 Yeah, it's it's weird when I came from Baltimore and I think one of our first road trips we faced the Orioles and I was pitching against you know Adam Jones a guy I played with my whole career and things like that. It's tough because other than in spring training you never do that. And I think for a second it takes you know you got to realize hey I'm on a new team now and my job is to get these guys out. And then you know we can be friends off the field and it took a little bit you know for me I'd been with the Ores for a really long time. Darren's had more experience going to multiple teams before so I don't think it's going to be an issue for him. And then you know with Otto it's you know it's kind of the same thing he's been on a couple different teams now so I think he knows how to handle it. And I think there's that sense that you always want to do well against your former team. And I don't expect you know for Otto you know for that to change I think he's going to be you know gunning for us when he's out there so you know it'll it's weird but if you've done it before I don't think there's much of an issue.