 آپ دیکھ رہے ہیں چار سو بیز گرام کا ایک نیا نوائلہ اپسوڈ اور stayin true to our consistancy دیکھی جی ہم کافی طائم بار آتے ہیں یہاں پر سنیل چھیتری صاحب کا پندرہ سال کا سال گرام بنائی گئی ہے اور ای آی فرم نے اتنے میل بھیج گئے ہیں بھائی اس پیم کر دیا تم نے ای آی فرم اتنے میل بھیج بھیج گئے کی تلو ٹھیک ہے آپ نے بھیج گئے وہاں پر سکی سور والی کہانی بڑی اچھی تھی پر ہم بھی سنیل چھیتری کے پندرہ سال کے بارے میں ایک شو کریں گے لیکن شاہت وہ سنیل چھیتری کے اگلا پندرہ سال کے بعد آئے گا کیا کیا ہمائی consistancy ویسی ہے تو شاہت تیس سال جب سجناب کے ختم ہوں گے تب شاہت ہمارا پندرہ سال کا سنیل چھیتری میں شو آئے گا بہت today the reason جیدی باسو صدانتانی and I have gotten together is because آج بات ہو رہی ہے about a club or two clubs that war regarded as one of the biggest two clubs in Indian football and war is a key point جو میرے دل رہا ہوں یہ میرا مطلب ہے یہ میری سوچ ہے we are talking about Mohan Bagan and East Bengal and it is the tale of two contracts and how these two contracts could derail these two big giants of Indian football if that is what you think they are جیدی صر let's start with you کہ تھوڑا سا ایک تیزر دے دی جیے کہ آج شو پر ایک دو کونٹریکٹ کی بات ہو رہی ہے and how they are affecting these two giants of coal کتابہ بہت سورو سے تو یہ ہے کہ there is a lot of people are very happy in Mohan Bagan ابھی تو ہیں کیونکہ ان کا ایٹی کے ساتھ کونٹریکٹ ہو چکے ہیں ایٹی ٹیپ ٹیپ ٹیپ ٹیپ ہو چکے ہیں VICTORIA HOUSE میں everybody is happy Mohan Bagan Club میں some happy VICTORIA HOUSE is the CSE headquarters from which the Sanjib Goenka seats and there is gloom in East Bengal کیونکہ کونٹریکٹ کتم ہو رہا ہے کونٹریکٹ کتم ہو رہا ہے which everybody knows which Coase has already announced لیکن ہم اگس کو اگر بیگر پرسپیکٹ میں دیکھے کہ دو سال پہلے when East Bengal entered into an agreement with Coase again it looked very hunketory at that time جو Mohan Bagan کا آج کا سین ہے دو سال پہلے East Bengal کا وہی سین تھا that things are very fine ہمارا پہلا کوسٹن ہے اور جن آپ کو میں ہم یہی دسکس کرسکتے ہیں کیا how feasible are these 2 years 3 years contracts where is the guarantee looking at East Bengal East Bengal is at the moment in dire stress so looking at what has happened to East Bengal isn't it that same thing can happen to Mohan Bagan 2 years or 3 years later it's not that we wish such things happen but جس طریقے سے East Bengal کا بھی problem میں ہے اور دیکھیں آپ کو بھی معلوم ہیں سب کو معلوم ہیں کہ یہ ایفن کو لیٹر بھی لکھا ہے کہ آپ کا سین کیا ہے بتا یہ آپ کیسے کہاں پے کڑے ہیں آپ کا contract کہاں ٹوٹ گیا ہے اگر تو آپ کو اس بار آئے what exactly is the scene sir سین ہے کیا مطلب کی quest نے یہاں پر گائے جی okay thank you so much ہمیں نہیں associate ڈینا آپ کے ساتھ اور whatever reason that might be but then how does that further complicate things because I would think then کہ quest نکل گیا تو it's back to the old East Bengal and then they can do what they want the thing is that I wish it would have been so easy but it's not happening in such a way because when East Bengal and quest entered into an agreement and formed a company which name is quest East Bengal FC Private Limited just my 70% shares quest کے پاس 30% shares are with quest East Bengal now quest whatever the reason be quest has also reasons to feel unhappy several reasons to feel unhappy with the way things are going they want to part company but it is believed that it is at least the sources what are saying that quest has asked that we are ready to give you the 70% share we are holding but you have to pay for it there is unconfirmed sources said that this money could be 8 to 10 crores quest could be demanding because there is no doubt quest has spent at least 20-25 crores in the last 2 years 25 crores they spent in the last 2 years sir last 2 years for East Bengal میں یہ سن کے تو میں یہ کیسی تاہم quest والے لوگ ڈیل ڈیل ڈیل ڈیل ڈیل ڈیل ڈیل ڈیل in whatever sense it might be that you are spending 20-25 crores to win a i-league season تو سر آپ کو کسی نے آپ کی کان میں گلچی بھری ہے 25-25 crores کون خرصتا ہے سر i-league میں یہاں پر تو مدلہ 5 crores تو سیزن تو سیزن میں وہ کہہ رہا ہوں تو سیزن مشکل سے 5 crores over 2 seasons your teams یہاں پر خرصتی ہیں so then I think East Bengal گوھن مگان is always spending that kind of money whether they are winning or not that's a different issue altogether but they always spend مون مگان also spend this isn't around 10-12 crores to spend they have one of course it's a what spending also for them it was what spending for them but the thing is that now Qoiz is wanting their what do we call it a pound of flesh something like that and they have every right to do so they have the right to do so then East Bengal have to pay their money they have no investor also who can buy them out if you go by reports then investors are flocking East Bengal and how and the ISL is saying come we are waiting for you sir when will you cut the ribbon a famous Novelta invisible man this is like invisible small investors only only they can see I would rather say only Nitu Saqqa can see it nobody else in this world can see it تو تو اگر problem یہ ہے it's not about whether East Bengal can pay 10 crores or 8 crores the problem یہ ہے کہ اگر federation is very clear about it and so is IFA their parent body اگر آپ کا NOC نہیں آتا ہے Qoiz East Bengal are parting company so to get back into the previous previous arrangement of East Bengal FC you have to give us an NOC you have to go for the licensing criteria اس کا لٹر تو ہم کو دیدو because of generating an invoice اگر اس کو دیدو AFF has not AFF has written related to them but East Bengal hasn't replied to that later تو اس کے مطلب 100 years clubs existence in the I League not only in the I League even in the CFL after 100 years it is now in GeoPuddy they cannot produce the later if they cannot produce the documents which said they have parted ways and they are back to their back to as East Bengal FC they won't be able to paint I see it in a way کہ آپ کا of course sir is going to be writing an article for newslet.in on this entire episode as far as East Bengal oil and quests and how they are parting ways and it's not as simple as it looks but the point is quest entered into a 3 year agreement they are parting ways after 2 years which means quest is breaking contract right so if quest is breaking contract is there no clause that a one party breaks contract then this and this takes place because that's generally the way forward if you break contract then you can't really demand 70% shares امارہ دیدو or you can't hold a hostage like that see the termination contract is I believe termination clause in this contract is completely silent of this subject there is something very very another very interesting thing in the agreement that in the and it only shows that how lopsided was the agreement was the agreement and how rather I would say rather two on the part of East Bengal East Bengal officials to sign such an agreement the agreement at one point said the termination could be done if within 3 years East Bengal doesn't play the ISL or the top league for that matter but now we know we can't say whatever anymore because we know that the top league is the ISL that means if East Bengal doesn't play the ISL then the investors can walk out of the walk out of the contract without any sort of they have the right to walk out of the contract because they want East Bengal to play the top league so this is quest so my question here is that if quest want East Bengal to play in the ISL then shouldn't quest be willing to spend the kind of money it takes to play in the ISL are they expecting to play in the ISL with a similar budget to the ILEG no there is more to it last year we know very well everybody knows you know everybody knows that in last year the AFF officials along with FSDL officials and two officials who went to see minister the the quest boss I can name them also one was another was Sundar Baman who came from FSDL they tried to convince East Bengal quest that East Bengal should join the ISL at that point of time quest said they are for whatever reason they don't see any point in spending so much of money 15 crore to enter and then after that 10 crore or 12 crore or 20 crore to make a team all are fine but that means it is not East Bengal quest refuse to play ISL but termination contract doesn't say but East Bengal can walk out of it Sir you please hit me the guy who is talking for so long he is a bubble sir quest has understood you 40 crore to spend in Indian football what is the joke what is the joke 40 crore to spend 40 crore is not a small amount it is a big amount if quest doesn't want to spend it that's fine that's their problem we can't say anything but at the same time the clause should say that East Bengal can walk out of the contract but the agreement as I have been told the agreement doesn't say anywhere that East Bengal can come out of the contract let me tell you one thing because it is written in your article we of course had the chance of reading it you will come out soon on newsclick.in in that year officials of East Bengal broke a very important clause in the contract which is to always badmouth maybe badmouth is not the right but always great officials of the people who are the majority holders of that contract that is quest we have left now we will teach them this means we have left they studied the contract they had their legal team who told them you are fine over here because the contract is in your favor yes definitely and East Bengal officials now of course on this slide you are complaining that this contract was very lopsided it was one sided you didn't study the time to sign because what is written in the contract اندے ہو کیا you have four people on the board of directors in the quest East Bengal and one is the president of the club one is the secretary of the club and two others are the executive members of the club so they did not read the contract are you aware of how many of these gentlemen i am assuming they are all gentlemen and they are do you know how many of them are lawyers by profession or training i think the president of East Bengal club is a is a number one he can't be a lawyer as well one two Mr. the secretary of the club he had retired from Indian Airlines and i am i don't think he was working with the legal department and the other two one is i believe he has a business of his own he is a share market and broker and all these things and the fourth member i am not very sure about so i am not very sure whether anybody has a legal department i find it really bizarre no its a big question because as a club you worked in contracts for the last 20-30 years you worked with contracts for the last 20-30 years do you know how lopsided may be in your favor and not in favor of the player who is signing a contract and then to suddenly give it away and then to say that listen now its not working in our favor that is just bizarre so let me ask you guys both this question just to take this point the sort of bizarreness of this situation little bit further was time when when you came to a club and you were operating in many clubs in India so i am asking that when someone comes to a club this type of sponsor theoretically big budgets big deep pockets and all of that come to you and say i am ready to take all your expenses for 3 years so that short term cash infusion whether a club management or ownership whatever is the excitement that is generated by this short term cash infusion so much you are ready to put all your expenses in it is that how it works its mostly because it seems like you are getting the money now you are not paying the place but you are paying the payment and there is another point to this as far as the strong law thing is concerned several respected members of the club have told me that everything was done in a very hush hush manner at least one of the office bearers has told one of them i came to see the contract first came to my hand when i was asked to sign it i just signed it and gave it to them i didn't have any they didn't give me any time to read it also so it was it was done in a very hush hush manner so you know what which doesn't bother us at all which doesn't bother us at all because why should it be after all they are spending money but the other party should be careful enough that's it what i am trying to say from the very beginning that we should look at a bigger perspective all clubs should be should be careful before they do anything no so it's not about being careful careful to tell you okay it's such a bite and everything plays into whatever is happening right now ایک جگہ آپ کا توف لیگ اتنا انٹینبل ہوگیا ہے پندرہ کروڈ جناب پندرہ کروڈ پندرہ کروڈ کے بعد پندرہ بیس کروڈ اور تیم بنانے کے لئے وہاں پے کیکہ اس پر آپ کو گائنٹیاں دیتے ہیں آپ نے آپ کیا ہم جی تین سال چار سال پانت سال ہم یہ کریں گے so the thing is that earlier before this ISL system came along the i-league and Mcdowell ایس بغول مہن بگان were the top guys because they had done something they had funding from people and unlike other teams so they were the top guys now suddenly this corporatization if i may say or privatization of indian football has taken place where suddenly the gap is so much کہ آپ کہرہو ہم اس گیپ میں کبھی کھیل نہیں پا رہے ہیں اُس لب آنا بھی ایس بغول مہن بگان ہو جنے بھی سال آپ i-league میں کھیل بھی اتنے ہی سال آپ کا your level is diminishing پہلو ہم آپ کیا کرنا سکتے بہتی جانتے ہیں اے ایسی لئے انہوں کے لئے اہم some of the players are playing in the ISL شاہت کا فضائیہ اور اہم بہتی انہوں کے لئے اسے لگھنے کا آئے لہذا پہلے ہم خغانم جاتا ہوں اور اگر ایک شخص جاناہ ہم لوگوں کا معاوی طرح لائے انہوں نہیں سوپلinated جو آپی 40 گروڈر لگتے ہیں جو آپی 30 گروڈر لگتے ہیں نے جو آپ کی سال نہیں ک снова سوپی ا抓نےی going یہ بھی ایک سنگر دنماین چیزن رای اگر آپی کھلوان اہم پر شکرہ اسس میں بھی ایکارٹمی ڈایا ہے اس سے جانتے ہیں بھر جانتیں جو پہلی سامانے کھالی اییف پر کھلوانے کی طرف جاتے ہیں کہ ایکٹٹمی دیگیوں کو دایا ہے سائل پلایر کے سمجھیں اور بھی ایک سسٹم ایکٹمی کے سائل لے جانتے ہیں وہ ہی نہیں سہا ہے ناہین کیا چاہیتی ہے سنگر سیزن ہیلیک جیتے ہیں جیتے ہیں سنگل سیزن آئیسل میں جائیں بس وہی ہے تو اگر آپ بیسے چلو گئے تو مطلب یہی حال ہونے والا دیسپریشن میں لیڈیو to سائن دیس کنڈو کنڈو کونٹریکٹس لیکن یہ ہے کی بات بہت سے یہ آپ کی لیکن this اسپنگل پرولم have not been created for a change my isl isl had no goal to play in this in this problem اسپنگل problem وہ تو آئیلی کئی problem ہو گیا ہے آپ دو سال بھی پہلے سال آپ آپ کا کوئیس نے اتنا اچھا کام کیا that you almost won the title they were they were close runners some they were they had actually had the same points when they signed with quest i'm sure the i would have been that over a 3 years period we will make to the isl that was the whole deal with signing with quest right and also the fact that you have someone coming in to bear the financial nitty grittings of running a club but in the second year when things did not go well in the second season which has culminated into this that that breaking off contract then quest alone cannot be blamed for this is also have lot of problems and they did lot of things as you are you are just talking about just a few minutes ago about that indemnity clause which that is because officials have no right to bad mouth there they found out there there is investors from morning till evening which did it and they did it publicly day in day out did it the question every recruitment the question every foreigner the question the coach everything so and and and finally when when it came to the Calcutta League match when against PLS when East Bengal did not want to play they try to put blame on each other each other that East Bengal has not played because of club or for the quest so for i think East Bengal if quest can be blamed for lot of things East Bengal also did not handle the thing very well isn't it what do you feel i completely agree with you sir i think i think the point is that East Bengal and Mohan Bagan i think why are we not talking about Mohan Bagan also right now all of them are realizing that they're being left behind and if they want to join the glitz the glamour and whatever it is of the isl and which is now the top league of Indian football then that cash inclusion are these to come in that can only come in by sort of you know partnering with a corporate who's willing to pay in that much amount of cash and the point is that if you and and if you're signing a contract for the certain amount of desperation then of course the corporate will make sure the things go in their favor and which right now like you rightly pointed out is going in their favor i don't know so than what are you saying that there's a possibility that if quest is being all is not willing to buy out the 70% of quest so this is the possibility they might not i might not play the kind of football league at this scenario is that we wish i wish it doesn't happen like that i think every every fan in this country will wish that that a hundred year club will not play the i league out for the even for the even the local league just because they have some contract problems that would be that would be very very sad so that's what i say that shouldn't it be like that that everybody should take a cue from what has happened to his spend all and to some extent to Mohan Bagan also because of course we cannot learn because we do not know what is happening in the next years but everybody should take a cue from that that there should be a balance between the two things corporate corporation of club is very good that sounds very well everything is very fine but it shouldn't be shouldn't come to a pass where the very identity of the club can be in question just because is going does that man mean that he's been going to be able to play even if they are playing the third division third division let them play the third division let me ask you a question just in terms of how this can possibly pan out let's say that this share agreement between question he's been going cannot be resolved and whatever the valuation that he's been going that quest is coming up with for the 70% that it is currently holding کچھ نہیں ہوتا ہے this comes to pass nothing happens is it not possible for East Bengal then to set up a separate company a new club qualities EVFC or whatever retain the same colors the same jersey the same logo just remove quest from it start a new entity send that letter to the all India football federation saying key you know are the previous club in that form no longer exist because there is no money so this is a new club see I like it happens in I suppose many clubs that go bankrupt in Europe or elsewhere in the world the club itself doesn't seem to die just the owners either change or there's a new way in which the club is brought back to life see what you are saying I'm not sure about the legal legal aspect of this but in that case why should he swing out play the I-league they should play the second division I-league first because that's a new club than if you come in exactly that's the root to take no not you in second division I-league sir CFL and second division will give you a chance if you are going to play the club then why will you be here exactly no but why will you be here because as we have seen that a corporate entry or direct entry to the I-league is also a possibility there are clubs that have been then it's been nearly done then it's been nearly done then it's been nearly done then it's been nearly done I think he is going to have this very strong notion that ان کے لئے کافی ایک سبشنز بنائیں جائیں گے اور بیکوز یہ ہستورکی پروبن ہے کہ جو لائسنسنگریٹیڈیا پر اجام پر تھریٹس ہے پر میٹ کہ اگر آپ پلفل نہیں کرتے ہیں xyz کرتیڈیا تو اگلے سال آپ نہیں کھل پائیں گے توپلی because a fc سے آتا ہے یہ کرتیڈیا but those requirements have been way here in here out because of the simple reason that this rivalry this in like a vast majority or maybe a large number of indian football fans are fans of either East Bengal and Mohan Bagan and the and like to say that this this the competition between these two clubs is what sustains a lot of the conversations around indian football as well so everyone realizes this historical importance and and whatever the fact that these guys still have some standing in terms of actual an actual fan base Joe 4 لاکھ سارے 4 لاکھ جو بھی شیر حولد ہیں جو بھی بھی ایس فنگول شیر حولد ہیں یا کلاب ممبرز ہوئے تو تو یہ سب ان کے فیور میں ہے نا کچھ چیزیں اور اسی کے بالبوٹے پے ٹکیو ہیں ہم ہی ہے I think I think that the governing body so far has not been very sympathetic To communicate which they should be. Se he historia doesn't play ai league or for that matter CFL it's a not a loss for the us for Egypt, It's not a loss for the of Saturnos of quiz it's a loss for Indian Let flavor is not only a loss for them but this treatment that has been taken place that I am asking 50 سال سے اوپریٹ کر رہا ہے انڈین پٹ بول کی مطلب the point is why are you letting it reach to such a situation as my point why are you letting it and and and the new clubs the new clubs that would be then looking to you know come into the whole scene which of course will not be too much because will not be too many because وہ گیرہوں گے یا مطلب i-league میں تو آجائیں گے جاں پہ دو کروڈ کا بجت ہے than from i-league میں تو آجائیں گے جاں یہ بجت آپ کا مطلب 20 کروڈ کا ہو جائے گا ستنڈی تو کون سوچے گا مہاں پہ جانے گی but my point is why should be if i give them an exception why i mean if if if if legacy was everything then such a than دو کروڈ still be playing if legacy was everything and sort of ganguli will still be captain you know that's my point before anybody see the indian footballs biggest problem is at the moment is too much stress on corporatization لوگ جو ایس جو فٹوال چلاتے ہیں ایمڈیا میں جادہ تب کچھ لوگ ایسے آگئے ہیں first there are two two two sector sections of people one has learned from a football from their watching epl on the on the television and the other sections who have always kept the book throughout their life and now suddenly come to run run run football football is not like entirely about money there are so many other things involved in football تو لگتا ہے کہ سب کا یہ ہے کہ یا کروپ ریزیشن ہونا چاہئے یا کمپنی کو اس کلاپ کو لے لے نا چاہئے وہ کمپنی آجائے گا تو 20 کروڈ مل جائے گا 50 کروڈ مل جائے گا لیکن کہ یہ ڈالنس تو ہونا چاہئے کیوں because because they heard their pound of flesh already yeah and i know i know see you coiss is not a not a business to he's a business to business company it's not a business to consumer company so they really don't need that kind of publicity but me i asked very politely i will ask coiss people that who knew coiss to two years ago yeah man who knew coiss can have a service مجھے مادونٹا ہم herem جی but i never had a close every morning in the last 20 minutes 20 minutes 3 of us had spoken the word quies the number of time i think 20 million people have not spoken in the last 5 years i get that that see the thing is the good lure of whatever you might say of the quiz coming into East Bengals than a long term game and so the contract also suggest میں بیٹھیں گے کہ ہم کب تک یہاں پر مطلب ایک سیکنڈ دویشن میں کھلتے رہنگے تو ہم تو جانا چاہتے ہیں اوپر جانا چاہتے ہیں تو وہاں پر آپ کے جو فیڈریشن والے ہیں وہ آئیسل والے ہیں وہ کہہ رہے سار آپ کو آنا ہے تو باقی سائرے ٹیمہوں نے پندرہ کروٹ دیا ہے اس کے بعد انہوں نے گارنٹییاں دیئے ہیں کہ وہ ٹین ٹین چار چار سال تا گیتنا پیسہ دا لیں گے اب وہ آپ کیسے کرو گے یہ ٹیک ہے لیکن اس میں بات یہ ہے کہ یہ تو ہاں تک پہنچا بھی نہیں بات یہ تو ہو سکتا ہے کہ آئیسل ٹین ٹین سال بعد کویس would have love to play اس پنگال آئیسل لیکن آئیلی میں ہی دو سال میں اس پنگال کویس کا relation یہ ہو گیا کہ وہ بھاگنے کے لئے تیار ہے تو آئیسل میں کیا کیا کیا کیا کیا کیا کیا ناو ناو ناو let us come to the other side of the story also We shouldn't blame corporates also too much لیکن corporates کے لوگ جو بولتے ہیں وہ ابھی تو لگتا ہے کچھ کچھ مطلب to some extent it is right some لوگ بولتے ہیں کہ ہی انڈین فٹبال کو کئی جگہ ہے جو completely punch کیا ہے is stinking at some point of time at places the tradition and so far history and legacy of hispengal of indian football is stinking at some places which we have seen in this hispengal case hispengal has not helped quest any way in the last one season so if quest is compelling they have all the rights to complete what happened last year is almost like sabotage isn't it anything quest did was criticized by hispengal officials and لوگ تو یہ بول رہے ہیں کہ کچھ hispengal ispengal officials ہے they are upset because ان کا چل نہیں رہا ہے لوگ اور بھی بہت کچھ بول رہے which i cannot say on the show officially اگر آپ کو isle مجانے کے لئے آپ کو سوچ بزلنی پڑے گی isle مجانے کے لئے ایسل میں جانے کے لئے آپ کو اگر کود بول چلانا ہے تو سوچ بزلنی پڑے گی forget about isle آپ کو آپ آئی بھی نہیں کھل پا رہے ہوئے اگر آپ کی ایک لگیسی رہی ہے نا پچھا سال کی آپ کی لگیسی رہی ہے اگر آپ دس سال نہیں کھلوگنہ وہ لگیسی کھتا ہے سر دس سال میں کوئی اور آجائے گا اپنا نام بنائے گا اور اس وہ لگیسی بھول جائے گے لوگ it works like that fans will be with you for one year two year not after that not after that you have to give them back something it's a give and take policy آپ اور میں کافی time سے بولے جا رہے ہمارے جو شو کے فیدل کاستروں ہیں وہ بیٹھے میں سر آپ بتائے before we move on to Mohan Bagan what's your take on this whole corporatization because you see بھائی see corporatization let's admit to the fact that cash inflow is not something that comes easily in Indian football I've been hopping on that for so long so if cash inflow does not come easily and you have ambitions to play in a league where it requires you to put in a huge amount of money how are you going to bridge that gap that gap is only going to be bridged by a corporate who's willing to put that kind of money on you yeah but they'll say okay first let's do three years that's so it's I think it's the whole arrangement is fundamentally counterproductive man آپ اگر as a fraction of East Bengal's existence history بھی دیکھیں تو 3 سال کیا ہے 3% right that's you are willing to invest in 3% of a club's legacy but you want to have 70% of the stake in its decision making just because in the short run you're putting in a few crore rupees right this ازمشن or equation of corporate infusion of funds bailout or whatever you want to call it یا تو آپ 100% آپ نے کوئی خرید لیا and I'm not sure maybe جیدیپ can explain a little better what the arrangement was with Kingfisher and East Bengal prior to the coming in of Quest and how that kind of work because Kingfisher did spend a lot more time in that situation and that relationship ended because of generally mismanagement in that company as a whole ان کا ایلائن بھی کرش ہویا ان کا spirits etc also assets had to be sold off all of that stuff is going on we look at this corporatization as a very simple process کی کوئی آیا who is a corporate entity یا جس کی کوئی کمپنی ہے اور ایک چیک سائن کر دیا کی یہلو بھائی پیسے اور یہ میں نے لے لیا but for a corporation also any corporation whether it's a private corporation or a public corporation they have their own rules the way in which they function and in order to make it sustainable to make it long term to make sure that there are checks and balances so that these kind of things don't happen that due diligence is done on all ends so that they are not these big holes in a contract they are not these public fights I mean there has to be a process for resolution of not just disputes but also some kind of plan in place اب یہاں پر جیری پتا رہے ہیں ہمیں کی جب انہوں نے contract سائن کیا ہے لوگوں کو پرنے کا بھی موقع نہیں دیا گیا ہے تو جب آپ کا جو انٹری point ہے that's an entry point of dishonesty and inequality آپ بدای نہیں رہے ہیں آپ کا پلان کیا ہے آپ کے idea کیا ہے آپ اوپےکھ لی اوپریٹ کر رہے ہیں in a shady manor یا اوپےکھ manor بیسیلی پنہاں بارت کیا ہے how can you blame just the corporate for that it's a your question was on to me was on my opinion on the general thing of corporate a corporatization of of ڈین پر بہت بہت بہت بہت بہت بہت بہت بہت بہت بھائی کی اگر میں نے بیس کروڈ کرچیں for whatever reason and it might be a speck on the legacy of the club and now I want to get out of it because you have made life miserable for me for whatever it might be I might be right or wrong I perceive you have made life miserable for me I do not think I can have a equation or a relationship with you going forward تو میں آپ کی بینٹ بجاؤں گا میں کیوں بجاؤں گا میں کیوں بھائی تو یہ گسہ گاں سے آتا ہے یہ vendictiveness یا یہ this idea of teaching why is it necessary to have that in the equation آپ کا آپ نے decided بیسیڈی to bad mouth بیسیڈی to bad mouth the proven spending so fair enough so no one is saying that the management or the people who are currently making all these comments and have done through the last season I mean sabotage is not a word جیزی probably used lightly right it's a serious thing کہ آپ اندر اندر but جو مثال ہے ان سب چیزوں کی جو اندر سے ہم اپنے سسٹرمز انسٹیوشنز کو کھاتے ہیں وہ مثال سر بیس بینگوال موان بغان کی نہیں یہ سٹ کیوی یہ سب اوپر سے آ رہا ہے جب ہم ہم one sided contracts for cash infusion سائن کرتے ہیں تو یہ one sided contracts کافی بڑے بڑے لوگوں نے in fact overall اگر اندر اندر بلکو دیکھا جا کیسے private leak شروع کون کر رہا تھا due diligence جب وہ mra سائن ہوا which allowed a private leak these are all questions about corporate the oxymoron that is corporate governance or business ethics these are all oxymoronic words is it a good time to say بجے کی سیڈی وڈائے گا ball come on India so یہ سب it becomes a bit of a I guess hair pulling exercise because ہم ہم ہم بھما بھاگے alag alag clubs کے ساتھ یہ ہر سال کچھنا کچھ سا ہوتا رہتا ہے اور بھما پھر آگے بعد اسی بھی آجاتی ہے کہ overall نہ کسی نے کچھ decided کرنا ہے کہ کیا ہے scene the same kind of lack of transparency has existed has existed now for 5-6 years over what will be the top leak when quest entered into this agreement with East Bengal the I leak was the people in the I leak and including people in the All India Football Federation at the highest level of decision making were still saying no no no I leak is the leak I leak is the leak yeah but they knew that they knew that but but without that that that that that that that that that that that that with people with all the insides and workings of the India Football knew the That that coming to us was going to be made, the top leak and I don't think they had any doubt over that even if quest entered into an agreement with East Bengal the I leak publically is being called the top leak publically right that's why we're trying to in closed doors and every اس سے طرح امن کے بارانے میں ۔ کیوں جو امام جندہ مرنک بدات اس لینگوں میں کمانے کے بارانے میں مثل ہوں ، کیوں کہ بھی اچھا جاتا ہے؟ لوگوں میں چونا ہے کہ اپنے آپ کو وہاں بارے کے پرکار کے بارے کے بارے کے لئے آپ اپنا جنانا کے بارے کے بارے کے بارے کے بارے لیں۔ اور آپ کو ایک فہم کی بادیت اور چندگار اپنے مقاموں کے بارے کے بارے کے بارے میں اور پوکٹوں کو دیتے ہیں کہ یہ نہیں ہے پھر آپ یہ نہیں کہے سکتے ہیں کہ ایسا ہے کیا اب تو مجھے نہیں آنا ہے یا اگر میرے لڑا ہی گوگی ہے اس بنگول کے ساتھ تو میں نکل جاتا ہوں اس بنگول سے آئے اینے نہیں کیسے تو آپ پر کنانتا ہے چاہتو بھی سرام کا آپ کے اور جیدیب کے ساتھ میں نے کہا کہ جانا آپ چلو ٹھیک ہے ہم کر رہے ہیں کیونکہ 3 سال بعد ہم اسپین جا رہے ہیں ہمارا شو کرنے کے لے پر 3 سال کے پہلے 2 سال بعد میں نے کہا کہ یہاں پر دماغ کھا رہے ہیں اور بھر بر کے دماغ کھا رہے ہیں میں نہیں انٹر کر سکتا ہے ان لوگ کے ساتھ تو کیا گلت ہے کہ میں دوسرے سال پر نکلوں نہیں تو آپ نکل لے نا پھر آپ آپ دوسرا کرب کریت لے کچھ کہیں اور چلے جائے جاہاں پر آپ کی دوستی بنی رہے گی یا یا which is a better match for your value system or whatever the case might be because see the thing is also when you talk about why a corporation can spend the kind of money which you are rightly saying that if that is 100 rupees or 100 crore rupees to recoup that or to come back on that almost impossible because it is impossible so why do we look for corporate entities to come in and put money because corporations can show losses in their books yes right so somebody is I mean in the end theoretically the taxpayers suffers for this or everyone who is a taxpayers suffers what it means is that the income tax that that corporation then pays this amount of money that is being lost or pumped in is removed from the overall income that that company earns and therefore the tax that they pay so they are also getting monetary benefits for spending the money that they are spending while they are spending it it doesn't have to come back in terms of another check directly even though the tax rebate is actually getting a check right so this logic we talked a lot about the tax rebate the tax rebate is very low it is about 10% we are not accountants or tax lawyers so let's not get into the nitty gritty of it but overall if you look at let's say a company is worth 100 it's only spending 1 so in this field whether it's permissible to show 1% to 2% whether you look at it as part of a CSR spend whether you look at it as losses that you are showing on your books I'm sure there are ways and corporations don't become giant corporations without having people who are very good at creative accounting right these are things that at their end just as their legal team has put together a contract that is entirely in their favor they also have an accounting team that is ensuring that whatever is going in they are getting the maximum out of it so to say کی دس میں نے دو سال کے لیے آپ کی خرچے اٹھا لیے ہیں اب آپ مجھے ریٹرن میں وہ خرچے واپل دیں یہ ناجائز بات ہے میرے سابسیوں ناجائز کیوں ناجائز I don't know about it یہ بہت ہو گیا ہے جو بہت ہو گیا ہے اور سب پہتا ہے کہ آئی سر آئی آئی آئی I think we are a bit debating from the subject یہ مطلب یہ ہمارا ہمارے ایک بڑا اجیب سا ایک آجگل نوشن آ چکے انڈین فڈوال میں کیا اور خورپرٹس آ جائیں گے تو فڈوال بہت اچھا گو جائے گا ایسا ہوتا ہے کیا ہمارے اس ونگل کو کیا تکتا ہے آپ نے خورپرٹس آپ کو آئے ہیں وہ بڑا کلیوڈ والا کلیوڈ لیے ایک manipulative agreement بھی بنایا ہے جو کی one sided ہے they have everything the other party has nothing لیکن فڈوال چلانے میں تو کلیوڈنس ان کو ہم نے دیکھا نہیں جب ان نے one sided بنایا ہے تو ایس بنگل والوں کے ہاتھ تو بندے نہیں ہوئے تھے میں تو یہ کہا رہا ہے میں کہا رہا ہوں but they are not proving to be that clever when running football پھر آپ کلیوڈ کو payment نہیں دے رہے ہو آپ کو foreign players کھلے آم گالی دیکھ جا رہے ہیں that synergy will never exist that synergy will not exist because the corporate comes from a thought process and a way of doing things it is completely different from what these officials have been doing that means right people are running the show even in corporates آپ کرالا بلاسٹرس کو اٹھاکے دیکھنے جیئے کتنا بار coach change ہوا ہے RTR 10 بار تو coachy change ہو چکا ہے میرے خلص مجھے معلوم دے کتنے سال people have lost count اگر یہی چیز اگر ایس پنگل مونمگان کرتے تو لوگ کیا بولتے they don't know anything about football what kind of management it is but to be fair they also change their coaches quite regularly when the higher and higher we have always blamed them for that لیکن انکھا بھی یہی ہے ISL کا جو اٹھ کلاپ سروے تھے انکھا کتنے مانجمنٹ ابھی تک بچے ہوئے ہے مجھے گناک دیجیئے کسی نے آپ تو پونہ میں نہیں چلا پا رہو تو آپ حضربات جا رو آپ حضربات نہیں چلا پا رو تو دلی آرو دلی نہیں چلا پا رو تو آپ کہاں اڑیشہ پہنچ رہے ہو what is this is this professionalism آپ کے پاس پیسے ہیں cooperates ہیں ٹیک ہے but what I mean to say from East Bengal let us not get into the ISL thing again ISL bashing somebody might say but what I mean to say the amount of professionalism the quest people have shown in framing framing the club in framing the constitution in framing the agreement or whatever it is they have not shown that kind of professionalism while running the game on the pitch but we don't know what the agreement are you aware of what the agreement was the agreement in the sense that when you take over a club the agreement says that running of the clubs is in your hands and the financial whatever infusion is in our hands so did the agreement say the quest will be the spotlight is on quest to run the clubs the everything of the clubs of course of course the sporting activities of two sport football and cricket will be in their hands it is the sporting activity which is now in question because until unless the investors leave the sporting activity East Bengal cannot play football or cricket in Calcutta Mai Dhan or across the country I am telling you the last thing we can move on to Mohan Bagan this is a simple thing that you are an ISL which is Mount Everest okay sir your ISL has reached Mount Everest in terms of budget your real Indian football has been in Dehradun so Dehradun to reach Mount Everest because the real players are the big players because of which my team is formed because of which my fans come to see to reach them to reach Mount Everest from Dehradun I will have to look for a corporate travel those people who take people on the stores those people who take people on the stores they will have to look for it and then you will never have that connection because you have used this Dehradun to Mount Everest analogy to reach there are two ways to reach one is to make your own plan okay that I will take so much time and I will leave and I will leave the other is I will take a helicopter or a plane right and take a shortcut where I can go immediately right and I think in the history in the history of East Bengal they must have seen many investors come and go many people would have put money into the club even before this system of corporate governance corporate ownership existed right جب لوگوں نے پیسہ لگایا ہوا کسی کا private پیسہ ہوا کوئی local business نے لگایا ہوا ایسیترہ ایسیترہ so یہ جو لڑائی جھگڑے ہیں because at the end of the day آپ کے بارٹ پر بندے ہونگے 10-12 رائی تو ان کے بیچ لڑائی جھگڑا تو چلتا رہے گا سب کو لگے گا کیا کیا کیا کیا جانتے ہیں کیا کیا جانتے ہیں کیا جانتے ہیں اور انہوں جانتے ہیں لیکن یہ جانتے ہیں even how this league or the new league مونٹ ابرس in the first place it's not it's a مونٹ ابرس that is actually a landfill it's a garbage dump that you put some snow on top of and made it look like مونٹ ابرس it's not actually مونٹ ابرس مونٹ ابرس اگر آپ TV پر دیکھیں بارہ پندرہ high definition کامرہ لگا کے دیکھیں مونٹ ابرس دی لگے گا لگی رہے کہ ہم مونٹ ابرس پہنچنے کے لیے کچھ لوگوں کو جوگارت کر کے لائے ہیں so called corporates جن کے پاس equipment سب کچھ ہے کپڑے ہیں سب کچھ پس نے دے دیا آپ کو آپ نے پیان لیا پھر آپ ان لوگوں کے پوچھا چلو پھر بیس کام تک چلتے ہیں تو they will turn around بیس کام کیا چیز ہوتا ہے تو یہ وہ چیز چپ ہو گیا ہے بیس کام نہیں ہوتا ہے بہت سے بھی سب کچھ نہیں ہو جاتا ہے بس آپ کو مونٹ نہیں ہوتا ہے پہلے آپ کو بیانلوری اپسی کو بھی آپ دیکھیں بیانلوری اپسی کو آپ دیکھیں وہ بھی ایلیق سے آئے ہیں ایلیق سے آئے ہیں because they struck a balance if they are spending money پرھبس they have a right kind of people to run the show also this I want to say if you move on to Mohan Magan also that should be our main and I hope it happens like that that okay money has come to the club no doubt about it it has become all again that favorite what corporates has come in Indian football in Mohan Magan also but I hope there should be right people to guide the team instead of fighting among each other کیا آپ نے یہ نہیں تک کیا آپ نے وہ نہیں تک کیا آپ کو کیا معلوم ہم 20 سال سے چلا رہے ہم تو پیسے لے کے آئے ہیں instead of this kind of arguments there should be a balance that money is very much on the table but the professionals also also sitting beside the table to run the show properly یہ آپ کی بات بلکل سہی ہے but یہ جو پروفشنلس اور money کے بیچ میں اور idealism کے بیچ میں جو لڑائی ہے یہ ختم نہیں ہونے والی یہ زندگی بھر ہم دنیا کی بات کریں گے چلے گی because that is the way it is and money is the driving force of how you move ahead and whatever kind of things it is my point being کہ آپ یہ سوچیے کہ 420 گرم کا اگر کوئی کوپرٹ ہوتا اگر ہم نے یہاں کوئی کوپرٹ لگا دی ہوتا تو کوپرٹ کہتا دیکھو جی 40 منٹ کا شو کرو کیا 40 منٹ سے عادہ کوئی یہاں پر اپنہ دیتا یہاں پرچ کرے گا نہیں تو ہم نے یہ دیسائٹ بھی گیا تھا کہ ہم 40 منٹ کا شو کریں گے پر ہم نے اتنا یہاں پر بات چیٹ کر لی ہے کہ ابھی یہ ساتھ دیکھ رہا ہے کہ ہماری اوپر کوپرٹ ہاتھ ہے نہیں ہماری اوپر ہمارا ہاتھ ہے نیوس کلک پالے ہمارے کو اتنا ٹائم سے سپورٹ کر رہے ہیں اور ہم لگے بھی ہمارے آرام سے مجھے لیں لیکن یہ سوچی ہے because again good analogy possible because yesterday we were having an editorial meeting and while there is no as such a cooperation that is not rather the key difference is that directly speaking cash is not the driving force behind doing this show or besides the editorial stand or policy or whatever way of operation of this show right so there is an editorial collective that does make comments like exactly this the general feedback is that your videos are too long and our counter point to that is that if ten people are watching this show on a regular basis right who are saying that they want to have these discussions or listen to these discussions in great detail then why should I exclude them those people that want to listen to only the first 10 minutes or the first 15 minutes and then carry on with their lives are welcome to do that anyway right but why should I deny the 10 people or one person that wants to listen to this conversation for one hour and get into as much depth as we managed to share in that conversation right and therefore we proceed and then you look at different formats you can put a small version on Instagram or IGTV you can put three versions of one show so these options come by which you are also taking care of your consumers in the end because they are critical if no one watches this show it's no point for us to do it and why are we asking these questions the idea is not to bash anyone the idea is that unless journalists or the media ask these questions we will continue to remain in a cycle where somebody or the other is getting screwed over in this manner right where how does a young club figure out how to operate let's say a club is starting today what what are the lessons how do they learn if no one will not document like the stories they write talk to people collect information journalism then they write the story not that they write anything from their mind right so that is like a synergy whatever you want to call it there are arguments here also where is forever be there of course it will be and that's the only way for anyone to grow whether it's this show or East Bengal football club or East Bengal's cricket team or quest itself they are bound to have disagreements and it will only come to any kind of forward movement if there is some balance in terms of some compromise some negotiation process or your basic fundamental understanding of everything is the same between any two people whether they are your parents your partner your spouse any two people that's never gonna 100% happen to all the husbands that we feel you so what about you think because there are not so many goals there is a lot of straightforward you gave 80% you handed over 80% of your rights to rpg is the name of the company the rpg group rpg group because i read your article you are saying that they do not want to keep a majority because my point is when these takeovers happen it's a takeover at the end of the day someone is taking over someone when these takeovers happen the person who is being taken over a lot of the times when these contracts are signed they say look when you takeover you will employ still on contract i have it on contract that you will employ 50% of my workforce was there something like that in the contract because if there isn't something like that in the contract then the fault lies with Mohan Bagan and the fault lies with that the money that came in nothing else i have not seen the contract so i cannot comment on what is the contract but we can only see what is happening in front of our eyes that everybody is a winner 80k is a winner Mohan Bagan club is a winner Mohan Bagan official is a winner don't think Mohan Bagan is a winner i disagree with you at the moment everything is very hunketory as i was telling you at the start only thing a bunch of local players who have played well for Mohan Bagan this year who has done well for Mohan Bagan in past couple of years also including the coach see generally we don't see champion team disintegrating ہم کیا دیکھتے ہیں کوئی بھی team champion ہوتا ہے تو آپنے پورا team وہ پکڑے رکھتے ہیں کہتے ہیں اگلے سال کہیں مجھا جا دیکھ لنگے ایک سال اگر بہت پہلے جو کجا جو پسٹا ہےalu بہت ہوتا ہےungkin جو نا سب سے شویس روہوز دے لگا جو جو کلب ایژنٹاڈ رہی ہے جو یا سب کلب میں یا بہت آ�انائی的 کلب کے بہت ہے جو کلب کو پر آئی ساتھ ہے جو ایک کلب میں بہت منحوردہ کلب میں بہت ہونے گا جو چیز کے بہاملے کے بہت ہوتا ہے جو那ی کلب کے بہت ہوتا ہے جو ہی چیزوں کا فتحان کی کوشکہ ہوتا ہے لے بہت ہے تو سب سے پہلے کٹتا جو پتہ ہے وہ پلیر کا ہی کٹتا ہے even though جب پروفیشنلیزم کی بات کریں ہم the highest demands for پروفیشنلیزم come from the same people right players in indian football now can no longer eat butter chicken and all of that they have to follow اور وہ کیا تھی وہ بریانی جائے جو کلکتے کی بریانی ہاں ہاں ہاں ہاں ہاں ہاں ہاں ہاں ہاں جو بھی ہے اس کے بعد you know so so on the one hand players کی تو sceneی آلگ ہے اُن کا نہ تو کسی نے سوچا ہوگا management میں کی ہم اپنے players کو کیسے بچائیں نہ ہی کوئی اس کی ترقیب ہے یا کوئی solution ہے اس کا yeah yeah وہ سب جو موان بگان والے management والے existing تھے before this merger happened وہ یہ سوچنے کی ہم اپنا کیسے بچائیں جو بھی ہمارا power and decision میں رول ہے club میں اس کو کیسے ہم برکرہ رکھیں right وہ ہی میں پوچھ رہا ہوں کی بیتیا and why بیتیا and بابا دیوارا has been released and David Williams and Roy Krishna have been retained because because because because the plan for the plan for the plan for the plan for the plan for the plan for the plan and they couldn't better foreigners they can find better foreigners so that means Roy Krishna is a fantastic player but he has not been been retained on his performance criteria not only he has been retained but I don't think that what about Baba Divala that player who came in the last and scored 10 goals and I'm very sure if you tomorrow اب سبھان جو اور کون پہنچوں نے اس بیٹھنے کی تعلیق دی ہے اب اس کے ساتھ کوئی دکھا ہوں اس نے بھی کہا ہی ہے مجھر ہوگیا جو بھی ہوگیا دیتے ہیں اب آپ کے پلٹ پہ ہیں چالیس پلیر تیک ہے جی آپ نے کہا مرهبا چالیس پلیر ہے اب ان چالیس پلیر سے مرے کو بائیس کا سوارڈ بنانا ہے اور میں نئے اڑشنز بھی کروں گا تو میں پندرہ کا سوارڈ بنانو گا کون ہے وہ پندرہ پلیر جو میرے کو لگتا ہے معون ٹیبرس لیگ میں کھل سکتے ہیں دیرا دون لیگ سے میرے کو کون سے وہ لگکے لگ رہے ہیں جو ابھی کے ابھی کھل پائیں گے یا ابھی کے ابھی نہیں کھل پائیں گے تو دو سال میرے ٹیم میں رہیں گے انٹگریٹ ہوگے اور نئے بچے آئیں گے تو وہ ہے طریقہ کرنے کا اب وہ سبجیکٹے بے کہ اگر آپ کو لگ رہا ہے بابا دیوارہ یا بیتیہ کھل سکتا ہے نہیں کھل سکتا ہے لیکن آپ ٹیک ہے آپ بیٹھ جائے یا ہم کتبے گلیں گے اگر آپ سبجیکٹف طریقے سے دیکھو نا سر میں نے آپ کا پیس پڑھا ایک وہ لڑکا ہے ازردین ملک اگر آنسٹی سپیکین ای ٹی کے اور بای آئی سیٹن the بگننگ میں مہن بگان نہیں ہے کیونکہ مہن بگان اور ای ٹی کے کے بیچ میں جو مہجر ہوا ہے مہن بگان بگان ہوتا ہے پھر آپ کو کہتے ہیں کہ مہن بگان بیٹھ جائے گا کیونکہ کلب لیگزی لیگزا ہوتا ہے اور now someone has come in to it and is infusing a certain amount of cash in to it and taking it to another level but now that it has 80 کے مہن بگان مہن بگان is second on that name it is not the first name it is 80 کے that is said first then is مہن بگان اب رہی ہی 80 کے کے نظریہ سے جو آپ کا کوپرٹ والا سوچ ہے اگر میں اون کے بورد میں بیٹھا ہوتا جو میں کبھی بیٹھوں گا نہیں پر اگر کبھی بیٹھا ہوتا تو میں کہتا کہ کلکتے کے جو لڑکے ہیں جنہوں نے بہت بڑا یکدان رہا ہے اس لیگ میں جیتنے کے لیگ because you know this is not a club which is run by the glitz and glamour جو ان کلبز کو فولو کرتے ہیں وہ glitz glamour والے لوگ نہیں ہے وہ لوگ ہیں جو وہ far away from the glitz and glamour so if you want to retain their interest and if you want to retain their love and connect with the club then make sure and which is why again I am saying when that contract would have happened make sure that at least 7 to 10 players or at least 5 to 7 players from that Mohan Baghan team who have the connect with Kolkata are in my squad because whenever you talk about ATK for all the amount of money and the number of ISL titles that they have won they do not have a connect with Kolkata and that is one of the big reasons they are players پرنائے حلر is there پیطم کوٹر is there they are players but I think these boys should have also got a chance I think why not I mean also some of this is probably speculation in that we don't know what the final squad list will be for the next season when the next season will happen all of that stuff I think we will find these boys are out no body has contacted them the boys I have written about are out how many boys have been retained from the squad I think some of them have been retained Subha Ghosh could be sent to the second team then I think that Jamshed Nasiri's son could be retained for the second team what is his name I forget his name Jamshed Nasiri's son then I think Eskir Shahil will be retained I think Eskir Shahil will be retained and one more player and that they had a very good season these two could be retained but I think there are a lot of players and Ashutash Mehta may be retained which I am not very sure about like captain Gurjinder Kumar that Punjab boy actually he is the second Punjabi after Journal Singh to lead Mohan Magan in history no Punjabi has become Mohan Magan captain except the great journal Singh so he clearly has not been contracted so I think he is going to one of the ISL I think he is going to is not east ایک سافہ بلدو سے Gurjinder was that boy جو پونے میں بھی کلتا تھا پونے میں کلتا تھا ایک time تھا جب وہ انڈیا کیا سمپل سی بات ہے for all your allegiance and for all your love for these clubs that I have been doing and so you might think they are on a different level مہن بگانیس میں گول گورجندر was that good بایوز گورجندر not playing for an ISL side in these last six years سی بات ہے سی بات ہے سی بات ہے میں تو کہہ رہا ہوں if you are playing for Mohan Magan میں تو مان رہا ہوں because you are not playing amongst the best Indian players سمپل you can hate on me but at the same time when it comes to performance at least if I go strictly by last year ہمارے بھنیوں میں آخار کریں گےIDEALLEEK ہوا بہت آخر than ISL players انڈیا بھر دیتے ہیں میں تو بہت ایک بہت دینچہ بھی نہیں ہے انڈیا بہت دینچہ بہت دینچہ بہت بہت گے IASL میں و ایک ایک بہت sarcasm ایک ایک بہت بہت بہت به جوسی بہت بہت بہت بہت بہت بہت زیادہ ایک نئی چیز آگی ہے جس میں آپ کو سوچ بدل کے جانا پڑے گا تو وہ سوچ بدل لے کے لئے آپ کے شمطہ ہے نہیں تو وہ سوچ بدل لے کے لئے آپ کسی اور کو لارے ہیں تاکہ وہ سوچ ملے کے آپ کو پیگی باک لے کے لگا جائے but in that piggy back you're losing your identity you're not realizing you're also then losing the part that you might be nowhere in the next 10 years they might not be in the next 10 years مطلب ہم کسی کے جیب میں 80 روپیا ہے اور میرے جیب میں سے 20 روپیا ہے then should I fall on his feet that is my question اس کے نظریعے سے سوچوں نا جس نے کبھی 80 روپے دیشیں نہیں ہے آپ یہ بھی تو سوچوں میں تو ان کے بارے میں سوچتا ہوں جو لوگ آ کے سیگنل پر بیسا مانکتے ہیں اور ہم لوگ ان کو اتنے لوگ ہیں تو اُس کے درار کرتے تھے ہڑا پہلی ہے یہاں سے بھغا بھغا ان ہم لوگ کرتے رہتے ہیں میں بہت باری لوگوں گاہتا ہوں کبھی ان کے نظریعے سے سوچوں جنہوں نے اپنے جیب میں 500 روپے شایر دیکھیں نہیں ہوں گے آپ کے جیب میں 500 روپے نہیں ہوں گے سوچتا ہوں گے اس کے مطلب یہ سوچتا ہوں اس کے مطلب یہ سوچتا ہوں گے کیونکہ 150 سال کلاب جو چلے ہیں وہ تو چلے ہیں وہ 500 روپیا میں یا 500 روپیا میں چلے مجھے معلوم نہیں ہے جب آپ نام 80 کے مohan بگان ہے کیونکہ آپ کے نام میں کھو رئنگ نہیں ہیں اچھ морہ بڑھا رہا ہوں ہم sequences سے دیکھا ہوں گے اگر کیا هذای میں ایک کلوب کلوز کو ایک حالت کر دیتے ہیں جو جو ان کا ہے ان کا لگیسی ان کا جو پالوئنگ ہے انہوں پارٹ of that is to imbibe 57810 player who are part of your title winning challenge who had a کولکتہ connect which is why I was arguing with you as far as the foreigners connect ایک سال آیا ہے چلے گیا ہے میں کہہ رہا ہوں جو کولکتہ کے بچے ازرودین ملک بوگ اس کے صاحیل بوگ یہ سب لڑکے ہیں ان کو رکھے team میں چاہے وہ بی team میں ہوں چاہے مین team میں ہے but they need to be there but that wasn't there تو تھوڑے تھوڑے لڑکی جا رہے ہیں تو if if I was 80 case management I would change it sir بھائے جو سیدہ گرین مرون کر دی دا کیونکی 6 سال کی لگیسی کچھ نہیں ہوتی کیونکی اگلے 6 سال پاتھ وہ بھول جائے گا یہ ریڈن بائٹ ہوتا تھا so let us wait what happens even the red and white thing to begin with goes back to the same point you were bringing up about Mount Everest آپ کا کہی سے کہی سے نہیں ہے کوئی this is a year one club سیدہ آپ کو کنکٹ کرنا ہے اٹلیڈکو مدریٹ سے so your aspirations are directly there اور آپ کو لگا کہ آپ نے اگر جرزی اسی تیب کی جرزی پین لی یا ٹیکٹکل ڈیل سائن کر لیا تو آپ اسی لگل پہنچ گئے جب کیا آپ رہلائیس کرنی رہے کہ جو مجورٹی کل کتے کا جو فان بے سے they don't even care about اور وہ بھی کل کرا شکرہستی مجھورا کہ تو پہنچ کل کرنا کے لئے میں ایک چاہتا ہے تو آپ نے کثر دے نہیں کیا اور میں کہ آپ نے mehr than before اور انھیں جب آپ نے ایک بہت weniger thanا کہ آپ نے ایک بہت کھوٹace also than and than بی بل دو ما دو وپی wanted to and how how do we then sort of put in a two bits so that our identity isn't lost مرمجہ بارے کے اگر انڈیا سرخانوں کی باقیوں کو جاتا ہے نا اگر انگران کے بارے کے دوستناف کو مطلب کیا جاتا ہے مرمجھے دوستان ہے سواری انگران کھونی ہے۔ اس کی طرح کیا ایدانتییٰ بھیاد کا دوسرا ایک IOTی اس دینا ہوتا ہے اور ایک خالفہ ، کھونی کھونی اگر انگران کو کھونی ہے موہن بگان بیوز کمپلیٹلی بلدہ بی امرجر اوہ بات کی بات دیکھی جائے گی پر all you people watching us on youtube and on facebook do comment on what you think about these two clubs and where they stand currently and if you agree with us if you disagree with us it's perfectly fine man everyone has their own opinion تو آپ کو Disagreement دینے ہیں and you think very completely ہم ہوا میں یہاں پہ بولے جائے گا بولو کھل کے بولو ہمیں کوئی پرواہ نہیں ہے ہم بڑے پیار سے سنتے ہیں وہ دوسری بات ہے ہم اس کے وانے میں اگلے show میں کبھی بات نہیں کرتے ہیں ہم کا youtube comment پڑ لیتے ہیں so don't think your youtube comments are going to waste because we're not responding to you we read everything and we of course take it and we talk about it in our edit meets before the next shoot that we do our next shoot hopefully it's a bit of an organizational kind of announcement we are moving towards a separate youtube channel as well what are you saying man آپ دیکھتے ہیں ہم ہوں کرکٹشور بھی کرتے ہیں ہم اوکر کچھ اور بھرے ہم بھی بھی ہوتے ہیں ہم امتہ ہوتے ہیں تو ہم جانگوں کو پہلے ہیں گا سٹلیک اور بھرے جانگ کے پر ہے ہم یہاں بہت ہی ساتھ ہوتے ہیں کیونکہ جانب justipper مفاکہ رہے ہیں ہمارے کیا پہلے ہوں ان کا چرف بھی ہوتے ہیں اوکردہ خورمت بھی بھی بھرے ہے کسی بہت دیکھیں گے cartoons ا grades show some of those comments that famous saying we don't know but we isn't really address either because one of the feedback that we have gotten is that because Newsclick produces is a news channel a news website produces a great deal of content the sports content gets kind of lost in the larger scheme of thing so, we wanted to have a more kind of streamlined away or getting it to the people who are interested in it پندرہ سال میں پندرہ سال سے ہم وہ اپسوٹ بنا رہے ہیں شاید اگلہ پندرہ سال لگے اُس اپسوٹ کو بھار لگانے گے لیکن جب بھی آئے گا اس کو ضرورت دیکھنا کافی ہم نے باتچیت کریے لوگوں کے ساتھ ایریک پارٹلو ہے گورمانگی سنگ ہے سو کبندر سنگ سر ہیں جو جیسیٹی کے کوٹس تھے انڈیا کے کوٹس تھے تو کافی لوگوں کا پسپیکٹف لائے ہیں