 Welcome to Toffy TV, now it's been revealed today four players are training on their own. In effect they've been told they have no future at Everton Football Club and it's now time to move on by the looks of it anyway. Ashley Williams, one of those players, it looks like he's on the way to Stoke, talk of him going down for a medical, for a loan for the rest of the season which effectively would, with one year left on a contract would see him leaving Everton. That's probably the best thing? Yeah, there's times done here isn't it, let's be honest. I think when we got him I think it's fair season, I thought he'd done alright, thought he was solid. But last season he seemed to hit a bit of a decline and he struggled like most of our players to be fair, but he didn't have a great season and then got himself sent off for Burnley and we didn't see him again. And I think he knows, I think his time has come to an end at the club, he's come back for his season, he's worked hard and he's played in a few games but I think he knows and I think Mark O Silver, I think he probably made the mind up anyway prior to that but it looks like he's on his way to Stoke. Do you think, I'm just playing devil's advocate here, do you think it leaves us a little bit short because we've only got, really only got Keane and Jaguil could fit it on to such, Mason Hallgate hasn't really done that much this pre-season and suffered with injuries at the back end of last season as well. I'm just wondering about whether he can be regularly fit and then that just leaves three and with the selling foons Morrie as well. I know Pennington's there but I'm not a massive fan of Pennington, I don't think he's, don't really think he's ready for this level. Do you think, I mean, what do you think about that? No, I think it means we definitely bring him on in, I don't think there's any question, I think apparently they're after two now, whether true materialise, I don't know, it's only a week to go. But I think sometimes when those opportunities present themselves to get a player out the club, I think it's better for everyone, I think it's better for him because he might want to miss this opportunity, otherwise he might be hanging around deadline day over, whatever, waiting for something. I think it gets him out of the club, it frees up that berth, the wages and stuff. And I think personally it's an indication that Brans is quite confident that he's going to be bringing someone in. And I think it's good to reduce the squad, it's good to get the people out that you aren't going to use, there's no point keeping them there. So I think it's the best decision for everyone. Obviously Kevin Morales is another of the names, he's been linked with a long move to Forantini for the rest of the season, we'll see if that materialises. But again, he's another one that, I'm not saying we had high hopes for him, nothing of the sort, but I suppose he's been quite professional in pre-season and he started games as well. He's always part of that sort of second 11, but he's started games, but do you think he's just hasn't impressed the manager? Or do you think there's just too much water under the bridge? I think too much has gone on for him to make a real go over here. I think he signed a big contract didn't he, at the start of last season and then found himself quickly out of Ronald Coombs. Start on 11 and then was out of the squad and then off he went to Greece didn't he. Kevin Morales is a good footballer, but with a bad attitude. You don't know what you're going to get from him and that's the problem. He's got a lot of skill and ability. At times he's very good, ironically in the number 10 role, but he lost that yard of pace. Once the injuries came and that explosive pace went from him, he was never quite the same player. I always, like you said, felt at times he's been decent at the number 10, I remember him against Man City. Ronald Coombs first season, when we've done four on a limb in Le Carchy, we're brilliant up front, but too few and far between those games and he's erratic and you've got the penalty situation with Bains at that time and he's very much out for himself. I just think he's got 30 now and on good wages and he's not the kind of player we need. Let's be honest, he got a chance last season to go to Olympiacos, take a step down, play somewhere where he's loved and by the end of it, they didn't want him because he just didn't do it. Where's his hunger, where's his desire? If he can't do it for a team like Olympiacos, then he's not going to do it for us. I think if he goes on loan, great, but he's one of them, we just want, we just say can you just go, can you just move away and we can just say it's done and there's a line. Well the link is, and this I suppose this was the case with Olympiacos, but the link is alone with the view to a permanent deal. So you would hope that he'd go and start really well and they tie him up quickly, you know, want to tie him up quickly. And then fade off. Well, listen, it's up to him, isn't it? He's got to go there, Italy might suit it. He just don't know, he's got this ability there, there's no question about it. Slow pace, maybe less expectation than what was on him at Olympiacos. Maybe none of those, but what was on him. Cuckal martine, not good enough. He seems like a nice fella, I think he tries, you know, I think he works hard and stuff. I've heard there's a couple of teams in the Zingari who were after him. I've heard there might be a bit of a battle team, East Villa and APH for his services. Well he'll have to decide which is best for his career. I think to him, for him it's not, you know, he needs to move on as well to get some football because he's not going to get it left quite clearly. It was a strange decision by Cuman, he brought him in on a free I suppose he thought. He's a utility player and he knows him and he knows what he's getting. But he wasn't even playing at Southampton, it was really odd and he still brought him in. But yeah, you know, I don't think that's any great surprise. I don't think those three. The surprise is Vlasic, which, listen, he came in 12 months ago, 10 million quid, looked at decent prospect, played well against us and we went and bought him. He was OK at times last year, I'm not convinced. I'm not convinced what his position is. I'm not convinced whether he's got the pace or the strength to play in the Premier League. Maybe we should have bought him last year and left him on loan at Split. Maybe that's the case now, maybe we should just send him back to Split or something on loan and just see how he develops over the next year. I don't know. It is a surprise because I don't think there's any problem with his attitude really. He's a good footballer, but against, I don't think he's the quickest. So playing him wide isn't really beneficial to us. All parts of the way Silver wants to play. Yeah, he probably could be playing number 10. Don't know. Well, he's played Dahl there in pre-season, in the Singlesons. You would think he would have him ahead of, you know, if he was going to have a future, he'd be able to play that role, but it seems that it's been Dahl. So maybe you look at it and think, well, maybe he would. It's a strange buy in the first place because he would have stopped the progress of Dahl. I mean, a loan deal to another Premier League club? Yeah, definitely. It's something like Cardiff, I think. And just see. And just see whether he can do it in the Premier League. It worked for him and he asked, didn't it? He went off to Hull and was able to do all right for them and then we've got, you know, some value out of him show. Maybe, maybe that's the kind of thing that we should be looking at. But are you happy that the manager's done this and said, you need to... Like, Vlasad is a flip of a coin, but he's never done anything to make me a coin. But I mean, all four. All four, yeah, because he said he was going to do it. No surprise. People just fed him quickly. People seen people commenting going, why isn't Snidlin on that list? Why isn't Balasi on that list? Well, while they still are, if you start telling people they're available, their value drops, there's still value in both of them. And I suppose he looks at them and goes, if no one comes in for them, they can do me a job if a need be. At least those players know with the time left and the chance filled when they're open that they know that they need to find themselves. Of course. It's better than just being, oh yeah, maybe it's better than clean break. But going back to the Vlasad one, I'd like to see him go on loan. And if it was a Premier League club, I think that'd be perfect. It'd be perfect. You know, somewhere that he played football. Newcastle. Just somewhere that he can go and just play football and then we can get an idea of it, how he progresses. I think that would be better. But listen that up to the manager, he's made the decision. It looks like a couple of them might have already got themselves sorted. That's right. And we're waiting. I don't know who will have that. It's good though to get them out the door for them and for us. Interesting. Let us know your thoughts in the comments. Do you think this is the right way to go? And on the Vlasad situation, would you rather see him go straight away or try and get a loan? Let us know your thoughts in the comments. Thanks for watching. We'll see you later.