 How did, how does two boys from Luton become two of the biggest names in the UK? One, two, three, it went worldwide, most good, good, manly. I've seen his interviews, he says you're a solid guy, he's always says you get a good friendship. How did that relationship start? So, Tate, yeah, Tate's from Luton, where he's from America, but come to Luton, and he boxed Storm Jim, so I know people who trained with him, fought with him, and Amir, so Amir is, Amir is a Bosnian, Bosnian special forces who's the trainer there. He's a very well respected man again, a Muslim man, but very well, I've never, everyone I've always spoke to, I ask about everyone, and everyone holds him in high regard. And I think he was like a mentor for Andrew Tate. I think, and so yeah, I got to know Andrew Tate, I did, I did travel out to see Tate in 2018, when I got cancelled, when I got cancelled because Tate wanted to set up a TV studio, pretty much what he's gone and done, yeah, but he wanted to do it. And for me, at the time, and there was all these different options, but he wanted to do it in Romania, and I didn't want to be in Romania. So nothing come of it, but that's when we went, I went out there to meet him for those discussions, spent a couple of days out there with him, kept in contact with him over the years. Yeah, that's it, and then boom, he's become the most Google man on the planet. But he's always done and said what he's doing now, which is some of the things he said, I tried to say it to my son, because all the kids are talking about Andrew Tate. And then my son says he's a billionaire. I said he's not a billionaire. I said, Tate says he's a billionaire. Tate says this, Tate says that. Tate says lots of things. I, I, I, I view it like Tate was creating an image, creating a character as such at times, saying things that were purposefully controversial, but saying things that he means at the same time, how do you mix the two? You know, talking about lots of positive things about men and how men should be. But, yeah, he blew up onto, and now he's currently sitting in jail, isn't he? Do you think they could possibly kill him off because he's got so big? I don't think he's ever, I don't think he's coming out. And I think that he has got too big. He's got too much influence.