 We have right now we have 200 acres, 120 tillable and most of all that is in row crop production with the exception of a little bit of alfalfa. But we have all our old pasture where you cannot get a 12-row planter that is not planted and it's all just sitting idle. So when my son was born we decided I needed one of us is gonna stay home. I stay home and became a stay-at-home dad. I needed a hobby and hopefully one and I can make a little bit of money doing and fill the freezer and our cupboards and everything else. So and I grew up on a dairy farm that's my background. I worked on dairies, I've worked on ranches, I've never farrowed pigs. That's probably the only thing I have. I've even helped on broiler production. But anyway so we had all this extra land that was sitting there. It was all old heifer pasture mainly. So I kept talking to my folks. I said you know we need to do something with this. It's just sitting there and it's idle and we can do something. But it was all overgrown bock cellar and briars, brambles, you name it, blackberry bushes that weren't very good blackberry bushes and burbach. I'm like how can we clean this all out without spending hundreds of dollars on diesel fuel and tractor equipment. Plus a lot of it's steep and it's north-facing. There's some wet spots. So we looked into pork. You can get pigs and they, if you've ever seen a pig, which most of you have, it's got a shovel in front of its face. And they can do a great job of rotatelling man. Even a little, it's 30 pounders. They can do your mom's yard in about a half an hour. Let me tell you, I know this from back, but I want you to advance the, all right. So our production method that we're like, what we want to do is make sure that we give the pigs clean, fresh air and a healthy environment and plenty of exercise. And it's in low, low stress as possible. We don't want to have to pack them into a, into a small pen or a barn, anything like that. Plus we want to be able to train the land and to mow the land as we want. And we want to get some work out of these pigs, right? I mean, they're going to be on our farm. They got to produce. So we went with rotational grazing and we just built paddocks. And I got a couple sites here. I have actual layout of our farm. And we just use temporary fencing. And this is one of our good-looking girls here. I'll just after a move and they just start chowing down. And then we feed our pigs just a regular hog ration and a cell feeder. But when we move them, they don't care about that feeder at all. They don't touch it for probably three hours. Because all they want to do is get out in that grass. And it's all there's, there's white clover, red clover, crab grass, and a variety of other weeds, et cetera. And they just go nuts. And they just, I mean, look, you can see how clean she is. They just, she's really big there. But by doing this, we can, the low stress, I can buy animals. We buy all of our animals. I don't fero any. And I could buy animals that maybe wouldn't perform as well in a hog barn situation. You know, they get butted away from the feeders like that. But here it's so low stress that they can actually thrive in this environment. So that's our main goal here. So this is a layout of our farm, north field to be down in this area. And this is all, this is oriented north and south. We're just off a little bit. But so in this white, white line, this is all my perimeter fencing. And this is all just jungle man. I mean, this stuff is, it's all a north facing slope. This is all like swampy area that dries out in the summer, but August. And it was just sitting there all idle. And it's all overgrown. This used to be all cleared out when I was a kid, you know, when I was younger than you guys. And it's just overgrown when we quit farming back in 97. That's the last time this stuff's seen any action. So actually, I have one, one small, so our setup, this is our perimeter fence. I have one small barn here. When I receive pigs, I'll receive them in the next couple of weeks or first part. Right now, it's all north facing. There's no grass growing. Yeah. All the salt slopes are warmed up and there's good grass there, but there's nothing on these north slopes. Plus, it's pretty shaded. There's a lot of trees here. I've thinned it out some. But pigs like to shade too. So I have one small barn here. The first week I have the pigs will stay in this barn. It's a small pen, probably half the size of this room. And that's just to make sure everything's going to go well and they transfer well from the farm that I buy on the farm. The second week I have a small area here and that's all penned in with it's triple wire. So we don't have any escapees and it's electrified fence. And they'll spend the next week to week and a half in there just to get in a custom electric fence. And the fact that we can run around and play and have a good time. But yeah, we're still having the security of our little pig hut that we have down there. And then once they're 80 to 100 pounds, then it's off to the great wide open. And from there I'll just I'll use a polywire and we just build paddocks like crazy. And every four to five days I move them. Some guy, you know, I don't know if you guys are familiar with like beef pasture. They move them every day. But with the pigs, I want them to disturb enough area in here to keep the wheat pressure down and the bird ox and everything that I keep them there for four days, which works all handy because that's about how much feed my feeder holds and my water. So I don't have to dump anything or move the heavy equipment. I can just move my small water and my small feeder and move it to the next paddock, set the strings and they're good to go. So if you guys have any questions, please ask them. I'll probably circle back a couple times here. So here's our pigs. I don't, we buy these. These were Hampshire, Berkshire crosses, except for this one here. This is whitey. We're really creative with the names here. But this is all whitey. And they all finished well. She was a lot wiener than the Berkshire, Hampshire crosses. But I think there's a video of her. This, this pig, she never walked. She ran or she laid down. Now is it. I think she burned off after her fat cover just running. So that's, that's how they go. But this is our pasture. This is a, I moved them and then in the later in the afternoon, they just really settle down and they'll kind of find a shade area. And this is later in the afternoon and they're just relaxing and chilling. The feeder is actually right over here. And here's our perimeter fencing. And this is all just, it's just trash woods back in there. But they, they really go crazy back there. They eat the leaves off box. So you drop a box holder, they pull the branches down. Any new shoots going out of a box holder, they just, you think they're a little billy boat and they just chew it right down and nothing. It's crazy. Plus all this and then they'll, they roll sod and they do all kinds of damage, but it's all controlled damage because we're putting them on. There's just more pictures here. This is later in the fall. We moved them into our woods. There's the perimeter fence or our division fence there is that white polywire. People ask me, you know, is it hard to get them used to electric fence? No. The hardest part is when you go to move them to the next paddock is to get them to cross where that fence was. Pigs are smart and they don't like pain. They'll get zapped once and that's it. They'll remember, it's like they can smell where that fence was. And they, you have a hard time. Like when I do a move, I roll up the wire 20 feet and I let it sit and walk away. And they'll slowly filter through because, and now I had one old girl, this one here, she wouldn't want to cross where that was. She wouldn't, you know, she wanted a new grass, but she didn't want to even deal with where that fence was. So they're really smart that way. So once they get to be 200 pounds, one takes one strand of wire to hold them in. You know, I mean, it's just, it's crazy. You wouldn't think it. You think that a pig is going to be hard to contain, but they, they're so content being out and doing, being a pig that they don't care about getting into trouble. Now, if you, you know, leave them there too long so they run down all the grass and they get bored, they make you to have problems. That's why we got to move them every four of them. Here's, yeah, here's their chewing on these shoots that come out of the box out there. And we have lots of box sellers. So that's no problem. Lots of feed that. They just go crazy like that. And then, yeah, this is all cornfield back here. So that for probably six weeks, they boarded a cornfield and I had their place in vets of my family, which was going to get out first and who had to go chasing through the corn. And I'd never knock on wood. I'd never had a problem. They stayed there the whole time. We never had any bad storms and we never had any power outages either. So that's maybe one of the downsides of electric fence. Yep. Ryan, were there acorns? Do you know? No. So my whole, my whole plan too is our, we have a lot of oak and oak savannah is what they call it. And last year with that late frost we had, we had zero apples or acorns. And now as my whole plan is I'm going to finish these things up on the hillside where it's all acorns and apples. Because I've read about it. A lot of this isn't revolutionary. There's a guy called Joel Salton. I got some books to lay out later you can look at. But he's in Virginia and he's a leader in small scale farming and I guess unconventional farming. He does a lot of the, I copy a lot of his stuff as far as moving the pigs through the woods. He feeds them on chestnuts because that's what's common down there. Supposedly it has a great flavor to the pork. I've never had chestnut pork. I was hoping to have acorn pork, but there wasn't any. There was very few of the squirrels that got them waiting for it. It wasn't worth building a fence up through the woods this year. So hopefully this year now, this fall we'll have a good crop and then I have plenty of apple trees too. So that's also part of our thing. Video cannot be played on. Awesome. Space for again. That was just, I had two videos about our pigs. One was a pasture move and then showed them going across. And another one was because the pigs are in such a low stress situation. Plus I mean I see those pigs every day and you're talking about the millennials that's part of their thing is like well how is it raised? Like listen I, I meet these pigs every day. That's the first thing I do in the morning. I let the chickens out. I go see the pigs and I talk to them. I say hi. I scratch almost all of them behind the ears. And they, they gobble that up. Like they love that someone is actually talking to their pig. Some people might find a little strange that they're talking to their future meat but I don't know, they, they gobble it up. Not just millennials either but a lot of people that have been disconnected from their food source. They, they don't even realize that pigs are raised like this or raised in barns. They think it comes shrink wrapped at the store. You know pork and pigs sometimes isn't a word that is associated unfortunately. That's a big, big deal and luckily you guys are here to fix that because you're the next wave of people to talk about where your food comes from but off that soap box. So anyway I had a couple slides. Our fencing, our feeding, our water. Our fencing is all portable. Even our corner posts most of them I built with just tea posts because I don't have to have such heavy duty fences and they're electrified. I don't have a lot of strain and it's, it's all got to be easy to move because if I for some reason burn out a pasture maybe it's really overgrown I want them to really dig it up and clear it out. I won't be able to move them back there. I don't want to waste the resources of posts and fancy material to sit there for a year and not be able to use that stuff because posts are expensive. If you were bought in like five bucks a piece or even two bucks at an auction, right? So I mean this stuff adds up. So everything's got to be portable. We've got to be able to move it. So I use tea posts and step-in posts and all this land that I run. Remember we can't farm it conventionally. You can't run a corn planter across it. You can't run a Grangel across it right? It's goat country. So I don't have, I don't even have to worry about spacing out my posts. I have to put them where they need to be to hold the wire in place because I got gullies. I got steep stuff. My dad thinks I'm nuts but it works right? It works. So right now I use aluminum wire. I switched to aluminum wire because I heard a rumor that deer don't knock it down and when I switched to aluminum I haven't had deer trouble knocking it down. I don't know. They suppose where they can see it? I don't know. That was the rumor. It's a little more expensive than just conventional galvanized but it is lightweight. It's easy to tie. It's easy to stretch. It's really easy to deal with and it's got a higher conductivity. So if you have a weaker fencer or if you have a longer runs you get better voltage and amperage through your mind. I also use polywire for all my temporary so this is a, this is actually one of my permanent fences. If I have any this is one of them because this is my mom's yard off to this direction right? And it's only two wire but it haven't had any troubles. But so all my temporary fences or my division fences were on perpendicular and like in here I just step off unless there's a where I have to put a pole. I just step off three bases and dry out poles. So and you can kind of tell when it's time to make division fences so how big do I need? Well if it took them a week to try and graze down when you're on oh maybe I need to move that so I want it every four or five days. So there's a little trial in here. So sometimes you get it right on like oh four days and there's no more grass. Perfect. Other times like oh I really over guessed what was here or they burned it out in two days and I needed to make the paddock bigger. But anyway we use polywire on reels so it's easy to just I step in a bunch of posts around the polywire and I'll move besides the actual moving of the pig only to set the fence and wire only takes me 10 minutes if that but I gotta wait 20 minutes for old Doola to get her but cross across where it was supposed to be. Soora Whitey is crazy as she runs back. I mean they're animals they have their own brain. I did and when I first started I priced out everything right because I'm a nerd that way and a high tensile is going to be kind of cheap right and you can run and you don't have to use as many poles. I'm like this is going to be great so I bought all this high tensile stuff and it is great stuff. I used it on the ranch before but it was all flat straight stretches but when you get into this goat country that stuff doesn't work is too heavy to drag through and you have all these little crooks and corners trying to go around down trees and I pasture everything. So if you're looking at trying to fence in some corner property somewhere don't use high tensile it isn't worth it in my opinion. It was it takes more you have to crimp everything you gotta have strainers and it costs a little more that way. Per foot it was actually cheaper but it was a lot more it was a pain to work with. I switched a little bit of Mac and slapped up a whole fence and half my arm so just because the ease of working it doesn't look as pretty but it works pretty good. So our water right now because I'm so far removed from the buildings I would have to have like 10 garden hoses to reach wherever I want to be. So I have a horrible stock tank or a poly tank it's 350 gallon it's up on a hill. I fill that because it always will reach that and then that runs all the rest of my pipe. I just run it on a line along my fence and then I could have water to all my padlocks or pastures and then at the end of it I just move this my portable water it's a hot water I bought a mill sweep farm for a hundred bucks and it's a hundred gallon and I at four or five days with six to eight hogs this is empty by the time they're ready to move that's just kind of how it worked out and it's really lucky and it's easy it's like weight the only way is to try 35 pounds 40 pounds when it's empty. You can just slide it to the next paddock when it's empty and it works really slick. There's a little float in there so you can adjust the water level it gets dirty because pigs are dirty like their nose and mud but other than that it works really great. Then my feeder is just a sew feeder it's a 200 pound feeder. I have a cover for it because everything sits outside there's no shelter once they're you know that they've been on a farm for a month and they're doing good there's no more they find their own shelter. I got a cover for the feeder and they live out there. Their ration is just the I think I talked about the standard grower ration for hogs I get it from Paulson's feed service it's not non-gmo or an organic or certified or anything like that it comes right from their grain bin but so far when I've been marketing no one's asking for organic no one's even asked about where the feed comes from to people who I sell to they don't care about that they just want to know they're happy fat animals and they live a good life. So my wife's motto is they've had a good life they just have one bad day. So it's all right so it's all my marketing you guys talked about a little bit word of mouth once you get a customer that likes what you're doing that's the best marketing tool you'll ever have because they'll spread the word and they'll they'll do a good job and they'll spread the word to people that'll fit as a good customer they won't just tell everybody they won't yell it from the mountain tops they'll just tell all their friends that'll make you good customers and because of that I don't have many problems I don't have any complaints a lot of my marketing is on social media and a lot of that is just because I mean you guys know you can talk to so many people so quick now that I'm a big I was against Facebook man for years I've been in trouble on that thing all right I didn't even have an account until a month or a year ago but now I'm on it I see the power of it it's just crazy you know I post a video and a week later like 900 people have seen it that's nuts right what a pig a pig eating some grass I 900 people have seen that video I don't know 900 people so that's pretty nice but and then so I sold a few I sold a few pigs I sell a lot of chicken on Facebook just from people spreading it and then Craigslist that's it's free you can put an ad on there and people on Craigslist we add a lot of us search on it but most people are looking to buy anyone's looking for food on there is looking to buy so I've had really good luck on Craigslist all the pigs went on Craigslist and oh man probably 40 chickens sold part of them on Craigslist oh more than that 60 chickens I doubt that people on people on internet they like to spend money that's good so that's it for my pork is there any more pork stuff I was just I had a couple sides on what else we do but otherwise anybody have any pig questions I kind of ramble a little bit what kind of a do you use a solar sensor no I'm close up to the buildings that I can I just ran a lineup through so I don't I don't I thought about if I have to replace the one I have I don't know if I can go to solar but I might go to a battery part so I can just move it around a solar array that one's like 300 bucks so what what are they like when you have to bring them in and load them up too oh yeah so yeah let's get on that well I just so here yes the first problem we had is I had I had six pigs right I'm not a big time farmer right but I had six pigs and two of them weren't performing and they were three to four weeks younger they're a different litter the four of them even whitey came out all the same litter I guess the guy I bought it from but these two they were brother and sister from another litter and they just never performed they're always kind of skittish they were just a little they were shy I'm like well whatever we'll be able to work with them we can fix them and they just wouldn't perform and all of a sudden one day one had swollen joints okay something's wrong we had problems and I I don't feed any antibiotic or Medicaid or anything like that but I am a believer in modern medicine so if we can help something we're going to help them so I called the vet come to find out it's called Michael plasma and it's something that pigs get sometimes from the soil or other things but it caused a lot of arthritis in the joints and one pig couldn't hardly walk so I called the vet it was a $12 shot I gave the two little pigs a shot because the other one was showing the same signs it just wasn't as bad and it picks them up right but I showed you where these pigs live well how do you catch a pig to give it a shot and that was the fun my dad my dad he wasn't happy about that one but he held and we ended up having to build a corral out of cattle panels and they ran up up a draw and they hit a dead tree and they got trapped up there and we cornered them and we caught them but it took about 45 minutes to get two shots now I learned you just cut the feed away from them for like six hours and they as soon as you throw a little bucket of feed in the feeder they'll come running you can paddle them and everything while they're eating if they're hungry so next time if I have to do it again that's where we'll be but so but I mean my part of that story I guess is for $12 I picked I fixed that pig and within a week you didn't even know it was it was great so I know some people say oh I'll never do medication all now and save that pig so yeah what's a paddock a paddock so a paddock is you have your huge big pasture right but I don't want to run on the whole pasture all the time because I want to manage the grass and keep the grass in a growing stage so I'm just going to build a temporary fence in just part of that pasture and that'll be my paddock and then when that grass gets down to three four inches then I'll move them to the next paddock a paddock is just whatever you make your little temporary fence yeah how big are they when they go to market so I don't have a live scale but I shoot for 200 pound hanging weight and that's that actually was my average unit my small ones they finished out 180 pound hanging weight um but they were they almost looked small compared to the other ones were like 210 to 220 the big one was and the pork chops were just gorgeous on there they're huge and they weren't tough the meat's a little redder on pasture pork I think it's from the exercise I don't know and then I know that their marbling is less that's why I was we were talking about the Berkshires they have more marbling in the fat and I think that helped me because I tell my customers when they get on I said just just let you know you're going to burn your first set of pork chops you're going to dry them off they're going to be sawed off they're like oh no no we know and I'm usually right because they cook them like a conventional pork chop and there's a lot more saturated fat it's a little it's a little heavier and ours are pretty lean you cook them quick and they're good to go so it takes a little bit of different cooking style versus just their store-bought stuff but the meat the the bacon is so firm like it's not sloppy you're slimy at all it's just it's a real firm red cut and I love it and pork shoulder I'm a huge pork I like pork steak and they're really good I think it's from all exercise do you have pictures of your like your meat cuts it like the ones you put on facebook that make me drool do you have no there's just not facebook no I didn't okay no that's okay yeah I do have facebook so I I put everything out there this side just put together now I guess I didn't think to put them eat but yeah I'm just I was just curious go ahead yeah any other questions pigs are fun and they're easy to get into and a lot of you guys I mean how many of you guys raised pigs I know that you guys you guys all raised pigs for a fair right yeah I mean my pigs probably wouldn't win a grand champion but they taste pretty good and they're cheap they're cheap to grow you know I I had land that was just sitting there it's funny because for exchange of the land and use electricity in the water and all that's what I call it because I'm running for my parents they cost me about 300 bucks you know so they bought hard bucks an acre I had to pay but I made I made out I mean I I made the profit I wanted to and I sold a lot sold all my pigs so everything was great and we're in it again this year and I already got a couple sold so I am sold before I even haven't bought but that's a good thing it's a good thing that's how I know how many to order so it's all right how many are you gonna order this year six for sure maybe eight I don't want to get it over my head just because I don't I don't want to buy a new feeder and I don't know if 10 pigs would handle my little feeder I want to throw a bag in there twice a day you know be a lot of extra work right now the way I have it I just I check them twice a day but really I can only have to check them once and that's just make sure the water and the feeder there and the electric's working and I mean it takes me 10 minutes to check pigs unless I have to move them or fill the feeder which is all on the same day I fill the feeder move the feeder water and fill them all and move the pigs all in the same time so 45 minutes every four to five days that's all the work to really have them do it besides checking every day and they're doing a lot of work for me so right now I'll add old patches so I was cleared off there's no burdock's nothing like they destroyed it all so it's great it's just starting to come back now any others braze your typical feeder size so 50 pounds 80 pounds that's where I like them lately it seems like everyone wants to sell 100 you're 125 but that's what I have to get I like them so I can catch them by hand and throw them in the back of the trunk yeah oh so the bottom wire is 10 inches and top wire is 20 inches and if you were going to run just one I'd probably have a 1416 somewhere in there about knee high one just at their shoulder and yeah that's a good question too so I have one section of fence where I first turn them on the first pad I actually have three wires and the bottom one is six inches off the ground or eight inches off the ground which is great but as pigs pigs will follow that fence when you first turn them in there they'll follow it it's like they're just figuring out where they can go well then the second lap they start rototilling and they'll flip side up on that bottom wire and they'll short out your fence so that's also something you every day you need to check where they're at and make sure they're not throwing some you know throw once they got into the woods they'll throw logs up on that thing I mean they just you know they're playing and having fun they don't know they just running the stuff they start they start digging they'll run right into the fence and get shocked they just have no awareness of what's going on once they start working it's crazy but it's kind of fun to watch me have you ever had one get sprayed by a skunk no why is that a thing I don't know oh no I've never had any I don't know if they're outside you know no oh yeah no so I've never had any problems like that the only problem I've ever heard of is Joel Salton out in Virginia he had one like in all of his years of farming of doing this which is like 30 or 40 he had one killed by a bear so like well that's pretty good odds I can I can take that but otherwise no I've never had any I was worried about like a thunderstorm or lightning or something that they take off but they you mean you've seen pigs sleep at the fair you can't get them up that's the way they are out here too I thought they'd be wild like deer and they're not they are right away when you first turn them out because they're kind of funny but you know to try and catch them to treat them or to load them so to load them I guess back to that the first time we tried to like hurt all my animals right that does not work you can't hurt pigs you can't have boards but it takes a lot of work so all I do is I just back the trailer up throw a pan of feed in there and walk away and they love themselves and I shut the gate you know I just leave it there for like I don't know half an hour they just walk into the trailer themselves but I also run them back to my little shed that I have I just plan it out that okay I got to take them to falls in three weeks so I'll just make sure the paddocks get used down around this way and then that last week they end up close to the shed and then I just throw them in the shed back to trailer road they can't I got it set up so they can't go anywhere else besides in the trailer and the first man the first patch I thought my dad is really going to have a bad back or something or the big one maybe I don't know he uh we got loaded and I said the second ones are the next ones I'm not doing that and we just threw some feet in there and they climbed right down just crazy shut the door in there happy as can be laid right down so learn less learn there sometimes you don't always have to work hard let the pig do some work so any others leads to go quick these are just other things we do I stole these photos because I have these are salton style portable uh two foot eight foot by eight foot um I'm redoing all the steel on mine I had steel on before and it's way too heavy so I've got white pvc plastic going to put down now so mine's all tore apart that's why I didn't take any pictures of it but each one will hold 50 birds and we move it twice a day because they put down a lot of manure broilers never raise chicks that are broilers they they eat a lot and they get rid of a lot so we move it twice a day we got a water just like this set up five gallons and you put feet in twice a day and then that's it um funny thing about these chickens if you've ever raised broilers this is not to contain them this is to keep all the bad things away from them because I I wish I would have taken a video I've set the water and the feeder down and move them let let take in this off of them and the birds didn't move for 20 minutes they want to be about a feeder or the water they're just they are hungry hungry hungry hippos so this is just to keep the raccoons and the fishers and things like that so the birds will be in here the first batch I raised is three weeks just because it's temperatures really cool right now I have I just got my birds last week and I'll have them in the brooder and then into a second coop for three weeks and hopefully by then the rain and the cold and everything will be sort of done and then they'll go out into these pens and then after that once the summer is in all the batches they'll be in the brooder for two weeks and as soon as they have enough feathers that they're a chicken now they go out into these pens and they'll be out there for four weeks I put you at six weeks um I put you in the past at seven weeks and then you get a lot bigger bird and I I personally like that but my customers don't plus they have a little extra fat and the customer because some of them don't like it some of them do get a lot of flare-ups on the grill that's the one that they have so this is just a picture of this guy at Joel Southon raised them he runs all these like 20 different things and he just moves them across his paddock for his pasture he runs his wheat cattle ahead of him mows the grass down to four inches and then runs these birds right behind them I think the the numbers I read is 500 birds can put down up to 300 pounds of nitrogen per acre so it's a good healthy dose plus you're getting a lot of poultry you know you raise up I raise mine I try to shoot for a five pound dressed bird so that's a lot of meat too yeah I don't know they're live way like I said usually it's five or six pounds or four and a half to five and a half that's what I'm shooting for that's what the way when I'm all dressed up so they're six pounds seven pounds maybe corn I call them bowling balls that's pretty much what they are it's a child-size bowl I mean they are just intense cornstroses are desperate these are my layers this is my newest contraption I haven't even put it online yet to show it off um that's her layer hunt it's got mesh floor in it and I have this here it just moves around it'll spend a lot of time in the big pasture and all my layers just pile off the morning and it cuts my feet down by like two-thirds maybe they they scavenge everything we got a lot of crickets and I'm sure all of you guys have seen the worms lately because all the rain these guys with the nuts so and then we get a lot of eggs off now two people eggs are cheap right now but you have people like brown eggs that have been raised on a farm to have a little bit of a story to them and it's you know raising layers that's fun that's easy work it's like having milk causing you don't have to milk you know let's go out and get the eggs twice a day every once a day yeah you like ever have problems with like a pecking order yeah right away the name figured out and everything's good I also had two roosters at one point because I bought some I bought hens I thought they're all hens also the one morning one was growing didn't get all hens there was a rooster in the mix and while I had a rooster from our first hatches years ago things like four years old now there was a pecking order there there was a dominance factor but uh now I know I can introduce the new ones and uh doesn't seem they they shy but they there isn't a big issue and then our market garden I run I guess you call it organically grown I don't use any pesticides or fertilizer I just use compost and then uh compost line and then sometimes like an alfalfa meal if I can find it really cheap but I don't mainly compost lots of compost and I do 30 inch vets this is actually this is all a new bed that I'm building now so I'm killing off the wand slash edge of my property and uh so I don't have to deal with the side as much these are all spinach here that I over wintered I planted these on Halloween and I had a little tunnel over when I survived all winter you can see the plastic there that's all spinach and then this is carrot so that was an experiment too just to see if they live and they survived they don't look very good down in here and I don't know if they got hit hard with frost but we've harvested all these and then I have these are all cover crop and this here's some cover crop but in the winter time I store all my layers of my where I live I have a chicken coop well on a couple warm days I kicked them out because it was so nice I wanted them to go away and play well they tore up all this freaking cover crop was all winter I and they just destroyed it I don't know they ate all the little shoots and everything was crazy so that's what we're doing now that's our newest adventure yeah here's more of the plastic just suppressing killing the weeds and killing the grass can you do watermelon in there in oh in there yeah maybe watermelon doesn't it spreads out so much so yeah you'd have to huge it takes up a lot of space I did spinach because fish on its own without a cover it can go down into the teens with frost and and still survive especially if it's small so I wanted to test that and it did I mean we had however cold it was there was one layer of plastic that was you know two feet tall and that's all it was it saved that stuff and it was just little I just sprouted every plant was probably that big around spread out with four petals I'm like well that stuff's gonna get torched no survive so you're eating that and selling that now aren't you I haven't sold any because it's an experiment so I don't have enough to really uh but there's been a lot I just posted a couple pictures jokingly like hey look my spinach survived and I had people ask me like oh cool how much okay hold on you gotta do some math here but I like spinach some people don't I also do lettuce um head lettuce doesn't work well in the winter time um but the small leaf lettuce that you get at the restaurant sometime or they call it I think it's masculine mix that stuff works really well as good as spinach sorry but that's how you you you plant it just loose not in rows or anything and then you just cut it with a scissor so it's kind of harder to harvest plus it takes takes a lot of space to make a salad out of that stuff because it's already small there's some of my radishes I planted in the late fall too that was probably November when I pulled those because I mean radishes that's the only thing that grows faster than chicken I mean three weeks and you got radishes and they're good all right I think that's easy to button again I don't know oh yeah everyone but one yeah that's the underwear okay anybody have any other questions for Ryan all right thank you yep thank you I never thought I'd see the day what's that you go from showing pigs and sears and forage and 20 years later you're on the internet on facebook on facebook you don't know how hard that was I had a seriously contemplated that like six months I don't know it's been interesting it's interesting talking to people I get the one thing I don't like well facebook is I have more people talking and asking me about how I raise things which is great and that's something for you guys if you're going to raise the animals that's something you don't want to do you have to almost because they want it they don't know where their food comes from my wife's a teacher this is no kidding she had somebody asked they were talking about making or a carrot cake and they were talking and they go what's in a carrot cake so my wife's was listing off all the stuff because she made carrot cake and the one girl's like what there's carrots in it no kidding they had no idea there was carrots in carrot cake she thought it was carrot cake because they drew a carrot for christmas I sent her meat to family meat and she doesn't know that pork chops comes from pigs and steak comes from cattle she has no food I mean we joke about it but it's it's real it is I just find it I think it's our responsibility to we know I think it's our responsibility to tell these people listen you know sometimes you die you need meat that's weighted and you can't get a pork chop off a chicken absolutely because yeah I'm not I'm not going to talk one way or another about what's good or bad but just do what you do and tell people how you do this because it's it's crazy people don't know it's not a lot of them want to know yeah I mean we're in like where we live we're not you anymore but we're in Goliath long country people don't know if there's chickens in those barns they just think that some rich person put up a big bullshit that's all it is you know they got boats in there there's some people don't know if that scheme's coming out in winter time that's chickens kind of the same thing with people not knowing about like the livestock fair I was sitting by my pig pen and someone came up to me and said what kind of animals are are these and I'm like pigs and then they were like what do you use what do you use them for like taking meat they're like oh I thought you just looked at them all right all right thank you yep well last time