 a very good evening ladies and gentlemen and welcome to my set. I'm on the red carpet. My good name is Miski Pinje and welcome to Buzz with stars right here on SPM Buzz. Now guys, please come with me as I get to introduce to you what is going on today. Sorry, I'm showing you my back, but you know, I have to know this is the entrance of the women in film award that is going down today at the Kenya National Theatre. We are on location and you can see this is the entrance where we have very beautiful ladies waiting to welcome you, very hospitality top notch. People are feeling very comfortable now as you come in is of course the red carpet. They've not wasted any chance to have a red carpet in here for the women in film awards. Now we are excited because we are celebrating women today and what a better day to do so other than a day after Women International Day. Now we are here to experience and just see who's going home, who's nominated and who's taking away the award. We here on SPM Buzz are going to keep you posted on everything that is happening. Stay tuned. Hi guys, you know, I'm hanging out with a beautiful couple right here. They're going to be introducing themselves and just telling us what they do. I'm Zuri Sanna. I am Yafersi Musoke. I'm a screenwriter and also a sort of employee of my wife. That's really good to hear. Wow, employees are very strong word. My name is Joyce Musoke. I am an actress. I am a director. I'm a producer. Yeah, I go wherever there is work. That's what's up. You know, women are doing it right now. Now I'd really like to know how is it working as a couple in the same industry? Maybe I should start with a lady. We started working first before we were a couple. So that's our default setting. Our factory settings are we are working couple first. Yeah, but I mean, I don't know how to not work with him. He's a great, he's a great worker. Yeah. Are there times that you know, the two of you are not like, you know, in really good terms, but you still have to work? How do you go about it? We still just work. And how is it for you just seeing your wife on the same, you know, industry as you? Do you ever at some point feel like, you know, well, maybe she should be home? Does it ever cross your mind? No, actually, what happens if she's, she's working? Then I also take over responsibilities on this side, because the home is ours. So I can't just leave it all to her. When I'm working, she also we balance each other out. So there's no jealousy. We support each other. Yeah. That's really good to hear. Now, my dear, you're nominated today. How does that make you feel? It feels really, really good. I've been at it for about 17 years now. It's been a while. Excuse me. How old are you again? 17 years. Okay. What is the secret? You know, for someone, you know, who's been there and a staff at two, like, how can you be doing this for 17 years? What has kept you moving? I love it. I don't know how to do anything else. I've thought about it. Then I think, okay, I go and do what this is what I do. This is what I love to do. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, in the spirit of celebrating women, we saw the other day, there was this incident about the Boda Boda Riders, you know, and the lady was traumatized in the process. Looking at that video, I believe you've seen it. How did that make you feel as a man? I felt really bad because the instinct is to protect. We're supposed to be protectors. We're supposed to guide and even decide what kind of relationship, you know, we have with ladies as a protector, as a colleague, as a friend, as a source of security and stability. So when you see people like that out of control, it feels really, really bad. And then, of course, it lamps, we're all lumped together as all men and I can't come and defend myself because I'm also against it. So it's, if one person does it wrong, it affects everyone negatively, both men and women. And that's our leadership role that we're just throwing to the wind, thinking there are no consequences. We cannot, cannot ever have that. I totally agree with you. Now, my dear being in the industry for 17 years, you've had, I believe you've had your good measures of good and bad days. What are some of the challenges have you been through and you've been able to actually just conquer? Okay, maybe just lack of information sometimes, going about business in very naive ways. So I've learned hard lessons that way. But, you know, even the mistakes they grow as they make us land, they make us better. So I'm not where I was 10 years ago for sure. That's perfect. Please encourage a woman who intends to get into, you know, production and just the film industry. Just encourage her. Okay, just be true to yourself. Do what you love. Do what makes you interesting and interested. And take risks. Take risks. Shoot that first, it's called that, shoot that short film, write your script, go out there, apply for those grants. Yeah. And I mean, right now, we have social media. You can post up your work on YouTube. Unlike when you are starting, oh yeah, we had no other option. If it was not KTN or NTV, it was nothing. Yeah. So they have a lot of advantage actually. All right. Thank you so much, guys. I wish you all the very best. I pray that you win and you just keep encouraging the other women. All right, guys. Enjoy your evening. All right. Do when you're ready. Okay. Hi, my dear. Hi. Please introduce yourself and just tell us what you do. My name is Nelly Maluka. I'm the corporate communications manager at the Kenya Film Classification Board. That's really beautiful to hear now. I mean, we are celebrating women today. How does that make you feel just seeing where we are today? In a way that we're even awarding just women. Thank you very much. And I hope after this you are going to award me. Really, it is so good that the woman, the girl child has come from far. You can imagine those days when people looked at the women as maybe your place is in the kitchen or maybe at the back. But women have been empowered. Women are now becoming knowledgeable. Women have gone to school. Women are independent. Women are contributing very much to the GBT, not only of our country, but even globally. And there are very many good initiatives that we've seen women coming up with. I just want to congratulate women for the milestone that we have made. But again, we should remember like where I come from. I am a Christian. I know that a woman is a person who is a helper. In the Bible, the only time the word helper is mentioned is when talking about the Holy Spirit and when talking about a woman. So we are a helper. And a helper is a person who has to be appreciated very much. I just want to say really, I celebrate our women. And even those at home, the Mamamboga, they are doing a great job looking after children full-time. Wonderful. Now, Mama, I'm really interested to know how long have you been doing this? Okay. For me, currently I work for the Kenya Film Class Station, but because as an individual, I've been a humanitarian. I have worked in different countries in Central Africa, worked in West Africa, Sudan, all that, saving lives, saving lives in disaster management. But at the Kenya Film Class Station Board, again, we are there as we work our regulatory board. We regulate content and the creation, broadcasting, the distribution, possession, all those levels. And the objective is to ensure that all content that is filmed in our country and the broadcast content, it conforms to our Kenyan culture and our aspirations and morality. And we also do it to protect children from exposure to inappropriate content or maybe even premature exposure to adult content. Yes. I mean, what has been the hardest thing to regulate, especially now in the era of social media? Okay. I would like to say that, fortunately, Kenya Film Class Station Board is a board that is on the move, that we are changing with the change, because if you do not change with the change, change will change you. We are moving well with technology. We monitor even what goes on on social media platforms all of them. And by the way, we are very good in social media and our handles. We do a lot of our consumer awareness, but we monitor years. So when we monitor what we realize is that we are a regulator and we are lucky because we will get all the content that is not clean, the inappropriate content and so on. So we've gotten into partnership with Microsoft. We are in partnership with Facebook, Netflix, communications authority of Kenya, media council of Kenya, all that so that as we work as a team, we get all these, we come up with the reports and we quickly alert the right partner. If it has something to do with that TV, radio, we know it's communications authority. If it is a criminal thing, we know it's the DCI. If it has to do with the contact of a journalist, whatever their posted media council, all that and Facebook, Microsoft, who we just saw YouTube, they'll bring it down. They flag it down. Yes. Oh, that's great. Now, you see, I've also mentioned about, you know, just protecting children on social media. I'm not so sure if you saw, you know, this artist, gospel artist, who had put up a video of his child, you know, just telling the child, when you saw that as a mother and even someone who's sitting on the, you know, Kenya Film Classification Board, how did that make you feel? First of all, before I even think, of course, as a Kenya Film Classification Board, even as a mother, I know that's bad. And I saw today, he has apologized actually. So first of all, even exposing a child like that out there, you know, it is not good, it is traumatizing. And those are some of the kind of videos that immediate, I really want to thank the members of the public because they are stakeholders and they always alert us on such things. Immediately we see that even if you apologize, you know, it is already a mistake. And we have to ensure that we work with the right people to bring it down. Where the challenge at times comes is that there are people who download and you'll find they take such to a platform like WhatsApp. But you'll say now like WhatsApp is something that people will share as it is your individual choice. And it's within your phone and all that. But you'll say Facebook is a public platform. If you take it to TikTok, if you take it to Instagram, Twitter, what? Public space. And anywhere on the public space, for sure, if you make a mistake, you will attract regulation. And if it's a criminal thing, you definitely attract what? Some legal action being taken against you. Yes. I mean, as I let you go, my dear, I would like to know what is that one lesson in your career that you'd like to let us know you've actually learned and it has helped you. Okay. I think what I can say, I've learned this and every day I continue just looking at, fortunately, with my kind of job and having worked out there and early exposure, I started working with these platforms even before many people actually started subscribing on them. The internet does not forget before you post, think before you share, think. I want to give an example of the case that happened to our sister there. I could even call her my daughter. She looked at, she was a young girl in Madai Road and you see it was a mob. But at the end of the day, mob justice and you are all there with mob psychology and at the end of the day, you carry your own cross. You may want to say it's not me, but the internet technology does not forget. Then just check and see if there is so and so, there is so and so and so on. The internet does not forget and therefore it is important for everybody to consume it responsibly and take good care of their internet footprints. I mean, that is very insightful. You guys, you need to take that advice because as Shia said, the internet never forgets. This is going to be here as a reference as well, for just people to know it never forgets. Thank you very much. All right, Asante. Santa and enjoy your evening. Thank you. You look beautiful. Thank you, my dear, Asante. Hi, guys. I'm hanging out with a very beautiful lady. You look beautiful today. Thank you so much. You look lovely as well. Asante. Now, you know, I would like to know, how does it make you feel today that we are just celebrating women? I am so happy. First of all, the fact that this comes one day after international women's day. It's like, well done, organizer. They see what she did there. But truly, truly, the film scene is growing and the film space is growing super fast. And we need the women in the film space to grow just as fast, to never be caught behind. So we're catching, not even catching up. I feel like we're doing quite amazing. And I'm so happy to be here. So happy to be among legends. Everywhere I look, it's just legends of film in Kenya and female ones to be. So I'm blessed. I feel humbled. I feel very happy. And I'm honored to be among the women in this room. Awesome. Now, Mariam, I really need to ask you this. You see, the other day we had an incident about the Pudapuda writers, and there was a lady involved who was, you know, traumatized at the end of the day. How, looking at that video, how did that make you feel as a woman? Well, I think, I just, I think any woman out there knows exactly how it made you feel. The word is triggered. There's no other thing. It's incredibly heartbreaking. That's why I felt heartbroken on her behalf just because she didn't deserve that. No one deserves that. And it was heartbreaking, but also it was just triggering because there's so many times when Aman has touched you inappropriately. It has happened, as long as you're female, it has happened to you. It doesn't matter what you wear, where you go, it will happen. And to see that there's been, I see there's been a few knee-juck reactions from the government. They're trying to sort of get some structure into the Pudapuda space. I hope that it transforms into something that's actually, you know, long-lasting and effective when it comes to making sure that Pudapudas aren't a menace, but also that the women of Kenya are respected because today it was Pudapudas. A few years before it was my dress, my choice. There's always something. So I think there just needs to be more active participation in the work that needs to be done to make women in Kenya feel safe. We have a long way to go. Yeah. So I was, how did I feel heartbroken? Heartbroken and triggered, for sure. Please encourage her, or rather just even someone else who's been through the same situation on it that it didn't get on camera. I don't think I have any words of encouragement, except to say I'm really sorry for what you've been through. I can only possibly understand a fraction of what you're feeling, but I'm incredibly sorry. And I hope that what is done is necessary to make sure that it never happens to anyone again. And I hope that you have the space and the resources to find some healing, of course, and the grace. Yeah. All right, Mariam. Thank you so much for talking to SPM band. Oh, thank you for having me. Have a good evening in there. Yeah. You too, Adia. Thank you. What's up, guys? Guess who I'm hanging out with. Let me tell you, she's my childhood friend, and I'm very proud of her. Let her just introduce herself. Hi, Mama. Hi. How are you? You look beautiful. Thank you. The eyes for me. I know. I wanted to look dramatic. Clearly. You've achieved the drama. My dear, please introduce yourself and just tell people what you do. I'm Safina Iqbal. I'm an independent filmmaker, but I specialize in scriptwriting, and I'm a award-winning scriptwriter. And I'm also a nominee today for Best Writer for Film. Perfect, guys. Let me tell you, she's such a hard worker. What she's here today to do. Mama, how do you feel that you're celebrating just women today? I feel like we don't get a lot of attention in film, so it's great. Yes. I mean, and you see, I mean, you're a vocal person. I have to ask you this. The other day we saw what happened to the lady with the Boda Boda writers. I mean, that was trauma. Looking at that video, how did it make you feel? I couldn't watch it actually. I just reached the screams and I, and for an ass that says a lot, but it tells me that we've reached as a society and even minus Boda Boda girls just as a society. Because in my head, I'm like, this is forest road. How many cars passed through forest roads? We all ignored, all of us. The Boda Boda guys or whoever was there did it, but all of us, we ignored that girl. Because if she was screaming that much, even people who are passing had it. It's just sad. Very sad. Do you feel safe just being a woman in Kenya? Even being just a human being, are you really safe? Sometimes we just, like, usually I refuse to park my car in a dark alley. I was like, you know what? I told her, watchman tunakana weh weh apa. So it's, I don't know, it was sad. Yeah. How does it feel to be nominated and what category are you in today? Best script writer for film. Yes, I'm nervous, but I feel what do you call it, validated. Yes. It's not the first time you've been nominated. Is it always the same feeling? It's always a new feeling. It's a new feeling. It's brand new. Yes. It's like adrenaline goes, comes back. It's like you're being, it's like being interviewed. Every time, it doesn't matter how many interviews you go for, you'll always be nervous. Yes. What will change in case you win today? I think my self-sabotage will reduce. Yes. And I think I'll be more intentional about it. Yeah. Yes. I mean, Safina, I wish you all the very best today. I hope you win because you do an amazing job. Thank you. Thank you so much.