 What do I think governments should be responsible for? Okay. I think immigration Okay immigration control immigration control slash border security. Mm-hmm. I think general negotiations with other countries whether this is a trade agree certain types of trade agreements or Just anything that's you know, like we've got this pandemic going on right now Okay, you you need some level of inter Country communication. Okay. If you haven't like, you know, that's why it's why I'm not fully in the anarchist camp, right? It's uh, it goes against the laws of nature. So if you look at any predatory pact or any type of tribal Non-human non-homosapiens like let's talk about chimpanzees monkeys wolves There's a hierarchal level of a society structure within that tribe. Yeah Yeah, exactly. So it may as well be legitimate Yeah, I know seriously. Yeah, it may as well be legitimate. Um, I do also think the government should uh be in charge of uh So like policing. I'm cool with fire departments. I don't think that's I mean these that could technically probably be privatized, but I'm cool with that. Um What other big ones policing like just justice system federal justice system and prisons I'm not into the idea of private prisons. I think no private prisons are worse, man Fucking horrendous. Yeah, I think that creates the wrong incentives and things like that I'm not opposed to you know public school public schooling I think I think when it comes to things like schooling Um in universities and stuff. I think it's cool to have Both options, right? How do you then eliminate the issue you have today where all the student loans are guaranteed by the government? You create the worst incentive model possible So government the problem with government being Inside public schooling Is a financial incentive model, right? So it's one aid the same curriculum So everyone's getting taught the same thing But b also the incentive model is broken because the school becomes in a diploma meal because the school's Tuitions are backed by the government. So they just want to pump Students and tuition as much as they can they don't give a fuck they have zero consequences like oh, this money's backed by the government Yeah, honestly, I I don't have a strong opinion on that because I need to look into it in more detail And I don't want to just say something random, which I haven't Haven't researched So that could be one where it's good to have a but so I've already gone from the ones that I think are like 100 percent absolutely essential. Yeah, and I'm now talking about the ones where I can see the To me it's it's a bit of a sliding scale um, and then you know next you'd come to something like Health care for example where it's where where I'm very I'm very 50-50 on that one Right. I'm very 50. Okay. So you can you came Canada the same pretty much when it comes to health care. It's very similar, right? Okay, so I always talk about this America the Americans say oh Canadian great health care. I'm like, okay, hold your horses We have one it's not free. I don't know where this word free comes from my taxes pay for it So I don't know I just know free lunch like yeah, it hurts my fucking head. It's free. Let me free It's actually what I say is free at the point of service. Yeah, it's slave labor I work and they take my income and I pay for it. So it's not free So what what's good about our socialist health care system? I break my hand. I get in a car accident Something that requires emergency service. It's good for now You might wait a little bit depending on what's wrong with you, but more or less the emergency side of things are pretty good Now what's horrible about our health care system is preventative health Like horrible. So this promoting my my wife's a naturopathic doctor There's x amount of things that you're allowed to do in the private industry, which is not really private And so I always give this example and there's millions of other Canadians this way There's a whole cottage industry in Canada where it's like a health case Where they go to other countries get a vacation but get health care for super cheap or dental And so I want you know, I want to check on my like liver and kidney So you have to go to nephrology is but it's not like life-threatening. I just want to fucking check it You know, yeah, well, okay You can go wait seven months seven fucking months seven months for a fucking x-ray Yeah, I can go to Buffalo and pay a couple of bucks and get it that day Like what the fuck when it comes to health care. I think I mean I think I'm Fairly cool with the uk system because both options are there. Are you guys have both? Yeah, if you want to go private, you can go Yeah, do you not have both in the kind of full private? Oh, okay. Oh, oh interesting. Okay. So that's quite a big difference then Yeah, I can't get an MRI. There's no private MRI. Yeah Okay, see so so that is the legitimate difference. So in the uk it's like there's both So if you wanted to go like Fully private and you just wanted to pay the extra money and do all that yourself. You can right? It doesn't matter if it's dental or operations or whatever. Yeah, you can you can do that But then of course there's also the NHS. So as far as I'm concerned, I'm like, okay, cool fair You know, you've you've kind of got both. I feel kind of similar with schools It's like, okay Well, there are private schools if you want to send your child to a private school and you can afford it or whatever And you think the benefit's worth it. Cool. That's there If you are happy to for your child to go to public school or whatever Cool, that's also there. I think On both of those issues I can see In both of those sectors, I can see the issues and the pros and cons like if you went all the way with one Or all the way with the with the other right if you if you only have Private health care, for example, and there's no There's no public health care option then even even ethically I mean, it's a weird one because as someone who tends more libertarian Of course, you want to I'm I'm big in on minimizing minimizing taxes. I'm not like a Totally about I think in theoretically. Well, yes, it would be lovely to abolish taxes But we've already established that we need some type of government and some type of military and whatever. So I don't know man These days the I'll be honest with you. So we're entering something called modern monetary theory. So how How the financial system works and you know, everything's based on the u.s. Even the pound is based on that's the hedge of the world So how money's printed in the United States is you have the treasury Which is the government you have the fed which is people. It's a private company for that is The treasury issues government bonds or any collateral even now they were talking about Directly issuing stock as collateral for printing out money So they go to the fed and like here's the collateral and the fret and the fed prints out money This is what we saw in qe2 qe3 in 2008 printing and now we've gone exponential It's like I don't fuck seven trillion dollars of printing money So so everyone's watching or listening The treasury must put up some form of collateral for the fed to print money Modern monetary theory eliminates all collateral Noncollateral like there's no need for collateral the treasury in fact and can print their own money on demand as much as they want And that doesn't matter at all ever which brings up the question if there is zero collateral on money printing There is no cap as how much you can print since you are the hedge of the world And you have the military force behind you why on earth have tax Yeah, it's a good question When you can you can you can press a button right now and literally print another 10 trillion dollars? Why the fuck do you need my tax? Oh to minimize inflation. Well, oh, no I don't know. That's what they say. I need to you know, I that's it's something I'd need to No, no, there's an answer to that it gives you an illusionary It gives you illusionary sense that that money has a meaning has has value. That's it Yeah, well like that that's important to maintain because I mean if if money is going to work in any sense, then the people need to believe in it and if they don't then It's it's a Zimbabwe It literally becomes worthless, you know, money itself is just a very interesting concept in terms of what it It's one of those things that I think very few people really know what it is Everyone knows what it is, but almost nobody really knows what it is. It's just kind of Yeah, I don't know. It's it's it's an interesting thing, man, but I don't know man with with me. I'm fairly One I'm just open-minded and I'm also I have my my sort of there I have things that you know, I have very strong convictions about And very strong principles on and whatever but when stuff comes to when it comes to politics in terms of actual sort of policies I'm very much I'm pretty I'm not like a I'm not I'm certainly not not a pure pragmatist But I'm somewhat pragmatic. So I have my like certain principles and whatever, but I also recognize. Okay Look, you know, there's got there's got to be some it's it's why it's why I think it's I'm not really a fan of being So easy to box or just having one ideology. Do you know what I mean? So If you speak to someone who's like a pure pure pure a narco capitalist and like rigid on that Then it's like, okay. I get I get what you're saying from a from an intellectual ideological perspective or whatever But given where we currently are No matter what country you're talking about It's like we need to we need to work within the frame context Every single country in the world of the opposite. Yeah, it's like look I get the theory And I think it's interesting, right? It's fun to talk about or whatever, but we need to be pragmatic here. Okay You've already got the government. They're not going to suddenly be like, you know what guys We are all going to resign. We're going to just abolish taxes and Just do get on with you know, it's like that's not that's not going to happen So we can take some of those ideas and think oh, okay Maybe maybe that is a governmental overreach there like that can we can bring that in we can bring that in Or when you've got people who are I don't know how in this day and age Anyone can be like a pure communist, but they still do exist So it's like a full blown commie and things the government should like run everything And like there's just stuck in this ideology again. I'm kind of like I'm like come on man. Like how are you? Firstly, that's been tried many times and we've seen what happened but also Why why are you so confident you already know that you already are acknowledging yourself that the government has a lot of Failings and these leaders and politicians you yourself are saying you don't trust them So why would you trust to give them everything?