 E o que está? Ok, hola a todos, meu nome é Jorge, difícil de pronunciar, George é a alternativa. So, o tema now, first of all, thank you for being here and not being talking about Pokémon, what is? It's a strong competitor, ok? In any case, it has been great so far, I've seen a lot of ideas so I thought that something that could be good here is not to present because most of it comes as a discussion, so this is a pure discussion. It's a discussion about cycling, ok? We can bring the discussion back about whether cars are public transport but ok, we all may agree that cars are not the way for Singapore and then we go to alternative so let's just focus it only on cycling. So, just look around, in Singapore really few people cycle, if you compare it with other countries, whether there are Asian countries as it could be in Taiwan, whether there are European countries as it could be Denmark, Netherlands. So, the objective now is to set in this meeting just to keep it simple, how to get more people to cycle, right? Big objective, but a small objective, depend on how we look at it. Ok, so, more people cycling, cycling. And cycling not just for recreational purposes but as a way of commuting, right? So, what I would like to bring to the table and get your opinions on why, what are the reasons why people don't cycle? So, if pro pro no. a, why? Why is this a problem? Why? This theme about, and then how can you before? How can you be solved from a social perspective, from a government perspective, from a infrastructure, from the taxa government perspective, in most cases or from any other perspective, the economical perspective you name it? So, reason number one why people don't cycle in Singapore. O que? Humid Humid Humid e raími. Ok, so, huele. So, why that problem? When you go to work, you'll be drenched. Ok, because of sweat. So you're either sweaty or you're wet. Sweat or because of the rain, you'll be wet. All wet. Perte. So, how can we show that? What if I give you all? Show or facility? Show or facility, okay? Understanding both of them. Okay, understanding both. Like, call it with... Shower, okay? Hi. So, for example, an option would be to put showers in the office, right? I have a company, my company wants to be cycle friendly, so I put a shower there, some lockers to look at. So, we have one, more, another reason why people don't stay constant. I think it's quite the... The public transport story is quite diverse. We have access to most places, not like many of the developing countries whereby connections do not run to some place or the other. It's a very complex... Comprehensive... Compre... Páfaro... Páfaro... Pt. Páfaro... Bícico parking. Bícico parking, okay? We bring the price first. Park... Safety... Safety parking. Safety, okay? So, to... Safety of cyclins... Safety of cyclins... Cyclins... Cyclins... Safety of cyclins... Safety of cyclins... Safety of cyclins... Safety of cyclins... Safety of cyclins... Safety of cyclins... Okay? So maybe we bring in some... three more reasons and then we go in deep in each of them. So more reasons why people don't cycle. Do you guys cycle to work? So why not? Because of this or because any additional reason? Lazy... It's very... Lazy... Yeah, because it takes an effort. That's the reason why I wanted to focus it only in cycling. Because if not we have the personal mobility device... like scooters or whatever that... because lazy they take the dirt. What are the reasons? I want to actually try cycling... for Michael to adjust the amount of space. Okay. And what I found out was I stopped after a while... because I keep working late at night... then I took a cat pole... which means it's not my first cut. Okay? So that's the lack... the dependency on your bike. So whenever you do it you have to do it twice, right? Yes, and so if I could carry my bike with me... it would have been a lot easier. That's the solution as well. You own the bike if it's rental. If it's rental then yes, it's a lot easier. So actually the problem would be ownership... and one of the solution is... So the problem is ownership... or dependency as a problem. Sorry about my writing... I will just... Dependency... maybe... Distance... Distance and laziness... Would you say that are related? Or in your case... if it's one kilometer or something... because maybe it can be related, right? Because... It can be, it may not be... Okay? Okay, we'll put this in polenta. Distance... Okay? The relative cost against public transport... versus money... the cost of money that doesn't make... like a good road bank... when compared to the cost of public transport here... it's the economics of it. Okay? So maybe... we'll start to... we'll hold the brainstorm here for a while... and then we'll go... We'll wait for one more problem of time. So if that's it, I can take a cat five minutes... maybe take me at another ten minutes. Would you relate with this part? It's like partially, it's partially but it's not really. Okay? I think there was a... there was a study that... you know, what kind of... mode of transport... is suitable for a certain distance... Like for example, a car is really inefficient... for like under... five kilometers... and... you know, and that would be like... better for like 5,000 miles. So that kind of... mode of transport, so for bicycles... they are really good for that kind of range... five kilometers. Okay, so... Right, right. Perception and issue with anyone... Perception... Perception of cyclism... to this kind of... Yeah, I think signal what there is. Yeah, let's see how what there is. Perception, okay? Self and title are more... No, it's true because... if you have a bike versus you have a car... even the best of the bikes may not be... acknowledged as such a... item or luxury... as compared to a car... all we understand what is a... Ferrari or a Porsche... You can buy a Porsche designed by... True, true, true... But it's more difficult to spot. It's more difficult to spot. Okay, cool, perfect. Let's gonna... deep in in each of them... So comprehensive public transport... Why is this... a problem versus bike? It's just really convenient... Something that... I'll take you where you want to go. It kind of relates to the time. I'm fast. I'm fast. So actually, in a way, I don't think we need to solve this problem. The problem of the private transport... Like... If you're talking private transport, you are already kind of... Yeah, exactly. Okay, so... Let's gonna put this in a secondary kind of... respect... Bicycle parking. I think you mentioned the bicycle parking, right? So... Why is this a problem? You might have bicycle parking and... but your office... Right, exactly. So why the lack of bicycle parking in your office... is a problem. In terms of... In terms of not even having where to put it... But you put it, yes. Okay. You probably hide it in some... Okay. I hope you'll serve it. In a way, it's like... You might hide it in some... It's like you just do it by a tree. By a tree, by a fence. Yeah, and the other one is... It's just that... It's even impossibility... of putting it very near to your destination. Yes. So how can we solve this? In a... Okay, there are a lot of ways of solving it, right? In... What are the... Economically efficient ways or... Space efficient ways of solving it? Centralize... Buildings... Fold the bike. Okay, foldable bikes. Okay. Yeah, foldable bikes. So instead of solving it when we solve it from the other... So you can bring it to... with you, to your... What do you need? Okay, so actually this links to the... dependency because of ownership, right? So... In a way of rental... Rental bike. So... Of course, if we have... If we have... We could go into detail whether rental is... Fishing or not a fishing from different point of view, but... Okay, perfect. Safety of the cyclist. Why is this a problem? Really? Actually... I may not... I may have no face in property. Why is a problem for the cyclist? Because he can't die, I believe, right? So... Safety of the cyclist, of course. So the one is bike lanes, okay? Is that bike lanes? Lane... Is that bike lanes? No, no, no. So the bikers... The bikers... So they... You know, you understand what I'm saying? Yeah, I think this one may be more... of an issue for pedestrians and for drivers. Yeah, but they... The cyclist... Alright, I expect you... You want to cut out your signals, you know? They don't show the point... We can call it a location, in a way. Correct, yes. Like right of way here, in Singapore, for like cars versus bikes, there's pedestrians... Bikes would have met you, I think. So I said, no... What are the rules of right of way? So there's two different vehicles. And there's sort of laws like in the U.S., like a pedestrian always has a right of way, must have a hard crosswalk with an XP. And cyclists have right of way, and they take priority under certain situations. What's the law like that for bikes here? The rules that you need to... The car needs to stay on what car he does. But otherwise, it's the same rules as a car. Unless they're crossing a road, they have to respond and push there. That's it. Any other solutions for the safety of the cyclists? So location, back lanes? Regulations. Okay. Cyclists should have some sort of... I mean, cars have right of way, etc. Well, they have to have respect for the safety of the cyclists. They have to have respect for the safety of the cyclists. They have to have respect for the safety of the cyclists. I mean, cars have right of way, etc. Well, they have to have respect for the safety of the cyclists. They have to have respect for the safety of the cyclists. Yeah, I'm going to show you. But aren't you have something that's equivalent to a right of way, or something that has an actual right of way? I think that they would have respect for the safety of the cyclists. I mean, by regulation, at night you have to have a right of way. At least to that they don't need to be operable. They are always on hold. And obviously they want to help bike helmets. Helmets. Like mandatory helmets. Is it by regulation that you have to use a helmet here? No, I still can't remove the safety. I don't think it's by regulation at all. The regulations for a bike, right? There is a volunteer and me and the people. So the thing is that so what happens is that we receive police reports and keep you raising the file of the use of the helmet. Above the vehicle, if the mobility vehicle can travel above a certain speed, then they require a license and the owner needs to have pads and a helmet. If not actually, one of our guys came to ask for a key. What is that speed? There's a speeding in the speed. Do you remember? It's 50. 50. You have to be there. Pretty professional. That's pretty fast. Got it. Ok, so maybe we can move on to pedestrians, safety of the pedestrians. As of now, I believe it's allowed to cycle in the footpath. No, cycle is always on the road. But I know that LTA proposes that cyclists are allowed. I don't know when they are going to pass the bill. But it has been already proposed. So if it's not already passed, it's going to be passed soon. So people can cycle on the footpath with certain limitations, with certain speed as well. I thought the footpath is only for mobility devices. And bikes as well. And there, I think you have to go under 15... 15 years. So how do we ensure the safety of the pedestrians? Have a sign that says, watch out for bikes. Don't give me. Signs? Ok, sign more? Mandate a referral on every bicycle so that you can walk the pedestrians when they say they're coming. And on safety you should say that if you hear the bell, please turn around. The pedestrians don't wear your noise-canceling headphones. I'll stop the sale. I'll stop the sale. I think there will be a clearer regulation. In a bike event it's a pedestrian for the very reason. Regulation, it's being repeated. Cool? How are we doing on time? We're skipping the time. Ok, safety of the drivers. Do you try this? No sneaking around. No sneaking? No sneak. So that's education of the cycle, right? Education and regulation should be fun. Ok, regulation. So again regulation, ok? Regulation. I would like to see the statistics or how many accidents do cyclists provoke versus receive. That would be an interesting thing to see whether there is actually a problem or not. Ok? Time. Is it a problem because of course you want to reach earlier to your destination. But actually is it that much of a problem? Time was. How long does it take you guys to reach to work? And how far do you leave from work? More or less. How far do you leave from where you work? How far do you leave from where you work? In terms of kilometers that would be hard to know but in terms of train stations 7 stops. 7 stops. Ok, so I don't think half an hour is not being 10, 15 stops. Well depends on the time of the year as well. I think it depends on the time of the year as well. I have a friend who lives in Dandorou right? So from there is very hard to get public transport. So from there he takes 45 minutes while public transport and I have 30 minutes while cycling. Who goes? So that is easy. My office is at around 6-7 minutes so this time actually in the bike is not there because it's door to door because in my case I have where to park the bike in both case. Do you think it's a consideration of the shower time? I shower in any case at home or I shower in the office? In any case I will shower so if you don't shower in the morning if you shower at night it's true that it will be, you need to factor it in the question. But ok, so this comes back to awareness too, if you have tried you know it, I didn't know it until I tried and then all the questions. Ok, in process of awareness this dance. So I think distance is like, I think what most of it lies is actually if you are short distance you are short distance and try to point at point B below a splinter meter range, cycling will make more sense. But if you are travelling really far, like I stay in the west and my workplace is at Accentra, IKEA, Ecopa, then there's no way that the bike can travel through circle line or downline line. So therefore it doesn't go there. Well I let you have a thought in the question. So yeah true, that's the range, that's the range of them. I think it's a measure of the time when you have something at some other event, right? So if you're going just to and from work, that's fine. Yeah, we put that one under dependency. It was mentioned that sometimes, or you don't feel like biking back, it's dark and I don't feel like, so let's go to dependency now. How to solve the dependency problem? So for example that problem that you mentioned, how we can solve it? When we did the rental bike. How other ways we can solve the dependency? So if you take a taxi home and your bicycle is at MRT in an IMA, I will render your bicycle. Uber, like car. Like car. Like poletí. Like poletí. Like poletí. Like a personal bike. Actually, ok. Why not? It seems like I can just cop that right? Ah, for the cars and... Yeah, for the cars I can just cop that right? It's almost gone. But actually in Sanque where I studied what they had is, in the past now in them until you can bring a foldable bike. So they don't have a foldable bike. In the place where I studied they have racks on the buses. If I don't... In the US as well. So that would be like fitting up buses so they give you a possibility. But that's the possibility only if you want to go back home. If you want to go for an event, for example, you bring it there, you park it there, then you bring it up. It's not so. Ok, but... It's really bulky. No, you can buy the right ones. Then they are not nice. But they are not cheap though. They are not cheap though. More than that if you... One of the interest ones, because I don't think we have that much time, is cost. I think you brought it up right? Public transport is not as expensive as in other countries. Well having a bike it costs a money. So how can we... So the common thing in the US is... or at least what was through my old health insurance was if you buy this to work and said to me by car you got a rebate at the company. You got a rebate but you have your insurance as a grant. Can you do this rebate? Even though in the US most other people are overweight or healthy whatever they come across. Ok, so what is that insurance? That's a pretty cool idea actually. Some other weights. Well it's pretty common to bike in California anyway. I know that some companies they actually pay your bike or subsidize your bike. So people find that like so my mom's where she works for the government in the US and they'll also give you in the year kind of lifestyle bonus or something like that. Ok, so campanipro. Campanipro. Ok, I have a final question and this is the most important question of this whole. We have come with a lot of problems and a lot of solutions. What now? Do you guys know any body that will be interested in hearing this or having this? Ok, TA is one, ok. Can the public approach the TA directly? Yes, you have the right tips. All the right people. You can approach them but you have to get the right people. Got it, ok. Any other weight? Town councils. Some cities, town councils are interested in getting biking or pushing for biking to build their estate. How can this town council do this? They might provide student parking in the places. Actually, I mean how can they see our approach? How can you approach them? You will have like a... Meet the members of the government kind of thing. Meet the people's sessions. Meet the people's sessions. Why are they coming? National parks. National cycle members that covers the island. The route on the island. There's a story growing out to the edge so that will carry to the ring. It's not just a couple. It's also a dozen pages inside. There's a 20-30 kind of plan by the end of the quarter. If you look at it, there's another 20-30 cycle. Yes. I just have a remark. I run from Malaysia so from the age of say 8 to 15, 16, it's very common for us to bike everywhere to go to school, to go to activities. So within the town itself and able to go by groceries is very common. I don't see that in Singapore. What's it? Because the distance is quite short? Not necessarily short. Honestly, I'm trying to... 3 kilometers on bikes. So what I don't see is because in Singapore the perception is for bicycle it's not safe for children to be on bikes outside of a condo state or it's a park. But you compare daily central, it's not really a safe place to bike. It's a different perception. Look at the patio, your schools will then reach the back. But what we are hearing a lot here is about biking to work. What I'm trying to say is that maybe we should be encouraging biking for daily life instead, going for short distances rather than long distances. It's a lifestyle thing. I think we have run out of time. Thank you very much for following your feedback.