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I'm David Feldman David Feldman show calm Please friend me on Facebook follow me on Twitter go to David Feldman show calm You'll see an Amazon banner click on that do all your Amazon shopping and we get a small percentage of everything you buy and For $5 a month become a monthly subscriber Well, this is a very special show because as you know, I like to give back to the comedy community as a podcaster I've been doing a comedy podcast for I don't know six years And it's it's a famous podcast and I'm great at what I do as a podcaster My podcast is in the top 500 on iTunes a couple of times a month and And as about the bagel As a as a podcaster I think I owe it to the industry to give back to pay it forward because I'm I sometimes threaten to quit the podcast and Just finally have some time to myself, which I really want and I just want to help you your bosses at the podcast I can you to stay they make it difficult for me to leave and I've tried to cut back the hours of the podcast Big week. Yes, David is the mother Teresa of podcasting so one of the things I want to do because I like to teach and It makes me feel good to give back to share my knowledge with young aspiring comedy writers I've decided today Imagine pay it forward. Yeah, but did I say pay it for the pop? Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do. Yeah. Yeah Okay, so one of the things I'm One of the things I'm trying to do is teach young comedy writers about comedy podcasts So with me is a friend of mine. He's a comedian He doesn't have a podcast But he's a comedy writer his name is Robert Smigel and what I decided Robert and I Robert Smigel and I will answer questions about comedy writing because I'm a seasoned experienced comedy writer with theories about jokes and Rules of threes and all that so Robert Smigel and David Feldman will answer all your questions about comedy writing how to get into Podcasting how to set up a comedy podcast. How do I get out of podcast? You know, you know, that's every podcast Once the stamps industry dies with the podcast industry follow right after Let me introduce these young comedy writers who want to ask David Feldman and Robert Smigel's questions young comedy This is Liam McEnany. You're a comedy writer and a great comedian 29 Andrew Goldstein is a young comedy writer and Thank You David and Gay blacks is a young comedy writer Thank You David and mr. Lawrence Mike Lawrence is a young comedy writer and let's just open up the tables here I'm David Feldman. This is my friend Robert Smigel. He too is a comedy writer He doesn't have a podcast though. Any questions you have I I will answer any questions you have about comedy Robert feel free to chime in so guys go ahead. Why don't we ask Mike Lawrence? You have a question for David Feldman or Robert if he wants to chime in. Mm-hmm What's what's the most popular thing that doesn't make you laugh? Oh That's a serious question. You didn't do the we're not doing the bit, right? Any questions For David Feldman or Robert Smigel was a bit any questions for David Feldman or Robert Smigel Who doesn't have a podcast? He's a good comedy writer. Go ahead David Feldman As a revered and experienced comedy writer Robert you have a podcast I'm not I wasn't sure from the intro of maybe you had three or four podcasts or if I had none So do you have a question for me or Robert? Went over this for four hours with you this is such a Actually Robert, do you have any regrets? Wait hold on. Do you have any regrets about hiring David Feldman to write for you? That's a much shorter answer I have a follow-up question what is time What is more unnaturally bright and yellow Donald Trump's hair or David Feldman's teeth I Know that's nice I Hadn't noticed that your teeth were that your dental hygiene was I don't are you that's something that's well-known among pod I'm trying to guess. I was in the podcast industry. I would know this We're by bin I Think David's teeth are You know, I've never noticed them because I'm I'm always fixated on the plugs. No, there's Make jokes in my head that I never repeat David's teeth. I have to say they're great as much money as he paid to have them put in they should be Learned from this question was that Liam likes to look at David's mouth Like That's Mike Lawrence Yellow like the Sun. Yes, absolutely. And that's Liam McEnany speaking Robert the first of them have podcasts The first time Dennis Miller Hired me and he walked into my office. He goes senator Proxmire Where the pot where the plugs that prominent Andrew Goldstein, you have a question. Yes, go ahead. I have with me Robert Smigel If you want to ask him a question or me David Feldman, by the way, I should mention in all fairness Full disclosure Robert does not have a podcast go ahead Sad to hear I wish you did. This is a question that will really interest you David. Yes, go ahead, you know Adam Sandler is back doing stand-up. He's touring with David Spade I also see that David Feldman is trying to work on a a new hour of stand-up. Do you have any advice? Did you did Adam call you for any advice? And would is there any advice that would apply to David Feldman? David Feldman trying to work on his new hour of stand-up Let me get this question right They're not doing To ask what advice I could give you They're not they're not doing the hang on for one second. I have a question He's reading off of the paper You're not given the bit is that I'm on it's a bit the bit is that I'm pompous And and I'm I said I'll build myself up right to answer all the questions are for me It would be all for you and I then I would do a slow burn for an hour angry and jealous that they're asking you questions I mean, but you're so tongue-in-cheek in your delivery that the pomposity isn't reading Rather you seem to be tearing down Walls of pomposity that we all deal with in our everyday lives and we are all grateful for complaining about how your Meticulous plans for a podcast are slowly falling apart is pretty pompous You didn't follow the script of this podcast Make me seem controlling Scripted podcasts aren't a bad idea. Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't mind seeing more spring They were popular in the 30s. We used to do those Like that podcast podcast in the That was like a parody of an old like a burns and Allen kind of a sitcom burns and Allen are two dead people That were comedians on vaudeville through the 60s Right Well, I I just have one question. Well, you can ask some questions guys I just have one then we'll get back to the bit that's going so well I want to ask you about my mama the song my mama on the come poop with me album Just love this. I I think that is one of the funny James Lipton treatment My mom Listen when you were writing those cum jokes and you needed to rhyme for the word come dumpster for dumpster. Yeah, I Struggled with them and then I put it in the middle of the line The TV show monster no, that's not quite sometimes you just have to scramble the lion around to accommodate the rhyme Sorry, you had a From Mother's Day I went and visited my mother in New Jersey, and I played her triumph singing my mama Which is you know my mother didn't like it that's made me laugh even harder than the song No, that I told you that that your mother didn't like my mom She would play it for somehow personalized it like this is what you're right No, we're not dogs remember we're humans. This is if a guy with the mother was a dog It's not about your fur burger Ryan write one about yours Okay, why don't you ask Robert Smigel a question? Oh sure I'm Lauren Spivak This is brought to you by Timex Robert, how did it look well come about and you have any ideas for future episodes that? ideas for future episodes I Would have someone wanted to do look well, but what was no well look well was a Half-hour pilot done for NBC in like 1991 I think and it started out of West and basically the concept so there was a guy at the guy a Spike Farreston who wrote for Seinfeld. He wrote the soup Nazi sketch and or show episode and Anyway, he was like a receptionist at SNL in the early 90s and He just was telling me about A gig he got at Nickelodeon for Adam West Where he yeah, I got assigned to write a TV show for Adam West and he wasn't sure what it was gonna be And then just off the top of my head I said have him play and that's what the lukewarm premise ended up being have him play a Washed-up actor who used to play a detective who thinks he can still solve crimes can't stop solving crimes in his head and that's very simple premise and You know Conan and I thought it was a perfect Adam West thing we had just seen Adam West at Has everybody seen the Batman movie from 1966? Yeah, shark repellents like one of the first jokes. It's it's still the best Batman movie and The scene where oh, sorry. No, it's okay. I was gonna say the scene where It's been a while since I've watched it I might get the details wrong but Batman and Robin are tied up and the penguin is gonna like throw up our launch a bomb at them Oh, that's classic. Yeah, you don't see how they get out of it later Dilling Robin. Thank God that porpoise jumped in front of the bomb Leaders are turned to dust and then they're yes brought back to life, but they have each other's voices Yeah, and that's how they solve world peace. Yeah, they wouldn't just kill each other Is that the one where Batman has a huge bomb yes cartoon bomb and he like runs to the can't find a place to get rid of it There's a bus and there's like a line that he actually says some days you just can't get rid of a bomb One end of a dock and there's like a couple lovers that it could do and then he turns the throw to the other side of Duck and there's just some baby ducks And it's just yeah every Possible great Batman movies in that movie and it was a huge bomb Actually, because the move the show was can't get rid of them That's funny people shit on that as if like it wasn't in on its own jokes, right? You know the show or the movie the whole thing. I think both of course it was in on I know but people look at it now Look how corny that wasn't like it knows what it is incredibly stupid. Yeah, I don't know No, they're not worth knowing such people know the movie back then it was everybody Adults loved it as an inside joke I mean unless these people are five years old like I was five when Batman came out and everybody we all loved it for all the wrong reasons we took it seriously and but It's one of the funniest shows that's ever been on TV and the movie is I think his performance in that movie is one of the funniest No one ever talks about it, but it's one of the funniest Performance is ever in a movie. It's it's amazing every move He had as Batman is in there and You know so Conan and I and Greg Daniels a great writer who created the office later We're all SNL guys and we had seen When Michael Keaton's Batman came out we went to cinema village and it was playing the 1966 one Was playing there with Barbarella, which is a whole other podcast, but but anyway So we had Adam West on our minds anyway, and so then I had this idea for a look well and Conan and I just were all over it and It's interesting because that sort of premise is alive now with the grinder Oh, yeah, the same show and suits is basically the same show suits. I don't know well sad Nobody watches USA, but yeah, yeah, it's basically somebody who pretend pretends to right has an expertise But isn't trained and I was ahead of my time And Adam West is like big-on family guy like he got a So glad he ended up, you know somebody else who was a fan of his found a who's actually successful Found a way to employ him consistently, but yeah anybody who hasn't seen it if nothing else, but for Adam West performance he's amazing and look well and hilarious and yeah, we You know, I couldn't believe they even wanted to make it because it was such a silly premise and I honestly didn't know if it could have Sustained for a zillion episodes, but nowadays. Yeah, there's so many more networks that I'm sure would have at least Got in a shot, but back then it was like literally NBC ABC CBS and I don't think there were any cable networks yet doing Original programming were there. No, there was like syndication like Metro media and there was there were cable networks Yeah, but there's a basic in terms of weird comedy. There's that didn't even exist. That was it. That was 91. Yeah Oh, okay. Yeah, so the space ghost was like two or three years later How do you watch comedy when you like when you're I'm serious like when do you lose it? How much because I do a thing with my kids They have 40,000 songs on their iPod and I say play me 15 seconds of each song I'll tell you whether or not it's worth my time. How do you know? How do you deal with this tsunami of comedy coming your way? How do you know I ignore it? Like to think it's not there that I'm the only one doing funny things. Uh-huh. It's just simpler No, seriously, how do you what kind of diet do you have to stay on top of the most comedy? I watch for like Disney Channel shows because I have two eight-year-old boys and You know Some of them are actually I'm embarrassed to say you're kind of funny They're they're not as bad as the ones like from 15 years ago, but I don't think your audience wants to I do Disney what Disney shows Yes, yeah Well, there's this great show where these kids are all in a karate club It's called kicking it. It's called kicking it. Yeah, and It actually gets oddly surreal at times Like it's obviously guys who want to be doing these kind of jokes on somebody somebody else's show And they're sneaking it in to the to the kids show. Are you are you? I mean the seriously because this was something I struggled with are you able to lose yourself with your kids in a show That they're watching because I really struggled. I was if it's a great show. I mean there was a show called the aquabats that was on a few years ago on the What was the name of the net the hub and it was basically have you heard the band the aquabats? Yeah Well, they actually had a TV show Like four years ago that was the closest thing to oddly enough Adam West's Batman That I've seen on television. It's really really funny. There's just basically a rock band that are also Superheroes, but it wasn't that kind of like bad superhero joke where it's like Oh, he has the power to fly for 30 seconds or you know, it's been done, you know a thousand times They're just it really captured the spirit of the Adam West show and You know it was on a network that was owned by Hasbro and So they couldn't figure out a toy tie-in. So they got rid of it But the same guy who created Yo Gabba Gabba. Do you guys know that at all? Yeah? Yeah. Well, it's fantastic show The best music I've ever heard on a kids show and same guy created that and those are like two of the few shows Bismarcky on it. Yes, Bismarcky was on it and Mark mother's Bob was on it and There were they had a lot of musical guests and and it was a great show and Those were a couple that I did get lost in like this is amazing I'm having as much or more fun than my children watching it. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Can I ask you a question about one of your past projects because I was like, well Jesus What do I ask like because he's like you're like well, this is the only appropriate Like venue to actually interrogate you about Because like if I see you like backstage of your show, I'm not gonna like yeah, grab your arm And but you know get out much so I'm happy to talk about this You were writing a Hans and Franz movie. Yes with Arnold's. This is what I read with Arnold Schwarzenegger So like what what is the like? It wasn't written with it I See at his Santa Monica restaurant with his final draft. I didn't think he was at a word processor going like oh What is the next show? He's fucking the maid every time you guys are trying to bring No, he He was not at the keyboard scene This is just I'm not buying it fellas. I'm on we can beat this joke. I Know it's three in the morning, but I solved that to I want 12 Sorry, I said something funny. I know I want to everybody be quiet I want to put as much pressure on this as possible. I said, which Conan was easier to deal with I thought you said something fun My mistake You are very intimidating to try to be funny in front. Oh god. It is true. Well, who are you? Let's talk about everybody. Let's talk about when I meet people like Albert Brooks. I'm like so thrilled and Excited and at the same time. I can't wait for it to be over I just I don't want to bore him. I don't want to say something stupid So I really want to talk like my head is racing with excitement and just when is this gonna end? I want to talk about this for because this is important because We I said to at the last minute we booked you and we said let's get our friends who are comedy writers who? Want to talk to you and everybody and people are intimidated by you you are because of but you don't intimidate like in a room You don't intimidate the right you bring out the best. I do. I don't know. I think I think you encourage people to be funny Yeah, good laugh for it. Yeah, what I think is important if you're running a room is like Don't hold back positive like you know Like it really helps me when the head writers that I've worked with are like, yeah as opposed to saying yeah I could see that they just laugh for real and you can actually Feel their excitement. I mean, right? That's the least you can do as a head writer is give because if you're gonna be shooting down so much shit You know as a living the least you can do is Get excited when something really can work and make it a point to credit people And there's a time for writing and a time for saying no, right? When you're kicking around ideas, you really don't need to stop and ask whether or not something is funny Yeah, I mean sometimes if something for example things David says Are so way off base that you just want to put a pin in the four You know the whole room we all know what David's asking you know, why did you say no to so many of its jokes? You just want to protect the room from the collective Is this podcast appearance you're form of an apology No, David's David's an incredible writer. He doesn't really like to Go nuts in a room. You don't you hold back a little bit. Yeah I think he's one of these guys who's constantly has a monologue in his head of whether Everybody else is funnier than him at the moment like he's he's he's Do you would you agree with that? I feel that sometimes from you like that your confidence gets shot If too many people are being funny at him in a moment. I think I roll back Well, I don't think everybody's that way. Well, I think if everybody's well, no, I don't think that's true Some people are totally fearless and you know, not necessarily a good thing either well, I'm in awe of Certain people. Yeah, like if we're in a room with Andy Breckman. Well, Andy Breckman is like that He's completely fearless and he'll say anything right on his mind because he figures That one gets shot down It's the same way guys are with girls There are some guys who will just ask any girl out, right because it's like fuck it I get I get comedy crushes. That's I I've talked this over and I get comedy like Brian Rich Coman Breckman, so there's certain people when you're in a room and you just you just start turning beat red and I can't talk to this girl I appreciate that very I know you have a question but with I want to mention Brian who came up with pimp bot I Think Brian did I mean I think he I always thought he did and then he sort of corrected me and said I think he had the initial idea of combining them and then somebody else wrote them or something So they're I apologize for that. I will shut up and you guys can I promise this will be the last thing I say But I just stop asking questions on your show Character on Conan's show in 1997 or which is sure 96 I remember him interacting with Jonathan Harris from Boston Space. That was one of my favorite things. Yeah Let me just I wasn't a regular I wasn't there at that time But you were the first head writer of Conan. Yeah for a couple of years and then and you were on Saturday night at the same time No, I left SNL to do Conan actually It was I didn't overlap. I mean I there would be insanity. He'd be working 30 hours But wasn't there like a period where you there was a period where I wrote Well, I mean well when you're in that building they they kind of farm you out Well, like everybody goes on Seth Meyers now who's on SNL. Yeah, like it's like part of the gig I guess but you were going up and down. Yeah, no what I did was I basically did SNL for eight years and then I left to be that writer at Conan and then I left that job and kind of Didn't either but both I would write sketches when I felt like it for SNL and And I Conan I would continue to do the same if I had an idea I'd write it in or I would be a performer like I would You know by then I was the guy who did all the photograph interviews the clutch car goes, right? So I was there a lot just to do that and then And then I did the Inna Carvey show which failed, but I created the ambiguously gay duo cartoon so and Then over that summer I thought of like three other cartoons that I really wanted to do and I called Lorne Michaels And said I think I've come up with a way I could go back to SNL because he didn't he wanted me to come back He wanted me to come back and produce the show like he had that disastrous year with Where Jeanine Garofalo was there and then she left and then there was a horrible article in New York magazine a real hatchet article and He was under a lot of pressure and he like Jim Downey was sent away It was like the greatest SNL writer ever and he asked me to produce and I just didn't want to do it But a year later after the Carvey show failed I thought of doing cartoons and so then I did that for 11 years while doing and Then I came up with triumph and so now I had two Big things that I was doing at Conan so then I kind of was under contract for both shows for like literally 11 years it was incredible It's just like because I didn't have to have an office gig, but I had two salaries from these shows It was just the best setup imaginable and then finally Conan went to Hollywood and right at the same time they let they Finally got rid of the curtain So then I had nothing What makes a great Saturday? So then I wrote Jack and Jill. No, I didn't write Jack. What makes a great punch lines SNL writers It's somebody who can go to the can work by himself or work with it's is it being able to collaborate and enjoy the company different it's like I Mean it depends on how good you are at what you aspire to be. I mean yeah most SNL writers are collaborators and They churned in yes, they exactly. No, I was waiting. I was looking right at you when I said it waiting for the Holocaust reference, but no, but you're under so much pressure time pressure. You've got to write this you know three or four sketches in a day and a half and So to think you could really turn out that much by yourself is Foolish, but Jack handy and Andy Breckman. Those were two of the ones two of the very few who would write almost always entirely by themselves and they were perfectly formed pieces absolutely, I mean Jack's pieces a lot of times would play it like 10 to 1 and wouldn't get a ton of laughs, but You know had obviously a super loyal audience and then he had other ones that were enormous hits like toon sys the driving cat and he Unfrozen caveman lawyer was an interesting one because it Because it didn't really get laughs, but Lauren Loved it so much and I do too. I think it's one of the funniest Ideas I've ever seen on the show And he loved it so much that he just he would put it on at least like right like right after update like that early and And over and over and over well the theme song was just Half the sketch, so I don't think no no Catching on with people. Yeah, I mean I well, I think you do anything. I was singing the Yes, yeah, but then probably blanking out after that There were some could there were some bad sketches or some show or some characters that would We're on too many times and the theme song would be like You it was almost like a trick They would play the theme song and the audience would applaud like hey I know this and I liked it a year ago And then like down he would call it like just get that initial burst and then just hang on for dear life That was the way he described those sketches Did you ever write a throwaway character that then became a recurring character and you're like I've got to write this shit again a Throwaway character or just something you saw would be a one-off that you know Well, I like the Chicago bear fans thing that I did. I didn't even think it belonged on SNL It was something that I did with Odin Kirk in Chicago when the writer strike happened there was a writer strike in 1988 actually or 89 and and the season was cut short and Bob and Conan and I were all writers there and we decided to do a sketch show in Chicago Bob and I had you know got in our starts in Chicago and And on that show we We did the first the bear sketch the first in the year 2000 which became a Conan thing and The nude beach sketch that was famous for having the word penis in it 60 times or something and one other one other famous one but But yeah, it was a killer sketch in Chicago and then I just you know Never thought about it again, and then Joe Mantegna hosted and Bob Insisted we pull it out and turn it into a sketch and I didn't understand how it would work, but then we Rift on it a little more and came up with something that was more accessible than just saying the bears over and over again Was there like a cast member you really enjoyed writing with or for Carvey was the first guy. I really bonded with in the cast And he was there my second year is when he joined and I just liked him a lot as a regular He's a really easy guy to talk to incredibly down-to-earth unpretentious and And he was one of these guys who unlike David I never talked to David The big torture David's pompous and so that's that David No, this is Or we could pursue the David Once a comedian who does impressions and the other someone is doing an impression of it Joke I'm holding on to the collaborative that you felt the need to say that's a joke It's intimidating to finish that joke. Yeah, really. This is so wrong when I think I have that collaborator joke finished Related to that I find it interesting that Rock spade Sandler Schneider of that class and then before that Dana Dana Neal and in Dennis Yeah, the previous class standups. Yes, and then you look at the show now and they're not really hiring I'm not and the ones that they do don't last very long guys like Brooks Wheelan, etc. So interesting Wow, you know, what's that transition like for a stand-up to cast member? Why do you think Lauren isn't sort of using this here again to stand-up pool right now? Here's a guess Stand-ups aren't very good right now. That might be well, there's a turn around. They have Davidson Leslie Jones Davidson's in there Michael J. They're all stand-up John Rodnitzky the newest hire. He's a stand-up. Oh, yeah Colin was more of a writer who became a stand-up. He's a great stand-up. Yeah, I didn't realize her I Think what I was gonna say was That I think there are more outlets For commute for people who want to be in comedy now than there were when Dennis and Dana like Dana may maybe he wouldn't have been a stand-up back then. Maybe he would have done videos and he would have been a YouTube star Yeah, he may have done other come up with other vehicles to do his impressions This makes me so sad because he did those like songs on like as in a stand-up that he ended up doing on SNL Yeah, chop a broccoli and yeah the cat on the tree, I know He might not have chosen to be a stand-up now. There is more There's just more ways to you know get out there and be funny That aren't like clearly defined as just live sketches or Stand-up comedy back then you really just that was your choice and speaking of Dana Carvey When did you and Schwarzenegger decide to write the Hans and Frantz together? Well, Arnold and I you know had costar and predator, too Time to bleed And No truth about that movie was so Arnold did come up with this he initiated. I'm sorry I'm like very obsessed with with this. It's a great movie script. I'll send you the script. Please do. Please do Wait, Robert, could you send me that script too? I just want your personally milk that one was online and my Green Lantern first draft is online and like some assholes Really, you know I'm reading of it as if it sucks and really like a damn card kind of thing Well, no, they do it with a lot of scripts. Well failed scripts, but I think the idea was this was ridiculous Well, the reason it didn't get made it was written for Warner Brothers They wanted to do a comedy version of Green Lantern and I actually thought well That one actually kind of makes sense because the joke Anything where the guy has no power at all. He gets this ring. It's like the mask. Yes I have a green Lantern wedding ring. Exactly. Yeah Kind of sad, but yeah Yeah, that's legit Inside if you're listening home, there is engraved inside. Yeah. Yeah, why 50 bucks Etsy To get that done. Yeah Wow, did you have it done before you got married? Oh Yeah, he knew he was just ordered it and he got married After the fact he may have we broke the glass and then we ended the ceremony by doing the oath everyone there Holy shit, why wasn't triumph there? Holy shit, so yeah, it was gonna be Jack Black, right the Green Lantern Yeah, they wanted to do well Jack wasn't on board with it I called him up because I knew him from you know the mr. Showworld and He's like dude. I don't know about I don't know about superhero stuff But I wrote it with him in mind anyway because he was the image that was making me laugh and You know, it was just nonsensical like in the real Green Lantern lore You know different people are chosen over time to like Abinsur's You know his ship crashes and he chooses the howl Jordan originally because he's got this rare mixture of courage It's a ring that only picks worthy people, but they're always Americans and usually why yeah pretty much It's like the Academy one black guy. Yeah, yeah, John Stewart Stewart. His name is There is an architect the difference. Yes. Yes, John Stewart so real last name left goods Well that guy Gardner was the comedic one guy Gardner was kind of comedic And it probably would have offended fewer Green Lantern fans if I'd made him guy Gardner Yeah, but I made him a fictional character like I just retold the story and just Had Abinsur pick a guy who was on a fear factor Yeah, and had eaten disgusting food and it was Jack Black and For some reason You know this absurd reason to pick this guy for having this odd combination of fear of a bravery power Yeah, and then at the end it turns out that the bad guy in the movie Caused Abinsur to pick the wrong guy. So it's all explained, but but it was this comedic premise that like sort of what if the wrong guy You know a slacker gets the ring and fans got mad Horrified when the word got out that Jack Black was going to do it right because it's not the way it really happens The reality like exactly and then we were given the shittiest Green Lantern movie. Anyway, yeah, so that was way worse than No, I know that was somewhat satisfying I mean I never saw it, but it sounded like yeah See maybe this should have been a comedy because it is there is an absurd element to the whole It is the mask it's like a shrub who gets omnipotent power Yeah, was it not made because the studio was afraid of the fan reaction or because I think the fan reaction It was a rare instance where the fan reaction absolutely Had some effect at least but I think they also started to Worry about the idea because they thought oh this is less likely to be a tentpole Right like almost every movie now is made With the idea that you're make you're gonna make five of you. Yeah, otherwise. It's not worth it You know, I mean every non-comedy movie. That's you know expensive is made that way with that in mind so um and and many comedies actually but um But anyway that movie I wrote the script and then Jack Black wanted to do it. So that's what I Carry with me with that project is that I actually turned him around He thought it was funny and he actually wanted to do it, but by then they Just didn't care didn't want to do it. Anyway, the Hans and Franz movie. Sorry is um So Arnold had the initial one. I only have extreme OCD so if you don't finish it, it's gonna ruin my life Okay, good So the Saturday Night Live anthology movie Now that one Now that one So it was a It sounded like a horrible movie to me. Just like I heard arnold's just was idea was this is all they come to And I just thought this is uh, how could we possibly Like I had seen the cone heads movie had just come out And the cone heads are maybe my favorite snl characters ever That and the two guys the night watchman. I hate when that happens ball peen hammer Yeah, those are maybe my ultimate Christopher guest and billy crystal. Oh, wow, really? I just thought it was a brilliantly hilarious vaudeville style I just loved it and and it's also one of the few catchphrases that you still hear people say I hate when that happens. It's like I can't believe people still say it but they do and like nobody ever says You look marvelous Especially to me or isn't that special or it pretty much? When they see when they see you they say I hate when that happens I mean Dana's George bush impression did become George bush Anyone else talks about genius impression because like those are the best impressions when the best impressions are of people That nobody can do Yeah, and then suddenly everybody can do them right because of one person right and that's what happened with George bush Yeah, like will jordan crack the code and how do you crack nixon? Was he the first ed Sullivan? Oh with ed Sullivan. Yeah, right Uh, we have to you have to get you out of here. Oh, yeah, but how are we doing on time? Let me answer the haunts and fronds one since it was you know, you can send me a 17 paragraph I'll just do that But they lived in little austria in the neighborhood in new york where uh Like you get off the subway and suddenly there's lush rolling hills Between skyscrapers kind of like what you do with zoe like a 10 Did we do that joke in zoe? No, but it was like a little israel in in the middle of new york city Like yeah, but this is way farther. No, that was just like a real like little italy kind of place Right, but here it's like literally There's buildings here buildings here and then just in the middle there's like Four blocks worth of just rolling hills and cottages and muscle men lifting cows and just You know that was kevin kneelins idea and um You know and we made it a musical I thought well, I could I could see how it would work if it was a musical because then you kill like 30 minutes with songs and I would like to see haunts and fronds and arnold sing you know and So the first 30 minutes were about it was like a peewee's big adventure kind of feel to it With a make-believe kind of backstory in life and then the last hour is they get to hollywood and it's a big parody of just show business and arnold's over-inflated, you know status and Incredibly silly. We're running out of time. Okay. So two questions. I want to ask you about the hulu special Yeah, but very quickly right is rapschneider underrated Is it fair is it fair the treatment? Is the is it fair the treatment that rapschneider gets? No, there's a lot of people like that who get where it becomes more hacky to make fun of right Then it is then their worst hackiest moment right and schneider is one of those people schneider. I mean, you know People just seem to want to descend on the worst work That somebody's created right rapschneider is one of the funniest Guys in the room and he was a hilarious writer at snl and wrote really smart sketches for himself and for other people And was hysterical was hilarious hilarious. He's a great actor sometimes in the movies like that and then he also I don't know. I thought douce bigelow was actually really funny the first douce bigelow I don't know. He's a hilarious guy and he can sing He sings like Elvis really well. He's got a great voice was a huge part of my childhood making copies That was a huge part of my childhood. Well, it was also it was a genius Like it was such a brilliant Observation just you know because a lot of people Do like ha ha awkward small talk people are awkward But he like went to step beyond and it's like well, this guy's so awkward all he can do is Make up bad nicknames for people and just have sort of this really redundant way of connecting with people and uh very quickly. I guess what was your comedy light bulb Like when you were a kid like like for me It was watching John Cleese as a boxer beating the crap out of an old lady in Monty python. Do you think that's true? Or he's making I swear to god. It wasn't some moment on gilligan's island or something We are a sounds better to say no that gilligan's island was in my first direction when mrs. mrs. Howl Oh, lovey I my Chino Louise was Jewish by the way. I should mention that I mean I there was a comedy light bulb that went on my head when I was watching Monty But what do you mean by a comedy light? I was watching Monty python. You light goes over your head and you decide to get plugs I'm sorry. No, what's this because plugs are hilarious. They are. No, come on. What what do you mean by a comedy light? I want to be in comedy or comedy is great This moment as a kid where you go now I get comedy and mine was watching John Cleese as a boxer beating the shit out of an old lady because I thought he she was going to beat the shit out of him And he beats the shit out of her and I go, oh, that's comedy and David was like I can get into a business where I can beat the shit out of him One day was there a it was there a moment where you you know felt like I understood Yeah, what was I don't think I ever didn't think I understood. I thought it was all I it's just sort of an evolution where you understand Gradually more and more like you know like I guess when I was A little kid I laughed at certain that was and that's kind of a light bulb If there are things that were kind of adult that you laughed at on one level When you were younger and then you're a teenager and like, oh my god This is hilarious for all these different reasons Batman was kind of like that and I would watch reruns of it when I was 12 and I would see you know how how The whole thing was uh, you know this brilliant parody and And even like charlie brown like I loved it more than anything when I was six years old but There were all these dry jokes that I didn't get You know until I was you know 11 or 12 Right, so but I don't think there's any single Thing that were you told me the first 40 minutes of the producers Is like absolute perfection. There are a few things like that. Yeah Absolutely the first maybe is it the four until dick shawn basically And he's good, but it's like then it becomes very dated all of a sudden It's like a parody of that certain kind of the first 20 minutes in uh, biella stock's office is like It's incredible. It's it's one of the most precisely written and directed pieces of comedy. Yeah No, it's just it's insane. It's it's amazing. And you got some anyway, let's talk about you got to go I'm being greedy hulu talked about let's plug the hulu. Hmm The comet triumphs the triumph the insole comic you have a dog named triumph the insole comic dog and he's 2016 election special which is a hulu and people should subscribe to hulu do a fair They don't have to subscribe. They can click on a link They can just go to hulu's main page and then There's like a photo of triumph and mike huckabee and if you just click it They will let you watch it And if they go to you don't have to you don't have to subscribe And if you go to I don't know why but try and so try i'm feeling so comfortable You already cashed the check if you're willing to say that But I also think they they told me they're like they just want more people to see it Right, so they put everything out on youtube too and individual clips, but they It's you know, if you go to your link or my link, I mean your twitter page or mine I think you may have the link out there too, but on the triumph icd hq headquarters We put the link on the you know on the twitter page right that's right I noticed that like two nights ago that if you go to if you go to trumpians hill comic dog on twitter Click on the link you can watch the entire nine minute comedy special for free Maybe you have to say what year you were Were or weren't born in and not the blow smoke of your ass, but it's it's great like honestly It's like the best was a big part of it. Well, even even so despite finish that thought robert David's big part of triumph in general No, but I was gonna say is like there's there's a very little like good political satire being produced. It's great Is it really like because it's the thing about this Culture like I read amazing reviews and this isn't a humble brag like where I'm pretending I'm upset about this To express the show has gotten amazing reviews. That's true But a lot of the reviews it's like it's the only thing out there You know this guy's been neutered and this guy doesn't you know I I feel like there's still lots of funny political satilists I what did I told you over the night where it's like you go straight up into the guy's face. Well, that's why I Do that because yeah, well, that's why I did it because I felt like okay I'll be able to add something right by you know actually confronting people But like the huckabee thing is both funny and sad Any guy watch it again last night because it's just like you can't believe that huckabee's there Can't believe if you if you're if you're listening at home He triumph gets mike huckabee into a hotel conference room To teach him how to insult the other candidates right and it's just donald trump success Yes, but I mean but it's like you you make a joke about his what like his weight and his wife to his face It's clear like you see the veneer just dropped for half a second Because he's so mad at you but you can't say that on camera. Yes You and ali g are like the only ones who get it right well Yeah, I mean and will ali g depends on fooling people generally you guys are they have So it's harder for me in a way. I have to like convince people that they're going to be humiliating They know going in that they could potentially not look good But most of them I think on balance mike huckabee comes off great Well, that's the other thing is like I would never vote for that guy for county dog catcher But like I would hang out with that guy because he just is such a good sport about almost all Yeah, and so many people like vote on Liking people or not who you want to get a beer with to me the judge of a person you're talking to Is their line of sight? Do they look at you or the Savvy are they Yeah, to me. It's like his huckabee huckabee looked right at triumph. Yeah the guy was yeah. Yeah That was amazing. Well, he's been on he had a tv show on fox for like eight years or something I mean, he's a performer right, you know I told you about going back to the political center and then I know you have to go I told you the weekend the show is so good. It makes me angry Yeah, what was the reason you because then you watch other stuff And I just go This is not even in the neighborhood. I don't know. I think I think colbert's Opening bits after his monologue are as funny and well written as every but every well be in oliver doing Great stuff. It's a little bit different. You know, they're both like Teachers, you know, they're they're doing that thing where you're half of it is Just enlightening people to facts and then being funny about it John oliver's takedown of trump by the way. It's phenomenal. It's great. It's one of the best things that's ever Haven't seen it yet. It's it's It's triumph so now you're against trump again Comedy convinced you to or are you a closet when you tell me things like he's not that bad This is specific a radio I'm a liberal It's not that you're not a liberal. It's just like compared to ted cruz No, no, no, all the listeners have heard davis thoughts about the mexicans. So we all That's another show that I The more evil cruz believes what he says. That's exactly the way more I've said since the summer that I would vote for trump ahead of cruz. Yeah Well, the thing is you've seen cruz up close. Is he an actual lizard person? Because like he actually could be a lizard person. He's a marionette. He's an actual marionette They did a neurological study that there are contours in his face That bring out anger and people. Yeah, like this. He has a the most punchable face There was a scientist who was explaining why that is Felt minion His voice is so creepily musical like, uh, you know, his delivery is like an evangelist too Dude, his wife said that he in order to when he needs to calm himself down He calls her from the campaign bus and sings Broadway shows to her. 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