 Like I would have to pronounce these right for the kid. I would just always blow it because I'm overthinking it that reminds me my one of my best friends is a history teacher and He asked me my friend Jeff and I were talking to him about September 11th because they're gonna teach that it in his history class. Okay, which we're both like that's yeah Yeah, yeah, but he He said He wanted us to both email him what we told him about being there and where we were he's like, it'll be great stuff for the kids Okay. Yeah, I mean 17 years, right? It isn't like that's crazy. Oh my gosh. Yeah Yeah, it's like that can't be right. You literally will be teaching it to some high school. He's like the sophomores were not alive That is weird to me. Yeah To have a cohort or a group of people that aren't like kids I mean the technically they're kids, but you know, they're old enough They have they have like, you know independent thought and all that but not to be alive when something like there's actually history to them. Yeah Now I know how my my social studies teacher in junior high He was he was of the I was a marine in world war two generation And really when he talked about, you know, world war two it came from a very personal space But like, you know, I was born in the mid 70s So it was like it's it's you know, anything before you were born is always encapsulated as ancient history, right? Ancient chinese Wait, secret, huh? You just used calgon. He used a water softener A water softener And a lot of elbow grease you can bite by the uh, bushel elbow grease I didn't like like I said, we're gonna get a tiny bit of a late start We're waiting for Sarah to come back. I'm gonna go ahead and uh, since you I saw the link. I'm gonna go ahead and sweet that Oh, yeah, please do Please no, hey Lee tick Wait, yeah, there it is. Okay. I'm live Uh, hello Oh Hey guys, can you Yeah, we can hear you. Uh, I don't think you're on your hyal No I do not Uh, that didn't work. Whatever it was I have plenty of time today. So we're good Well, yeah, and roger I I will have to jet out Uh, uh, 230. Um, but we'll just we'll wrap up at 15 after no matter what Okay If we because I if we have to wait too much longer, we're just gonna get started Give her one more one more reboot Because the other thing is she's if she's like me she's gonna be angry at her technology I get so upset when stuff like that goes wrong Just especially when it was working before Well, yeah, that's why I'm so conservative about the setup. I don't add anything to it. I don't change anything I just because once it's working, I don't want to have to be constantly troubleshooting what we're wrong Oh, this is interesting Apple's gonna have their you know streaming on on uh twitter as well You'll be able to watch the live event on the 12th. Oh, that's new. Yeah, just broke Uh, no, they they tweeted that at 726 friend just retweeted. Oh, okay. I didn't see that. Yeah Yeah, that's uh, yeah, that's that's a new you can probably mention that tomorrow Oh Well tomorrow, we'll be doing the show after the announcement. So Wait, what's today? Today's the 11th Wait, so the thing the thing's on the 12th You're right. Okay. I was I was like am I? my awful day Uh Yeah We have it on the calendar on our internal calendar on the wrong day Let me make sure I didn't do that too because Wednesday. Yeah Oops So that'll be with um Scott johnson Oh, that'll be a show uh And then on 19th, I'll have the privilege of forking over more of my money for things that I probably don't need I can't wait Especially there's a new ipad. I'm really trying not to get a new one Yeah, I don't know. I see ipads don't normally come at the same time as iphone. So true true Um, they I think they did it. Did you do it one year or a month? No Yeah, I yeah, they probably usually give you like another month to like so your bills aren't like crazy How how considerate apple? Yeah, they usually do it like an october announcement. You're right. You're right Uh for the ipads. Yeah, so to follow me. I get Spin and get whatever the latest one is Is what we do All righty, um So, yeah, she's got Something going on that is not an easy troubleshoot. So we're just going to go ahead and get started I'll read sarah's stuff until she pops in she'll join us when she can okay You guys ready? Yep. Let's go. Yes. All right Here we go and three two This is the daily tech news for monday september 10th 2018 in los angeles. I'm tom merit Also in los angeles. I'm lamar wilson and I'm roger chang the producer of the show Excellent. Uh, thanks everybody for joining us sarah lane Having some technical difficulties. Hopefully she'll be jumping in uh shortly and you'll hear her later in the show But let's start with a few tech things you should know Analyst ming chi kuo says his sources indicate the next version of the ipad pro will switch to usbc Now lots of folks have speculated apple would switch the cable in its ios devices So it would go lightning to usbc instead of lightning the usb a which it does now But kuo specifies the entire io will change that'd be big Yeah, that would be big one plus confirm that it's one plus six t phone We'll have an under display fingerprint reader significant because currently only phones from vivo and one special mate rs Model from huawei use an in-display fingerprint reader one plus is expected to launch the phone in october After a report on the malware bytes form researchers have confirmed that two apps from trend micro doctor On a archiver. I did it and dr. Cleaner uploaded browser history from safari chrome and firefox This is similar to what edward doctor was found doing the apps have been removed from the mac app store Ah, yes, so the uh, the the fate continues and now with trend micro. I mean, they're not a fly-by-net company So this is they've been around for years. Yeah. Yeah, this is uh, this is a little concerning that this is happening All right, let's talk a little bit more about smartwatches and processors my favorite Qualcomm unveiled his new smartwatch chipset first tease and i o called the snapdragon wear All three models have revamped architecture that integrates with google's wear os The new chipset is better enabled to handle background tasks and is more powerful than the wear 2100 line and four a7 cpus A dsp and an ultra low power co-processor Now oh, yes, i'm good. No, I was just gonna say I I like that we're finally seeing a A watch specific processor made in the in the past the qualcomm processors were Pretty much adapted mobile processors and now they're doing things with these multiple cores The reason they have four a7 cpus is some of them are ultra low power Because they're finding that you know people don't use their watches constantly like they do their phones Most of the time they just need to show the time and maybe some notifications And and the amount of times you need to actually interact with it is probably not enough to warrant four equally powerful cores Yeah, I thought it was interesting to see if what five but we use a watch is five percent of the time Which I was thinking about like that's probably true I mean I have the doing things for me like heart rate tracking and things, but yeah I'm probably not looking at it that often one of the cool features of this Is uh There's a regular watch mode that it'll be able to switch to so like if you Let's say you're down by you know the what what is it 20 minutes or two hours of time? You're 20 remaining Uh, you can switch it to that watch only mode and you'll get another two weeks A week or two out of the device and if it's like you want to do it completely from 100 percent And they say like 30 days. Yeah, 30 days of power. That's amazing And not that you do either one, but it's nice to know that when you get down to 20 percent You can say yeah, just go to watch mode. So I don't lose Functionality it doesn't just turn into a blank black box on my wrist, which happens all the time with this beautiful thing Oh, does it? Yeah. Yeah Good enough to get me through a day But if I forget to charge it then yeah, then I'm I'm out out of luck and the other thing I have in here is a Sport mode where it will just use the cores to power gps and tracking And not make all the other stuff available from the watch Again, so if you forget to charge you might still have enough battery left to get you through a workout without having to Lose all your data from that tracking. Well, I don't have to worry about the workout part. So, yeah Because you're just naturally fit. I get that there you go Uh blare 11 and larry downs right in the harvard business review that even though google fiber has paused rollouts And is often seen as a failure It succeeded in pioneering new ways of working with local authorities to get networks built Local authorities became more willing to negotiate prices permitting and fees It also encouraged competition accelerating fiber deployments by as much as two years by some estimates And it caused investors to become more supportive of capital expenditures. Remember horizon stopped rolling out fiber because of investor pressure Uh leaven and down right authorities are finding as with google fiber that they must offer competitive rates or risk delaying Private investment in new networks a critical source of local development and competitiveness And we're seeing the effects of this change of attitude In 5g rollouts Yeah, I've always had trouble with this this whole concept. We have a failure Like you know because they pause something it's seen as a failure What what google did was push the competitors to get their act together they and obviously it wasn't completely altruistic They the more the faster the internet is the more people will access google and their services I mean we know the end result but because of that comp cas got got in there, but at&t Uh time warning now spectrum. They all got themselves together and rolled out a way ahead of the the deadline By 2016 they were rolling out Uh, I think the deadline was 2020 and they exceeded that by four years. So Uh google if anything just just pushed Uh these networks and they made the whole regulation and process easier So you don't have to go through all this paperwork you did with one central person Uh, you know the permits are easier. So I think they set a standard I think there's nothing to be said of them being a failure because of this. I don't agree with that Yeah, and I I like what leaven and downs were saying that you know, whether it was intentional or not And they suspect it might have been intentional google's main idea in getting into google fiber was To get more people hooked up to fast internet so they could use more google services Whether it's youtube or nest thermostats or whatever Uh, and and that has worked. There are more fast connections out there even if they're not being run by google I I like you lemar. I I think it was an intentional pause It fits in with the strategy of saying hey, we're starting to see a lot more competition roll out Maybe we don't need to be plowing ahead as much But also I wouldn't be surprised to see google get into 5g deployments And get into to wireless deployments if they feel like it's moving too sluggishly. Yeah, I agree with it Yeah, it's it's it's a it's a great piece if you want to go check it out at hbr.org That's our business review. We'll have a link in the show notes as well Yeah, alibaba's 54 year old co-founder jack ma will step down as chairman next year on september 10th to focus on philanthropy and education Alibaba's ceo daniel jong the man who brought china singles day is taken over as chairman and he'll stay ceo as well Singles day if you haven't been following dts or you don't realize is the biggest shopping day in the world And and daniel jong was running team all which alibaba owns and had taken it from being a web destination to a mobile destination and it blew up and singles day was Taking this day november 11th 1111 And marketing it at first towards people who are single Uh to try to you know, stoke some love interest by giving gifts now. It's well beyond that premise And it's just this Gargantuan shopping day. I mean amazon day Forget it. It's nothing compared to singles day singles day is a bigger shopping day than any holiday in any country anywhere It's crazy. I didn't know that and i'm glad that there's a day for me and for the rest Gifts were from last november. I demand to know now. I saw i read this article about this guy He's he's pretty fascinating. Uh first of all the fact that he's stepping back at such a young age at 54 for ceo to step I is is young But he recognized that the that the uh management needs to be younger to make the company progress faster So I don't know to me that feels like that takes a little bit of humility I don't I don't know the guy personally You know, I don't know you know if he's a scoundrel or whatever But you know, the the fact that he is chosen to step back and kind of work on some other efforts It's like bill gates did back in the day Uh, it's commendable and isn't he like like he's been in pop bands and like this guy He dances in pop bands. He's been in some movies Yeah, he's got a combination of bill gates and paul allen Paul allen was in the bands and everything else is bill gates. I guess but yeah, uh, it's he's a visionary I mean he he Decided in the 90s that he was going to take on silicon valley at a time when people were like china take it on silicon valley You got to be crazy and uh crazy like a fox apparently It has absolutely worked out. No another article that's that's absolutely worth Checking out and a big big deal Like if again, if you don't realize alibaba is one of the largest companies in the world Certainly one of the largest if not the largest in china and jack ma is generally credited with being the bill gates of china With being the guy who who made that happen? And and so him stepping down is absolutely as big of a deal. Oh, yeah sleeping microsoft Yeah, I thought it was uh fascinating and i've learned a lot about alibaba I've heard the name of course we've talked about in the show before but i've never Really sat down and and you know figured out what they do and who they are and it's like wow You know, it's not just about amazon and microsoft, you know, there's a bigger world outside of the us Oh, yeah, yes, uh speaking of which Yeah Here in india So indian startup nice cell retail has launched his first cash your free store What a sale and coachy india Customers can scan their what a sale app on the way in and a combination of sensors computer vision and ai keep track of what they Have when they walk out and automatically charges them if the pilot goes well, what a sale plans to expand To bangalore and deli so what a sale what a app, right? Yeah, right I mean, it's interesting in a couple ways first of all I think a lot of people thought well only amazon has the secret sauce to make this work And we talked about other companies that were doing this at the time So we've known that there were other folks trying this But this one I think the thing that intrigues me is not just that they've got one up and running. It's not just planned And they they've got plans for expansion, which is normal But they want to do franchising and that's a thing that I don't see amazon getting into That's where a startup can be a lot more nimble amazon wants to control everything Right because the whole point is to get people to continue to buy money on amazon.com Whereas what a sale can say yeah, no, we can set you up like a mcdonald's would set somebody up with a restaurant Here's all the pieces go and run it and they potentially can expand a lot faster in this particular industry Yeah, I was reading they wanted to Put these in apartment buildings, which you know, just like maybe a micro store Yeah, yeah, and and even like Going directly to farmers, which I thought was fast and just bypassing the the big stores and their stores themselves You know and having the farmers sell their goods directly like a farmers market. Absolutely. Yeah And so yeah to me I think they're yeah, they're doing what amazon's doing sure amazon was first But you know, they have a billion people in India. They're they're trying to find a Way to to manage efficiency and it seems like they're they're kind of ahead of amazon right now Yeah, and I don't even know if amazon was the first with this kind of store I mean there were there were companies in china doing it as well. They were a tiny bit different There's been companies in japan that do it a little bit different amazon Maybe the first that that really said there's no need to talk to a person at all But the fact that we're already seeing other companies execute this and we'll see how well it works out They're just starting. Maybe it maybe it won't work as well As it should I know it took amazon a lot longer than they thought to launch but yeah I I am very curious to see if this now Where it goes from how are they possibly going to pull that off to oh, yeah, we see these all over the world Yeah, absolutely An opinion piece from sociologist christopher a bail in sunday's new york times discusses research into political polarization on twitter And I had to include this in the show because that is my my big axe to grind is sure stuff is happening on twitter It's happening on facebook. What effect does it have? Well bail actually studied the issue By forcing 1200 republicans and democrats To see and interact with opposing views on twitter. He created some bots That that tweeted legitimate stories to people Challenging their viewpoints and he found that doing so made people more entrenched in their existing views rather than changing their minds This is what you need to study it because a common sense approach maybe to say well You know what we need to do we need to make sure that everybody sees more diverse points of view So they don't get locked in but what he found is when you force that You actually push people farther into their viewpoints. You don't change their minds So bail suggests that alerts that make people aware that they might only be getting one point of view Might be better than forcing those point of views at them Let them go out and choose to diversify Then they might actually be willing to open their mind and change their minds or perhaps exposing people to particular issues Rather than particular Sources though instead of saying hey conservative I'm going to put the new york times in your feed whether you like it or not Or i'm going to put the daily caller in your feed whether you like it or not liberal You just expose people to issues that they might not be exposed like let's put some more climate change stuff Let's put some more tax cut stuff and that would be better than broadly forcing exposure to alternative viewpoints Yeah, and I think this this stems from jack dorsey being on on the hill last week He literally said that you know, this is one of the things they want to do And so this guy was you know had to make this opinion piece and they've been researching this long before you got on the hill It's like, yeah, you can do that but here are the consequences of it. You know, I use google news of the new app and I do like to give me the main headline and there's two or three other Uh opinions there or other articles that I may not look at and you know, but they're secondary and I like that approach Some people may see that as polarizing if you don't like fox news You don't want to see fox news. Yeah in your feed at all. So they you know, there's still some work to be done with that for sure Yeah, and I just I I can't emphasize enough how much I want Uh studies to be done to find out what the effects of the stuff is first before prescribing a solution Because of stuff like this i'm not saying there isn't a problem It's that you need to know what the nature of the problem is and what effects Trying to change it has before maybe you end up making the problem worse even though you thought you were making it better Hey, folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines dot com All right, whatever you believe about crypto coins. It's a solid fact that they're not stable According to data from blockchain. I know right shocker uh blockchain research unit dire diar Says the most coins suffer from arbitrary supply inflation or massive degradation and purchasing power even the most stable currency which is bitcoin Has year-to-date inflation of 50 percent Meaning it's not a great store of value for hedging against inflation. Some folks turn to coins like nano or iota or Cousordano, which have a predetermined generation algorithm preventing an increase in supply Uh, but there's a couple of new efforts that just got approval in the state of new york Gemini trust and paxo trust are what are called stable coins The idea is that you link the currency to An actual fiat currency in this case. They're both linked to the us dollar the gemini dollar developed by cameron and tyler winklevoss Yes, those winklevi Is pegged at one dollar per coin and trades on the ethereum blockchain So one gemini means one gemini dollar is one us dollar Gemini will also hold dollars in a federally insured bank so you can sort of by transitive Consider your dollars fdic insured and the paxos coins will also be pegged to the dollar on a one-to-one basis they have a little bit different way of storing them though and The insider reports city group is planning to introduce something called digital asset receipts now This is a wonky financial thing. I'm not going to try to even explain it because I don't understand it But it allows investors to buy and trade cryptocurrencies on regulated markets. That's the part. I do understand It says look you want to trade cryptocurrency? But you don't want to be an unregulated wild west Do it with a digital asset receipt in a traditional marketplace that is regulated by the us government You won't own the cryptocurrencies directly That they'll be held by an organization that does and you're getting a receipt That has value related to them Granted i'm sure a bunch of you have a question like really how's that supposed to work The practice is exactly similar to an american depository receipt, which has been around since the 1920s and is used to trade non us stocks in the us So just just for the moment except like okay, they do this already with stocks So they'd be doing it with cryptocurrency both all three of these stories. I think are indications that cryptocurrency may not be stable And people may not be sure exactly how to work with it But so many people want to That solutions are being tried here Yeah, I'm glad you were here to explain all All this so I just have more of a philosophical view of this, uh, you know, I've I've tried to understand cryptocurrency. There's so many different ones out there Um, I I think the insub instability with cryptocurrency is Understandably like why investors big or small, you know, even if you or I got in it Uh, why they played a short game because you know, they get in and get out because it and that just adds to the instability So, you know, if you're really passionate and you're really serious about the regulation Uh, government I have in control of of the money. I I think you know, there's a Or measure of of patience and loan game and education really I think education on what all of these are. I mean in this story alone These three stories you mentioned at least five different five or six different currencies out there and You know, it's it's confusing You try to understand it and the the the serious person that you're really serious about this government thing and and controlling the money you have to understand that money is power and government so like This is this is serious stuff. That could I mean, this is a world war type of things we're talking about here We're serious about it. So it's it's important for everybody to to really understand and educate myself included I'm not very educated in it. Uh, and I feel the need because it's so serious and because it's not going anywhere That's the thing, right? It's not everybody thought. Wow. This is a passing fad, right? This is going to be like, you know dot-coms. It's going to blow up and then fade away and maybe something will come out of it but It does not seem to be that way. It's funny at my 30th high school class reunion this weekend I was talking to one of my classmates Angie's husband who is a cryptocurrency minor Uh in southern Illinois like he has got a warehouse. He is serious about this. He walked me through it He's got a warehouse with I don't know how many machines 30 50 something like that That he's got cameras on that he can monitor and he he went online while we're he was just showing me it And he's like, oh three of these boxes are offline like hold on. Let me find out what's going on and reboot them And he you know, and of course his wife also We're asking like is this really going to pay off and he's like, well, what do you think like nobody knows Right now it's it's not a bad bet because if it pays off it pays off big, right? It's it's like Panning for gold, you know, you you you may have a claim that busts out Or you may end up retiring rich These are the kinds of stories I look at that say well Yeah, not any particular cryptocurrency may be the one you could end up being involved in the wrong ones But it does look like something is going to come out of cryptocurrency not just blockchain I've been saying blockchain is going to last for a long time But cryptocurrency starts to look like one of these may may end up working out Bitcoin being very stable relatively speaking is a good sign for it And everybody doing things on ethereum like the Winklevoss doing the the dollar to dollar pegged currency Is is a is a positive sign as well Yeah, what what do you see in terms of I mean, we're just projecting at this point like right like, you know Not necessarily who's the winner, but like are we turning we have to mention patience? Are we turning three to five years? Are we talking 10? Yeah before it settles down At least five would be my guess before it before it takes out, you know Stranger things have happened But I would say five to 10 is my gut feeling just then just a gut feeling not not based on any kind of rigorous analysis or anything Yeah, exactly. Uh, but I I find it an important milestone that we're seeing state approved dollar linked crypto Because even though that gets rid of a lot of the advantages of crypto, which is you know, like, hey This is a free coin that can be traded carry its own value It will allow people to get into some of the other advantages that are online and public ledger And trade without worrying about the fluctuations without worrying about that instability And and if i'm not mistaken the one city city group was doing wasn't that going to be fdic insured as well No, that's the winkelvoss ones. That's okay because the dollars are held by a bank Uh, even though you're you traded your dollar for a winkelvoss. What is the coin called gemini? The dollars are held by a bank. So those dollars are fdic insured and and and basically what gemini is saying is We guarantee that for every gemini you hold will have a dollar for you over here and that's insured I wouldn't buy them if they were called the winkelvoss coins. I'm just being honest I didn't have winkel coins or something. I could be I know they have the winkel decks Uh, which I look at every once in a while. All right. Well, thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit You can submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit.com and facebook.com groups slash daily tech news show Uh, the summer break is over. We're very excited that Nate Langston and text message is back. Let's find out what's in store Roger We can't hear what's in store Which store What a sale thanks guys. We took a bit of a summer hiatus But we're back in the podcasting saddle and this week We think it's worth you guys knowing that in europe later this year Boxed retail copies of video games will carry a printed warning that they contain in-app purchases Right next to the icons that currently warn about violence sexual Racist or drug related content We talk about why and what effect this might have on the industry over here As well as the rest of the week's british technology news that should hopefully Give our american friends a little extra context about the week's events in the tech world That's available now at tech podcast dot uk Ah, so good to hear date's voice again So weird to be thinking about labels On boxed copies of video games and then does people buy box copies still? I guess they do I mean, I mean, that's my world. So yeah, I'm definitely listening to that You don't you don't download you buy box copies No, I'm just saying the gaming world. Yeah. Yeah. Oh god. No, I I No, that's what I would say like I guess that if people still buy in boxes. All right Well, I'm very happy to say that it is now time to check out the mail bag And uh, let's uh, see what kevin had to say feedback at daily tech news show dot com kevin toppenberg Who's a family physician md has thoughts on our humanity app discussion of allowing consumers to have legal control over their medical information? That was from friday's show Among as many good insights he said HIPAA laws prevent health care providers from releasing information in many situations with fines Ranging from a hundred dollars per violation per patient for first time offenses up to 50 000 dollars per Violation per patient for willful neglect that is not connected in an appropriate time Nevertheless in 2017 there were 1 579 data breaches exposing 179 million patient records So while HIPAA has had a chilling effect for providers wanting to jump into data sharing in the medical field I would argue there is still work to be done now regarding ownership of patient data I would point out that data is not a thing where only one person can possess it This is a really good point. He says yes It is true that patients have a right to access a copy of all their medical data But they don't own it in the sense that they have full Control of it for example if a patient disclosed use of illegal drugs to a doctor and it was put in the record They cannot come back later and demand to have that deleted Which made me think what if we have a right to be forgotten dispute on our hands in the future over medical data Back to kevin. He said thus both the doctor and the patient both have ownership I own my patient's records in the sense that I have the right and responsibility of maintaining them They are my defense against any claims of malpractice But my patients also own them in that they can obtain a copy of them at any time These are great points and it doesn't mean that you can't own your medical data And it doesn't mean that efforts like humanity aren't worth Like pursuing to give you more control over your data and and legal emphasis of it But it is like anything else in that it is infinitely copyable So nefarious people can once they have a copy of your data never give it up And there's these other issues which I didn't even think about that kevin brought up where the doctor has a right To your data because it is in the doctor's best interest that she have that to protect herself or protect you Yeah, I'm fine with the the concept of of having the the copies. I think I just I just want access and you know 10 20 years ago. You just didn't have as easy access yet to ask for facts and Yeah, right, you know, and now you know, I happen to be with a hospital group where that has uh, that could you know Connects online to the apple Apple health which makes it easy for me. Just you know just to see all the all the data there That I think that's all people ask if I think most people understand that it's a copy But we just want the copy so we can have control of it Well, Lamar wilson a pleasure as always having you on today My friend let folks know uh where they can find out more about what you've got going on Well on my youtube i'm more of in late as i mentioned earlier in the gaming realm But you uh, if you like all things gaming the tendo xbox and mark itself giving away, uh, that's the xbox and mark itself okay, so Which i'm actually giving giving away a uh, sony ps4 of the spiderman edition So that's happening through tomorrow So if you're interested in any kind of video game stuff check out on youtube youtube.com slash lamar wilson You want to know more about me as a person? Uh, check out my instagram at lamar wilson You know, um, I thought of you because you you're you have in the past done a lot of unboxing of snacks I know yes, uh I one of my friends works for mars and at my high school reunion. He gave me a bag of future flavors of candy I'll be over to secrecy. I'll be over. Yeah. I mean if you just See him line on my counter. What am I gonna do right? Yes? I cannot wait Uh, check it out folks youtube.com slash lamar wilson. There's two r's in lamar and twitter.com slash lamar wilson as well Thanks to everybody who supports this show. 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Oh Just in time Yes, no, I mean I I've been here for a while, but like I've got a whole thing going on now I know like windows machine and everything dog. It's so weird I saw you and I was about to toss the email to you. I know I know She's not ready. So I know you were doing that, but I was like I was so afraid because I wasn't able to test So, you know, I was glad you did that rather than me tossing to you and having it not ready So I figured I just it was just safer to just finish the show at that point Oh, man. I don't know What has happened? I the good thing is your mic is not dead. It's just yeah, you sound fine now I know what it is. I figured it out. You did Is it is it for a while? I thought that it was the log attack It's this it's this it's my little usb slash ethernet slash usb The hub that I got it's peoples It must have This this is the problem. Okay, because I'm no longer using this and I'm on my windows and you're fine. Everything's fine I'm so sorry you guys. Well, that was your problem. You didn't you had to switch the windows I tried to come through No, it's coming back to windows, doesn't it? No, thank goodness you were here, Lamar. Like yeah, Lamar. Thank you so much I am so sorry guys. No, no I I could hear the the majority of the show that was the funny part Like I was actually kind of like my audio was sort of working but every time I anyway, it's not worth explaining Oh, man, I feel so bad. Oh, please don't please don't. Um I trust that you all had a lovely conversation Well, it wasn't as lovely as it would have been had you been involved Very good. Well, thank you very much. Um, well, I'm here now especially because I know you had a lot to say about crypto Like for the for the post show like You want to throw out? Well, I you know again sort of having missed the fun discussion of it all I I I find it fascinating that um, you know the sort of crypto like pro warehouse thing exists and how does it exist and how do you compete with You know server firms, you know overseas that are you know cranking out a lot The the whole idea is that you or I there there is no reason for us to mine crypto anymore Can't be done Not a good use of our money and time right but but but if you can figure that out and keep costs down and figure How to process a lot of things in a short amount of time Then maybe it still is advantageous. I want to know who those people are And that's that's what I was talking to my classmate my former classmates Husband about is he's he's living that question right now like he's sunk so much He's like I don't want to get stuck on the sunk cost fallacy But you know, I'm he's like I I can't decide if I just need to keep Pushing over the hill and then it will all pay off or if I'm throwing good money after bad So he's like this is an investment. Yeah, exactly. Uh-huh. Well, okay What do you think sammy? No He says crypto is not for me I like gemini the same side of two coins Okay I like to want to say I'll what nap but gemini the same side of the two coins also works All right, what if you want to give any shouts out to any of the other uh google fiber too fast to fail Cashiers being cashed out No, but you're gonna still need security people just kind of watch Shelly bovis jack ma says ellie bye bye I have a cashier story from this weekend. Oh big deal. You spent cash So I go, uh, I did this 4k run with my sister And uh the day before I met her for lunch and she introduced me. She's like, oh, this is my friend vicki She's gonna be going on the the 5k run with us. Did I say 4k? Yeah I was like 5k Much better-looking than 4k. That's a proud run proud run Yeah, um and and so I was like, oh vicki nice to meet you And then as we were going to lunch my sister's like, do you do you recognize vicki? I was like Kind of maybe I don't know. She's like she used to work at super value I'm like, oh the lady with the baseball cards Like when I was growing up My mom would buy me baseball cards at the super value grocery store and vicki was the person who would cash us out So I always had positive associations with her as like she's the lady that sells the baseball cards to us So I can get them Uh, and then we go on this 5k run, uh, and we're sitting afterwards talking She's retiring and I'm like, well, you're retiring early. She's like, no, I'm 65 Like how is that possible? I mean first of all she doesn't look that 65 But also she like set the pace for the 5k run that I was, you know, right? Yeah, she's like, um I could do a 5k drive I can run a 5k. That would be something I could do. Yeah I don't know I run a 10 minute mile. I mean, I'm a bad runner. I just don't have a ton of endurance. Like I would run a 4 minute mile. Come on Really No, I I would say a half marathon would be Pushing it and a full marathon is something that I've never ever thought was possible in my human body Yeah, I mean, it probably is possible. It probably is but I'm not it's just It's so far beyond what my comfort zone is of running. I just got you, you know, 26 miles at once That's that's funny when we started shows to watch when we started the 5k We saw the mile 13 because that because it's the for the end of the half marathon people and we're like, oh, wow 13 miles Yeah, 13 miles would be that would be a lot achievement for me That would be a lot. Yes. What do you think sammy? I can I'll walk 13 miles before I run it But if you walk it takes so much longer Yeah, but you know what you take in the scenery and you kind of kind of think about life and you're placing it I mean, are you about to say a back in my day? I walk 13 miles to school Oh, no Traits of modesto No, no, I well, I lived in san francisco and I was like You know when I went to junior high, but I walked two miles to school up a hill literally a physical hill But it was easier to come at home because it's not a virtual one a physical In san francisco, the hills are all very real very real my school is at the top of the hill So I had to go up 19th and then tarravel and then up What school did you go to? I went to um pervert hoover jr. High. Oh In your hill it needs it needs to be hill if it's at the top of hill That's how they don't tell you that so kids attend Wasn't that school sort of like at the top of a like a hill? Well, yeah Yes No, but like it was like not a reservoir, but um Reservation was it was next to a reservoir. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I know it's like if you're not in san francisco this if you're not familiar with san francisco The city actually has a bunch of reservoirs in the city in the city. Yeah, yeah to maintain water pressure But also because of earthquakes um in san francisco Is naturally a very dry place because there's no natural water other than the salt water that surrounds it It's rocky It's not for human habitation Which is why they built there Is the school still called herbert hoover elementary? Really? No, no jr. High I went to a Catholic school for first Herbert hoover and san francisco Yeah, but that school was established. Yeah, no, I know it's like I remember no I remember going to the school. There's like, you know the first floor. There's a little uh picture kind of photo Thing explaining who herbert hoover was and is you know, his legacy Which depending on who you ask it either be hooverville's or yeah, just a mediocre republican president I would think that the current administration must not be as interested in Whitewashing his legacy as perhaps the founders had been Wait, oh, you mean the founders of the uh junior of the school. Yeah, I would say the founders of the country think they came a lot Two years before a couple years They would have known him, but uh, there are more founders than just the founders of the united states of work. Yes Hey, roge has little jesse doing She's good. She's still wrinkly. Hopefully she'll fill fill in like butterfly wings, do you? I'm sure she will sure she will He is you're so literal when it comes when it comes to the it's alive. It's wrinkly It breathing it. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for asking sara. She's alive She hasn't got a job yet She's got to take the sat and hopefully at some point the l sat or maybe the g-matte Business or graduate school But i'm giving her a success perm Here's your here's your fast track. It'll be like a chinese takeout menu Thanks It's time you gotta run right? Uh, no, no, no, i'm good, but we should uh End the post show which is a little abbreviated, but we had a longer pre-show. So uh, thanks everybody for watching the video Y'all are great and uh audio folks stick around. There's more to come