cognitive effects and all that it's it's yeah it works it's a healthy supplement the only people that probably shouldn't take it are people who have actual like organ issues like kidney issues and stuff like that in which case you'd want to consult with your doctor next question is from David a call training what tips do you have for introverted personal trainers you know it's funny about this is there's a myth that being introverted means you're not going to be successful as a coach or a trainer I believe this when I first started as well because I'm I wouldn't consider myself an extrovert depends on the environment I could be both but if I'm in a gym I'm an extrovert that's my place I'm comfortable talk to anybody it's not a big deal so I thought that that was necessary for success as a personal trainer and then through the years I've had enough trainers who were extremely successful with their clients extremely successful with their revenue with how much they produced that were not that I would consider to be introverted and they did very well and then I said to myself okay there's you don't have to be an extrovert to be a successful coach well especially today with you know content creation like the ability to I mean to post or write like if you can if you can write well or have a creative side to as far as content creation on you know Twitter and Facebook and Instagram and blogging and writing white papers like there's a lot of potential for you to have some success in that especially if you can put some words together pretty well. Justin you're of the three of us you're the most I would say introverted in that sense Adam and I are more similar but you were also very very successful did you have any specific strategies? I mean I kind of weave back and forth but yeah when I'm in business mode like I'm very much introverted like I want to make sure everything I have to present is perfect and I'm very analytical of what you know I want to portray myself as and so I had a hard time just like throwing myself out there and talking to random people I've never talked to before so it took a lot of work for me to get through that because at the end of the day this is a very interpersonal job is you have to like people you have to like talking to people so that's something that's like way outside yourself you know maybe it's not a good fit but like maybe something like you know if you're really into fitness like writing or you know providing some kind of content where you can do that from your house makes sense but if you want to work through that there's ways to do that so and you guys have actually experienced some of that when we did our we started our improv training stuff like that where it just kind of it forces you to not live so much in your head you have to come out with it you have to immerse yourself and sort of release the fact that maybe I'm not going to say the right thing every single time or maybe you know I got to take it in small steps so for me it was more about taking in small steps of first thing is to just hang out where the conversations are easier to to come across so if I'm in the front desk and somebody's coming in I learn their name I just say hi like I just take it in small strides I just say hi they come back I remember their name I say you know we'll see you next time Joe whoever right and then you start to kind of like build rapport I always think that you put too much pressure as an introvert on trying to get all these things nailed down like right away it's just it's just about you know putting yourself out there getting to know people like how long have you been here very simple conversations you don't need to go for the close right away you need to get you need to get outside yourself first and get to know people and then you know it just starts to line up towards deeper conversations that leads you towards you know maybe even turn them into a client I also don't think you should stress this too much either I think you should double and triple down on your strengths and you know maybe spend 20% of your time doing these classes that are going to work on your speech or 20% of the time putting yourself in these uncomfortable situations to try and get you better at that but I think if you're if you're naturally an introverted person stressing about oh my god I'm introverted and I need to be extroverted if I'm going to be this good trainer is yeah it's not only a waste of time but it's going to become you know stressful as fuck because it's not who you are except who you are and double and triple down on your strengths and a good example talking about Justin to the two of us you know there was a time when you went off on your own doing your own thing I was running my own thing uh Justin had a website 10 times better than mine and you built all that you had the ability to sit down and ride and create all that content and you're much better at that than I am maybe I'm better at walking up to random strangers on the street and hustling them into my classes yeah but at the end of the day you probably drove more leads to your business with your strength on your website than I was able to on my website so if you're an introverted person instead of focusing on that you're not good at that focus on what you're good at and be great at it you know get good find those areas that do make you a good trainer you know and and double and triple down on that and then spend a little bit of time trying to develop the skills that maybe that like we're talking about yeah and I think also there's a misunderstanding that that training people is an extroverted process or activity it's not when you're training a client one-on-one it's you and your client and many introverts flourish in that environment they're really good at developing deep connections making their clients feel very comfortable and at home and secure with them which is a very important thing to do as a trainer the only part I could see well here's what I think the challenge can come from is what about getting clients that's where the fear that is the big challenge that's the fear there's many ways to create opportunities to where the like you said Justin working the front desk like the conversation comes to you or setting up a booth a free body fat test right that sets up so the conversation well even again I go back to what I say like I mean yes it is that the stressful part for this person is the lead generation well lead generate other ways write a blog totally you know create a great website that draws people out he's beautiful yes I love that you brought that up because I did that's all I thought about was like how can I hack this you know it to be more beneficial towards me and you know yeah I looked at a lot of the sort of presentation binders at the front of the gym and I'm like and I made sure because I could sit there on my computer and do all these things and like write like copy and like you know really build myself up in terms of writing you know I got a lot of business that way too and so you just kind of look for other opportunities where people come across it maybe pick up the phone call you and just you know figure out ways now online obviously social media and all these other things play a factor absolutely next question is from Becca Clementson in 20 years where do you see yourself and mine pump 20 20 is a long time I mean I'll be we'll be impossible to find hopefully 62 I'll have my hair will look like Adams that's what I yeah 20 years is a really long time to try and I is yeah I I predict let's see 20 years from now you're gonna see I think we're gonna see catch me in the metaverse you know what that's true that is so true fighting it that's so true from the inside yeah I tried those oculus goggles that you have and that really was weird because I literally warm for five minutes that's today's tech so 20 years from now who knows yeah and I had them on and I was playing that game a little bit and I could see how you could get totally enthralled with it and then when I took them off that was only after five minutes the real world felt very strange to me because I had already adjusted to that that world yeah so I could see how metaverse world is gonna make people not want to be in the real world is fitness gonna be all like that I mean I could see that I mean I I still stand by my prediction of that we're gonna have a very clear split in our society I think there's gonna be and it's gonna be pretty even I think it's gonna be now where do you think we'll be so we're mind pump 20 years from now we're gonna be on the so honest where do you think like we're always trying to reach people where we see there's potential issues so I think we'll live in both yeah so I think we'll try to we'll try to sort of evangelize within the metaverse of like how to be able to move or maybe we'll create products or things in there that to help aid in the physical yeah I find that we'll I think that will we'll take advantage of the this new growing space that will create something some content in there potentially but I don't see us being like everything's going in there we're gonna be like that I just don't see that and I don't see most fitness people yeah being like that I think most fitness people are into actually moving in real life and going out there and interacting with other people and and doing physical things versus this like you know metaverse yeah I'm gonna go out in a limb and say that we're probably gonna see more medical breakthroughs in the next 20 years that we saw than we saw in the last 200 years we're on the cusp I mean like this new genetic these genetic technologies is RNA technologies the way that we're using psychedelics and studies for helping people with their mental issues yeah modifying bacteria to be able to do things for us I think in the next 20 years we may actually find ways of solving obesity through western medicine now that's not gonna solve all the problems but the obesity issue may very well be solved with something that western medicine comes up with oh that's really going on well it is but I see what the sciences looks like well 20 years from now you gotta see how far we've come just in a few years it's it's accelerating right the whole was it Dunbar's equation or I forget what it is but like Moore's law thank you yeah Dunbar it's a different equation don't ask me to describe it I just remembered the name but yeah I just think that everything is accelerating to a point where like every science fiction novel I've read every movie and TV series like it's so crazy to me that we're so close on a lot of these different ideas that were thrown out already to see 20 years from now that's a long time to see what society's gonna look like yeah it's now we're starting to get into like what we think the world is gonna be like versus where do we see ourselves in mind pump like well how do we navigate it well I feel like we're gonna be 60 so by that time I believe that we will have built and set ourselves up financially that technically nobody has to work at all or will ever have to work again and we will do be doing only the things that we absolutely love to do and we love to podcast I think we all have a passion for that 20 years from now I don't know if we still will but let's yeah I mean but I do think that we will have distilled what we all have worked I don't think anybody in this room okay including dog I don't think ever sees himself fully retiring so I don't see myself retired just because we have financial complete financial freedom what I see us doing is distilling down the things we do and business on this the things we absolutely love to do and I think that's what work would will look like it'll be less about managing people and scaling and it'll be more about I just love doing this and we'll be doing those things and right now those things look like podcasting because we enjoy that part but I don't know 20 years if it'll exactly be that I think Max is going to be sitting in your seat that would be my dream I mean you're right it's 20 years from now my dream would be like one of my kids right takes over and but I mean that's unlikely that you know that would happen almost never works that way but that would be pretty cool you know to have you know the younger generation and kind of teach them I think it'd be cool too if we just I mean just personally if we had more cool events or like we have just like a place where you know people that listen that have common values and ideas like they could just we could all hang out have an experience you know somewhere cool like a ranch or something oh I totally believe we're moving in that direction much sooner than 20 years I mean I think this idea that we have with the kind of the MP homes right and moving them into this like kind of destinations experiences and you're talking so I think that's in the near future and wouldn't be that far-fetched to think that one of the investments we do would be this massive property or cool place that everybody could come and meet once a year or whatever like it's so hard to think 20 years in the future though because like I said when I look at the the science around longevity it's weird and fascinating the science around fat storage fat loss how the body how we can influence the metabolism and inflammation it's gonna be really weird and we're gonna be at a crossroads if we do in fact get to the point which I think we probably will in 20 years where we literally have exercising a pill for lack of a better term people are gonna take it or do whatever and they're gonna look the way they want to look but they're not gonna get all of the other profound benefits of going on the journey of fitness and it's gonna be a very strange situation where wow I look good I'm not obese that's good but you know I still kind of feel lost I don't feel as great like what's going on maybe they won't notice because they never were in the first place a lot of the benefits you get from a lot most of the benefits you get is the journey the learning journey and how you develop the relationship with yourself with your own ego and with exercise nutrition once you take a pill that does all that for you you've lost that all you've gained are the physical results which there's benefit to that but I think it's gonna be put people in a very interesting position similar to how we imagine how much this is gonna change if we lived at 120 or 130 you know or our kids generally that's gonna just shake up so many things it's similar to what we see with celebrities when they get all this money and fame and power and then we hear about them committing suicide like how could this they had everything I thought that was the end result they yeah because you're in this position and you're like why am I not happy because it's not about that all the time it's usually about other things so it's gonna be interesting I think we're gonna get to a position not just with fitness but with everything where we're gonna have everything that we want and then we're gonna be like why isn't this enough like why don't I not feel fulfilled we'll be preparing people fitness wise for outer space outer space that's a good one making sure they go to Mars look if you like mind pump and you like our information you'll love the free stuff that we've written for people to help them with their fitness goals go to mind pump free.com check out our guides we have guides that can help you with almost any fitness goal you can also find us on Instagram some of us easily some of us not so easily because of shadow bands Justin is at mind pump 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