 Good morning. You're very welcome to Awake in the Heart. My name is Sarah Sinclair and I have a very special guest with me again this morning, a complete delight, mystic David Hofmeister. It's great to be here. It's great to see all the smiling faces in the morning. Ah, yeah. It's the tribe. It's the tribe. It's the tribe. It's very international. If this is your first time joining us either on Periscope via David or on LM Virtual or on Zoom, you're very, very welcome. LivingMiracles.org is our host and LM Virtual is the show base which we use just to share this really good news that all as well. Yeah, and so many of the people who join us come from different pathways and a lot also come from a course in Miracles. But you're just very welcome because this experience is for everybody. So this show is called Awake in the Heart. Yeah. And we joined a lot yesterday and then we went into questions from the audience as well because this is interactive. If it's your first time joining us on Zoom, we may open it up for questions. But you had just been sharing with me that you were going to go see a movie and I wondered if you wanted to share a little bit about that experience. Yeah, it was a very profound experience. Occasionally they'll come out with another Jesus movie and this one was called Risen. And yeah, I had watched the trailer and I noticed that this particular movie was more starting right around the crucifixion. Really close starting at the beginning right at the very end of Jesus' life, literally hanging on the cross and then taking it through to all of the story that we know about from some of the other movies that the Sanhedrin were so concerned about. Were so concerned that Jesus' followers would come and take the body and then would go and claim that he's risen and they'd have a bigger problem than they had. They thought when he was alive, they thought, oh my God, it will grow just followers and legend and there'll be more upheaval. And so this one has Pilate and it has a man that works for Pilate and then his assistant. And it basically reminded me a little bit of that Zero Dark Thirty when it was Jessica Chastain where they were trying to kill Osama bin Laden but then identify the body. Well, this was a body, a manhunt for a decaying body and yet in the context of it was looking for Jesus. And so this man was, you know, he and Pilate thought that all this messiah stuff was Jewish nonsense. But they knew there was a lot of unrest and I think the emperor was coming to visit so Pilate wanted things smoothed out and everything. And so he kept putting pressure and it's a very well-told, well-made story. Another one, you know, Nikita was with me and Francis and Lisa, but Nikita had some tears and it was very powerful and very impactful. Especially the point, the search goes on and on and on and he's looking for any kind of a lead and then he comes across Mary Magdala. So the presence of Mary Magdala is quite strong in this and he comes to her and he's got all these questions and she basically tells him straight to his face, this Roman man that's given the test to find the body of Jesus. He was given the test to, you know, have a couple men watch over the tomb and so, you know, he's got to follow through for his responsibilities. But basically he questions her and at some point she just looks him straight in the eye and just says, you're looking in the wrong direction. Which is quite powerful when we know the whole context of trying to find solutions in the world or trying to make sense of things. And this Roman man, he's doing the best he can. But deep down we know that he even wants to retire outside of Rome and have a family and have a quiet life where there's no death. And so he's got an incentive way down underneath all of this thing of being a Roman and kind of being in charge of keeping the Jews in hand and all of his job. But he wants that deep down and then at some point he's led to the apostles and there's Mary Magdalene and the apostles in the upper room. And goes in and the last thing he thought he would see actually was Jesus. And so just to look on his face he is just stunned and staggered because he was right there looking at him. And the dead Jesus on the cross actually part of putting the final spear in. So he has this image in his mind of the dead Jesus and then when he sees this smiling, friendly, gentle, loving Jesus it just, you know, the dead don't come back. He just has a look almost like he's seeing a vision or an image or you know, it's just staggering to him. And that was a good point because there's a lot of people in the world that have their doubts about the spiritual journey and doubts about Jesus and doubts about eternal life and considering the heaviness of the egos, you know, dark perception and darkened glass. So I think it has a tremendous transfer value and I thoroughly enjoyed that and I feel like there's a lot of good teaching movies but the best movies are when you can give yourself over to go into an experience, a direct experience and feel that deep reverence and presence. And so, yeah, it's very good. And even the preview I'd already seen on the internet of I think a Mexican movie that's coming out or I saw it maybe when I was in Mexico the preview but it's about going to the other end of the spectrum like a seven-year-old Jesus and going and emphasizing that part. And I bet it was quite amazing even as a seven-year-old. We know now with the crystal children and the indigos how that can be quite striking, especially for parents of indigos and crystals but for Jesus at seven. So that's another one that's coming around. So we live in an interesting time of amazing tools as well as our movie watchers guide. There's some ones that just keep rolling out and ever since about 2014 we've been in a little bit of a drought for spectacular movies back when we had our movie fest but it's starting to crank up again. I'm like, whoa, here we go. It's all very biblical right now too. It's very biblical, yes, and even the new book that's coming out, The Mystical Teachings of Jesus. We talked about that yesterday and then I go to see that movie and it's swirling that Christ energy in a strong way of I am calling you out of the world. Be of good cheer. You know, it's like, whoa, it's very strong. We can't help but feel this ancient song feeling coming in everywhere because that's what our call is for and everyone just feels like they're joining us in it. Like it's a rolling back the rock kind of time and everybody's in it and I feel like everyone who joins us here also that's their call to go deeper and in presence and into the unknown. Just to leave touch with what's being in their awareness of what seems like their daily lives and cut from that for a moment and just step into this space. Yeah, I think as you perceive yourself as a human being in this world you don't really see from the surface that your whole surface of consciousness is resting on this unconscious belief system that you're a body that you're a man or a woman. You have masculine or feminine traits that you have skills and abilities that you have a cultural background and upbringing and various physical traits and DNA and genetics. All of that's a projection of an unconscious belief system. And so you might say that that's really what everybody is praying for every day in their hearts even if they don't know what the prayer is. Like I need a wake up call like an inception. I need a kick. I need yesterday was our leap year show and we're getting into that leap. I need something that's going to trigger me. It's going to activate me from the inside. That's going to light me up. Very much like when you go to hear maybe the Mormon Tabernacle Choir or a great gospel singer and the gospel singer or gospel choir is just letting it rip. You know these churches everybody's when the energy of love gets activated or out there. Alexca I know you're out there Michael Beckwith and and all those you know like that kind of energy on a daily basis. I mean really really fired up and lit up because the rolling away the stone thing that the two men the soldiers that were left there. They had been up for two days and they're like oh please don't forget us. And they they fell asleep and and they were drinking and they didn't know what happened. They finally we know that there was this blazing light and it was frightening to them and the ropes they had these ropes there. The seals were burst the ropes were not cut the ropes were burst and this big stone it took seven Romans just to move it just over the top over the sepulcher. To roll this big stone over the sepulcher the rock is way across maybe 15 feet away from where it was and and it's just inexplicable circumstances. And really when you think you're a human and a body and you you're dealing with a daily life of of minutes and hours and in days and weeks and months and years. That that you you have been so accustomed to a lie so accustomed to a substitute reality or a substitute identity. It's become so ingrained so familiar that you really need a jumpstart you need a kickstart you do need miracles. The only way to really light up is going to be through the miracles and that's that's the only thing that's going to do it. So movies like this even though it's just historical events so to speak it's they are very applicable. And and then toward the end of the movie you know with Jesus appearing the second time when they're when they're out fishing and waiting for him. You know and he's happily kind of walking along on the shore and telling him to throw their net over the right side because they didn't get any fish and they got all this fish. But then that's the smiles the touches the gaze of of what was before a carcass of a man. It's quite amazing and that's just a symbol of the resurrection in the mind. Again we're not trying to to say you know you have to have all these supernatural experiences. I would say miracles are natural and even revelation is extremely natural. But in this world it's very supernatural and it's very rare. But everyone is called to light up with with this Christ identity that that's who we are. And now we we have tools like these movies are spectacular. We have got so many tools and even this book on the way you know it's the mystical teachings of Jesus. You know basically I got from Jesus at some point I was told to put together this book and I was given a series of questions. And then I was told that I would be able to go to the Bible and I would be directed at which passages from the Bible that address these questions. And then I would go to the course in miracles and I would be given passages that would even further clarify. So this book for the early students was highly impactful and it was impactful for me because for most of us watching here and most of us together we have grown up in a Judeo-Christian world. And the Bible has been a huge impact a huge influence even if the ego is hijacked a lot of the teachings and thrown in a lot of punishment penance suffering sacrifice you know it's it's spiced it up made a real spicy story for to turn it. It's like the ego is the ultimate spin doctor talk about political spin doctors it did a spin doctor thing on the Bible. But there's still some really core elements in there. So this really I would read this book and then I would be all fired up and I would just go out on the road. And believe it or not I was invited into churches and meet met people all along the way. Some Christians different walks of life but a lot of Christians and I could speak their language because I was so immersed in the in the presence of Christ in the teachings and also all the parables were brought to the forefront. So to me that was very important and my gosh you sometimes you would think I was a preacher going around by the way it would come out of me. I occasionally would give public talks but a lot of times it was mostly one on one with people. We were always uplifted we were always doing the road to Emmaus where Christ was with us and and we were our eyes were lighting up with this and so yeah I look forward to having everybody be able to to partake if you haven't yet in this kind of a book because it's amazing. Yeah I think it is I think you're talking about having access to speaking and meeting with everyone from something that is so inherent in the basic culture we're coming from. It's a way of describing even what you're experiencing using words and phrases that are familiar to them and just being able to just really just share the really good news. I always think I've got really good news to share you know there's a spring in my heart and it's my own joy that I'm sharing so there's no teaching of another. There's just the it includes everyone and that's what I've always loved about the teachings of Jesus it was for everyone. Everyone was welcome. Yeah and of course and Sarah you're from Ireland and of course the history of the Protestants and the Catholics and there's a lot of spin doctoring going on to the original Gospels but there's such a draw to the presence of love that's behind those Gospels. And what I like about this was even a child and adolescents could pick this book up and and go into the table of contents and get drawn in because Jesus gave me the questions and then he gave me the content of the answers. That was mind altering for me mind blowing to go through that the actual answers but the questions you know it's I don't know I'm into practicality. I'm just not into theology and a bunch of religion and theology I'm into experience and practicality. So some of the questions starts off who is Jesus Christ if I was picking up a book and I had no idea of who is Jesus Christ there's the question and then the answer is amazing. What is my relationship to you to Jesus speak on the parable of the prodigal son we most of us know about the parable of the prodigal son because it's so familiar in our culture. But what did it really mean what is the full impact of that what does the Bible have to say and what does the Course have to say because the Course actually mentions the parable of the prodigal son. Briefly not it doesn't go into detail but it's referred to please speak about creation in the fall of man how is fear abolished is distorted perceiving lack of vision the main problem. And it goes on and ask about the golden rule what is the devil speak on the beatitudes what is the miracle speak on charity does God require any sacrifice. What is the meaning of the crucifixion I mean this goes on that's one page and there's two three what do all the watch parables mean some of you know the Bible about that please speak of trust. It's like three pages here of questions and then the book launches into it. I just found that highly practical in my life. I was raised in the Judeo Christian tradition. I know Sarah was as well I was raised in a Protestant denomination called United Church of Christ. It never really I never really lit up in it. But I when I came much later in my life like into my mid and late 20s particularly the late 20s I just it just lit up like almost like a born again experience that they talk about but not just professing a name in Jesus. I mean from my heart just really lit up. So this was like igniting and I feel like to the teachers to demonstrate so we all have to be lit up in the spirit we have to be lit up in joy and in passion and happiness and that state of mind our attitude does the teaching. It's not so much the words the words have to line up with our attitude because if we just go out and try to give lectures on the gospel. You know it's like everybody's like oh please how many centuries do we have to listen to another lecture on the gospel. But if you're happy and you're joyful then that that does all your teaching and there may be words or there just may be a lot of laughter and hugs. Yeah it really gets to the point where there's a complete transfer of the experience like when during the time where I had been supporting with this book and gathering bits of it together and one of the additions. I had my beautiful Jehovah Witness friends call again at the door and at this time I was living in the peace house but on my own there wasn't anyone around. They came in and they started sharing about like some of the very controversial passages about the goats versus the sheep and gay or not or different things. And I had this experience where I was so happy and so in love that I could absolutely be in total agreement with absolutely everything that was being said. And yet somehow we're seeing it was opening it right up. I don't know what it was but it was most they just smiling with me. And there was just this joy and love and there was nothing left but the joy and the love and all of the text fell away. It was just joy and love that was left. Yeah words are so crude. I mean they're helpful to us for a while but then you get into this rapture kind of experience of love and joy and connection. And you really feel the sameness like we're all the same so it doesn't really matter what they're talking about they could be talking about anything. And there's such love that you you join with the truth in them and it goes way beyond the body way beyond the words and it's it's the most spectacular experience there could ever be. And to me that's what everybody is is calling for their praying for that whether they are even conscious of what they're praying for they just want to feel the love. And the connection. And I love I've had so many experiences with Jehovah's Mormon missionaries you know I could feel the love and connect right with their heart. And we just rejoice together and there was no like trying to split hairs over passages from the Bible or theology. But the love just swept us away. It feels to me a little bit like the movie you're describing which I haven't seen yet risen. Nikita described a little bit to me too and all I could feel was that even if you're on a manhunt even if you're seeking vengeance and death. But you're looking for Jesus you're being so supported in that in finding Jesus in finding this experience like nothing it doesn't matter what drew you out to begin this quest of such or this this opening up like everything can be utilized. Nothing's in the way it can be all joined with and from the description you gave it's like Apostles everyone's like I will help you find him rather than I will keep him hidden from you because of your your motivation I will help you truly find him. Yeah one of the Apostles when he first came to the Apostles was so happy. It reminds me of some of the people in our community. He was so happy and smiling and then and he was getting grilled. The Roman was grilling him grilling him like if you know what to if you've been to a crucifixion and he was like no I haven't and he's still smiling his curly hair. And he said well the Romans like well let me tell you about it and goes into great gruesome detail about it and and then says you probably weren't there because you probably ran away so you didn't have to be near such a thing. But still he says I want to know the truth of what what happened you know we're their followers you know taking the body in this and this and and where is that body. The Roman is very determined to find this body and finally you see this Apostle just get the biggest and you'll set me free if I tell you the truth and the Romans like yes. So he says everywhere where is Jesus everywhere and goes running out the door because he's been told by the Roman tell me the truth and I'll set you free. He goes everywhere and he's happier than ever he's zooming out the door into the light and very striking well later on. You know the Roman is still now he's seen Jesus he's questioning still it's hard to believe but he's the Apostles are trying to say what they've witnessed around Jesus miracles and healing of the second. You know all the things and he's still just questioning very questioning mind the Roman but but then the leper comes and they're beating this leper some people and throwing him on the ground and everything and Jesus stops goes over and just and totally loves the leper strokes him and braces and the face and everything just is like this and then as the leper gets up and turns back at them the face is made whole the hands are made whole very powerful scene and then the same laughing Apostle. Turns and looks at the Roman man and he goes it was like that's what I'm talking about. He actually got to witness what the Apostles had witnessed for three years. He said that's what I'm talking about. You know with the biggest smile face like you are going to believe this and that's the same Christ energy that we all have the Christ presence that can heal the sick raise the dead for use for those of you that read the course. I think that's a miracle principle number 23. You can heal the sick and raise the dead because you made sickness and death and can abolish them both. You can abolish depression addiction all kinds of envy fear jealousy greed you know all the emotions but also sickness and death as well because there's no order difficulty in miracles. So this is really the good news and this is more bringing what's the presence that was there underneath the Gospels really fully into awareness. And that's really what our function is is miracle workers is to live it to breathe it to walk it to extend it in everything we think and say and do without exception. And so literally if any of you are wondering what this is about it's like yeah it's Jesus saying I'm calling you out of the world. I'm calling you out of the world of linear time. I'm calling you out of the world of pain sickness suffering and death into eternal life. And I don't know about you but there's just nothing more important than eternal life. And when I get into that experience of the present moment the holy instant where I get into revelatory experiences then I it's just a confirmation that it's all true. Just absolutely all true. And I always felt that that three days pause in the story of Jesus between being put in the tomb and the seeming first witness of the resurrection was that what do you want? Full transfer of training what do you want? What world do you want to see? And then it was that was it was like a decision in the mind that we've been offered in every moment. What do you want to see? What are you looking for now? And and I always felt that rather than being like a test of faith so much as it was just the invitation into into the looking and within this book to the watch parables have always very much appealed to me because I always wondered in Gethsemane and that you know will you not watch with me? You know some versions make it sounds like Jesus is somewhat tragic and they're not able to watch with him whereas it's like will you watch with me and it's every moment will you watch with me now? Yeah I see this great transfer and I've never thought about that but I do remember that scene from the Bible and from some of the movies about and it kind of spins as if Jesus is going through a temptation. He's certainly not being tempted there in the garden because he's three years prior to that he's he's accepted the resurrection the atonement of the mind. But how they all sleep and that's like in our movie Dark City sleep sleep you know there he's just saying be vigilant for God and his kingdom. It's the third lesson of the Holy Spirit in the course and that's what he was really calling everybody to and they couldn't stay awake. It's more I think to the resistance probably in their minds like they could feel everyone kind of knows ultimately what's coming and some of those scenes that would come in the days that would follow with the arrest and the trial and the walking through the carrying across and then the crucifixion scene. Those are scenes that you know as adoring as the apostles were of Jesus that would be hard for anybody. It would be hard for you to watch those kind of scenes with a best friend, with a husband, a wife, a mother, a father, a child. Anyone going through those kind of things would be you know there would be resistance and I think you know everybody was kind of aware that the time had come for some pretty heavy duty seeming scenes and they just were would rather sleep and not have it in direct contact. And that's what happens with dreams. The things that you're too afraid to face during the daytime dreams sometimes you face face them at night in nightmares and night terrors you know when you give yourself permission to dream them up in that form and face them in that way. I think that's another thing I really like about this book is that it's in bite-sized pieces. I feel it's like a prayer meditation book. You come to a piece and you have the Bible quote that is the is it has an equivalent or is further expanded upon with the course quote. And that's it in your mind everything the spirit is speaking to you for the rest of it. What you know what you previously thought of that quote what you previously understood from even that sentiment and how it applies to you instantly. There's a meditation that's occurring and really it's not about reading a linear book at all but it's about like dropping into an experience. And in this bite-sized way that you could randomly open it and see what the spirit is you know calling you deeper into because each one is like a very deep portal call because it's so clear. It's unequivocal it's so clear. Yeah it's what Sarah is describing you know it's like when this book is published this month the mystical teachings of Jesus it would be something you could like curl up with like a companion book. It's much smaller than the course but it takes you right in with the questions and then takes you right in with the Gospels and different parts of the Bible actually as well and then right into the course and right into that portal of deep experience. So you may be thinking well I've got these jobs and I've got my career and I've got my life and this and this. This is the kind of book you want to curl up with to go away go camping go off to a motel go off somewhere where you don't have any distractions turn your cell phone off and give yourself this intimacy with with the presence and just dive into it. You won't come back the same. You won't come back to face the world in the same state of mind or as the same person you'll it'll be such a turn and as I always tell people with this with all of this your life will never be the same. None of us have a clue how we're going to be used. None of us even saw ourselves doing some of the things we're doing you know I certainly didn't see any of this or forecast any of it but it's really glorious. And I think it takes time to almost like a time out from the distractions and struggles of the world into this nurturing deep penetrating experience that that changes your mind forever. And we had a question yesterday about coming into you know purpose and whether purpose came after you get things fixed and tidy up or it came before. And as I was listening to it I mean I really felt that feeling of purposes like the tractor beam so stepping into purpose is being in the miracle for all of the answers and how everything then unravels and unfolds. So this is first you step into this first because the you know the joy and the exuberance that you feel because you already have an attraction to it. You just you step into where the attraction is whether it's this book or this YouTube or this show and you just step into that and let that take you into the experience. And then from that space everything else becomes obvious of what's helpful and what falls away and all you do is allow your hands to be soft and not be trying to grab things back. My experience is that naturally starts rolling, literally rolling from there and but you know there's nothing to be afraid of. From my experiences so far the fear was just a clench thought that there would be something and I can guarantee from my experience so far there was nothing I didn't want coming for me at all actually. It's like the key is your willingness if you've just got that key in your hand you know you can literally reach around and open the gate and then your willingness like takes you on this ride on this inward journey. It's not so much things or stuff or people places things even books are just reflections of this little key of willingness but if you've got it then use it. And then when you use it it's like whoa what what have I been missing what what am I beholding you know it's just spectacular it's like take me away. You just feel like you're lifted up and you just want to give way to the light and go all the way with it. Quite miraculous. Yeah. Would you like to open up for questions or have a song? Maybe we could just see if anybody has anything on your heart or anything that you'd like to share or to ask see if anybody feels that. Okay Dave. Eric's getting things situated here. Can you pause one second we're just getting your mic turned up. Okay. Is that it now? Yes. Okay. Yeah the experience that you're sharing a lot of the realizations that you had are ones that I've had. The resurrection was far far earlier than all of the way it was portrayed in the life of stuff. I'm trying to things are shaping up where I can come out and do an emotional retreat with you. And things are starting to do an awful way. I thought it wasn't possible and things are starting to happen. You know before I just keep doing what's in front of me to do it's just starting to happen. Yeah. Beautiful. Yeah. It's opening up. Your willingness is helping ignite the whole thing. So I'll get back in contact with Susan about any kind of upcoming retreats or stays I mean. See how it unfolds. These have been a lifeline for me. It's been wonderful joining with you here. I was getting into a little made up your thoughts before this. I stopped and prayed and meditated and sent out with you. And I just want to express my gratitude again. I'm so grateful. Thank you, Dave. It does feel like a lifeline. Yeah. Yeah. It's very much like a lifeline. We had a friend earlier who was saying that he felt like something was bubbling in his heart. I'm not sure if he's still with us or feeling to share right now, but just if somebody has anything that's really sparkling on their hearts, they're just so welcome just to share it here. Just knowing it serves for all. Candy raised your hand. Okay. Hi Candy. Oh, hi. Good morning everybody. Good morning. My lesson today from the workbook is I give the miracles I have received. And who can understand it, but I'm not sure. So I'm wondering if David, maybe you could say something about that. I think that's awesome. Oh, I'm sorry. Jesus calling. Oh, I'm very sorry. It's okay, it's okay. We can pause. We can pause, yeah. We'll let her go, Candy go back. It's probably Jesus on the other end anyway. That's it. So he'll come back. Oh. But yeah, it's beautiful. It's very spontaneous, but I think it starts with that, just the willingness to be used. Just the prayer of the heart, you know, use me, guide me. That's kind of feeling is where it all starts. And then, yeah, it can be very, very spontaneous. I know even for me this, I'm just in a very spontaneous year. And I was just sharing with Sarah that there's a couple of gatherings. It looked like they're coming around the bend here in Australia. Down there, Melbourne and over up near Sydney. And then, yeah, there's so many things that just open and open up, but not that we have to know them in advance. And I think that's the part about, I give the miracles I have received that it does remind me that we have to be receivers first, because the miracles are always for us. They're for our mind. They're not for anybody else. It just seems like we extend them to other people and that other people are involved. But the messenger always receives the message first for himself and then gives it and extends it. And that gets away from looking for outcomes, too, because when you allow yourself to be used in that way, you feel connected and joyful, and your eyes aren't looking around to see how did it go or... How did it go down? How did it go down? There's not even a thought about that. You're swept away in the joy. So that's beautiful. Yeah, if you have friends that are in Melbourne, we've just gotten word that on the 20th of March that you'll be in Melbourne. And then in Sydney, it's on the 26th. So more dates unfolding there, but it's fun just watching things just come towards us. And the freedom retreat as well, actually, in June. And that sounds like a lot of fun up in the Rockies in Estes Park there. It's from the 16th to the 19th. In the Melbourne area, it's actually Mornington Peninsula, which is a bit of a drive south. It's quite a drive, but that's the area. That's the airport I'm coming into. You fly right into the gallery. And then I go down to Mornington. Actually, it'll be a transport afterwards. After many flights from Guadalajara to Los Angeles to... So, yeah, I might even see some of you in LA. There's a 14-hour layover there and have some miracles. And then get back on the plane, go all the way to Sydney, then rest a few hours before then down to Melbourne and then rest up and start the tour down there. Yeah, I mean, we've had some friends come to stay with us now who seem to have actually come off this island virtual screen. So, literally, the people who are with us now have actually previously seemed to be this side of the seeming mirage. And what's really interesting is they were like, oh, you really don't prepare these shows, do you? Like, I'm sitting here and they're like, do you think David's coming? And we're like, we don't know. We're just going to be here. And that's what you're talking about. You're just available to be in that miracle because you're in it first yourself. You received that call and answered it all in one moment. Yeah, I mean, even to try to describe it, it's more like you get into this involuntary flow and it's like your life, as you know, it isn't the same. It's got more of a surreal feeling and it's more like the body is like a puppet. But things just seem to happen and you're aware that it's all perfect. But it's not a lot of efforting. There's just no efforting with it. It's because all we are doing is really showing up with willingness to the Spirit to do it through us. And there's even a course quote that says, it cannot be difficult to do the task that Christ appointed you to do for it is he who does it. So that's a beautiful line of being done through. And again, it's something that's, until you experience it, then it sounds a little bit like, I don't know, like you're taken over or something, but in a good way. This isn't the invasion of the body snatchers or some of those movies that we have in the past. This is really a good thing. In fact, when I even watched those movies, now people will have me watch different versions of invasions of the body snatchers. And I think it's almost like a comedy because the ego is afraid of being taken over. So I'm cheering on the invisible force that's taking over the bodies. And then when the bodies, the crime goes down, all kinds of things go down, and some of the people are freaking like, there's this invisible force that's calm and serene, that's taking over, and the whole society's being transformed. And I'm thinking, this is a transformational movie. This belongs in my movie watchers guide. Sometimes people have watched the movie with it. They're horrified watching the same thing, but they're watching it from an upside-down perception. And I'm just loving it and thinking, I've got to rename the movie or something because to me this is like the coming of Christ and they're calling it the invasion of the body snatchers. So those are the two perspectives. Yeah, I think the one with Sir Charonin in it, I can't recall the name of it right now, where that's what seems to happen with her and their eyes all go blue, is really good because it's like, am I supposed to fight this or not? And here I am. I've got this wonderful Irish girl in the role. Am I supposed to have an opinion on this? Is there any way in which I'm supposed to fight this? Am I supposed to maintain something? Who am I? What am I trying to maintain here? And for myself right now, this is what I joined with Lisa, and then Davis is like, is that another bit that you let go? Is there anything I'm supposed to maintain or hold? And she goes, no, it's all Sarah. You can just let it all go. It's just Sarah. And I'm like, okay. Well, I mean, taking over by joy is the invitation. Yeah, yeah. The original invasion of the body snatchers kind of had this thing that would kind of move under the dirt or something which looked, for most people it was a little creepy, when I think of it just called invasion or something. They left the body snatcher part out of it. But that was a completely invisible force. And everybody became so serene and peaceful after they weren't dramatic. They weren't screaming, shouting, crime, fighting and everything. So to me that was the one where I just, I had to pause the movie a few times and people were going, oh my God, like are you, where are you taking this with this stuff? But I think that's what happens with the mind training too. We talk a lot about mind training and that you can't just click your fingers or click your heels. If you had the power of prayer, really if you really gave it all you've got and held nothing back with the power of prayer, you could click your fingers or click your heels. But for most people, most people are given a slowly evolving curriculum where you just have to keep at it and keep faithful and keep practicing and do the mind watching and do the mind training. So that's why we have all these great tools for it. And then occasionally you meet someone who's just there and then whoa, it's kind of almost like a transmission or something very direct like that movie of meeting Jesus for this Roman man. That was very transformative. Yeah, when I was on that tour, when I was in England and I had come with you and you had been talking at the conference in London, which was beautiful, what you shared there. I happened to go down and visit friends then that were a Bridget and I was down staying at a very well-renowned place. It's in Glastonbury. And I was in Glastonbury and it was like a Wednesday afternoon in Glastonbury. It wasn't very spiritual or anything and I was just walking around just open, really. And I literally, there was this man standing all dressed in white with a turban and he was at least 100 yards away and I just literally got, I just locked eyes with him even at that huge distance and I had this amazing experience of just, I was just really open and I couldn't quantify what it was except for any reason I was in Glastonbury for the afternoon. The whole thing and it was so amazing just that and I feel it's just this, there's like some kind of a safety that comes in the mind and there's a receptivity and it's not a specialness with anything but if you're looking and open then everything can be truly helpful. I found this book truly helpful. I found all of my joinings with you and all of your YouTube's truly helpful and if you come with that presence and that openness and that I don't know I haven't got the right word like a sanctity or a kind of a reverence if you come with that reverence then your whole world can shift into this more like fairy-tile style you're talking about but there's a grace within it and a dignity that I never had as a personal self in the world. There's a dignity, there's something that's been carried and is carrying my experience of myself that is beyond me. Yeah, yeah. I know Sarah's had some just amazing mystical experiences and I do remember that joining we were over there too because I think at one point too we were to meet, was it Manchester or some part of England and you just kind of were able to find a ride and get there and just kind of wait outside the doors and then the doors opened and Ian and his assistants said oh come on in and it reminds me a lot of that woman Susie who was over with me in China she was a very simple woman I just had a Skype type chat with her this morning actually in China but she had no money for any of the gatherings but she would just pray and you know here go, just go and stand there and so she would just stand outside of the gathering and someone would just inevitably walk up oh can I help you oh do you need money to go in here take this you know it's seven out of seven times she came to seven of my gatherings she didn't have the resources to get in for what the organizer had put a price or whatever and seven out of seven times she came in but that's what we're talking about if you're going to give your life your soul your heart to spirit to use everything is going to click in I mean absolutely everything without exception and that just goes against all of our past learning all of our programming all of our conditioning that goes oh come on this is not a fairy tale but it does seem like an inspired not a grim fairy tale but an actual inspired fairy tale when we just go okay I'm giving it over and it actually works and there's an experience of instant receiving of everything in that giving over of what looked like my so-called life like there was this instant receiving of yeah like instantaneous it's not even like it has to seem to play out over time there's in that handing over there's everything is received in that moment too every every time there seems to be that opportunity to leap once more are you know if there's a thought that something's have back then that grace again just pours through so it becomes everything yeah yeah we're actually this week we're receiving a man from Portugal Rafael he he's contacted me he contacted me a number of times I put him in touch with Jenny Jenny had just completed this whole experience with a large group over many weeks at Diva the place had emptied out she was the last one there and Rafael said could I come and spend a little time with you so they had someone on one time and he recently contacted me because he's losing losing all of his five senses 23 years old went from mystical experiences into pain experiences mystical pain and it was just like please just need to know that love will not abandon me as he was getting quite extreme and here it is through miracles upon miracles of talking to Kirsten and then Suzanne and all these different ones involved he's I think if he can make it across on the plane we'll pick him up at the airport and this 23 year old who's losing all of his five senses Kirsten was working with him too about how oh that's just a sensitivity phase don't worry there's more miracles coming and you know it doesn't end in like mystical pain mystical pain you go more over into the beatific into the beautiful and so yeah we're welcoming him into the monastery so that's joyful for us he had nowhere else to go in the world and even his parents were just praying and praying and praying and praying like please God there's got to be something someone somewhere something you know and yeah and then the spirit works it out I was amazed he could string some words together because he was at times he can't string senses together he said there's time when I start to lose I can't listen to your speakers I can't watch your videos ah it's like I'm going into into the shutdown but yeah it's the devotion the torch of devotion I feel is hard underneath there yeah and then there's there's a stabilizing factors that comes when you have those around you who that's not dramatic to them yeah it's somehow instantly everything normalizes again there's a new sense of what normal is as in our natural to use and therefore then that you can be done through again so it's not about becoming incapacitated it because the spirit active through you so it's not whether the body is quiet or moving yeah it falls away yeah and that's I always found that very give me a great sense of security myself for just having those that would look at you and go uh-huh you know and it's okay and do you want toast so it's just you know here we go very simple yes yeah I'm wondering about candy is candy you still there we I didn't know Jesus talked to you and shared it all on the phone or whether I can be of service here thank you so much sorry about the interruption my question is around miracles my lesson for today is basically I give the miracles I have received and I guess my mind is having a bit of a hard time repping itself around the concept of a miracle it says here Christ vision is the miracle in which all miracles are born and then later on it says Christ beholds no sin in anyone and in his sight the sinless are as one Christ vision is the bridge between the worlds and in its power and you safely trust to carry you from this world into one made holy by forgiveness so while practicing this lesson I guess like always I'm wondering what it is that I have to do I can understand that Christ's vision is a miracle but how do I share that if I've received it why am I not aware that I have received it and how do I share that with others it seems like it's a task I'm being given and I don't know how to do it yeah I can certainly relate I know that I felt that way too at the beginning of working with the Course and that prayer at the beginning of the book it's on I think 24 on the first edition and 28 on the second third and fourth edition that I am here only to be truly helpful prayer it's funny I've used that prayer so much I used it when I was clueless I said I don't know how to share miracles I don't even know what this means I would read through 50 principles of miracles at the beginning and go wow that's amazing but I don't know if I can relate to that at the beginning I was a bit overwhelmed thinking a miracle worker no I've never prepared for such a thing my parents never they were Christians but they never said over dinner you know you'll go through confirmation in Sunday school and this and this and you'll be a good miracle worker David it was like no get out and get a job and earn some money you know that was just more like a ritual church was more like a ritual so it's funny because I was having I mentioned having lunch with Judy scutch and her husband and some others and and she was saying to me that that prayer which was my life saver it got me going what you're asking that really got me going she said that was not originally in the course at all and I said what so here I go I guess the whole book one of the most important prayers and she says no that wasn't part of the course so what was it and it was Bill Fedford was going to speak at a conference and I don't know if you know the story of Bill he's one of the first two students on the course but he helped Sue Helen Schuchman but he was a Jesus called him a professor afraid of professing because here he was he put himself as the head of the department at this Columbia Presbyterian Medical Center but he hated to teach in the classroom he put himself in administrative positions because he was so afraid of speaking and here he had a speaking engagement and he was so nervous about going in front of a crowd and speaking because one of the things he hated to do and so through Helen Jesus gave him that prayer I am here only to be truly helpful I am here to represent him who sent me and so now all these years later I've been with the course for 30 years and now I find out that even part of the book it got inserted in there from Bill again though it was a practical thing he was just like you he didn't know what to do and so that was given as a very practical way to set his mind in alignment to just show up with whatever even the day as you wake up in the day and I found myself praying that and memorizing that and having that roll through my mind and it was so helpful so practical and then another thing Jesus used puns and everything with Bill because he liked to play on words and whatever but at one point Bill wanted something that was even shorter than that he wanted something that was extremely short really effective almost like a finger on your hand it's so close and so short like your baby finger and so that whole prayer of I'm here to only be truly helpful which is quite a number of senses got shortened down to Jesus said here Helen give this to Bill and this was the entire prayer and you can use this one too because I love it and the whole prayer is here I am Lord that's it and so that is so simple my gosh I can remember that here I am Lord what it is is it's orienting your mind to be useful and to be shown the power that's within you to be shown the miracles that can come through you and be performed through you just from orienting your mind and taking it away from fear because miracles can never be performed in the spirit of doubt or fear but that here here I am Lord that was it's got to be the most potent short prayer in history and it's so effective so I think that's what I would do pick something that really resonates with you and you can really embrace and then just watch what happens from there it just grows stronger and stronger so if I understand this correctly the miracle actually is that we're in a state of mind in which what we perceive is basically what Christ perceives the vision that Christ has so when we look at a situation or consider the situation we're in or we're seeing someone we're not seeing the negative stuff or the positive stuff we're just seeing truth the light basically that's what a miracle is yeah the miracle is more like a means and Christ's vision or revelation or the great rays whatever you want to call it those are all synonyms for the same thing the light is non perceptual so it's almost like if you took all the shadows away like if you were in a movie theater and you had this powerful light in a projector and it was projecting the shadows that we see as like everyday life on the screen it's that light that's in the projector that's the Christ vision and so as we're willing to move in that direction miracles kind of cleanse our mind they kind of cleanse the film they wash away the shadows and some of us have actually back in the old days of those old movie theaters where you're in there and sometimes the film burns or snaps sometimes it would actually snap or burn and then the whole screen would go to light that's like piercing into what we could call Christ vision so that's underneath it all that's what inspires the miracles is the Christ vision and then miracles are quite interpersonal they're still perceptual so you know there's so many miracles that will come into your life some people some of you know Wayne Dyer and Deepak got into Sai Baba there for a while and Sai Baba would always manifest jewelry rings people, followers I had a friend of mine who was in a library one time in Indiana and she was just praying and sitting there and reading the Sai Baba book so filled up with love reading about it and she got up to get a sandwich and she came back and then there was a bracelet, a beautiful bracelet that had manifested right on the book Sai Baba did a bracelet for right there she's like who did that and you know she's looking around for somebody who's pulling her leg or somebody that she knew she scoured the whole place, bookstore or library wherever she was and she was telling me that but it's not necessarily that but that's just like a symbol of something that's an out of pattern way of looking at the world where you have this lightness in your heart and you don't take anything seriously in the world you're in such lightness and that perception will lead you back to Christ's vision which is so don't you know try to say why didn't the world disappear this morning or you know why why is there still a curtain and still a rug and a carpet you know it's like don't try to push the Christ's vision just know that you'll be used and it'll cleanse your perception and take you towards that vision wonderful thank you so much you're welcome Candy thank you Tamara wrote on the chat I don't know if you saw it but she wanted to ask a question as well thank you thank you, thank you Candy Eric's finding you tomorrow he's activating your microphone there you go hi it's so funny because right now the question I have I'm doing it at the same time I want to go do we have time but anyway this program is so delicious so I know one of the things that you all practice in Camus is the no people pleasing thing and I'm really realizing as this program is unfolding because I'm actually at work right now and the client is asleep and what I want is to be truly helpful what I want is to lead a 100% spirit-directed life and this people pleasing thing you know there's I'm kind of just the tool in this whole system of the work I do I'm a sober companion and so there's this whole team of people that has their agenda things they want me to be accomplishing throughout the day with the client and it's really bumming my gig man I just want to be in that space of love and following what the next prompt is and finding that easier and easier in my life everything's coming together I'm about to come to Camus and everything's been unfolding so beautifully but it just seems like there's a level of trust that is required when it comes to like the secular world of just going I'm just going to keep trusting spirit as the ultimate boss like the ultimate boss rather than trying to people please in all these there's just so many seems like there's so many agendas and yeah could you just I don't know if I really form that into a real question but anything here we appreciate it yeah I think because we're so focused on purpose and because that mind training has been such a central point it's been the focal point of everything that it does you start to see perception merging and blending together and what seemed to be all these different factions and people to please and agendas it's with this single let be single when your desire is single when your focus is single when you have one intent and it's become so strong what you will becomes the will of God then that will unify perception and that's where the peace comes in so yeah I know it's been a big step for you it was a big step coming here when you were here before and I'm sure you have had all kinds of experiences and you might chuck this up to okay here's some more contrast experiences but for me when I would have those contrast experiences I would want to more even more than ever get aligned with the my instructor within my the boss the one who's in charge of the plan of a tournament you know like I my heart would be burning for that because I would just be like like Bill Thetford there has to be a better way than trying to do all these different perceptions and encounters to not upset anybody to try to smooth things over and it gets fatiguing it's just extremely fatiguing and yet for me there was a sharp contrast where you know I just finally said okay here I am Lord there's that prayer I've heard of your coming I just got to see you when I was in Southern California I think I heard maybe yesterday Michael at the monastery is so looking forward to you coming I feel like when you come and join in the purpose there it's like it really directs the mind it like channels the mind in a very helpful direction and just you have such an appreciation for those heart to heart contacts you know where words are even purposeful hugs are purposeful gazing in someone's eyes is extremely purposeful and I think you'll just be naturally drawn in to what is very intuitive for you what feels very very natural almost like letting your heart free letting it soar a bit and fly and saying oh yeah feels really good and then you have even more strength you know you're like oh yeah I knew this always I knew this and here I come I'm just I'm coming into it it just it strengthens through supportive nurturing relationships too you know that's what relationships are for we're here to heal and bless we're here to nurture we're not here to get something from each other you know that's the ego with all this being motive and that's part of an old conditioning of being human getters instead of human beings what did you get today how much did you earn did you earn your worth and you know all this trying to prove worthiness and it's crazy it's an absolute insane belief system and yet when we when we slide into what feels more natural to us it's like we can breathe again we can breathe with a sigh we can breathe easy instead of a hard breath of trying to strive and struggle so yeah I think I think you're just coming just keep keep your faith and keep coming in the direction you're coming in and everything will open up you know the waters will part whatever obstacles are in the way will start to clear away as you give yourself over to this and that's just the way that that the spirit works you know and it's very loving it's very loving yes it is it's been amazing I just like watching all these little things I thought were insurmountable be just handled it's just amazing my heart is just soaring right now it feels so free yeah and yet still doubts and you know they're still once in a while daggers get thrown like what are you thinking well Sarah was talking about the ones that go from the virtual and then they come out come out through the screen you're another one there's a screen here yeah oh look it's a Tamara shaped hug I just feel all this gratitude because you're in service in this moment like we're all in service in this moment and all I kept hearing was give it away give it all away give all of your love away give all of the grace give all of the appreciation that you're sharing about us this experience that seems to be in the future coming now in this moment you're in your bedroom at the monastery here your mighty companion is in the next room sleeping give it all away give it all away it's just now so yeah yeah beautiful thank you thank you another beautiful episode it sure is and we are off now down to the printers Alexander's to go look at the proof of our new book the mystical teachings of Jesus so that's very exciting and again just deep deep gratitude for everyone who's joined us on periscope and everyone who's joined us on zoom and if you would like to again go to livingmiracles.org forward slash l m hyphen virtual and that's that's where you'll find all these beautiful shows and to my guest David Hofmeister thank you very much from the bottom of my heart thank you thank you all for coming big hug big kiss