 It is early on a Tuesday morning, we're still in LA. Everyone's wearing pants today. Big update and it's time. Run it back. Starts now. Let's make sure, okay, laptop, laptop, laptop, Chandler. We can get you one. I mean, if times are hard, we'll put it together. It's economy. Good morning. This is Run It Back. This is Shams. That is Chandler. That is Eddie. And second day in a row, we're all together. We're not fired. I'm excited. We all look very alive. Honestly, back-to-back days, we're going. We added layers, like that's big. Speak for yourself on the internet. Two chains. Two chains for Eddie. Put that four a.m. wake up, not doing it for you Eddie. This is the first back-to-back I've done in 10 years. Good. We have one more tomorrow and then we'll get through it. But we're going to start today with the Hawks. There's a team like this, I think, every season. It's the Achilles heel, if you will. A Hawks beating the Bucks. Second time, seven days. Your biggest takeaway from that is, do they have their number? I don't know if they have their number. I think the Bucks got off to such a hot start and they're, you know, they're slowing down a little bit. They're obviously missing Drew Holiday. They're missing Chris Middleton. They're relying on young guys now like Bo Champ, who I love. I think he's a kid. Yeah, he's a Hooper. But, I mean, listen, I think the best version of the Atlanta Hawks is when Deandre Hunter played like he did last night. The guy can kind of do it all. He got the big extension. He can switch one through five. He knocks down shots. He's getting to the free throw line. I love him. He's such a hard-working, good kid and I think he's crucial to kind of their success moving forward. They obviously have Trey. They have Dijante, John Collins, but I think the glue guy for that team is Deandre Hunter and he played really well last night. Isn't it funny? Like, I'm sure you had this when you played. There's always that team. I know back in the day for the Spurs, the Phoenix Suns, where the team, they just couldn't beat for whatever reason. Like, how does that happen, Eddie, that there's just always that one team that sticks it to him all the time? Well, there's some X's and O's things here as well. This is a heavy spread-picking role team with Atlanta and Trey loves to hold that ball. He loves to snake the screen and with the team, like the Bucks who consistently play drop with Brooke Lopez, that gives him every opportunity to be that kind of ball handler he wants to be, they played him tough two years ago in the playoffs and if Trey doesn't step on that ref, who knows how it ends up going. So, yeah, they're going to feel confident about that team. Also helps to not have your starting backcourt to play against and, you know, probably the best defender in the league against Trey, Drew. So, yeah, I mean, you know, it's not the truest representation of what these teams are, but they're definitely confident against those guys for sure. Yeah, Giannis hadn't played in a week. I mean, that's something, right? A little rest. For sure. But listen, I do think they match up well with guys like De'Andre and John Collins and these young guys like Griffin and Johnson. These guys can match up. They can switch pick and rolls. But yeah, the Bucks, listen, the Bucks and Celtics I think are at the top of the East and, you know, they're banged up right now. So, I take it with a grain of salt. I think it's great for the Hawks, but it's... I'm not... Not panicking? No, not panicking quite. No, I mean, Milwaukee's like, like Shannon said, without Chris Middleton, without Drew Holiday, like they're, they're beat up and they're, you could tell they got off to a fast start, but they are always with Mike Booneholtz are going to make sure that they take the side of caution. Not only with Chris Middleton, Drew Holiday's missed time with an ankle injury. Giannis said to Kubo missed time with me and he never wants to sit. Right. So, the fact that he was sitting makes it, makes it known that they're, they're trying to make sure they're cautious with these guys. So, I don't, I mean, you know, it's a, it's a good one for the Hawks. You know, for them, they need to build momentum. This is a team, it's a newly constructed team. They have some new guys, it's John T. Murray. So, for them to get wins like this is important. So, I love, I think a month into the season is a perfect time to predict. I think that's where we are right now. But if healthy, Celtics and Bucks, who are you taking? I got Celtics. Okay, every time. You know, I want to see the Bucks beat them. They played them close. So, like, there's a reason to feel like the Bucks are better than them. They played them close last year without Chris Middleton. So, but we're watching the Celtics get better day by day. They've been doing it all season. Jason Tatum is making a leap. He might be a top five player at this point. He's looking MVP. He's going to get MVP votes this year. So, I'm going to go to Celtics, but look, the Bucks are right there. Yeah, I like the Bucks. I think they're the team to be. I think they got the best player in the NBA. I think they got, you know, the best duo when healthy, when Middleton comes back. And they have the best defending point guard in Drew Holiday. So, I think they got it all. I think they're deep. I think they got size. They got youth. They got guys like Bobby Portis and Ben Lopez. They're stretching the floor, knocking down shots. And they have the best player in the world. They have the MVP. They have Janus. And I think they're the team that you got to go through. By the way, Janus talking about Wimbanyama is some good video. So, if you haven't seen that, Google it. Shout out Serge Bakas cooking show. I love that cooking show. It's the perfect show. Speaking of Jason Tatum, though, we'll go back to the Celtics. They had a game last night. They beat the Thunder, but we're not going to start with the actual game. Can we talk about the technical foul that might have been one of the worst calls of all time? Who thinks about this? Like, what is happening in this moment? Honestly, I think this ref is extremely embarrassed because I think watching this back, he realized that, hey, like Jason was not even talking to him, was upset with himself. This is, I swear, the weakest technical foul I've seen in my life. WKF. We saw the comment. It's not like what Jason said. Like, I don't know. You got to rescind that. You absolutely have to rescind it. I know they have like a more emphasis on, I forget what they called it, but cutting down on these, basically. Oh, come on. I'm a fan, like, you know, let him try it. Like, the ref, like, give it back to him. Like cuss back. But it's the thing about it is, is if you read this before you see the video, you think that he's doing that thing where players aggressively, sarcastically clap in your face. He's not, it's literally just like a oops. I honestly think this will be a good thing because I think now refs will be kind of on notice and will hopefully be more lenient because this is a horrible look. And like I said, this ref is thoroughly embarrassed today and realizes that that's not a technical foul. Can a ref rescind his own foul? That's a weak foul, too. That's a weak foul. Like, don't give me a tech because you blew a call and I said, yo, you blew a call. That's bad. Now I get X point. Did he even do that though? I just, I feel like, I think he said like, damn, like KD tweeted about it. But then you'll see like other guys, you'll see other guys like Draymond, they'll actually get in a rough space and they'll cut and the ref will kind of brush it off. But then you tee up him for this. Draymond rules are a different set of rules. That's ridiculous. Do we think it gets rescinded? I mean, is there, yeah, I mean, there's a process, but a technical foul like that usually typically gets rescinded. But we talked about Tony brother, I think what last week, this is like the opposite approach of Tony brother. Tony brothers would say something back. He just, oh, look at that. Like, you got players putting their two cents in. That's how bad it was. You gotta put a Chandler's comment. Yeah, he, listen, he's not lying. I swear, this is, this is, this is beyond bad. It's going to get rescinded. I mean, I hope so. I just, Tatum had no idea, too. He's like, oh, I wonder why that whistle blew. And then when he realized it was for him, he was confused. It made no sense to me, but it, it made for good conversation and great video because we were all left confused by the entire thing. Do you want to talk about the, one of the guys they played against, Mr. Gilgis, Alexander? It's just one of the longest greatest names of all time. 37 points. I keep reading so much about him possibly being on the training block, which I do not understand. But as far as NBA scorers are concerned, where do you put him? I mean, he's, he, the kid's a killer. He is going. He is absolutely getting buck. It's, he's getting double team and still putting up numbers. He's doing exactly what we talked about yesterday. He's almost playing too good for the situation there. And, and you know, Presti's wondering, you know, what he could get for him. How many picks could he get for his kid? Picks is one team need. That's, and, and that's the thing. I mean, she goes out again is what 24 years old. So he's not, he's one of the older guys on that team, but he fits right into that structure. So that's why the sense I've always got is they want to continue to build around him. That's the guy, even though you have teams like the Lakers, the Knicks, the Raptors, you see a different team rumored every week. It seems like, but that's a guy that you want to keep. They have the draft picks. It's like, what are you going to trade another one of your top players and get even more draft? They have enough draft picks last in the decade, right? And I don't understand. Like you have this player right now is 24. The draft pick might get as good as him, but probably not. So, and this kid's not like he's 30, 34. This guy's getting giddy. Like that's a back court you can build around. And if Chet comes back, he's healthy. Right. And who knows? You get the number one pick. You get Victor. Imagine a front court of Victor and Chet. And then you have those two guys in their back court. Now you're really building something. And those guys need someone like SGA. They need that floor general. They need that go to score. Those kids, they're very good. But I don't think they're going to come in the league average in 25, 30 points. You just don't know you need this on this team. Eight assists last night as well. You know, we talk about all the younger guards we have in the league, John Morant, Trey, Darius Garland. He's there with those guys. He's just as talented. He's proven it in the playoffs when he was with the Clippers. He's proven it in the playoffs when he was with the Thunder as well in the bubble. He's talented, man. And it's like, yeah, as NBA fans are like, yo, we think they're tanking. You trade out of that guy and you get rid of that contract. That contract's going to get better as the years go on and the cap goes up. You got to hold on to that piece and try to build around. You got to pay someone, right? I mean, well, that's the thing. The total salary floor. Like he had a moment last night, which I'm sure he's very proud of. And everyone who loves him is very proud of just breaking ankles is the name of the game. Oh, good. No, I mean, there's more than ankles. There's like a lot going on there. But I wonder this is my question. Number one, he is young and he probably hears some of the noise about is he on the training block? Is he not on the training block? What does that do to a kid mentally? And secondly, are we only talking about trading because it's Oklahoma City? And we've all just grown accustomed to them just collecting, I guess, draft picks instead of building. That's how it works, right? In those smaller markets. Yeah. Whether you're talking about New Orleans with Anthony Davis, Shay Gildes with Oklahoma City, it's like these guys, for whatever reason, they prominently be described, you know, on social media. I don't care from Chandler's perspective. Like being a player, if you were in SGA's position and you're playing in Oklahoma City, you're on a full max contract, you like it there. From all, by all accounts, he does like it there. The organization wants you there. Like how are you, is it outside pressure? Like what leads you to? Yeah, I think it goes both ways. I think he loves being the man on this team. I think he loves kind of helping the development of these young guys. And he sees the potential. He sees the future with Chet coming back. He sees Josh Gidee as a Hooper. And he sees this guy in France that could really help his team next year. But then, yeah, he also sees a big market. And he knows he's becoming this star that is an elite player. And he wants the recognition of a Brooklyn net, of a Los Angeles Laker. And you don't necessarily... God, does he know? Look at them. But you don't necessarily get that love and that attention. We talk about Ben Simmons. Him and Ben Simmons kind of need to switch situations. He needs to be in like a small market. And this kid's too good to be in the small market. He needs to go to a big market. Can we make that happen? Don't tease me, Tamly. Don't cheat. For the thunder, this is the point of hoarding all these assets. You get a guy like Chet, right? You build around that. You have him on a contract that makes sense. He's the prize of the Paul George trade. You don't just then ship that off two years later and say... More draft picks, yeah. For something that he'll become maybe as good as him. It's like the price of dealing. I remember when Kauai was up. And it was like, I won't give up picks for Kauai. Yo, what is the chance of that pick one day ends up maybe as good as Kauai? You know what you have right now. You give up the picks. Are we taking the mystery box or are we taking the car? I think it's the gamble. I see the car. We're doing the Peter Griffin thing. Maybe there's a car in here. No, there's a car. It's right there. But this is the point of gathering all these assets is to eventually have players that are as good as Shagill, just Alexander. I think Pressie, I mean, look, he's done a good job. But I think that he's sort of brought this assumption on himself because we're so used to him doing these moves for that. But building around him seems like the whole end game and the whole purpose of having done this in the first place. But it's OKC and you're right. I didn't think about the idea from his perspective. Does he want to stay there? The small markets. But then look at, look, San Antonio Spurs. Like that's a small market. And for a long time they were it. So it's possible. Just take a minute. That was my awful, awful segue into another game that happened last night. All right. The Warriors beat the Spurs. And beating them is probably not even the correct word. They just annihilated them. Jordan Poole got the start. 36 on bobblehead night. Should he be starting? Period. I mean, listen, this was a key game for a team that's been struggling where they plays out, they put this kid in and he absolutely balls out and has the best game of the season so far. I love him off the bench. I love that power. I love the offense going through him. But yeah, I think as we continue to go on and if Clay continues to struggle, why not? It worked last night. They blasted them. Obviously it's a tanking team there. No, it's not, Tim. Yeah, I mean, this is the story last night. This kid absolutely took advantage of being in the starting lineup last night. And I don't see them winning how they did last night and then changing it. I would stick with it. It's no coincidence. His absolute best game of the season is also the words. Absolute best game of the season. 36 points. He shot. He shot the hell out of the ball. Even, you know, step only hit 16. He was able to play the background and watch as it happens. It also helps that the Anthony Lam came off the bench. It made six out of seven and, you know, we're seeing the transition of this team. Right. Whether Clay likes it or not, it is what it is. Now, is he willing to accept the role off the bench? Who knows. I think so, right? I still think there's value to Poole coming off the bench and guiding second units and being that guy. He's going to have to find his rhythm in doing that as well. Kerr has shown reluctance throughout the years to put young guys in over his vets, over the guys he's been to war with. I don't think it's changing. Really? I obviously think if Poole can channel this off the bench, same amount of, I mean, 29 minutes, he can get that off the bench still. They can play lineups where he can still get 29 minutes. That's probably where they make it work and maximize themselves. Yeah. I'm not sure what Steve Kerr's going to decide, but it was interesting after the game. He said that Jordan Poole, the team played best and he played, Jordan Poole played best when he was starting next to Steph, just because they're able to bounce off each other, you know, and that it's not the same effect when he comes off the bench. It was interesting he said that. But Clay Thompson, like Eddie said, that's the guy that they've gone, he's going to war with. Like they've played in high level games. I would be somewhat surprised if he just put Clay off the bench. But I mean, this is a team that's clearly going through stuff. They're going to have to figure it out. A lot of it is going to have to come internally. Like if Clay Thompson steps up and says, I'm coming off the bench, it makes it a little easier. Doesn't he strike you as the kind of guy that would do that? You know, but he, you know, that's a level of stature as well. You know, like he's been there for a long time. It's a, it's, it's a very tough. Yeah, there's still a level of respect and what have I done for you. But it's tough, man, because like, like Sean just said, having Jordan Poole and Steph Curry on the court, and if they're both going, this is a, this is a tough team, man. They're hard to beat. And I don't know if Clay can, can put up many nights like Jordan Poole did last night. Anyways, so it's, it's tough. But it's, yeah, Steve Kerr is a big decision. And we've also entered the, the play. And here's, here's Kerr, by the way. Game is easier when he starts, but that he's not considering a lineup change. Although, you know, you could say anything. That's kind of him saying he's better starting. So eventually he's going to start, right? He'll pass to. They dealt with a little bit of this in the playoffs with Jordan struggling on defense, but also Clay struggling on defense and just trying to figure out, you know, should we maximize offense? Should we, you know, should we do what is best for us? They both struggled terribly against the Grizzlies and then the start against the Celtics. They turned it around, obviously won the title. But yeah, there's a little bit to, to figure out there. And maybe this year isn't the year. I also think people are overestimating Clay's kind of just chill mode, just accepting of everything. Yeah. I don't, I don't think. Was that directed at me? Because I feel like you're like Michelle, he's not that chill. You threw it out there. I'm just saying, you know. The man lives on a boat for God's sakes. But what do you want? I think people are overestimating his willingness to just accept a lesser role and lesser money. People think he's just going to come back in two years for a smaller contract to keep the gang together. Why, why, why do we think that? He maximized last year. This is the player that when Kevin Durant came, said, I'm not sacrificing nothing and then didn't shot the ball more. So I don't see that. I don't see that going as seamlessly as everybody thinks. Yeah. In no way shape or form she's going to throw in the towel. And but I think that he sees where this team is going. He sees, let's next year, just Clay Thompson starting on the word. So I think he sees the direction it's going. He sees him getting the bag. He sees kind of Wiggins and him being the focal point going forward with Steph and him and Draymond kind of taking that back seat. But I think he's starting to realize physically and mentally that his career is kind of declining. And this kid's on the rise. So it's tough. But yeah, I don't think he's just going to be thrilled, but I don't think he's going to go to Steve Kerr's office today and say, you know what, I think I should come off the bench. I think I should come off the bench. No chance. I mean, he's entered the sort of tweeting thing about it to that sort of cryptic, passive aggressive, I'm coming back, those kinds of things. I feel like when you enter that phase, all of LeBron James, excuse me, that's sort of like, you know, but that wasn't the, I wouldn't say that was the biggest thing that came out of the game last night. It was the James Wiseman news from yesterday, going to the G-League for a period of time that we're not even sure about, by the way. I guess we have no idea. They want him to play five, you know, multiple, multiple games down there. Like they want him to spend, Steve Kerr said last night at least 10 games. He played well in preseason and just statistically, the plus minus, the numbers when he's on the floor with Steph, where Steph is one of the easiest guys to play with. He makes everyone around him better. Obviously one of the landmark players in league history. Those two guys have not played well together at all. All their numbers are significantly lower when they're on the floor. So if you're not playing well with Steph Kerr, you're not going to be playing much for the Warriors. And yeah, he's going to spend some time in the G-League. They're going to play a lot with your Michael Green at the back of five, you know, backing up. Come on, Looney. So he's got to get reps down there. And I think this will ultimately be good for him because he needs to go down there. He needs to get reps. He needs to play and he needs to go and dominate and show Steve Kerr, show the Warriors like, look, I'm ready. I can help this team contend to win a championship this year. He just hasn't come along as quick or as good as I think I would see. Why not though? It's tough because his situation, he's basically a lob threat, pick and roll, you know. It should be working. The floor is spaced. He's surrounded by shooters and scores. He's got a playmaking floor that's kind of breaking him off or getting out on the break. I don't know because it seems on paper to be a perfect fit, like personnel wise. So I hope he just goes down there and he takes his personal and he used this as motivation and dominates the G-League and then comes right back and there's a key factor going forward because he should be. The Warriors operate like a football team. We have a system. You either fit it or you don't. We'll move on from you. Kelly Ubrey, you didn't fit. We'll move on from you. And on and on and on. So they're bigs. They're out there to set screens. They're out there to rebound. They're out there to kick the ball up the drain on to get it. They're not out there to post up, catch, turn, pivot, middle, and throw a hook shot up. That's not the role they want him to play. It's crazy looking back. The two guys he got picked between. Anthony Edwards. And Lamello Paul. You know, what do those guys do for their team right now? We're talking about the guard position, the wings, and how they can add there. They passed up Lamello. A lot of people wondered why. And you know, this isn't his skillset what he's doing. His body language is terrible. He's supposed to be setting screens and they got stats now. So he's like one of the worst screeners in the league. And it's just not the optimum situation for him. And yeah, maybe in the G-League, he gets screwed back. He comes back a little happier and understands what he's going for. Does he come back happier? Or is this like a mental thing? A guy like this, this could piss him off and offend him to make him even go more into a shell. Kevin Looney will be starting the rest of these games this season no matter what James Weissman does in the G-League. Look, how many times have we also seen it on paper? It seems like such a great idea. It just doesn't work in real life. Whether it's a chemistry thing or a fit thing. I mean, I feel like there's a good chance. And then maybe they get pieces for him or they decide to move him at some point if they can. They want him to pan out though. They want him to take Kevin Looney's role. I mean, yeah. And that's why you dropped to number two. But listen, that debate of him, Lamello, I mean, it's probably going to exist for a little bit of time. He's a talented guy. This is by far the number one consensus player in his high school class. And then going into college before he missed all his games, it was like, yo, he'll go number one. We love Ant. We love Lamello. He'll go number one. And then things obviously happen. He missed most of his season and all that. And there's talent there. But a lot of pressure, too. A lot of pressure. And he's dealt with his injuries, you know? If you can't make it work with him in Golden State. So I'm saying you should feel zero pressure on this team and this franchise, this roster. He just needs to go out there, play hard, not be embarrassed by this demotion and take it as motivation. Stop trying to sell it like it's not a demotion. Most kids, when they make most kids like this, yeah, they hate it. They're embarrassed. They're embarrassed to tell their friends. They think it's a bad thing when really in the long big picture, this could help him mightily. Yeah, make no mistake. He's been benched. And now he's been relegated. But it's worse to go to the G League than getting benched in the NBA for these kids. Yeah, and you've been both now. So that's tough. That hurts. No more words. It's painful to watch. We are going to take a quick break when we come back. The latest on Trey Young and why it's the number 30. That is the magic number in this great, great league. We run it back. Returns. Team Sacramento, you know what? I give credit to whoever thought of just a way to sort of get the fans, get the team to buy in on this. And they have been, and it's every time they win, that beam gets lit. Still not making me move to Sacramento, but I do appreciate the effort. That being said, we're going to do a little you buy in that. OK, I think you can figure out what that means. We've got some ideas here, some actual facts. Eight players right now. Eight players are averaging over 30 points a game. Are you buying Chandler that that can continue? I don't think so. I don't think for the rest of the season, I think teams are going to start wanting a more balanced attack. You know, teams that are seeing like the Warriors and the Celtics last year in the finals and how balanced and how deep. I think it's hard to sustain this. And you look at the guys that are averaging 30. Donovan Mitchell is one of them. Garland's been out most of the year. Giannis is one of them. Middleton's been out all year long. Shay, you would assume is not going to continue at this clip. I expected to go down a little bit with just guys getting, teams getting healthy and guys returning. But it's fun to watch and the usage rate is crazy. But like I said, I think teams would prefer to be more balanced than these one man shows. Because in the playoffs, that's very hard to do. But you're right. As a fan watching that, it's fun. Yeah, it's a video game. It's like a star. Right. And you do pay to see the stars. I know that's not the common what you're supposed to say out loud, but that's fine. How about Trey Young? Yeah, I really want things to get better. He's enduring the worst true shooting stretch of his career. Eddie, shooting struggles. Are you buying them lasting? Yeah. I mean, maybe not this bad, the worst of his career. But you know, kind of the dirty secret on Trey is he's not a great shooter. He gets the Steph comp because of the type of shots he takes and his range. He can hit these shots, but the actual, him actually hitting them doesn't always add up to, look, Steph Curry is, he's the true shooting God. Like he's the greatest shooter of all time. So to compare him to that and then go out there and do that, it's almost disrespectful. But yes, Trey can make these shots. He doesn't make them as often as he does. He takes bad shots all the time. It feels like a lot of these shots are off the dribble. We were talking about it yesterday when we were having dinner. It's tough playing with a guy like this who, yo, a couple times a quarter, I'm just going to watch him dribble for 20 seconds and shoot from the logo and then run down there and defend his guy. So it's tough. And it's not like the jante provides spacing to get better shots. I think the idea and the dream for a guy like him and Luca is, yo, we'll get this ball handler and he'll get some shots off the, off the catch. And it almost never materializes. So I'm buying him struggling a little bit because this is kind of the shooter he is. It'll get higher than this, but not too much. How much of it is though that like the system in Atlanta is Trey where like the Warriors, I guess the system is Steph. But there's a, you know, even when Steph's out of the line of like they have a way in a playing style. Like how much is that a thing? Yeah, I think it's, I think it's big. And I think it's him, he's talented enough to kind of do both to get guys more involved. He doesn't have to take these video games, Steph Curry, four shots. He doesn't have to, because that is deflating as a teammate. You play defense hard for 24 seconds. You get a stop, you get out there and having a dude pull from 30 feet within the first five seconds of the shot clock. It's miserable. And then when you have nights where he's just kind of going to get his own and as the point guard, he's supposed to be getting everybody involved. It's tough. I have a question. I mean, obviously to play in any league, you have to have the utmost confidence. But does a guy like Trey in his mind see himself as an equal to Steph Curry? Yeah, listen, he's not lacking confidence. I play with him in Atlanta. And he's actually, he's a great kid. He's a great dude. And yeah, he believes he's the best point guard in the NBA. He thinks he's a better shooter than Steph Curry. He has this chip on his shoulder. That most little guys do, by the way. Little guys. And he thinks he's that guy. And most nights in his whole life and in Oklahoma, like he's been that guy. I just think he has to have an understanding that as a point guard, and with the talented roster he has, he's got to be able to get guys involved as much as just getting himself involved every night. Because I think that's going to do the hawks wonders in the long run. Yeah, if you follow his dad on Twitter, they absolutely think he's the best player in the league. Okay, but there's nothing worse than a parent who lies. Love his dad. Like, I just can't. But I think Chandler makes a great point. To me, Trey's gift is his playmaking. If you watch him operate the pick and roll in the way he's able to drop slip passes or fine guys on the wings. To me, that's his gift, not shooting. As crazy as it sounds. Yeah, right? So yeah, if he pushed more into that roll, I think it would benefit the team more as a whole. But this is the style of all now. If you're the star, you're going to dribble it for 20 seconds and shoot whatever shot you want. That's not fun to watch. And his vision is nuts. It's incredible. The way he can create, the way he can hold you off in the pick and roll is, you know, you can see his arrogance and his cockiness with the MSG. I mean, that was great. Yeah. He loves that, though. He embraced that villain roll, and he wants all the smoke. That was one of the best moments. All right, Sacramento Kings, we started with the beam of victory. They are on a three-game winning streak, sitting at six and six. I think it was six of eight. I mean, it's, are you buying them as a play-in team? Yeah, or more. What? Listen, I think the record should be better than it is, too, with the Tyler Hero travel call, the no-call at the end of the game on Herder with Clay Thompson. These guys are in a very good spot, right? And they have a very good team. They have two good players. So, bonus has been absolutely balling lately. I saw a stat where De'Aaron Fox leads the NBA and clutch points, like his shooting numbers are insane. And they got a little squad over there with Mitchell, with Keegan Murray, with Harrison Barnes. They kind of have that balance attack with their two main guys. And I really like what they're doing. And this is a team that, like, if they catch fire, I don't want to see them, like, in the first round of the playoffs. Tristan, I love that team. Baby bonus, my guy. He has 23 rebounds the other day. And, like you mentioned, De'Aaron is just clutch. He's been clutch his whole career. They just don't win a ton of games. Right, we never saw it. And so he's, we mentioned those guards earlier, like Shea. He's of that cloth. He's that great. He was that high of a draft pick as well. Lefty, just quick as, might be the quickest guy in the league. His jumper has gotten better slowly as his career has gone on. He's great. I love what they're building over there. They finally had the longest playoff drought in sports. So they finally are looking on the cusp. They're in position. They're in position. And Fox is in better shape this year. He came to camp. And you can just see, he looks like the guy we saw a couple of seasons ago, where we thought he was on the cusp of being all-star. But it's interesting with the Kings. They usually get off to slow starts, or they get off to good starts, and then they completely fall off a cliff. This year, they got off, I think, 0-3, 0-4. And they won six of eight. They're playing great basketball right now. Listen to these last six numbers of Savonis on my laptop here. 26, 22, and 8. 21, 10, and 6. 21, 5, and 6. 19, 14, 6. 25, 11. Like, this guy is going right now. And they're making the game easy for each other. They're having fun. And like, yeah. Listen, this team is an embarrassing franchise that wants badly to get back to the playoff. They run their offense through him. And he's looking like his pops. He's looking like, you know, the race. They've actually like built a team there now. Like, you have multiple guys. They have young guys now, too. And in terms of Keegan Murray, Davion Mitchell. Kevin Herter is basically like a mix of vet, young. Like, they're building a real team there. Mike Brown, like, you have to give him kind of everywhere he goes. He has at least some level of good success, whether it's Cleveland, the Lakers. So he's doing a good job so far. The culture. He builds the culture, which I know it's such a- They were real coach fun. Yeah, right? It's like, it's a thing. We're going to move to the spurs for a second here. Kelton Johnson has got a career high, almost 23 points a game. Eddie, are you buying him as the spurs' top scoring option? Somebody has to do it, right? That's the worst answer ever. Why not the Olympian? He really improved his jumper. Why not the gold medalist? But no, he has improved. And you can tell that summer- Drop some LVs. That summer dealing with the big fellas on the Team USA has benefited him. He's in better shape. He's a versatile scorer. I love what he's doing out there. I love these uniforms as well, as we said yesterday. Yeah, we do. So no, I mean, look, this is a great role for him to further develop into a better player. And maybe he's not the centerpiece of what this team eventually ends up being, but this is only going to help him get better in the long run and the team as well. Maybe next year, when he's going to win Mignana or school, he's a perfect compliment. Seems like a good idea. Scoot Henderson, baby. Let's get Scoot out there. He's not getting enough love, either, because that kid is a monster. Hooper. He's a monster. You know what? It could be a good thing, because he'll wear that as a chip on his shoulder. He's having to hear about this other guy this entire time. How about Memphis? Got Jaumarant, Desmond Bain. The third highest scoring duo in the league. You bind them as a top five duo, Chandler? I didn't check your laptop. Make sure. Top five is tough, honestly. Oh, really? Desmond Bain, listen. He's had a great start. He's had a good season and a half. He's an unbelievable shooter, but you're looking at guys like Tatum and Brown and Bede and James, Middleton and Giannis. We have even talked like Kyrie and KD who could never figure it out. Oh, that's never happened. With Braun and Ad. Listen, they are right there on the cusp, but... Did you say LeBron and Ad? Jared Jackson was their second best player until he went down, and kind of Bain has now been thrown into this role, and he's taken full advantage of it. And he's fun to watch, and he's taken over in the fourth quarters, and he's having a very, very, very good season so far. But to give him top five already is a stretch for me, but he's close. Does it? I feel like it's doable. It sounds crazy. I mean, it does sound crazy. They are that good. Ja is that good. Right. That's what I think elevates it. Look, we respect the veterans, the guys that have been doing this for years, but at some point we can't ignore the results we're seeing from them, and they're a good compliment, which I think works best for them. Is it because Bain's not a, quote, household name? Not yet. Like, just don't look at him that way? He's in a small market, and I honestly think Jared Jackson, coming back will even make him even better. Having that threat inside is only going to make this duo better. Desmond Bain, drop the arms routine. This is the best arms in the league. I have burned. One of the best names in sports, Bain. He does it. Washington Wizards. I mean, I feel like we don't talk about them a lot enough, perhaps, because they've won four straight. Eddie, you buying them as a top four Eastern Conference team. They've done this without Beal, too. Yeah. They're right on the cusp. Top four. Top four. I know. Chandler's real stuck on, like, the top four, though. It's tough. They're right on the cusp. I'm going to say I'm not completely buying it, because... Boston, Milwaukee. Boston, Milwaukee. Cleveland, Atlanta. Atlanta. Okay. Toronto. They're going to be in the play-in, though, for sure. But look, they're eight and six. They're not... It's not like they're world beaters right now, but they do have something in KP and COOS and having these bigs that can stretch. KP was, I guess, a victim of the Luca system. We didn't see his entire versatility. People were wondering if he could post up what he could do, but he's a shot blocker. He could drive to the rim. He can handle a little bit, and he's like prototypical stretch five. It's kind of crazy to work with Luca, but it's because Luca requires such a very specific guy out there for that role. But Kuzma, he's been a revelation. And like Sam said, they're doing this without Brad. Brad comes back, hopefully adds to that. They're a solid team. They got a lot to like over there. But we're just not ready for top four. I'll give you that. No, I mean, it's a due conference. Yeah, it's very, very, very. You know, the Nets are lurking. You know, they're... Stop it. LeBron wants to be a better flopper. Who doesn't? And one-on-one over times, NFL-style dunk celebrations when we come back. And on the other end, how would you rate your defense tonight? You tell me, man. I'm gonna know something about you. What? How would you rate my defense tonight? Be honest. There's no wrong answers. Be honest. Be honest? I can accept that. I can accept. We got the win. I can accept that. I appreciate your honesty. That is the perfect way to handle anything in the world. Yeah, that, of course, is on Williamson. Turning the tables on media. I like it. The B-minus was like... B-minus. Generous. Generous grade, too, by the way. That crossover Jeremy Graham had on? Yeah. Oh, man. That's the best, though. When you don't feel like answering a question or maybe you don't have an answer, just turn it around. It's classic media training. Well done. That was hilarious. What do you think? What do you think? What do you think? You tell me. Which is leading us to our... Wait, what? Because we're gonna have some sound here, some various players saying various words, and we need to figure out what's going on. So first up, LeBron. This is what he had to say, following the loss to the Clippers. I looked at a lot of guys tonight. Shoot a lot of jump shots, and they're going nine, 13 times to the free-to-line. I got to learn how to flop or something. Seriously, I need to learn how to do that, swipe my head back, or do something to get to the free-to-line. Because I missed it. It's getting a little... It's getting too repetitive. It's three games straight. You played against LeBron. We haven't... Ha. Here's my... Chaylor, take it away. Here's my thing. Learn how to flop. This man flops. Right. He is... What? So you feel like he does an abelish? That was a crazy comment, because he's low-key known for kind of flopping, and he's physical, and he's strong, and he is an absolute specimen, but start flopping is a little nuts to me. Eddie likes that one. Eddie, you're being very... It's like Einstein saying... I need to learn how to do multiplication. You know it. He's flopping. He's grabbing his face. He's looking at the refs. So dramatic. Quite often. Right. So to tell you the idea of start flopping is funny to me. LeBron invented the roll on the floor. Right. For three minutes to hope to get a review. I love LeBron. I think he's the goat. But like, you have learned how to flop. Give yourself some credit, big fella. You got it. Give yourself some credit. And please, don't do it more. Like, you're right. We don't want more of it. No, no, neither. It's not fun to watch, but that was a good one. There's a... The Lakers gave us a couple good gems. Thank you. Because Pat Beverly's up next. And this is him on why the Lakers beat the Nets. What was the key to the defense side of the ball? The board. Me guard KD. You always like that, right? I mean, I didn't see that. Yeah, that was the key from the beginning. Love that. I set the tone, team responded. Okay, before we can get to the comment, where are we on designer head-to-toe logo? Yay or nay? Because I feel like it was a lot. Throw in the track jacket on top of the designer. Like, yo, that's a little... That's a lot of dure, but well done. Okay, so, yes. Did he shut down KD? Look, man, sources say Pat was the friendliest guy possible on the court. And I was close enough, not bragging at all. Yeah, you were bragging, right? I was close enough to hear him yelling for the help every time Kevin caught the ball. So, yeah, set the tone, I guess, with the double teams. There you go, Pat. Good job, bro. Here's the other thing. When you know the double teams coming, you can press up, you can pick up 94 feet, you can do all the hoot and holler and you want because you know when this man catches the ball, there's like a 6'8 guy coming to the rescue. So, this is... But this is his value. He barks, he gets the team going, he's aggressive. He's a WWE character. He gets under your skin, yeah. He's good at it. He's... This is what his value is to this team. And... Well, I think Pat's... He talks a lot of things, you know, out there. So many things. So, so, so, so, so... He says it so nice. So many things? So, so, so what? So, when you speak, you know, sometimes I feel like he's trying to convince himself. And I think when you watch that, that's his talent. That's what he's doing. He's speaking to existence. But even more than that, I think he's trying to convince the audience. So, I think, shout out. I didn't do a good job. I'll say that, but look, Chandler, if me and Shoms could double-team you and foul you all we want, we'd do a decent job too. Right? And if Shoms is guarding me and I see you coming, yeah, he could talk all the shit he wants. He could get in my face. He could get under me. He could foul me because I know I have help coming. This man cannot guard Kevin Durant one-on-one. Nobody can. Kevin had 31 points this game. He also had a response. He also had a response. 50% shooting. Lock him up. He always has a response. Kevin, yes. Somebody, uh, I mean. Kevin, brother, just to the point. Yes, he is. Oh, I love it. God, he's like, reads the comments, then he responds to the comments, to the original comments. It's very, it's devoted. I might have sent him that one. I might have had to let him know about that one. He's devoted on that one. What is K.D. average this year? 31. And what do you have against Patrick Brown? 31. Yeah, wait a lock him up. There you go. All right, fair enough. Wizards beat Dallas and Kyle Kuzma had some words after that. Luke has been on a tear this year. How'd you guys hold an 8 for 21 with five turnovers? We just did a good job. We know that, you know, their team is very limited outside of him. Great Balenciaga glasses, by the way. Could you rock those? No. Inside? You're like L.A. guy, though. Yeah, but indoors, dude? It's tough. No. Chandler's more classy. Yeah, he's classy. Chandler's got a black suit on. Right. He'll do that frame, but no rhinestones. I got you. By the way, he was so distracting. I don't even know what he said. What's your wrong? Well, by the way, he's not wrong. His outfit's ridiculous. But he's not wrong. The Mavs are getting so predictable that they have this man doing everything. And it's going to get frustrated for Luca. And they need guys like Reggie Bullock. They need guys like Dorian Finismith. They need these roll guys. Every time I look at a Mavs box score, it's Luca with 35. Spencer Denwood, he might throw in. And then everyone else in single-digit scoring. That's, to me, not a recipe for success. No, he's right. I mean, players in the league will tell you. The blueprint for them isn't tough. We know our scheme going in. We're staying home on our shoes or whatever. And actually going out there and doing it and having the legs to do that all night is different. But yeah, I mean, he didn't lie at all. We all know that about the Mavs. Again, in the playoffs, too, they are going to do what the Lakers did to KDV our night. As soon as he crosses half court, he's getting doubles. And he's making these other guys beat you, which is... Also, if he does this all season long, the health thing, I think, is going to be a huge issue. You have a backup plan or something. Javon Carter had 36 points against Oklahoma City, and then words. 36 points of the results, 12 assists. At what point did you know you just had it and you had to keep going? When I woke up. This morning, what'd you think? Let's get it. Pomeran Nets legend. That's so good. That's a legend. Son's legend. Right, that happens, right? You wake up in the morning and you're like, this is the day I die. By the way, I had him at Memphis. He was a rookie. And he's Patrick Beverly, 2.0. He's this defensive player. He's a defensive player of the year, I think a couple of times, it was Virginia. And he's created this whole persona where that's his game, that's his confidence. He gets squirtled, damn. It's tough. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's true. He gets squirtled. Oh, no, Pat's ever had 30 points. Yeah, it's true. Oh, no, Pat's ever had 36. I love Giovanni, where it's two different shoes. Not like, you know, a red one and a blue one. A Kobe six and a Kobe five. It's insanity. Like, I can't, I don't understand. Is there a good reason or just to be different? You know, with the ask, I mean, he woke up and he felt like that guy, I guess. I mean, that's what I have going on. Okay, fair enough. It's a great answer. It's a perfect answer. We'll do a little convince me right now. You know, the drill, some of these are easier to convince than others, Chandler. We'll start with you. Okay. To prevent tanking, one lottery team each season should randomly select to lose their draft pick. They should be selected to do that to sort of incentivize not sucking. Risk tanking. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, can you imagine if you suck all year long and you do not get to get your pick? And like, especially with this year, with Victor coming into it, that would be tough. And so I think it would be interesting. It kind of levels the playing field. It keeps everybody competing. But still, like, it's one team out of 14. Like, I would still probably tank and not truck. You're like the odds. I like my odds still not losing the pick until it happens. And I lose the French kid that I'm pissed. But yeah, I mean, it wouldn't even the playing field a little bit. And I think it would just kind of get these teams going for the play-in now, at least, which is happening already this year with some of these teams that are accidentally winning. Accidentally? Yeah, that's you, right? Yeah, exactly. More than should be. Yeah, it's a little Russian roulette with the draft picks. I don't know if I want to risk it. One in 14. Eddie convinced me that every team should designate one starter per game that's miked up. Yo, if I'm commisioning to NBA, I'm making one sweeping change immediately. I'm miking everybody. And I'm charging. And I'm doing like a special league pass. You can get this feed for like $2,000 a year. That's a great idea. I pay it immediately. Comes with a disclaimer. These guys are cussing all night, like you noticed. But I need that feed. Don't know commentators. Give me LeBron yelling at the refs because he flopped. Like, give me all that. You're going to have to get good, really tiny little whites. Where are we on that, Shom? I'll take it to the literal. Yeah, I'll take it to the literal. The PA, not agreeing to that. Yo, come on, guys. Sorry, I'm on the blunt. You could price that at whatever. Give it to the PA, like. That's true. I'd pay whatever. All right, baby. I actually wanted this in Formula One. I want all the radios to be public, and I would pay extra to hear that. Extra. Because that's the juice. There is no price that would make me bark at that. I'm like, yo, can you do it and pay me until you put it on my bill? I'll take it. I need it. A monthly installment. All right, let's do it. Chandler, again, these are big changes. Overtime games should be settled by a one-on-one contest featuring each team's best player. Yeah, I think this would actually be kind of interesting. Like, imagine if Memphis plays Philly and Joellen B has to play John Ryan 101. Or if vice versa. That's tough. Come on, man. We got him. We got him. We got him, sir, sir. Steve Adams. Where are we on that? Well, Steven Adams on one hand. He's Adams on one hand. What if the other team gets to pick someone on the opposing team to play one-on-one? Wait, so the two worst people are going to win? Yeah, whoever they want. Or like, you know, it's like a coin flip, and you have to see who you pick first, and you can match up accordingly. I don't hate it. Yeah, it's not bad. I do not hate it. I think it'd be fun. Fans listen. They watch team five-on-five all the time, throwing someone on one and overtime. You could do a double overtime. How about that? You get one overtime, like soccer. You have a chance to figure it out, and if you don't have to figure it out, then we go to play. And then you play one-on-one. I think that has more legs in it. We'll see what you get on that. We've got until tomorrow. Let's see if the PA was on that one. She's done it out there. Let's see what they think. Eddie, convince me that NBA players should celebrate after in-game dunks the same way the NFL dudes do. They don't do this already? I mean, they're not choreographed. I need them celebrating like the defense does. You know when they get like a pick six, and they all run into the whole team? Let's do that. Yo, some of this earlier with the text. Yeah. Please just let these guys do nothing. You got a time for doing this. Imagine if someone started moonwalking or something. Or brought out a prop or something. Yeah, they're doing the guinea down the court after they get to dunk. Like, look, I'm all for whatever makes the game fun. Let these guys be bashful. Let them do all the stuff they want to do. You can't even slam the ball. Like, you can't even do that. You can't even stand up on the bench no more and say, good job, my teammate. You know, so it's like. Good job. Good job, my teammate. Doc Fon's delay, second delay game for getting out of the coaches box. You know, I was in the arena. In the middle of a possession. In the middle of a possession, the rest stops the game because he's like a foot out of the coaches box. The rest see so much, like, how are you even making attention to that? Like the players, yeah. Let's play the game. We're going to take a quick break. When we come back, some of the best pregame outfits. I mean, I feel like we've already seen two. That's when to run it back. Returns. Okay. Tank tops with nothing underneath. In real life, I don't know. I have a rule against that. Just like two first names, but that's all right. We'll get there. Eddie's looking at it like, yeah, all right. The tie in the sweater on like. That was the problem. Very third grade. Very third grade. I just did that yesterday. But whatever, judge. Bitter break time, guys. It is, yes, it is my favorite part because we are giving gifts every single game day in this beautiful league. And so we start with. Wow, how do you even see through that? No, bro. This makes me feel so like not with it and older because this just, I'd be terrified if I saw him on the street. Right? Yeah. Like this just is not it. Are the, I'm assuming you can see through the little, is that? Yeah, I would. Why are we doing this? Mandalorian is the good call. I would hope he can see. This looks like, what is that game? I forget what it's called. Fall off like one of them games. It's a good game. Yeah, it's a good game. But look. I think it looks like some weird sex stuff. I don't like it. Is that too early in the morning? Not for me. I showed you my bed. Now you're talking about this. For God's sake. It's taking a turn. Guys, it's like 8 a.m. We're not laughing at the green soxing of, like he really put thought into the site. This is a lot. So you have to say it's a break. Is that? Yeah, that's, oh yeah, right. It is a break. She kills it, 99% of the time. But that's like, all right, bro. Can we get some Nick Clarks then? Because now I mean, you can't get worse. Can it get worse? It could get worse. Could not. Was this the other night in LA? Yes. Nick came to LA with his, what is, what is it, ready? Wow. The Canadian cutoff tuxedo. Yeah, very 80s, very, uh, like, I don't even. Big shoulders on that. He told me after the game, because I was asking him, y'all, is your eye okay? He's like, yeah. And he's, and he's like, and I put it on though, right? And he still knows outfit. I'm like, I'm like, all right, Nick. Yes? Enjoy your night, bro. They are skinny jeans. They are very, very skinny jeans. Nick hanging on to the skinny jeans. The baggy is back and he's hanging on to the skinny. Oh, two skinnies. We got another guy. I would say I like this one. You do? I will look, compared to the, the problem is we go from whatever that first thing was to this, which, you know, okay, uh, I'm sorry. Is he hiding two children underneath his coat? And splendor gadget? What is this? This is like, see, I like this more than the first two. This is, uh- It doesn't fit well though, right? No, it's, yeah, the pants are a little- This is like a catch me if you can. Yeah. It's like Mr. Gadget, you know? It's like Mr. Gadget though, for sure. Yeah, like, it's, I think I would know. Is that two people on top of each other's shoulders? That's what it looks like, like kids trying to sneak in or something. That's interesting. Like, that's a good- That's a good rock bed. I would rock it before I'd rock the cut-off, then I'm with no shirt underneath. I mean, I technically have a coat that looks like that. Yeah, exactly. But, you know, it's- And you probably have some black pants. I'm sure you have something like that. Oh my gosh. All right, that's going to do it for us on a Tuesday, but the good news for everyone, we'll be back tomorrow, guys. Channel's going to be wearing that jacket. The laptop. It's very sharp. It's killing it. Yeah, we should actually- And I'm bringing a laptop tomorrow.