 Hello and welcome everybody. I just want to let you know we'll get started in a few minutes. We're just going to give people a little bit more time to join and we'll start shortly. Okay, well I'm going to go ahead and get started. I'm Jen Santos, Deputy Director for the City of Santa Rosa Parks. And as people are joining, we're just going to be going over some basic information as we get started. Welcome to the Dutch floor. Park master plan virtual meeting. Second in a series of three meetings. And I wanted to introduce the folks that are on your screen as well tonight that are helping us. We have two of our park planners. Andrew and Tim Bernard that'll be helping us behind the scenes to work the questions and answers and assist us during the meeting to help with the virtual production of this meeting. We also have Haley Watterson from plural landscape architecture studios that will be leading most of the presentation tonight. So let's go ahead and start with the next slide. So, I also wanted to do some housekeeping here and read you some of the information we have before we get too far along to please silence your phones all of our panelists and presenters, and keep your microphones muted if not speaking. The speakers of the public joining this meeting will have webcams and microphones muted. If you're phoning in to join the meeting and you choose to speak during the public comments portion of the agenda. For privacy concerns the host will rename you to caller and only show the last four digits of your phone number. Additionally the city of Santa Rosa is committed to providing a safe and inclusive environment, free from disruption and will not tolerate hateful speech or actions. Everyone is expected to participate respectfully or if necessary the meeting will end immediately. I'm going to turn it over to our host Bernard to explain how public comments will be heard at today's meeting. 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There's also an opportunity to ask questions throughout the presentation with the Q&A feature in your zoom menu or toolbar and typing in a question. The host will keep an eye on these questions and will answer them in writing as time allows or will ask the presenters to answer them live at intervals throughout the presentation. Any questions not answered during the presentation will be addressed during the questions and public comment portion of the presentation. Thank you host Bernard. I appreciate it. And so if any of you've been able to read what we have on this slide here. This is our agenda of what we're going to go over tonight but I just wanted to thank you. First of all for being here tonight and taking time out of your busy schedules to help us decide how to move forward with Dutch floor. Tonight's going to be really exciting because we get to see what some of the comments and survey results were from our last meeting. I think it's going to be really fun tonight. And so let's just go through the agenda we've made our introductions and we'll go over other project goals and objectives overall as a reminder and we'll look at the schedule again. And of course we're going to review our results from the previous meeting and all of the online survey results. And then we're going to take a look at what sort of master plan options. The plural landscape architecture studio has put together for us based on all of the feedback we've received. And we're going to look at playground options as well. And of course we have question and answer period. Let's talk about what is next after this meeting. And I'll just give you a little bit of a heads up in that direction that we are planning a third meeting that will essentially present all the information we collect tonight as well as an additional online survey. And we'll remind you of that again as we get towards the end. So let's let's go ahead and get started with the next slide. This is just a little reminder. This is a map of the city of Santa Rosa, and that the city of Santa Rosa isn't divided into can be and it is for us administratively divided into four quadrants. And each of these quadrants are the park development impact fees quadrant as well. So when we have development in these quadrants for residential units they have an option to provide city with park land, or in lieu fees. And in this case we've collected in lieu fees, and we're able to move forward with updating Dutch floor community park. So the fees that are collected each of these quadrants remain to be used for updating or expanding or creating new parks and Dutch floor was on our top of the list. And so here we are. This is the second in a series of three meetings. And it's just this map is just basically the entire, the entire city here with a star where you can see Dutch floor. And if you can also see on some of these some parts of the city the trees the red trees. Those trees are identified in the general plan as locations where we could place new additional parks. And so we've got a few in zone one, which is where Dutch floor is that. And one more in zone three and the majority of them in zone two and a little bit in zone four. So you can really see how the city is developed over the years so we just wanted to give you the bigger picture there in case you have any questions. We'll go to the next slide. And so I'm going to turn it over to Haley, and she'll take you through what we're going to do tonight. Thanks Jen. Good evening everyone. Thanks for coming. We're excited to share what we've been up to over the past couple of months since we met with you all last. I just wanted to start off to talk about our overarching goals and objectives for for the park and what we're focused on here. You know, more than anything we want to create a safe and welcoming park and playground. And that means updating the playground to meet the latest kind of safety standards and playground playing innovations. To improve the connectivity, accessibility and usability of the entire park, the ability to kind of move through the park on accessible paths. And then of course we're always thinking about making beautiful places. So we want to preserve the beauty that the park already has with the many mature trees and beautiful lawns, and really build on that. So we want to make sure that the quality is that are already there. And to do that will be really focused on updating the two playgrounds that are there currently and creating more connectivity between them, which we talked a little bit about during the first community meeting. We'll be updating the adult fitness offerings at the park. We'll be looking at updates to the paths to ensure that they're all accessible and meet the ADA standards. And then some of the other park infrastructure that comes along with updating a park, improving the drainage, new irrigation systems, new furnishings and things like that. And just to give you a sense of where we are in this process. We're at the very beginning in the first phase, which we'll call in the master plan and the community engagement phase. We started in February and we'll be working through this phase until until the summer. We're here with you today at our second community meeting our first community meeting was in February. And the third community meeting will be sometime in early summer. And as will be a couple of other points where we'll be presenting the master plan will be a board of community services meeting and city council meeting. And then from there we will move into creating the documents that tell contractors how to build the park. Moving to those phases first there's the 30 and 60% construction sets. Early, you know, late summer early fall zone of 2021. And from there we'll move into the last phase of documentation and hopefully wrapping that up in late 2022. From there the project will get bid by 20 years and hopefully we can start construction and sometime in 2022. And as you all know these are our draft schedules schedules are can change for various reasons but this is kind of the general sense of the flow of the project. So we met with you last glass community meeting was on February 18, we met here on zoom, we had 34 attendance attendees. And then we also put the same survey and presentation that was shown in community number one online, and through that online survey we had 53 respondents. Great showing and great feedback and we'll go through some of the results that we heard here together. So we, we had a couple of site organization options that we showed that options for where the playgrounds are located and how the fitness areas relate to those. And in the community meeting there was a pretty strong preference for option C that had both playgrounds right next to each other. So very results echoed that same result. And when you combine the results it was kind of an overwhelmingly preference for option C. And so that is the way we've, we've started to study the master plan options. And then the question that we asked was trying to get a sense of the look and feel that people preferred. options for natural base play structures for sculptural artful play structures, themed options, more modern approaches and then the traditional post and platform structures. And there's a pretty good spread here, but in both the community meeting and the online survey there was a preference for traditional and natural. But they, there was also interest in the sculptural and themed as well. So we've looked at ways to combine some of these options that we'll see a little bit later presentation. Again, here's the combined results. We also heard in the open opportunities to provide comment that sand was really important and swing swings zip lines and climbing and accessibility or all things people wanted us to consider. We also asked people what their favorite playground components were, and we asked to pick three. Again, the community meeting results and online survey results were pretty aligned in what we can. Let me show you the combined results to see those together. Slides and gliders swings climbing in motion where the big standouts, followed by towers and the bars hanging sensory narrative and learning play. And as you know some of these things crossover and can and meet multiple of these kind of play components together and in the same elements. So we've been looking at that too. And again we heard from here in the open response how important sand and climbing and swings are. So the next several questions that we asked were about who we were talking to who was taking the survey. And we were delighted to hear that. Almost everybody is right around the neighborhood. In the Northwest quadrant and a few in the Northeast and other parts of the city. And here's that combined results with 80% of the respondents from the Northwest quadrant. And then we asked people how they heard about the meeting. A lot of folks heard about it on the city connection. And we also got great showing from them by Ella elementary school so thank you everyone who's been connected to the elementary schools with us and in this process. And a few other from the postcards as well. This is the combined results. We also asked how often people came to the park, and I know it aligns with where people live people are coming here where we seem to be talking to people who are pretty active users of the park. So that's really great to hear. The last question was how far we that people traveled to use the park. And again, it really aligns with what we heard in terms of where people live that we're talking to 63% are within a five it's a minute walking. 14% within a five to 10 minutes driving. So it's great that we are getting reaching out to the real park users in the neighborhood. And the last piece, you may have, you may remember from the first committee meeting as that we did a little bit of work with the elementary school that's adjacent to us there was an all school project where they, the classes got together and did some drawings and illustrations or writings, even some precedent imagery collection of what they would like to see in their playground about some really great responses. And we've made a word cloud here that takes the pieces of those drawings and information that we got from the school and collects them here. So the bigger words and the word cloud represent the most common elements that were shown in the drawings so swings climbing slides, trees and glass and grass I love that folks are really thinking about what makes parks great trees and grass and things like that so that was really great to see and aligns with what we heard from the community as well. So this is a summary page showing what we heard, and we put this together to really help us chart out where we're going to next going to next, and the master plan options that we were going to study. So with the site organization. This was the option that was most favored with the play spaces, mostly pretty connected to each other with the fitness. Moving adjacent to it one of the things we heard as a side note to this option see was to try to get the adult fitness a little bit closer so there was visual connection between the playground and the fitness. So that's one alteration that we made to this option see. And then in terms of the character we, we wanted to start combining some of the interests to find ways to make really engaging kind of approaches to the playground. So, we looked at providing play structures that could be maybe done in natural materials using maybe the rabbinia logs, but could be done in a natural in the traditional kind of system with the post and platform structures. We've also looked at. Is there a way to do more the traditional structures that can be a little bit more sculptural. What is the kind of hybrid of those two schemes. And then we also looked at, there was some interest in the themed with the natural so we looked at ways to combine those two characteristics as well. And then the components swing slides climbing sand, we wanted to really make sure these were at the forefront of the play ground where we're working to design. So that kind of wraps up what we heard. And now we're going to move into looking at the, these three options so tonight we have three, we're calling master plan options. And they each have a different playground option. And we'll go through each one of these in a little bit more detail. And towards the end we'll ask, we'll ask everybody what their preferences are for the master plan options because they're slight differences in the way that the overall site circulation is working. And then we'll also ask about the preferences for the playgrounds and these are interchangeable. So, and after this we will work to develop these further based on the comments, and we'll narrow that down to one refined scheme. So we'll start now with looking at option a and just to orient you right chapel away is down at the bottom of the screen, Exeter Drive is here on the left. This is the bio elementary school school yard with the way where the basketball courts are. And this is the boundary of the existing park. So one of the things that in working with the bio elementary school that we heard was important was to provide a more defined edge for the school and provide a sense of enclosure and kind of boundary for that edge. So we looked at ways to do that that are really kind of soft. We have this idea of creating a planted edge that works as a garden, have some new trees and shrubs. And within that we could put a kind of low garden fence to help define that edge keep the kiddos kind of safe within the yard. And there's some opportunities within that garden space to carve out seating places that could be in the shades of trees for the children's to sit and and watch basketball games or playing in the yard. Another element that we are interested in for this master plan option is to create a real kind of gateway or enhance the gateway that is happening at White Chapel and Exeter. We also know that will be required to treat our stormwater runoff of the site. So we wanted to find a way to kind of combine these two elements to create a nice threshold and gateway for the park so we're we've been exploring a stormwater garden this that's that linear element here that could be part rocky could be part planted and also an opportunity to kind of talk and use this as an education opportunity within the park that could be signage that explain kind of what is happening within that stormwater garden. The paths are have a similar alignment to the past there today, the playground is located in the center space. And this scheme. I'll show you in a second. And in the next slide, our thoughts around this playground option. And tucked around the playground are these little nooks where we could tuck in the fitness equipment. So, rather than being all kind of clumped together in a yard we might space them out along this path, and they'd have kind of visual access to the playground. So we're zooming in at the playground for option a, and for this approach we're calling it a dry creek, and the idea is that this is the kind of natural play environment. We're looking at using a boulder screen edge, there's a little bit of a great change between the path and the, and the playground. So, the idea is to create a kind of boulder edge that kids could climb on and move over. And then within that boulder edge, there could be places we carve out sand and water play opportunities. And within that, this is the five to 12 play space and then this is the two to five play space so they are still feel really connected as one playground but there are ways to. To kind of move through to each one back and forth. And then along the south edge we've tucked in a path that has these picnic nooks, kind of off the edges so there's three small nooks where we have picnic tables places to kind of sit and watch children and set up for the for the afternoon. And then within that there are series of play structures. In this scheme, we were able to fit in a zipline. So we're kind of excited about being able to fit that into this playground and swings and small structures. As we the next step for this will really be to get in and figure out the playground structures a little bit further right now I think we're really just doing test fits and trying to define the character of these play spaces. And here's some precedent images of what that could be that boulder edge, be a climbing element could be where we fold in the sand and water play. The play structures could be in that traditional structure with the posts and platforms but within the natural materials. This that this theme of the dry Creek could be played out in other boulder rock elements. And again the zipline could even be done in more natural materials. And then we were looking at ways to allow for sand and water in a way that are a bit more kind of contained. And focused. And then there's a, you know, lots of options for swings and we're interested in exploring some of these kind of group swing options. Next we're looking at master plan B. And it has a lot of similar elements to master plan a. It has a similar edge that we talked about in the previous scheme. So we have a similar path layout and adult fitness locations. And the primary difference in this scheme is the way that the playground is working and the, we've added this picnic space adjacent to the playground. So we wanted to, as you remember we have these kind of small picnic spaces adjacent to the playground like we did in the previous option. But we wanted to provide an opportunity for more of a group picnic where you can get, you know, 2030 people together with the kind of larger space there and there could be some barbecue grills picnic tables, that kind of space. Right next to the lawn, you can imagine hosting a birthday party, baby shower, those types of things. And the playground. We'll look at next. With this option. We're calling this playground the loops, which is really inspired by the kind of artful sculptural ideas that we, we heard some preference for in the community meeting. So we're looking at doing a path. That's a kind of a track that kids could follow along chase each other and run from structure to structure, and really kind of engage it would also allow for lots of great access for, you know, accessible access throughout the playground. And with that we would look at another kind of sculptural edge that could be have rolling topography places to kind of move through this edge I'll show you some precedent images on the next slide for that. And then there are play structures that are also have this kind of loop quality to them that could really tie together nicely with this loops path idea. There's a group picnic area and there's also still the small picnic tables along the edge. So either there are some of the inspiration images for this scheme. This is a really neat product that could play off that idea of the path loop as well that the play structure itself could be a loop. And again looking at that edge it could have some mixed materials or be terraced to gain to play off this idea of kind of a sculptural art approach. And then the last master plan option see does a few different things. The edge for the by Ella elementary school is this has this kind of similar idea. The entry we were looking at a more kind of focused stormwater garden that might have a small path and a place to kind of sit within it. And we've also have additional play adult fitness equipment that wraps down to this lower part of the path. So it's, it's a little bit more offerings in terms of the various equipment, and also provides an opportunity for those equipment to be a little bit further away from the playground, if that's desired. We're also, if I didn't mention before, tucking in benches along the plan, without the throughout the park next to the playground but also outside of the playground if you're not using the playground. And again this idea of the stormwater entry element. It could be an educational opportunity for the school and children as well. And I will zoom in to the last playground option here. And we're calling this one enchanted forest. And this is that option that I mentioned before that pull together a theme with the natural materials. So we're looking at trying to provide a playground that's really shaded by trees. There's a lot of existing mature trees on site. And we've located the picnic edge. Within that grow that's partly why it's jogging around existing trees to get within the shade of those trees. But we're also exploring adding more trees into the playground to make this kind of forest environment. And within that forest environment, there may be a series of kind of playful themed play structures and I'll show you in a minute. Some precedent images for that. The idea of this edge is another element slightly different in this game. This may be more planted and have more opportunities for nature to wrap in, and then also the sand and water play again within that those edge moments. And then here are some precedent images for this. I was really excited about a child that mentioned on the first community meeting this idea of mushrooms, the jumping mushrooms or moving mushrooms. So we wanted to start thinking about that and really kind of really inspired this, this idea of enchanted forest but there may be playful elements like on that theme opportunities to introduce color along with that and you know really trying to take advantage of the existing trees that we have on site and place children within that tree canopy. And just to give you a sense of scale, we wanted to let people know about how big the new playground is that we're looking at. So this is the plans we've been looking at and the footprint is pretty similar and along all the options. And this red dash line is this is the same dash line over on an aerial of coffee park playground. So you can kind of get a sense this is that where that large structure is here with the canopy if you're familiar with it. And the desk for playground is coming in about 12,700 square feet and the coffee park is about 15,600 square feet so it's a little bit smaller than the coffee park playground but very much in that zone that. So hopefully that's helpful. So these are the three master plan options. And within them there are three playground options. And I know I just gave you a lot of information and shared a lot of a lot of ideas. So we wanted to take this moment to open it up for clarifying questions about what I just presented. And I wanted to also let you know that there'll be an opportunity to provide comments and tell us tell us about your preferences a little bit later in the presentation. So I'd like to kind of preserve this opportunity now to ask questions if there's anything that you said that I wasn't clear or any, anything that might help me help you understand the proposals. I think if you can raise your hand if you have any questions. One of our hosts will unmute you to ask your question. We'll go ahead and start by answering some of the questions that have been typed into the Q&A and that will give people a little bit of time also to generate additional questions, or maybe have their question answered. The question is, I'm unsure if what a storm water garden is. Are there any current Santa Rosa parks that have one as a point of reference. Yeah, so storm water garden takes. So when it rains the water falls onto the ground. And then it typically needs to get collected and put into our storm drains to leave the site. And the state of California requires that projects collect a certain amount of that water and either store it or clean it before it's released. And so this is a requirement of any projects over a certain size and this project would would meet those requirements. So the storm water garden is collecting the site the water that falls on the site. And usually it's collected at the low point. And in our case the low point is around, around this corner of Whitechapel and Exeter. And it will, the water will have a special soil section below the rocks and or plants, and the water as it moves through the soil section it actually gets cleaned. It's a way to kind of hold water during big storm events so we don't over overwhelm our systems and our storm water systems. And it and it also cleans water and allows it to infiltrate. And yes there's some at Coffee Park, there are circles that are placed in in the lawns. And they look, they look different. They can be boulders sometimes are planted. I think mostly in Santa Rosa they're more of a rock garden approach. Thank you. I will just also add really quick to it for folks. So if you want another more natural view of this we have something very similar at Bear neighborhood park, which is in the Roseland area of the city, if you want to see something somewhat similar to this in action. So, just wanted to add that in. Thanks Jen. Hey, can you talk a little bit more about what water play is in the parks and in these three master plan. Sure. Sure. We're, we're looking at introducing small amounts of water to work with the sand element. So it's not spraying water. It's not a water park elements, it's more of oftentimes in parks you see a hand pump. That kids use, and it releases a small amount of water and usually you can release that into a sand area, and that allows kids to make sand castles you know you when you get sand wet, they can start to use it in a different way. So, we're looking at ways to, to offer that opportunity. The next question is, wouldn't natural made playgrounds give kids splinters and field bark off. Good question. What the natural play elements are often the material that's used is a robinia, which is a black locus tree. Sometimes they also use Alaskan yellow cedar. And what they do is they harvest those timbers, actually hand sand them. So they're very smooth. They're very hardwoods and very resistant to, to the weather. And then they put them together to create these play structures so they're very safe and very soft. And there's a nice example at Taylor Mountain Regional Park. Yeah, a lot of the play manufacturers are making these now so they will be more and more likely to see them pop up. Thank you. The next question is, what are springs? Springs. Some more context, but oh, springs. Yeah, okay. Yeah, no, I know I got it. Springers are those small play structures that sometimes you can ride on them. There's a spring below there. They're more for the smaller kids the two to five age sometimes their horses or other animals, or sometimes their little train cars, you get inside them and you can kind of rock back and forth. They also make spring boards where there's a spring with a kind of platform, and you can hop from one to the next. So there's any kind of spring mounted play structure that are typically smaller, found in that in the two to five playgrounds. Thank you. The next question is, has there been any consideration to the sloped area north of the playground and west of the Ella. It seems like a great place for the zip line or natural play features like water play, creek, etc. Yeah. It's a good question. We've had several conversations about that that piece the triangle piece I think is is what the question is about what's going on that triangle piece, given the proximity to the school and this also doesn't have great lines of sight from the streets. I think the team felt like the best location for the playground was actually not in that space to help give the school a little bit of privacy and make sure that there's there's decent eyes on the on any kind of elements within the park. The next question is an option be, can you explain the barbecue picnic area in more detail. Yeah, so there's, there's some, all these schemes have a couple of small picnic tables, wrapping the playground and option be we're really gathering them together. Where you can have a larger party so and then maybe barbecue grills, the freestanding barbecue, charcoal grills that you can come and cook. There could be prep counters. So this is really for hosting events or hosting groups of people to come together where you may be actually making a meal, barbecuing food, that type of thing, where the other community where the other picnic tables are more day, you know, like an hour a couple hour use you may set up your when I go to the playground with my daughter we first thing we do is where are we going to put our stuff right you got all kinds of stuff. And so usually those those smaller picnic tables use a playground are really for that to come kind of set up shop. While you're playing and where the larger barbecue is more focused around a cooking focused event group gathering. Hope that's clear. Thank you. The question we have is the creek is a great idea, but the one at bear hasn't been used for in use for a long time. Is this due to a water shortage issue. I'll jump in here for the one at bear, and I'm not exactly sure if there is a water if there's a maintenance problem with it but what we do with the with the creeks because the one at bear has a hand pump. So, a user could pump water into it for a little short space and, and play, and like any water feature like that we turn our drinking fountains and things like that off through the winter. And then we make take a point at time where usually it's April 1 we turn everything back on. And since we've been in COVID we have been holding off on those to discourage more heavier use of the parts we want people to stay in smaller groups. And so that might be contributing to that I would have to check with our maintenance staff if there's something else going on but at least, you know that one operates just a tad bit differently than I would I think plural is offering here there wouldn't be a hand pump for, but it's that same idea, because like Haley mentioned, we will be required to treat water on site or hold water on site so we, we need to do something. And so plural has presented some really nice options for you all to choose from. So that is the end of the typed questions. Does anyone else have a question related to the master plan options. Please raise your hand if you do. I don't see any hands. So let's continue on. All right. So we're going to open some zoom polls. If you haven't done those before they will pop up on your screen. And we'll ask you a question, and you'll have the opportunity to click on an answer. So we have series of questions related to who's here tonight. And then we will jump into asking people about their preferences. Ready for the first round. Let's start the first round. You want me to ask the background questions first. Yeah, please. Okay, so similar to last time I just wanted to talk through this a little bit just in case there's somebody new, but similar to last time you can go ahead and get started clicking in and scrolling up and down to make sure you're answering all the questions, but these are some easy ones to to test for the larger site specific questions. So where do you live in the city. How did you hear about this meeting. It's always helpful for us. How often do you frequent the park. And how far do you travel to use the park so we'll give everyone some time to fill those in and look back to our hosts to chime in when they think we're ready to go but certainly go ahead and start clicking away and inserting your answers and and make sure you scroll away to the end. And we let us know when we're ready to move to the next slide. We'll give you a second since the vote tally has changed with 85% reporting or 17 of 20 people give another 20 seconds. Okay, I will end the poll and share the results. Great. So if you can see that on your screen now it's the same thing you can scroll up and down to check it out yourself. So where do you live we have a lot of folks in Northwest participating tonight which is, which is great that's the quadrant our park is in. And how did you hear about this meeting, a lot of folks from the elementary school that's great and city connections website. Fantastic. And how often do you frequent very similar to what we heard last time daily and weekly. And how far do you travel again five 10 minute walk. Like Hayley mentioned it's consistent with folks who live nearby so great. Going close that. Great. All right now that you're all warmed up on the zoom polls to get to overall here for. All right so next we love to hear which master plan options that you most prefer. If you could pick one, I think there's a zoom poll that's going to come up. And in the open question and comment will be an opportunity to say, you know there's there's elements in these that can be mixed and matched. There was a question about, can the group picnic be in the other schemes. Yes. Those are the kinds of things we love to hear from you. And we'll, we'll get to that in the open comment, but we'll love to just hear what option you're kind of leaning towards right now. And the question will be about which playground. You are preferring. Why are you thinking about it I can just talk a little bit through about the, about some of the differences. Option a and B are pretty similar they both have this kind of linear storm water garden at the entry, and then the four group fitness spaces around the top part of the playground. It's different in that it has the larger group picnic area for it. And then option C has more planting kind of around the playground and has more fitness adult fitness spaces, and then it's got more of a focused storm water garden around the entry with the loop with the path to kind of get into that garden element. And the voting hasn't changed in about 30 seconds. I'll give you another 20 seconds and then we'll close the poll. Everyone can see the results looks like a preference for option C with 50% and option B next option a. So it'd be great to hear from you. When we open up for questions and comments later. What you like about each one of these options. Okay, and then we also would love to hear which playground you're preferring. And again, these are really just directions. That's where we are in the stage of the design will really develop these further and pick out specific equipment. As we move and refine the plans but these are really approaches to the playground some ideas of how they may unfold. So we're going to look at the right creek, which is a focus around older play natural materials. Option B we're calling the loops meant to be kind of artful sculptural elements and play structures. And then option C we're calling the chanted forest, which is looking at playground that has lots of trees and play elements focused around that theme. So we'll send this zoom poll up and was ready. There it is. The results haven't changed in 30 seconds will give another 20 seconds and anyone who wants to. We've got a pretty even spread here. Got 39% for the dry creek, 28% for the loops and 33% for the enchanted forest. And again, it'd be great to hear what you like and in the open comment section, which we're moving to next. So thank you all for your input so far, ready to open up to questions and public comments. Please raise your hand if you have any questions or comments. related to those last two questions that were just asked. Our first speaker is Katie. I'm going to give you permission to speak. And you'll have three minutes for your comments. And then we'll move on to the next speaker. Okay, hi. The designs are all super cute. I love the enchanted forest was my favorite but some of the elements I did see such as ground tunnels built into a berm do look kind of problematic as like trash magnets as well as places to hide for you know people that might be experiencing an emergency emergency. And was there any thought to these kind of concerns regarding visibility and trash and things like that in the plans. Thanks Katie. We haven't decided whether they'll there be actual tunnels in them. I think the person images are maybe always a little too specific. I think if we do introduce any element like that will, I agree with definitely to make sure that it's open, visible and safe. But it's it's likely that we won't have any type of element like that. Thank you. Other questions or comments. And if you'd like to make a comment and you're calling him by phone. You just need to dial star nine. Next speaker is be be I'm giving you permission to speak. Please unmute your microphone and provide your comment you'll have three minutes after which we'll move on to the next. The next speaker. This is my son Benjamin who's 11. I was hoping and also asking if you could do a sand everywhere. Like we already have on the playground right now. Thanks Ben. Jim, do you want this one. Sure I can I can add from a city perspective. One of the things we look at is reducing the amount of sand underneath playgrounds because we have to use a different surfacing so if we have a fall if someone falls from a playground, there's a different surface that bounces a little and sand doesn't bounce back. I'm trying to explain it in different ways that aren't super technical but essentially we want no broken bones from falling. We want to have some bouncing happening if someone falls so that's why we pull the sand back away from underneath playgrounds. But we do want to add sand. That's one of the ideas that's been put forth and we can incorporate sand areas they just can't be underneath the playground areas. So if you have anything they would like to say before we move on to our next steps. Katie has another question. Go ahead and mute Katie and you'll have another three minutes for your comment. Okay just another question since it seems to be a lot. Was there any consideration about speed bumps or a stop sign on Exeter and Whitechapel. We haven't explored any speed bumps we are looking at improving the crosswalks or updating the crosswalks and the ramps to access the park, both at the corner of Whitechapel and Exeter and also further up on Exeter at the corner of Whitechapel. I forget which court that is. There's an existing ramp there so improving that connection as well. Is there, could you say a little bit more about that Katie? Are you, are there some fast moving cars or? Yeah so we are right in the Whitechapel area so we can see everything that you guys are planning. There is a lot of traffic that drives much too fast up and down Exeter especially. It's not necessarily going across Whitechapel because it dead ends, but many, many people even during school kids hours will race down that thoroughfare going from Jennings to Putney to get to college. So there's, we've noticed a lot of traffic there even when there's a lot of kids and people in the park. Okay great thank you. The next comment comes from Jesse. Jesse I'm enabling your speaking permissions. Please unmute your microphone. I'll lower your hand and you'll have three minutes to provide your comment. Okay great designs by the way. First of all, first I just want to clarify my earlier question about that triangle portion. I agree that it wouldn't be a good suitable place for the actual playground but I just thought since you were trying to incorporate a zipline somewhere it looked like from option A there was a zipline like in the middle of the playground. I just thought since it's sloped already maybe it would be a good site for the for the zipline. The second question would be, was there any consideration for bathrooms. I can jump in there Haley if you're okay with that from. Yep. So, for restrooms that we're really not considering restrooms and neighborhood parks. Most of our neighborhood parks do not include restrooms that's an extremely expensive addition but beyond just the expense if it was something that was highly desired in this neighborhood we would look to provide an enclosure with a portable similar to Coffee Park that's an easier, low cost way of providing access to that, although they typically aren't part of the design process for a neighborhood park. They are added in larger community based projects where we have people hanging out for hours versus a neighborhood park which is maybe maybe you're not spending as much time there but certainly if that's something that this neighborhood would like we can be happy to hear from you and have that discussion about including a portable restroom enclosure, if that's something you would desire. The next speaker is concerned citizen. I am enabling your speaking permissions. Please unmute your microphone. I will lower your hand and you'll have three minutes to provide your comment. Hi. Thanks for letting me comment. I just had a comment about the picnic, the proposed large picnic area. And I think it, it concerns me that I'm wondering who would, who would maintain that if there's food preparation or it could be a mess. I don't tend to maybe take care of cleaning up after themselves. So with the city come in and provide maintenance on that. So I'm kind of voting no on a big picnic area. And I also want to second the fast traffic along Exeter. Thanks. And I can jump in just about the city maintenance. Yes, this, this park is will be a combination of maintenance between a contracted service and our park maintenance staff. We do have a barbecue area at Bear neighborhood park, which might operate somewhat similar to this. And again, you know, Haley you can jump in but really we're looking at types of areas and stuff. A lot of the details certainly aren't worked out and, and we love hearing from you tonight and hearing some of the things that you're concerned about or some of the things you'd like because it helps direct us as we narrow down the focus. And the next speaker is be, I am giving you permission to speak to be on the microphone and provide your comments. Hi, sorry if this was discussed in the first half of the meeting I came in late. Something we discussed in the first meeting was providing activities for all ages, not just young kids on the playground things like we've seen at coffee park, like cornhole and ping pong cables, things like that. Is that something that's still in the mix. Thanks be. Yeah, I think it could be. It's something that we can explore. Are there. You said cornhole what else did you have in mind. Haley I just wanted to say I think I heard ping pong and something similar to coffee coffee as chess tables and things like that so. Hopefully we capture everything the but let us know. Yeah I just saw some great cornhole concrete cornhole boards. Today my research. Questions or ideas that you'd like to share. Christie Silva has a comment. Christie, I'm enabling your speaking commissions. Please unmute your microphone and provide your comment. Hi, this is Luke. I'm Christie's husband and I was wanting to make a comment that I've seen a lot of graffiti in the park over the past few years that we lived here and I myself have gone over there to remove it with some stuff I got from a paint store. I was just going to say if possible where wherever considerations could be made to maybe make it. Make the materials out of stuff that would be easy to get paint off of might be a good idea because it seems like a continuous problem and I'm not sure if you guys were aware of that. I'll jump in there Haley from a city perspective we definitely are aware where graffiti is a problem in quite a few parks unfortunately. We do have a team that specifically responds to that. And typically any any new park is going to be designed to have that sort of anti graffiti material within it. That's a major consideration for any next detailed step we take but all that Haley chime in for anything you think you want to add to that. I just was going to echo what you said, you try to put the anti graffiti coatings on on nearly everything and it doesn't obviously keep people from doing it but it doesn't it does help clean it off. Any other comments that you'd like to share, please feel free to raise your hand. And if not we'll move on to our next steps. Okay, I'm not, I'm not seeing any more hands. We're ready to move to the next part of the presentation. Okay, so we just wanted to stop here and remind you all that this, what all the questions that we've asked you tonight are going to be available again. For anybody in the neighborhood that would like to participate certainly we appreciate any conversations you will have with your neighbors and those living around you that are friends etc family. Anyone could participate in the survey it's going to be at our recreation and parks website, which is srcity.org slash park dash projects but of course if you go to our website it's pretty easy to click on the park projects website and then there's everything you ever wanted to know about what we're doing. And of course the latest surveys are on there and all of the past things that we have done at the last meeting are present there and any new future information is always going to be on that website as well so I just want to push that forward to you all as a reminder that for anyone who couldn't attend tonight that is certainly available and we welcome participation. There's, there's a there's definitely a way to keep the communication going. I think we can go to the next slide. And this is just a reminder Haley went over this schedule early on, but our next step is to come back in the summer with a follow up to this meeting to talk about all the information we've heard from you all tonight which we appreciate and anything we collect online as well. And we'll be coming back to you in the summer with that and we've got we're looking at early 2022 for the end of construction. So hopefully that just a little reminder of the schedule there. Next slide. And while I've been the one helping you all tonight navigating along with Haley. Really the park is the project is being managed by Tim Bernhard who's doing the hosting duties tonight. It takes a lot of us to do all this behind the scenes. Certainly, if there's something you need to talk about with us that is, you can't get on the website or anything else or any other questions, please feel free to reach out to Tim Bernhard at tbernard at srcity.org. Or you can call phone number direct, which is of course our area code 7707 543-3969. And our website is always available to you as well. That's the srcity.org projects. And I, I just wanted to take a moment to to let you know I forgot to mention in the beginning I, I wanted to let you know as we talked about the process that this project will go through and we have a series of three neighborhood meetings with the board of committee and then we go on to the board of community services, and we do have our chair Carol quant attending tonight. I just wanted to pass along it's nice to know that we do have board members and attendance, keeping an eye on and, and, and paying attention to what's happening, because this will be coming before the board for a recommendation for approval at some point in the future so I wanted to add that on there. I just wanted to do this I just wanted to let you know this is not the end of the conversation. And certainly we hope that you do keep in contact with us and if we can help you in any way, navigate how your opinions, how much how to get your opinions to us, let us know. Haley, do you have anything else to add. And there's one last question. Oh, okay. Fantastic. Are we able to participate in a live versus zoom discussion before decisions are made on this part master plan, or will we be in virtual mode for the future discussion. That is the million dollar question. It's really hard to navigate right now. We know that our city council process is looking at a hybrid meeting sometime in late June for council items and likely board meetings will follow that but the next community meeting is probably not going to be an in person meeting until unless we are completely open in the state. And one of the things that limits us as a public agency are Cal OSHA regulations as well as containment sometimes if we have an in person meeting we don't know exactly who's going to attend. And if there's still any state restrictions, or local county health orders related to size of gathering, we'll have to, we'll have to meet virtually again. But certainly if we can do in person meeting that would be preferable for all of us as well because it's really great to have the back and forth conversation so if we can we will. So sorry I don't have a specific answer for you but certainly check our website. As things change and progress will put things there on the website that's our best way to communicate and get information out to you all on a fast quick pace method so. Are there any other questions, Tim that popped up. Yes, there's there's another question. I feel like the large grass area doesn't get used much maybe a couple of this golf goals. The comment. Another comment is how about a small dog dog park area in the grassy area. It's fantastic and don't forget to tell everybody you know to provide their comments on the survey because it really helps us get, get us to make sure we're designing the park that you all want and that you're going to love to attend and be part of so. Thank you all very much I know it's tough. We've all you know working we got busy lives and doing different things I just wanted to thank you and turn it back to Haley if you have any closing information you'd like to share. I just wanted to thank everyone for coming and echo your sentiments Jen, please do pass along. Any other ideas or comments you have 10 it will go back to us, and we will work on coming together the next step is to take all these comments and refine it down to one plan. We'll be presenting that plan at the next community meeting. So, any other ideas, please pass them along and be considered for the final plan. Thank you all. Good night. Thank you.