 We are here at Uwupak for the Nairobi Festival, feeling the vibe of the city. We have the one and only verified Kul Kid. Mambubi. Niko salama sana. Kwa jini? Siti kofiti? Yes. Kwa jini? Kwa jini? Kwa jini? Kwa jini? Kwa jini? Kwa jini? Kwa jini? Kwa jini? Kwa jini? Kwa jini? Kwa jini? Kwa jini? Kwa jini? M yoga. And not only that, Niko kalau professionally influenced Nairobi. And of course, nidisentar ina kuni kama mwezi wakasi ka Под estudia Operations for Cauces. K slave Chet這樣?' Na nishukur mzowinginime weza kwa Bata. Ile nimefa vacunia, 하는 highlighting her distribution andourcing within Uwupak's Saint Jandra. Na nishukuru mzowinginime weza Kwa Bata. Ile nemefanya 123iku saoua sana, na taradia kwanguiku saoua regarde. Kwa nishukuru mzaying injuli. kwenye birthday party iya the one and only Hamisa Mubeto. Chkona palivu kwenye mitanda wu katanda wu meza kulipu ani 10,000 dollars? Yes. Hamisa in the first place, Hamisa ni Bechitangu, laika sister kwangu. And in one way or the other, nile tu ili kwa, ya niali kwa nataka ni fanya performance, insa jia hiwa nani kipu fanya ono joa e. So aka ni piga dayile ya ni takuli pa 10,000 dollars yuki piga performance. Nika weza kufanya hiwa, aiko ni kitu nilu kwa official, mati kwa daya na kani li pa ikotusa. That's more than a million Kenyan shili. It's 1.5 actually, more than 1.5 ya. 1.5? Yes. Wengi na aka seima kipdogo palivu, for how long did you perform? Less than all my four songs, less than 20 minutes. 20 minutes? Yes. 1.5 million Kenyan shili? Yes. Kuna tolko na seima hiwa hella jamani uongo, wengi na aka seima kwa mba, labdo me li pa 1.5 million Tanzani and shili. Tu bado kila mtu aka na mawani, na jia hiwa na jia kila mtu aka na opinioni ake, munya kusimokuli, munya li li pa na munya li li pa. So hii li kwa, hii li kwa iawa tuawili na wala wanya wali sushudi aio, but I can't say anything much, it's all about, sometimes it's good. Uleto hiu engagement munya li seima hii wopian saawa, kwa zia kuna prufi aio. Iwi na manakomba labda rate card iya sami boi me, zaku pandaju? Sii jia seima hii me pandaju, iko tu saawa, but at the end of the day, tunahenda tuki elevate. Wei mwa li ombol kwa na seima labda ni wongo, wuna mbienini? Wataraji e mengi, maybe kuna usyuda ya manaita kuja, na hii kisha kuja, tuawambia. Iwi li 1.5 ni fully paid, fully paid. Yes, it was in dollars actually. Siya li poa iko kwa kwenya kwuntia sami boi? Siya wukula tu memali zah. Aha, kuna tu mei helangapi kwa siku kwa memali zah, it's four days ago. Siya kwa muna li po $10,000, na hii usiku hiu pia kuna bilia, $5,000 already so. So how much, roughly how much do you spend in a day? No, on that specific day li kwa bati day ya kwa, so li hasima piya tunke spend ya. Ya, roughly. Mi neza kumali zah siku bilak tu miya pesa, mi sii bati spenda. Anybody who has money is selfish or own money. You don't spend a lot of money? I don't spend a lot of money, I try to, I work out on how I use my money and ya, in a very corrective way. And of course, from the back day, kanda na watu kuzungumziya zile hela, kuna hengi na ulikona uli zalapda sami boy, what is this that you have for Tanzanian girls? Tanzanian girls? Zuchu, kina go hamisa? Mambo ya God ayu. Onaji wa nile veniwa wana tubeba, ama kuchukulia, lemi birealistik, nimi interactu na osyana wei tuwa Kenya na ulo wa tizedia, wei da osyana ni ma socialite wama fika, wama walo eniwa kuna hile, ya ni, alafupia, mimini hile wana takanku sema, akunanga mutwa kulimited, kwen daku wongelesha mistyana weote, wokenya weotu na sema gao, sisemi ya tiawa mistyana, awana kiburya manini, nile tu elevate yourself, kila mutwa jiamini, kwa seza, imagine kama, akuna mutu mungina nandaku wongelesha, sipia mimimi wa tia ni wongelesha, you can talk to them, and they are very friendly by the way. Wongelesha tengeneza usiyana, na si kila mistyana unongelesha ikueni ma pens, ya try to make more business connection, kila mistyana, kukula kila miwa wana pato hawa tia. Weote na kwangatu business, with Zuchu, with Hamisa, it's purely business. No, no, no, it's mixed up. Now, mixed up na? How's it? As in, it's mixed up friendship, friendship and business. We're guarding your music, losta kituongile mama wana trading, we just want to talk about your music, right? So far, as a villain, nima wana ofanyangi collaborations mingi. The reason why siyati zifanyangi, nili nili kuna testu, what I can be able to do best. You know, kila musician ya kikuja kwa kwa industry, staki ikueni kama ana beba. Kwa music, but ala wewende kwa eleveti wana mutu mungina, useme o na nindia li kupati ya collabu kashain, auna talent. Wajani jitu me, piya niku kwa elema, inetua experimenting, you know, trying to test the waters, to learn on vocals, to learn everything, piya kujia what people want and get opinion from other, so many people. Ya, so, niki, niki, next year expect more. Yes. So, ukisema we expect more, do we expect also, collabu zama itz? Yes. No, no, no. Now, next year tunafanya collabu zia, have a collabu itz, Lil Minor, Jamio and some more artists coming up. Ya. Okay. So, still regarding your music, sijona mainstream iki kuchezasana, just be honest, right? Aha. Sijona mainstream kuchezasana, but on a social medium itz kia. So, siju ii unate kia kwa iu onganu. So, when it comes to mainstream, kuna, kuna part of us na feel like we need the online opinion, because najiwa mainstream utanskia, lakini wezi sama opinionia kwa, watu wei onia. Kwa mainstream niko, as much as sijapu shit to the limit, I still, I'm still outside there, niko Spotify, niko Apple music, niko, nacheswa radio, Sound City. We have all those and it's good that at some point, tungojet, kwa patient, So maybe so far, nini ni amba umedjifunza kwenye music industry, sabu me sema you are experimenting things. So far nini ni amba umedjifunza sana, sana about the Kenyan music. Music, as I thought, mi am a songwriter, but music is one of the most expensive asset that you can buy, because music as most people think kuna nge studio naimba, it's a whole lot of work. As Moans production, when the studio, tafta, producer, video na yoku shoot, ababu yo, yo sikila kitu, lasmo, upush. So far so good, mi am saying, nini kuna audience, but kama see yo, music so expensive. Nini, kuna wasa ni ukwenjifunza, naji ukwenba, kuna talent, but, I wanna your audience kwa skiza. So one thing is, music we push, nakufanizu vitu, your biggest challenge ever. And it's one of the most expensive asset ever. But so far, so good, I accept the challenge. Maybe sababu ni jambo malo meza kudifunza kachika sefariyoko kone mziki, did it ever maybe get to a point you felt like, where it's tough, let me just go back to songwriting and stop at that. Yes, maramingi sana, maramingi sana, nini mekwanizu yo thoughts like, oh it's not what I should do, but then, I feel like it's something I should be doing because mi I believe in persistence, you know. So I'm going to push it a lot and I'm not going to quit like, nini meka sana, nini mekwanagab kubu asijatwa muziki, but nini mekwaniki study what people love to hear, your trend. So next year, ishala, tuzatwa muziki. Tukiyo ngele liya labda, the challenges in the music industry. Of course, most of the time, tunaskyanga wasani, oksema labda, they are looking for support amakushiku wa mkono wasani, ua kubua. I don't know whether it's something that you ever tried, maybe looking for someone big, umfanya kazi nae and you felt like that could be a stepping stone for you before. I can say, hiyon diyo, hiyon diyo mkosa hinyu wa twingi wana faji, especially if you're an artist, just do your thing man. Ipigitwa tana simu, shoot video, tokiyo kwenye because wana expect muzali mkubua kuji kutua, kama wana talent after 2 pesa to iti push because at the end of the day, mi so far so good music yangu nipi wali yangu. Akuna muzali, mi piga nae collabu. Ipigitwa tiki, na taka piya wana naji tuma. So any particular point yawai fi figure out na yandakwambia muzali nishi kemkona because I know these artists personally, individually as my friends. Na staki kuteki advantage just because na wajua ikueni kama nianze kwa sumu ata staki kua lipa kwa wajakunza niji skume before ni fiki yo pa tia kulipa muzali to fanyi collabu, fanyiizu vi to staki. Na taka wajua ni kuna yo wezu piya. Ya. Okay. So Sami boy, so far, muwaka in Asia, right? You have a round. Mese ma round four songs in yo metua. So coming next year, kawneza promise my fans album, an album. Before which day? Album, tu tawa album, which is an album having 12 songs, takwana album. An album. So kakunam sani ungependa unona nazima takwa featured kwe album. Mofansuako. Na anya zino ango chiyo msa nila zima takwa kwe album. Sez semani chya lazi ma but kwa kwa iliupendo amungu, kama taitikiya ntata kwa na msa ni kama kali graf. Tata kwa na msa ni kama o dile brown. Tata kwa na msa ni akina chiyo miwa, akina water, akina mfiuri. Tata kwa na wasani akina savara. Nakutoka inje nezata kufanya kazi na wasani wa inje kama emboso. Pia ni kia uko South Africa chiniki dogu ntata kwa na msa ni kama anko Alphos, you know. All right. Mabit kitaka kwenye mziki kiki dogu I'm taking you back a little bit mozimojulio pita kumeku anastu a lot of stories in the country about forex trading sorry and ime kua ime fanyika kwa mba forex traders in the country ume onekana kama skamas. You have done forex trading what will you talk about about it? Allegations they may be true they may be wrong you know as much as I know is um the forex industry alone is a like 99% of the online it's a scam you know akuna jawa tu danganyani you know me before atani kua awarded as a forex trader Pali Rwanda most people used to call me a scam but I can tell Kenyans ni kua vigilant these online things fanya investigations sizako and then always learned that ii ni vi tuza online whether it's adami mohe na trade baduna trade kua epsa iti enyasi jil tekin nizawa apia and always um always know that whatever you are going to put into yourself is a big risk what even if it's trading with me I'm not guaranteeing you to make profits and at the end of the day you may end up calling me a scam because you didn't make money but for the stories that I've been hearing taking rounds about people faking life doing all these stuffs ni stories tu wanyu muna diskiya pia minazi iskiya here tumaliza so iso story wanyu muna diskiya pia minazi iskiya evo and I would want everybody to do their own investigation when you coming forex is real by the way forex ikona pesa waluwatu wanyu wana piga stories it's a real thing akuna skamu apo forex is real but the people are showing you are they real people yunani ele apo jilise kutas kujiw kwa mbevenya na tangeneza milionin na ana yo milionin kachini learn to know do your intelligence with people take your time and of course asami boy last question before we let you go of course kwenye hi industry you have faced a lot of challenges to liyans na palia mo pota ni sema ile pesa wuku receive kwa maa ramojo meyambu akua mba yun living a fake life ya ni negativitima I miss ya yambiwa I miss ya yambiwa fake life kama kuna kuna mister na ufukazi na irobinimimi ya iyonani mugeni siya I don't think there is anybody niyami kama belianguwa kani yambia stories a kwishi fake life that's new because as much as wana ungelele a watu koi injaja hene niyame ungelele because wana joku e li na yadong fake it whatever i do i live i do that's me jai fake anything in my life that's why I call myself mister no fukazi fukazi na manisha fake and real na iyonani tiimi yangu dimikwana kutoka kitambu so in one way or the other I don't think there is no need for me to do that you know my life is pure ni kikula skumayangu nisa ni kikula nyama piya nisa mi ya just believe my life ya nime uleze iloswali sababu because I use it to I think I came across a certain blog na traiku kumbukajinu of those kumbuki na uleko na ni kuna simakomba now the followers you have on Instagram are not real venya na kumbe atu mutanda ikona mambo mingi siya ni follow tukwana sii mutu kikwana siya kujetu angale insights zangu because at the end of the day ya ya siya aware ke wana jua sii ni mene jua for so long ni mene kuru account kutoka wakati nili kwa gana 10k 20k 20k ni mefika so kutoka ni kiwana 50k ni mepanda pa uleko ule ni kujetu 200k 300k faza ni kona 1 million apokatikati ni kona 1 million around 70,000 60,000 1 million in 60,000 followers so badona enda 1.1 and it's very funny on how people think we have to be stay stagnant mi mi ni meka kwainasukiri asocial media for 7 years now na nila ata accountinuku ka enda palu angali nili fungwa 2015 so it's not something we expect that for haters to say that mi mi nasemanga kama unipendi ni follow how do you cope up with now as such kind of negativity people tell me I don't even read about it because when you ni ambi uendu mi sinanga kataimia wama haters na mi mi ni nakula vizuri na drive guide ni mumsuri nalala place ni mumsuri familiyayangu ni kula vizuri ma mango neshi vizuri this was ingini ni mafugazi too because of time angali zikamia mafansuangu ko alo iniwa na nipenda na shukuru alo na nipenda pia so let's spread love and stay positive tuwombe mungu hiposiku thank you so much we wish you the very best thank you thank you