 Welcome back to the breakfast and Plasti via Africa. We had straight to a second conversation And we're looking at the Abuja invasion or kidnapping where gunmen abducted six persons lecturers including via kids and This is not the first time you were talking about Insecurity in the capital now one good thing that in the capital the capital should be one of the safest places I mean in the country, but that's not the case right now The lecturers are also saying they are traumatized and they can't go to schools And of course you also have some quarters saying kids, you know They need to take the kids and ensure that their kids are not in school Due to all of this that's ongoing. We do have a former commissioner of police Joining the conversation this morning. Lauren Salubi. It's good to have you join us All right, let's quickly share your thoughts on You know the recent Kidnapping that happened in the University of Abuja and the fact that lecturers are saying that they are traumatized and they can't go back to school Before so I think it's very embarrassing So I think we are the cause Until it The University and all Activities Well, Mr. Alobi, I want to your views on you know, what this means because we're not this isn't something that we're used to hearing about Concerning the federal capital territory. I remember there was a time when there were stories that You know bandits had placed a flag or book on my place of flag at Shiroro Area Shiroro Dam area And of course there there when well when that happened people started to say, oh, you know It seems that these terrorists are getting closer to Abuja. So does this, you know Make, you know, do these two events, you know start to you know correlate with each other should people living in the FCT starts to live in fear that maybe the Insecurity in different parts of the country has gotten to the FCT fully Constable The government is Also I think Oh It's not very clear What Okay, well we're struggling with the sound and the feedback from your end this morning But I think you can also quickly go ahead and share With us, you know, what what the what the improvements in security need to you know immediately come into play here Not just in Abuja, but for the rest of the country and what ways would you say the Nigerian government needs to immediately improve on its security structure and investments But I think a lot of students are right there. Not only the police are there, but in terms of I meant that. The police let them pack 100,000 of them. The Nankans were around 20 million people. Once they attacked the vastness of our country, the country, all these are the some kind of all the effort being made to not deal with the result of the challenge, but the government should respond to the police. And again, we have not now, we don't have to then, we have a national policing strategy that can enable all the police officers to know how to navigate, how to conduct functions, how they to color grade, how they to criminalize. So these are the additional policing strategies and frameworks that will also enable the police agencies to give a direction on police enforcement in this country. This is also to be very conscious. Living feeling that only the government are also critical to and take action. And it's like it's what we provide. The houses, the gadgets and also how to be conscious. How to manage money for living life and life of all that person. And also know how to ensure that house boys and house girls are not allowed and not going to capitalize and compromise the security of the parents. So I think it's all, it should be done politically and if this is the government's duty, if one is like this country, on their right, on their right, the judgment of the opposition and of the government. I apologize because of the quality of sound. We have to apologize. The quality of feed from Lawrence Aloubi this morning is the former commission of police but it's not very clear here in exactly what he's saying. So we probably would have to reach out to all this conversation and speak a little bit more on security but thanks anyway for joining us and for being a part of the program. This is where we will be wrapping up for this morning and of course for the week we'll be back here again on Monday morning and for now it's goodbye from us. I am Merci Bohu. Do have a great morning. And I am Usaugi Ogboa wishing you a great weekend ahead.