 Live Live on the metal voice look who we have here today Mark Zander draws Lavery my buddy Alan. What is going on everyone? Exciting news Alan. What do we gots? Oh Warlord conquerors the official lyric video was launched today and Just like tell you guys I can't stop listening to the album. It's fantastic Thank you Guys it's gonna be it the album the epic metal legends Warlord return with a new album free spirit soar and the first single was released today conqueror It will actually was just released digitally right Giles just simply digitally Well, the conqueror is single is gonna be a seven inch coming out in April to proceed the album which is out in May You know as is typical the lyric video was out and it's also on Spotify just that one song from now All right Back in the day, you know, we just have a show here my show called the metal voice And we had an 11 o'clock Not the metal voice not the metal voice The metal file sorry metal files. Yeah Warlord That's cool. September 11th 1985 was when I picked up my copy, but I mean, you know lost it only days and Deliver us from evil. I mean, that's the one song. I could not get out of my head And it's become a kind of a legendary album ever since so I think many many fans are glad that you've recorded again and that Got Warlord label out there and we will have some new music from you from you guys so No, it was It was it was great, you know, you know, just just right up front like I was telling Jimmy before though They won't get the credit for it, but between Giles Jimmy Waldo and Eric. I mean, I played the drums Philip played the bass Okay, we had the easy gigs these guys really Went through Bill's tracks, you know and you know stuff that I had that I've been working on Bill with Bill 2016-2017 and you know, we really couldn't get it going Bill was having a lot of health problems and it just it was just one of those things where it just we just couldn't get it going and Between Giles and Eric and Jimmy they they put it together and it was really It's you know, it's kind of like what the Beatles did, you know They beat us to the punch with that thing of using Lenin stuff from long ago and it's you know, I had Bill's tracks right here, you know And we kind of went from there. So it does kind of crack me up when they see people going man This doesn't sound like warlord Sorry, I you know That's Bill man. Sorry, you know, I'll let him know you don't like it. Okay. I agree and disagree you know, but No, those guys did an amazing job putting it together and You know, I can't give him enough credit because God knows I don't have the patience to do that Giles, what was your first experience? You know being in the band and a lot of people don't know this or some people do and some people don't right? So just tell us about how you slowly transitioned into the band over the years Well, I mean there was a bit of a backstory, you know But the guys I think were having a bit of a hard time finding a singer or that found a guy and he You know, it just wasn't progressing as quick or as effectively or efficiently as it needed to be and mean Bill and Billy and me were friends already and he knew my band dragons claw and was very complementary about my voice and They hadn't they had someone else they were working with for the live shows It was different than the guy that had done the record Holy Empire, which was okay, but Rick Anderson Who wasn't gonna do the tour and I think it just you know a few names got You know pushed around or talked about or whatever and that's you know as you do and then bill I think he said well, what about he rang me up and said well look can you Can you record deliver us child of the damned lost and lonely days and aliens? I'll send you the backing track the mark actually sent me the backing track. Can you record those? I want to hear what you sound like on them And I kind of blew through them one afternoon Because I didn't have my own recording set up at home. I went to Dragon claw guitar dragon claw guitarist Ben his house. I said man. Do you have a couple hours today after work? I need to record these things for warlord So I did and I didn't even think I kind of did them as good as I could have because you know I just hit the two hours, but sending them back to Berlin then, you know You're in Australia in all of this. You're in Australia. I was I was and then then bill rang me up and said We got a lot of work to do but you're in Yeah, that was kind of it. Well, that's not really the story what the real story is is Giles bought on to the band for five grand You know the real truth of the matter is and and God rest his soul is Greg and I was gonna sing and We've been leading up to Him and he was supposed to be like Bill and I had benchmarks like okay We're like six months out like okay after the first month You got to turn these two songs and we need to make sure you got them and as we were progressing Bill and I were kind of gone. I don't think this guy's gonna come to the finish line So I what was it Giles like a couple weeks before it was it wasn't like hey Giles You got five months learning it was like this last minute Giles ain't doing the gig. It's gonna be warlord instrumental Because it got really tight. I mean like like scary tight and he did a great job and he and he stepped into a totally unfamiliar situation and You know It was great, you know, he did a great job but it definitely was he saved the day and it was his last minute kind of thing because Kind of blew up on her face, but that's typical warlord always having the singer blow up in their face So nothing new It was kind of it was kind of it was was last minute I think it might have been like at most it was like a month and it was like well, you got to learn 18 songs and You know, it was I mean the first gig Wasn't we didn't go play clubs or have any warm-up dates Whatever the first gig was headlining like a pretty decent size festival I remember doing sound check and I'm looking out there and there was a lot of Merchandise sellers and people selling their wares and various things like that setting up And I looked out and went man, there's more people here for sound check than any gig I've ever played in my life You know It was and by the time the gig came the place was rammed You know for people and it was like you step out. I never played to an audience that big before we're talking, you know a lot of people a lot of people was like three 3000 I think something you walk out and it just hits you in the face. It is like being hit with like a Fan blowing wind on you the fans going and you've just got to find your footing really really quickly because if you take your foot off that Accelerator you're gonna Get a bit about that step tall in about a split second. So it was like here we go You know so and then when we got to Greece those shows it got better and better every night But it was only four gigs. So by the time we kind of really like well We're cooking now. It was kind of done, but you know that'll change. We're gonna do a lot of shows Hopefully with this band You know Giles, we know you've been a long time friend of the show It's all started when you sent us a Dragon's Claw CD Going back on I guess a decade ago almost decade and you do such a great job in the metal voice intro We've got nothing but compliments for your vocals on that but I'm listening this album. I would never think it was you I mean, this is like a different. I don't know if it's a different ranger. It just seems like so I Don't know your voices. I just love the way your voice has grown and mature there I guess it comes with age I guess we can say but and just fantastic vocals are on this well, it's it's a little why I appreciate that I mean it is a little bit like what's appropriate for the band. I mean if you You know, I mean if you get a role I mean, I can only liken it to like acting where if you get a role in a movie and there's a big difference between You know mr. Bean and Dracula, you know, they don't know the same thing, you know, yeah, yeah Ballot isn't about just shrieking your head off top to bottom, you know, whereas some other gigs are and I was very conscious of that. I didn't want to come out Just, you know, let's just show everyone how high I can scream and how long I can hold the notes And that's gonna get pretty boring about three minutes, you know, so it calls for different stuff I kept a lot of builds advice in mind and a lot of there was a whole lot of what would build it, you know going on Alan Alan hold up the album deliver us So that's back There's a funny story about that too, I'll never forget well the first funny warlord has an interesting recording beginning deliver us $800 start to finish a track recording the The engineer was smoking cocaine cigarettes the whole time We actually had he was good friends with Stuart Copeland. So Stuart Copeland shows up just to make fun of us You know, it was warlord with the names Thunder child and destroying all that stuff. So here you got true the Thunder child business Jules you need a name. What are we gonna call him? No, the you know, it's funny about that and that's getting off in a tangent look how many guys out there now have goofy ass names You know, I mean Bill was ahead of this time and a conversation. I mean, that's that's all there was to it But anyway, so you do an $800 record the bass the two bass drums and the bass guitar on the same track bounce down Okay, lovely. We go to do the second record We're doing the soundtrack for the video because we're not gonna be able to play live when we do the video so we need to have the recording and technically the whole records out of face another $800 fiasco and the small little studio in North Hollywood or wherever and Warlord never got really the ability to really record The proper way per se, I guess you can say in a really nice studio with a great engineer and stuff like that So it's refreshing toward the end where we were able to do that kind of thing and really see, you know What it comes out sounding like and shocking enough the cannons is the only gig the live performance You ever did without an audience that you videotaped. Yep That was back in the day back in the day back in the well again This was kind of our brainchild. It's like, okay, we're sitting there in LA We're watching Motley crew faster pussycat rat warrant get all these deals and we're gone. Okay, that's not really our gig here How do we get out to the European audience? You gotta remember there is no computer and there is no social media So we go, okay Why don't we do a video and then at least people in Europe can see what the band is like, you know We're a little ahead of our time and that respect borrowed $5,000 from my parents and We went to Perkins Palace and the funny part of it is Perkins Palace is the same place where spinal tap Shot that scene where they come in with The the black album or the white album or whatever that's all black. No the glove or whatever That is Perkins Palace. The funny part about that whole video shoot is, you know, we had to hire the the film crew We had to hire the lighting. We hired this the sound the playback whatever whatever complete disaster You know, we're thinking okay, we're gonna film this four or five times different angles. This will be great Technically, it's about quarter to 12. We got to leave it 12 at midnight. They're sitting there like this, okay Then we go haven't filmed anything Basically, well, it was more than that because we did one we did one take that's why if you ever notice It's two cameras in the back and they switch back and forth for each other They're never like anything happening from the drum side or anything like that And I'll never forget about 1030 the sound engineer sits there and goes hey, man I ain't turning any spaders on until I get something to eat and we're just like looking at each other We're scrambling, you know, it's it was it was it was rough. I mean it got done, you know, whatever But it it's it was rough. Let's just put it that way. It was well Jals tell me about your fascination with warlord back in the day in Australia Well, New Zealand. I'll go one better. Oh, yeah, see New Zealand. Yeah, I lived in New Zealand before I lived in Australia and Fascination. Well, I mean I I bought the best of warlord on CD the one with a castle on the front Because I just bought it because it looked, you know, like here's a metal band I haven't heard and this is you know, I was like nine Nine or ten and I bought it and you know, I would deliver us was track one I was like, wow this this saying I mean, I didn't know what to expect Is this a cookie monster kind of trash metal band? Is this you know, is this another one of them Queens right kind of copy things? No, no, I put it on because it didn't it didn't have any information on it It didn't say recorded 1983 you recorded 1984. It just was like released 86 or whatever the CD was and I loved the song. So first thing that stuck out was like this These songs are amazing. Every song is different They seem to have had a number of different singers here because I'm hearing at least two different voices and The thing I did recognize was Mark Well, there's Mark's name and I know him from Fates warning. Yeah, so I kind of For me it was like before I found out about who Bill was and this guy that's writing these amazing songs I made the connection between oh, this was Mark's on this band before he was in Fates warning So that got me even more excited So, you know, you need something to kind of grab hold of when you when you're getting into a new band and a minute I figured that out. I was like, right, I'm gonna give this one another spin and another spin Listen to it again before I knew it's one of my favorite CDs And then I just you know, try to find the original EP and the Canon's video which took me a forever to find a copy of Yeah, I mean I was a kid I was really young Oh Now you're fronting the band In a way it's a bit like that movie steel dragon, you know that we're missing one small thing. What's that million selling record? The success that Mark Wahlberg had there with Whatever they were called Castles on the hill that we drive into or anything like that So mark, here's the naysayers the naysayers how dare you how dare you mark go out as warlord How dare you bill is dead and bills like iconic, you know, especially in European communities right in metal communities that is What do you say to the naysayers who's saying how dare you do this? You cannot do this I mean, of course, there's a lot of love too, but the naysayers Do I need to say anything? I don't know you could say whatever you want, you know, I mean, it's funny this day and age It's kind of like I could sit here and spend my life on social media Going down the rabbit hole I'm 65 years old my mom's dead Shane telling me what to do or not to do I mean, you know, am I doing anything illegal? No, I Don't know, you know We could get into this long discussion and I could bring up emails from bill telling us to continue and go on and you know I told mark 20 times go get another good touch. Well, even when bill was sick And he was alive. He was like man, just go get somebody anybody can play this, you know Just go get it let my music live. I mean and here's the real bottom line I'm not a Justin Bieber fan. I Don't buy the record. I don't go to the gig. I don't spend my life on the internet Justin hang it up, you know, I was telling talking to jiles today the other day and I go tell us could you imagine, you know When I was 17 years old and In journey was my favorite band and I'm talking the first three records before Steve Perry I mean still my favorite band, but anyways, well Kansas too, but anyways, could you imagine me sitting down and typing out a letter to Herbie Herbert, you know manager during say, how dare you get Steve Perry in the band and take away great Rawley's vocals and get rid of the jazz space jams Really really If you're not into it man, walk on We're good we're good I don't I Just don't see that, you know, I don't see that, you know, oh my god But I can't listen to deep purple anymore because Richie Blackmore left People are mark 5 right now. Whatever You know people need to realize a couple things to Bill died Okay, he didn't get kicked out of the band Mark and Giles didn't hijack the band and you know, whatever whatever you want to say. He died. Okay show a little respect You know That's about it Plus you're a co-founder, right? Yeah, that's absolutely, you know, and Yeah, you know, we had a partnership we have legal partnership and You know, I was just One couldn't have went without the other, you know, yes, you know bill was writing the music per se But there's a lot more in a band than just writing the music, you know So but I'm not even going to that thing. I'm just saying hey if you're not into it. That's great That's cool, you know, listen to what you want to listen to I listen to what I want to listen to and Then just just move on from there, you know, you know You know instead of sitting there spending your life on the internet typing out how what we did was so got off I want you to go feed the homeless You know do something productive, you know start your own band You know, but it's just really, you know, again, I thought I was really nice If you know if I was going to teach a class I tell all the bands right now that are coming out Yes, put your stuff on social media, but don't ever read any of it. He goes, you know Just as a human being you don't want to read it. Yeah, the good stuff's great You know, but you don't want to go down Because you take it as like a personal thing so you have to learn just to go whatever, you know moving on rubber Plot rubber plaid didn't you didn't read the interviews and that they're Wonder if I mean you got you got Pantera out there hitting it pretty big right now I mean is Charlie Bernante on Facebook reading like, you know fake terror or Or pan, you know Pantera tribute, you know all these comments I don't think so. I mean, maybe he is I don't know, but it's again It's not really my place to comment because I wasn't there in 1980 1981-82-83 but You know, it's What's the alternative that that this music doesn't get played live and enjoyed by people That the band just kind of fades away into obscurity because there's nothing that refreshes the brand It's like John Oliva once said he goes they say why you you know, how dare you or why do you continue when Chris your brother Chris died? He said well number one. He's my brother And I want to honor his memory number two he goes if sabotage just packed up and quit in 93 We wouldn't be talking about them now And there certainly would have been no chance to be an orchestra well it's kind of interesting too as I'm rehearsing these songs and I'm playing them and and you know All all that's happening is when I'm playing them is these images the bill are coming back, you know I'm playing them. I'm having these images of when we played those, you know, small amount of live gigs I when I'm playing I'm thinking back to the old warlord manor days I'm thinking back even to the warehouse before that when it was just me and bill bill standing around in his kiss boots You know, we're playing battle of living dead at 275 beats per minute. You know, let's have a stroke All those things come back and it's like why shouldn't I be able to play those songs live? Why not? I mean, I have a feeling there's people in this world that have played those songs live more than I have so You know what I mean? So why can't I play them live, you know? And let's let's just dispel the rumor now because Jimmy brought it up. What do I say to those people? Trust me There's no money in this. This is not a money thing Believe me. It's not a money thing. Well, it's funny because you know Mark and I are kind of like, you know, we've had some some decent interests some decent offers, but it's always kind of like Wow, do you think we can get from that gig to that gig? Okay, and still still kind of not coming You know, it's not gonna be like break the bank too much. There's not these are not You know million-dollar offers. This genre isn't even that big this subgenre is even smaller This is nothing to do with money This is about the music and playing it sounds like a cliche. It's all about the music man. It really is It's about celebrating the songs the band and the truth of it is Giles works his ass off managing 19 bands I have my businesses and recording stuff by knows out with by all the time Jimmy's out with Alcatraz and a million other recording projects, you know from people worldwide, you know, I mean It would be great. I would love to tell everybody. Hey, man It is about the money and we're all making two hundred fifty thousand dollars a year rock on C in Rio But it's not, you know, and anybody it's so funny though because anybody that's in the business will go Oh, yeah, I ain't about the money. They know they know, you know, I think certain singers playing 74 different bands You know how to make money people have to work, you know, but this this one is definitely not About the money per se there. It's not like we're just discussing, you know a gig from What was it from France to Italy? It's like, well, how are we gonna make it there? You know, it's like well if we fly it's gonna cost this much Well, we're gonna have to drive all night, you know, it's like no, you know And then and then all we need is, you know, someone to break a guitar string there goes the budget So it's not like in drumstick. Yeah, exactly. It's not what people exactly think I mean our biggest problem is just getting proper gear and not having to pay a fortune that bring it with or ship Like all these small little items and whatever, but no, it's not about the money and I love these clowns who are on there Oh, you know, they're doing that for the money, you know, I go I'd go hold up a liquor store if I was really looking for money I mean, it's it's kind of cool that people think it's still like that. Like, wow, those guys must be Never was like that. Are you kidding me $800 records? Right, right. Yeah, I think we just I think we just spent double that cut in a couple of b-sides I mean, you know, it's I don't I don't even know how you did that, you know Well, if you saw the studio, then, you know, you didn't get belittled by Stuart Copeland, you know That was gonna ask you more. It was he was making fun of you and then until he heard you play or He was making fun the whole time. He was he was he was in there indulging and He was hanging out with the engineer and I think that the whole thing with the, you know destroyer and thunder child and warlord and the whole thing, you know, you got to remember He was playing message in a bottle, you know, he tells you it's not about the money. He's lying through his teeth. Okay, right? But I mean, he was cool, you know, he was funny and cool, but he had that edge, you know He definitely had an edge, you know, I think what people don't realize how epic warlord is You know, you had a bill with his neoclassical Randy Rhodes style guitar playing Yet mark you the drumming is phenomenal, especially on the first two albums and Alan could attest to this man The drumming is just out of this world. I don't think people truly I may they do right because it's grown the band the band has grown mark because of the quality of songs and musicianship and It's just and they're melodic too. They're catchy, right? It's it's amazing how this band was this little tiny little niche band and it's kind of grew into this kind of cult status I've always said it, you know, and It was the coulda shoulda woulda band, you know, it's call it timing call it The gods just weren't shining down upon us, you know Call it whatever you will, you know, it was it was had nothing to do with the intensity and the drive of the band You know, the really problem in the beginning was a singer, you know, we just we you know, we we talked them all It's the drummer, but in your case, it's a singer, right? Yeah. Oh, no, my whole career has been plagued with a singer problem It's it's it's kind of it's not funny But you know Bill and I used to say, you know, we looked at each other a man if one of us could sing we wouldn't need anybody else You know But no, we talked to just got so do we talk to mark polls we talked to Neil Turbin We thought I mean you you name it. I got a million stories on the singers I'll never forget the funniest one was that it was a no-name guy This is blonde dude from Hollywood or not from Hollywood or Malibu shows up at the door comes into the rehearsal Dude was having like a total surfer dude And we go and we start playing holiday by the scorpions and all of a sudden he cops the German accent and male me and bill We're like looking at each other. It was funny. We had our moments, you know, we had some There was some fun times. There's definitely some fun times, but it was the singer. It was just it was just such a problem I mean, we did do a showcase for bill of coin And he was telling us about this guy from this band generation X that he was gonna manage and that turned out to be Billy Idle But yeah, Jack the original singer, you know, here's Bill and his kiss boots and Craig You're talking about Damien King now, right? Damien King. This is the original Damien King DK man DK is in the house So yeah, and so Jack was basically kind of like a pop singer studio guy Again back then all these guys looking for the money. They're looking for the money You got to have the money We do a showcase and people have to remember bill pitched every singer every line Okay, at that point it was it was bills. It was bills gig. So anyways We do the showcase and bills looking like, you know, he's supposed to look and Craig the bass players looking like he's supposed to look And I think that was Jerry Alsovar who was playing keyboards and he was cool and everything was cool And then Jack the singer comes in With eyeliner like nobody's business and literally like a kid's Halloween tape with that patty smite black and white striped shirt we're like What in God's name is going on and bill a coin told us flat out great band. You need a different singer That was it Yeah, that was it, you know and then Jack was you know Jack was a great singer There's no question, you know, but he wasn't into the band at all You know, I'm not sure whatever happened with him, I don't know if he pursued it a lot of guys bailed It just amazed me how there were certain opportunities and certain people just couldn't see it, I guess, you know So that was our problem. That's why we never got to that status like you said Yeah Sorry, the one guy we haven't spoken about is Eric Juris right on guitar. That's that's how he how do you come into a project? Moving right along as we would say Well, my friend David Reese who's also a singer he He just said look If you're looking for a guy for war Lord, I know this I know this guy Eric And you know, I mean people recommend other people for things all the time I mean, it's always like hey, you know, keep me in mind if you you know, so you I kind of went Yeah, okay, cool. I'll check him out and I I sort of didn't and then and then about a week later David's like Man, you really got to check out this guy Eric, you know, I might go I think we've kind of got a guy that's gonna, you know work on some stuff with us Then finally, I think Eric reached out to me and I said, okay Well, because we were talking to several different people and like one guy we pretty much I mean, I think the search party is still looking for him I mean, he was gonna send some tracks back and we never he was in a big band, too I mean, he's that's a good hour of our lives that will never get back. Oh, yeah We we I mean, I had a long talk with him and he said how much he loved the band He was super into it and this is a knowing guy that's been in some big bands. I'm not gonna say his name I don't want to embarrass him but I mean, wow, you know, we were like, well, if we could get this guy this big, right He goes, I'm gonna have the tracks back to you in a week. It's been like a year Anyway, finally Eric Eric sent back The tracks because we sent him like from the live record. We just pulled off the guitars We pulled off everything kind of but the drums just to hear his guitar And he sent sent some tunes back much like my audition was We're like, damn That's that's not even that's not just close. That's really really tight and really spot-on. I mean You know, it's it's never gonna be bill because bill was obviously a very very unique player But as far as the parts go it was dead on and we're like, wow, okay. This is the guy. Wow That's how we found Eric I would agree with that. I mean, I mean Alan we heard the album and Wow, it's eerie. It's scary. It's just how close he is. It's just well, he understood He understood the Greek influence as well You know, he even even he even pointed that out before I told him, you know One of the things that I really Appreciate and enjoy most about him is the professionalism and we all know in this industry It's a rare one and just working with him and obviously in my career I've worked with some quote name players and Just because you can play doesn't mean you can assemble a record, you know Those are two different animals there and just working with guys at a pro and it's just, you know Waldo too and fill up obviously and you know, we put up with Giles, but you know, what can you say? We need a singer. I mean, come on. He shows up But it's just when you start Just with pros When they say tuesday, they mean tuesday. They don't mean a week from tuesday. Okay when they They send it back. It's perfect. It's in line. It's happening. It's this it's that it's like It's it's just such a pleasure because this day and age are so much On the outside that you have to deal with But he definitely had the nailing it down But the one thing that I did come to realize and it's not a bad thing by any means and giles said it Everybody's different. You know, I could play Neil. I could spend my whole life learning Neil Perz parts I'm I'm gonna sound like him in the respect of I'll hit the drums at the same times that he does in certain things but every player especially quality ones have a certain thing and The one thing I have learned by listening to the records and even rehearsing to some of the stuff that eric's played Bill just had a certain I'm not going to say jimmy page sloppy because it's not jimmy page sloppy, but every guitar player is just different They could play the same part But it's just different and it just kind of was is very interesting for me when I was playing to some of these songs I'm like, wow, this is this is kind of interesting. It's it's bill's parts, but You know, everybody's a little different. You know, so You know what we should also mention, uh, you know, uh, jimmy waldo and his keyboard playing on this album And there is still a greek in the band. So that's the good news. You still You got jimmy waldo. Don't let the name fool you So at least you have that greek guy in the band and also the keyboard playing is great. It's it's got that real, uh Yes, synti sound, you know that rick wakeman ish type if I can if I can if I can if I can interrupt here And I'm sorry but talk about a guy that took it seriously I mean jimmy I mean he he was not like a warlord fan He'd heard of the band. He knew my background with it. He certainly knew marx background because Mark and jimmy have worked together a lot, you know in the past the grand bonnet band and that but Talk about a guy that just delved into the warlord catalogue and took it as seriously as anyone I've ever seen You know jimmy rang me up and he goes okay, that's a That's a 1970 something mini mode mode used on deliver us because I want to bring that back. I love that And that's uh, that's this key and this tuning and he highly any goes that's a greek melody and he goes He goes, I want to use the exact same synthesizer sounds and I want to I mean he it was almost like Wow, dude, like he just nerded out so much on the key parts and he and and when he was playing because again This is all bill's music. We didn't write music. I wrote lyrics and vocal melodies, but we didn't write music So all bill's music we assembled parts that weren't complete songs But jimmy just stuck exactly To bill's tracks exactly I think a little that just goes right back to kind of what I was saying when you're working with professionals It's amazing. What can happen and what can get done and when I don't know if you remember jelton We first started and talked about this idea One of my concerns in yours is too, you know, we didn't need the prog Quince essential keyboard player coming in, you know and gonna. Oh, hey, I can make this better and and let me do this So let me be creative. It was about copying what was going on and taking the limit and again when you work with pros This is what you get, you know, and again, it was seamless Like he said jimmy went way beyond, you know, he got into it, you know Which was great, you know, but he he took it extremely and a lot of guys just don't take it seriously And they bang it out and send it back But now jimmy really went to town on that one A lot of guys a lot of guys are trying to make a name. I mean, and that's what I like about eric as well I mean everyone sort of goes well, yeah, I can play it but I want to add my own thing to it. I want to make it my own Everyone wants to especially guitar players There's no making There's no making it your own here. This is bill's music and and eric was even like Man, you've got some of bill's tracks here. You can use for this song You don't need these sound good enough. You don't need me on this one A lot of guys would just want to be blazing through the whole record just so they can say they're on the whole record That's not eric, you know I'm so glad that two of you mentioned that because that was my takeaway listening to this album It's a cohesive unit That contributes to the overall music like giles said it was about the music So the sum is really greater than the parts Everybody is I don't want to say laid back or underplays it's just that That song is what's important So like you said that you don't have to want to frog solo or keyboard if it's keyboard or guitar It's just everybody's in the groove that is so cohesive on each and every song That's what that's what I took away from this album. Well, that's what warlord was all about from the beginning anyways You know it was always about the song first And then you can get cute and do your thing afterwards, but you know people need to know to live You know, it'll be note for note as as if it were built, you know, it'll be note for note. There's not going to be any You know, we might have a section in there where we stop and we're going to have the audience row You know with us me and giles have been talking about that, but we're not gonna we're not going to add You know, we're not going to get into like okay 16 bar lead. Okay, eric You know, I know you you know are doing the warlord stuff, but hey, this is your time to shine We're not doing that people want to come see warlord and that's what we're going to give them You know, we're not going to bust out You know, whatever it's just going to be exactly what they expect, you know 17 warlord songs All right So that's what people can expect the hits plus some new tracks on the shows at the festival dates. Is that it? Actually on these shows coming out. We're just playing the old stuff, you know, we want to kind of put really put in the water um Kind of an interesting story where why I kind of came up with this one I kind of made the executive quote decision on this one um A lot of times you go see band big bands big bands, you know The like the legacy bands, you know that you're going to hear their their hits And the minute that guy steps up to the mic and says hey, we got a new album out Exactly. I mean I've seen it live myself, you know, so right now Especially because you know and in giles when I talk about this not that we're treading on You know, uh, you know soil that we don't know about or like, you know, it's like we're not sure Let's give them exactly what they want. I don't want to hear. Oh, you should have played penny for a poor man And why did you play some new stuff? That's not even done. Whatever Let's just go with what we know We've done it before giles and I and philip Have done it before so let's just go do what We know works and then we can move on from then But let's get those first x amount of shows Establish the reputation of this band with these players live You know, and then we could bust into van halen or whatever we want to do, you know But but I just thought it was important to give them exactly What everybody kind of wants. No, don't let's not put any curveballs in there for the sake of that The other thing that keeps kind of coming up or doesn't keep coming up But I've seen it posted a few times two things One is, you know, why didn't you guys do it like shanker fest and bring back everyone who ever Everyone who's still around that was ever in the band and have four bass players and five singers and whatever Oh, yeah, that sounds great. That sounds great. Uh-huh It sounds great, but it's not the poly. I mean, that's like the polyphonic spree You know where you're just adding guys all the time. It would be impossible I mean, like I said budgets are not huge. We can't It's also got to be a tight knit group of people that really get what this is about And that was the only way we could make this record The only way we can plan execute and pull off these shows is everyone has to kind of be in lockstep with each other You can't just have Let's arbitrarily bring in like a guy that no one's heard of for 40 years But let me ask you a question Which past warlord member is quote active What's Damien king doing You mean, okay, we're in a library somewhere. I don't know if you if you can find jack rucker Hey, I'll get right out of the way if he wants to come if he wants to come in and he can still do this Like he did it then he's in But where is he? Where is he? But again, though, nobody really I don't know You know, I'm not gonna say they all came in wins and I don't you know Sound like a hole, but it was kind of like Anybody earn it anybody deserve it What are we gonna do bring in like and then what hey man? I'd love to do it I haven't picked up the base in 24 years. Oh great. Cool. This will be great being shape You gotta be in shape But like I'm saying though who's active rick fox I mean he played with warlord for a week and a half maybe You know, um I don't know, you know the the fact that You know giles is on board, you know bino's been there for a while um You know again, you know, it goes to other bands that i'm in as well It's like really come to the conclusion this day and age you got to be doing things With your friends guys that you trust guys that you know That so when you turn around and go hey man, we're gonna do this and this can you make it? They'll either say yes or they'll say no, but here's two guys. That'll take my place, you know Just kind of learned that one recently, but yeah, it was just important to have guys that were into it Yeah, you have to be into it You know and it was We give that mark. What's happening with a to z is there a second album coming or it's uh 95 done Ray's got two songs to sing all the music's done uh, you've got uh You know philip bino obviously is still there uh jimmy waldo Who's added his lovely touch to this record and the guitar players are nick van dyke and um, Um, um, Simone Malaroni, I think that's how you pronounce his last name Who did the mix on the last record and we'll be doing the mix on this record as well Playing a lot of the lead in the orchestrated guitar part. So no everything's everything's you know moving along moving along It's kind of good timing, you know because come august september We're going to be doing this kind of stuff and you know through that part of the year and You know we finish up that record within a month or so Then it takes them what a year to put it out kind of thing and you know the artwork's done everything's done It's just kind of like okay ray knock out those last two and Simone can get mixing. I mean everybody else has all their parts in And uh ready to go Charles close us out tell us about the album when it's going to be released again some show dates and festival dates We're made a tent. Um, I can't tell you all the show dates right now because we do they do get announced when the festivals decide They want to announce the bands but we've got true. We've got the true home festival coming up on the 23rd in germany Um, we're going to have a warm-up show before that We've got the golden golden rules festival in greece, which is going to be massive We think that's going to be on the 30th. They do have a multi-day thing though, but i'm told it's going to probably going to be the 30th we've got the Iranian warriors festival, which I believe is the 14th of september. I believe So and we're filling in the gaps and there's there's more stuff that I can't say anything about yet But we're getting some you know, it's going to be a cool run that we're going to be doing light of this year of live shows I got the more important question though for jimmy When's the metal voice concert? Allen wins a metal voice Why are you guys laughing man? Come on, man. It's the cold child We thought about being promoting some some bands, but the logistics just wasn't there. So It sounds like a real red line kind of thing to do. I don't know I don't know. I think I'll stick to what you're just thinking about the money now jimmy Come on jimmy. We know you jimmy money. Come on. Nope. Nope. No, you know what? You know what the thoughts have crossed me and allen's mind and then we looked at the bottom line and we go You know what? Maybe it's not for us Interesting thing is is is is someone is going to get the very first american warlord show warlord is never played So Yeah, we're talking to a couple of festivals, but some we want to make it real special So someone's going to get the first us warlord show You know what I was thinking though is uh, i'm not sure if they knocked it down or not But how about a little revisit to perkins palace? I'm perkins palace. There you go We did the video Smell the glove festival dude. We can get michael mckay in or whatever his name is to walk down, you know, it's your It's all black. Why is it all black? Can we get can we get can we get slayers uh fog machine? Absolutely. I'll give it. Yeah, I'll give it. Mark Funko. What was his name? Mark, uh, what was it? The promoter Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, no, I know you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah When they do the in-store Kick me That was all right guys Okay, guys, all right, so let's go last note It's the album is going to be released may 10th on high roller records That's free spirit sore and the new single conquerors out. So pick it up guys. Thank you so much. It's been a pleasure Oh, it's thanks jimmy. Thanks again. Congrats again. There's a great album