 If we're going to spend between 40% and 50% of GDP on public services, then let's have a conversation that talks about how public services, public spending, particularly in parts of the country outside of the southeast, can be an engine of growth, a real stimulus for innovation, and I don't think we're quite having that conversation yet. What we're seeing is a very differentiated approach to public services across different sectors at the moment. We're seeing local government with perhaps less money to spend, certainly less money to spend. And hard hit in some places, but also more freedom to maneuver, more freedom to create local partnerships. And I think a real question from now onwards is how you create this kind of shared space between public service providers and other stakeholders within the local economy actually to develop new collaborative models together that work across the public, the private and civil society sectors. I think as you get into the inevitable challenge of having more demand than resources to spend on it, then you have to get into the question of how you unlock resource, how you build capacity, how you build resilience in communities.