 Welcome to Trophy TV's the 1878 FM podcast. It's three of us today. We are the bushwhacker is missing in action We're bushless. We're bushless today There's a lot to be said for being bushless, but we are bushless today But we have got mr. Vitty as always top man Dave. I'm here. You're there. You've not gone full diva No, I've not let you down. You see when I say I'm gonna be here I will actually be here and I heard a room and I don't want it. I don't want to start rumors Yeah, I heard somebody say that they saw Randy Bush At the auditions I'm a celebrity. Well Do you audition for I'm a celebrity? I mean, what would that audition consist of? Horrible mess. Can you eat this? Can you drink blend the cockroaches? Are you bushless? Are you bushless? Hey, we're told I've told you about the best gig Associated with that show and and forgive me if I have I may have done it before The best gig is to be the reserve on that show every year They have a reserve celebrity and for the reason being that if somebody suddenly takes ill in the jungle, right? Or I don't know they break their leg or something which which facilitates them being taken straight out of there Right and not taking part anymore. They need to get somebody in and fast, right? And they can't piss around with visas and all that kind of stuff So somebody you know that posh hotel, you know the Versace hotel where they end up back at the end Somebody basically is paid by the production company to go out there for the entire duration of the thing which is what three weeks something like that two or three weeks and Assuming that nothing untoward happens They have a free holiday sat on their ass around the pool of the Versace and they get paid for it That's the minute but what do you have to do you want? But you have to do anything to know that just like warm up like a sub now do a few stretches Maybe reach her a few scorpions Anything like that. Yeah, you've just got to be mentally focused just in case you have to go in there But I tell you what that is a chance that I am willing to take. Yeah. Yeah, just walking around the hotel with like Vity with like It's just there just like that every now and again and a stupid hat Even at breakfast, you know, you know what I'm here for you sitting there waiting for the phone call Dave Paul Chucho these other dodgy Scorpion for something get you get your parachutes on I can't get away in this didn't they can eat with them Get ready Dave. You're going. I I met Paul Chucho as you had a drink with Paul Chucho recently a Clang The the Papa John's trophy final because he's a big rather a fan. It doesn't That's it I mean it just just while we're on the Chucho brothers and drinks There is that famous picture of the the two Chucho brothers and the girl and she's got a drink And it looks like there is something in a drink. You must have seen this buzz Dave are you aware of this picture? I mean when you say something in her drink like what? No, we're not like re-hitting or something No, no much. No very much the way your arm is it looks like there's a giant penis in the drink Okay, and it's a very famous picture. I might have a probably it's probably just Didn't it didn't cause that much of a you know impression on me You know listen while while we're on the subject of the Chucho brothers and you know I'll do another Clang story if you want you to know my claim to fame with them is a fact that me and Chappers Mark Chapman. Yeah match of the day to clank we can pick clank We competed it is not clang if he's amazing. No, we competed in a celebrity couples Edition of the weakest link back in 2006. I think it was and we ended up We ended up knocking out the Daily Mirror's 3 a.m. Girls to set up a nail biting final against the Chucho brothers, right? Which we then won. Yes, the final was me and chappers against Paul and Barry God bless his soul. Yeah, and we were the final and we got past See what I love about that is right. That's a that's a true story of proper You know proper celebrities none of this none of these tiktokers and YouTubers and all that malach, you know, the 3 a.m. Girls David David big in there Don't you don't have I mean, I don't know whether you do have it anymore because don't read newspapers You know, you don't have those stories of he was falling out of you know, Browns in London It's like no, I know it's just you know, when did why did we need that news? They just have to stay around till 3 a.m. To see you. You fell out of a book See, I thought the 3 a.m. Related to what time they had to set their alarm to do their makeup Could be listening could be listening. You never know Maybe you should put them on the thumbnail I don't know who they are See you say 3 a.m. Girls and I immediately think of any combination of the sugar babes. I don't know why I don't know Why I have well because they had a great They had a great squad system didn't they? Yeah Might want to talk about football We'll go back to our random section in the middle, but let's get on to 40 Football has become our random section. Maybe maybe you know what maybe it's good that it's better on a week like this Ever and obviously we're beating for the first time since August the 13th on Sunday night in we all Describe the last week as a nonsense kickoff time the atmosphere kind of Played into that at times. I thought on Sunday night very flat. Yeah, the day was the Sunday Seven o'clock it's too long to allow people to drink It had that like no European vibe when when you've ever been to European away game It's it's people are drinking all day by the time they get into the game They're all asleep Yeah, and it felt a little bit like that at the game started off lively enough I thought the crowd were live, you know, she ever Everton scored the goal and at that point Dave obviously a great goal by a woby. Oh, I mean world-class goal, honestly I mean I've seen it back umpteen times and Yeah, it was it was really really special. I mean arguably I think it was a it was a better goal than Ronaldo's personally On the night. Yeah. Yeah, I was miles better. Yeah, and all those was just back all given it was back all given We'll come back onto that now woby. I've it was evidence 1500th Premier League all as well. So nice one to get that but Great start and at that point Dave. Did you think? Go on and do these now because we'd look the way we came out the traps. We looked Ready for it. We were nicking the ball the crowd were up We were all over them day looked panicky and we get the goal and I don't know about you But I thought we could go on and you know, we look like we're really up for this game and we've got the goal I was encouraged. Yeah, absolutely But we we needed to build on it and that's what didn't happen they needed to be a another fairly fast and Because there wasn't Evan did whatever not often do which is just to kind of just retreat a little bit and just crumble a bit and United just became the better side and they never really lost grip of that And certainly in the second half they were far and away the better side I mean, I know we had the late flurry at the end and and you know the the the Anana header was unfortunate You know with the with the ball in from from Ghana who I thought actually looked really encouraging when he came on And you know, that was a real positive and yes, they could have got back into it But I think deservedly day one on the night Yeah, I agree. Do you think do you think that it's particularly in the first half after the way Evan's golden then shot back The manager seemed to the manager seemed frustrated with that but I've seen people saying that was lampards tactic Do you think it was a tactic? Oh, I think And I think that we have come such a long way in the nine games that When we started this season, we were playing with five at the back and you look at the Manchester the Chelsea game Sorry, and how we tried to close all the spaces down and then you go to Sunday against Manchester United You were a very good attack inside and I don't think the great at the back But I think they're a good attack inside and how open we were was unbelievable and the difference in the way We are playing now or trying to play I think Do and I think there was a bit of a mix sort of Idea, I don't know what what we were truly trying to do because we weren't We weren't really going forward with much vigor in terms of numbers But then we weren't also getting loads of men back and it just seemed a little bit of a Mixed ideology of what we were trying to do and I thought maybe that's where Frank Lampard didn't quite get it Right because he was almost at times asking the wide men to drop in But then they weren't really dropping in to be really defensively solid They were just dropping in and they weren't going forward. So it was a really it was a weird idea of how to play and maybe that's because things have changed so fast in in the spell of of the nine games and They've seen there once once we lost the grip of the game, which was self-inflicted because I'm at field over playing But I don't feel like I admit feel that any way to go sometimes with the ball because our wide plays were dropping Deep and our full backs weren't flying forward and then both goals are the full backs are caught high But they're not in positions where they would have done the opposition any damage either So it was a bit of a it was a bit of a strange night We never sort of quite knew where we were but ultimately like you mentioned before I you know two mistakes for the goals I think Pickford can be certainly looked after the first one. I think the second one is it's Awful goalkeeping. I know you people look for a big massive mistake But to me that is a big massive mistake because we were storm out yesterday and it's Conocoad he's getting to him the next step Conocoad he's engaging him Yeah, and they've picked for this just covering the area of the goal where he should be Ronaldo doesn't shoot and therefore I think it's a comfortable. Yeah, I think should Cody have slid in You know when you watch the stills day We've had to still we don't like to find a way Monday and broke them down and then we looked again Yes, if you look at the still the final still when Ronaldo shoots if you look where pick for this He's on the corner of a six-yard box But the whole near post is exposed. Yeah, and it just goes in at the near post whereas if he was if he was two or three Foot further back. He's got a comfortable safe. Yeah, and Cody could he give slit? I don't know But I think he's thinking I'm keeping this fella in the last man But I'm also keeping this fella on his wrong foot. Yeah, and Mike only who is makes brilliant save and has been a great form for 18 months or so Should really save this and I think Jordan pick for the if you asked them honestly I think he probably say I I probably was in the wrong position there I've made I've made a bit of this isn't if it's Ronaldo running through he's fine to come as far out as he did like the Antony one He comes out probably cause Antony's running in now. He could do better. He could stay up It's debatable. He gets a hand on the chip. He should maybe should save it But the second one is bad position from him and he's normally quite good at that. Mm-hmm. It was one of them But I think you're absolutely right. They once I think the difference and I know what you're saying as well But and I think maybe the differences with the ideology it is changing from let's let's not concede a goal So like like can we win a game? It's that you've got to go through that transition Yeah, and I think probably what bumped everything was we come up again I mean I said this to pet Dave people have been speaking about man United like the brother. You know what I mean? And they've got you know, they've got some tremendous footballers. I feel that's disrespectful to the Chico brothers It is a slightly disrespectful But what I mean is they are so comfortable in possession Erickson, Bruno, Fernandez, Casimiro, what a footballer. I said this last week, didn't we? You know and as much as don't don't don't get sort of blinked by the fact that they just come off the fact The the back of a battering by by city, you know, because as you say, they're a good side However, I must What I find frustrating most about Sunday night is not just the kickoff time is the fact that actually If we Had played anywhere near to our best We'd have been a match for them And I think the difference between Sunday night and perhaps meeting them another time We just we weren't we weren't as good as we have been recently on Sunday in every department You know, it was and Lampard said this as well, you know, they weren't at their best There was a lot of players having a bit of an off day, which does happen Um, but I don't think I mean if if we can draw positives from this I think that the the squad and the first 11 that we have Are more than a match for that united side that came out on Sunday night Playing at their best. Does that make sense? You know, I certainly don't think that they are You know light years ahead of us in terms of the players and their squad and all that kind of stuff I think we can match them. I just don't think that we played well enough to match them on Sunday I think it just it's individuals. Isn't it a lot of the time and you look at the individuals they had on the pitch You know, they're sitting in the attacking areas You know, you could swap you could swap three of their plays on the bench for that front three And it would improve our front three. That's where our that ultimately that's where our weakness is and it's It's not something that's going to happen overnight I don't think it can those front three can be improved on with time I think Individuals they've got, you know, I mean, obviously Anthony Gordon has got time on his side but what I mean is I just think there's We we need to get done back and it was great that he got on the pitch and and we need to get at least one more attacker who can score goals or wide man who can score goals because Like you're saying there Dave I think if we took them on and we might have gone five at the back and done what we did last season Then maybe you know what we might have grabbed something But we didn't we tried to be a little bit more attacking and I think you are like you said You have to be you have to be a little bit more Attack them wise if you want to win games of football It's just that we come across a team that punished us for two mistakes and both mistakes are so stupid as well I mean Garners is terrible because it's just it's a it's a bad touch Takes his eye off her You know, I will be tries to do a couple of step overs get displaced and yeah Chamber's commons are a position and and that's not down to shameless common, by the way And then it leads to a bad goalkeeping. So Two mistakes and they've punished us and Can we take out can we take something out the game the fact that Even though we didn't really play very well We almost could have got something at the end. You know, Dave they've had a 10 minutes at the end Where the fatter cling on for the lives It's that's it's that a positive because it wasn't as if we see in games last season Hang on would self-hampton see it as a positive to what because isn't that just what they did to us last weekend? And you know, isn't it wouldn't we be but we did partner ourselves on the back because of what we did Last week didn't we we did say we had to ride out that last 10 minutes Yeah, yeah, but I'm what I'm trying to say is there was games last season where that kind of last 10 minutes Just petered away. I just petered away They didn't they didn't they didn't collapse Did they I think is what we're trying to say is that they were still even though they were second best for the Majority of the game, you know take the start out the way But for the majority of the middle the fact that they did have the spirit and the fight and I suppose more importantly the fitness To still launch attacks right to the to the end I think has got to be a positive and has got to be an improvement from what we see and going back to what you said just before Dave I think getting someone like James Garner on the pitch is is massive because I've I've been critical of frank lampard than his subs I think he's I don't think he's been brave enough for times Or he's you know, and now he's got it. Yeah, and now he's got the now he's got subs He's got to start using them So to see James Garner come off on and have a bit of an impact on the game And obviously it was his shot that the hair had to push over To see him come on and that'd be an option now Uh, I think that's that's that's massive for us. Obviously don't come on the pitch was was big Anyway, you'd expect that but I think We yeah, we went to the end the third second half. We were fine I think you the difference of the second half was we didn't we didn't Make any mistakes therefore. They didn't really get too many chances And I think that that that showed Where you know where the game was won and lost so Um, you know, you know like talking about the substitutes and whatnot and saying how you know, we all said this Um before about the fact that we needed to get more than the one striker in You know and also let's be fair Mopey is not a prolific, you know starting number nine either No, um and and and that's all that we brought in and that's where I think we do find ourselves short I you know for one of a better example We need somebody in our squad like a Danny Ings I'm not saying Danny Ings, but somebody like that. You know what I mean some big proper strapping center forward Who is an option? You know, I mean I was watching the the the Villa game the other night and um You know he's an option for them to bring on and we don't have that option And I think that's the sort of player that we should have Found from somewhere. I'm not saying it is Danny Ings, but there are other players like him Yeah, yeah We should have in our in our in our ranks just to give us just to give us some options Rondon's not really an option is he bless him. He's no he isn't always he's coming to the end It's an all-out, but you know Frank they go kind of four Four to four almost at the end sign a grab a point and he put Rondon on and you're right, Dave if there was another Another you know ever like a proven a proven Premier League Always have two center forwards on the bench. There were both options always seven football club palace have three or four Crystal Palace You know teams like that. So that's I think that's the next thing and we can't do it all in one window We brought a players in and there's been a visible Improvement you can see that the team looks so much stronger Or be it sunday was our worst performance of the season after say that Just with the way we use the ball and everything else, but you know that We have to pick ourselves. We've got two very difficult away games and I know we'll talk about space in a bit But it's a case now can we pick ourselves up, isn't it? Yeah, it was just one of those nights. I think it was a I think we said last week it was going to be a Maybe a touch of reality to see where we were and we're just not quite there and you know I say well if we lose the ball in midfield and it leads to a goal You you've got to be able to see, you know, how to stop that what what we need to do. So Yeah, it was a I think we all knew what the frailties were anyway And it's in the front three and that needs to be looked at as soon as as soon as we can Was it always gonna be us for Ronaldo's 700th goal seeing Frank Lampard saying see not in the weekend So there we go. So obvious, wasn't it? You know, um, and it's frustrating because we could We always say don't don't we as Evertonians if you need your 700th goal Yeah, who do you want to be playing against? You know, it's a he'd never scored the gutterson I didn't know apparently. No, apparently. No, that's that's well I haven't double checked but the the common see on scythe's is first ever goal of gutterson will You know what we like to do that, don't we? You know, I mean put on a bit of a party for him making feel welcome You know give him give him give him more than just a going home back at the end of the day Oh Well, listen, I'm quite sure we'll bounce back. They hadn't had a great echoed against ever night. That was the first win in eight months so We'll bounce back. I'm sure Dave just on the just before we go on to space There was the air fryer was mentioned again yesterday. Perth hasn't forgotten But we had two boxes in the studio yesterday two scouts lads fighting at the weekend once fighting for a world title Um The air fryer came up in a discussion with boxes. No, yeah And you know, one of the boxers was very impressed at the size of your air fryer You've got the seven in one. Listen, he'd only had the what sound like the one in one almost He just so you had him in a knockout. Perd. There you go. He was a tkio, but um Yeah, he's very impressed. He said the boxing world is being taken over by air fries It's a very popular thing and uh, so you're almost are you almost ahead of the cave? Genuinely, I'm I'm when it comes to when it comes to these kind of things food-based technology I'm always, you know, I'm always way ahead of everyone. So, um, we're just building that tension for when we get the You know, I mean So I was I was only thinking about this this morning when I was walking back from the co-op And I thought that actually in light of the fact that we are bushless today. Yeah I think that even if today had been an option for the full display I think it would be wrong and I think it needs to be done with a full attendance It needs to be done with a full compliment. And for that reason, I think that you've got another buy That's it. Absolutely. Well, apparently people are buying them like, um, Like hot cakes. I was gonna because quite literally Uh, you can make hot cake in well, you probably can. I mean, you're probably making make a bit of everything in them that's how could they but because of because of um The few bills and everything and they make things so quickly that they'll bring your bills right down I imagine I imagine mine's already paid for itself. I imagine I mean, I haven't fully paid for it But it's probably paid for itself. I've I've just I've just had a thought here And I'm I'm putting together different facets, which I've learned from doing this show with youtube Ped doesn't like getting up early in the morning. His best time is late at night We all agree with that. In fact, he himself would also agree with that Yeah, the passion with which he is selling said product in a Visual manner would lead me to believe that perhaps you have a miss calling in being on one of these late night shopping channels I believe you might be right where you could actually extol the virtues of said fryer as a personal recommendation And this is something that that people should buy possibly an instalments over 12 months. I I'd like that I'm trying to I you know, I think you could um, you know, would you ever do that? Do you ever like I mean, I don't do but do you ever like wake up you film or sleep watching maybe a film And there and there is someone who was on children's tv 30 years ago was trying to sell you a watch And like mark curry or somebody. Well, no, he's the guy who's on itv used to do He used to do he used to do the weird What was that? It was like it was ongoing live But it was um with he went through all like the gunk and everything called the slime. I can't remember what his name is Paul someone Was it called double day double day number double day the guy who he does it and he's But it's mad because it is and do you feel like I feel how far have you people dropped you say that? Not it not a half one in the morning She's getting a make-up done isn't she? She's a bit of 3 a.m. Girls exactly, you know, um You could be on there could be like pet from soffy tv selling an air fryer for qv It would be a shopping channels are available. It would be a one trick thing. No, wouldn't it? I don't know. I think I think you've got the talent to sell all sorts of things I think I think in many ways you're possibly being a little bit harsh on yourself. You know, you never know The hidden talent of being able to sell things. Yeah, that's the thing isn't it? It is. It's a good salesman But to be fair, Dave, I I did think that was your career Uh trajectory. I must admit I did think that you know what I mean in many ways that would have been more exciting than the career Trajectory that I've been on. No, don't say that. You're a you're the man behind the catering. You're a producer Many a thing Behind the scenes. Now, do you know what? I'm actually quite happy here because I was I was always a bit of a reluctant Outfront person. It's probably a better term for it. But you know, we're here. Yeah, you're not really like it It's not really me. It's not really my my thing. I'm sort of happier actually just being in the in in the Going back to the I'm gonna go says the man who wore a matador costume on a bbc3 tv show Hey, listen, I was young and immature and I needed the money and the experience We all know what it's like when you're young and trying to craft your way in this industry called show Somewhere had another some do Some people take opportunities with both hands and I I was one of them And Just talking just we were going back to football before we finished now But I just said the boxers were in And I just I still you know when you sat like obviously boxing, you know, you should watch a bit of it I've moved away from you know when you sat in the room with them and you're looking at them thinking Your job is to go in through a ring and just have a scrap, you know You're getting pulled in the face. How are you? How are you so calm and where's your head space? Can I just into for one moment? I've just had a notification on my phone and it very much tells tells me where we are as a country Delivery room is now available on clarner That's Hang on. What's clarner so so clarner is is a Clarner basically and it is me against selling. It's like a low. Is it like a loan site? It's no It's not yes sort of it's basically now when you can when you buy clothes and stuff or or air fryers say You can buy them on three installments via The clarner so I always make a joke because I literally even if I've got the money always buy things on clarner I don't know why even if it's like a t-shirt for 20 quid. I get it on clarner I'm like what's the point in buying it in one go when I can buy it over three So but they're basically saying now you can buy takeaway so I can get a mcdonald's on drip on on a three on over over a three month That's grim that is the there's something very very dystopian about that Go on move on don't want to bring people down. No no just a boxing. Yeah, I just couldn't I just can't get me My issue when you were interviewing them was how much you kept them referring to ufc and I honestly thought one of them was going to Deck yeah No, I didn't I talked about molly and paddy because I'd seen their build-up I know I didn't get over the fact that they get punched in the face for a living. Could you know I just I still can't even at this age No, it's a great interview. It's a great interview. I it's funny Dave because the most Um, the most animator both boxes where it was when they were somewhere going to the asda the night before the fight To get all their food in for the following day. That's so that's the most excitement We got out. I mean don't do a great lads. What they were really really excited Apart from the airfryer chat They were really really excited about the junk food. They were going to eat the next day make lists They were like And how how they deprived of how they have to deprive themselves. It's mad, isn't it because you As soon as they walked in you offered them a coffee. He was like, I can't drink coffee Oh, what because they're in training. Yeah, but he fight literally on saturday. You can drink you can drink it on saturday You'll have a couple of cups because they can't have the caffeine before Oh, no And they're coming down off the seats and the other thing I'll link yesterday was I didn't I genuinely didn't know Was that when once the weighings done Like Peter put a stone on by the next day when he fights a stone and I was like So what's the weighing for but as kind of what he was saying was But they're both level at that. That's a bottle boxing trick that is and then by the time he fights It's gonna be quite fair because you look you'll both might have put like How far before the fight is the weighing is it the day before the day before Stone in a dive mat. So, I mean, yeah, I mean you've got to be shifting some dominoes, haven't you in that 24 hour period I mean, I've had weekends like that If they could teach me how to get the weight off I'll teach them how to get the weight on not an issue at all Yeah, not an issue that I could I could bring I could even bring the The air Worked on the weight on that's helping it, isn't it? Have you ever had air fried mass bars? No I haven't had anything air fried so I'm looking forward to but the boat ever Tony and so good luck to the lads at the weekend But but do you ever ever fancied a charity boxer match Dave getting hit in the head? No, no No, I mean you've had opportunities Dave I haven't genuinely I know I'm well we we have a we have a mutual friend or certainly a mutual associate Who has who has done it because obviously Rossi formally of radio city and And whatnot are now of greatest hits breakfast, of course He has done charity boxing matches and I've seen him kind of in training for that I've never I've never had the opportunity nor have I ever Wanted wanted to see to to actually do it. It's uh, I don't think it's really me No, what is I mean we've spoke about this we spoke about you doing a couple of games Just what is the weirdest thing you've been offered, but you've turned down. Yeah, that's an interesting Weirdest thing I've been offered but turned down But the thing is I actually don't have any memory of turning anything down Fair play I mean and that's one of those things I suppose I've never been in a situation where I've thought right well I'm in this lofty position and I can choose to either do this or not do this You know like people I know I know we keep talking about the jungle but but you know or any of those things Some people say oh, they've been trying to get me on strictly for so long and I've always said no They've been trying to get me in the jungle. I'll never do that They're waving checks in my face and all this and I'm sorry But it all does go back to money at the end of the day of course because you know Anything I've ever been offered over the years I've taken with both hands because I've sort of thought this is ridiculous the fact that somebody is offering me something like this And this opportunity will be gone very soon Therefore you you look at it and I suppose those were things that happened over that mad 16 year period That I was at radio one and you have all the associated stuff and then once it's gone It's gone as as the last 10 years approved It is it is weird isn't it when people criticise People for doing stuff in that way. Do you know what I mean? If you go these are on everything but if someone's throwing money at you And also it's what it's what gets you up the like the table of of like celebrity or into other ways Isn't it supposed I mean we spoke up. We I mean, I don't know how many times we spoke but about the jungle But again, someone like George North Made a bit of a tit out of himself but then redeemed himself massively And now it's just got like a new show on radio one and it's like one of the main presenters because people saw the other side I mean who's this kid? You know, it's not just a fill it in when someone's having a day off or a week off I didn't actually know no one now. He's got a now He's got a I mean I'd go as far as say Davis is definitely the most famous Sidekick on the radio that apart from the one that was on the allen party show that has ever ever been I personally think I mean, you know, I'm not blowing smoke up I'm but the fellow who got kicked off strictly this week. I'm sure it's the travel guy on radio two Yes, he's Zoe Ball's travel guy Wow Well, you know, I mean he's a he's a radio personality in his own right And and therefore he's he's you know, he he's as famous and as well known I guess as I perhaps was 10 11 12 years Let me just say this because I I never like that loved show your breakfast show won't be on And it is mad, isn't it that once we knew comedy Dave was never thrown in there No, I oh, I'm gonna stop there. No, no, no, no, no When he was on in the afternoons I was more your time. I didn't that's where Well, I got there early. I'm afraid I got there early. Yeah. No, I'm just saying when I when I and it's like me dad Dave's never thrown. I was like, what's he saying? I need like to have a little bit about everything you go Sam this it's mad how things like that, isn't it? I mean, you might have been great for the for the whole duration of it But it's little bit of a thing in that little short journey. I love I think I think also is is the fact that Even though we're a massive club, I don't think we're particularly well Well, we're not particularly well represented full stop in terms of the media. So therefore When you do find somebody right and I'm not just Whether it's me or whoever it is when you do find somebody It's a bit like oh, that's quite exciting because they're not like tenor penny Like Liverpool fans or man United fans or Spurs fans or Arsenal fans I mean, you know, there must be dozens and dozens of famous Arsenal fans on the telly and the radio And nobody gets excited, but I think it's different when you know with our club Absolutely and finally just on this With all the stuff that goes around on all the opportunity Do you are you you probably say no, but Is it this almost come kind of like 10, 11, 12 years too late for you in in the respect that You were obviously it was a big thing at the time and and you were you were huge weren't you with with what that show was for all of these opportunities No, like the Or strictly or that kind of thing Yeah, and I and I probably needed it more from a mortgage I know I know definitely I know definitely that my daughter would have benefited more if My time had been, you know, 10 years later. And by that I mean that my daughter's now 15 So of course she would have benefited far more in terms of free tickets and access to festivals and meeting famous people, etc Etc. Whereas at the time, you know, she was she was five years old and whatnot You know, so it wasn't really it wasn't really her thing And I know that there's times now where she's a bit like why can't you be on the bloody radio now because that would have been Really good because we could have got tickets to go to wherever talking of that, Dave And this is where the need your help in any capacity With you know Liverpool's got your revision. We've I I've got to be there. I love your revision Do you? Oh, I love it Dave. It's amazing You never fail to surprise me You're one of these you you are definitely a black or white person You know, we have a conversation before you came on and in Baz and I'm saying, you know what? He looks like a coffee guy rather than a tea guy Sure enough you are and you're the sort of person that would have either Absolutely hated the bones of your revision or would absolutely love it. No, I love it I love it. I love it because and I think I love it now because because of like twitter And you go on and it's like it's just a it's just the funniest night If you go on twitter and everyone's like it's it's all like well-natured and I love the commentary that you know You get from you know You get the commentary on the BBC and then you get people like Scott Mills and and you got Rylan now and people like that And they're just hilarious. They're allowed to be themselves Graham Norton is a little Terry wogan I used to love being on it. Terry Terry wogan for me was was a highlight of that because it was And I know nothing about inside on this, but it was it was to me It was so obvious that he was sat in some little booth somewhere with a very nice bottle of red wine Right watching this and as the night went on he became more and more relaxed. Yeah I think it's fair. It was such a good listen and he would get more and more barbed wouldn't he in terms of his comments about You know the latvians and the Lithuanians and whoever they were But I love the I love the fact that like the production value on it is just like through the roof But the music still on a whole terrible or very your visiony But I love like it's now a massive thing and I just love how if you get Most people are really good natured about it and I just really enjoy it. It's the only thing It's like you know when you've got like football and everyone has to you sort of Everyone sort of picks a side and no and with all sorts obviously But on this you just don't care and I I genuinely love it I absolutely can't wait for it to come to Liverpool You love the Kiev game because there was Oh the Kiev game was like singing before that game was incredible Before we move on very quickly just you've just mentioned something that David's sprung on memory When you used to do the impressions of of ken bruce and terry wogan my god They were awful. I know but it was And yeah, I mean I couldn't do them then and I can't do them now It was terrible Hey, do you know do you know something else on the Eurovision thing is you just reminded me that myself and Dominic Byrne who Read the news on the show We used to have a bank or folk face, right a joke folk band We play claston brian and various other things And and we actually auditioned for andrew Lloyd Webber to be the British entry for Eurovision one year And we actually performed a song we went to his offices in london We performed a song in his music room where he's got this big grand piano And he sat on this kind of chest afield leather sofa as I recall And in the end he said that he didn't feel it was right to put through because it was largely Racist is a wrong wrong term. I think xenophobic is probably a better thing because we we in in terms of the in terms of the the lyrics We were implying that most of the Balkan states and this is ironic considering where the world's gone of late Most of the Baltic states were voting for Russia because they were largely dependent upon them for their oil and gas You know and that was sort of how how the voting thing works, you know All the Baltic they they they vote for the big ones and we were trying to Highlight that with comedic value in there and he felt it was borderline xenophobic and therefore we didn't get the gig What a story See we tried to sort of like tease the story out of that before but you know, you know, you just it just comes organically Unbelievable the opportunities like the last because I know Dave's got to go but just very quickly Dave obviously a trip to spares on saturday forever and a very A very very tough game for ever and then obviously Disappointing defeat sunday and then You're probably a powerful man city couldn't have picked a tougher game Maybe arsenal to follow that one off both You know, you know, you know last week when we when we were talking obviously ahead of ahead of sunday's game and I said that actually The the prospect of having united at home didn't bother me at all I feel quite the opposite about this situation because the prospect of going to spares away At the moment with our confidence slightly knocked does concern spares always worry me You know, I mean Son on his day can be devastating. We know what harry kane can do, you know, and they've got You know many many others who are all capable of scoring Yeah, it bothers me. I think they I think they're good And um, I think it's going to be it's going to be tough at least Yeah, I mean you didn't you fail to mention with charles in there, which would be an interest I think the weird space though because I think if you catch them on the right day, they can be unbelievable But I think I think they're I think they're a weird side where if you catch them, right They do find it Tough to score goals and and are a little bit more defensive mind. You can frustrate them. I think yeah Yeah, and I think it's I think that's that's mainly what we've got to do on saturday He's trying frustrate them and then, you know try and catch them on the counter attacking It's funny because anti-golden suspended. I mean anti-golden has been absolutely terrible at home But has had bright spots away from home. So I suppose that's where the disappointment is It's just we can get dumb on the pitch a little bit longer And we can just just be a little bit more solid In the midfield not give the balls away silly Because they do have the likes of son and and the charleson space came a little bit less so in terms of pace But when he picks up the ball he uses it so well So it's of course it's a it's a it's a really tricky game So when games come in spells like this and obviously we follow we've got new castle midweek as well and they're flying as well Yeah, and and suddenly you look at it and you you think I'm If we can just get through this game, then it sets up the other games Then we've got some decent fixes after that But it is tough and again it might be one of those where it brings us back down to it with a bit of a bump but You just hope to see a little bit of progression You hope to see a bit more fighting as long as it's not well not it's not as long but you know last season was absolutely Well, I thought I was just gonna say we went there last season and played on the half way line And we got destroyed so I think Can't be as bad as that can it? Well, hopefully hopefully we'll go and sit a little bit But if we sit deeper, their pace won't expose us as much and then we have to be able to counter tap But it's gonna be it's gonna be hugely tough because they've got some tremendous forward plays, haven't they? Yeah, my worry is it's the scoring goals path for us. That's the problem You have to almost keep a clean sheet every game or just get one goal because because we just don't score That's our problem. We you know, and we I think we know that and I think the club Obviously are very aware of that that's where we have to improve things whether it's as they said earlier I You know, someone who can come off the bench and is a proper goal scorer A winger who's flying winger with a bit of pace you can score the goals Or just at least get done back into the team firing So, yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be a very tough game It will be like Dave, and now you've got a goal show. We will let we will leave it there But it will obviously be back to discuss this one next week. Hopefully to positive Hopefully with the bushmaster and the post master back master general That sounds like a discovery challenge show, doesn't it? But what master general what bush is he trying to general? I think I think it will be on after the deadliest catch Possibly quite possibly Do you guess let's let's let's get there. Let's leave that for another to be continued to be considered. Thank you very much, Dave Thank you. See you soon. All right. Thanks for watching. We'll see you later