 Okay, we are live for another all the time chats. How are you guys doing? It has been a week and I can say that with certainty. It's been absolutely crazy for me lately. There's been so much going on within my family life at the moment. It's been insane. Hi, Jamie thanks for joining. It's waiting to a few more people join. If you haven't been to any of these auto time lives before, this is basically an opportunity for you to ask any questions about autism, about me, about anything to do with living as a human being in this modern society that we have. So questions are very welcome. If we don't have any questions, I'll probably have a look at some of the other posts that I've done. I'll try to give a bit more explanations around them. Something like that. One second. Hello, realist Katie. Do I have any siblings? I do. I have a brother, younger brother. Katie Riegs asks, hey, any advice for someone waiting to get an evaluation but hesitant? If you're waiting to get any evaluation, then great. I think that's really good. I think for a lot of people, the hesitancy around going for like a diagnosis or something, I think tends to be either one more related to like that concept of like autistic imposter syndrome that a lot of people have. Or I guess sort of for some people, the whole process of going through the diagnostic routes can sometimes feel a bit intense. And you're not guaranteed to get anyone who is. You're guaranteed to have someone assess you, but they don't always have a very clear picture of autism from both the medical and the lived experience angle. So it's varied in the, you know, and how well that is and how easy the process is. I mean, if I were you, I would definitely go for it. But again, like, it really depends on whether you feel like you can apply for any of the supports or get any of the adjustments that would come with getting a diagnosis or whether you're just wanting to kind of solidify it for yourself saying like, hey, look, I probably know that I'm a autistic, but it's just going to help me feel a bit more certain in that if I get a diagnosis. I think some people that can be quite important. Not everybody to have diagnosis is, you know, definitely, definitely there. A lot of people, a lot of people don't really care if you officially diagnosed or not within the autistic community at least is my husband. He's seeking my son, seeing my son who is diagnosed looking at himself and thinking about getting a diagnosis. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, the chances are that, you know, if it's in the family already, there's a good chance that he might be as well. So I'd probably take that as a good, a good pointer. There is like a, there is a good genetic component of it. How am I doing right now? Thanks for asking, Jamie. As I said, it's been a bit of a crazy, crazy week. One of my, one of my, my elderly relatives has recently gone into hospital. So I've been supporting my family around that. It's been really, really tough time these past few days being in and out of hospital. So it's, it's definitely been strange and I am very tired at the moment. I've hardly been on social media as I usually am. So comments and stories are not being, not being flown as much as usual, but I'm sure you can understand about that. It's, you know, it's been, it's been a rough time if I'm being honest, but, you know, it happens as is life, I suppose. Hi, Dr. Anil Khan. Nice to see you. Jacob Bro Sevara asks, have you ever heard of or tried Ashwagandha helped me so much? Yeah, I did. I went for a big stage at university where I was researching supplements for like mental health because, you know, I've been on pharmaceutical meds for depression and anxiety for a long time. And they've not always been that helpful. And the ones that do tend to help a lot and sort of help, help me a lot. Where things like, like benzodiazepines, like the, the ones that you can get tolerance to and get, and some people get addicted to. So I did, I did had a look, have a look at different things. I looked at rhodiola, I looked at lavender oil, I looked at lemon balm, chamomile, valerian for sleep. I also looked, looked at Ashwagandha as well. So it's a really interesting one. It's the class, it's a class of supplement called an adaptogen, which basically means that I mean, I think it's, I think it's related to like cortisol. Like for a lot of people, adaptogens can help with anxiety, which has, has been something, but I think as well, there's also been some research around, you have an effect on like your hormone levels and stuff. So I definitely be a bit careful with that, especially if you're on, on other medications, but it might be worth a try. If you, if you haven't tried it out before, it tastes awful. I did get it in capsule form, but it was too expensive. I got it in the powdered form, but it tasted rank to get the effective amount of dose and stuff like that. And I think one of the issues with supplements in general is that unlike pharmaceutical drugs and not always, they don't always have the highest level of quality control on what you get. So it's varied. There has been some research into Ashwagandha in terms of, I think testosterone management for, for people who have low, low testosterone. That and some others called like, there's one called Fidogeo-Grestus. And there's another, I think Tonka-Ali's also be something that has gone around a lot. They're really, it's really interesting, but they have been helpful for me, definitely. It's definitely interesting. Have you tried it before? How have you found it? Do you have it on a regular basis or not? I'd be interested to know. Thanks for that, Jacob. Where does psychedelic therapy stand in the UK? I'm pretty sure it's either very tightly regulated within scientific labs or just non-existent. It's definitely not something that people do, I think, in the UK as of now. But I know that there's been some really revolutionary studies around it in terms of depression and in terms of even with things like addiction as well. It's been particularly, I don't know, you have like a few compounds, don't you? You've got the mushrooms and you got the lysergic acid. So it's definitely something that I wish scientists could explore more, but because of its classification as sort of an illicit drug, it's interesting. I'm wanting to get someone on the podcast at some point to talk about it because I know that particularly in America there's sort of a big community around that kind of thing. That kind of thing, sort of the awareness of different chemicals, drugs, whatever you want to call them that are psychedelics. So it's definitely something worth, it's something that I've considered a lot with my mental health. Not something that I would get, it would be something that I would go to the States or something for therapy. It's something that I've thought about a lot. I think maybe in the future, once I get a bit more sort of financially stable and all up with my business and stuff, it might be something that I explore more. I think the issue with them is that a lot of the pharmaceutical drugs that you have, they tend to be serotonergic, so they tend to act on serotonin. I think the psychedelics is also the act on serotonin. So I think if you were going to try something like that, go into a therapeutic clinic that does that kind of thing, then you would have to probably wean off all of your meds, which I'm not sure about at the moment, to be honest. I don't know if I'd be able to do that. I think you have to be off them for like a couple of months or a month or so. But again, there has been some really good research behind it. I wish that there wasn't this kind of big stigma around things like that, because in theogens, I've not heard that before. So Jacob was asking about if I tried ashwagandha. He said that he's experienced less fatigue, reduced anxiety, better mood. You have great knowledge, whether I thank you very much. I've researched a lot of these things because I was really into it when I was studying my biomedical sciences at Manchester. It was definitely not part of the course, but I definitely went in and did some research myself. Hello, Hayes T. Thank you for joining the YouTube livestream. What would you advise you give my 13-year-old son who just had verbal diagnosis but doesn't want to talk about it? I wouldn't give them anything. I definitely go for a doctor on that. I think there's a very heavy, heavy sort of influence that has been a part of their parent communities, especially in the US around diet and different supplements and medications and stuff. If I was you, I'd probably just stay out of that. The only thing that I had when I was younger was Amiga Freeze, which helps everyone, kids, adults, whoever. That can be really good. Hayes T says, anytime, just nice to be able to catch up one another for a moment. Well, you're very welcome to ask any questions if you're interested in anything related to the podcast or anything like that. So go for it. Ooh, Brie said, I've been doing ketamine therapy in the States, and it has been incredibly helpful and a very interesting experience. I can imagine. Yeah, I've looked into that as well. I think it's like SSS ketamine. I want to really stay away from talking about too many of these things on Instagram Live, but it is definitely interesting. It's something that I wish had a bit more research backing behind it, but it's early days for that kind of thing. I think it could change a lot of people's lives if scientific communities and governments would be a bit more lenient around research. I wish that was the case, but, you know, just realize that I'm on the chat. Men Sashi says, hi, Thomas, hope you're doing well. Hope you're doing well, too. Thanks for joining the stream. I just want to say as well, if anyone can let me know on Instagram, do you guys have the, see like a little badge button on there? Because I've recently set up like badges on my lives. I don't know if it, because I can't see it on my screen. I don't know if you have that. I don't know if I have that yet on stream. I'd be interested to know. Naziva says, my 10-year-old son has aggressive behavior when he won't, when we don't listen to him, he hits us or hurts himself. That sounds tough. I'm sorry to hear about that. Relisgate says probiotics. Yeah, probiotics is another thing that I think is interesting. It's that whole idea of the gut-brain barrier. I actually did one of my papers at university on the gut-brain access. It's really interesting because a lot of the serotonin that we make is actually found within the gut. We have certain bacteria that produce serotonin. I think you can also get supplements like 5-HTP, and that's one of the precursors to serotonin, and when that stuffs in your gut. Bacteria makes it as well, but it also converts it into serotonin for your brain and stuff. It's really interesting. They've also shown some links between depression and anxiety and gut health and stuff. It's really interesting. It's a very widespread system. It's really interesting to learn about. And then obviously nowadays there's a lot of talk about processed foods and things like that, and whether we're getting enough of these pre-biotic things that can help our gut health and stuff. So it's interesting. Hay's tea. My pronunciation is all over the shop today. Does anyone else end up with sensory issues when going wild when unwell? I got a cold, tested negative for COVID, but it's like it's hell because of the sensory nastiness mostly. Hay's. We'll go with Hay's. There's certain aspects to being sick and ill that I find really hard, particularly when I get the same feeling when I eat peanut butter, where you get a bit gross and stuff in your mouth and all that. And you find it hard to, you feel like your mouth is really thick and grim. I find it really difficult sometimes, especially like stuff around breathing as well. I think that can definitely cause some sensory difficulties for me, definitely. Docs suggested shocking my brain. I said, no, I think that's probably a good call on yourself. Please don't do that. It's a bit like, it's one of those weird sort of therapies and stuff. I would definitely stay away from that stuff if possible. And if for some people there can be some useful utility in like, for some people who have like epilepsy, like cause with epilepsy, you usually have like a sight in your brain that starts off like seizures and stuff. And sometimes some of the therapies that they use for those intense seizures is by like severing the neurons in that area of the brain that causes the seizure. So I think in some cases, but I would always say like stuff like that, it needs to be thought about seriously over time and have all the stuff considered, especially when it's around anxiety and mental health and stuff. It's a very extreme thing to go with, I would say. I've swapped out my Pepsi, my two litre Pepsi bottle that I just keep seeing to have on stream every time that I get life. I've got some electrolyte drink today, so we're going a bit healthier. Didn't get some of those sodium potassium chemicals in me. Oh yeah, I hate that same for breathing. I'm a nose breather and I can't stand having to breathe through my mouth because of dry mouth. Yeah, I get that. Definitely. Oh, Mary says I found your page so helpful. I am very, very glad. Oh, so my buttons are, my badges aren't here. Okay, I'll have to check that out at some point. But if you can see the badges, you're very welcome to send me a badge if you want for doing these lives. It's not, be far not important. Well, not important, but it's not needed. There is at the bottom. Mary says your gut is your larger brain, totally, totally. This is a really big part of it. It's crazy. Nassifa says I'm so happy to know through you and some of the other influencers who have autism that autism is not a disability. I think, I don't know, it's a very controversial topic about autism being a disability. I mean, you know, it's, I think in a lot of ways we are. But I'd say that the reason for the majority of the ways that we are disabled is because of the social environment that we have, you know, it's not necessarily. Thank you for all the hearts. I appreciate it. Just spamming that heart button. Shady Raccoon says, well, I know this will sound childish, but I'll be having a dental appointment soon. And I wanted to bring a plushie so to ease my anxiety. I'm really fond of it and I'm scared people will laugh at me. Um, yeah, it's, it's, I think the most important thing in that situation because dentists and hospitals can always be really tough. And, you know, the issue with people is that they can be very judgmental about those kind of things. And if you find that it eases your anxiety, you know, I just get used to the fact like that, you know, whenever you do anything in public, someone's always going to have some weird interpretation about what that means for you as a person. I think a lot of a lot of the stuff around like on masking it's it's a lot about, you know, realizing that it's a lot about weighing up in your head. People's ideas and interpretations of you versus who you are, you know, and trying to advocate for who you are, I guess a bit more. So I'd say, yeah, go for it. Do it. I think some people can could make a comment about it, but just just brush it off. Try your best to brush it off and not think about it. If it's something that helps you a lot, then, you know, I would do that. Dental appointments are hard for me as well. So anything that can help with that anxiety is going to be best. It's tough, isn't it? I think the worst part of me is the taste of the chemicals that you use. So I'm not going to talk too much about it because give me PTSD or something. Oh, I'm worried you bought a badge. Wow, I'm not really sure about what these badges do. But I appreciate the badge. Thank you, Omari. You're the first person to buy a badge. You can put it on your resume. Thank you, Omari. Appreciate it. Disabled, not disorder. Oh, you've bought a badge as well, Nazifa. Thank you. Oh my God. I've never seen anyone use badges before. So I've got no idea what they do. I wasn't sure if it would be one of those Twitch things where it comes up with different messages and stuff. You know, you have people give donations to Twitch streamers and it comes up with a little flashy animation and a graphic. I'm not sure. I've never seen anyone use badges before, but thank you guys, I appreciate it. Brie says, I bring fidgets to every appointment, doctor, therapy and dentist. No one has ever commented or cared. Do what makes you feel most comfortable. Very well said, very well said. Releska, he says, if I go to hospital, I need a safe person to be with me. Definitely, definitely. Oh, okay. So the badges I have learned that you have a little badge next to your name. I don't know if it's for like the length of the live stream or not. We'll have to see next time if it's like a, I'm going to search it actually. I should really look into this stuff. Not very good at this. No, that's Instagram. I want to see what Instagram badges do. What do Instagram badges do? Instagram badges are a feature which allows you to show your sport created during live stream. When you purchase a badge during a live stream, a heart icon appears next to your name in the comments. Badges will remain next to your name during that live. Okay, so that's a bit rubbish in that. I would expect it to like, like happen like over the course of like multiple live streams or like at least for a month or so. I appreciate it anyway. Thank you. Mary says, today I realized in the bar by how much of a challenge my 13 year old son will struggle. Yes, always fighting for inclusion and people not realizing why my son has a stone face. Yeah, there was a, what did you say, I made a post a while ago on this concept called for regulation on my profile. There is like, you know, like when you go to people's profiles is like this sort of line of different icons below like the description that I've got a section on there, which is it looks like kind of like a newspaper or a book. If you check those out, like either, you know, after the live stream or something, you'll be able to find like different, like I've compiled different posts that I've made into like different categories. And I think there's this, there's one of those that have the the for regulation post on them. And it's really interesting because, you know, for a lot of us, most people assume that if someone is, you know, as you said, stone face and not really having many sad or frightened or scared expressions that they're okay. Whereas we know that with autistic people, we tend to hide it very much so I've had many situations where people have come up to me like, whether I'm a competition sports competition. And they said, oh, you're always like the calmest person in the venue. You always look so chilled. And that's because of that. But, you know, inside, you know, probably about one out of three times I ever did competitions. I almost always had like a meltdown beforehand, or a panic attack or something. So it was really weird when people would come up to me and say that I was like, I look so chill. But yeah, I think it's worth, it's definitely worth Barbara's doctors dentists knowing a bit more about this because you can unknowingly, they can unknowingly do a lot of like traumatic things to the person if they don't accurately explain what's happening, allow them to process and, you know, check in with them now and again see how they're doing. I think that's definitely something that needs to be implemented a lot more in healthcare settings because it's a really big factor. And being able to feel comfortable or at least tolerate healthcare settings, it's very, very important. You know, it's, I know a lot of people and even myself, you know, I will avoid going to the hospital for any reason really. I don't know. It's just, it's just not a very nice environment for me. Yeah, I can relate to that. Haircuts are a nightmare for me yet. Asla, Milai, come, my brother, what does that mean? I'm sorry, I'm very, I'm very ignorant to different languages. I'm assuming it's a greeting or a nice thing. I appreciate it. Thank you for that. Quack. AGDN says, I totally agree about the social environment. It's people who accept others with autism and understand each other besides communication. Yeah, totally, totally. It's in the TikTok, the animation gift. Oh, it is. You should join through TikTok. You'll get more views than Instagram. Yeah, but I don't know. I like Instagram. It's my safe space. I don't know. It's, I mean, I join in on YouTube as everyone on my own YouTube that I do do the live streams. Hi, Daniel, you did make it for the live stream. You know it's official, says keep up the good work, man. Thank you very much. App 10, Loki Snail. Love that name. Greetings, sir. Greetings to you. Welcome to the live. Just so you guys know the new ones, if you want to ask any questions, autism, personal related, please just go for it. Don't worry about the questions. If I don't, if I don't want to answer them, I won't. Amari asks, how do you feel about people wearing lanyard badges? Oh, Releska says sunflower lanyard. You know, I would probably wear something like that. But I'm, I'm definitely like, I'm very, very willing and anyone who meets me for like the first time. I almost always mention that I'm autistic, like, pretty much within this one conversation that we've had. So it's never really something that I tend to go for. But I know that for some people it can be quite helpful. I just don't really like sunflowers. I'm just not a fan. It's not my, it's definitely not my favorite flower. That's just probably one of the reasons why I just don't wear them. It's really weird. Thanks to you, I finally gathered up the courage to go and get tested. Oh, good. I am very glad about that. I hope it's, I hope it's been well for you so far. I know that it can take a lot of time and a lot of energy to go for those diagnosis and things like that. So, you know, I wish you very much luck with that. I've been struggling. Millie X Miles says I've been struggling with autistic meltdowns and sensory overload recently. Do you have any tips to help? I'm off to uni next year. So I want to find different coping mechanisms beforehand. So I can definitely talk about that a little bit on here. I do have, as I said, a section on my page, which is looks kind of like a newspaper if you click on it. I do have a whole section designated for overload panic attacks, meltdowns, things like that. I think as far as splitting it up into like separate groups, like you have prevention, which is probably the most key to that. A lot of it is understanding and checking in with yourself and making proactive supports a part of your daily life. That could be things like noise counselling headphones, shades, fidget toys, stim related things. And also if you're going to a social event, giving yourself time to relax, recuperate before and after. Those things, definitely really big ones. Managing your social and sensory environment proactively is always really good. I think for a lot of people when you go through the mental health systems and you get advice around anxiety, they'll give you a lot of different strategies that you can use for anxiety. But the problem with that stuff is that you've got to notice that you're feeling anxious. Before you're like in tipping point. So, I mean, there's lots of ways that you can do that. And I'm going to be pointing out a course at some point on emotional development. Stuff around alexifying me and being able to notice taking from my experiences and my methods of overcoming that kind of alexifying. Like hay is that you get when you're autistic. I think that's really important for implementing those strategies. But even if you don't have that sort of ability to just know how anxious you are and know how overloaded you are, you can still do a lot of proactive things and you can put stuff in place beforehand. In terms of the actual meltdown, you could argue there's not really much you can do. A lot of people, before they go into meltdowns, they'll have shutdowns, where they'll become somewhat nonverbal, not be able to communicate as much, become very dissociated, things like that. I'd say that in situations where you do feel that sort of sense of dissociation and a bit like, you know, like the world's becoming like a vignette on your life, you know, you're getting like tunnel vision and stuff. I take that as a situation to go right, hey, things are not good. You need to go on de-stress and using that as an indicator as much as you can. That can be helpful. But when you're in an actual meltdown, a lot of people, they don't have the ability to function. So, you know, it's, there's not really much that you can do, but there's a lot that you can do in terms of if you have people around you to make them aware of what to do and how to support you during those times. And then lastly, there's the aftercare, because, you know, after the meltdown, it's not like you just return to normal. You're not usual self, you know, it takes a lot out of you in terms of the energy. So, it's always important to make sure that you try and reduce the amount of socializing sensory stuff and productivity related things after you've had a meltdown, because you'll be a lot more sensitive to things in general. And there's also a lot of work that you probably have to do emotionally, sort of to do with your self-esteem, because I know that for a lot of people, there can be sort of this experience of shame that's around meltdowns or embarrassment, especially if you're around other people. So, you know, I think a lot of attention should be put on to trying to raise your mood up after a meltdown. Doing stuff that you usually do that makes you feel good or makes you feel good about yourself. Those would be the things, you know, there's a lot of other stuff. As I said, I have a section on my profile which covers prevention, covers support during meltdowns and covers aftercare, which you're very welcome to check out whenever you feel able. But I'd say just general uni support. You've got to have your supports set up. You've got to find your disability service. If you can, let your tutors know, let the people around you know. If you're with housemates, let them know and show them what to do if you are in those situations, if you feel comfortable enough with them. So, there's a lot of things that you can do, but as I said, it's not going to be like handed to you on a plate. Like, you would expect it to at university. I wish that was the case, but it's not and a lot of that stuff needs to be done proactively. You've got to search things out, search supports out, things like that. This is good meltdown advice. Good. I'm glad. I'm feeling very behind on my chat. I told my doctor that about being diagnosed or ADHD and he told me everyone has autism and ADHD these days. No, they do not. People are just knowing that their autism took an ADHD these days. Before, they just wouldn't have any supports. Just wouldn't know. Success life skills services. Keep up the great work. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. I'm going to check some of the YouTube comments before I get like behind on that as well. One thing I will say is the British airport, Sunflower Land Yard is a life saver for autistics, totally. Yeah, I would agree about that as well. Managed to get fast tracked through passport control, missed a 45 minute queue of angry people. Okay, so maybe I might take a Sunflower Land Yard if I go abroad anyway. I'm going to take that piece of advice. Thank you for that. Daniel Gardler says creating a sensory area at home can help too. Even an LED bulb that you can change your lighting. Yeah, I've got one of those. I can change the color on it and stuff. It's really helpful for setting the mood. If I'm just waking up, I'll have it blue to get the blue light in to wake me up. During the day, I'll have it white and then at night time, I'll have it orange. It really does help having those kind of things around. After my doc told me, boy, it pains me to yell it to tell you. But yeah, you have asperges, sinned. I was almost ready to open up a bottle of champagne because that explains why I have the issues I have. And I need to bow down to you and shake your hand for that inspiration. Oh, well, I'm very glad. I know for me it was absolutely life-changing to know that I was autistic even at the age of 10. So I'm glad that I've been able to help with that. Really do. Late diagnosis can be great for explaining a lot. True, true. Don't worry about your English, man. I can't speak any other language, so, you know, you've got that on me. How did you cope in mainstream senior school lessons? How did you get extra help or any HCP? It's so hard to get anything for my son. It very much depends on the school because although there are policies in place that should be enforced by your school, they don't always do that. And a lot of teachers can be sort of a bit difficult just for the sake of being difficult around things like sensory supports. I'd say if I was in your situation, I would just be annoying them pretty much all the time until they get it sorted. I didn't have much support other than having the ability to stick my hand up and get out of lessons. If I was having like a sensory overload or something, I didn't really get much other than that. Mensashi says over the last couple of months, I've been on a journey of uncovering my highly massed autism. My question is, is the tendency to stick to one safe person a common trait of autism? Thank you. Yeah, I'd say yeah. Definitely. Especially in different social environments that you go to. I think whenever I go somewhere, it either has to be a place that I know with people that I don't, or with a person that I know in a place that I don't know. Because although I can do that stuff, I think it's just always good to have some level of support or certainty in different environments. I think as well, we can also be subject to a lot of, you know, I'm going to do a post next week on this concept called make crime, where autistic people get manipulated in friendships for all sorts of different things. And we know about isolation and bullying and the fact that neurotypicals just immediately label us as weirdos or strange people. Just because they don't understand us and the way that we present and work. So it is a tough, it can be tough sometimes. And so when you find someone who really gets you and someone that you feel like you can relate to and someone who listens to you and takes in what you're telling them, you know, obviously that's going to be helpful for anyone. So I'd say that you're probably right, but I don't think it's necessarily something to do with us that we just find one person and we just attach ourselves to them. I think it's just because we just have such a hard time with other people in life. And it can sometimes be really good to have that one person that we can go to to support us. You know, I have one in work, I have one in my friend life, I had one in university, you know, so I definitely empathize with that. I don't know if it's, you know, abtensors school is a hellhole. I wish I was into sport all my life. I defended myself by harming those who were not fast to run. Are you talking about like within sports? I hope so. Marzix, Marz, so thank you so much. This is so helpful. I'll check it in the page. You're very welcome. Yeah, I will try. I'll try to get as much support as I'm entitled to. Luckily, my uni isn't too far from home, which makes me feel a bit better too. Totally, totally can really help. From Laura today asks, can you talk a little bit about NT versus ND communication or how they communicate together? I think it's a hard one to talk about generally because everyone is different. And even neurotypical, some of them, you know, they like direct communication being quite blunt, just as they are. So, you know, I'd say that the biggest thing is the prevalence of indirect communication among neurotypicals. So a lot of neurotypicals, they prefer to communicate with a mixture of direct communication and indirect stuff like emotions, vocal tonality, facial expressions, body language, to kind of morph the meaning of what they're saying. And although that can sometimes be nice, somewhat, to emphasize things and perhaps add a different element to communication, quite often it comes across as very vague to us and they also don't tend to take seriously a lot of our direct communication. You know, if we're having a tough time, but we don't show it on our face or in our body, they don't really take us as seriously as they should do. And that can be really tough in medical settings. That stuff around for regulation, you know, just because, you know, if we come up and say something directly to someone, it's usually because we mean that. Whereas for most people, they can find it hard to take it seriously unless they have those indirect components. So that's definitely, that's definitely a big difference in the way that we communicate. I think as well with autistic people that I've talked to, it tends to be the case that we don't really go through the same sort of social norms, small talk stuff that most people do. We just kind of shoot straight for a topic and just talk about that. I think we tend to like it when there is some sense of boundary around the topic. So like if we're going to like a social group or a club, you know, we're expecting to talk about that, that thing. And if we're out in public, out in the wild, it can sometimes be harder for us to start those conversations and exactly navigate them as well, as well as we absolutely fumble that up. With neurotypicals, it can be hard when there is no boundary to the conversation. So I think that's definitely a big one. We don't tend to follow the whole narrative of getting into a conversation and ending it. It tends to be a little bit more straight in, straight out kind of attitude to talking, which I find a bit better because you know, who likes small talk? I think most neurotypicals will say that they don't like it. How's the weather? How are you doing? Even though I don't want to know how you're doing. I just want you to say, I'm okay and ask me if I'm okay and then I will say I'm okay even if I don't know. Or even if I don't feel okay, I will say that I'm okay just because it's a social norm. Crazy. It's insane, some of these things, but I think there's two that are definitely aspects that differ from neurotypicals to autistic people in general. Not everybody, of course, but I would definitely say those. Public meltdowns are safer with a sunflower on the yard. Probably. Definitely think you don't have to like tell people all the time. I used to secretly leave school. Yeah, they'd be around the bush with that indirect communication. And the funny thing is, is that I made a post on it. It's called the weirdest neurotypical trait, which is all about indirect communication and how it's just annoying and awful and rubbish. And a lot of people, even neurotypicals, they will leave conversations, not exactly knowing what the person is asking for or what the person is genuinely trying to put across because there's just so much of this interpretation that's needed. And a lot of people, because they communicate with that indirect communication, they don't necessarily ask about it because that would be direct and sometimes seen as inappropriate or rude or something like that, or a dig or something insulting. So it's funny how that works. We get told a lot to read the room, that kind of thing. But for a lot of people, their interpretations of different situations are very different. So it's not always as easy as that, even if you're neurotypical. Any asks, what do you think about medication if a child can't visit school? I don't like to give some medication, but where's my ad blocker come up? I don't want that. I read. Yeah. I think it's always good to try and find other options than medication, if you can. I don't know much about that. And as I said, I don't tend to do a lot of work around kids. I tend to talk about the autistic adult experiences because I haven't done a lot of research and a lot of focus on the children. It's mostly on the adults that I do it because... But I think even if you are looking for support and information around autistic children, you can learn a lot and understand a lot through talking to or reading stuff from autistic adults. Because what we really are, we are autistic children who have grown up into autistic adults. So we tend to have a lot of hindsight analysis on how we were when we were younger, which can be helpful. I know for me, medication around mental health was pivotal in me being okay as I am now. But then again, it's very dependent and I would always try and do a lot of research around it before you decide to give medication. Even if the doctors are saying this might be a good idea, taking this ADHD medication, there are a lot of downsides to it. And there are a lot of long-term things because it's particularly for ADHD, it's an amphetamine. It is a drug, although it's pharmaceutical in nature and it's researched for that purpose. It's definitely not an innate substance that just improves everything without any issues. More about UK travel staff. Do you have any advice towards therapy? Because I have a dilemma regarding CBT and neurodiversity as our cognitive points are different. Totally. The use of psychotherapy counselling. There needs to be more autism specialists that are informed by lived experience that do these kind of professions because the thing is that a lot of these professionals, they don't have those aspects. They don't know what a lexifimer is. They don't know what full regulation is. They don't understand or want to use the communication that autistic people use being more direct and giving more evidence and somewhat trying to educate us in a way that helps us understand different things to do in mental health. There is a bit of a disconnect in how well we as autistic people get on in mental health settings and support. It's something that definitely needs to change. I think in any situation, no matter what therapy or anything that you go for for mental health, if you can find someone who is willing to listen to your experiences and take them on board and not just kind of shove them to the side and just say like, well, this is what the research shows and this is what will help you. You want someone who is open-minded enough and someone who is intrigued enough by your experience to listen to you and offer different options that are not on this very tight mental health route that they have in their heads. That is the most important thing. Someone that you feel comfortable with and who will view you and listen to your experiences honestly and not without judgment or without pushing their ideas and their experiences of what is wrong to you. That is the most important thing, I think. It is very, very, very important. You have got the bathroom pass as well, me too. Looking back, if me and my friends had been diagnosed and had the ability to leave to take a moment when we were struggling in school, we probably would have been a lot more manageable for us, totally. If you don't feel like you can sort of escape and have some level of regulation within your day, it is going to be very hard to feel comfortable going to school if you feel like you are just in it and you just can't get a break from it. It definitely needs to be something that is more important. Oh, you did wrestling, okay. That is cool, that is cool, very cool. I was wrestling professionally, sort of prepping for a city competition. That is awesome. One dude in school bullied me to the point, even I had enough. I grabbed him and suplexed him head first. Oh my God, okay. Wow, oh my God, yeah. Bullies are awful. No, I am glad they didn't. I wish just teachers had a bit more agency and that kind of thing because that is disgusting. I quickly learnt that not bad you, no agency, escaped someone to talk, small talk. Adtan says, also I found you when I was getting off of my antidepressants, your voice sounds so peaceful and like I have an older bro who slowly and quietly explains how things work, helps me in sleep. Oh, I am glad. Someone else mentioned before that my voice is very soothing. So maybe I need to start an ASMR channel. Autism ASMR. Yeah, now we have a very floral tape measure. Can you hear the... Yeah, so just going to measure your cranium. Oh, it seems... Interesting. Yes, it seems very normal to me. What's this we have? We have a fidget spinner. Oh my God. 100% maybe. Welcome to the Forty Auties sleep time experience. Today we are going to do a podcast. We are going to do a role play. You are coming into a... I don't know what situations could you give for like an autism support role play. I have no idea. Oh my God. I am glad I have been helpful at 10. Really am. It's in discussion I am having with my psych at the moment. Thank you, it's nice to hear. I am not crazy. No, it's totally not. You've got to do a lot of work to find a good psychologist. You are definitely not alone in that. I haven't found one that has been helpful to me just forever in the long term. It's very much an up and down process. When you have general healthcare and you are going through that system, it can be very hard to find someone who can stably support you for the entirety of your mental health journey. That's a tough thing. You might find one, you might be with them for a year. Once that year is over, you will have to file for another thing and you will get a different psychologist. It's a tough process. I think for me a lot of the useful things that I have done to help my mental health. It's a lot of personal education, personal learning that I did to try and help me out in those situations. Life has its ups and downs. You guys are having ups. As I said, this week has been a bit crazy. I wouldn't say that I'm in an upstate lately. It's been tough. A lot of negative things with my family happening at the moment. A big part of how I work all about understanding the experience of kids and advocating for themselves and their way of doing things totally. That's really important. I think learning self-advocacy as young as possible is really important because even a lot of adults would do it for you. You've got to sometimes just be a bit more like, hey look, I need these supports. This is what's going to help me get my education better or get a job better or anything like that. Really important, that self-advocacy aspect. Hello happy autistic lady. Nice to see you. Soothing in day to it. I almost forgot the OT time. Welcome girl from Planet Aspie. If you haven't guys already, I would definitely go and check out the girl from Planet Aspie YouTube channel. She also has a Discord community page chat thing which her and her husband I think run. It's really good. We've been talking to each other and we're going to be setting up a different Discord site. Everyone is on Discord to have that community around the podcast and have a forum where people can come in who can talk about things which aren't necessarily related to Instagram comments. So that's going to be really interesting. I will at one point, once it's been all set up and stuff like that, I'm going to put it in my link tree so that people can head over and join. It might be a really good opportunity for us to have chats and stuff. Instagram message me on Instagram tends to be very varied and it's efficacy. Oh man, it's sometimes not the best. Hi Alyssa. Social stories, you could script. Yeah, ASMR social stories. You could script situations like the doctors or hairdressers. Like a neurodiversity inclusive business situation. I don't know about that. Maybe. I don't know what kind of a market is available to autism ASMR. I don't think anyone does it. Maybe. Who knows? I might give it a go. The thing is I've got so many things that I want to do but although I could very much do like an ASMR thing, the thing is that that requires me to edit it and promote it and do all of the other stuff around it. So it's sometimes not the best. I don't know if I tried DBT. I think I might have tried DBT before. As I said, I've been in the mental health systems for ages. It says Instagram is blocked in Russia. Oh my God, it's crazy. I got a copyright notice from Russia for some reason. It's like saying that this short cannot be shown in Russia. I was like, okay. I don't know if that's my fault or not. Interesting. Yeah, me too. My family is having a hard time at the moment. Turn off social media. The subliminal message is brainwash and create a nasty view on things. The world ain't as bad as the news. I don't know about brainwashing, but I think it can definitely, because of the nature of news, it can definitely be very negative focused. Definitely. Really is such a passion of mine. I want to teach myself and how to learn to do that for myself. And Marie says, really appreciate you. Appreciate you too. Thank you. Thank you for buying a badge, which I had no idea of what it does. I appreciate it. I don't know, like... I don't know. I'm not very open to all social media stuff sometimes. Rise with Katie says, love sharing your content with the families I support as a great model, great role model of owning your narrative engines and speaking out positively for us. Thank you. You're very welcome. I'm happy that I've been able to somewhat provide that to some people. I appreciate it. Sasha the Blue Isle says, when my most favorite TV show ended and the channel confirmed it, won't be another season. Couldn't help but cry. Is it related to special interests and is it something normal? Well, I wouldn't worry about it something being normal, but I know that for me, when I'm having a really hard time in life and I find a show that just kind of gets me, I had that situation with Wednesday when it came out. I don't know. I just got very into it and I kind of, I watched it like three times in a row, like the whole thing. Just because I just didn't want to like escape from this like different reality. I think for a lot of people, that can be the case, especially if you're finding life hard and becoming a bit disillusioned with life and people. I think sometimes those types of things can be really grounding for us. But no, no, I completely understand that. It's, you know, it's sometimes quite hard to kind of say, okay, things are finished and move on and go back to normal life. Very much to me feels like this existential thing. Like, if I get so into it, I kind of feel like I'm a part of that world. And then once it ends, it's like, damn, what am I going to do now? I'm going to have to like be a part of my own life. Crazy. Thanks Sasha. If no one does that, you do it. Scratching Trotboard ASMR. An ASMR that would be sick. Oh man. Maybe, maybe. Yeah, I'll do a poll. I don't know, would I be able to use this mic? The issue is that I find it very difficult to take things seriously in life. So if I'm doing something where it's like a role play situation, I don't know, I just feel like I won't be able to play into it too much. I'd probably be laughing too much. I don't know. I'll have to like record one and see what my mic sounds like in terms of ASMR. I'll have to like find some... I mean other people were saying that they wanted me to do like a Twitch stream and do a video game or something. Which I'm open to. But again, it's like editing. Like fitting it all in. It's hard. It's tough. That's the hardest bit about content creation. The actual making the actual thing. It's the stuff around it. Justin says, thanks for doing this chat and being engaging you one of the few. You're very welcome. Very welcome. Stop scratching the chalkboard. Yeah, well we're not going to do any chalkboard ASMR. I think that would probably make me want to scratch my eyes out. I do not like doing that. I've noticed a big thing with ASD is finding things cringe. Possibly. I think... I don't know. I feel like we see... Especially for myself, I see past. Like I watch people in the media. I watch people online. Taking themself and their lives so seriously. It just feels like a bit. And just... I don't know. I feel like there's a lot of seriousness to people sometimes. And I just don't understand why they want it to be that way. And I just find it a bit cringy that they just really want to put out this certain persona or way of being out into the world without having any kind of human quality to them. I don't know. It's weird. I think definitely some people can be... The whole social situation thing. It does make me kind of burst out and laugh to some times because I just... I find the whole small talk thing just really funny to watch people do. Left to ASMR maybe. Yeah. Cringy ASMR. Cringy autism ASMR. Or Twitch. See, that is the thing. Well, we got to pick one. We can't go with both. What is it? ASMR or Twitch? If you need help with Twitch or... I may be recruiting for free to help. Well, you know... That would be great. I don't expect you to though because it is work on your side of things. But, you know... I think one of the issues with me doing Twitch is that I'm on a Mac. And my Mac is not the most up-to-date thing in the world. So... That may be a barrier, but I suppose I could play some really low-bit games or something. Rise of the Cate says, same way NT's laugh at us, I guess. Doesn't make sense to them, but it goes both ways, totally. It's all about your frame, you know. Whereas they may find our behaviour a bit weird and cringy or whatever. We can find their behaviour weird and cringy and whatever. So it's funny that. I think a lot of what I tried to do with my work is to try and flip the script a little bit. I think somebody... Somebody characterised it as some really inflammatory word before. I can't remember what it was called. Like... It's quite inappropriate me framing things from the autism's perspective. Which I found really strange. Oh, I've just realised I've gone past the hour mark that I usually set for these. I need to really rethink the amount of time that I spend doing these. Like, maybe I need to do it for a bit longer. We'll go for another 20 minutes or so, I think. It might be cool. Just nice to find people also seeing them as weird too, totally. They're strange creatures. Alissa says, I get stuck at how are you? Do you really want to know? Or do you want me to apply fine? Yeah, totally. That's the... You know what? I used to just go along with it. But with my age, I'm becoming... If someone asks me how I am, I'm going to tell them. Whether they want to hear it or not. Because I don't like random meaningless questions just for the sake of asking them. Are you used to stream on Twitch and YouTube? That's cool. That's very cool. Yeah, I mean... Hmm, some casual games with nice cheerful images. Yeah, I mean I'd be open to it. App 10, that would be really helpful. I don't know, what's the best way of getting in contact with me about it? I suppose email? Are you okay with email? I'm a lot more responsive on email. But I can do Instagram as well. And that their way isn't just the way, totally. Germans won't ask because they don't really want to know. And in Japan, eye contact is rude. Yeah, it's really strange. I used to have a fascination with Japanese culture because I found the social rules over there to be a lot more congruent with how I like to be socially. But I'm also very aware that I'm a tall person. And I'd probably look a bit strange walking around Tokyo just like with a sea of small Japanese people. Stick out like a small form. Might do the opposite for me. Yeah, my son struggles to physically get his words out and stutters or just shuts down a lot. He hates direct questions. He said he creates the answer options in his head and then he picks one. They're really interesting just like how well we can explain our thought patterns and stuff because if you ask like neurotypicals that, they just a lot of the time they're not really aware of how things work in their head. Statistics show that median length quality streams is around two hours. It's sort of the golden length. Interesting. Okay. Okay. What do you guys think on Instagram? Would you want me to sit on the Instagram and chat for an hour? Two hours? Or over? I mean I'd be up for it if that's something that people want me to do. I think it's, I don't know if it's a bit different on Instagram app 10 or is it just like a consistent thing across all live streams? Because I definitely find with Instagram it tends to be a lot more up and down than it is on YouTube. I'm also aware that like growing live stream platforms it's really difficult as well which I don't know. What would be like the best schedule for doing live streaming? Because I do actually really want to do it. Like I've watched like different streamers. Like I watched like Asman Gold and Hassan doing their streams and stuff. And I actually really like in my ideal world that would be such a great thing for me to do. But I just think it's, our of your life is dedication. Two hours well. Yeah, maybe. One of the reasons I'm sure Andy's feel more comfortable with Japanese culture. I now realize I studied Japanese at uni. So I lived there a year and realizing that that was most likely my special interest just in. Yeah, I've been to Japan as well. I think it was really it was a really lovely experience for me actually because we did an exchange program between my school in England, obviously, and a Japanese school in Fukushima. So a lot of the time that was kind of my peak of bullying and things like that and a lot of isolation and sort of social exclusion and stuff like that. So when it actually came to the exchange program when exchange students came over. I was actually seeing to be like a popular person among them because I did like my taekwondo and I did well at school and they were like, wow, that's great. And so it was one of the first times I actually felt like, you know, kind of at one with with a group, which was was was really sort of impactful on me, I guess. You know, going through life kind of feeling somewhat disconnected from the people around you and feeling a bit alienated, being able to be a part of a group and, you know, fit in with the social rules that they have a lot easier. I think that was really helpful. I really opened my eyes to like how life is you know that it doesn't necessarily have necessarily have to be confined to this this social bubble that I'm finding myself in in the UK. It's interesting. I have thought of living abroad but, you know, it's, I think it's definitely something that I'll think about. I mean, I'm, you know, I'm working part time for an organization in the UK. So it might be a bit difficult to do that around about this time, but maybe in the future. Statistics show I'm meeting life quality is two to three hours. Why not set up three hours but finish up finish when you feel like it's wrapping up. Yeah, maybe, maybe I think I definitely if I'm going to do live streams and stuff it would definitely have to be like for that amount of time. I definitely have to do something else have to have something else to do while I'm doing it. I'd really like to do that kind of thing in terms of, you know, if I was going to be like a do do like commentary on videos and stuff because that that would be something that I'd be really interested in. It might, it might help us get a bit more sort of mainstream attention as well. If we, if we talk about like sort of common in topics. It definitely be something that I'd have to set up separate to my, my podcast and my Instagram stuff. But I feel like that could, that could be good. I'd say it's kind of missed you on your commercial email. Yeah. I'll put it in the chat. If you, if you haven't seen it yet. I think I could offer some like neurodivergent angle or autistic angle on on social events that are happening in the world. I could do that. I'd be interested in doing that. I'd like to. It's just whether I can like make it something that I can just do for a job. I think that's, that's the big thing. But I could give it a go definitely if that's what people want me to do. I also just don't know. Like I don't know if it's very hard to gauge exactly how good you are for doing those kind of things. Like I've seen lots of people who do well on live streaming that are not particularly entertaining or good or funny. And they seem to get a lot more than people that I, other people that I've seen who are really funny and really entertaining and chatty. So I don't really know. It's, it's, it's really hard to gauge that kind of thing. It's really tough growing on Twitch as well. So it's maybe, maybe it could be something to think about. I can't just say go live every day. Oh, I couldn't do that. Well, maybe, maybe for like half an hour, but I don't know. It's a, I liked, I prefer very much like longer life, like longer live streams, but not like all the time rather than just mini live streams constantly. But I can imagine that it's good for like the algorithm and stuff like that. But I don't know. Maybe, maybe see that's the thing. There's so many options and things to do. And Mari says, I'm learning everything about my son daily, like a new page each day. That's awesome. That's what you need to be doing. You feel seen. That's great. Oh, you've got, you've got on your best Japanese students too. That's interesting. Oh, I've got behind on the text as well. The text comments again. The chat. Hello chat. Kate says, and now it helps me to connect to lots of the ND teams in interact interested in Japanese culture and enjoy and masking more and more around these interests. Yeah. I think definitely finding interest groups is the best way to go about socializing. You know. And it's, I have, I have made some friends like around like Jim, the gym that I go to. Well, again, it's a bit of a difficult one because when I go and I do sport or I do exercise or fitness, I almost always want to like focus in on what I'm doing and get into like a zone and just, just like, I tend to be very face blind. So I can like, if I'm really concentrated on my workout, I can just walk past people. It's not even noticed that that even if the right in front of me is crazy. And Amara says, your Instagram pages, do you create these yourself? They're amazing. They'd make it. They would be amazing as a book. That's another thing that I could do. Okay, so from now on we're going to do Twitch streams are going to do ASMR we're going to do. I'm going to make a book on top of everything. I wish. I wish. I think I will definitely I might go, you know, once, once I get myself established as a business and once I do a bit more work and have a bit more experience under my belt. I think then I'll go for a book. But I, you know, I want to be able to provide a lot of things in a book. I could write it. But, you know, it's, there's a lot of possibilities. Let's just say I am thinking about that as well. Definitely. Do you have any pets? I have had dogs for a lot of my life, but we don't have a dog at the moment. I love dogs. I used to have a guinea pig used to have like a mouse and guinea pig a rabbit. I don't play that. I love dogs. It's just, I don't feel like I can, I find it hard enough to manage my executive function on my own rather than looking after like animals as well. Only in covering this side of me more as my son's being assessed. Yeah, yeah. So it goes for a lot of people. Raleigh Skatey says that people hit on me at the gym. I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing. I think it probably a mix, I imagine. Memoir? Yeah, maybe. I think maybe when I'm a bit older. Possibly. Definitely helpful way to socialize more easily using those interests as a tool. I think I always did, but just by talking about them to others as they found them interesting generally. Yeah, I think talking about things in the context of the topic is really important. It can be can be a lot easier than just speaking generally to people and like doing introductions and stuff like that. Find it a bit tedious, like introducing yourself and give you a name and talking about what do you do as a job? What do you do with this? It's like, no, let's just get started on the topic and go for it. That's what I want. Amazon print book. Oh, no worries, Alyssa. I see you on Monday. Thanks for joining. My son stings guinea pig noises. I bet that's lovely for you, for your ears. Razorcoat says, hell yes, I have a dog but got them when there were two of us and it's a lot as a single parent with ADHD. I love her, but lots of dog mumgill. Yeah, it's a lot. It's definitely a commitment. And I think that's that's one of the reasons why I haven't got myself a dog at this time just because of that. Like if I'm going to get a dog, if I'm going to have a kid, I want to be able to like put as much time as they can into them, which I don't think it's something that I can do at the moment. So it's, it pains me and I would love to have a little doggie or doggie running about. Thank you at the time. I will check my emails after this. Appreciate it very much. So it's a big responsibility. Yeah, I think that's that's it. You know, it's adding stuff to your to your general day. I think that's that's the tough thing for me. As Chanus says, I always ask them to come back to me and then write down myself introductions first. Yeah, just like someone comes up to say, hi, how are you doing? And, you know, you've got like a card and you go, pow, read this card. Just check it out and come back to me when you want to talk about something interesting. People often shame us for finding that hard, but it is a lot. Yeah. True. Very true. Well, we've probably got about four minutes on the clock. So in the end of four minutes, I'm going to try and wrap up. So if you've got any burning questions that are ready to go that you want to ask, then go for it in a group setting. Yeah, totally as well. Give it like give them like a presentation on who you are. I hear it when it does that. It's me for not me for not charging. I don't know why I'm not charging my phone. I could be. It's got it plugged into my keyboard. You're welcome. Thank you for joining again. Always lovely to have lots of questions, lots of comments. It's nice to have a time at the end of my week to sort of get get together, chat to people. It's really lovely. Actually, I really enjoy it. I definitely would like live streaming a lot. George Carly asks what were your favorite TV shows and films as a kid? I love Studio Ghibli films. I also have very heavily prefer animation. That's that that that's always been something that I really enjoy. Anime, cartoons, whatever it is animation. I just love them. I think it's because they, you know, there's obviously an aspect of self ambiguity when it comes to like films that are not animated. You know, there's always this sort of, you know, animators, they have to draw. They have to code how people look when they say stuff. And, you know, they can have multiple takes and say it in different ways and they have to really exclaim how they're feeling. Or even there's like narrating commentary on it and stuff. So, you know, I think that those things are why I gravitate towards cartoons. Everything's just a lot more explicit and like more chill and easy to easy to digest. As China says, love your podcast. Is it difficult to start a podcast? I want to do one about autistic masking for a research project. It depends. It's not too hard to make a podcast, but to perfect it and to promote it. That's that's the tough part. So if you're wanting it to become like an established podcast, I think that's that's the tough thing. Okay, we've got one more question. We'll go with this one. How did you get into lifting and gym culture? I find motivation issues cause this to always fall off quickly. Good question. I think a lot of people confuse motivation with discipline. The thing is, is that I'm not always motivated to go to the gym and I don't always have to be motivated to go to the gym. But once things like that are a part of your routine and there's something that provides a certain sense of certainty to your week. And especially if they produce a lot of good hormones in you and make you feel good and all that. That can be really helpful for mental health and it is definitely helpful to me. I'm not on a regular to kind of get out that energy, those frustrations from the day, those emotions and chill. So it's that that definitely helps and motivations are very fleeting thing. It's not always there. You know, sometimes you motivate sometimes you want you don't have to be motivated to do stuff. You just have to do it. You'd be disciplined and just say to yourself, hey, I'm going to do this for this amount of time. At this point every week and I'm just going to try and find time to do it. It's not always going to work and sometimes there's going to be other factors that get involved. They make it hard like being sick or, you know, having a bad mental health and struggling with the executive functioning. And sometimes it is good to take a break, but, you know, making it a consistent part of your week or your day. Really, really important. You don't you don't have to go with this whole culture of, you know, you've got to be fired up and ready to go to the gym. You've got to be fired up and ready to go out in the world and produce and, you know, it's it's nice. And it can sometimes give you a bit of energy in the moment, but motivation isn't the be all and end all of everything. And it does tend to be very fleeting and it's not something that you will have every day. You know, consistently, every long period of time. And that's that's where the routine and the discipline comes in. It's tough. It's tough. And there's a lot of times where I don't feel like I want to go. I want to do something else. I want to, you know, play a game or I want to just chill in my bed. But I always feel better for doing it. You know, it becomes it's at this point. I kind of feel, I feel worse if I don't go to the gym than if I did go to the gym. So it's like, there's a weird mismatch that you get. Like when you start off exercising, it's always going to be hard. Your body's not used to it and it's a new thing in your routine. So it's going to be undoubtedly a very difficult thing to work into that routine. But once you go for a lot for a long period of time and it's part of your routine, you'll feel worse if you don't go. So it's, it's, it's not like you have to be motivated to go. It's just, you know, you'll feel bad if you don't. And you'll be like, well, I might as well go to the gym if I'm going to feel rubbish about it. So it's obviously it's not always like that. But I'd say that that's probably a big component of getting into it. Really appreciate the comment, Daniel. It's never going to be a big, big lifting because you've been, you see my brain's going about all over the place. Daniel Gardner says, yeah, it's never going to be big lifting, but I've been diagnosed with fibro. So I know building certain areas could keep me off painkillers for three more years. Totally. I mean, if, if everyone could take a pill that does what exercise does for your health and your wellness, then everybody would be on it. And it would be the most revolutionary pill in the entire human history. But, you know, that's, that's, that's not the case. You can't just take the exercise pill, which is the tough thing. You also don't need to go over the top and do what I do and go six, six days a week for two hours each. You know, you don't need to do that to make any progress. It's just, I'm a bit insane. A bit weird. Yeah. When you've worked out for more than a decade, sometimes it feels like torture or better than French kisses. It depends on the day. Totally. Well, not fun though. Well, you know, you've got to find something that you do find fun. It doesn't necessarily have to be going to the gym and lifting weights. It could be a lot of different things. There's a lot of different options. You know, some people that might be like yoga or body workouts or running or dancing or martial arts or, you know, there's so many options that you can pick from, you know, it's good. It is good to push yourself down the right now and again. And after a while, you get over that initial stage of this being horrible and this being like a pain to get through. And it more or less becomes like a pain. It's like you go and do your workout and you will genuinely feel better and more energized after doing it. So it's, you know, it's not even the case that you have to force yourself and it's always going to be the same as when you start out. It does become a lot easier and actually becomes enjoyable, not enjoyable, but it's something that you look forward to doing in a certain sense. Anyway, I hope that helps. I'm going to probably sign off now, but yeah, a pill will be less fun working out totally. Yeah, yeah, sorry, I missed understood. But yeah, guys, thank you for joining the stream and also thank you to everyone who purchased a Instagram badge. All this too. Very much appreciate that helps helps me out a lot in terms of keeping my channel, my work afloat while I'm trying to sort out my business elements. So very much appreciated for that, guys. And if you have liked it, check out some of stuff. Yeah, open a BTC wallet. Maybe. Anyway, I hope you guys doing well. Have a great evening. Thank you, Katie. See you later, guys. And yeah, see you next week at 5.30 p.m. BST, as usual, probably go for about an hour and a half again. But yeah, thank you. I'll get back to you on email. I'm going to end the YouTube stream now. Thank you, guys. And I'll see you later. Okay.