 There you go, Alan. All right, Jim. We are live 2024. We've been wanting to do this kind of review for a while. Mhm. We weren't able to do it in 2022 nor in 2023. So we decided to do it now. That's right, Alan. This is the ranking the best metal rock books from 2022 to 2023 in 2024. And you're calling them the best. I'm calling them stuff we read that we enjoyed. Ranking them. Okay. Well, I mean, the reason why we were lumping them all together is because in 2022, there were books being, you know, put out. And a lot of people were doing a lot of reading during COVID, right? The lockdowns and all that stuff. And we just didn't get a chance to get around to all these books. Well, you guys put the end of 2022, right? We're not talking January because there's a whole other set of books we could have spoken about that. These are the ones we're talking about that were released in that timeframe. 2022. All right, that we thought stood out. How's that? Ranking them. All right, let's get going, folks. Hello, Jim. Hello to Michael. All right, let us go. Alan, you're going to get one here. Hold on. Coming in at number six. It's by the way, it's out of six. Boom. Into the void, Mr. Geyser Butler. Show it again. There it is. So, you know, red Aussies right there over here. And then I read Tony Iomis. And now I got to read Geyser. This is like the kiss. This is like kiss almost, right? Yeah, Jane. And then, yeah. And now we're just waiting for Bill Wards, I guess. But poor Geyser. Third place at the dinner table. Nothing left. No food, not even dessert. There's maybe a glass of wine left for him. I was looking forward to this because Geyser seemed like, you know, probably one of the more level headed guys in the group, right? And, you know, Aussies, the one behind me here is had me missing my parents throughout. I mean, the car horn factory. I mean, you just, I was literally crying out laughter where people were coming to check on me to see if I was okay. And then you had Tony Iomis was just whatever his recollections were, because he had had a little bit, maybe had a cold writing that book or something, but there were nice little short little stories equally as funny and his perspective. But now as Geyser says in his book, his editor told him that some of this stuff is not PC correct anymore, which led him with either repeating stories that we heard 30 or 40 times. Or, you know, keep keeping out the juicy bits. There's no juicy bits, Jim. I have the juicy bits all been said. That's the thing like between Aussie and Tony. Is there any untold stories? That's what I'm getting at. But only not because we got to, you know, sometimes you like to get that third version because it's, you know, it's a different recollection of what happened and he didn't park his Cadillac in the pool. It's fell in on its own. I was there. Well, what I got out of the whole thing was a lot of that I know before, because like you, I read Aussie's book, I read Tony's book, actually I read two of Aussie's books, right? Because he had two. The kinship, like it was more of a kinship from his perspective. Aussie less, spoke about less about the kinship. Iomi was more of the leader, but Geyser was more of like the quarterback in a sense, right? You know, I wouldn't say the quarterback. Maybe he was like the manager or manager of the team. I don't know. Like he just played a different role and I like that he was a brotherhood. Like you read the book and the band felt like a brotherhood. And I think he gave Aussie more credit for being a singer and a songwriter than Tony did. Yes. More than even Aussie did. Yeah. More than Aussie did. Yeah. I think he was, you know, when it came to that year, that's a good point. But I mean, it's just, there's no meat left on the bone for poor Geyser to get his book. Yeah. But even Tony was able at least to talk about the, the Martin, Martin, Tony was Tony Martin era. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they're releasing it. They're releasing it. Yes. Maybe May 2024. That's right. The Tony Martin era. Didn't they say that last year though? Yeah. We'll keep our fingers crossed. But that's it. I mean, it was a highly anticipated book for myself. I couldn't wait to read it. And it just left me saying, I'm sure Geyser, I'm sure there's tons, a whole other book on the editing room floor. I have no doubt about that. And I'm sure that's the book I would have preferred to read. Maybe even Geyser himself. I mean, there was a devil horns. Like, no, it was me. It was me before Ronnie James deal. But then again, he pointed out the Beatles, right? And how they use the devil horns. A deal made it popular. He didn't invent it. You know, he just made it popular to the masses in the metal world. Right. Geyser, I'm sure he did it beforehand. And I'm sure the Beatles and John Lennon and the rest of them did the devil horns. But yes, it was popularized by Ronnie James deal. A lot of nice things to say about deal. But he did point out the sort of the, the budding of heads with deal that you didn't get that as much with Tony. Like if you recall in the book, he was saying how he was difficult to work with that. Maybe Ronnie came across as everybody was sort of siding with him. But no, there was reason why he had sort of, you know, the, the live evil problems, you know, in the mix and, and they're not just getting along. They're in one, the, the Americans are in two, one limo and the British are in another limo and the separation. But he did point out that Ronnie was difficult to work with because he was more of a, let's do this now where the Sabbath guys were like, okay, we'll take our time. When we get there, when we get there, but it doesn't mean either side is wrong. It just means either side have, have a different sort of ethics or work ethic. That's all. No, and again, in, in all their books, I mean, I think they were very happy to get better back together years and years later, decades later to form heaven and hell and do that tour and we were hoping to do even more and build on that. Fortunately, it never came to pass, but, you know, it was interesting. I mean, I love the stuff I've read before, heard before and I can't say the perspective was anything different than what we were led to believe in the past, but again, I'm sure there's a whole other book on the cutting room floor that the poor, poor geezers may be suffering for the times that it was released and the Juicy Bits weren't no longer publishable. Whereas in Ozzie and Tony's case, I mean, they didn't leave too much, too much for the imagination. I agree with you. I don't think it was a terrible read. It was a fun read to re-remember, you know, the Sabbath era from a geezer butler's perspective a little bit more about his family and his growing up and, you know, being Irish right in the band, but I kind of enjoyed it. But I agree with you 100% that we should have learned something new, right? There should have been something else there. And I think a true definition of a great documentary and a great book is when you lay it out on the line, right, the tragedy, the triumphs, and it's all there for people to read about. Because that's what makes, that's a connection, the human connection, right? When people can relate to tragedy and triumph. Saying that, any other last points? No, I mean, in being the lyricist of the band, you would think, you know, he does go into a few of the songs that he's written. But, you know, he's such a great lyricist, you would figure that, you know, it would be a little bit more to the book and to maybe insights into the, at least he didn't go down that path analyzing every song. He did a few, but for my recollection, it's been a while since I read it, but, you know, again, he's got one of the strongest lyricists I think ever, you know. His lyrics in a way defined heavy metal, right? The way the lyrics are written, right? So, again, I can't say that was a bad read, but I mean, I've been waiting so long and this is Geyser Butler's, there's from the beginning and all the stories. I mean, the guys have been around forever, right? So, you know, just left me a little short. Let's say that. Yeah. I guess it's all about expectations. You were expecting here, but you got that, right? So there's a gap. All right. Moving on. This is our fifth most appreciated book for the year. The fifth one that we liked. Am I ranking it properly? Let's see, Geyser Butler. Sean Kelly. Don't call it hair metal. Don't call it hair metal. Great interview with Sean. We were able to get it on around the time of the book launch and I love the book. I mean, the way he did it, the way he went through it historically and the insights and interviewing and having friends that remembered that period. And again, it's to clarify, because again, I was watching, I won't say the name of the channel that was doing music video. They have a show called Hair Metal Madness. And Ted Nugent was on there, you know, doing Wango Tango or the Scream Dream. I mean, the bands that they put it there into the hair metal banner is completely, you know, a sabotage. I'm not sure they were hair metal, you know, you know, the Oingo Boingos are danger, danger. Okay, there's an argument to be made and put some of the bands up. I can't, Moran, I think, was there under hair metal. So that's why his books about, hey, don't call it hair metal. Because, you know, even the stuff that was considered hair metal in his book, he says it's not really hair metal. It's kind of rock bass, blues bass. And that was his argument, his thesis. And I think he presents it well, because I think people have lost track of what exactly was, you know, again, like he says, it's a term that came decades later made. But, you know, there's bands that we can look back and say, yeah, you know, that was probably hair metal, where the look was more important than the music, but the music was still good. And that's what his point was in the book. We can't just lump them under this joke called hair metal. There's a lot of good bands, a lot of good music, and still being played and still being taught about today. I got to say that Sean Kelly's book, who also is the guitarist for Coney Hatch and Lee Aaron, he, at first I was going, ah, here goes another hair metal book. You know, we're going to hear the same old stories. But I think the way he sort of wrote it, it's like a thesis. He's trying to prove the point, right? And the way he wrote it and the way the, it's sort of like, it's a historical sort of documentation as it leads up to, from that, the beginning of the golden era to through the golden era to later on, he just, the way he words it, the way he puts it, the way he puts it together, the way he chronologically sets it up, it works. It's a fun read. And you know what? Oh yeah. And oh yeah, a lot of, yeah, yeah, he's right. And oh yeah, I didn't think of that. So he does a really great job on his thesis. And again, I just finished reading nothing, but a good time. Another book I would recommend that came out a few years ago, but great interviews with Tracy Gunns and a lot of people from that era. And so it was just a nice fit to read Sean's book after this, because, you know, the same, the same era, we're talking about the same stories, the same, some, some even people were interviewed in both books. So, yeah, it's just, it was a nice tie-in to that other book that I highly recommend that you haven't read yet. I lent it to you, but I, yeah. I'm standing on the shelf. I would suggest you read it, because you'll have a good time reading it. All right, cool. All right. So now we're going into, oh, here is an excellent. Okay, got it. All right. Number four, Brian Johnson, the lives of Brian. Now I was really looking forward to this one. This one was the one I was really looking forward to. Me too. Finally, Brian Johnson's going to lay it on the line, the tragedy, the triumph, the hear loss, Axl Rose taking over for him. What does he think about this? And, and I got to say, I was kind of let down. I did learn about his life and, you know, how we grew up in London or not in London, where do you, where do you grow up again? Near Newcastle. Newcastle, that's right. It's nice to learn about, you know what it is, Alan? It's great to know about people's backgrounds. I have nothing against that. I like having a little, you know, where you come from. But when it becomes the whole book or it feels like it's the whole book, that's when he gets a little too much. And then he goes back to the book. Or something. It starts with my grandfather. And he's like, oh, that's great. That's a little bit of one of those books. Well, great grandfather. But you know, I know you're disappointed by this book because it pretty much ends the moment he does, he finishes recording back in black. So the good news is Jim, there's supposed to be a second book that carries on from there. So I knew going in that this was kind of a little bit of a different story. But I was, you know, I thought I expected a little bit more of the ACDC years, but I can't say I was disappointed. First of all, Brian Johnson, I read his rockers and rollers. He had me laughing out loud. 14 pages in, I was laughing out loud in this one. You know, you could see the struggle that this guy had, not only with Jordy and how he got ripped off by the music business, like everybody, but how he made this unbelievable really destiny to join, you know, get this call to come and rehearse for his band that I cannot say the band's name, but the initials are ACDC. Akadaka. So, no, again, but he's just the character, the way, you know, you're reading it. It's like you're sitting at the bar having a new cast of brown ale with him and just hearing these stories. So I loved it. I know you were disappointed with it, but I loved it. I thought it was fantastic. And again, I can't wait to hear the second part there about the ACDC years. Tanvir is texting and he says, Jimmy doesn't appreciate for a play. He just wants to meet. Or the meal, the meat. I'll let somebody else confirm or deny that. They won't be me. You know, Alan, I did read it. I did enjoy it, but I guess I was disappointed in a sense. I know you were disappointed. The same way you were disappointed with Giza Butler in a sense, like, and maybe this is a little bit different. I don't know what it is. I can't put my finger on it, but. I love the part of he was a struggling musician trying to make it the Geordie years, his parents. It just got a little too much and, you know, the world of his parents. I didn't know he was half Italian. I had no idea, but he was. His mother was Italian, right from Italy. I don't know if I don't remember if he said he speaks Italian, but he probably understands Italian. So that was interesting. They were poor. They're poor people, right? I mean, there's no spoilers here because this book's been out for like about a year and a half now. So if you haven't read it by now, you know, you shouldn't be watching the show. I love the fact that he was like you mentioned, he was picked for AC this is like frigging ACDC we're talking about. And he just everything he's got into it. Right. And of course, in the next book, we'll realize when you give everything you've got, what happens? I love the part about the Axl Rose. It's kind of like he didn't want to pay attention to it because in a way it burned him inside. I think that's what you mentioned. Yeah. It's like somebody else dancing with your girlfriend. So he didn't want to pay attention to it. And it was happening. But that's what I love about ACDC. They're true to their friendship. You know, they're really true to their friendship. And a lot of people said, yeah, get Axl, get Axl. But I just knew if he sorted out his problems, they would have taken him back. And I guess they did. Well, the way he describes how it came about, I mean, that was unbelievable. I don't want to do any spoiler alerts, but he explains how he got to that point. And it's amazing that he was able to do what he did for so long. And luckily they put an end to it, to preserve what he has hearing left and able to live some whatever normal life. So imagine being a singer and you can't hear, right? That's just, it must be just that alone is depressing. And then somebody stepping in on your shoe, in your shoes. Oh yeah. That would be hard. It hurts. But look at, you know, Aerosmith just canceled because of Steven Tyler. They didn't think about bringing somebody else in. It's a, you know, it's a bit of a slap in the face. It really is. But at the other hand, it's like, okay, we got X amount of shows to do. We don't want to disappoint our fans. This might be our last tour ever. And do we just, you know, punch out the clock and then do these last shows with somebody else? I mean, he sees Axl's not exactly Joe Glow off the street. I mean, you know, and I just read a Chris Slade article that said that with Axl, he had, he was listening to them and the monitors on that tour. He said there's the best ACVC ever sounded, which might explain why Chris Slade was invited back for power. It would power pop, power build, power up. Yeah. Yeah. Or the recent tour. So, you know, listen, I will tell everybody that if you want to get that foreplay, then this is the book for you. Well, I'm really excited about the next Brian Johnson book, The Meal. That to me is where, you know, they're doing the albums that made them so big. Not that they didn't touch on that. He did touch on it. It's just he didn't go into depth about it. It's like I'm reading a book about 30 pages left and now he's joined the band. You know, it's like, okay. I mean, what the hell is he going to talk about in 30 pages? A little less about, you know, growing up poor and a little more about ACVC. And then he, you know, and then he hesitates, right? I really want to go, you know, I got something good. I might have a little bit of a research. I do my business. But again, everything works out for the best because that roofing business he had that was finished within the next three years. I mean, nobody was doing that. It didn't exist. And it was like, it went the way of the typewriter and the beta, beta max machines. And just everything. I mean, it was just what it was meant to be. It's meant to be as destiny. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? Again, maybe it was expectations on my part, like user Butler was expectations on your part. I was expecting this, but I got that. But it was still an enjoyable read. I'm not going to say it was horrible. I didn't like it. I did like it. I learned a lot about Brian Johnson on a personal level that I would have not known if I didn't read the book. Yeah. The next book is also where split. Yes. We're split on. We're split on. Let's see what we got. Brian Johnson. And the next book is Rick Emmett. Lay it on the line. There it is. We were lucky enough to interview Rick. On the pond release. I'll let you go first since you read it first. Well. This is an interesting book too. Yeah. What happens is we've interviewed Gil, Mike Levine, Rick Emmett. So the stories have been told to us already. So it's it's not like we're reading a book and discovering something new, you know, the ups and downs. Rick has already expressed most of that stuff to us. So we had a head start. That's what I'm getting at. There was no real big secrets revealed. This book is a part being in triumph part being Rick Emmett and part sitting on a psychiatrist's chair and just trying to understand the world and the music business and just everything in life. So there's part philosophy, part triumph, part Rick. It was a good read. I enjoyed it. He's a different person that we know who who's on the record like, you know, the late on the line, the positive messages of always continuing. Like you expect a different person from the book person in the book. And that's not a bad thing. It's just it's just a different part of him that we hear on music and a different part of him that we hear in the book is disappointments in triumph is triumphs in triumph. There are some there are some cool moments like he is giving us an inside look at the music business, right? An inside look at being the third guy getting voted out, you know, two against one in triumph. But that was the magic of triumph. This, the headbutting. What do you think? Well, I mean, I didn't get too much of that. I mean, we joked earlier when the book starts, you know, my grandfather came to America and, you know, you know, you might be in for a long read. But Rick, Rick's book is completely different than anything I've ever read. I mean, like you said, yes, it's his life growing up. It gives you about his attitude. He's an overachiever. He's a go-getter. He's an athlete. Then he joins triumph, which has already got this record contract and they take it to this other level. But that's only like, like Rick's always said, that's just been a part of his life, a small part of his life that he's, he's known by, but it doesn't, it doesn't make him, everything is about triumph for him. It's not, it's not his be all end all. So that's where it gets into the other parts. And even his solo albums, you know, the early ones after, with Duke Street Records, he doesn't go into too much about that. He goes a little bit, but it's more or less overall, then he goes into, you know, how to make the music and how the ear hears things. And now you're saying, whoa, man, where I'm in, this is territory that's never been done before in an autobiography, a rock autobiography. And that's what I thoroughly enjoyed about the book. It's, it's not the, here's the album, here's this song. I did this song, then this album. And then we did this, you know, Tony, I only did a little bit of that in his, not that it was bad, it was well done. But you know, you're like, okay, what's happening behind the scenes? And Rick takes you, like I said, you know, behind the mask, because he's always, always wearing a mask. So now he's learning to live without that mask. And, you know, then he goes into the family life and how it's difficult. But it's really, it's really, I don't know, when you're getting into, like I joked at the time. Alan, you got to pause right there. The new metal voice CEO is coming. Oh, we got a new metal voice member. CEO is coming. I think we might get fired. We might get fired here. The president of Metal Voice Incorporated. Where is it? Has decided to join us. You bring him here? No, no, I just bring him here. A quick little, Alan, I'm really fearing here. I'm fearing for my life. Okay, bring him, bring him, bring him. All right, here we go. Alan? Oh, the metal voice. There you go. The CEO himself. The CEO himself? He's the one that signs the checks. He's got his little shirt on, Alan. Yeah. I don't know if he, if he cries, that means you're fired. You're going to lay it on the line. What did you think of the Rick Emmett book? Hold on. He likes it. He likes it. Okay, good. You get the CEO. He signs all the checks, Alan. That's the professional studios and the professional microphones that we got enough for money and equipment to pay for that stuff. So again, thanks, boss. You're doing a great job. Thanks for signing the checks. I think he's had enough, Alan. Yeah, he's, you know, he doesn't like to be on camera either big boss. He's a more of a behind the scenes guy. That's it. You know what? We're handing him off. I'm just handing him off to the crew. The limo is here to take him away. The merch lady. The merch lady. But again, that's it. When you're getting into physicalities and how to play guitar and how process, how the ear process of music. And I mean, it takes it to a whole other level. And that's what I really enjoyed about the book. I know you were looking more for the, you mentioned the time more stories about triumph and in-depth on triumph. But it's really a small part of the book when you look at the whole. But I did like it. And that's kind of why I rated it higher like you did. I liked it because. It did talk about the dynamics a lot, the dynamics of. Of, you know, when you're three, right? That's the perfect, what do they say, the perfect democracy? Yeah. And again, it's, it's, it's Rick's point of view. And he was a, had an honest impression of that period. It wasn't a lot of easier period for anybody at one point. You know, especially when you owe your record company millions and dollars and get a recruit that somehow. That, that's what I liked about it. And that's the tragedy, like the, the, the pressure of knowing that you owe all this money to an entity. And they're expecting a return. You could see that he didn't, it didn't sit well with him knowing that he owes people money and he had to create something to pay them back or to do something. You didn't like to be owned. Whereas the other guys, you know, to them, it was just alone, right? You know, we'll, we'll, we'll take that money and we'll turn it around. Rick. His character is more of a, I don't know what the, a more of a cautious, perhaps cautious kind of person. Yeah. Pragmatic. Pragmatic is a good word. Yeah. Yeah. And I get it. I'm very good read highly recommended. And again, it's, if you just want to hear the story of triumph, this is, you know, like you said early, you wanted to buy in Johnson book, you'll be the story of AC DC. Well, if you think this is a book about Rick Emmits is just about the triumph years, you'll be sorely disappointed, but you'll be glad you read it because it's not just based on that. So it gives you, and I'll leave everybody with this. It gives you what it's really like to be in a successful band, but the grind of it all, right? The grind, in other words, you know, the touring, the, the plane rides, the, the, the pressures from the label, the pressures to crank songs out, the pressures to, to sell this, the seats, you know, all these sort of inner workings and all the pressures and the ups and downs and the tragedy and the triumphs. That's what makes a good book, right? Revealing it. Revealing it all. I sat down once and gave a kind of a rating, a Martin Popoff rating to all the favorite bands and everything I've purchased this stuff, Triumph easily made my top 10 bands of all time, but Rick always considered himself, you know, we never were the A grade bands like the ACDC, we were more of the B, BC plus type of bands, which I was surprised to hear because I mean, growing up, Triumph was, you know, they never opened for anybody. They were huge, right? Yeah. But he was very honest with where they fit into the music scene. You know, he wasn't, they weren't the Madonna's and the Metallica's and the Aerosmiths or ACDC's of the world, but they're, you know, they fit in good with the Scorpions and the Priest at the time. What a guitarist. You know what, to me, Triumph, you know what? A part, they're great, but together they're just, it's the perfection, right? When they're all together doing their thing, they need each other to be Triumph and that music that we love. And a lot of people, I know Rick, you know, he loves the soul work and I understand that he wants to express himself, but when he's with Gil and Mike, that's where the magic is. That's just the magic, man. You can't take that away. The magic is there, you know. But again, we're talking about the book, so. Talking about the book. All right. Here we go. Last book. Last one. No. Second to last one. Number two, Tone Chaser by Steve Rosen, who we did an interview with. Rosen, yeah. Rosen. I don't know, it was like 5,000 pages, Alan. I don't know. What a book. What a book. I'm understanding. Understanding Eddie Van Halen, my, was that 20, I can't read it, 20 something year journey with Eddie Van Halen, Edward Van Halen. What a book. Yeah. Yeah. If you want me to start off and just give everybody the premise, here's a journalist. There are just so many levels to this book. Here's a journalist. Who met Eddie back in the whiskey days. A lot of one-on-ones, a lot of over, you know, I wouldn't call it sleepovers, but a lot of up staying up late at night, just talking with Eddie. And Eddie being so excited to play him the first demos when they're recording, you know, the debut album and sharing his, his inner band workings and who he was personally. And, and, and Steve Rosen or Rosen. Was promised by Eddie. Don't worry, I'll let you release this book. You could record these conversations. But he never let him. He never let him release this book until of course he passes. And then Steve is saying, you know what, I'm going to release this book, right? He owes it to me. He owes it to me for a thousand pages and countless interviews. If you want to truly understand who Eddie Van Halen was, then I suggest you pick up this book. I agree, Jim. I mean, all the insight, all the behind the scenes from a guy that was there. Steve Rosen has done a lot of other things as well. There's not just this one book. He was a, you know, he was a reporter. He did music. He, you know, he was back there. He was, he was meeting with Eddie. Eddie would come over his house. So it's really an even, you know, he doesn't go too much into like the dynamics with the other guys that are paying attention upon, but he doesn't really trash anybody else. He just, it's just his observations. It's been a while since I read it, but man, the detail. And like we said at the time when we interviewed him, it's like, poor bastard. Can you get this signed off on it? Because he's trying everything he could. You know, I get it. You don't want to be too pushy, but all the work he wanted to put into it, he wanted it to be released. So he's kind of hounding Eddie, Eddie, Eddie. And then he got kind of turned away because he was hounding him so much, but he was just doing, like you said, what was promised him all along. I mean, people put time and effort into this. It's that the room pulled out from under him. So just a fantastic read, really likes, you know, talking about stories that you never heard of before. Yes. Yes. This is firsthand accounts of stuff that nobody else even knew about. Messages on the answering machine. Yeah. Eddie, you know, and he goes, Eddie, I'm recording now. Eddie, I'm click. I'm recording now. Eddie, I'm recording now. I mean, these are personal and get, let's just be honest. There was no trashing of people here. Like you said, there's no trashing. It's just conversations with him and Eddie late night, just talking, talking about everything and how that relationship sort of decayed. And he had no idea why the relationship was decaying, but there's another level to this, Alan. Us being the superstar journalists that we are, you know, there's journalism and then there's bands. And then there's perception about what that relationship really is, right? Here's the journalist thinking that we're friends now, what he's friends with Eddie Van Halen. He thought he was friends with Eddie, but I don't think it was reciprocal. I think Eddie just saw him as a journalist. And I think that broke Steve's heart in a way, like as the books progressing, right? Of course the artist is going to be very kind to the journalist because they want to make sure they're being looked upon in a positive light. But at the same time, the journalist, as he's seeing this star rise, he's thinking, oh my God, I've developed this real friendship. And maybe there was a friendship between him and Eddie Van Halen. There probably was, but the more popular Eddie Van Halen guy, sort of that, that relationship decayed, we could say. Well, there's some dark years there, right? I mean, towards the, before reuniting with David at the end, there were some dark years. And Steve was there, where did he see some of that? Or he was, you know, maybe Eddie wasn't communicating with anybody at that point. So that's, I think that definitely plays into it as well. But a great read, I mean, again. What a surprise. I mean, firsthand accounts of stuff and stories you've never heard before and from a person that, again, was there on site dealing with Eddie person to person, friend to friend. Like you said, you got a, that line kind of got blurred. And then once it got blurred, you couldn't, you know, you were just considered a journalist at the end and you were lumped in with everybody else through Eddie's management or PR people. You can't help the feel for Steve at that time. And after all you've been through trying to bring this book to fruition and bring it to light. I'm glad he was able to do it at the end of the day, hopefully without too much legal repercussions. You know what? You can go check out our interview, right? That we did with Steve. You can check out the interview with Rick Emmett. You could check out the interview with not Brian Johnson, that's for sure. And anyone, and Sean Kelly that we did. And we talk about their books more in depth. And if you want to get a better idea of what these books about before you buy them, they are there. Let's go to number one unanimous choice. Unanimous. Unanimous. My F in life, Getty Lee. My F in life, Getty Lee. There it is. There's the book, the brilliant. There it is. There's the base. There it is again. What a book and not only a book, but the whole tour, the book tour, the way it was done. Every city is special. Theaters with a special guest interviewer. We, you know, we had Jay Behrichel here in Montreal, the Montrealer, rush fan that was there on the time machine tour. Or is it Clockwork Angels? Sorry. Clockwork Angels did a little parody, the little funny film. And, but, you know, Paul Rudd did it in other places from, I love your man. And, you know, it was just the way it was done. And the book itself is unbelievable. Yes. You could, you were not expecting less from, from Getty Lee. A man of quality. Always, always. You nailed it. You nailed it. You couldn't expect less. You know, we all know the rush stories, right? Don't caress a steel down the tubes tour, you know, hemispheres, you know, the, he sang it in the raw key. We all know the, the basic stories, but Getty was really getting, you know, enough detail about the rush years, the smoking pot. Like what? You smoke that much. I didn't know that much. Right. That was the relationship between him and Neil and Alex. You know, the relationship between him and his wife. Right. And sort of how frail it became at the more success, because he was a perfectionist and perfectionist. And perfectionists need to complete their perfection, their jobs, their art and how that kind of went apart. And then how it came back together again. And most importantly, Alan, being a Canadian, and a lot of Canadian isms about growing up, right? Um, being in a, in a, in a, in a minority with a minority group within Canada as well. You know, he's Jewish. So he was living in that Jewish life, but you don't have to be Jewish to appreciate that. You can be, you know, Italian, Greek, whatever nationality, you could be a minority within a minority and you could appreciate the sort of nuances and the day to day cultural differences. And, but even though he's about 15 years older than us, maybe even 10 or 15 around there, we still grew up the same way as he did in Canada. So there's a lot of those cultural, you know, things that we think of when we grew up in Canada, maybe even the United States as well. Right. And again, you know, the famous chapter three, when he goes into his history with his parents and the Holocaust, I mean, that's, you know, that's something that just interesting to read from a historical context, but then it brings it up to put his, his own situation and his personality into it, how it affected him, um, you know, throughout throughout the rest of his life. And so again, that was, that was a difficult to read, but it was a, it was a necessary read. And again, the whole, you know, yes, he goes album for album and some songs, but it's just the way it's done. Like you said, he's so humble. And he admits, you know, I'm a perfectionist, I drive the engineer, what's this knob do? What does this do? How can we kind of do this? And, and then the, there, there, you call there desperation to record everything. So as it could be presented live. Right? No overdubs or anything, whatever they can do, it has to be able to be done live. And I mean, that led to, at least there are a whole other bunch of headaches, right? So again, just a wonderful band, a wonderful man. And, and, you know, I can't say enough about this book. It's, it's, it's what we all like about Getty. And it's, you know, he's, he's, I mean, everything he talks about, it's, it's like, oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. Oh yeah. Coke in the early 80s. Wow. Yeah. Getty was part of that too. Okay. Okay. But like, you just accepted the way it's presented to you. You're, you know, just along for the ride, man. You know, it's all about relationships. This book is a relationship with his wife and his bad members and the love, the love around his family and his family growing up. And I don't know what, you know, I, it's a brotherhood. Right. And Neil and Alex, they're, they're brothers and, and, and to read the last chapter when Neil passes, it was done. Right. It wasn't overdone. It wasn't too much in detail, but it was done perfectly. You know, it respectfully, how's that? And he takes a shot. He takes it a shot at an artist who is unnamed, who sort of took, he claims he took the, who took the opportunity to sort of talk about Neil and his last, his later years before his death, before asking sort of permission from others in the Rush family. And he doesn't name that person, but he goes, I will remember this name. I'll remember what you did. So he takes a shot at somebody. And, but he doesn't a very respectful manner. Like, I know what you did. And I will remember what you did. And that's it. I was waiting for this book my whole life. Yeah. I mean, you know, I was able to read this big book at base, right? Which, man, you gotta, you gotta be a bass lover. He goes really in detail when it comes to a lot of those bass guitars. But I mean, this is talking about his life. And I mean, just, you know, stuff as humble as, you know, meeting Robert Plant by chance at a hotel. And then he looked at each other and then Robert came to introduce himself and say, it can't be him. Well, you know, what would he be doing here? And sure enough, it was Robert Plant. And just the way that kind of grew into, you know, one of his major heroes where he was being invited to shows in Toronto to go and see him humbly, you know, just the humility of the fellow and the honesty is the book for me. That's the honesty. I mean, he, he admits when he might have been in an error or how he reacted, even to the fact that they weren't touring anymore. And he was honest with that. He was upset, you know, then he felt guilty because he comes down to honesty. It comes down to honesty. He was honest. That's what compelled us to keep reading this. And he touched the reader on just on every level, you know, like a family level or a relationship of a wife and husband level. When he talks about his wife and how much he hurt her, you know, and how it was growing apart. And but now they're back together, which is great, you know, and they didn't divorce or anything, their relationship went through troubled times. We'll say, right? No, it's just the life of a musician, right? Yeah. Back then. And it gives you a great perspective of being in the inner circle of being in a popular band like Russia's like a frigging big band. You're talking about the level of, you know, Led Zeppelin in a way, right? Did this is like, you know, one of the greatest rock bands ever, at least in my opinion, and they will be loved for generations. Yeah. And again, you were able to catch him on the book tour. I mean, Two. Two. Yeah. The way he describes the way he describes the story is either, you know, we're talking about humility, but you're also talking about comedic aspect, right? They've always been a funny bunch of guys, right? Yeah. Right. And I got to say about the book tour. I saw him the first time. I saw him the second time. The first time it was more of a, okay, we're talking about the bass. It's not very interesting, but it's Getty Lee. And we got to meet him and shake his hand or not shake his hand, but get his book signed and take a picture. So that was cool. But the second time was a lot better because again, like you mentioned, guest interviewers with Getty and that made it more lively and fun. I don't think there's a person that room was bored. We're all engaged in the interview because Getty, he's funny. He's clever. He's, we always think as the brains behind rush was Neil, but Getty was just as clever at even Alex as goofy as he is. They're all like pretty smart guys and, and humble. I like that word humble, very humble. That's what connects. So that was the book of the year 2023 by far. Show it again, Alan. Show it again. If you haven't read it, grab a copy today. Getty Lee, my F in life. Lots, lots of pictures, lots of little stories. Just a great, great, great read from a great, great, great musician and Canadian and singer and human being. Oh, wait a second. The CEO. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. He approves. He approves. All right. All right. Thanks for watching everyone. And, uh, you don't have yourself a wonderful 2024. Happy New Year.