 All right D-Led. He's been playing pretty well, and you know it's a great credit to Matt and how he's been playing really the entire offense. But yeah, very pleased with Matt said it many times, so it's cool to see him recognize. And just moving forward, what are some of the things Matt can continue to do and continue to help the team? Well, all of us. It's not just Matt. It's myself, everybody, every player and coach. We got to continue to get better. There's things every week. There's always things that come up, and that's the name of the game as you go through. We're right in the middle of the season. We're not even at the halfway point, right? We got nine games to go. Long season, we're right in the mix. We got to get better because we're playing a really good team on Sunday down in Dallas. Yeah, just getting ready for them, looking at the offense that they have. Looks like they've got a lot of weapons over there that you all have to continue with. Sure. It's a really talented, probably the most talented roster in the NFL. They've got good players in all three phases, and we've got to be ready to go. And a defensive, it looks like they coached Dan's trying to attack on the defensive side of the ball. What are some of the traits of the defensive, even though they're not coming off a good performance? It's one game in the NFL. Do you let them live and die every week by their areas? Their overall body work, they're six and two. They've got a lot of turnovers. They've got a lot of really good football players. They attack the football, and they fly around. Michael. Thank you. So, you guys, about a few years ago, you know, one in three weren't going all that well. What do you think has changed with your team to put you all on playoff contention? We're in the middle of the NFL season. Again, if you've got the, what was me, mindset, it's probably in the business for you. So, like I said, I don't live week to week and die with the daily narratives. So we're our four and four. That's what we are. It's what we deserve to be. But nine more opportunities to go. But really, you know, if you can't focus with what's ahead of us, it was a huge game on Sunday down in Dallas. And, you know, you'll get humble quick. So that's the challenge of the week. So that's, that's how we look at it. We got a really good opponent. We are where we are. All that matters is Sunday. What's the change from what it was in prior stomps? I think you could probably use Dan's comments. I mean, he talked about it in his pressure on Monday. He evolved and reinvented himself playing a lot of man football. But I know Dan Quinn is a terrific football coach. He's one of the best genuine guys in his business. And those guys are ready to roll. So playing a lot of man covers or playing multiple looks, but the always trade is those guys are going to play fast and attack the football. Can Tate, from having played under Dan, that can maybe help him? You're not asking that. You know, I mean, you're looking at defense. You're going to have people you've worked with every long, every, every stop. Coaches and other coaches, players, you know, it's just what the business is. I mean, with the way that the business is set up now, very different than it was 30 years ago. Give or take with free agency, the way the roster, I mean, look at our roster, how much it's even changed during the season. So you guys are very familiar with a lot of coaches and a lot of players on different teams. Just because you know somebody that challenge every week, people continue to evolve. It's a super competitive league. So at the end of the day, you have to ask one of those guys. And then just lastly, is Tate, I know you said it's possible, do you anticipate he's going to practice this week? I do. Tori? Doesn't mean he's going to necessarily play, but he can practice. Ask about the Jalen Mayfield update. Can you kind of just explain what you've seen Jalen Mayfield week one to Jalen Mayfield now kind of at play points? He's played like a rookie, but been effective for us for a lot of snaps. I mean, it's probably a good thing you haven't asked me about him. That's what you usually want from your alignment and your long snapper. And that's the part of the business. So playing solid, believe in him, like a lot of guys though, I mean, there's always things we can look to improve on. But it's a good thing you haven't asked me about him. All right. I think it's a lot of questions for you. So it was kind of like the styles of seeing the guy like Anthony Rusby on the field, you know, those 350 plus guys don't kind of have gone away in NFL today's game. So how was it, you know, seeing him come in and being really helpful in the run game against the run game? Yeah, I wouldn't necessarily have gone away. I mean, we played some guys. I mean, the Giants were pretty heavy in there. A lot of teams, depending on your defensive philosophy. So it's nice to have a guy like anything rush that could come in there and it was effective and, you know, and we'll see, you know, week to week what the game plan is, but who's up, who's down. But please, how Anthony played. And, you know, he was very productive in his role on Sunday and it helped us win. Yeah, I don't get into comparisons like that. He's a good football player. He can rush the passer. So, you know, you got to take account for all those guys every week. Like I said, it's NFL. Most teams have pretty good players. So he's obviously been productive in the past rush. He's got a lot of speak and cover. He's a really good player. Like I said, this is one of more talented rosters in the league. So we got, we got, we got our challenges, but I don't look at it as a comparison. So you guys can, you know, whatever. I just, I just tell you where mine goes. I mean, there's good players a week to week. So Saints had a handful of really good defensive players. So do the Dallas Cowboys be the same story every week. I mean, there's good players a week to week. So Saints had a handful of really good defensive players. So do the Dallas Cowboys be the same story every week. Yeah, sure. I mean, you got to account for all the players in the defense. You guys get a two point lead. And obviously you want to maintain that. What do you hope the defense cleans up? It does. Again, you're looking at kind of on the surface here. It goes, there's all cause and effect in every game. It's a national football league. Sure, we got to be, we got to be better in certain stretches. And you don't want the penalties to happen where you give up short fields and a quick amount of time. Because normally in that situation, the clock to your advantage, they hit one explosive play, got a touchdown on it. We didn't do our job in offense. It's all three phases. If you just look at it in the defense, those are easy narratives and great. I get it. But if you really want to look at really what happened. So as a team, we got to play better. And you say that with the grand assault. So you can, this always is the thing is you got to be careful with stats or you want to, you know, church it up a little bit and call it analytics or whatever you want to call it to sound smart. In a day, there's only so much time left in the game. And in all three phases, you've got to play pretty clean to finish off a good football team. But we have finished games. Last time I checked, we won in the four quarter, four times. So, yeah, as you said, we all wanted to be more comfortable. But to do that and play a more complete game, when you give them a short field and you punt, you add on a 15 yard penalty, they get a DPI, clock's not moving and they're gaining a lot of yards. And then we got the rough in the, rough in the passer. So then that's another penalty that gets them down there. And then now it's a one possession game and we didn't do a good enough job in the next drive to handle it. And then they have a, they have a, a pump return across the 50. So you're told in the last two off in the drives, they had a really short fields with a lot of penalties, which labeled otherwise you're sitting back there and you're playing soft zone, they're checking it down. Great. They may pad some passing stats. There's probably not enough possessions left. So when you don't execute, we're not cleaning the penalties. So you can't just sit there and put them on defense. You got to put them on special teams, you got to put it on offense, put it on me. But then ultimately at the end of the day, we still finish the fourth quarter. So there's always things to improve on, just like we got to get better in the run game. There's always things. That's, that's the name of the game. You continue to look objectively. So that's that answer question. All right. Also, you kind of lose the special teams. I know that's kind of been a little bumpy for you guys. Has it? What's way? What's, what's way you're talking about? Okay, so with special teams, would you give them the huge kick obviously? Do you put the field goals and extra points and some of the kicks that, the kicks, you know, the ones we had inside? I mean, you got to put the whole thing in there. So he's a special team. You're talking about, that's why I'm asking you to define what you're asking me. What part? In the game, per se. The pulver turn. Yeah, they have one pulver turn. They have one pulver turn. Obviously, you guys went on the field, though. What are you seeing for special teams to be able to battle through them? Like a lot of three phases. There's things we got to clean up. There's some good. Obviously, some bad. You know, we got to clean it up and be more consistent. But you're going to take the whole thing. When you're saying, throwing out these grand statements, you're asking about, yes, we gave up a pulver turn, late critical play. Deontay Harris made it. We got to cover better. We got to get off blocks. He made a play. That's better. Also, the pulver turn. Before that, let's not hand them things. You got to bang, bang, playing on the sideline. They're going to call that. That's hand them stuff. So it just depends on where your mindset is. You're taking the whole special teams. You're saying the pulver turn aspect in that game on Sunday. And then Harris is a pretty good return. So you got to make objective decisions whether or not you want to keep contic- to him. We sky-kicked it a couple of times so you can concede something here. So that's the name of the game. So that's why, you know, I appreciate the question, but I wanted to find that a little bit more. I know you guys can have players in for trials any given week. Sure. Regardless of your record. Just a ton of conversations that you might have about a player who has become a free agent change when you're in terms of playoff time. I think almost every team in the league have the same conversations. You know what I'm saying? What your situation is. What do you think you need? What do you think you can do anything? Whether you're, you know, you're bringing in. You know, specialist to kick to make sure you got an emergency list. You're bringing in, you know, tackles you want to look at. It's pretty common. So this time of year, guys looking at guys that may sign for future contracts. I think probably every team in the league has those conversations daily. That's what their personal apartments do. So that's what you're asking. I think probably every team in the league has those conversations. To follow up, you've had a lot of different players. Well, in the last couple of weeks, different guys stepped up to the wide receiver. Can you talk about what you've seen from your depth there? Are you content with the options that you have? So again, by the song and dance, I'm pretty happy with the guys. We have any chance we have in any position. We're always looking to improve. We've seen that. I've set it in the spring, set it in the summer, set it in camp. Say it again this season and it showed up. You know, we had James Watter as we brought in here. Made a huge play on Sunday. Anthony Rush, Mike Pannell. The list goes on and on and on. So anytime, our personal apartment does a great job. We have a collaborative effort. You always look to improve the roster if you can. Yeah, Coach, it was just a talk one last night on the podcast. It was like the 90s. With breath fire, I really couldn't read the defenses yet. They just started throwing screams to Edgar Bennett a lot. Can your screen and draw game help you out as you all, you know, not just keep banging your head running the ball, I guess, but just kind of thinking for some of your options. You get options every week. Depends on matchups. Sure. That's great. And so it worked. That's great. And a lot of teams found a lot of ways. We found ways to move the football. It's named the game. It's going to change every week depending on your matchups. Whatever we decide to do schematically. It's not going to be, you know, the same thing. We have to week D-led. You can improve in any area of the NFL. You can write narratives in September that aren't going to be knocked over. And then you can write them in November. I've seen this thing over and over again. There's a lot of ways to move the football. We got to get better a lot of ways. So I don't, that's a great, sure. Good, good stat for there for them. Glad to work for them. We got, we got to find ways of things that work for us. And what are some challenges that the defense will face against the number one rated offense in the league? Well, and I mean it's, it's been a very, they've turned out the last couple of seasons there. It's been a, you know, very, like I said, the Dallas Cowboys, they've usually got pretty good players. They got a high flying attack. You know, they got good players that like I said, it's more and more talented rosters. So they got, they got guys outside and Cooper and Lam, Schultz a good tight end. They got a good offensive line. Obviously, Dax really good quarterback. They can hand the ball to Ezekiel, Elliott, they can hand it to Pollard. They got a lot of ways to do that. But there's a challenge every week. Different players are there things that when you're looking at a guy, when it's free, you go back in their past to kind of find the say, oh, maybe this is a good predictor. I guess this guy can maybe do this or that. Yeah, I mean, you take everything to account. You want to take the whole body to work. If there's anything to help you, that's why if you got good scouts and you do your research and you, you can have those conversations and make the best decision for your team. And that's what we try to do. And they got to, you know, it's got to fit. You got to have a vision, you got to make it work. I guess what I was getting at are there things that you will see that you're like looking for maybe commonality trade-wise? Sure. You're kind of getting a vision whether it's football sports or whatever it might be. Yeah, there's things you see. No, not really. What happened that time when you come to your formation you're trying to figure out where you need to focus first. After these first eight games you're kind of like shy away from changing him and it gives you more chance of concentrating on the other having a better quarterback and you don't have to worry about it too much. You got to worry about everybody in Rosser. I mean, it's just things you're looking at and what you know that they're going to try to take away and that's a challenge every week when you're game playing. There's always things. Again, I mean, if you just look at numbers there's been a lot of different systems. That's where I think he's really underrated because a lot of quarterbacks are usually with the same system for most of your career or a long stretch of your career. He's changed a lot of systems and that's a credit to him. It's allowed him to kind of reinvent himself subtly that most people all know. There's some things that we've asked him to do that he wasn't comfortable with in his past that he's been he's been really effective this year for us but we'll continue to push and find the right balance but that's with every play on the roster. You know, whether he's in year 14 or year 50 like Colquitt, you know, there are still things that he's been trying to improve. So There's always to work on. You're not just going to ignore one thing. If you do, shame on you. That's what's going to, you know what I mean? Like most people are going to try to take away your strengths and that's the challenge that we can in the NFL. So there's not, if you're in a big time program, you've recruited well for a couple of years, you know, it's not just going to over. You're never going to have just overwhelming talent where you say, hey, I can ignore something. He's just better. I mean, that's the, that's a challenge in the NFL and that's just not what we believe in. We're trying to, I have concerns about every position and everything that's involved with this football team. So we're not going to neglect something and say we got it anywhere because that's to me, that's, you'll get humbled and you'll fall off Cliff Quick. Offensive yards. Why do you think it's Cliff so well for him here? You'd probably, that's a better question for him. You know, I see a good football player that's, I can, I can move the football out of ways for us. A guy, even at his age or some things that, you know, he's, again, all his experiences probably led up to this. He's, he kind of fits what we've, we're asking him to do. He can move around, he can play a lot of roles, but, so that's a better question for him. We're very pleased with him. I enjoy coaching him. How about that? Can't, better question for him. We had a vision for him and, it's evolving and, and very pleased with him. He's selling at some different things that he hasn't been asked to do before in the gear system. What are some of those things? I'm not going to talk about skiing. Yeah. Okay. Coach. You break up the season in quarter quarters. Yeah. No, I don't. Three in one. What do you attribute to the team? What's your assessment of this team? Are you asking, do you break it up in four quarters? Yeah. I don't break it up in four quarters. So, again, it's pretty, pretty simple. It's not the answer you're looking for. All we try to do is focus the objective after you play what are our issues? What can we fix? How do we get better? And that's all we really concern ourselves with regardless of the result. And so, sure, you want to start the season better than the reality. And you got to deal with what the reality was. So, it's such a long season but if you're going to live and die with every day's narrative and that's the world you want to live in, this isn't the business for you. Maybe those skill position players when they hit around 30, this is like a challenge between you and Josh. Yeah. Okay. Let's keep going. No, it doesn't aggregate me. I promise you, that's the, that's staying there all day. I enjoy this more than you guys realize. I, I just got to be somewhere at one o'clock. So, when you look at that, like the old, the old average of these six Like the agribenants? Like the agribenants. Anybody in Green Bay, D-Led's going to be up here. Oh, I didn't. I'm waiting for, to have a KGB reference for the past rush. Oh, that's too close. Or Mark Chimura, I'm waiting for all your old references. I was waiting for for the Peppers Green Bay years. Yeah. Well, D-Led, that's before D-Led. So, he was there. I'll tell you, a lot of times, the old adage was that running back to age 30, to some extent, white receivers, that's where they started to climb. Why, why do you think Patterson has, in some ways, maybe, reversed that? Well, I mean, I, I think, I go back to the age question, I, I think, there's always going to be outliers. I think, you know, just look around society today. I mean, they're probably saying, our history says, and it's probably true for most people, but there's always going to be outliers. I mean, the game's a lot different in the way guys train and the way they practice now. You know, just, I've worked with guys that played in a different era. I mean, the game's gotten a lot safer, and people are smarter in the way they train. So, that, that all has a huge factor into it, even at the, at the young, at the youth levels, right? I mean, that's, I mean, you do that, they probably ban you from football now. So, and that's, I'm just saying, like, that's where a lot of things, and then, think about the fields they play on now. You go from the old Aster Turf, I mean, God, I'm mighty. I mean, those guys in that era, especially those quarterbacks, they used to get, I mean, that was it, but even people, you'd like to think people get smarter probably seeing guys play longer than they used to. And that, you know, whether it's pertains to C.P. or not, I think you're seeing that more common around professional sports. It's anything in the NBA. I mean, you got guys that are, there's outliers, but there's guys that are playing a lot longer there too. Yeah, it's probably, it's probably a good question, but it's probably, you know, the answer that now, I don't have that data in front of me and I haven't seen some kind of study on it. But I play in the ounce. I'm so pissed. They lost to Cincinnati in the early day. I love the revenue. I'm right in his wheelhouse now. Early 90s, early 90s sports scene. I'm sick when I say I think of old Memphis State. Those teams Larry Finch and yeah, you certainly feel in the game more and that's what makes it like tough when you play at a place like New Orleans. Right. I mean, you could feel that anybody was in the stadium, you could feel in the game, obviously trying to combat and luckily we handled it well enough to have a chance to win it at the end. You know, week to week, I think the problem is if you ride, you certainly can build confidence, but if you skip steps in the week that the momentum, it doesn't carry over because the game could go right. You feel like great about the game and first play, the guy can, you know, fumble the open and kickoff confidence, but you can't skip steps because I don't think it's going to carry over whether we, however we finish in New Orleans or however Dallas played against Denver, not really going to once the ball is kicked off, noon, central on Sunday, it's not going to, that game had no effect on it. Thank you.