 He's a cute one, huh? HD, little tiny whoop. It is an HD whoop. We call it the Digi-whoop. So this is Ron from OAS Hobby, aka Mr. OAS himself, the creator behind the Digi-whoop. So what were you thinking with this thing? There wasn't a digital product that we could do both indoors and outdoors and have a good fun flight experience with both of them. Really it's the solution for a digital product that can go indoors and outdoors. One reason I never liked switching to the Digi-digital FPV system was because the size of the area unit was too big to fit in just every ordinary-sized quad. I wanted to fly HD on something really small so I could fly through trees, so I could fly through tight gaps. Now with the KX Vista, we have that HD capabilities and now essentially you've taken that platform and put it on a smaller-sized drone with ducks that can fly well outdoors but can also fly indoors. I think it's the perfect solution for what we're going for. All right, let's fly. Oh man, I'm not used to flying three-self. What do you think, power-wise? I think the power is good. I think it's just a little heavy. The Vista adds a lot of weight. Like I'm flying it at mostly full power but I'm knocking into everything and I'm taking it back off. So that's nice. Yeah, I'm really on the throttle. But it's got good power. Oh, that's nice, okay. Like these tiny drones because you can really just fly them with confidence around. I feel like you're trying to get used to carrying the weight a little bit. Yeah, I am. It just takes some getting used to. It seemed like you were at first just trying to fly like you with your five-inch. This is really fun. It's like flying through all the gaps. Just lower speed. Yeah, like I'm not saying I'm going slow either. It's just like you couldn't do this with a five-inch quad. This is so cool. Probably with a five-inch quad. You could do this, but one little extra blip of the throttle. I don't know. I don't know that you could fit through some of these. Oh yeah, some of these gaps you're definitely not fitting through with a five-inch. What? This is awesome. Even if you hit stuff, you're still good. Dude, go over to the building. My battery's done. Oh, you are done. Oh, seven point. Yep, yep. So, only downside I can really see to this quad is the flight time wasn't really that good. I probably flew around for a minute and a half actually air time. I was ripping it for probably the first 30 seconds. The power itself is really good because you're flying with more power. It also drops the voltage while you're flying. So it just kind of makes it feel a little unresponsive. But when you're just cruising around in the trees and everything like that, it's a lot of fun. There was no way I was gonna do that with a five-inch quad. All right, I wanna get a shot at this thing. I really like that you can get to the bind button without a special tool because normally when we're sharing a drone like this, having to get out that little poker tool makes switching the goggles that it's linked to kind of annoying. So that I can just quickly link this to my goggles. I'm happy with that. It's just a very different flying experience. I'm kind of having to like hold myself back from doing what I'd normally do, which is like bigger or more swoopy thingies and just like get really in this tight area and just enjoy cruising. These are the perfect trees for this. Oh yeah, you got to get on the throttle earlier because it's got some weight too. So it has power, but with that weight, ooh, that's a little sketchy. I feel the weight more when you're dropping. Yeah, when you drop, you got to get it on the power a lot earlier. But this building, this is pretty tight. Look at these little holes here. So I wanna try and dive one of them, but I don't know if I have the power to pull out, so. There you go. That's pretty good. That was a good one. It's stable upside down. That's nice. It's just the weight. So it's got weight, but at least it does have a really nice float to it. As long as you get on the throttle early enough, it's really not a problem. Only downside I'm really seeing so far is that the flight time is not really there. Well, you could get a larger battery. Yeah, but then you get more weight. And then you're still up in the throttle more, so you're just, there's a certain point where like, even if you go to a bigger battery, you're not gonna gain flight time because you just have to use more power to keep it in the air. What size of battery do you normally fly on, Ron? 450, I think. So 450, yeah, I've got a 450. You fly 850? 850. How many you got? A lot. Let me see your bigger battery. I just wanna see if the weight to power ratio is affected much by the battery. The C rating is based on the battery size. You also have to use more power to keep it in the air, because it's heavier now. You think this is the sauce, Ron? I think it really depends on your fly style and what you're concerned with, right? So if you're concerned with flight time and you're not trying to, you know, pull out of a dive like these guys are doing, then a bigger battery would suffice. If you're more concerned about being able to do cool things, I think you can go with a smaller, longer battery. It sounds more powerful. It's got more power, but I do feel the weight. So let's see, does it pull out? Oh, yeah, it's not heavy with the thick battery. Dude, I'm so not calibrated. That's so weird, because I could do it first try on the smaller battery. I remember my first pilot. There we go. Oh, and it pulled out. I don't know, Vanny. I might like it better. So I actually, off the bat, just hovering it. I like it better now, because I'm... But you do feel the weight. Oh, yeah, but like, the power is better. It seems that power is more consistent. So you have that weight to deal with, but on that smaller battery, every time I gave a throttle, my voltage was sagging big time, and now it's staying more consistently up there in the 12s. Nice, nice. So I think, I was full power, I was full power. We're here, we're here, we're here. Now there's something you've been doing with the Vista to improve its performance. What's that? Yeah, so there's a feature in device settings called auto temp control. What that does is it basically allows the air unit or whatever unit you're flying to not overheat. So yeah, if the drone is sitting plugged in, like it is here, it's getting, it's already really toasty. And the Vista gets really hot. When you've got everything hooked up correctly, when you arm the quad, it should always go to full power. So the way auto temp control is supposed to work is that when you are not armed, it reduces your power output to help the device overheat less. Sometimes it doesn't always work 100%, especially on the Vista. This is an awesome product, but it just seems like sometimes that auto temperature control doesn't shut off with the disarming. If you guys are having issues with the Vista, whether it's on the DigiWoop or just your own personal use of the Vista, just go turn auto temp control off and just be sure to not leave it plugged in for too long. Otherwise you will overheat the unit. It'll burn your finger. It will do that. It also, it will not, you cannot record unless it's armed. Cause it's in low power mode. When it's not armed, it's in low power mode. Yeah, that's a weird little quirk. That's definitely a good deal. Okay, well, on the most recent firmware as of today, these are just some quirks that we've noticed when flying the Vista as opposed to the full size air unit directly from DJI. Turn off the auto temperature control and be aware that you might not be able to start recording until the drone is already armed. Vanny, what did you think of freestyling with the DigiWoop? You know, I enjoyed it, but to be honest with you, I got a little bit bored. I just felt like if I had more power, I could pull off some more tricks. I think I need to do something else with the quad. Like I need to do more with it. Well, I think your style leans more towards like cinematic stuff. So I want to know if you can get some micro cinematic footage. Okay. And what better thing than good old drifting. Oh shoot. This is actually a lot of fun. I'm getting more used to like the throttle and the drone itself. It feels like what it would feel like if you scaled it down. So Ron's original spec for the DigiWoop used 1106 6000 KV motors. For the rotor ride version, we are using our dad motors, which is an 1104 7500 KV. Yes. So you lose a little, maybe low end torque because that motor is smaller. But you're going to gain more high RPM, which for us, I think we like cause we can kind of maintain a higher speed. It's going to give you more agility. Cause the motor's going to be a lot more responsive. The other thing I liked about the 1104 is it lowered the props to be more even with the ducts. All your other line of plots typically have a higher KV motor. So it makes sense for the rotor ride version to have that. And it does give you all the responsiveness of the tire profiling that you typically do anyway. So that's fantastic, right? But either way with the OAS spec or the rotor ride spec, you can fly with a three cell battery as we've been doing out here, which gives you more power when we're in a little bit of open area. But if you're in a, maybe a tighter area or even indoors, like you originally envisioned this for, you can step this down to 2S, right? Yes, you can step it down to 2S and Tyler over at their rotor ride, Tyler Crane, he did a fantastic job with the dump. I'm not going to take credit for the tune cause he did it. But what it is, is when you plug in a 2S battery, it automatically recognizes the 2S battery and changes your rates, changes your filter settings. And then when you go outside and plug in a 3S battery, it changes your rates, changes your filter settings. So there's nothing you have to do. Whatever battery you plug in, the droid knows what you're doing. It'll change it so that the tune is optimized for that lower battery. And I think we got to find a little indoor area, plug in a 2S and see how does it stack up when we're trying to fly even tighter areas. This is Kade, this is the rotor ride intern. Am I looking in the right spot? Hello. No, Kade, have you ever been flown a drone before? Wow. You know, we'll start you on the 2S, see if you can handle it. But I'd like more power for sure. If I were to buy this swoop, I'd probably go for the 3S. But I definitely think the 2S is doable. Well, you don't have to change anything. You just use either battery. That's true. So what's nice about the 2S is that lower power, lower responsiveness, I think makes it a lot more controllable. Yeah. I mean, you were flying through a lot of these tight gaps. It was definitely lacking the power. So let's see, let's step you up. Let's step you up to 12 volts and see what you can do with that. Oh, big boy, 12 volts. Feel like the 3S experience is, in my opinion, more fun. But that's also because I have more experience despite what this guy says. For someone who is either just getting into the hobby or doesn't have as much space as this wonderful warehouse right here with all the gaps that you could possibly want, it might be better just to bring it down to 2S. I was noticing with 2S, I was kind of right here on the throttle, which there's not a lot of, you don't have a lot of power there. But when you have a smaller environment, you don't need the power. But when you have a bigger-ish environment like this, I was probably around like 50%. And when I needed the power, as you saw with the dive gate and everything, I could just really go wild with it without any trouble. The battery is being so cheap because these small batteries don't cost a lot of money. So the nice thing is you can just get the same drone and buy a couple of batteries at both sides. And then, depending on what environment, just fly the correct battery. Personally, I think I would always just fly 3S. I think I'm with you that I would rather just get used to the more power and just learn to control myself and still be able to fly the smaller gaps. But if I was just starting out, it would probably calm things down a little bit. I'm gonna raise the camera til it's up just a little bit. I'm gonna try and just create a little bit of a race track in here and see what I can do with this quad. What are you glassing? Yeah. Oh, yeah, we got a little bit of a cable-broken light there. Probably a live circuit. All things aside, though, I could get very addicted to this because now it's got to feel like a bigger five-inch quad. Like, and then, the size of these elements I'm flying through, I'm flying around, I'm like, oh, this is like really fun because I can see everything and I saw the lights. I just, the timing was not there. But, like, you know, go up through the dive gate and whip back around in this speed and hear the sound and the feel of it. Like, it's really fun to fly. It's, I was like, okay, I'm gonna come up with a track. I'm gonna fly. I'm gonna get some footage for the episode. And I'm like, oh, give me another battery. Like, this is like, now I'm, like, hyped about racing. Like, this is sick.