 Welcome to another episode of a frightfully forgotten trash or treasure before we get started though What are we drinking? Why is cracking bud today? We're gonna be tackling another Canadian movie 1987's the gate But I remember watching it as a kid a lot and loving it and did not seeing it for a long long time been kind of like Is this good as I remember it being right so we're gonna find out if the gate still stands the test of time That's right. Steven Dorff is in this. He was in Blade and The new leather face movie that came out not too long ago 2017 I didn't mind that movie actually. I didn't like it Lewis trip is in this So is Christina Denton. She was in growing pains So the gate is a pretty simple plot really when you boil it down to brass tacks So our main character Glenn he's sleeping one night He has like a nightmare wakes up and realizes that the tree that he's little tree houses on Yeah, is being torn out by you know, the family wants to get rid of it leaves a big gaping hole in the ground His parents are going away. Glenn's sister Al is gonna take care of him His best friend Terry has come over for the night to have a sleep over sleep over upstairs Well, Al throws a party downstairs. Yeah, the kids start joking about levitation They coax Borrell Glenn to participate in this levitation, right and they start doing it He's sitting in the chair and he starts actually Levitating coming off the ground and his head all goes into that lamp So that night Terry kind of has this weird kind of nightmare about his dead mother coming back Wakes up and realizes he's holding the household dog. Oh, which is now dead the poor thing he drops We're Angus Angus The next day Terry goes home and he finds out his dad has left him alone He's gone off to work. He's all by himself. So what does he do? Blast some metal music exactly starts blasting this album by a band called Sacrifices the album tells the story of how to raise Demons and also how to put them back and when you play it backwards Tells you how to close how to get close the gate. Yeah, send the demons back where they came from We learned that there needs to be a sacrifice a blood sacrifice put into that gate Friends of Al is supposed to take the poor dog to the vet to go get cremated, but the fucking thing is closed So this stupid asshole is driving around the dog like a passenger seat the dead dog Poor dog y'all takes the dog to the backyard and puts it in that pit The demons and the minions start to come out and start to raise hell and it's up to them to try and stop it All right, so what is the trash of this movie? It's weird because I remember loving the movie as a kid Yeah, and I hadn't seen it in a long long time and I watched it a couple of months ago And it's kind of like ah It's not as good as I remembered it being so we decided to do this episode of watching the third time tiebreaker It's good, but I felt like it could be here. It could be like a masterpiece, but it's just Really good, and I thought what was missing from the movie was The dialogue is pretty fucking cheesy And I thought the acting was a little subpar like they had like some real good Actors who could really make the best of the script and if the script itself was a little bit better It could have been really fucking good I also thought the movie had too many like false finishes like right they tease the gate being closed like Way too many times like about three times you think okay, they've closed the gate and then suddenly Something else happens and it's like okay now you think the gates closed and suddenly the zombies coming through the basement And it's like well, what the hell yeah, what's the deal? I thought the gate was closed, you know, yeah, and I don't know what the deal is with that zombie anyways Why is there a zombie walking around there are some things in this movie that don't make a whole lot of sense Like the zombie walking around in the basement right and sort of chasing them. Yeah, why is there a zombie guy? I thought he looks cool. I thought it was demons, right? Yeah, Terry has that vision of his mom Yeah, and it's the dog like what does that have to do with demons when Glenn gets an eye in his hand Like what does that have to do with demons like what does that have to do with anything? Yeah, like it actually they wrote the movie around the effects like we have this awesome idea for all these cool Effects we can do here. They are let's write the movie around it Don't really care a whole lot about the characters too, right? You need to have strong characters the movie doesn't really have too much of that Yeah, like you don't really care about Glenn really. Yeah, I don't really care about Al You know when Alan Terry get taken away by the demons Yeah, you don't even really notice really you don't even notice that they're gone. I felt worse for Angus Exactly, right? Yeah. Yeah, so terrible for Angus. Oh, so let's move on to what's the treasure about the gate All right, and I think the first thing and the best thing about this movie is the effects the Practical effects of this movie probably some of the best ever done outstanding Outstanding for a Canadian movie to boot. Yeah, this movie looks fantastic the whole look of the movie You know, yeah, and the effects like those minions man. There's little fucking minions. They're cute, too Kind of like the alien in the first alien movie He's kind of cute and they're like seamless that stop motion animation. Oh, it's just seamless really and it's just perfect It's funny how you mentioned what you thought of the movie after you watched it how it was You didn't think it sort of held up, right? Yeah, but see I had the opposite thought that I remembered it being Shittier. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and the last time I watched it. I thought it was Fucking great. Like I was like, oh man. This is this is awesome This is such fucking way better than I remembered it Yeah, but the effects to have a huge part to do with all the zombie falling and then turns into those Mega things and they scurry under the door like oh man. Did you see the new? Trailer for the new Ghostbusters the mini staypups. No, I didn't see that one. It's all super CGI, right? And I was complaining about it on Facebook and somebody's like, oh, well, you couldn't do that with practical effects I replied to the guy saying watch 1987's the gate if a shitty Low-budget Canadian movie can make you believe that these minions are real in 1987. I think in 2021 you can do you can do it. Yeah, it's mini staypuffs Fuck have you not seen anything before 2000 or whatever? So if anyone wants to tell me that CGI is better than practical Watch the gate and then I can tell you to fuck off. Yeah, the story for this movie is is actually really good And it plays in too with the whole that satanic panic shit of the time right Metal music and they're trying to they're trying to cancel it or they're trying to put, you know Warnings on albums and stuff like that. That's where that's what they use for this movie Which is really cool back then when you got a when you got an album like a record a lot of times You'd get the booklet the album was a story was like a full You know interactive thing an album was a fucking Piece of art and then them using the idea of playing the record back backwards at all Yeah, you know exactly where yeah, you'd get Another story out of playing it backwards and it just so happens to play into this with demons and everything right it's perfect It's great. It's a great movie for kids. I think it's a good kids horror movie Yeah, I loved it as a kid So did I and that's one thing that the 80s did great that we don't get nowadays is a horror movie that's Made for kids But it's not kiddy. Yeah, exactly still gritty and dark and scary Almost treats kids like adults. You know almost to a certain point, right? The directing for this movie is I thought it was really really good a lot of the shots a lot of the scenes Look fantastic. You follow along with it Almost on the edge of your seat kind of that's the way I felt anyways I really liked it. I thought the director did a great job. So overall I guess we'll have to rate this movie Treasure it could be a classic And it's just a cult classic All right, I just would have done a few more things better It would have been an all-time great as opposed to something that we talk about right? It's just like a niche thing or something almost. Yeah, could have been goonies level Yeah, we just had the right actors and a little bit of a better script I agree. Yeah, but it's treasure nonetheless It is. Yeah, it's definitely a movie that I think every horror fan must watch Exactly, and I think every kid should watch too kind of like the goonies, right? Exactly, yeah Every kid needs to watch this movie. This movie did spawn a sequel the gate two which I haven't seen in Ages Maybe there'll be another trash or treasure for the gate two in the future. It's trash. I can tell you that now I saw it not that long I all bought it It's pretty bad. Yeah. Oh Christ well until next time keep drinking