 Wel yw'n y toffi TV, rhai yn iweithio am y Nungr Yn ddeif ... ...'ryr fan y ffordd... ... yw hwn ar gyfer am y maen nhw'n schais gyfio... ... yr oedlaeth mewn ffordd... ... oedlaeth y ffordd yn fnog ym hilion... ... yn y redd y siarad i'r ffordd, ac ydych yn ystod y ffordd, ychydig... ... ar gyfer dechrau. Ychydig yn y mod ychydig, mae y bod nhw wedi hynny... .. ychydig yn yw roi. Dwi'n rhaid i'r bobl! mae'n cwestiwn ymwneud? Mae'r cyffredin yn ymherreg fel y cywir yw ymherreg, rai hwn yn arddangos cymryd oherwydd y llungellig. Oherwydd, byddai'n bwysig yn gweithio, a p Nextiaid eithaf. Yn gyfathio, mae hynny sy'n bwysig yw ein sgol i'r rai hwnnw, ond yw eithaf, mae'n rai ffraeg i am frun, mae hi'r ffradig hwnnw, mae'n sgol i'r pwysig yma, mae raddol yn eu ddwylliant! Iwn, mae'n gweithio'n debyg o'r smiles y bwysig fan'r drws. Iwn d expressive. Mi yw'r ffocws. Mae'r ffan yw ddim chi'n dechrau gyda'i ble chyfnodd, i chi'n gwneud ymddangos, i chi'n gwneud hyn teithio'r ymddangos, ac efallai'n gwneud hynny'n gwybod gyda'r club. Fe yna'n gyfreithio a llwysgol at y mewn gw Secondly, ysgrifenni gyda'r fan yn gwneud hynny. Mae'n dda chi'n gwneud hynny a chymreithio ymddangos. Cwylwch chi yn rhoi ei wneud a chyfnodd ar gyfer amgylcheddau. Felly, gallwn ei wneud o'r fflau'r oeddwn yn y dda. Mae'n gwybod i'n ffordd o'r awr. Felly, ni'n dweud i'n ddwy'r awr o'r ffordd. Rwy'n gwybod i'n ffordd o'r ffordd o'n ddwy'r awr, mae'n ddwy'r awr o'r awr o'r awr o'r awr o'r awr, mae'n ddwy'r awr o'r awr o'r awr o'r awr o'r awr o'r awr o'r awr, Mae'n fawr o'r ddweud o'i gael, ac mae'n dweud bod y gallu cyffredinol yn gafodd, felly mae'n gweithio i'w ddweud o'r cwestiynau i'r cwestiynau, ac mae'n gweithio i'r clwp, yn gweithio i'r ddaeth, ac yn gweithio i'r ddweud o'r cyffredinol. Yn gweithio, mae'n ddweud o'r ddweud o'r ddweud o'r website. Mae'n ddweud o'r clwp yn ymgyrch yn y ddechrau, ac yn y ddweud, mae'r ddat judged yno arnynt. I wnaetham weithio i'r gweithio ond rydym yn전 oed ac mae'r gwlaeth yn fwycau, ond pusho iawn cael ffgffredinol yn y ddechrau. Mae'n 其mmaxol fy wir yn y cwestiynau wgwynt ag siarad内 yn ei import. Rhaid i rotate o'r gweithio i'r newidau a wahanol yn ôl neu hefyd yn gofyn ar gyfl Children oherwydd mae na hyn didd wagud i gwahanol ond y cwestiynau, felly mae'n fawr bleín yn mwyg mewnργol hyn, mae wedi'i eich iddi wnaen dropsi Cymru complaintswr yma. yn y stadion. Felly, mae'n gwybod, yma, i'n gwneud hynny'n ddwy'r gwymau, a'r ddysgu'r wyth i'r hyn o'r hwnnw, os iddyn nhw? Felly yma, ond mae'r ddweud yn y tyfnod o'r hyn yn y cyfarfod yma, â'r ffordd yn y ffordd yma, ac mae'r ymlwanydd yna yn bod nhw eich ôl. Mae'r ystod y tu�r yn dweud at wrth yr hyn. Mae'r olffiad yn y ffordd. Mae'n gyrdyn ni'n mynd ei rhoi'r fwyaf sono. Mae'r gwylo'n boryd? Mae'r ffordd eich rameil yna yn gwybod ddysgrifio ar y club. Rwy'n teimlo, gan credu a chyfodd honni y bydd maen nhw'n amdannu usio. ac mae'n gweithio i felwyr yn cael ei fod yn gwneud i chi'n fwy o'r hyffordd, ac oedd yn fawr o'r ffrifau o'r newydd o'r gweithio. Felly mae'n gwneud oherwydd, mae'n ddiddordeb o'n ddiddordeb o'r ffalu, ond mae'n cael ei ddiddordeb o'r ddiddordeb o'r ddiddordeb o'r ffrifau. Mae'n meddwl a'r profiad o'r ffrifau o'n meddwl, a wnaeth yng Nghymru'n gwneud o'r ddiddordeb o'r ddiddordeb o'r cyffredin. So, we'r Charleston, then my staff are doing games, and the corey, and then we lost games. We had that waffad Tabachell in the middle of it. So it has been a little bit of frustration, and people start to feel a bit down. And the ground is really the one thing that we're all clinging to is the beating of positivity. Ond rwy'n creu bod mynd i'n gweithio… Roedd y club wedi'i cael ei gydig yn fwy o gweithio ar gyfer gweithio. Ac mae'n gweithio'r problemau wedi'i cael ei gweithio yn ymwyaf. Roedd yn ymwyaf i'r anffodus, ac mae'n gweithio'n cael ei gweithio, mae'n cael ei gweithio'n cael ei gweithio'n gweithio. Ac mae'n rhaid i chi? Mae'r gweithio'r gweithio'r gweithio'n gweithio, Yn y bwysig o'r ddechrau gael y bydd y gynhyrch o'r cyflwyno. O'r cyflwyno o'r deilio, mae oeddaeth eich gwasanaeth yn yw'n cyflwyno. Yn y gallu. Felly mae'n bwysig o'r bensmarc yw'n gweithio'r cyflwyno, mae'n bwysig o'r bensmarc o'r bod yn gwasanaeth i'r hyfforddau, a mae'n bwysig o'r bensmarc o'r bensmarc. Felly, mae'n oeddydd i'n gweithio, mae'n gweithio'n gweithio, Dw i'n ddweud y jorlu yn hun, ac y Llywodraeth Cyngor yn ei hun i'ch ei gwirio'i cyd-i gallu a bobl. Yn imperfecta nhw, rydych yn ein tynnu'n gweithio, gallwch yn deall hwn, yu'r rhain o'w assembleau, ac bwysig yn llygwyd yn ymddangos, a phaithio o bobl y'r hanes. Yr hyn y fan, mae'n gweithio'r rhaglaeth wedi dod. Diolch yn credu'r rhaglaeth, mae'n gyd yn cael eu cyllidau agor. Ac yn falch o'r ardych chi'n meddwl, cynnwch chi'n gofyn i'w sbwyllt ar gyfer y tyfnwys ymddangos. Mae'n meddwl i'w meddwl i'w pethau cyfrifiadau, felly rydyn ni'n meddwl i'w texau, felly arddangos gyda'r rôl â'r hynny, ac yn ardal i chi i ddechrau'r rôl. Mae'n dechrau i gŷnol gyda'r cyfrifiadau, ond mae'n meddwl i'w meddwl i'w grannu. Sometimes you get frustrated don't you? Cysi'r like, there's no Mars pass. The bee is warm. Sometimes you think what they're doing exactly what they should be doing. Could they do any better? So we had Siobhan, who's on the forum. Siobhan Dornan has really got a process in her day job. So she was watching some of the processes and the speed they're getting things out. Not quite there. But they've had a huge turnover on staff. I think the hospitality industry in general in the UK is on its backside a bit. Byddai'n gwneud'r rai gweithio'r ddau. Yn yr ddau'r ddau'r ddau o'r ongo. Felly, mae'r ddau'r ddau'r ddau'r ddau'r ddau, mae'n cael ei ddau'r ddau. Mae'n ddau'r ddau i'n gyfrifio ymlaen o ddau'r ddau. Ond mae'n amlwg ymlaen i'r cwmwyntau. A'r gweithio'r carling yn y ddau'r partyn sydd. Felly, mae'r ddau'r wneud maedru. Mae'r ddau'r Sam Magel, Sut ydych chi'n erioedd? Gyd, ac mae oo arall yn gweithio bod yn gwneud ofertyfynol yn yw. Mae'r corll yn ddilyn, mae'n ystyried. Ond yn ffrifysgwyr, mae'n gweithio, mae'n cull iawn. Mae'n ffrifysgwyr yn holl. Mae'n ffans yn ystod, ai'n adon. Mae'n ffioedd ymweliadur yn chi i gyd i ansiol a wneud efallai cychwyn cyfosio ac mae yna os wedi'i gŵr oherwydd i gyrwbiadwr. mae'n ddweud i'n gweithio ar y cyfnodd a'r ysgolwg a'r ddweud, ond byddwn i'n wneud yn ôl i'n mynd i'n mynd i'n ymwybod a'r angen i gael gyd o beth o'i gael gyd. Yr ysgrifennid yma, sy'n fawr i'n bwysig iawn i'r ffordd y mae'n gweithio i'r olwbl, ond mae'n ddweud i'n gweithio i ddaleu'r ysgrifennid. Brannu'r ysgrifennid yma o'r ddweud i'r e-mailu, Mae'r diodel yn awddio ddechrau. Mae'n gwybod ni'n gweld weftwng i fy nhw. Felly mae'n gwybod ni'n gweld ffledd ar draws. A byddai'n dwi'n gwybod ac rwy'n cael ei ddefnyddio. Mae'r cymwyno, byddai'n gwybod, a mas gan gwenddoedd pepperon dostodu. Mae'r ff чаid ac mae'n gwybod dwi'n wneud ei awddai. Felly, mae'r gwlad a'r goddysgffent eich hunain. ac mae'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio a'n gweithio sydd wedi'u gweithio sydd yn gwneud o'r fath ac yn gwneud o'r gweithio'r gwasanaeth Ffark ac yn fwy o'r gweithio'r gwasanaeth, ac mae'n gweithio'r cwmhwyntau a phobl eich bod yn gweithio'r fath. Mae'r bwysig wedi'u'r rhaid i fynd y pryd yn ymgyrch arall ei fod yn dŵr. A'r bwysig ar ysgol yma'r Llywodraeth, mae'n cael eu fath. Mae'n cael ei gweithio'r gweithio. Felly, mae'n meddwl o'r oled yma yn gallu'r ymddiol iawn. Felly, mae'n meddwl i'r wyf yn wiretio i chi. Mae'n meddwl i'ch gynnwys. Mae'n meddwl i chi'n meddwl i chi i fyny yw ddim yn ymddiol i gyd. Ond eisiau, mewn meddwl i chi'n meddwl, efallai yn ddigonwysol eich bwrdd, ei ffaiso'r oled i chi. Mae'n meddwl i chi i gweld wahanol, ond mae oeddaeth grwyfodol. Mae'n meddwl i chi ar gyfer gwahanol, ar ôl ger cryf Nicolau a Llywodraedd, Wedi cael hwych yn ddechrau ar brosesen, mae'n gweithio datblygu'n gweld ddweud. Mae'n fwy gŵr ffordd yma, mae'n ddweud fwy ffair, ac mae'n gwybod yn gwybod. Mae'n ddweud y cwmrae'n cael ei fod yn fwy o'r gweithio ar y cyfnod. Mae'n ddweud y gwybod yn ddweud. A'r brosesen? A'r brosesen. Ac yna ffwy o'r ffordd o'r gweld. Mae'n gweithio ar y cwmrae, mae'n ddweud yn tynnu'r cyfnod. Ithink at times, we've been releasing information too late. 장난 williams is full as is the airway channel you say. We're from panel gets from Cuttuwsinn park. He's been as far as Kenya, Switzerland and goes everywhere. He really understands that whole word of mechanism. Baddys has been pushing big time on a lot of the stuff, getting on a ticket in a ways. One of the things that he was pushing, Baddys goes on Trains and quite of the information that gets released up really late. so byddwn i'n iawn i'r posti, byddwn i'n llawer o'ch gyfadau fan, i'n bryd o'r buogi o'r gwasiau sydd yn fynd i ddim, yn ymwneud i gyd meddwl i'n meddwl cyflwydauon, wedi bod yn dod o'r cwrsau'n gweithio, bod y pwg yn dyfu hynny, ei gael roi fod i'r rhwng cyfleig yw, ond y TV yn ei ddiwedd, y TV mae'n gweithio chi wedi bod, yn amlwg o'r cyfleig yw y pan yn ymwneud, a'r cyfleig wedi bod yn ym 16-38 gwir. ar y tai o'r mae'r iawn gwneud-io. Over the course of the season, that's a couple hundred pounds. That's a roll as a pocket, so... On to be fair, you know, Barry's been pushing on that now for a number of months and he's commented and he's said that Wolves Brentford and the City Game have been released well earlier. Which has allowed them fans to now get the tickets, train tickets at the right price and just get that whole information. That's a real positive, you know that there's only small things but as long as we can keep pushing on these things to make sure the fan experience about ticket a phawr dilych yn gafod. Mae'n meddwl o ffans yn emwyth adael ac yn myfyrdd y ffans yn byddiw leddol gyd. Mae'n meddwl o'i ddweud y chymde. Oedden nhw'n meddwl, ac mae'n meddwl o'i ddweud, o'i mosto'r llewch i'r asko iawn ar bleidliadol o'n meddwl o'r llwyth, ac mae'n meddwl o ffans nid, mae'r ddelch yn gweithio â'u ddweud a chwnio bob ryw grafi. Mae'r ddweud eich gweithio ar gael yr hwnnw, They are still saying it is sticking to 10 o'clock. We have brought this up on numerous occasions again, I ask if anyone is affected by it. If anyone wants us to continue pushing it please reach out and tell us and we can use that as evidence to push on it. Yes because I think that is important isn't it? If you obviously have it travel heavy as Fari Gris said. Ketter to the club aren't they? Exactly. I think you want everybody to be given the same opportunity if people are... I know, listen, there'll be people who start at work at 7, so it might melt them and off the wheel. You understand that, don't you? But a lot of people do begin work at 9 o'clock. And the club can just help the majority, I would say, or just make it at a time where you think, well, most people can get them at that time. 10 o'clock, like you say, if you're a teacher or if you're in work, you're having to stop what you're doing to try and get a ticket. You might take your 10, 15, 20, on the phone or whatever you're trying to sort it. So if the club can put you on that and make it, it was 8 o'clock, wasn't it? It went from 8 o'clock to 10, so I don't know logistically why it's done that. I'm not an expert, I don't know what the club's excuse will be for that, but something like that I think is important because those people do travel up there on the length and breadth of the country. They deserve a first-class service down the way from the club with all the effort they put in. I mean, a new one that's come in with a ticket is the resale platform as well. Obviously that was brought in and we would like to be involved in that process much sooner. We weren't, for me that was a bit of a mistake. However, it is what it is, we are where we are. There are certain elements, probably that resale system that needs to be improved now. We would certainly like family and friends, the ability to transfer tickets. You list them on the website at the moment, so we've been pushing to say, well can you not just transfer it rather than that messing around? Obviously we've seen some really good schemes by Blues with the tickets for Toffees and a variety of other things where they've gifted tickets. StubHub has a lot of flaws, but at the same time, I've had the benefit where fans could list them for cheaper. We live in these times now where people may be financially struggling and having the ability to get cheaper tickets might be that one game that a fan gets to go to a year. So we're pushing to get that in place. We're assured that that's going to be a build, very surely, as a work in progress. So that should be a real benefit when that comes in. Another thing that was risen to us about the alert, so when you're selling tickets, people weren't getting notified whether the tickets had sold or not. So fans were left in a bit of limbo then, like, as me tick had gone, as it not, do you know what I mean? And if it's not, you can then almost unlist it and then organise for someone else to go. But if you don't know, you're just left in that. So we've noted on Twitter we had a lot of people asking fan services and the answer back was very open-ended, like we'll be in touch shortly. Anyway, we'll win shortly, is that? Thursday, Friday, Saturday before the game. And it was very... So we brought that to the club's attention anyway, and assured us that the delay process was about to be launched when people sell the tickets. And funny off, Lee Mitch off the bobble as a sacks, he texted me this morning to say, look, I've got another day for them to say me ticket sold. So it must be in place now, which is a positive. Because again, if you're selling your ticket, you want that reassurance. It's been sold, so you know where your stand's at. The one that caused all kinds of chaos, and we had like some Franco from the Swiss toff he's thrown up and a variety of different people on the build-up to the season, because of that switch over to the digital stuff. There was a lot of people wanting to speak to the club and the waiting times were quite poor, to be honest with you. People were like 40 minutes an hour on the phone. Yeah, my mother-in-law was well over an hour, to know how to get through. So again, we sat down at the club to try and understand a bit more about what's the process, how's it? I mean, you worked many years ago. You know, it probably hasn't changed much since then. But we spoke to them about, you know, what are the frequent problems that are coming up, what are the common issues? And it's become apparent that you don't have a web chat facility. Right. So our first suggestion was, let's look to try and bring a web chat facility in. Because again, it's that fan experience, you know, you want to contact the club, you know, you're paying £500 a pound for a season ticket. You know, you at least want to be able to get in touch with them, not be waiting for an hour. And the web chats now open live, they agree to trial it. It's there. So if you go on the club website, I believe it's in the bottom right of the website. OK. You can then open a web chat so you can sit in the background and do whatever you're doing and, you know, you're not on the other end of the phone. Barry Williams has used it. And you know what Barry Williams has liked for a bit of moaning. And he even said it worked and it will work fine. OK. Under five minutes his problem has dealt with. That's good. So again, you know, that's another improvement now. I've been really pleased. I've got to say, you know, thanks to the club for taking that on board and running with it and actually putting it into motion. I think that's important, isn't it? There's a, you know, the fans forum's been criticised in the past by different people. But I think if that, you know, if you're taking stuff to the club now and the club are dealing with it and it's making everybody experience better, then it's good. So people do need to get in touch rather than just moaning somewhere. Get in touch and go, listen, I'm having this issue or whatever. And then if you can then take it forward and try to put it on the club's toes then to deal with it, then hopefully at the other end we come up with a better service altogether. I think that's the case. As you referenced before, you know, I think there's a misconception sometimes. We're just, you know, a gang of Evertonians as well. You go to the match, we go to the homes, you know, likes a body goes to every way. And we want the best club that you can have. You know, we're volunteers, we give up our free time and it's all to try and make things better for fans of that. Ultimately holds what we do. You don't get anything for it. And you know, anything that you want us to raise, you want us to push, we will. You know, and it's quite simply because it benefits us all, isn't it, if there's a better version of the club? Well, we want experience is better. We want life from the very top of the club, the club moving forward, don't we? And if that is the case of, you know, if you leave by example, if the club starts moving forward, you're pushing the club to get better then. Eventually we will have a better club than what we've got now. We will. And we need one. Yeah. And it's that simple, isn't it? It is. That's simple. What else then, mate? Well, I mean, this is something that's really started to work me and I'm sure you'll agree on this is how frequently fixtures are being moved. Yeah. Now, I appreciate this is not something that the club directly could come back and have control of. But you know, I think it's like two months before the next Saturday. It's something ridiculous, isn't it? Mid-January of this, for the whole game, yeah? Home game. And, you know, they get later and later when they're telling fans with the cut-off points, they're not achieving them any more. And it does feel sometimes. I don't know how you feel and the pageants feel, but it feels like very much like your second class citizen. There's a match going fan and with a second and an afterthought. So we basically just raised the displeasure of what people have said to us about the constant changes, the constant messing round. And obviously the club with the Premier League on the Premier League meetings and they've assured us, obviously, they'll express the fans' displeasure on that front as well. Again, you appreciate the club. It's not in their immediate control, but when they attend that meeting, maybe the Premier League at least, you know, they can make our voices heard that way. Yeah. I think for me, definitely to, you know, to go from October to January without the three o'clock Saturday home game. Badness. That's amazing. It's not acceptable in town. You know, I think we'd gone. Wasn't it the Southampton game? It was the first home game we'd had since October the year before. Yeah. So October to August, with those having the three o'clock home game. And I know we were in the stadium and the games were all different times. But we're in it this year and, you know, Arsenal's gone to a Monday night. Leicester's gone to Sunday lunchtime. You know, others, Brighton's, I know, a lot of people might be happy Brighton's gone for him. New Year's Day to the second. But Newcastle's gone to a Thursday night. And again, that might benefit the team because of the text of rest days. But as a ffango on a game, the three o'clock's are getting less and less. Even the away games, you know, the three o'clock's are getting less and less, Addy. And if you're going to do it, do it within the timescales. But look at how the fans can plan. We're playing City on Sunday, two o'clock. Brentford to Sunday after two o'clock. Liverpool's a Wednesday night. Arsenal's the Monday night. Chelsea's the Thursday night. Leicester's the Sunday lunchtime. So, there's six, the next six games. I think, sorry, Crystal Palace isn't, there's one of them that I want to miss now. That's the only Saturday between now and... Actually, I think that's the only Saturday we've got for the rest of the year. I think just at the top of my head, I might be wrong. I just think that's the only Saturday we've got for the rest of the year because Boxing Day, I think is a Sunday this year. So Brighton's a Monday now, I think, is it? Is that right? No, sorry, Brighton's the Sunday as well. Newcastle's a Thursday night or whatever it is. Or Boxing Day's the Monday and Newcastle's the Thursday night. The Chelsea ones are perfect example, Chelsea away. Barry was looking into the price of getting back from Chelsea away. It was £100. And again, this is because... And isn't the last train? Yeah, they can't even make it, can you? Can't even make it. So that was raised by Barry to the club as well. And even when the club has said that the fanxers for bringing it to their attention, they're going to go away and have a look at what they can do. So fingers crossed, you know, some common sense can be looking at that and see if the club can do anything to assist the fans, you know, because... I think they think for the club, I guess it's difficult... It's difficult for the club. As the club look at it and go, well, we're on telly, so we get a big pot of money, great. We all want the club to have more money, but there has got to be a balance. There's got to be a balance. The Premier League just throwing games at any time and changing fixtures. Like, what about people who are flying in? There have been people who plan to come here for the Arsenal game. Early December, you know, Christmas coming, flying in from Ireland or Norway or whatever, you know, people flying in. And the next minute, the games are Monday night. So they might have thought they were coming for the weekend. And it's all of a sudden Monday night. And that's the thing with the deadlines, the deadlines are there for that reason, for fans to be able to plan. You know, fans to be able to book the travel. You know, whether that is international or domestically, you know, you've got Helgdon and, you know, the Norwegian lads or Joe and the Irish toffees. And all these people are planning for their wider groups and they all just want to get to the games and be able to watch them. So yet now, I think that needs to really be sharpened up because it's letting the fans down at the moment and, you know, it's costing them money, especially in the times that we're in. It's just extra money again, isn't it? Definitely, most definitely. Keep hanging, there's a lot of money, keep hanging. Definitely will. And funny enough, one that's born off toffee TV, one of your shows that you've done recently was the Atmosphere piece. Oh, yeah. So obviously, we're back at the games now. You know, we all, as Evertonians, want the atmosphere to be as good as it can be. Yeah. You know, you've only got to listen to Cain, you know, and how passionate he speaks about it, you know, and the, you know, obviously the Originals group that was set up. Barry knows Cain quite well. So Barry's started conversations off with Cain now, and he's looking to see what he can do to help that process as well. And the forum is really open to work and whoever we need to work with, you know, fellow fans trying to push and try and get things to where they need to be. So, although that's not an update, it's an update to say that conversation starts, which is the important part. Is there any, we did mention this in that, and I don't know if you won't know this yet. I don't think, but it's something I'd like you to take forward, is the safe standing option a good one? Is there any way the club would consider it when we've asked them? It was a no, but... Yeah, we've got the same answer back. OK. You know, again, you know, I would have liked to see that personally on a personal level be trialled. You know, I think that the GC8 thing, you know, it was good and principled, but they weren't really probably given the support at the time that they needed to actually do it. I know the club have done a lot of things as well. You know, the banners, the flags, sort of, you know, the club have worked with them as well. So it's just trying to get that conversation started again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We, especially now, I think it's important, because, you know, we're moving towards Bramley Moor. What a challenge to try and get Bramley Moor like Gouldersen. It's going to be hard, you know, it's a brand new stadium and you don't want to be soulless. Yeah. Not quiet, like Gouldersen can be, yeah. Yeah, but you want everyone wanting to be bouncing. Yeah, of course. You know, and you've got to listen to, like Barry Cain, the originals, the type of, you know, handstalls, you know, all these, all these people that go the ways that, you know, that are singing the songs out and the more they listen to, the more they're empowered. It's going to be better for us all, you know. The club does better, team wins more games if the atmosphere is good, which means more money, which means it's a self-fulfilling prophecy, isn't it? It is, yeah, definitely. So that's good, then, that dialogue starts. So I'm glad that that started up. Obviously, we started a campaign with Eftonians against Heath as well. You've ever seen, you know, the first game with some of the pictures of the fans taking the knee and look at, you know, you've ever seen the Noiles of the Eastmo campaign that we've done, you know, with the Poblars, Miss Porter group, you know, you should be able to go the game and not suffer any form of discrimination. Yeah, of course. Look, we're not soft. It does happen across the country. We've seen examples of it all time. So I think some of it, it's up to the fans, you know, to push this stuff. It's got to be tennis-led, you know, you've got to make sure that, you know, to say space that whoever you are, wherever you're from, you know, you should be able to go the game and feel that you're safe to do so and enjoy your day. So, you know, we won't apologise. We'll continue to be pushing that message. And there's a lot of work going on at the moment with EDSA, the Heritage Society, working with other fan groups. Siobhan's been working with her game, too, towards International Women's Day. And there's going to be an activation there. So probably throughout the season, when we do actually get an update for you, we'll let you know. But there's going to be a lot of activations towards pushing that to make sure that, you know, that height doesn't exist within Gudson Park. Certainly not a north band base. Brilliant. That's really good. And it is massively important as well. You know, you go the game to enjoy the game. You don't need to be, you know, on the receiving end of that or hear it directly to the others or whatever. You just going to go and enjoy the game. By all means, be voice-siferous. Be hostile towards referees. And the opposition, but do it without being abusive and, you know, hate-filled and all of that. So we can all enjoy Gudson and Bramley more on the atmosphere as well. The other one that I wanted to bring up as well is a conversation. Denise Barabaxon's elbow, you wouldn't see any email from her that went out to his own in the fan base to suggest that, you know, tickets were going to become a conversation again, season ticket prices. So, yeah. So the club initiated a conversation. I believe they spoke to various different groups across the fan base, gave us a presentation the other night, taking through, you know, where everything stands in comparison to the rest of the year. You know, to be fair, they have froze the tickets for decades or over. So, you know, I've got to say that's a really good point. You know, it's good to see that that's happening and making the game affordable as it should be for people in the city. It should be able to go to the game when you want to really. And that was all for discussion, really. They wanted to start a conversation. The forum's positioned very much as what you're proposing. We had to see that. Yeah, yeah. So we're very keen to see, you know, what are you actually proposing to us? You know, you're saying they're going up and if so, you know, how much? Or, you know, or are they staying the same? So we very much want, you know, the club to actually tell us that the details. So we've gone back to actually, you know, asked them to show the show what they're proposing and such rather than start the conversation. Cos there's a variety of different viewpoints on this, isn't there? Although we have froze them for 10 years. I'm very much don't want to see that change to Bramleymore personally. I kind of accept that, you know, when it gets to the Bramleymore that it's big gleam a new stadium, but football should be affordable for everyone. You know, it's a working class sport at the end of the day for me, so. What are your thoughts on that, Simon? Yeah, I listen like again. It's an uncomfortable conversation, I think. I think of everything. Of everything we're flying. And, you know, we were tracked and we were doing things the right way on a football point of view. And I think we'd all be a bit more open. So we'll, you know, we spend a bit more money. We get better players and stuff like that. I guess from the football clubs, the business side, they're going to be like, well, we need to do that anyway. I understand that, but from a fans perspective, you know, just look up and down the country, look what's gone on. Yeah. You know, look what's continually happening. You know, the politicians, it's all coming out. It's all coming out now, isn't it? They've been, you know, it's getting more expensive to live without anything. You know, cost of living is going up and wages aren't matching that and everything else. So it's always a difficult conversation to talk about putting places up. I'm like you. I thought it will obviously go up when we go to Bramleymore. We know that we've got a brand-new stadium. It's got to be paid for. Yeah. You want to create more revenue. I see an email, you know, telling us that we're going after that, this awkward conversation about tickets getting, you know, going up. But I think if it's to go up, it's got to be almost a nominal amount. I think if it's got to go up with goodness and if it's got to go up with goodness and if they're turning around to us, going, listen, the global pandemic has done this, you know, these are the numbers. If you want us to buy players, we've got to bring in more revenue. So we have to charge an extra £15 a head because that will give us, and I haven't even done the maths, but that will give us a couple of million extra and that will make it, then that will be the maximum for me. I think 15 quid, I think more than that. Yeah, but I don't, I think 15 pound isn't just 15 pound though, is it? Because obviously I've got a lot I take, so therefore we're double then aren't we? So that's more money. Some parents will have, they'll go and the three kids will go, so all of a sudden it's 100 quid or it's, you know, 90 quid, whatever, how many is in your family? The drinks and everything else, it's already an expensive thing, you know? You're almost sitting here crying poverty for everyone going, oh, they can't do it, but when you move into Bramleymore, that's, to me, that seems that if you've got to do it and we all accept it, in an ideal world, it wouldn't go up. We've moved to Bramleymore and we don't be paying the same thing we were paying 10 years ago. But the 10 years before, we've got use to incremental increases to me. Well, matter what they were, five and 10 quid, 20 quid, in some cases 40 quid at the time, but we were... I think we'd be crept up as well, as football club fans. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, I think they've been hit the worst. What's maddest? You have your season ticket, you pay it. Whether it be direct debit or everything else, you pay it. You do forget about the people who can only afford to go to a few matches and they get, when you're like seeing the prize, you're like, yeah, it's 50 quid for that thing, you're like, yeah, 50 quid, yeah. You know, cos I don't know, it's a lot of things have crept up like that, but if you're talking, there's food banks up in there in the country, there's people in poverty. Up in the ground, you know, and... It is all of that, isn't it? It's difficult, isn't it? I think, you know, for me, certainly, I don't know, that walk of price, certainly it's got to be kept. You know, you can't keep creeping that up as well, you know, and... I think, you know, it's good that they've kept them so long. We are one of the most affordable in the Premier League, but I very much want to see what, you know, what are we saying, you know, what are you actually proposing, and that's very much the standpoint of the moment. Yeah, I don't think. It's difficult to go to the club all yet, that's about... You know, we're happy with what it... We've got no reference what are they talking, are they talking £50 a head or are they talking a £100 a head? Which is a totally different conversation again, isn't it? Because then, when that comes up, you're going, no, mate, sorry. Yeah. Sorry, because you know, every year, when we're going like that, and putting our hand in our pocket, we're not seeing the product matched. No. It's like making me laugh when people talk about... You know, it's this amount of go to theatre. Every, you know, wherever you go, and you're like, yeah, okay. Well, A, I don't go to theatre every other week, and B, when I go to theatre, I know I'm going to generally shape almost perfect performance of what I'm seeing. It's perfect performance. You know, I go and watch everything. I see a team, two on up with 30 minutes left, lose five, two. You know, and... Like I said before, things are a lot more palatable when things are on the up. Yeah. Fans will kind of go, like, okay, I understand I've got to pay a little bit extra, but you know what? I love coming to this place and me team. You know, we've got the teams moving forward, and I can see the direction, the pathway, it's clear and all of that. The journey we're on, which is another one. And you want to see us pushing in every other area as well? Every bit. You know, like markets and retail. You know, we're selling enough shares. Have you got enough shops around Europe and the world? You know, probably answers now. You know, so let's push in all the areas and let's, you know, there's plenty of areas. The fans really should be the last one you're squeezing because you're already squeezing, and we've already had this discussion about it's four and a half quid for a warm bottle of beer, a good isn't it? Yeah. And yet fans went to Manchester United and it was £3 a pint, and Liverpool, I believe, is around the £3 mark, you know, or maybe some cases a little touch cheaper for beer that they can get. It's not all about beer, but I'm just using that as a line of sight. It's built up to the start. But everything is there, everything's short. You know, you can't go, well, our match day, food and everything is there, and everything is there. Oh, you know, it's more expensive than a club in the same city as us. Yeah. But now we're putting the ticker pricing up as well and we're doing it, you know, and we're not seeing it repeated on the pitch in terms of if everything's going up and the team's getting better and better. Well, they're seeing Chelsea's today. Three times it's gone off, it's gone off, it's gone off. And you think it's, yeah. Where's this game going? That's the overall, isn't it? The overall thing. And this is the thing I think a football club should've got a look at now, Dave, in my opinion. And I might be wired at a mark here, but for me, having a look, when you look at Premier League football now, you see what happened with the Sly Six not so long ago, you know, and how the media rallied ran them to make sure they didn't get punished. And everyone was saying they'll get 12 points deducted. It's made for the Premier League being very interesting. Now that's the problem. Well, John Blaine, he says. John Blaine's got his league table. We're west, I'm a-winning it at the moment because the other teams are bottom out of spares. That's my reference point, that's the real thing. And that's the thing about it, is that they did that unnecessarily and the media, the journalists, Tenny Winter, can't punish the fans, you know. But he's quiet on Dabi County getting hammered, you know. But as well as that, there's the greed, so fans were just knocked to the side with that Super League. Wern't they? And it was only when fans kicked off that they went on and gone, let's do this. And I'm still not convinced at all. No, it's coming back, but you've got that. And then it's money on top of it. Players' wages aren't level and out, are they? They're going like that. But fans are still expected to go to Chelsea at eight o'clock on a Thursday night, pay. Now Chelsea fans now are expected to pay £3,900 for the season ticket, that was £1,300 quid this season. It's now going to be £3,900 next season, you know. There's that kind of thing, it's squeeze, squeeze. And that's where the game's going and, you know, okay. Chelsea, luckily for them, seeing to win things regularly, so they're getting a good product, they're not getting a good product that your season ticket tripled. I mean, that's busy and that's in London where it's already expensive anyway. Well, that doesn't give our club an excuse to go, well, Chelsea playing this league in this, there's four grand a season. But we've got a part, you know, for me it doesn't anyway. I've got to use the premium crisis option. Just simply haven't got 500 hands up front. No, that's the thing. That's the thing, isn't it? And for me, I've pushed on this beginning of this season, last season, you know, the premium credit charger fee of about £20. So again, you know, I've asked the club a couple of seasons now to make sure that that is as competitive as it can be, you know what I mean. So that's another fee that I think, you know, that we need to, again, they've assured me that they're going to make sure that they're going out there and looking for other options that are more affordable. I mean, I use that option every year because I've got it, you know. Because my finances are on in the case where they can just... I've always got 600 pounds now. To be honest, though, loads of people won't. Loads of people's finances won't be in the state where they can just go, yeah, there you go, or there you go. I mean, this year, to be fair, I paid last year, this year out because we didn't go the game. So I had credit for playing the year before. So it was like, I haven't got to find that because the credit is there. So next summer it's like that's when you find it or whatever it is. And you're feeling it. You're kidding, and you're going off the couch like, here we go again or whatever. But you're right, you're absolutely right. It just seems to me like the game is squeezing. It's squeezing and squeezing and squeezing. I think the worst thing that could have happened, obviously, was the pandemic because it made clubs go, well, not so much clubs, but TV companies. Well, we've got this product and we can put it on whenever we want. The fans almost don't matter. You're just that season with no fans in. Of course, they want the stadiums full. Yeah, but there's all of the other stuff that goes on. I think now it just looks like they're ringing everything they can out of support. There's not just evident, by the way. This is talking right the way across the board. I mean, my viewpoint is simple. The game belongs to the fans. Where the constants, you know, my grandad is right the way up and down the chain, you know, and. You're born in Evertonian and that works right the way down. So, you know, it should be affordable for people. You know, so we're very much let's see what they've got to say on that. Yeah, it'll be interesting. It'll be interesting and hopefully. Ideally, it'd be nothing. You know, they'd say, well, all right, we've listened and we're going to try to leave it as it is or a small increase. Maybe five pound or ten pound on the ticker as a very small increase. And that'll be it till we get to Bramley. I don't know whether they will. I'm just saying something that you think will. That might, you know, that might be palatable. So the club will make a little bit more people might might be able to just about afford that. Well, ideally, they just leave it to Bramley more and go and have these conversations building up to Bramley more. So we're all four one. Well, I'll be looking on patron when this video goes up. So we can look at what people are saying. Well, I'll do a little poll for our for our patients to see what they think is acceptable. What should it be? Should it remain the same? Should it should it be a small increase? Is that acceptable? Or, you know, is there other people happy to pay whatever? But I don't think people will be. I don't really. And right now, I don't think people definitely. So it's an interest I'm once you have on. I understand looking at both sides. The football club might be thinking, well, we need to claw back some money from somewhere. But as a supporter, you know, at every, at every Tony's happy with what's going on at the moment. Right. What's all about the pitch, Adam? It's mean right the way across. Yes, the stadium. Absolutely everyone's got their hands up for the stadium. But all the other bits of the business, can they honestly stand up and go? We're doing the very best we are. We're the best. We're doing it, but look at the growth. No, no, they can't. And the other things, the communication, which is atrocious from the football club on the stadium, different class. We spoke about this on an episode on here. Haven't we about the comms, you know? I think we're in 2021 now. You know, I think we're getting into that realms where, you know, you're seeing clubs come out, talk more often. We never see our director of football. You know, you seem maybe the old year, the AGM, something like that. The director of football goes on. Or if you can use Google Translate on it. On a Dutch press or whatever. You'll get something from him, but there's a lot of stuff there that we don't see and we need that communication. And if you don't fill a narrative, somebody else will. Yeah, and it's about trying to keep staring the club in the right direction. So people were starting to go, actually, are we doing anything? Are we moving forward? Are we this? Are we that? Hmm. It's there for you. The information's there to say, actually, yeah, we are. Look, we've got this and we've got this. And this is what we're doing. These are out there. There's nothing with us. So you just go. You start second guessing everything and go on. It's not interested anymore. Falling out of love with it can't be bothered. It's the desire there. You say it's large people to write what articles they want. Exactly, so fill a narrative yourself. That will be my big wish for Levent Football Club, will be the communication to improve. What they should do is they should find some really good content providers who know what they're doing. And ask them for some advice. They just speak, just do their own thing and get it going on. Who haven't we spoken to? Oh, the owner. Mr Mishiri, you know, instead of talking to Jim White, talk to us, you know, the club you own. Marcel, you know, instead of talking to Vopball or whoever else in Holland, talk to us so we can start to point the club. I think people's minds would just be much more at ease. You'd know what you were following. You'd know what you were following. Yeah. Wouldn't you? We can all assume. And we can all go. But for everyone of us who assumes that the owner still is fully committed and we're moving forward and Marcel Brands is exhausted and every possible avenue to get us better players who are equipped for the Premier League. And Denise Barron-Bachsendale is driving the club to commercial greatness to get us more money and Grant Ingalls who's just joined the board. There's exercise in every way to sort the finances out. And we're all going in the right direction and all of this, that mirror. And the ADM, which is online, it's people I'm happy about. And I personally think that it should have been face-to-face. I do. I'm sorry whether the club disagree. I think it should be face-to-face. I didn't like the line that said, we don't have to have an ADM. I thought that was, to be honest, I thought that was shocking. It didn't sit well. That was in the state and I thought it was shocking. But the club for me should have done that face-to-face so people can have that conversation. But if they're not going to do it, and they're not, they've said they're not, the board needs to all be together. It needs to be live and the questions need to be open from the floor. So that if I ask, you're on the board and I ask you a question, you answer it back. You don't go, send me that question two weeks before and I'll think about what I want to say. So I catch it and you give me the answer and we can respond. And if you do it that way and go, well, we've done it this way because more people can watch it and attend it. Then I still won't be happy with it because I still feel like it needed to be face-to-face. But I would be happier than if it's all pre-planned questions. That was one thing I've raised a couple of times about, you know, well, hearing from Marcel Branson, the fans, you know, hearing some of the plans sometimes on obviously the ADMs for shareholders, you know, so I wouldn't want to comment on shareholder issues. But at the same time, I can understand all the frustration that's going on. Definitely, you know, and we mentioned about. But shareholders are either Tomlions. Yeah, they're all blues, yeah. So the spot on, what they're saying, absolutely spot on, you know, and that's how it seems. And if that's not how it seems, you know, that's not what they mean, then be clear about it. Well, the easiest way is to make sure the board's all together. Yeah, like, ask the questions, yeah. Ask the questions, let's go. And we did ask, you know, for when Marcel Branson does speak, make it accessible for all fans. Exactly. Which they've, you know, they said they will do. OK, cos nothing he says to the shareholder because he shouldn't be able to say to us. So the wider fan base, yeah. Let everyone know what the path is, let everyone know what. Cos he's done two good presentations. I've seen the presentations, he's done the good. But there's no reason why that shouldn't be just on evidence where I predict that everybody to view his presentation. So we all go, oh, OK, well, this is what he said, then, aren't there? So meeting before last, that was raising the club of the shareholders. If he does speak at it, then it will be available on the board, so we should be speaking. He should be, yeah. He has to be speaking. We'll see what happens, right? Yeah. We'll see what happens. Dave, that was a good therapeutic chat. Listen, some good stuff there, it's good that stuff is getting taken. It's good that the club are listening and trying to make some changes. I'm fuming over the Mars bars, I'm not going to lie. But it is good, and like, if you've got issues that you want to bring up, then raise them with the fans forum. Talk with the airfo, you know what I mean. And you can take that, and hopefully they'll take them to Everton and see if we can improve. And look ideas as well. Ideas, yeah. You know what I mean? Like ways to make things better. Look, we've got hundreds of thousands of fans, 32,000 season to get older. We've got people who are from remarkable careers and backgrounds, from all kinds of experience, and more, you know, better than that, the Nevitarians. So send them ideas in, you know, help us, you know, and we'll push these things and they'll be ministered and we'll carry on raising them until we make things better. Definitely. Definitely, that's what it's like. I'll put the email address in the link in the description there, so you can get in touch there with the fans forum and raise anything or, you know, ask questions there and I'm sure they'll do the best to answer them. Dave, thanks very much for coming in and having a chat. Let us know what you think in the comments section below. What should the club be doing? Any opinions on anything we've said? Let us know below. Thanks for watching. Take it easy.