 Felly, amser i chi i gael i gyd yn ymwneud efo'r iawn i'w gweithio'r ffwrdd yng ngyfyrdd. A ydych chi'n 16 mewn gweithio'r gweithio, Ronald Cooman'r 10 o'r ffwrdd yn ddod. Ond David Onsworth yn ystod yn ymddangos cyrtymu'r cyfrifol. I'm absolutely delighted that the gaffer has joined us, fresh from a very, very encouraging display against Chelsea and the Carabao Cup that ultimately ended in a narrow defeat, Dave, but the performance must have pleased you as much as it pleased the punters. Absolutely, the performance was fantastic. I'm not happy that we lost the game at all. I'd never be happy losing any game at any level, alone in our first team, so yeah, disappointed to lose the game but so many encouraging signs, positivity, so much to work with. And all credit to that is it goes to the players taking on board the things we worked on on the training ground and what we spoke about in a couple of the meetings. So they took to it straight away. I was delighted with that. I was delighted with the way they stuck to our game plan and it was a really encouraging start. Plenty of reasons to be cheerful, Graham. Yeah, it was. Listen, it's a difficult time, you know, but as Dave just said there on the training ground, you know, you'd be looking for a spark. You know, sometimes it happens, you know, when a new manager comes in, new ideas, the players look forward to it. I think certainly second half when you listen, we all knew going down to Chelsea was a tough, tough ask. I'm a tear of what team they put out, but I think going down, I think we saw more in the game than we've seen in a long time, you know, and that's no disrespect to the previous manager, but I just thought there was more of a more energy, more passion, more drive, you know, to score goals. More than a couple of chances. So I think there was a lot of positives, second half especially. You know, it's never nice losing goals, but I think the reaction from the players, second half especially when they had chance after chance, you know, I think that stands as well for the future. When did you get the call, Dave, from the chairman? Chairman just walked into my office just after lunch on, was it Monday? Was it Monday? It's been a long week. I don't even know what day it is. And I was sort of taking her back a little bit. I said, hello chairman, you okay? So we had the afternoon together, spoke about everything, Everton, as you would expect. And, you know, we sat with Robert as well and discussed what we were going to do and how I was going to do it. And we went from there. Obviously, it's never, it's never an easy time. Doesn't matter at what level, at what club. It's always difficult when somebody loses a job. You never want to see that because, you know, that the team has struggled for everybody who loves this club. You know, we all want to see us succeed and win games and win trophies and that's what we're all about. So a disappointing end to another manager's tenure. But, you know, I'm very proud to have been asked by the chairman and Farhad and the board to take the reins. So it's a very proud moment for me. How did the players respond to your first training session, for example? I thought they were brilliant. Steve Walsh and I spoke to them in the morning. Steve spoke to them first and then I wanted to speak to them on my own. So, you know, I wouldn't repeat what I said to them because that's between myself and the players. But we went on the pitch and they were superb. They were lively. They were bright. They took on board information quickly. We worked on a few things and they certainly responded to that. And, you know, thankfully, they took it into the game. And we were unfortunate because, second half, I thought we dominated the game and should have come away with a victory. One player who certainly responded was Benny Benengami. We'll speak to both of you about Benny Benengami shortly, but let's hear from the young man himself who thoroughly enjoyed his senior debut at Chelsea. I mean, I've got to thank Unzi. He's had the confidence in me since day one. It gives you that confidence when a manager really believes in you. So I'd like to thank him and John Ebone and all the staff. And what was going through your head when you were told any nerves? Yeah, definitely. I was nervous for Unzi before. He was like, you know what, you're ready. You've been at my 23s level long enough and you're ready. So that gives you confidence. I mean, I was nervous for the game. But when you get on that pitch, all the nerves just went away. Was there any major difference from playing under 23-foot water being out there one specific thing maybe that you thought, wow? To be experienced, I mean, sometimes I've probably taken too long on the ball. Sometimes I got caught on it and I thought, like, I should probably play the first time, which, you know, you always learn, don't you? So on the pitch, you know, I wasn't thinking, oh, that's fabulous, even though he's a brilliant player. I was just thinking, you know what, I'm playing here. That's how it's like, that's the confidence that I have and that's the confidence that Unzi gave me. Being a big week for the family as well, hasn't your brother made his debut for Wigan as well last night, didn't he? He made his debut last night, only 17. It's a great moment for our family and it's just mad where we've been. It's like to thank my dad for taking me training on my mum, you know, all the sports. My brother Charlie and my sister Karen, you know, honestly, it's great. I'm so proud. Sharpie, that young man can be extremely proud of himself. He can, Dan. You know, to be thrown in against Chelsea away from home, you know, wow, you know, I don't think he probably expected that to happen. But listen, in those circumstances, you can sink or swim, you know, and the boy certainly swam. You know, I thought he was outstanding. You know, listen, it's hard, but he was competitive, he'd expect. David has said to us before that, you know, he was one to watch, you know, having worked with him, lower down, you know, and he certainly came into that occasion, which, you know, listen, can go one way or the other, but he went, he rose to the challenge and said, right, okay, I'm having a bit of this, I like this. We all talk about the tackle, all the evertonians who went, we probably wake up this morning and say they made the top of the game, like, oh, we're unlucky, but I like a boy, Benny Beningo, I was exactly made and everything else. So right away, he's had a positive impact on not only the team, but the supporters as well. So he can be very proud of himself. You never had any doubts about the boy? No, no, none at all. Ability-wise is there, physicality is there, temperament's there. Which is key, isn't it, the temperament? Absolutely, age is but a number, doesn't matter what age you are. If you're ready, you're ready, and he's certainly ready, you just need an opportunity. Like, you know, like I did, like Graham did, and like we all do, we all need an opportunity. And, you know, like Graham just said, sometimes you sink, but more often than not, you swim. And these young players have never let us down, and from my experience, never will, because they're great lads with great temperaments who love the club and who will give you absolutely everything they've got. Okay, they might, you know, they might not influence the game as much as a senior player will do, but he did. And he was smashing them delight for him as well, he's a great kid. And to balance that, you need a bit of experience as well, and Dave brought back, your Kevin Morales, your Anna Lennon, your James McCarthy's, and they did well too. Yeah, you do it. You listen, for young players come into a team, you know, and it's a difficult time as well where they run the team they're on. You know, it's a difficult time to put youngsters in. You know, but I thought he did really well, but as you said, the older players as well. You know, they've got a point to prove. You know, some may have fallen out with the previous regime, you don't know, but they now got an opportunity. I'm sure David would have said, listen, clean slate here now. You start from now. You know, we've got a reaction there as well. Listen, we all know that they're quality players as well. Now it's up to them to force themselves into Dave's reckoning and try and get a start in place. But certainly you could see second half, you know, the reaction there, you know, you could see there was a reaction, as David said, his first training session. So you can sense that when you're a manager. You can see, OK, I'm sure we've got it going in the right way now. We've got the right reaction that they wanted, and they got that the second half. The second half, especially, I thought, as David said, you could have won the game. They had the opportunities. Young Lukman came on at the crossbar, had another opportunity. That's something we haven't seen for a long, long time. I think the disappointing thing for Evertonians were coming away from matches thinking, we're never going to score here, we're never going to win a game. But I thought the seeds were there last night. They said, OK, and that was in both a mix of youngsters and experienced players. Talk about Benny Benningamy not having any pre-match nerves. What about the gaffer? No, I was thoroughly looking forward to the game. I loved it. I absolutely loved it. Did you get the opportunity to speak to Antonio Conte? I did. I had to say he was a touch of class. When I never go out for the warm-up, I always let the staff and the coaches take the warm-up. I think when the manager speaks, you listen and I think you can speak too much sometimes as a manager. I never go out for the warm-up. I was sat in the changing rooms and I was reading the programme I was talking to one of the lads. There was a knock on the door and he was one of the Chelsea stewards. The Chelsea manager would like to speak to you. So I went to speak to him and I have to say he was absolutely class. Telling me a few things about Chelsea and about himself. He wished me all the best and good luck. I thought, you know what? That's a touch of class. He seems a really nice guy and he's certainly got a very good football team there. How nice is that to him? That's brilliant. Football is an amazing industry. It's an amazing industry where the friendships you build up over the years and everything else. Even now, people used to kick lumps out of you. If you met them at a function, they can right over it and talk to you and all that. Mick Harfer is a prime example. Mick was on the phone to me the other day. You can tell Mick. Thanks for that. Mick was a prime example. We used to fight like cat and dog with two teams. He's phoned me now and asked me for certain things. It's an amazing industry to be in. That's a touch of class. I think most managers down the years have been good. Obviously they're old one or two, but that was a touch of class. That's a lovely story. That's just about it for part one of this week's Everton show. Don't go too far away because after the break in the company of Dave Unsworth and Graeme Sharp, we look ahead to the Premier League visitor Leicester City at the weekend. Welcome back to part two of this week's Everton show. I'm in the company of David Unsworth and Graeme Sharp. The end of season awards back in May, Roy Vernon was inducted into our Hall of Fame. He was the latest Everton giant and this is why. Sharpie, when we talk about the great number nine at Everton Football Club, Roy Vernon often gets overlooked, but he was the captain when we won the league in 63 and he was clearly a class centre forward. Wonderful centre forward. Obviously he talked to people now who obviously saw him play. I was unfortunate he didn't see him play, but they would regale you the stories about how really good he was. He was one of the ones when I first came down, you know, when he said, oh, you'll never be as good as Lachford, Royal, Dean, Vernon, Pickering, and they used to beat you with that stick, but they used to, you always made sure they knew what it was like to be an Everton number nine and what you had to follow and Roy Vernon was up there with the best. I don't know, you've got a real sense of history as well about this Football Club, Dave. Absolutely. I mean, Roy, another legend of the Football Club and I just love the stories of our number nines. It's great to talk about what's gone before and that's something special about our club and how famous our number nine shirt is and one of the best here and fantastic and it's what makes our club proud when you talk about traditional values of actually what a shirt and what a number means to Everton fans and, you know, pity the number six wasn't the same. I've seen you before, Dave. You really enjoy the company of former players, don't you? Even Snods and Diamonds. Well, I wouldn't go that far, Dad. I wouldn't go that far. No, quite seriously. No, I love it. It's great. I mean, I mean Joe's company every day so I've got no option really. No, it's great. And what we do really well here is we look after our former players and we're so respectful and I see Colin Harvey on a match day and you see former players coming back and what we do is we treat them right and we treat them well and that's why every player who leaves here never falls out of love with us because we do it right and we're respectful and we appreciate what former players have done for us particularly, you know, with our legends, like World Burning and all the number lines that have gone before. Well, from the heroes of the past to one that we hope will be a hero of the future, it's time for this week's My First Feature. In the seat is John Joe Kenny. Mi Clio. I've still got that now actually, so I'm still flying around and that. I think they were Rumbro as well and I'm back at Rumbro, so not too bad. Custis was there when I was five. I played on the Scotty Rowley when I was younger, so I loved the day when I was a kid, yeah. I used to love a bike when I was a kid, so I was like, I'm going to get a bike and a five-hand to me cousins. That was my big one. Spei went in mum dad me my sister. I still love going around and going on a slide and all that was a kid, so I used to be a bit of a pain, but I loved it when I was a kid. I'm a rabbit dog. I used to love the tweenies in that when I was a kid, so I'd call my dog a mhalo. I was like, I'm sad, I don't like to be fair, so. Oh yeah, he's my dog. Ryan Lettson. He's a really unique fit. About 10 years I think. I think he played Crewe once on the Scotty and we were blind in the centre of it, so I thought my Crewe was going somewhere else then, but I thought it was back, back to the back. It was with me dad. I just thought it was a bit of a stinker, so I looked to the line, I was there, and I could see that look. I thought, I'm in trouble here. So it's probably my dad. I know he's my biggest fanboy. You know, he lets me know one of. I'm at the best of games. Another young player there, Dave, who's impressed you consistently, John Joe Kenny. Yeah, been terrific. Since I've been back at the club for the fifth season now I think. Yeah, fifth season. He's been in the under-23, he's been around the under-23, he's been under-23 captain. Been a standout performer, gone through all the age groups of England and been one of England's best players as well. So just a natural transition into a first team environment. He's been training with the first team for a period of time now. I thought last night he had a great game. We'll see a better John Joe Kenny. There's still a lot more to come from him as well. He's a terrific local lad. He's a great guy. Great in the changing room as well. He was captain for a reason. He leads from the front. He defies his years really. He's a great guy. David's elevation to the first team has given Francis Jeffers the opportunity Sharpie to run the 23s. He seems to have taken it like a duck to water. He has. I was just saying to David before an interval, looking back at Frane as a player, I would never ever thought that you would go down this path. But fair play to him. There comes a time when you've got to make a decision. You decided to go into the coaching side. Dave's raked some highly. So listen, fantastic for him. Absolutely fantastic. If he can take some of his experience and give it to the younger lads, all well and good because he was a fantastic striker. If you listen to Frane Jeffers, he's a fantastic striker. The runs he used to make as a player were brilliant. So if he can teach the lads some of what he had, you know, fantastic, fantastic. His first game was the chequetry trophy game at Lincoln City. That was always going to be a tough game because they are. But that's why we're in that competition. Yeah, we're in the competition. Obviously to win any game. But it's a great tactical and physical challenge for our players. Particularly when you're playing Land of the Giants which was the other night. So it's a great physical battle. And it's won, you know, just saying to Sharpie, the equivalent when we were young was when you played Marine Reserves or First Team or Rochdale Reserves and you used to get battered. So that's the equivalent. And I think it stands our young players in great stead for a long period, maybe in League One or League Two. And apparently second half, I've only watched an hour of the game. But for the most of the second half, we did really well and stood up to that physical challenge. Because you have to. It can all be free-flowing, pretty football from goalkeeper to scoring a goal. There's more than one way to win a game of football and certainly the lad stood up to that challenge and we're unlucky. They really did play well in the second half. We're going to start the countdown now to our Premier League visit to Leicester City at the weekend. We caught up recently with former Leicester City goalkeeper and surprisingly he said that Jamie Vardy is the fox's mental watch. He's obviously the end threat in regards to hitting the ball on the back of the net. He's probably the one that's most likely to do so. All over the pitch I think Leicester have the quality Marine Reserves is another player that stands out that he can create something from nothing. And I think that what's interesting about Leicester is how well they've performed over the course of probably two seasons now, particularly the back end of last season with the style of football that they play that everybody knows about. There's no secrets but people find it really difficult to try to contain them. That's because of the individual talents in players like Mares, the pace of Vardy and let's not forget I think people underestimate how important Shinji Okasaki is to that side. His work rate, the distance he covers in the game is phenomenal. The pressure he puts on in the opposition's backline he's constantly at their heels. He's not allowing them any time on the ball any forces mistakes time and time again. And if he doesn't force a mistake he often gets in a tackle and wins possession really high up the pitch. And that's where Leicester are really, really dangerous when they're able to win the ball when the opposition's on an attack and catch them out of ways, catch players out of position and they're so ruthless and they're so quick in that transition. Leicester City, Sharpie, like ourselves with a new man sitting in the dugout Claude Powell I thought it was a surprising appointment. Everybody obviously had his time at Southampton. I don't think he was one of those who played attacking football, you know but I think you look at his managerial record certainly in France. He took Lyon I think a little bit of success so he's got the the pedigree if you like but I'm not too sure if the Leicester City fans were too enamoured with the choice I don't know what they expected you look at the players they've got they should be doing better but I think they're a little bit surprised with their appointment. You're looking forward to it Dave? Always, always. It's another great challenge. We all know the success they had a couple of years ago and the majority of their players are still there from that great season so tough game but our players should have nothing to fear we'll concentrate on ourselves and we'll pick a team to win and we'll go there with the backing of thousands of Evertonians and hopefully we're standing in front of them and we'll go to the game all jovial and all celebrating a win so looking forward to it but nothing to fear. Certainly is a game to look forward to and by the way there are still tickets available for our next home game in the Premier League against Watford at Gooderson Park on the 5th of November. Prices start at £39 for adults, half price for juniors Visit EvertonFC.com ring the box office or the old traditional way simply call into the box office at Gooderson Park and that's it for this week's Everton show thanks enormously in a busy week to David Underworth also to Graeme Sharp do join us again in 7 days time.