 The National Assembly caucus from Benway State under the platform of the ruling of Progressive Congress, APC, accused Rev. Father Aisinth Alia of running the Benway State government like a parish. The lawmakers at the press briefing in Abuja called on President Ahmed Ballatinobu to quickly prevail on the governor before he runs the state aground. According to them, Alia's tendencies co-cost the party a defeat in subsequent elections in the state if it was not quickly called to author. The leader of the caucus and senator representing Benway North West, Senator Taito Zam, disclosed that the matter had been reported separately to the Secretary of the Government of the Federation, Senator Georgia Kume, who has been mediating to see that things were normalised. Quote, having watched with apprehension the absence of democratic leadership in Benway State in the last six months, exemplified by the arrogant and egocentric conduct of Governor Aisinth Alia, we have decided to draw the attention of Mr. President and other leaders of APC in Nigeria to seek their immediate intervention before the fortunes of APC in Benway State are totally destroyed. The caucus said, the fourth has disclosed that, Governor Alia has become more emboldened and has continued to treat us and the party in general in the most disgusting, disrespectful and ingenious manner. Joining us is the State APC Publicity Secretary Benway State Daniel Ihoum and the public affairs analyst Sam Agua. Gentlemen, welcome to plus politics. What would you make of the remark of the APC National Assembly Congressional Caucus? On its escalancy, the Reverend Father Governor of Benway State. Well, I think it's a mix. It's a mix back here because on one hand, the party is telling us members of the public that it is not the same. It's not together. There are cracks. The second perspective to it is that the party or the National Assembly members from Benway are saying it's an excellency. Georgia Kume, the SGA is not in control of the party. I say that because they have said they have tried several times to get him to comment on these issues but he has failed. So it means the party is no longer in the hands of the Secretary of the Government of the Federation, which I think that doesn't look a current picture, but that is the impression created. The third very important impression created is I think the focus is more around parties and politics than government. So I think these three impressions are quite strong. They have proven to us that APC as a party have its issues, they cannot be resolved, and when they want to call on the National Chairman and the President of the country to resolve their issues, they must resort to a press conference, a live press conference that we have to go on some retreat, take some key decisions and come forward. But I think to make it much more clearer what the National Assembly members did is just a follow-up of what the APC Chairman in the local governments in Benway showed some weeks ago. They came out and critic or argue or made a case or complain that the governor was not honoring the agreement he had with them or keeping to the terms the party won. So I think by and large APC has demonstrated just like their sister PDP that they are not together in Benway. Let me start with your last remark. The differentiated local government chairman to the best of my understanding were the PDP elected chairman that the governor initially said he was going to work with but ultimately sent parking. So which chairman are you talking about? The ones according to the caucus of his party the ones that he has unilaterally appointed as administrators or the differentiated ones that were actually elected on the platform of PDP which he had initially said he was going to work with but ultimately sent parking. Let's get that clarification for the viewing public. Right. Party chairman of the APC rose from a meeting. The local party chairman, not the local government chairman. Party chairman not democratically elected chairman the party chairman of the party APC. At the local level in Benway. Fantastic. Yeah, they were the first to fire the first shot. So what you are seeing from the National Assembly is actually a second shot. Okay. So it speaks to the fact that the recurrent misfortune of distinguished senator Akume is third time slapping him in his political life in Benway because when he anointed the first governor to succeed him that governor ultimately fell out with him. He again anointed Autumn. And Autumn also fell out with him. He for the third time anointed another character in the pressing of the incumbent and is looking like that a reverent father as somewhat also falling out with him but it seems given what you have just told us now fortunately told us about the party machinery at the local level up to the elected representatives of the party at the National Assembly they seem to still be lay out to him but he has lost the governor. Is my summation right by your own understanding? I don't think it's correct. He has not lost. I think what is happening is it's like a football match. Mind you playing Arsenal. The fans on either side or both sides trying to outsmart the other. Georgia Kuhman and Alia as far as they have made us to understand their relationship is excellent. They told us that. I am not a party person. I am speaking from the realm of a public commentator. They have consistently maintained that there is love amongst them but again what seems to be happening is like to a friend impressed some chronology some history of how Senator George Akume we are knowing somebody some problem we come. All these issues particularly what is happening now it's not about Senator George Akume in my understanding and governor Alia. No. It is about I don't want to call him hangarstone it's about what we call stakeholders people that believe they hold the party together at the various levels the gladiators in the party either for whatever reason at the moment putting pressure on Senator George Akume or maybe again putting pressure on the governor Isent Alia it's an issue of I want to believe people trying to assert people trying to create some space within and play and that space seemingly it looks as if it's not coming as quickly as many will expect hence I can guess that looks to be the problem let me see if your colleague is back on now is the gentleman back on can we do audio with him because he is strategically the spokesperson of the APC in Birmingham yes he will know better how they run their show I am speaking as a public analyst Sam the good thing about your opinion is the seeming non-partisan partisan nature of your opinion because you are speaking as a public analyst who ordinarily has no dog in the fight I want to believe no I don't have incidentally being somebody who doesn't belong to any political party you see I told somebody a while ago before coming here that political parties will continue to be our problem in this country agreed that we need political parties to get into governance they will remain that problem because inability of organizing themselves and trying to at least give some servants of ideology creates issues that ordinarily we in the public space come to get to hear about it why should national assembly members be on the national television against the governor six months in office these things should worry us these things should make us understand that these parties are really really our problem they are really really our problem I think with you respect to you I think you are a bit to a bit cosmetic about the way because the members of the national assembly would not ordinarily have been sitting before TV cameras if they were not to have gotten the nod of the secretary to the government of the federation who ordinarily is the leader of the party in their state I know that the constitution of the APC ascribes leadership to the governor but who ordinarily should be should be the sorry the de facto the de facto leader of the party in their state and that that you seem to be convinced that there is no problem between the governor and senator akume speaks a bit to me with a dint of naivety why am I saying that okay respond to that respond to that you may be right if you recall I made it very clear the two gentlemen have made us to understand there is no problem between them and you also two politicians some other two politicians told you two politicians told you that there is no problem some way let's get this right a political poetry is something that I have to do but are you telling me that you are still simply taking the opinions of two politicians who told the public that they don't have problems between them and yet you are having you are having functions building up in the party that they both belong to in their state and you seem to believe the two politicians do you let me make it clear to you I cannot believe that I have not believed that I am giving you an impression they have given us you see them go to places and say we now have the official spokesperson we now have the official spokesperson of the APC in Benway state with us hello good evening my brother you are now for this show at this point at this juncture you are the illuminator you should be bringing some light into some of the some what is happening with your party in your state why are some people frontally coming out to condemn the governor of to condemn the conduct of a governor that belongs to your party are you there yes the problem of the party can be you can I can hear the gentleman in the studio is he being heard by my public the there is no there is no let me go back to let me go back to Sam in the interim why is we starting out starting out the gremlins besieging the line of hello Sam are you still there I am with you Sam I think the gentleman was about telling me too that there is no I was hearing there is no but I am sitting there sitting there as a skeptic very skeptical I am one too you are one too yes but then I think it is about time what would you think I think about time like the members of national assembly have have seemingly called for because we have seen it we have seen it in in ondo we have seen it in in rivers they also now to also be calling for the president to help them to intervene and help them sort the mess that they seem to have created in their state what is your opinion over that you see largely I think the national assembly members from Benway were not very they have a good point they have their issues they are complaining of the governor being dictatorial complaining that there is nothing on ground to show a lot of stuff but I think the missing link in all these is simply the fact that they did not quite gauge the mood of the people of Benway because sadly for some many years if you like over 8 years or about 8 years most Benway people saw themselves practically in the governor and somehow some past months some life is trickling in like I can talk specifically about the case of my mother who is a pensioner and gets a lot steady so these issues are there so when they came up cashing in on the let me say the euphoria that greeted the 23 chairman of the party who incidentally spoke and have left the scene if only they have gauged the mood they might have taken some maybe a bit of different approach to this but you said something that struck me you say for national assembly members to have gone ahead to do a press conference a light press conference and that is a clear indication that they might have gotten some strong support from the SGF and call you made a statement it's also something I also find I agree Sam please sorry for my conjection Sam I really want us to use every opportunity we have to countenance the opinions of one of the the spokesperson of the APC in Benway I would you respond to some of the things you may have had about this unfolding drama in Benway this is so bad so so so bad we may we may have to go back to Sam to wrap up the show Sam Sam I don't know are you a Catholic or are you a Catholic or are you a Catholic because this you know what the real answer I'm Pentecostal I was good I could have simply said I'm a believer I was just going to say I was going to say that this juju that you are using for for self editing it's similar like what the members of me that is my very good friend the publicist to get to our APC but I wouldn't use juju but you also dominated the show now that I was almost going to accuse you of what you are accusing for the earlier of you came you are running the show like a parish anyway let me comment on that briefly it's very uncharitable when people make statements like a governor running something like parish but what I cannot talk much about it is that maybe the representatives were referring to how within the APC the governor may be running things like a parish because for us on the street or in the rural area we are seeing problems of things happening and we really don't know we are aware that there is a full scope in place there is a full parliament in place the civil service the bureaucracy is running so we really don't know how decisions are taken as members of the public but we imagine that every apartment of government is involved the legislators are doing their job so it does that again as a closing remark just like in rivers and on those states the people of the state are much more in tune with what they like to see rather than what the politicians want am I right that is the scenario here in Benway people want to see governance and less of partisan politics thank you very much let's leave it at that juncture thank you so so much it's unfortunate that tried as we did we could not get as a result of telecoms challenges at the result of my juju you said it now have a lovely lovely time Christmas and holiday season