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Obviously because the teams like events as we've won early by 20 points and there's PSG that have won early by 20. For me, the most interesting one is PSG because France, when I think of France, there's no, there's nothing there. There's Parasants, your man. And then everyone else is much, much without. There's no, what I mean is people aren't itching to get to France and play in France. It's weird France, isn't it? It's a weird fact that our country has biggest fans and how much it loves football and how, you know, it's won a couple of World Cups and stuff. And the players we remember and all that stuff just don't, just doesn't have big teams. Like Parasants, your man, till he were bought. Parasants wasn't even made till like 72. It was like when two teams to come together. Marseille, yeah, they're a big club. You've got teams from the 70s, like Saint Etienne, who wear big clubs, but they just monochome on a big club. No, 5,000 people. They've got a lot of money for a couple of years. Leon, okay. Leon are a biggish club. They're a big club, but they don't have big clubs. There's no pull there when you look at them. I don't know what it is, maybe. I don't know whether, I just don't know whether it's because the country, see the oddest thing about Paras, there's only one club. So you go to like 10 million people. So it's the biggest catchment area for anyone club in the world. And one club. You go to, you know, okay. Okay, maybe somewhere similar, but somewhere like Barcelona. But Barcelona isn't a big place. It's not a Spanieler in Barcelona. No, but I know, but they don't need what I'm saying. Barcelona isn't actually a big place. It's probably a little bit like Liverpool. That's actually probably got a bigger reputation because it's got a football team. It's one of those places. But you think of all the other capital cities. It's got two. And it's got actually got two or three. Get to Tafe and places like that, got to the round. You think of other places and they've got two or three, you know, big-ish teams. London obviously has got like 13 teams. That's a bit of it. I mean, it's got two, hasn't it? By in the 1950s, hasn't it? I don't know. It's just where France, it's just teams. There's no appeal for players to go there, I don't think. I mean, you know, and the league has played out like that because you've basically got a country behind the PSG. But there's no competition. So how do you get... I suppose before Paris Saint-Germain got the money, there was competition because everyone was, even though they were maybe on that level, they were still equal, but then you wouldn't go there. There was nothing to encourage you to go there. So I think in terms of Paris Saint-Germain, in terms of the city, in terms of Paris being one of the iconic cities of the world, it does deserve to have a team. That is a big team. It does, but if you're a league, if it's 20 points ahead, then you're a league. But in terms of if I was looking in, if I was looking in, it's not like a football fan. I would look at Paris as a city and go, they deserve to be a big club. They deserve to be an elite. And then if you were looking from the outside, you go, you know what? Actually it would make sense for it. It would make sense for teams like that to be in an elite competition. Right, so let's say that it happened, right? Because there's enough people pulling in the direction of wanting it. What would that mean for the rest of us then? I think what it would mean for Everton is that if it happened tomorrow... Well, there wouldn't be six English teams going in after a start. No, no, but if it happened tomorrow, I honestly believe we'd have no stadium. Because I think the people who were giving us the money, people who were giving us the money would go, well, all that money that you've got in the Premier League would go over there, because it just would, it would just go over there, because you wouldn't have the Champions League like it is. And the Premier League would be drained of all these assets. And they'd go, well, we're just taking the money. And if Everton them would have to find another way to guarantee that money, and they wouldn't be able to. Simple as that. So the people who were giving us the money would just go, you can't have it. You can't guarantee. That would be the big problem for me. In terms of football, I wouldn't be asked. I just wouldn't be asked. Because I watch the Champions League and it's great, but I don't, I'm not like, oh, I really, really, I'm not asked about the Champions League. I'm not really. I probably should be as a football fan because I wish I had them with me and that. I'm not. I simply don't. I don't watch it and I'm jealous. I honestly don't. I'd rather if... I mean, that's because we're not in the... If I was Liverpool, I'd rather win the Premier League than win the European Cup final. They could win both. But they'd rather, but if you... But I think for them, they... But if a Super League starts, they'd want to be in the Super League. Oh, well, no. Because that's the elite. But I think they get bored. I don't think I was a fan. I don't think Liverpool football could... I don't think the football club would. But I think... I'm not asked about the fans. Because what's the point of it? I'm not asked about the fans. It's a global game. Could we survive without the Super League? You'd have to cut your cough, wouldn't you? You'd all survive. I think... Do you not think there'd be any... So there'd be no... Do you not think there'd be any... Interest in the Premier League? Monetary wise? No. You know. Not big. Not big. If you're... Champions League is great, but the Champions League is not on every single week. If they created the European Super League, that was on every single week. Every single Saturday. Or Sunday. It's not going to be a Sunday, wouldn't it? Then I'm afraid your money's going, isn't it? And then what happens then? BT come in and BT will go, yeah, for this year's TV rights we'll give you. We'll give you. But then maybe the way to get round it then is like the Netflix model that we talked about. No, no way. But as fans you'd still pay. I agree. To what you're saying. I do agree and don't forget if... Don't forget if BT or Sky are paying £2 billion, £3 billion, whatever it is. That's an English market or a British market. So there's still going to be interest. But the problem is then, if you're drained of all your top players... Because all the top players can't go and play in a camp. They simply can't. Because if you've got... No, they can't pass. Because if you've got 20 teams, no matter if one of those... If you let's just say there's 20 teams and one of them is Galatasaray, Galatasaray will suddenly become full of absolutely brilliant players. Because it will just be like a franchise. It will be like... The way I look at it is... Let's say it's like the NFL, right? So you've got so many teams in the NFL. You've got 20... A player's not going to go, for me, a top player, as we move forward, is not going to go, no, I'd rather play for my team. They're all going to go, it doesn't matter what team I play for. I want to play in the brand and the brand will be the Super League and it won't matter whether it's Galatasaray, whether it's Liverpool, whether it's Ajax, whether it's PSG. You look at like... Another way to look at it is like, look at like the Indian cricket league where they have the... At the beginning they have bids for players. So the only way they have the players and where you end up is where you end up. I'm not saying it's going to be like... I'm not going to say... The MLS with the draft. NFL with the draft. The players are all there ready to play. They're not asked. They don't know where they're going. But they just want to play in the NFL. It doesn't matter who they play for. They just want to play in the NFL and I think that's what it would become like. It would become the Super League. We don't care. You hear them now and they go, I want to play in the Champions League. I want to play for the Champions League team. So ready their ideas. I don't want to play. I'm not asked whether it's that team, so have you suddenly got this closed shop where there is no other football? Just from an English point of view then just very quickly moving on. We've already got people trying to make it a closed shop in our league, haven't we? You know what I mean? Tachies voting for Christmas are basically what the Premier League team did when they voted to give the top six more money because it's just the motion now. They will break into the top six. I don't know.