 Hello people today. I'm going to talk about working for a client when not to work for a client I've already I should When it's unethical to work for a client. I don't know Sorry, I'm thinking about what to put as a title because I know I put something like when not to work for a client before But anyway, what is unethical to work for a client? I want to talk about Certain issues that'll that might come up while you're working in fact probably some variation of these issues will come up And things to keep in mind about working for a client and when it might be very unethical I mean, obviously if they're breaking the law or asking you to break the law don't work for them I think I should put that out there. That's unethical immoral and illegal, but There there are other circumstances where things can pop up that maybe you're wondering what to do So I want to help out with that which you know are kind of more likely and the first one So here's the situation that might happen Maybe you work or you know, you're in contact with a translation agency a translation agency context You say hey, could you translate this document? Can you give me a quote and timeframe for you know, whatever document? and you see that the document is You know you translate whatever language it might be let's say Hungarian and you notice that it's a construction company from your same town in Hungary and you're like you start thinking you're like Wait a minute. I could do this for this translation agency based out of London for this company right there Or I could contact them say hey, I'm a translator. I'm right down the road from you guys Do you want me to do your translation for you and? You might be you know because everyone has their own language and specialty so chances are they you know feel at some point They're like hey, I could contact them directly probably get paid more. Why don't I try that? This is a bad idea a very bad idea and Hopefully, you know, even if you think about it, you'll realize that you shouldn't do it But let me go through it just in case and explain why it's a bad idea And then I'll talk about some of the variations that can happen. First of all, it's a very bad idea Here's what's gonna happen 90% of the time 90% of the time that company there already has a relationship with the agency or sign a contract or you know Something there often, you know, they've been in contact with each other for a while They know each other they trust each other 90% of the time they'll won't reply to you or else Let's say you're like, okay We'll see something like that and then they'll contact that agency and be like hey, we received this email Any idea is this, you know one of your people or you know what like, you know What's happening and they'll do this a because you know, they probably have a contract with that agency So they don't want random people finding out that You know that they need certain documents translated You know, they don't want it out there in the open. So if they sign a contract with an agency The agency signed a contract with you trust me somewhere in that contract It says that you can't go talking around with other people even if they didn't make you sign a contract that company is gonna be mad that their you know information is flying around and Yeah, they're not gonna be happy about that. So it'll backfire. Let me just put it this way. It'll backfire More than 90% of 99% of the time it's just gonna backfire, you know, they already have a relationship with that agency They're not going to You know want to breach that relationship just because of one person Also, they don't want their confidential possibly documents all over the place and random people contact them say hey I got your confidential document You want me to translate it because that could be very dangerous for them and they want it to be all contained And so they're gonna be mad for many reasons and either way, they're not gonna hire you That company by the way the translation company it will automatically get you out blacklist you you'll probably in fact They they might even threaten you with legal, you know Issues they probably won't pursue it because it won't be worth it for them But they'll definitely, you know have their lawyers write up something for you and you know chances are you could get blacklisted from all the You know the translation websites, you know prose translators cafe or stuff like that. Sorry. I heard something But anyway, the it's I hope no one's coming to rob my place. No, okay, so but Where was I right? So either way, it's gonna be very bad and you don't want to risk it and So it's always a big no-no do not even if it says right there, you know, whatever construction company and you're like Hey, I know them and you know, I know what company that is don't contact them directly just Deal directly with a translation agency like you would with anything and then that's it Use your knowledge of that area for the translation itself and do a good job Maybe in the future, you know at some point in time when you feel ready and and all that that can be one of the companies You contact but you know, you can contact all the local companies to try to see if you can establish a relationship with them directly By the way, you know, they they probably translate in a couple different languages So they much rather deal with the translation agency than you even if you charge a bit less for your specific translation They don't have time to find people in 10 different languages. They're gonna deal with that agency and that's it So, yeah, it's really not worth it. And here's what here's another scenario 99% of the time That's what's gonna happen. But 1% of the time they might actually Email you and say, okay. Yeah, you do the translation for cheaper. That's better First of all that agency is gonna find out like I said, they have a contract They have a relationship if there's been a breach or if you know, the client all of a sudden says no We found someone else to do it or something like that. They're gonna get suspicious They'll probably figure it out. Like I said, someone at that agency has been talking to someone at that company for years now And yeah, they'll figure it out and or they'll know because they only contacted two different translators to work on this You're one of them and you know, they'll figure out that it was you So it'll still backfire. Even if you get that one job, that's it You won't get any repeat business. Also from that company, you probably won't get any repeat business because you know, when they think about it They'll realize hey, that was pretty backhanded what that guy did. So, you know, they'll think you're a pretty you know, not honest guy or girl or gal and And you'll at some point realize well that company is also not too honest because even if They have a relationship with me or even if they make me sign a contract They probably made that other agency sign a contract and you know, that didn't help the relationship So anyway, it's not a good way to establish anything long-term and if you want to make money in this business It has to be long-term. You need to establish a relationship. I've said this before you have to do it that way So absolutely if this comes across the radar and you think oh, hey, what about what if I do this? What if I do that? Don't do it. That's it Now I want to talk about another situation that might happen Then in fact did happen to me what might happen is that this same agency context you say, hey we need this translated Hungarian English or whatever and Can you help us out and you're and you're like, okay, that sounds good And then you get another email from that company directly to you saying hey Well, we realize you're a translator in our area and we were wondering if you could translate our documents for me this happened to me and So I'll tell you what I did and then and then you can make your own judgment because actually since then I've been wondering if I did the right thing or not I mean I stand by what I did but anyway, we'll see so The the agency contacted me asked me to translate and then you know a bit later like an hour or two later I got an email from that end client for the exact same document to be translated What I ended up doing was I ended up because I had a relationship with that agency I've been working with them for a while and so I emailed them and I was just transparent. I was like I got an email from the end client to work on this And they because I had a set rate with the agency and the client Said they will pay me more than my rate. I don't know what the agency charged them. I don't care That wasn't part of you know, whatever I told everything to the client and and the client or to Sorry to the agency I told everything and the agency were cool about it You know, there's like well, it's your prerogative You want to work for them? You can or not I ended up not working for them because again, you know It just seemed very backhanded and you know kind of bad and all that I'm still working with the agency to this day and we have a great issue. We ended up not doing any translations for that company I think that agency dropped that company as well, but Yeah, and you know, I just I was like if I'm gonna make a mistake Let's make it on the side of transparency. So at least I can sleep soundly at night It won't come back to bite me in the ass like in years to come or something like that and yeah So that's what I did And you know, so I mean I stand by what I did. I'm sort of wondering If it happened again, if I would do the same thing like part of me thinks I just don't even want to you know I'll just tell both parties. Sorry. I'm not available and then not deal with it at all not Entering to part of this whole thing, but I don't know So, I mean if this has happened to you and if you have any advice feel, please let me know I'd be really interested to hear but you know, I just think in any case Obviously, you shouldn't pursue and try to an end client if you already have been the agency But even if the end client contacts you if you already have a relationship with that agency It seems really backhanded to undermine them and go directly to you know, to that end client. So Anyway, that's what I did. I Would suggest that you if you're gonna make a mistake once again make a mistake on the side of transparency Because in the long term, it's always better to do that and it's just it's better for business, too Let's face it in the long term Because you want to establish these relationships, which then you can build your business on rather than trying to make an extra cent here And an extra little bit there, but then be blacklisted and not have repeat business at all So, yeah, hopefully you found that helpful Please like this video if you do because it always helps and don't forget to subscribe if you haven't down at the subscription button somewhere down there and And yeah, I'll see you in the next video. Thanks. Bye