 Boom, what's up fam Anthony dream John's Center today founder of 21 convention 22 convention See you the red man group founder of 21 studios 21 University and president of the fucking Manusphere some way some men put it or males beta males Should we say as they call it these idiots who try to hate on me and shit bunch of losers Anyway today, we have episode 145 of the red man group amazing show got in store for you two guests on today We're turning this show including John Anthony coach John Anthony from John Anthony lifestyles on YouTube and also Alex from playing with fire His channel is blowing up big he's cracked 60,000 subscribers I think like a week or two ago so fucking kick an ass before we get into the show bring the guests on we do have a quick Commercial sponsor here from my other company the 21 convention and 21 studios and that's the tickets are on sale Early bird tickets. 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That's okay subscribe on YouTube hit like appreciate your support there Without further ado, please a welcome to the show Alex playing fire coach John Anthony and from platinum dating system dot-com Awesome I'm from platinum dating system dot-com now Yeah, man. Yeah, I mean, it's I know you have it there anyway, so if you could be good, right? That's where you say let me change my name so people know who I am too Your website is your name your parents named you a website He looks like a platinum dating system dot-com type of kid So for those of you don't know they these guys both run the show before Alex from playing with fire is a big guy for like online dating stuff and John Anthony is pretty savage in that He has like probably the highest lay count in the entire man's sphere 1400 lays or something like that 1378 yeah loser So so you guys know that number is not only huge like the average American male The median lay count for a lifetime is like seven back in Paris So 1400 or 1378 is astronomically high and a lot of people don't like that especially like trad cons and shit But I think it's impressive. It's a real The perseverance and dedication a hard work to push push through for years and do that That's like Olympic level shit for pickup dude straight up. All you need is a high brand of local mind and lots of verbal abuse the child There you go. Yeah Anyway, today, it's one of kind of rapid you guys We had a really good show last time the last one we did together is probably like two months ago The three of us kind of kind of you know went around and talk shit on people made fun of people talk game You know talk talk shop. I also got to meet I meet Alex back and down to Miami recently when I interviewed covertate We got to have cigars and shit one night. Yeah, good times Yeah, it's cool man. Good mean up, you know face-to-face kind of shit, you know But both you can you talk to me about what's been going on your channels since we last spoke I mean you both have a good growth John. You're like 23 24,000 subs and Alex you cracked 60,000 recently, right? I was correct on that. Okay next up 100k. Yeah, man. Yeah Yeah, there's been a I've been more diligent with the video. So putting out videos almost every other day now Trying to cover a wide variety of topics Going after we did a recent video about how Vladimir Putin uses frame control very interesting video We got another one art. You said what is it who didn't use this frame control? Prudent Putin president. Oh president. Oh Vladimir Putin. Okay. I'm like what the fuck is Putin what yeah, cool He's a good at directing the conversation and manipulating people Trump. Yeah, Trump as well. Yeah, that was well That's going to be the next video actually probably So we're doing a lot of interesting content like that trying to grow the channel But unfortunately people don't really want to see like I just had a I was telling you guys at the group chat I had a doctor on Yesterday, he's one of the best in my opinion hormone doctors in the world I think he has a youtube channel with over 30,000 subscribers Highly in demand guy very intelligent very knowledgeable and men's health and just health in general You know went to school for like over 10 years. I got 30 live viewers What I had him on I have on some big titty porn star. I have over 200 Yeah, let's say let me I'll put out like it like something that gives away almost like the entire game And it'll it'll get like just a couple thousand views and I like make fun of like some idiot And I'll get just tens of thousands Dude, I'll all these dudes, especially the batemout police. I call them the BMP the batemout police They're like, oh, it's just so much drama. It's feminine drama. It's like bro. That's all you fucking tune into You're addicted to it. That's why they bitch about it. You know all this fucking bullshit They love it. You know everyone's like that, right? Oh all this drama on tv and the news like motherfucker Like that you're like it's a crack for you You're the people who bitch about it the most of the ones who are addicted to it the most, you know Hey, yeah My channel was growing like, you know pretty pretty solidly Since january when I was just like, you know going to a bunch of expose videos roast videos, etc Uh response videos and then I did like a month of pure value content to kind of like reset a benchmark and like the girls like Choked up The content's good, but like people it just doesn't like People want to see like the fucking carnage and the drama and the negative shit I'll send you guys too. If I've been sending you this tag thing I used to help on youtube and it helped a lot Yeah, rap tags. Yeah That helped a lot to start using it like november December and it's helped a lot since then it's still ups and downs man youtube is fucking retarded a lot of time They throttle shit all kinds of algorithm shit What hurts me is all my videos are demonetized like almost like pretty much almost a hundred percent So any new video like it just automatically gets demonetized I've shown videos where I scroll through every video on my channel Almost every single one's demonetized so that chokes off for the show too It's good. I swear a lot and talk about inappropriate shit, but whatever at this point they probably automatically demonetize you so it does Yeah, you probably make a video where you don't curse you just talk about jesus and you'll still get demonetized Yeah Why I have two channels this is stream on two channels right now 20 in studios to write the big one and the red man group the smaller one Which is like 15,000 16,000 subs I can upload the same video to both channels upload not even live stream right upload the same exact video 20 in studios will be green. It'll get a green money sign. That's fine. Right man group yellow instant yellow every time Like this is this is bullshit, bro Like they're they're treating the small channel like a little piece of shit and the big channel I think big channels get preferential treatment. Even if you're not 100% Yeah, it's the same thing with instagram It's the same thing with instagram if you have over a million followers You have different standards. That's why like certain chicks Uh, I can show like kim kordashian can show her ass and shit right versus a point star who has 100,000 followers She gets insta van Yeah, it's really retarded man. Like it's it is what it is I just keep fucking going and fighting and dragging along whatever the fuck happens I curse a lot too. Like, you know, anthony john anthony anthony johnson But uh, I love that. It's you know, people wonder sometimes like can you curse on youtube? I'm like, I don't fucking care. I never get any strikes either. Like they've never given me a single I never had a strike either. Yeah, I've had I've had a whole bunch I've had I've had multiple I've had multiple instances where I've had I've been down to the two out of three strikes And I have to like private all my controversial videos Which is a lot of them and I wait 90 90 days and just kind of like keep it pc for 90 days But that's because people people with false copyright strikes on things which I've threatened legal action back on them And that those different players Well, you're also super combative. I mean, I love conflict too, but you're just like a bulldog You got everyone man. I love it. You know, I love seeing it. Well dog mindset Yeah, yeah, yeah, he'll be 21 man bulldog. Yeah, he's gonna be there at least in the last day Maybe two days at an event. Yeah, are you doing it? I'm gonna be speaking there. Are you gonna be? Yeah, man. We talked about this on our last live stream. We're talking about doing a podcast before or afterwards Okay Yeah, the event still you know, I had it pulled up a minute ago My chick's birthday is like during the event. So I don't know how that's gonna happen gonna work if she wants to celebrate her birthday This is a major event too, man. Let's go out at night or something But all her friends are like, what a deal. We have greek gods speaking of it. Obviously we have Poseidon shit going on here So it's pretty dope, dude Yeah, the media is fucking snooping around too, man They follow the woman's event So whenever I announce shit for that like the guardian and like all that shit they're fucking snooping around the emails It's pretty funny What are the rules for the woman's event like uh, you said there's no men allowed, right? Or Yeah, pretty much there's no men. It's for women. So there's no men allowed at it I mean If a chick has like a husband, you know, he can go to it. I'm obviously go. I do it. It's all men speaking at it Number one Almost all men. I've just taken at it not to But now like the woman you if you're a chick you can't go to 21 convention. It's not for you If if you're chaperone like my sister can go and hang out because I'm like there if a speaker has a wife or a A girlfriend that's fine like john johnson has brought some tender trick last year I think he's dating now actually something on tampa. He's just pretty hot too. And I was like, oh, that's pretty good That's that's how you know someone has game is like the girls It's not a fat like a fatty, you know all these coaches with fatty girlfriends and the shit like that Dude, I saw you should have seen this morning. I found this patriarch, dude I fired him as a speaker because he's like a child beater. I found out But I I said yeah, I didn't tell me either before he spoke which is super fucked up Like he went he got arrested for like criminal child abuse and then fucking disclosed their shit He put a boot it's on the news He put his boot on this kid's head and got arrested for a boot print on the kid's face when school boot print on his head Right, didn't fucking tell me that shit But I found out his wife is like disgusting like worse than donovan's wife Like if donovan's wife's like a two or three this bitch is like a one This shit is gross. It's the worst one I've seen Like it's that bad. It's that fucking bad, bro I don't Go ahead That australian article that came out that was like talking about all the different pick up artists and stuff Where I where I gave like my input. She was like, do you she didn't publish this part? But she's like, do you regret calling these different guys girlfriends and wives like twos or threes? And I was like And I was trying to give politically correct answers most of the time But I was like no, I don't because yeah, like men have objective attraction circuitry Yeah, and I mean nothing against the woman personally. It's not a misogynistic statement either It's that we can all agree is men that this woman is below average. So yes, I can't say that. No, it's not offensive The truth matters, man The truth matters the truth is the truth and like you can give guys a little bit of wiggle room But a very small amount for personal preferences, you know at some point you have to be like no This is objectively ridiculous like yeah, I think you should be free to marry any kind of gross girl You want I just think that you if you marry a gross chick, you shouldn't be able to teach about game That's like that's like a caddy You have to retire from teaching if you're going to marry a gross Especially if you're going to hide it and lie about it, which you can't have both You can't have both you can either have the gross girl or you could have your fucking lofty pickup coach title Yeah, that that fit the the ugly wives and girlfriends that you I made that has like over 50 k v's now And I was looking I was looking at the other day. It has like 1.3 k likes and 1.3 k dislike. It's like who's disliking that It's like if you were to show like hey, here's this famous like how to make money Guru and he's actually homeless and here's all the records that he's homeless and like broke and everyone's like dislike dislike It's like Fuck out of here. It's not fair to expose his financial situation. Okay What are these guys doing? Like, you know, how are they experts when the girl's below average? It's mind-boggling to me to this day. I can't understand it How is most of the industry dating below average girls? Well, let's investigate the situation because it is an unbelievably fucked up And I'm sick of it like it's not even We're splitting hairs like oh, she's a 7 she's a 7 5 she's a 9 she's a 3 So let me say this and you guys I think especially john you've been around a long time in uh, Pua community alex you found it in 2012 or something Yes, i'm back 2012 so even since the 2000s I noticed way back in the top layer days and the mystery method forms and all I should say way back from like Oh 607 dudes would like even in real life you go out and win some win with some dude who's like sucked But at least he could approach her try and he'd be like, yeah, she's like a 8 I approached the idea over there and she blew him out. It's like No, man, that girl has a bunch of makeup on as a push-up bra and she's like a 5 or 6 like you're fucking delusional Oh the inflated ratings. Yeah inflated ratings. Yeah, it's so it's been consistent for 15 I've been in this for 15 fucking years. That shit has been consistent since day one It's in the red pill too. It's the same fucking thing. They're delusional inflation It's so true when we when we post when I go through the forms And people say yeah, I think this uh six or the the joke we have is like, okay So it was a three like whatever the number of the person says it's three points lower. Yeah, I think to say it Okay, so she was just average. Yeah, I think this 10. Okay, so she was somewhat cute Yep Yeah, it's I think here's my theory on it. Let's see what you guys think I think that basically these chodes and these betas they have Assuming they're even talking to them or I have to do anything They have like an upper ceiling like a glass ceiling like a feminist bitch about And their glass ceiling is like like the best they could do and their best game on the best day of the year If they're fucking hammered and like super confident or something, right? It's like a seven or an eight. That's the absolute pinnacle of what they could bang in real in life, right? Absolutely fucking pinnacle So that I think is what caps it and that's why to them like Like a five is like a seven or an eight because their their fucking system is not zero to ten It's like zero to like six or seven and like a seven if the dude's like a three or four And he has shit game that him banging like a six or seven would be like absolutely fucking, you know Enlightenment like he has reached the pinnacle of human life Banging a relatively average looking girl. So I think that's why they do it It's like eights and nines and tens are not even they don't even exist to them, right? They don't even it's not even in the realm of possibility Even if they're and they talk shit on them and they say those girls suck those girls are all bitches Those girls aren't worth dating in this and all these other stupid myths. Yeah, I'm like in the process I've been compiling like To show like more data stuff I'm going to show like all my main girls and and monogamous girlfriends over the past decade Because I've always had the standard of having them be a nine plus for over 10 years And they have to be a bunch of qualities internally as well It's not just pure looks But as a standard you have to be a nine plus to be the main rotation girl or to be a monogamous girlfriend So really in every every different city that I had like in vegas was like a serbian model in Portugal was like a brazilian stripper and In poland it was like a 19 year old like former playboy ukrainian chick Um like here. It's the girl. I bring on my channel Who's like an engineer but like in each of the cities? It's not that hard if your game is good and you're supposed to be a guru or a master The thing is the same guys have ugly girlfriends also as you're in field also have zero receipts Also talk and abstract who will nonsense terms And and you just watch five minutes of any of their technical game videos And you I for a guy like myself can see immediately that they know that they're just talking out of their ass But since mostly guys don't know what they're these guys Most of the guys don't know real game theory anyways And there's a lot of like bad misinformation being propagated That people don't know how to fact check these guys anyways is the other big problem I've even seen uh the fraud father uh Rollery go after cobertate and bang and cobertate the girls he bangs he bangs hot tricks like straight up No, they're porn stars for him or whatever sometimes and sometimes not who cares But he's not banging fat of the woman. I asked him to his face I was like, do you fucking the old fat woman? He's like, no, I'm fucking the old fat woman But these days you have you have to ask any kind of fucking old fat Oh, of course not, of course not. Yeah, but I said to troll him. I love fucking like that But there's there's so many fucking fake dating experts. You have to actually ask that question like straight up Like do you fuck do you two do let me ask both of you Danny? Do either of you fucking the old fat woman just straight up yes or no question For me for me there was there was like quality discrepancy. I think like the first hundred like we're being real In the first hundred Yeah, it was debatable for sure As I got better it the average quality went up and there's always still like that in one night where you dip a little bit But the average quality if you like graph it out kind of all scientifically like it kept going up But you know, it's crazy to me. I don't know if you guys have this phenomenon when I first meet a girl She starts off being when there's a novelty factor So she's a first she's an eight once I keep banging her she goes down to seven and then a six point five No, dude, that's a real thing I've talked to a lot of advanced guys about this because my other friends that are that are in the multi hundred late count We're always talking about like this phenomenon Like you'd rather you'd rather bang like a new eight than like the same nine like over and over and over and over And there's like evolutionary roots that I remember Atticus was telling me about it Like your body just responds the most to a new partner So yeah, new sex can be fucking dope man Some of the best sex in my life has been same at lay is to just get wild Like you're fucking like six hours straight or like whatever the fuck's going on. I can't say everything on camera, but What I'm trying to make is that I have to like you have to start a bit higher than whatever your I guess glass ceiling is because it's going to go down So if I was to marry a chick she would have to start off as a nine or 10 because Eventually she's going to go down to a seven or eight for me So if you start with like a six like she's going to be a three or four Well, let's be real too scientifically Now this is not science. This is more like manuscript stuff I think both you will agree that men in the manuscript for a while We've been saying that men age like wine so you kind of get a little better and more refined as you age You become more masculine become wiser. Yeah, women age like milk. They fall apart and physically it's true I heard the yeah, I heard the stats yesterday on my mentorship call Some guy like had the had the stats that you just looked up and women are supposed to be in their prime at 23 and men are in their prime at 38. I'm turning 38 in october Yeah, man, and then and then for men also that it's they stay like relatively like at their highest point There's like a very slow drop off even into like the mid 50s Yeah, so and that like carries me right into like the singularity destroying civilization At least virtual sex, you know becoming very prevalent paradigm shifting Well, it becomes it's beyond that for women though physically even without even getting the singularity stuff Like their skin their skin ages faster than ours a wrinkles faster because it's thinner It's ours is designed to actually withstand being like hit and cut and stuff and heal faster, right? Our collagen is thicker on our skin, and if you're healthy, then it's fucking you don't age Yeah, that's the thing is all the aging regimens like me I think this is all assuming the man takes care of himself, which yeah, that's that 20% of guys do Like most guys will go downhill as they age It's only small some second men like if you go to the gym you eat healthy Probably, you know at some point you have to do hormone optimization I just think there's no way around it like when you're in your 40s at the very least Like you're gonna have to do TRT to get the testosterone of a younger guy Not necessarily I know tony bruno a buddy of mine that you guys have seen on my channel a couple times It's his testosterone still like in the 700s, and he's like 58 years old. Yeah, that's like my It is unusual though. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's the exceptions, of course And my dad I'm sure has pretty high testosterone because he's still pretty ripped and he's 56 But I think there's like exceptions. Yeah, it is what it is I know for me though you guys both went to high school Obviously right growing up so did I almost everybody I've known since high school chicks and guys both they all get like We'll get fat and then maybe lose weight and then they get fat again These are these cycles they call like a yo-yo to go up and down the chicks Of course end up being single moms and shit to get wiped up or not even wife be a knock up not even wiped up, right? It's all it's all fucking disastrous. They all know being fucking losers a lot of time But it's the fatness that's amazing to me because like I've not been like that at all My whole family where I get my family of origin. They're all very prone to obesity and so am I But I've not been fat since I was like 16. I like lost it and I fucking kept it off ever since But most people don't do that They just get even if they're you know doing well in life making money or whatever They just get fat and lose it a little bit and get fat and fatter and fatter and fatter And that's it to me as a server. It's unnecessary. It's completely fucking ridiculous Uh, I don't know neither of you look like you've been fat. I don't know. No, I've never been I've always been prone to skininess. So I've always I've been an ectomorph So for me, I've been very skinny at once in my life But uh, yeah, I don't think it would be possible for me to become fat even if I tried Yeah in college I was like 155 pounds in college at six four Damn And now I'm like I I vary between like 200 and 220 now like playing on the Balkan cutting But I think the closest I ever was to fat was when I like did a dirty ball with uh With Sonny Arvato in like 2019 or 2018 or so if you're seeing some of my old videos Because I was just like taking these like weight gainers And it was just like shit loads of like extra carbs And I was basically like overeating and I was drinking like efficient stuff too. I just got like bloated up and stuff I don't want to ask you uh, so you're 64. That's this really tall like I'm barely 510 I say 511 511 the internet 510 in real life What's that like 1% I google it in the u.s. It's 1% of people are or 64 Easy. Yeah, even number six foot's unusual. It's like Top 5% or 10% like it's unusual But anyway, I want to ask you like how do you think that has affected your game and your ability to bang a lot of women Like obviously, it's a good thing being taller in short So what do you what do you thought something tall like I'm Guys always ask me that and I never had good game when I before I had my growth spurt Which was like end of high school um But I've taught tons of clients that were short that I've gotten into the multi hundred lay count So just using them as reference like it's it's not I'm not a coach says it looks don't matter The height doesn't matter and this he doesn't matter the thing is it just doesn't matter nearly as much as guys think Like if a guy's in his 40s That'll be some girls have a problem with your age, but it's not going to be nearly as many It's not going to be anything significant or if a guy is like Asian or Indian and western culture Maybe some girls might have an issue with that but but tons won't right or the height thing So it's more of like the most important thing is not to let those things handicap you in your own mind Because then you come in like defeating yourself before you even had a chance And it becomes like a self-fulfilling prophecy guys and it comes in all shapes and sizes guys will go in I've had on live programs all my hairlines are seeding and they think every girl's staying at their hairline and every Every blowout negative reaction is because of the hairline and every guy has like their own like silver bullies in their head They're like oh, I'm not getting results because of this And then and then they're like well see look it's because I'm short right so Yes, some girls are gonna like care about guys being shorter, especially when they're wearing heels But there's still tons of other hot girls There was I just saw this chick today on instagram was like a 10 with it and she was kind of short The dude's like her height, you know, but he was like muscular. So if you're shorter Lift weights and you know optimize what you can in your control. Don't don't just give up because you're Because you're short and use the platform shoes too Do you think it's more important to actually You think it's actually important to be tall or is it the feeling that women get from you being tall? You know, I mean like it's the dom they feel like a dominance thing because you're so fucking tall automatically, right? It's not like big tits like big tits the girl could be a fucking piece of shit They see big tits and you're like, oh nice, you know So do you think it's like feeling they get or is it like I've thought that for a while being tall as a guy Is they having big tits as a girl? It just is what it is, you know, you got lucky. Congratulations. You know I'm being jacked as like a girl having a fat ass Yeah, something like that. Yeah um, I don't know I don't I don't I don't know how much I would Would attribute to that it definitely helps I think guys should be playing with like a lot of the smv stuff in there in their control But like to be fair I didn't really work on my smv at all through the majority of my leg count or very minimally Like I was like fairly skinny through most of my leg count and I just kind of like Compensated for that by just wearing jeans jeans and a button down like if I wear a jean Like I'm in like pretty good shape now But if I wear jeans and a button down it doesn't look a whole lot different than when I was wearing jeans A button down before I used to wear a lot of coats Like if I was in like New York or Philadelphia or whatever I would and I found my game like would perform slightly better I think when I had a coat on but that might have been my head. I'm not sure but but basically like, you know I didn't start like just recently like in the past six months. That's when I did like the Botox eye bag fillers hair transplant teeth whitening You know the hair transplants within like two three months are like imperceptible, but this will all be back. It's permanent Um, see I can't wrinkle my forehead get that done every six months The eye bag thing will be re-upped in like a month But like I got people thought I was like 27 about a week ago I usually get between like 27 32 or 33 But I'm gonna be 38 in october and there's other guys that are my age that look like they're like 50 They're like, you know, like they're they just they just let themselves go Yeah Yeah, I started trt like two years ago or so And and for those like a lot of people think like all that steroids or this and that all it's doing is putting your your hormone levels back to where they're supposed to be back to like where they were when in your late teens early 20s So if you do it through an endocrinologist and they're monitoring, you know The levels you're just putting things back into an optimal because we're not meant to live much past 30 biologically So a lot, you know, the the the testosterone falls off a cliff like the other hormone was a dh ea or something like that Yeah, it's not steroids like steroids are different than doing it through a doctor and it's a lot of shit, too A lot of the bodybuilders Yeah, it's it's yeah, that's the one of the things that gets confused in the pickup red pill nanosphere, whatever the difference between Yeah, to stop trt and steroids Oh, you're bringing on a big top dictionary. Yeah, it's on the link. Yeah, I think it'd be fun to shoot the shit You guys get along right? He's uh, I've asked a lot of guys. I have no issue with that guy We we different worldviews, but he's respectful. He brought me on his channel and didn't didn't attack anything and he was respectful And um, and I like that he goes after a lot of these fuckers as well Yeah, but you know, I don't have anything. I don't have any beef with that guy So I know I know he's got other guys I think I think he like they like snuck bulldog. I think when they brought him on the show, but Yeah, I did think that was pretty fucked up, but it's not from that. Yeah, he's all right. Yeah, they call them They call them horse-faced minds that are some shit Well, what others, uh, I mean, I like John a lot of bulldog, but I don't know why he stayed on that podcast I would have I know I know man. I've been like, you know, fuck off man, dude. He stayed on there for like six hours What are you doing? Putting up with this Dude, I don't have the patience for that. I can I can do an hour or two, but that's it man That's like a fucking movie. Well, he a long movie right two hours maybe two and a half. It's super long yet But I like The podcast I did with the black pill guy Uh, no, I saw it came up. I'm subscribed to your channel But I I just it's hard because there's like none of not of time to like fit in business and girl stuff and gym and like martial arts All this stuff. So I don't there's not like a whole lot of extra free time But I'm like shifting things around in my company to free up more time Um, but yeah, I saw it pop up with face in lms. I know sonny used to be a big fan of that guy You would get a kick out that one. Yeah, we get into a big What's like a summary there because you said there was like a healthy debate, but what was what was like the main Yeah, I mean, well, so the black pill argument the argument that he gave is that face basically SMV and especially I even so much like status and body Is what determines everything and that for example, if you're a guy who's like a five or six or four or whatever You're basically fucked. Um I get guys They hate these arguments. I know a guy blah blah blah But since I've coached I've coached thousands of guys now over the past 10 years and I'm like a data analyzer I kind of have it like compartmentalized. I sign up guys weekly that are like tall and jacked that that are like We just had a guy in spain. He looks like a male model. He's in like terrific shape tattoos Like perfect face And he's been with like two girls and he was like dude. It was total luck. I have no idea what i'm doing Um, and he said his friends are all perplexed and it's just that he like fucks up the cold approaches He fucks up the texting when he does happen to get past the texting to a date. He fucks that up And it's not just I look at this guy right here I'm six one is so hard to get girls like I believe that shit, dude That's not magic pill being good looking or being tall. They just don't suck And and like the vast story of my clients are like average looking or maybe a little above average looking And I get lots of them on tracks do 50 to 100 a year That doesn't mean that looks don't matter. It's just that the strategy part of the equation is definitively the majority of the of the equation Is what is what I found because I have so much data Regardless of guys looks or I've even gotten lots of like ethnic guys or short guys, you know into multi underlay count It's it's not the definitive factor. That doesn't mean that they have the same chances If all think if their game was equal they have the same chances No, the guy with the better looks would would have a better shot But guys can still get the day in life of their dreams with proper game unless they you know I had one guy to be fair who had like a deformed face from a car accident And he actually was like nobody wanted to match him on tinder and he's like you told me I you know still maybe they'll get results and You know he was just like all upset and I but that's just because his face was deformed But like if that's extreme that's an extreme case, you know, so Yeah, you have extreme cases avid like the bottom two percent Yeah, those guys unfortunately for better for worse like they're fine What my advice for those guys is to make a lot of money Get and bang sugar babies because that's that's really what those guys Those guys are an extreme minority like most guys who think they fall into that category. They're really not they're just a little overweight They just have a bad haircut Yeah, I'm gonna jump in here with something I think both you'll appreciate So we're talking about the inflation that these man is for you guys, right? They all this bullshit, right with how they view girls and rate them ridiculous You know, totally delusional evaluations the same our girls are delusional a lot of time and evaluating themselves, right? They'll have some some fat fives some friendly file will fuck some dude is like an eight Because he's just chad zilla doesn't give a fuck and then she thinks she like deserves aids. It's like bitch. You're not even close But here's what I think Uh, you know, oh, yeah So here's what I think the real test of game is like if a dude is a four Objectively or a five on a scale one to ten and that's hard for us to determine because we're not gay Like I can't I don't know it's hard to look sometimes you can try but it's like you're not There's no, you know, you're not the opposite sex and evaluating it, you know I don't need to do that. But I think that's really the test of how good his game is is can he punch at so to speak at his own weight class Or above a little bit So if you're if the dudes of five and he can bang sixes and sevens, that's really good, man Like you're not banging any dines and tens who cares like you're if you're a five You're doing really good. That means you have skill means you have game means you've worked at it It means you're putting in the effort where it counts So that's me The dating coach is this is where at these frauds, right? These these fake dating acts were losers if bang, you know, fuck old fat women all day long, right? That's all they do They're they're a lot of them when I first met the sharp mama Back in the day the first thing I thought I was like, why the fuck is he with this chick? He could he could fuck better if I was in his body with my game. I could fuck hotter women than this dude Why is he with this chick? It was it was confusing to me. I wasn't thinking big pictures too tired I was like an hour of fucking sleep when I met them, right? But I'm like, why is he with this chick and I didn't realize he was such a fucking loser, obviously But that to me signals that he has no game on top of that because he can do He's not I mean they make they make fun of him to saying he looks like a rat or something We're just pretty funny and probably true But He could definitely bang better and that that's just to me is why he's a fucking loser. Anyway, we got md on too We can pull in What's up, bro? Hey, what's up, man? How you guys doing? Doing good, man. Welcome. I was curious to ask you about I saw I think it was like Modern life dating. Uh, people are saying like your true identity is revealed. Is that bullshit or what is that about? They can say whatever they want, man. I look at it this way, right? They say things so people will forget that he takes pictures of children While they aren't looking he's a child predator And I've already spoke with lawyers law enforcement, you know It comes to a point I was making a transition to go into a more wisdom type channel and knowledge because people see that, you know That's where I come from And you know, I wrote the book the 48 laws of dating and I stand by every law that's in there because it's scientific, right? Now the dating coaches or the real social dynamics, whatever guys want to call themselves They have to make a position either. They're going to be the supporter of a child predator like modern life dating John hotwood Are they going to be a man? So whatever they want to do with, you know dating and relationships That's up to them as long as the person is over 18 You know, and this is where I draw the fucking line because I'm just tired of this shit, you know I will like these motherfuckers asses on fire with truth I spoke I have an interview coming up with law enforcement specialist FBI special, I mean he put a federal employee. He doxxed his own clients So that's another thing too dating coaches or whatever to what they want to do that I that that is, you know Agreeable or not agreeable the line has to be drawn. You don't dox your clients You don't take pictures of fucking children and you don't support people that take pictures of children You call that shit out. John hotwood is a child predator and the truth is never slander Never slander. So it's beyond that man. There's a woman. There's a woman beaters and child beaters and the man is for two And I'm going after them lately a little bit. I'm going to be making a whole documentary on that And I'm thank you so much for putting out that uh That clip because I'm using that, you know, hopefully with your permission I'm in shock, you know, uh talking about beating women dirty eddy. I mean it has to be drawn there You don't tell guys to beat women or you would not critique that you don't take pictures of children What happened there? Can you guys do you guys there's a clip of uh of him just ranting about how he would like beat a girl Oh, yeah, we should watch it. You guys want to watch it? Let's pull that shit up It's unreal I've seen his channel go down like three separate Because he's winning the peels he's appealing it probably it's it's weird. Yeah, I don't know what the fuck I don't know why youtube is granting him the peels. He always he always blames me too every fucking time he blames me, right? I'm gonna get the fuck out of here, bro This is your own dumb shit like your crypto shit and your fucking woman beating shit Like you're fucking this is like the fourth channel. He's lost two. He's fucking idiot Hang on. Let's pull up the uh Put up the woman beaters shit. Oh, here we go. You guys ready? Okay, I was just thinking You haven't seen this on tactics advice Fucking scumbags of the ministry. No, I haven't seen this Yeah, so it's like it's 13 minutes long. So we're just gonna watch the first like 30 seconds But uh, it actually gets worse past the opening someone pulled up And uh, let's see here. All right. We've got audio on this too, right? I think we got audio on this Let me make sure Is he on steroids? Can you guys hear that? No, I think the audio is off. Do you have it uploaded to your stream yard videos? No, but I can get the audio on it When you do the when you do the share me now extreme this other day when you do the share, there's an option to include the audio It'll work. Hang on a second. I can get this. It's easier to do it as well I'm the same but I can get it this way crack the stream yard code Really man, anthony johnson deserves a lot of credit for bringing this out man The people that are calling out, you know, not everybody's gonna agree on everything But there's certain things that we agree on and you know that you know, you the line is drawn You know Advocating women and beating and all of that. No, okay. We got the audio. We got the audio and thank you man. I appreciate that It's it's sick. What's going on this community room clean it up. So here we go. Here we go. You ready? I would have knocked her fucking teeth into the back of her throat I would have fucked her up in front of everybody Give me a 10 year dude. Give me a 10 in your prison sentence, man Donovan will attempt to report this. They don't get hang on it gets better man. Is he more fucked up? It's it's sick. I had to gave her a fucking shiner. I had to call my lawyer paul pal. Yeah, paul I just gave my fucking I just broke my fucking girl's orbital bone. Yeah Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're gonna need to get on down to the station I would have hauled off and I would have just decked her I would have made damn sure that she never talked that way to me again. Can you pause real quick? Yeah, this shit's unreal. This guy has a whole bunch of like people that look up to him That's the that's the other big problem because then guys are gonna fucking learn from from this, you know No respect for guys who are acting tough when it comes to girls Like the uh, the kickouts when it's just like the girls they're like try kicking a fucking like Jack dude, I just it's to me that shit is so lame. It's like Oh, yeah picking like a little kid like oh like, uh, yeah, like a little Johnny over here like Yeah, I don't know. I have like no respect for that shit Yeah, let's get some more let's get some more thoughts on that though. We just saw a guy advocating beating women on video What was the context there? The context with her saying something to him so if a woman no matter what she says to you, you know Um, I would even go as far as to say if she threw a drink in somebody's face I mean, you don't punch her to knock her I mean, that's ridiculous And um, you know, it's part of being a man, you know, I mean now of course if she's coming at you with a weapon I mean me myself. I study martial arts so I can understand Yeah, how to take a weapon away how to wrestle and grapple with somebody. I mean I met the graces in the 90s So I've been practicing for a while. That's what martial arts Defend yourself, you know now all these guys threaten Yeah, they oh, I'll punch him in his face all this suddenly now that they try, you know, suddenly now I said, okay, so this is a video of someone you're saying is me Well, here here's a picture of that guy in the video and I put hogwood next to him I said, we're all these threats So we're all these threats because when he came to new york, I said, hey The one person I met in real life was alpha male lifestyle armor met wally He created me tout out tv's a genius as far as computers and a wonderful person on top of that And he said, hey, you know what md is who he says he is he's a he's a guy he he's six three He goes, you know, he's about we're about an inch difference in height. He's in good shape And what I forgot myself is he goes, you know what he pulled out his veterans id So he is a united states army veteran to get us two free tickets into the museum of metropolitan art on 86 streets in Manhattan and You know because they try to say oh He's he's not a veteran and this and felon or they better hope i'm not a felon because maybe my foot will be in his ass The problem is that hogwood probably like that. He'd probably fucking like that I've never threatened anybody on youtube or in real life But these guys even even horse face mindset threatened me. I said, yeah, you think what you're telling me I wouldn't say to your face That I know is insinuating that if I did that you would do something physical And I will do it to your face There's not a problem. I'm gonna speak. I will speak louder and say whatever I feel And I still don't have a problem with him because he's one of the less Confrontative ones, but I did feel that he was sent by rola tamasi Uh and richard cooper because they're the ones that they run these guys And you know and and you know they have to be called out and and I commend anthony for calling them out I commend other guys, you know who call them out People are gonna do what they want to do But you know and and I'm not going to criticize it anymore. So as soon as I go Into the next channel, I'm going to make these last two documentaries about the woman beaters and the uh child predators like john hogwood And um, there was a oh, yeah the other guys there's guys in the manuscript that advocate the grape You know the four snuggles and um and on on camera. I got the audio I got the audio So, you know their picture will be behind that and this is when because when somebody Criticizes the atmosphere if people don't call it out that everybody gets lumped into that basket Well, why didn't you say? Silence is consent at that point. Who are the guys who are advocating that? Uh, I I didn't want to say his name at the moment. He's going, you know, he's so despicable I mean this guy's so fucking despicable and he's on 90 percent of the community. Yeah, yeah, exactly So, you know, I mean and it's it's up. Uh matter of fact is a channel He was blackpill studies. He calls himself Hogwood after hogwood's mother because you know, of course that guy's a piece of shit that docks his people's addresses Like his former clients. Um, and that channel has I think where he was he put the text comments where he said rake doesn't hurt women a rake doesn't hurt women and um Uh, he also advocated it, you know, he did it once in the chat and she even boom boom banned him Funny enough. I don't speak with them either. It's so much people that These guys are like I said before they're not Men they're they're males, you know, it takes majority to be a pause here because initially john anthony asked the context of this video with Donovan talking about beating women and you everyone can go watch it's 13 minutes long. Talks about beating men, too Here's what I think number one. These are not out of context. These are some of these are pretty long He talks very openly about the stuff, right? I think though what he's he reminds me of like some kid in high school who talks like a lot of shit And has never been in a fight never done anything Uh, even he's talked about being in all these fights getting arrested. That's all nonsense We never found any arrest records of donovan getting arrested for fighting or edwin It's all like financial identity theft check fraud like all this dumb shit larceny. That was fucking stupid shit, right? Sketchy ass shit that he doesn't want people to know about but it's all public record, right? You can look it up So I think a lot of it is actually not I think most are all but it's not even real He's just like type talking like hyper tough because these beta males are so fucking dumb and they're so fucking A lot of the time they're so broken. They believe this shit and this to them is like alpha behavior And it's not this is pathetic diesel behavior A dude who's never been in a fight like it's very obvious guys, you know how to fight. Don't talk like this period I'll be super embarrassed if there's like a clip of me like doing that Even if it wasn't talking about beating a girl it was just like kind of posturing like alpha It's hard. I just never have respect for that shit It's half posturing about beating up women and half posturing about beating up men like imaginary men Like if he talks he's like if some dude came up to me in the street, I'd fucking beat his ass Bubba, but it's like you've obviously never been in a fight. You talk about beating up women For for what calling you a name like this is fucking delusional. I have hundreds of videos on my channel I don't have a single phrase in there about beating anyone's ass. We go dude. Yeah They have an army of trolls too h e h in the chat. He's a troll. He's on discord doxing people So and he tries to come in here. Oh md's the next now. We know you're a troll h each age and and uh You know he tries to make his little funny thing I've been calling out all of these trolls because they follow people around they're afraid of us speaking truth You know, they're afraid of us speaking truth I mean Everybody's gonna have some type of difference and that's great because it shows we're thinking for ourself You know, so, you know, you're gonna say hey some guys are doing this some guys are doing that But there's one thing we all have in common We don't support anyone taking pictures of people's children. We don't support woman beating We don't support forced snuggles. Uh, I mean, Tony Bruno Child beating too man. This is a child beaters around Exactly exactly. Yeah, you're absolutely ahead about about tony brunner though. He's watching right now He said, uh, I think it was michael forster on his uh, he came on his stream and I met him really cool guy Uh, he said that there was a guy I think it was in the church and they called him taking pictures Of a young girl and he took the phone They all surrounded him. I think and they took the pictures off and I asked him what he would do You know, if he saw hogwood, he goes well, you know, I'm not you know I knew he was playing it safe on camera, you know, and he goes that phone would be mine You know, and I'm like, thank you. Thank you for you know being real about that just for starters. Yeah, exactly exactly No, I mean, I see I see your point. Uh, I was watching your stream with a bulldog mindset And again, I was saying this earlier. I like john I did think that you guys were pretty dickish to him But all that aside, I I don't understand why he didn't just say like, yeah, taking pictures of kids is fucked up Like that could have ended the whole argument Like the more an hour debate that you guys said could have been ended with him just saying Yeah, of course taking pictures of little kids is fucked up. I wouldn't do it. I don't encourage it Blah blah blah. They have argument over it. Exactly. I don't know why they didn't take like a strong stance It's all I was asking for that's all I was asking for for any of them. I was like, hey, I'll just leave everything alone Just say this just just ex-communicate this child predator. Jonathan hogwood. That's all you need to do Well, here's the good news. Here's the good news. Hang on So recently mld was supposed to do some sort of meetup down near alex in miami Uh some hot dude con which is like the gayest thing ever it Yeah, I saw a picture of that on instagram. It was like four ball dudes and like some gay bar But but hang on he posted but he posted a picture He posted a promotional thing of rollo was supposed to be there who was in miami at the time the fraud father Here's what's interesting is rollo the fraud father never showed up As far as I know, right? Why didn't he show up? Why does any if if if mld weirdo child stalker pedo would is going to brag about on instagram or whatever The fraud father hanging out with him a miami and the fraud father was a miami. Why the fuck didn't he go, right? He didn't go So I think what's happening is that number one rollo the fraud father is a narcissist npd clinical like 100% right? That's my view. It's been that i'm not a doctor, but that's been my view for a long time Those kind of people are users and abusers They do what they use and discard male or female. They both do it use and discard use and discard They find the next fucking victim to be the little bitch That's what the fraud father does. It's what he tried to do to me He didn't understand me and then he got his fucking ass whipped. He got exposed this huge fraud loser All right, boot it out embarrassed. I got excited when you said he got his ass whipped I was like who beat rollo's ass. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we'll see right what I'm I'm not uh, I'm not a talk I'm not gonna talk tough on youtube about Uh, like donovan some loser, but whatever happens happens, right? Life's uh life start like complicated like that Anyway, my point is the fraud father I think he's I think he's at the discarding point of the of mld I think mld has become so toxic because he stalks children and should like takes pictures of kids and shit I think he's beginning to abandon mld because he mld was basically an attack dog Like his little bitch for a long time to go fuck the people on youtube and shit, right? So rollo didn't have to that's how we're a lot. He always uses a buffer, right? Whether it's mld or rich cooper or someone else. He's always using a buffer mechanism So I think he's done with mld and I think everyone's gonna abandon mld now I think it's it's what's gonna happen naturally because he's so fucking toxic. It's so obvious, you know So I think that's slowly happening. You know, it's been ridiculously slow to happen Yeah, I think it's so cringe too. I don't I just don't understand how people like like his video He starts off the first three minutes of sin bragging about how awesome he is. Yeah The smartest guy ever on the best I do think rich cooper did an interview with him recently or a live stream with him Yeah, so, you know rich just has no morals. He's in a gutter Simp is rich is obsessed with money. He's completely obsessed with money That's how that's a rollo plays cooper He just plays him for money and then that's how I was able to win too though When rollo was trying to use cooper to rollo use cooper to attack me in public That video still up to go He's defaming my convention saying it's unsafe. We're gonna get shot. What kind of dumb shit, right crazy What they did you totally wrong man? It was totally wrong. It's like you look at that and it's like that back stabbing Behavior that they exhibited I was like you gotta be kidding but cooper but cooper fucked rollo because rollo the fraud father wanted cooper to buy me out of red man group And I was like, hey rollo. That's a great idea. I'm gonna buy cooper out and there's emails of this I can show you guys and rollo's like no, no, no, no, no, no Cooper's not by you. I didn't think I'm like no, no, no, no. I'm gonna buy cooper out. Thanks rollo It's a great idea and rollo got really pissed off and then cooper he bit for the money because cooper was like cooper Cooper's kind of associate path for money, right? He's all about money money money And I'm like, I have the money How about I give you money and you go away and when I get control of the red man group Which rollo had to sign off on it was hysterical. This is all like legit like attorneys and shit I'm like, this is fucking funny and cooper didn't give a fuck I think rollo was pissed at him for a while, but it is what it is So you guys all own one third of the business and basically rollo's plan was to Kind of excommunicate you but it wound up working the other way because you bought The rollo not enough money to buy out cooper Uh, I don't think so. No, not at the time. I mean, maybe he's always broken shit People say he's getting foreclosed on his house. I don't know, but he's a fucking retard. I mean a hundred percent How does he go broke with with the book? I mean, he should be how to make him more than enough money from the royalties I know that he's been supporting his mother-in-law for a long time like she lived with him for like 10 12 years He bought her house in florida. I think I kind of sympathize with that. Yeah Yeah, he's just he's I think his wife just runs his ass like all these fucking So I don't think his wife's a bad lady. By the way, you guys have gone after I've told you guys like lead that shit alone But rollo's definitely a huge beta male rollo's a massive bit gamma male beta male and no one understands this They actually the rollo has zero fucking game. He's a complete fucking goofball Socially awkward socially retarded to put it nicely I've met this guy a lot in real life and it's increasingly the more you hang out with them more Obviously this is completely fucking game retard. It doesn't have basic social skills Like you can't even he has no friends too on top of that if you read his whole blog His whole fucking blog your rational male is all his books. He has no male friends Never ever ever ever ever talks about having friends. He's been fucking happening because he's fucking weird, uh Yes, that's that's that's so bad. It is dude. It's so bad. It's terrible. His friends are his guitars Yeah, and he has little figurines and he's a fucking weirdo It is what it is But yeah, anyways, that's how I got our arm g and the purpose too of rollo doing that is he wanted to create the red man summit And kill off 21 What is what he keeps trying with rule zero summit all this fucking crap It's all been a scheme for years to kill off my company because it's so good and it's a it's a it's a As an organization of speakers and personalities It's a threat to his dominance that he was working on for years in the man's sphere I think the secret gama king fucking It's it's so bad, dude. It's this whole community is like just so fucked up. We got to fix it dude We got to just drain everything I think the problem though is for like the average person because it's like tribes, right? So there's like whatever your tribe and then let's say there's the role of tribe and then yeah It's like if you fall objective truth doesn't matter if you're in this tribe You're gonna believe what this person says Is this the same thing as politics like which team are you on? There's not a lot of independence Well now it's become I think it's a healthy split now though Because now the community is being divided into frauds or like genuine grassroots So there's a grassroots man's sphere and guys who actually care about all these issues And then there's frauds who just want to prey on men and kind of like politics He keeps getting more polarized their thing is actually a really good thing The all these frauds need to go away. They need to fall apart They need to like loser channels go bankrupt get divorced from their fat ugly old wives. That's all gonna happen I mean, do you think the sharp mamas will be married to this old fat lady forever? No, he's using them for money and eventually she's gonna divorce his ass or whatever break up with them Steal as much fucking money as she can and he's gonna be crying go sell you his cars again That's how life works that a guarantee is gonna happen I mean see what is it? What's gonna happen happily ever after with this old fat lady in a fucking way not a fucking chance? Yeah It seems like they're both either gonna be sitting there doing the drugs together because she's probably like the next crack head You know the stripper pole And there's even a worse one that just betrayed us We we put her hand out, you know We hey you can come on the show and which was a mistake Carolina and she tried to flaunt and show herself so I showed a picture of her I didn't think somebody could look worse than uh, donovan sharp's wife But carolina does you know and um, of course, you know, no kids and all of that But you know, I'm just gonna let her go and start making peace with a lot of people if uh, Jay tahoe comes on tonight, you know, I kind of I kind of did go a little harsh on him because you know I figured okay. He was leaving comments, uh with this beef going on on carolina stuff You know, I don't have a problem with speaking with uh bulldog if we ever speak with I mean The time he came on with his uh girlfriend and she just started to um You know go off, you know, and I'm saying I didn't I thought they were trolls in the chat poodle mindset and bulldog mindset I said that can't be the real Yeah I do like these uh sinning them, uh, whatever pseudonyms you come up with sometimes No, well actually we we used to call him that but she came on as poodle mindset So I'm thinking it's a troll and then she comes on camera And she goes oh this stream is so boring this and that so I was like hey screw you, you know And I threw off and then bulldog came on and she's sitting next to him But he looked like he was like I don't know on a xanax or something and then later on he says he was you know on a like some uh Delta h uh cannabis candy or something But she literally was saying look I got his bowls right here in my hand, you know my purse because I go Yeah, you know, he's not saying nothing in a catatonic state But um, you know, I'm still not angry with him. I figure there's no sense to get angry It's just to say all right. Look like anthony said there's gonna be a division Fruits and no it's you know people will support child predators and people who don't you know people who Women being you know people who don't so and that's where it's at, you know Everybody's gonna have different things, but at least we're not there on that side of it. We're on the right side Yeah How like We're all together on the stream because I would say you and I for example We have widely different opinions on things but we all agree. I'm like, you know The idea that you should take pics of kids or Yeah Absolutely right instead of arguing about things that are different We say, okay, what are the good things we agree with right because all that other shit is menial compared to it Oh the women the pickleball that's menial compared to taking pictures of freaking kids and the law enforcement Technology specialists I spoke with and and I have the interview. I'm just editing I was editing it as I was going through youtube and I saw you guys live and that's when I was like Hey, let me just say what's up showing my support and I saw you two guys on here I did see alex on uh face's stream. I didn't see the whole thing face wanted me to come on that stream And uh, he said he saw the email too late because we spoke earlier that week and um I think somebody threatened him because they've been threatening people They threatened to hold the truth not to come on a stream They threatened cbp and they threatened a few other people that didn't come on a few people closed their channels down You know, yeah, I feel truth to take his channel down. I love that jazz channel Yeah, he kind of yeah, he was uh, he walked away and I told him. Hey, you know what because I told him I said look man With the thing that was going on between him and anthony or john anthony I told him look you need to just let that be I said the real enemy here The real problem is uh, modern life is uh, john hugh would roll it's it's all it's the frauds exactly It's the whole yeah Wait he's he stopped putting it up because of the we we had like a minor thing I made one video because he was trying to make all these memes about me and all this stuff Well, I tried to explain like look let him say the black pill and all it is. It's not a gang It's not a it's not a label. It's you know, it's it's something that was a metaphor for truth What the red pill from the matrix was right? So I was like, okay I understand, you know, you got pua hate whatever, you know, you're angry and he's still a very cool guy I mean a guy's a cool guy what we had in common. I mean, it's so messed up that they just the things they do to these people I mean, I mean they threaten them and it's because I mean he was anonymous. What could they do? Uh, well, you know, it was carolina dox them, man carolina is a real bitch, man Yeah, who's carolina again? Oh Gusting kidless monster the brazilian bitch man. She is still talking shit still I gotta get credit to tony bruno tony bruno has been warning the man is here about that chick for a long time, man carolina hermes, yeah I'm never credit to tony man because she she was trying to separate guys and I was like, wait a minute I'd let you on the show and you were on for 10 streams and I noticed guys were getting uncomfortable I said, listen, we're gonna make this an old man's stream again and she took it well Uh But she's still lingered around, you know, kind of like a cat that you feed that just won't go to fuck away And I'm like, okay, you know feed her a little comment here and there went on her stream So she wouldn't come back on the stream, you know, it did interviews with her all it else. She deleted Had my co-hosts do interviews with her, but it's a good lesson. You know, it's a good lesson to learn You're 43 year old, you know, uh kidless, you know, I mean it's sad She had this dude on a screen and she's still talking about us. So laughing about the comment up here Hey, I'm gonna go first To heaven 300 to 500 Wow, that's a wide range, man. Yeah, I'm about 130 Yeah, I've been slowing down too for a while. I want to keep it under 150 Make sure you know, you know your lay counter, man I knew there was a problem when I was forgetting girls that I had sex with like later on, you know Because when I was the military soldier as a teenager, you know, there was a lot of a lot of women You know women do love men in a uniform But I saw that it was a little more than that because some of my other friends, you know, they didn't get the treatment I was you know, I was reading we're only meant to like keep track of like 100 people in our minds because Like when we used to be in tribes and shit like that. So I wish I'd kept a A spread sheet or something like something like that not to be fucking yeah I know mine is I would say it's under a hundred man I mean, I slept with a lot of uh married women in the army, you know, you that's just normal You know, if you're not married and when I got out I was 22 years old four years served You know in good shape You know, I was doing a hundred push-ups at a shot And I noticed girls in their 30s, you know, because this is like in the early 90s He's these 30 35 year old 40 hippie really cool hippie chicks, you know Kind of like the the christie mcnickle type the you know, jane fondas and all of that and they were just like Happy, you know, so I'm trading my youth and and by and vitality for their Vagina and then it's the same thing you do as you get older We trade our finances and status for the younger The 2021 22 year old hot chicks, you know in in certain ways some men do, you know So I I would say conservatively to me I'm not keeping count, but um, I would say yeah Definitely under 180 maybe or even lower, you know, it wasn't a big thing because I would get steady You know pussy, but I um I I was always a one woman type of guy. So I never uh I was never that guy that was like, okay I got you know, like a lot of women I did have like what I guess would be considered a rotation Because I grew up in the era of of like the drug era in new york city, you know So there was freaking everybody was throwing pussy around women It was a lot easier to get women because you had Currently doing on sharing or uh late 40s. Yeah And you know, you know, I'm I'm gonna be in the 50s You know, but the thing is is as I get older I noticed the main thing is staying in shape staying in very good shape eating right exercising Um, and really at this point is really finances, you know, just just doing my normal stuff and um And getting in touch with uh with more than you know, because I consider myself a spiritual person I'm not religious, you know, I'm very scientific, but you know Uh knowledge and all of that has always been a part of me science and study and archaeology and stuff like that And when I do come out, you know, I've been out. I've been on radio shows for about 10 11 years now People say, oh wow, okay. This is him and you know, when I look at people saying, oh, oh, oh This is him. This is him. I'm saying, okay If it is or it isn't right How does that compare to a guy taking pictures of children? How does it compare to a guy? Well, hang on, hang on before we continue. I wanted to pull this up I don't know if any of you guys are familiar with this archaea selection theory This is like in animals first of all, but also there's theories for a while in our decades that this applies to human beings And that our species is basically split and that's actually one of the reasons even you see politics So heavily split in a lot of countries like america So our case selection theory is basically the idea that Men and women both as far as I understand it The species is we have different breeding strategies Basically, like some guys are like, you know, md says like a one woman kind of guy. What does that mean? Well, it could mean he says like he's genetically case selected Like you're born this way and that you don't have any huge interest in banging a limited woman You want to find like one or two chicks or whatever and like breed like a whole bunch of kids out of them And animals like I'm serious like whales are like this wolves are like this and it's different from like mice and like rabbits Yeah, I read in various neuroscience books the monogamy is A certain part of our brain is wired up from an army and homo sapiens don't have it There's like species of monkeys that are that never have more than one mate And then they tinker with that part in their brain and then it goes and starts mating with everyone They found this is more complex though This is saying that like this our species is not uniform in that that it's different Like literally split like half and half Yeah, I would agree with that guys Or literally just one girl type of guy like they're legit. They're not trying like these guys who can get late But like no man, I'm happy like I want to be with one girl But some guys are not some guys really The book that I'm working on before I leave the manosphere or You can never escape the manosphere But when I go into just you know a different sector is all about that It's about the the effects of sperm the genetics and you know women that it's just a proven scientific fact If they had a lot of partners they cannot pair bond anymore That's it. I mean not saying that they can't stay with a guy forever But this is a fact. Uh, men also there's a hormone that allows us to bond like Anthony said And Alex is saying I would say it goes beyond what Alex is saying or just split or I would say It might be a couple of different categories A guy might be monogamous After a few relationships a guy might not be monogamous Birth control right it has a lot to do when women take birth control, right? And this is something I'm putting in the book if a guy and his wife are You know if she's on birth control, right? Uh and and she gets off birth control after five years and they have a kid, right? It changes because when she's on birth control She's attracted to the way he smells while she's on that contraceptive because the contraceptive is altering her chemistry When she's off it and she has the kid now she's not attracted to him sexually because it has changed her physiology and it and and they break up she leaves And she I get now she's she's got a she's a single mother She doesn't want the father of the child this is chemical conditioning and the I think it was the son or grandson of Margaret Sanger who who had the Planned Parenthood stuff the straight eugenic genocide He was he wrote a book. I'm citing it in my book. Uh It was something about the pill. It might be called a pill But this doctor I was talking to showed how he was saying it's destroying Male sperm count since the 60s. It's dropped. Uh, I think it was 50 percent You know 50 percent. I mean it gets in the water supply and shit like that. I don't know I don't know if that's true or not. I got 50 50 on that stuff. I haven't looked into it too much You see what is the estrogen in the water? Uh one doctor. Um She's she's a catholic from from england I think and she was stating that uh the estrogen is in the water Like crazy now as we look 40 50 now we're 60 years later, right in the last 20 years. I mean I've got a pretty long Dating you know, I've been dating since the late 80s and having sex So I saw when I was just uh, you know, basically a the teenager young going into my 20s and and the sexual inflation which a lot of people say according to term I saw when it was low when the stock and vagina was very low and when communities are flooded with drugs the stock and vaginas is is almost it's it's it's like a dime, you know $10, you know When I was in the military guys were telling me in career. You're paying two to five dollars to get screwed Um in america at that time. It was 20 bucks in texas and for her texas It was 20 bucks man for a fucking to suck and it's like you think okay I got to go back to base and I got to run five miles in the morning I got three hours this chick, you know wants to talk whatever fuck you I rather pay 20 bucks over here and um As that started to raise in sexual inflation now you'll see that I understand what the insoles are saying They can't even get the fat chicks anymore. They don't even get the ugly chicks anymore So And they have no ability to fucking yeah, it's stupid. Hang on I want a bitch about something that this dude's commenting and I think you guys will find that's interesting Adj probably bang 500 but being modest. No Now some people accuse me of being a liar when I say 130 like oh, you even banged them any chicks and I guess the the reality is it's like uh Kind of your height on the internet, right? Dudes lie all the time about this like on tender inch like this So it's like if you tell the truth, you just fuck yourself I think lake counts kind of like that too unless it's ridiculous like 1400 kind of shit Yeah Yeah, I hit I hit 100 in june 2012 and then I've just been so reported And it wasn't like a lot of people misunderstand They think it was just like everything else in my life was sacrificed to increase the number I was running big rotations all the time that I would prioritize. I was doing other shit I didn't have a real job. You know, I've been doing this coaching for Full time since 2013 I was coaching before that I haven't had a real job 2013 So when you can stack multiple dates in a day and you're what and you're running a highly effective system You can knock out 100 in a year with just two closes a week But it wasn't all about indexing quantity. It's definitely a lot easier if you don't have a real job I can vouch for you. Yeah, but just having good skill is a byproduct you and the pool I'll say this though. I've been going out with Xavier since like 2009 when we started hanging out way back then And he's fucked about 200 to 250 so quite a bit more than about double But the reality is if he's a chubby chaser, he fucks. He's fucked some hot girls straight up I don't want to deny that he's got games But he fucks a lot of fat girls too. I've made fun. I made him a hat So make make women fat again. It's to fuck with them He's one of those Curve curves above everything guy. Yeah, exactly. He likes thick Latina woman And he's half Puerto Rican. So it is what it is But if I if I was you know even going out of them if I had the same standard Like I would fuck probably this point 200 or more But I don't do that the first girl. I fucked my prom night She's a legit eight then and even at hindsight now I got I guess you could say I got lucky, right? Or it's kind of how things played out I got fortunate that kind of set the bar like an eight And I've always been super super reluctant to go beneath an eight Because like in my head I was 17. I fucked this eight and I'm like that's what I want to fuck eight or better, right? And I like fucking hot women. That's my goal Fucking these fat girls and land whales and shit. It's gross to me. I don't want to do that The only thing too is I always lived in places that had an abundance of hot girls So like like in like Vegas like Miami San Diego Like I was able to keep my quality high even with a high quantity just because there was such an abundance of hot chicks Like the past year and a half been in brazil the past year and a half before that was in poland The the belcher of just shit so much because you're removing a lot of the fat chicks. Yep And chicks just have better genetics. I let one fat girl. I've never fucked a fat girl I let a fat girl blow me once in 2017 Because I was always like dude Xavier is able to do this some other buddies have done this Like I can't be that bad just let her blow you right like two in the morning And it was it was my brain was like freaking out man. It's like don't don't bust Yeah, it's just I don't know man. Just couldn't I'll never do it again That was the one time I let it I had to think about other tricks to bust I was like, I can't even fucking do this. Like this is disgusting. She was even that bad She's like a like a fat five like not the end of the world Uh guys fuck where we're glaring this and I didn't fucking fuck her a brother blow me and it was like Never again never ever again because my brain I wish I could say my first girl was an eight. My first girl was probably a four objectively Yeah, I was one of those guys that kind of just went up in quality as I got more competent I started high my buddy Socrates one of her speakers in Orlando He's you know going out with me for years too and top player and stuff He knows Xavier too And he said my bar has always been set like unnaturally high And I think it's just because luck like the first girls happen to be fucking hot She was so hot in high school a lot of these didn't even believe me because they knew her So there's no fucking way you fucked her. I'm like, I fucked her and the mother buddy was like, yeah He fucked the shit out of her So and it was this whole fucking thing, but I was there Yeah, man, it was it was well She's fucking she fucking told everybody right because I couldn't bust so fucked her for like four hours on prom night Uh, which is the opposite problem most guys have but some guys have this problem It's it's what yeah, it's one or the other either you bust too fast or you can't bust Yeah, I was too fast category. I was in the opposite But hang on she yeah So she went and fucking bragged though to fucking everybody but over like the sunday after prom So I go to school on monday and everybody's like all these chicks are I fucking the shit out of me Because I think I'm like this is a fucking rockstar now fucking for four hours in like 17 I was fucking it was pretty funny and then school ended but Uh, yeah, it was a whole fucking thing Dude it was like out of a movie too because I walked into the lunch room and like the football team They found out they knew I was a virgin and then not anymore. So I clapped and shit and whole lunch room So I clapped and shit. I'm also it was it was really uh at that age. It's like really embarrassing that you're like fucking beat red You're like, oh fuck what the fuck But yeah, I lasted like 30 seconds on my first time. I lost my virginity the end of first year of college to a Slightly heavier chicks probably a six and a half or seven, but hey, let's um Where's the something I want to talk? There's no comment. I wanted to pull up here. Here it is This is good. Mr. Noir says why are people shocked that there's in fighting in this space? So this is an important topic because we get a lot of the blade the beta male police the bmp Everybody's like, oh, it's feminine feminine energy all this fucking bullshit. They can't even back up, right? But I think the man is here. It's fundamentally or it has been unmasculine And that's why there's so many frauds and that's why these frauds get away with bullshit because it takes masculinity to be conflict prone And like fight and be like no fuck this loser and call someone out You know what? I mean and it's all these beta male fucking gamma male weirdos that hate it because it fucks up their fraud number one So they don't get money, you know, fuck's about their shit number two They just they want to keep the the feminine growth growing to like rip all these dudes off What do you guys think about this though? Why is there the people are shockers in fighting in this space? I think it's a it's a coping mechanism. I mean, you know what it is These are the trolls like Chad curry cell. He's another troll. That's in the chat I've been I've been documenting these guys. I mean they have they have no life I mean they are Hogwarts a hot child army because that's what I'm going to call it now the hot child army because Yeah, they're straight up pathetic and you know and then you know you look at that and it's like, okay So one they're afraid of real men So when they see real men that can sit and have differences but yet talk like, you know cordial people Oh, that's that's the biggest fear. Oh, why aren't we fighting with each other? Why because we're men and we're mature enough to say look, we're going to each have different outlooks It might be political. It might be in real life. It might be What, you know, how we feel about women, but we know that we're mature enough to say, okay Hey, you know what? We have a line that's drawn that there are the things that we do agree with with of course, you know We're not going to cross that line like hogwood and rollo And I want to address also with the with the fat chick thing, you know And you're right when you have a higher bar and you say, okay, I want to go for eight I notice that fat chicks that get laid by good-looking guys. They're bar raises And they're like, they're not going to sleep. We're right guys. I mean look at rollo's wife She's uglier than most fat chicks that I've seen. I mean that's straight skeletal from masses of you No comment. No comment. You guys I can comment on the last thing you said because I experienced this so when I went to columbia Last time I was in midi and you know in columbia, you're going to be sleeping with way more girls It just is what it is and so after two weeks of walking around midi and I felt like the hot girl because I was used to having like a crazy success rate like Every night there was multiple girls on tour who want to hang out Every other girl who I would approach would be a number close and it was all pretty much all solid number closes Like every other one of those girls would come straight to the house So it was just like my success rate was insane and then I just started feeling like hot girl And I remember actively turning down sevens Like my I remember the guy I was with he was like, yo, dude, that chick is pretty hot Why don't you bang her like she's like a seven versus in miami like if there's a seven i'm gonna fuck her Location man location and sexual inflation matters so much. That's that's what happens to the girls Well, yeah, so Anthony is in is in brazil right now Yeah, more hot women down there to men, you know, so it's like just more women and men So then what do you see you see like chicks with the egg build like carolina? She's not getting nothing, you know She could come to america and guys will simp for her in brazil They don't want to look at her because they got these other chicks to look at same thing for eastern europe. Yeah Eastern europe eastern europe. It's uh, yeah, you can't get away with being like, you know Well, I notice in ukraine they're getting a little more picky because they don't want the pump and dump thing Ukraine and I like ukraine in girls that pretty Other than kiev that I would never go back. It takes two to five days to close And there's so much like influx of sex tourism there from like, yeah It's just a culture one thing also i was telling you john when you were there There's also this like because i'm russian and I know they create your culture really well There's like this very strong mistrust it goes back from the soviet days of america So just like if you spoke russian fluently, I think you would have a not substantially different experience But like a noticeably different experience The women have been like roomed in a sense. I was talking to a lot of the local guys Um, since there's like so much influx of sex tourism They all expect to be treated like, you know, basically like pampered and this and that a lot of them just expect guys to give them gifts and You know, they're trying to be like sugar babies and stuff like that just just off the bat I had chicks on dates. They're like, hey, I want to get like this and this can you buy for me? Do I have first dates or or like I need to grow them all for a date So claud I need to stop over here and she like takes like a chocolate stand and orders all these expensive chocolates She's like here pay for it. I've never I've never experienced that anywhere else Here's a question. What country in the world has the most fucked up women. I think it's america. Is there anywhere worse? America, america, australia those three countries about that one. Actually, that's a good question london is When I was there ugly man straight up, I got two London and they're from london actually And it's small like I do better when I'm there Then a guy from england coming to new york city because new york city is just ridiculous. The sexual inflation is off the handle Um russia alex is right like I have a lot of russian friends and I know a couple of phrases, you know I think specific us. Thank you. I don't know if you see a question about yeah Yeah, so when I say these little things like I think it's uh Uh T panamanu americanski, you know, like do you speak american, you know, and they're like, how the fuck do you know these things? I'm like, well, I've dated russian chicks. I've dated huggarian chicks. I can say good morning and all of these little phrases. Uh, I think it's what, uh Dobre utra or something good morning Yeah, so, you know, when you when you do that you connect with other cultures You know when you say somebody in brazil bungea or in spanish, you know, bueno dias And they're saying, whoa, this guy's actually he's not your ordinary american that expects you to speak his language even though I don't speak it fluently and Yeah, I learned five languages living around the world. So I speak, uh, polish, uh, some russian and then Portuguese Spanish and Portuguese are my strongest. I'm pretty foolish. I knew somebody gene. Uh, it's gene dobby, right? Yeah, wow, holy because I've learned how to say about greetings in 20 languages But I didn't learn any fluently. I said, let me learn the basics, right? But five languages fluently I commend you. No, not not fluent the other ones within spanish and portuguese fluent But there's a there's a guy michelle thomas. He's a german linguist have a video on my channel about it. Basically he Um, he has like a patent on this method where he just teaches you like the major 500 words He says if you do an analysis of the new york times, it's like the same 500 words repeated over and over So he just started you just start right off speaking sentences. You can get conversational in like the top 15 languages or so within about six eight hours Without any google translator anything like that. That's really good Commonly what you said though, there's definitely a lot of truth One of the things I teach is if you have a type like you're into like let's say korean girls You're into spanish girls learn a few phrases from that language doesn't give you huge not a huge But it's gonna give you a noticeable Advantage it like builds a lot of instant comfort basically like run off the bat if you can say Yeah, I was to that to that country's question I would say I would say ukraine was like the biggest difference I saw from all my travels is just that It's like nearly impossible to get one night stands or to bang on the first date It sounds crazy, but like most of them don't want to come home with you I had a lot of situations where we'd be on the fourth date in public and they wouldn't want to kiss yet There's a lot of fucked up elements of russian and ukrainian culture. It's pretty much the same culture But um, yeah, they're just like hardcore family oriented when I lived in china Uh, everyone's like extremely passive because a lot of the dudes are just like The culture is everything's very you know, the chicks were telling me like they've never had a dude like act as confident before like Just like a shell shock because they're not used to guys acting that way Yeah, china's very it's uh, you know, they the You know, I don't want to say nothing bad about the country But the oppression you know, I mean when you're looking at you know the communism the stuff that I mean the the males You see it in the in the populace of the males of how they act, you know, uh, I've had russian friends tell me Hey, man. Be careful in russia, you know, and um I you know speaking those phrases alex is right It gets me very far when they're like, wow, you know, you know how to say the basics that I think pleases pa jowsta Uh, and like you just you know, you say these little things and they're like wow, but china for some reason I was never really attracted to that part. I'm more wrecked. I was never either I was never really attracted to asian girls unless it's like big Yeah, I remember I remember I pulled uh I was like out in china. It was like it was on my birthday. I was like the only white dude in the club Like almost double everyone's height and shit like that people like people like dancing in synchrony to the beat Even though they didn't work for the club And I was like this is fucking awesome And I and I met this hot chinese girl and she's with these other two chinese One was her sister and one was like their friend I had no wingman and I just pulled all three back to my hotel just showing them like my hotel car And I was I didn't speak mandarin and like the two like the sister and the friend sat on the bed While like railed the other girl in the in the hotel bathroom You know and she was loud and shit that I know but it was just like such a different dynamic There was like no cock blocking and um And with and with like other girls that I would go on dates with They they would just they were just like ultra shy like ultra passive and they would type in the translate like chinese girl Not so open You know like they're just not used to being like a guy being dominant or confident or anything like that Yeah, um, it's uh, yeah a homo erectus. That's another troll I noticed he says the 14th law that I have law 14 every day to single mother So they I mean, it's funny how these guys will come to streams that I hop on just to troll And I'm I'm banning every guy you say is a troll. So I'm just I mean, I haven't looked at the comments yet. That's shit. Fuck. Yeah. Well, I put on stream You're you know when it starts it has private chats, but I switch it to comments So I don't have to switch to the other window when I do my streams. It's always a little behind I think usually when I'm a guest it looks like it coordinates really good But whenever I stream, it's like, you know, I'm it's hard to toggle and then look for guests and you know people coming on and stuff But yeah, um they uh They follow people and really what I'm seeing is they're afraid of what we're doing right here They're afraid to see guys that have different thoughts and get along fine and say, hey, you know what it is You know, this is cool and we know where the line is drawn Uh, I know the scribe came on tony Bruno stream with me, uh thursday. It was great man scribe He was on fire. I mean he um, he actually you know, he still has his his dating uh stuff and um He does his thing man. I commend the guy. I mean, he's he's you know, like a brother to me, you know I'm a big proponent of uh Healthy debates like that's what I always try to do on my channel I've had on many guests and all of them some of them think widely differently than me I've never had a situation where I've had to kick a guest out or anything like that has ever happened You can have I've had people jump off like bulldog as much as he says about let yeah, we chastised him without a doubt scribe So he could have left and If I was in his shoes, I would have bounced out with him. Yeah, he stayed for the first time the first time I ejected him because he was I could notice he got nervous It looked like he was reading a screen of what rollo was telling him to say on the side and then he he He just kept he started saying shut up shut up. So I said, okay, look you say it again I'm just going to throw you off because you've been here two hours. You're boring us now So we got rid of him then he jumped on another time stayed on for five hours And that was the time he said hey man, they chastised me. I'm like wait a minute, bro You could have left, you know, you stayed until the end of the stream You know and I still don't got nothing against him Uh, he went on nut shot stream and I got to admit. Yeah, I was I was a little harsh on him because he had the balls to say Yeah, putting a guy on screen that's in a wheelchair and saying that he's got a three That's he said yeah, that's messed up, right? Then he renegs, right? Oh, well, I saw this guy I said just when you thought this guy was a human being, you know, and I just I blacked out But nut shots, you know, I think I don't know he says the channel was whatever Yeah, I forgot about that stream where they they brought a guy in a wheelchair on with like Oh, he couldn't even he couldn't even use a paraplegia basically and that he had he had a rotation of three hot women. It was like Hogwood the first thing he said oh, josh is out earning everybody, right? They showed a news clip of josh where he's on the news saying look He's trying to get the state to fund his bedlift I was going to start to go fund me for that guy, but I couldn't find a way to contact them And these guys what did they do, you know? Hogwood probably gave him a blow job and got him to say that shit on camera and it's just you know I think about this. That's another thing I called out when I showed uh pictures of my ring gains in a bed with two different men Uh following transvestites and hey nothing against people that want to follow transvestite. That's what you want to do That's what you want to do, but don't lie to me and tell me you're straight You know, I mean don't lie to me. This is what you are Um, I hope I mean see on the stream that we do like tonight saturday nights it's it's always crazy because Um, I let anybody come on which it's a double-edged sword You can get cool people at hop on and you I mean you look at the some of the old streams people come on They flash all of this stuff. I get them off in three seconds. You know, and I just okay, you know But people send me that shit. They're like, hey, you need you need to expose migtail dictionary because They had people flashing on the stream and they're sending me like the screenshots with guys dicks. It's like, what the fuck are you doing, man? I remember this one offy kingdom had that problem He had his channel taken down temporarily because he had some random dude shows I don't ever said this Why would you ever like it's a bunch of dudes not like it's it's like you're on a Whatever thing with chicks and you're showing your dick to chicks which okay that is weird in of itself At least that's understandable. You're showing your dick to 99 dudes like I don't understand It's just like shock shock value like oh look they're cool or important now It's just there's just the manners You know what it is you can't get nobody else to look at the dick they nobody's gonna look at it So they say hey, you know what? This is the only way I didn't know afi uh I used to call him afi the clown because he came on with lfa when we were cool And I was like one of the first guys I roasted him and I think it was red pill rebellion Because he recommended that you sleep you can sleep with a girl with aids without a condom And and you'd have a one percent chance. I said you're out of your freaking mind I blacked out went off and now he runs around trolling, you know red pill rebellion anything he can say so All of these guys are documented but afi i'm not mad at afi But I think he was hurt because because uh he came on camera And I said man you kind of look like grover from sesame street And then he took the camera off and he put an avatar on and then he changed the avatar And you know I I could still make peace with it. I'm not mad at him But then he and lucario Made a video and I'm like wait a minute. I don't even know this guy and he started saying so I said okay I said, you know it goes both ways. I'm happy when people roast. It's like hey great, you know Do what you're gonna do when I roast don't say nothing, you know And I'm at the point now where I'm just gonna let it just I'm just gonna let it ease off Once I get the sperm book out to teach younger generations how important it is to be careful You know and you know definitely be careful of stds Uh and then go from there, you know and say okay. I'm transitioning onto a newer channel and Leave a documentary probably for the last thing that I do and just say hey have a great time I might come back, you know once a month if that but hopefully I'll be able to just you know stay away from Yeah, your channel is uh, you know, you got big men four or five thousand subs legendary men legendary work They've taken down the frauds men someone's gonna crack some skulls, bro Thanks, bro. You too, bro. I mean you and I want to see your channel grow. I mean Yeah, I definitely I've said it before in the stream. I said look if I had to choose between the two I like to see anthony win against rollo and those guys. I mean crush all of them and I mean We're fucking killing it right now, man. We got 317,000 subs on my main channel Again, we've gained over 22,000 subs 23,000 the past 30 days run fire And I think we're gonna hit 400,000 by october november. So with 400 kids or two Yeah, they've committed high trees Yeah, they committed high treason against anthony. I mean I looked at that and I was like what the I mean rollo is doing the right thing in the world We can do the right thing and you're you're really committed to what you're doing You love it people want to take you down the higher you climb the more they want to take you down like Crabs in a bucket kind of shit. Yeah Can you can you pop the comment up about uh, alex is interviewed with face in lms because I didn't get a chance to see it I'm just curious what what people saw Yeah, this one. Yeah, this one. Yeah, what's what's like the high level summary alex of the major points or whatever I mean face in lms basically believes that uh in look determinism. So whatever let's say you're a fault for that's like As far as you're gonna climb like that said you're determined to that and that the black pill is based on science And research and that yeah, you know, it is what it is and that you know the pickup community Heavily overflows, you know, how much game matters and just basically all that I didn't necessarily disagree with everything he said I also agree that looks are very important and that for example much better looking guys can have a way easier time than a Worst-looking guy. I just disagree with one. Some of the studies they cited are very unscientific So I debunked some of those and two I disagree with the extent to which they matters and yeah, you you were right when you said they hate those What about ism examples? They say well, I've never heard of a guy who's like a four banging sixes or sevens I'm like, okay. Well, there's my roommate. Like he's a four. He's indian. Uh, you know, he has an accent He's bald like he fits all the criteria. He's not but he's not deformed I I agree like if you're deformed like yeah, you're kind of fall. He's in and he's in the triple digits He's in the triple digits. Yeah, and he's he's hit. He's doing what like 60 girls a year or something like that That's funny Yeah, and he's Three years ago Yeah, since I've been coaching for over 10 years, I just have thousands of counter examples So to me, there's no debate to me. It's not my opinion versus opinion to me I have tons of examples, but I'm not a guy that says looks don't matter It's it's far from that the fact the matter is is that Like just to break it down like super super simple, right? If you give me any guy regardless of his looks, right? Unless he's, you know, really really really really really ugly, right? I'm gonna give him pro pictures I'm gonna have the a team of girls pick the top five pro pictures We're gonna max out the aesthetics on those top five with face app and photoshop And then I'm gonna write his bio for him then he plugs into my online sequences Now he has a bunch of phone numbers no way around it no matter who he is No matter how bad his game is then he plugs into my text sequences Now he has a bunch of girls coming straight to the house Right, so literally I just have to show him how to how to close once the girls in his house Which isn't that hard and now he's he's closing regularly and then I show him how to add in more lead flow from cold approach And I show him how to handle the public dates when he has the dates in public And tada, he has a regular stream of girls for life And then he can upgrade his confidence and coolness and work on his smd and upgrade his quality And I show him how to retain the girls and that's it But it goes from getting pro pictures to having girls come into your house because I define all the texting and online game sequences So where does black pill fit into that? And The the black pill like I noticed the comment alex was saying if black pill was true The black pill is a metaphor for truth So if the truth is that okay, like you said if a guy is like physically deformed He's screwed. Uh, he always has hookers, you know, like uh, yoke mess the odor that comes on 30 years. He's been screwing hookers. I think he's like 50 um One thing you guys said that I appreciate is looks do matter You know looks do matter I think you're gonna work better for one guy than another guy looks actually gives your personality a chance But when you think about that, is it really your personality or is it your looks now? This can't be determined in one 10 100 streams I mean, this is very very complex and I think that There's going to be a real separation between guys that say okay. No looks do matter to an extent I appreciate alex's uh honesty with that You know and john anthony's because I heard him say it when I was making my coffee that yeah It's going to work better for guys. Look, that's that's a truism as well I mean what what would tend to be you know if all if everyone was on equal playing field Like rst preached for years and years everyone's cut from the same cloth Looks don't matter whatsoever and they used to close threads and emphatically make the point I even bought into this at one point like 10 years ago. They would like close Hey, how much looks matter they'd close the thread on the forum and say this has been answered a million times They matter zero They were very controlling like they close a lot of threads other shit too. I forgot about that They're weird RSD specifically they did that The service of the community by making the argument that looks dumb now at all if they had just said yeah looks of course He had to For their marketing to Well, he had to do that own cook had to do that because he looks like gimley from lord of the rings I mean he's just missing a hammer, you know and and and if you look at his audience, right? They're all Basically in cells, you know and and he plays a bit. Okay. Look if a trollish looking guy from mordor like him Can can get a chick which is all staged then hey pay me the 300 dollars and when I looked at the seminar I said wow he just pulled in about nine grand from this So the money talks at that point and what do they have to do? Suppress the truth. You can't make money off of the truth. You know, it's very hard to make money off of the truth So how do you make money off the truth? Somebody pays you to bury it, you know Face face never really goes on anybody's stream. He went on rollo stream one time They chastised him he came on mine twice as as just to come on as a cool guy was like wow, this is great Face is face lms that guy face and lms. Yeah, uh, we spoke on email, you know a few times He even advertised the app that I had back in 2019 in november excellent in water tracks woman five I was on a stream in december of 2019 with him and uh, coach blackpill at the time cbp now um And you know, they the points the truth will change the the level of of the water at high tide is the truth That is the level at low tide that truth of the level at high tide changes to the level at low tide Now guys like you guys are saying okay. Yeah, okay looks do matter The reason you see these other guys rollo can't say looks matter because look at them I mean brutal look rollo straight out the crypt. They dig him up and put him in here for live streams So he he came butt plug fitness from fashion fresh and fit him in the little frog the ostrich and the frog They can't say that because one guy that's a great fit. You're one guy, you know, he's got the beak Alex got serious beak straight email, you know and frog you look at him You're like frog is just a little, you know We caught frog and this is something too if guys would just admit it to a point Uh, I got a look for the picture. I might still have it where he's wearing Uh lifts and the sneakers. So why would a guy do that? It's basically because height does have a bearing, you know Looks do have a bearing. So this is why okay a person will will um Will comb their hair in a certain way, but but then again here again, you know, that that's a big factor there, you know, so um Again, there are things that mitigate this and as long as people are being honest to say, okay This guy here with the glasses And the balding and all of that is it this is a special case And I've said it all along sometimes men need men to basically walk them through like I know guys have told me Hey, man, women will not talk to me But when I'm hanging out with you women come around And you're not the type of guy that's like hungry for them and you let things happen But I've noticed how they will ignore certain guys that you know, they try to say something when they say something to them It's like they ignore it when I say something they actually think about what I said So I'm saying, hmm, and I didn't know this in the 90s All I knew is when I got older and I looked back at it I said this is why this chips chick slept with me because I wasn't a nice guy And that might also be part of it But if a guy is a five two or like they say, what's the stereotype the five two balding indian janitor He if he's not nice to a girl That that plane not mr. Nice guy ain't gonna get him nothing, you know, they don't want to talk to they're like, thank you Stay away The only way for him to really get anything one is status look at billy joe five three five four Sings all of that he got the supermodel christie brinkly, but it wasn't based on attraction I put that in my book the uh the black pill because I just Sorry to cut you off man, but I got to get I got to bounce them in here We got to close up the show a little bit short today a little over an hour and 30, but I appreciate everybody's time today Everybody watching you know happy 4th of july happy birthday america. Fuck. Yeah Alex they can find your channel on youtube by searching alex pwf I'll come up playing fire. We'll finally ranking high Or you'll find the Or you'll yeah the john seen a movie Got it john they can find you by searching coach john anthony on youtube right Yeah, john anthony lifestyle and then uh platinum dating system.com is my my course 48 laws of dating actually search mcthow dictionary right on youtube pull right up. Yeah. Yeah, they are And you got the book you got the book on amazon 48 laws of dating, right? Yeah, 48 laws of dating and the black pill so two different books Okay, boys. Thanks for your time today. I appreciate it. Everybody tune in again. Happy 4th. Yeah, we'll talk again All right guys glitter peace out. This has been episode 145 of the red man group. See you guys probably next saturday peace