 What are the Sony properties, like I always forget? Uh, to Mungie. Oh, that's a fucking money maker as well for him, so. Do they still own Fantastic Four? Or has that gone back to Marvel? No, that was Fox, so Marvel's got it. Oh, it's Fox. So I think it is just Spider-Man. Well, they're going to make a lot of money from Spider-Man, so it's going to be great. Uh, is dying on Columbia? We are live, by the way. We are live. Oh shit. We're live. And now we can't, we can't talk about that anymore. Whatever it was we were talking about. Yeah. Oh, whoa. Right before this. My god. There's the rules. They don't like us, like it when we talk about that ethnic group, so we can't discuss it any further. Fucking white people. The worst. We keep that to ourselves. Not that we can make fun of them. That's fine. Fuck them. We just can't talk about them. Doggo people. Anyway, carry on. What about Polish people? It's kind of relevant. Well, the thing is, now you've got me thinking, like, what are Sony's franchises? So I just pulled up a list of their films. Um, they don't have a lot. They have Angry Birds Movie. Oh shit. Angry Birds Movie. That made a lot of money though. Did the second one make a lot of money? Does it count as making money if it's embarrassing? I don't know. They have Men in Black, but they've run that into the ground. Um, yeah, I don't think they're going to be making another one of that, at least for another year, right? Yeah, it'll be fine. Yeah, yeah, it'll be like Terminator, right? That ain't going away ever. It doesn't matter how much bombs. Well, I can't believe that they've already set to make another Predator. It's like, whoa, I thought we waited, like the time between sequels is getting shorter and shorter as time goes on. Um, Sony has our ability to produce garbage quicker increases or decreases our ability to pump out sequels. Man, oh, and uh, Sicario is now a Sony franchise, I guess, because they decided to make it up. Yeah. Franchise? Ew. Well, they made two, remember? They made two. That's a franchise. Oh, and um, they, they really specter. I didn't distribute it only. All right. That doesn't count. It'll release it during Halloween. Call it Spookter. Spookter. The villain is like a guy with a jack-o'-lantern for a head. I'll get you, James Bond. I'm the one who did everything to you. All right. I was the big bad all along. Don't think about it. No one can see. It's back to. No. No, what's that? Which one is that? It's the James Bond movie that no one saw, apparently. It's like the newest one. It's $1 billion. What? No one saw it except everyone's. The one from 2015? That's right. Which is the one with M dies? That's the one before that, right? That's the one before that, right? Yeah. Spoilers. All right. Spoilers for this eight-year-old movie. Yeah. Wow. Dude, I'm sure there's some people out there who get pissed off whenever I say Rose Buds the sled. So you never know. And there are people out there. Guys, did you know that Darth Vader was Luke Skywalker's father? No. What? Luke Skywalker was Darth Vader's father. Idiot. Didn't even watch the movie properly. I mean, that would definitely, you do it in all universe sort of thing, right? Star Wars is, that was his honest way to greatness. And I think that that's just going to be another, you know, the Marvel Universe is doing the What If series. And what if Star Wars does what ifs? What if Luke was Vader's dad? What if Luke was in character in the sequel trilogy? What if Leia was Kylo's sister? What if? What if it was well written? What if it was well written? What if Creep was well written? What do you mean for you? They are. They're like 10 out of 10s. Oh yeah, right. I forgot. That's right. Yeah, you're not allowed to say, you're not allowed to say what should be obvious, yet apparently isn't that the prequels are garbage films. You guys need to rewatch them. I like how you say that as if they don't. Like they definitely do. They just don't, you know, they still don't like them. Okay. Gosh. Look, I get it. There are some cool shots. All right. They're funny memes. They're fun. They're meme-y. They expand Star Wars. But I like the prequel era, but those movies are bad. They're just, yeah, just, it's okay. One of these days, guys, you'll come to terms with the fact that there are only two good Star Wars movies. Yeah. Speaking of Terrible Star Wars content. Wait, okay. So before we do that, welcome to EFAP Episode 115 with special guest, Mr. White Light. How do you do say? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm great guys. What's up? How are you doing? He's still in shock from our spicy hot takes. Yeah. I can tell you in his trembling voice. Five minutes and he's already like, Jesus Christ. So many topics. So many things. Oh my God. I didn't know it'd be one of those podcasts. Race. No, no, no. It's just the amount of abuse and hatred that you guys have espoused has broken me. The ratio of time to hatred is not bad here, huh? I think that's pretty impressive myself. No, right? Eventually you'll get to like it. But just fucking nuts. It'll give you strength. Well, it's good to sustain you. We're here to talk about something that's well beloved today. So it's nice as a sort of juxtaposition. But before we could get to that wonderful video game, I was going to say, what's our, all I know about your channel because I haven't watched any videos. I'm afraid. I'm a bad man. I may have seen some at some point, but what I've been, people always said me clips of you to like, like poking at me or something like would be this log. I'm not like Bullard. I've always like my heart. It's dying. What's, what's with that? Huh? Why haven't we had a war? Do you hate the long? Yeah. I see. I'm just projecting my own insecurities about my death from the video on to you. I mean, I was going to say, so it was pretty neat to see how long people just funny video and people keep taking it out of context. You know, I mean, I make one joke about how terrible a person you are. And everyone takes it the wrong way. Is if I actually meant you were a terrible person. Yeah. I got it straight away. You were trying to say that I'm amazing and that longness is something that I invented and that you're copying me. That's what, that's what you were saying, right? Like, it's just obvious. And these people, I don't know, man, I bet they like the last Jedi. Oh, my goodness. No. That's the longest Star Wars movie. That means it's bad. Exactly. So I mean, my death stranding video was just a parody. No. Did you get branding? No. It's great. Best game ever made. Well, I'm glad you enjoyed playing it then. I didn't watch the video. Well, they've got a cyberpunk collaboration now. Fring, you watch his video. Death Stranding and cyberpunk? Oh, wow. Yeah. You're on a rave. Yeah, you can ride it around in the motorcycle. That's right. I heard about that. I just find it funny that there's a line of dialogue in Death Stranding where the character says, like Mario and Princess Beach. It's like, wow, Kojima. You're breaking barriers. Silence. It's pretty infinite. He invented a genre. Yeah. The Strand game. That's right. You feel stranded in a video game and that's the Kojima touch. I like how you said that. He'd probably be like, ah, yes, it's working. It all makes sense. See, it's a strand. Strand means connection, but it also means stranded and also has something to do with whales on beaches that can't get back in the water. You think that he had that random thought one day when he was in a restaurant and just the whole game came from that. He wrote on a napkin. Yeah, he was at a Red Lobster once, chowing down on butter biscuits and this moment of inspiration. Pure artistic creativity. I have to make a whole game based around this one thought that I had. Attack on Titan. He got assaulted by this drunk guy and he thought, wow, this drunk guy is a complete fucking idiot. So he thought, why don't I make giant drunk guys who are complete fucking idiots running around the place and then I'll make a show about it. I'm looking that out right now. Also, they're naked. I'm looking that out right now. That one's just for me. That's important. That's just for me. Yeah. That's my personal touch. So yeah, so I guess it was nice to meet you and of course you probably haven't met any of these people either. From the left to the right is CJ, the cynical reviews. Fringy. Oh, hi there. I'm Moeller of course. And to my right is Rags. And I'm Rags, yes. I'm the top dog here. Don't want to give any illusions. Right, I want to establish this. Right off the bat. I don't know about that. I think he's more of a bottom to be honest. No, I'm in all places. Yeah, it shows what he knows. He assumes that bottom can't be dominant. Simple matter. It can't be. It's not about geography. It's about the mindset. Rags, geography is not like your... Listen to you. Your location. Listen to you. What? What? It was my words. We're wasting valuable time when we could be thinking about something far more important. Far more substantial. Well, yeah, I mean, I guess it's because we'll try and get through this opening topic a little fast. Okay. So Paul White light is able to not have to deal with this. But Mandalorian finished up. What was it? Two days ago yesterday, something like that. We as the EFAP audience knows we, we've been watching them been uploading them. You guys would have seen our coverage of episode six recently. Episode six as CJ probably knows the legendary episode filled with incredible writing and action intertwined perfectly. It just shows the cracks. You're talking about episode six, right? Yeah, the good one. The excellent one with... Oh, yeah. Because they put the leg in legendary in that episode. You might even say... They put the boulder in there. They put the boulder in there. They put the boulder in there. They put the dirt in boulder. White light. White light. You like mechanics in video games. What do you think of the idea of a knee weapon that can launch rockets? Knee weapon. You attach it to your knee. Yeah. Do you love it? I mean, that's basically the thing for the animation department, Julie. Well, I'm just saying, like, if you... It's almost like, hey, pistol or knee rockets. I think I know which one you're choosing. Just saying. Yeah. Do you fire them out of your knee or does it just make your knee go real fast? I think... I think it's a, you know, player's choice sort of thing, but I would probably just go with the firing rockets. Oh, and the ending changes based on which one you pick? Yes. Which knee, yeah. Oh, which knee? You use your knee rockets at the end just to cap things off. You see, this game, it asks you to confront difficult choices. Like, do you put the rockets on your knee or your arse? You know, these difficult questions. You know, like, Boba Fett does the cool stance of the putting his knee on the stone and firing it. Imagine he turns around, spreads his cheeks, and a rocket just flies out of his hands. And people are like, oh, my God, he's so cool. I call this one my Sarlacc pit. Italy. My asshole eats you alive. It's next gen, man. Like, oh, I'm so proud of... So we've got episode eight left and we've seen them chat, all right? He's the first superman to try to make his way to the galaxy while he's doing that. That's what he was doing between episode six and Mando season two. He was just getting that mod for his ass. It took ages. It took so much body. You know, I like the idea now, Boba Fett just going to the toilet and accidentally firing those off and blowing the toilet up while he's sitting on it. That's a power move. That's like, yeah, you'll fuck with me. I'll blow your toilet up. Yeah, his roommate comes in, you destroyed the toilet. I'm not working at 100% efficiency right now. Sorry. I thought you were saying that was Boba. Like, if I had the rocket into the toilet, I'm not working at 100% efficiency. It just flops out and lands at the bottom of the toilet and goes, flunk. It's not efficient. Just got to put it back in. Season seven and eight, we've recorded. Something big happens at the end of eight that has got the internet going wild. Disney Star Wars is saved. Star Wars is redeemed. Thank goodness. The writing is now through the roof, good. Respect to the characters given. You know, TLJ, it was kind of lame. But Mando season two finale, oof. Gorgeous. I had to give it up for Boba Fett. Give it up for Boba Fett. Also, green lightsaber, slicing through robots. Legendary. So you'll see our coverage of those things coming out in the next few weeks, probably. I've been having loads of copyright trouble with episode seven. I don't know if it's just because the video is longer and it applies different fucking copyright rules because I've never had this much trouble with Mando before, but it'll come out. And yeah, so CJ, what do you think, Mando? How's that been going for you? A bit disappointing, if I'm honest. A bit underwhelming. I don't know. I was expecting a little bit more from supposedly the best Star Wars content from Disney. I know that you guys are as well, but I'm really, really sick of how incompetent and stupid the Empire is. Oh yeah. Yeah. And Stormtroopers. It's beyond parody at this point. It's not even a joke anymore. It's just like, okay, they show up. You know they're going to fuck up and all die. There's no stakes. It's not a threat anymore. That scene, what episode is it where they go to that secret base where they discover the midichlorian cloning and then they escape and then they get chased by scout troopers on bikes and then two of them crash into each other as they go down the fucking mountain. That's four. That's episode four. Episode four. That's unacceptable. Dude, that was one of the fun. What the fuck were they thinking putting that in? That was a strategy. That was a strategy to lull the enemy into a false sense of security. It was great about our coverage of that. I think, I cover who it is. It could be freaky. Like we were trying to pass something out about the episode in that moment, about what was happening and why. And then they just crash into each other and it's just like, whatever the thought was, it's God laughter in series. I still find that funny. That is like one of the funniest things I've ever seen. Oh, God. What were they doing? Oh, I couldn't stop laughing. It's hilarious. But like, why? Why? It's like they're trying to meet. It's like they've embraced the meme, but don't understand that it shouldn't be a meme in the first place. Yeah. I think they've gone way too far at this point. Like even in the finale, this troopers, they used to just get killed because they didn't realize what was happening, but they will actively, is this happening in 6-2, they will just have their gun and their enemy in front of them and they just won't pull the trigger and they don't know why. They sit there like, why am I not pulling the trigger? I don't know. It's just not happening. Oh, well. Yeah. I mean, I get that. I get they're meant to be faceless cannon fodder, but they could at least try. You know, it's just not interesting. You're not going to catch any disagreements here. But were you blown away by the finale? Blown. It's okay. I didn't have a problem with that thing that happened. I just thought it looked really weird when it showed up. I'm honest. I just wasn't convinced. I've seen deepfakes look better. Well, yeah, I think it, I honestly think it just is that. I think that's what technology they even used. But I suppose we, you know, for the next five minutes, can we just do full spoilers? And I don't know. Come back in, there will be timestamps on the video version of this. You'll know when we stop talking about it. But I mean, White Light, I think, did you, how much do you care about spoilers? I don't know if my heart could handle it. Really? It sounds very serious. That's what we call the Disney magic. Yeah. Well, someone's told me to say, Boba Fett is cool, which means the show is good. Oh. Well, that person knows exactly what's going on. I was, I'll be honest, seeing Boba Fett shoot his guns made me feel like six years old again. And that means it's good. That means they're winning. Oh, wait. Oh, no, no. Disney, no. They got you. They're doing stuff now. So, yeah, what it you're referring to would be the fucky face that Luke has when he arrives. Did you, like, so a lot of people, like throwing around different tweets and stuff about how, like, ah, people are just trying to hate it for hate's sake. There's like nothing wrong with the scene. Nothing's right about the scene. All right. So first of all, the super droids should have broken in ages ago because for some reason they don't arrive on the ship for no reason. Like, they're just gone for it. There's so much to... Mando doesn't remember they can fly. For some reason he forgets that. They forget that because it takes them ages to get back in. I think they, like, triple in size a little amount when they get thrown out. There's like 15 or something, and then it goes up to 30 when they get back in. That's not funny. So Luke getting there was incredibly lucky. A more meta criticism would be it's a little bit lame to have your heroes all, you know, fighting this insurmountable odds, and then Luke just arrives and cuts them all down. It's like, oh, well, that worked out. Yeah, but it was Luke who cut him down. So it's that amazing. And I suppose for people saying yes, but he was in character. It's like, was he, though, would Luke arrive and be like, yo, that's my baby. Bye-bye. Or would he be like, oh my goodness. Did he even say I'm Luke? I forget. I don't think so. I don't think he introduced himself. I think he showed up and they were like, oh, he's a Jedi. I guess this is yours. So he wasn't curious how the Empire are here and functioning and what they're up to. He didn't want to know anything about why they were collecting baby Yoda blood. He didn't want to know who these people were and what their connection to baby Yoda is. If he had asked who everyone is, he might have found out that one of the most infamous assassins in the entire Star Wars universe was in that room, just looking at him. Pretty sure Bo Katan, different people have talked about this. She would care that that's Luke Skywalker. I think a lot of people would. He's the guy who killed the Emperor, just FYI. I don't know if anyone knew this. And yeah, he doesn't go like, oh, do you guys need help? Like, why were the Empire trying to kill you? What's going on? He doesn't care about anything. He's just like, yeah, baby, it was mine. Bye. So yeah, I don't think he was acting in character at all. He doesn't fucking ask anything. He doesn't say anything. He just says, hey, the Force, it's pretty deep. I got my baby, bye. And yeah, R2-D2 bleeping at the baby who then goes, Goo Goo Gaga. It's adorable. I cried when R2-D2 bleep. I cried when R2-D2 bleep. And yeah. How did Luke know they were on the ship? How did Luke know that? That's a good question. I can explain this to you super easy. If you paid attention, you would have understood it easily. So they went to the Jedi place with the rock and then Baby Yoda contacted Luke and then they went to a different place and Luke homed in on that signal because that's how that works. No questions, good. I'm glad you have no questions. Is that the actual explanation? That's probably the explanation. You with your explanation desires. You wanting to know things. I'm sorry, guys. I just want to know things. Yeah, that was your first mistake. I wanted to know things. And so, yeah, every element of how it all happens and why he's there is just bullshit. And everyone's like, it's the greatest moment in the history of Star Wars. Seeing Luke chopped out robots is like, okay. I think all that's happened is, wow, it is that easy. Yes. You know the keys and congrats. Because a lot of people are saying like, excuse me, this is better than TLJ. The response to that is, yeah, so pretty much anything with Luke isn't him getting peed on would be better than TLJ. So that bar is useless. Let's get this bar out of the room. Let's bring a new bar in that we can talk about like, hey, maybe something meaningful happens or substantive. Because I've heard about the fact that he says a talent without training is nothing and this is a line that's supposed to shit on Rey. Therefore, John Favreau hates the sequel trilogy. Therefore, we love Mandalorian. Yeah, it's all coming together. This is Disney playing the long game. Yeah. So I guess because we don't want to spend too long on that. We've got a main topic today. We might, maybe we'll return to it at some point, but we'll probably have a holy fap about it. Not like going through it chronologically because the minis will do that, but we'll have some people on. We'll just do a sort of round table chat about how great Mando season two is. It'll be fun. I don't know, is there anything else anyone wants to say before we get to a different topic for the day? Yeah. We have some rags. Okay. Yeah, I'm kind of fascinated by the response to that episode because all it has established is that it's really easy for Disney to just sort of win you over by just showing you the old stuff. I mean, I'm not talking to everybody specifically to the people who are going around like, oh, yeah, it's amazing. It's like, why? It's because you saw something that you liked as a kid and it's still really cynical. I don't get it. I'm surprised that it still works because when I was watching that episode, I feel like after that episode ended, I felt really hollow. I was just like... Yeah, deflated. They will see how a coverage of it eventually. We're all kind of down in the dumps because we know what just happened. We know what it means. I put out a tweet and I think some people may have seen it where I compare two tweets together and the funny thing about these tweets is that I saw Jay's first. Jay puts one out where he's got a picture of four different keys being jangled by a hand and he says, Mandalorian scenes but without spoilers. That's the joke. I don't know how well it was taken but it's not really the important part because it's fresh and I saw someone retweet something where someone says, I would like to acknowledge that Mandalorian gave us Dark Troopers, Boba Fett, Luke Skywalker and Ahsoka Tano all in the same season and it's framed just one-to-one with the keys jangling. That's what those are. They are brought in to make you say that. They showed us the things we recognize. That is the whole reason they're there is to make you make those fucking tweets. We are like, can we celebrate the Mandalorian Yeah, can we celebrate that Disney owns this franchise and has the money to get all of these actors and all of these characters and all this CGI. Like as if all of you in chat, and this is not a criticism because we would do it too, wouldn't use these things if you had this IP and you wanted to tell stories if we wouldn't throw Boba Fett in when we got different references to Mandalorians if we wouldn't have if your story is set when Luke is still alive and Jedi shit is happening. He's probably gonna come up. But of course, that's not something I think it's worth rewarding them for. Like well done. You had character. Oh and also by the way, I'm getting real annoyed that people are like oh see, now Kathleen Kennedy she had nothing to do with this. Like all that bad stuff in the sequel, that's her. But Mando, that's not her. That's Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni. Kathleen Kennedy is the executive producer of all Star Wars stuff. Everything that you say she ruins you gotta give her credit for too if you're gonna be like this. But also people forget that Jon Favreau was the one who directed the Lion King remake so he gets absolutely no credit for me. And also Jon Favreau. The show is bad. Yeah, the show is terrible guys. Also the show is bad. The show is fucking terrible. Do you feel like it's because people are because the sequels have been so bad they're kind of starving for any semi-decent content so they see this and like I've seen it before too as Stockholm Syndrome. I was gonna say, yeah. Well, it's where it's like secondhand Stockholm Syndrome where it's something that you love as being held hostage and you have to attach yourself to that. Yeah or maybe in a, I think Southport described it as an abusive relationship. You know, they didn't punch me today. You must love me. Oh no. Yeah, Disney didn't punch Luke Skywalker today so they made really good content. Yeah, I can see that. I realize that this is kind of just personal preference this one but when Mando started I wanted it to be a show that was totally divorced from like the main stuff. Star Wars, Luke, any of that. I wanted it to be like its own thing and now it's inextricably like it's just totally tied into it. It's downright greatest hits like that's what this is like hey, I want to see the cool shit that you like from over the years but here it is. Season 2 is full of fan service. Like as we've established, Mando Lord does really, like what is his character? I don't know. He's not really important. What does he think about? Does he really have one? A vehicle for other stuff. I think I said it in episode 6 it's like hey, what does Mando think about anything? Yeah. That's a question you can ask. It's so devoid of character. I think out of context people would be like you'd be in Ridiculous. No seriously answer the question. No, really. Like, give me some of his opinions and his principles. His personality, just like anything please. Something. He wears a mask he never takes off except for several times. It's the best part of the show. He says this is the way. He's got to get in one of those. So yeah, I guess our our coverage of the last episode has our more immediate thoughts I suppose and that'll be out and that'll be great and everyone can watch that and enjoy that. It'll be a splendid time we'll be guaranteed for all parties involved. It's going to be great. Can't wait for the 11 TV shows that we're going to have to try and keep up with impossibly because we'll be prioritizing Batwoman over them. Sorry guys, Batwoman is better. Batwoman's coming back and I'm really excited. Yeah, it's way more entertaining. It is way more entertaining and funnily enough Batwoman makes more of an attempt at certain things than Mando does. We talk about it. Yeah, like Star Wars fails and tries nothing. Batwoman fails because it's trying to do things. It's trying to have characters that believe things and it's trying to have themes and then it fails but it tries. That's at least kind of admirable. Well, not really. I mean, I can appreciate an attempt. Yes. I guess that thing is like as opposed to Mando where it makes no attempt to do any of these things. Like I said, we're going to, I think we'll try and get Drinker and possibly a couple of those who actually have gone through the show and we'll do a whole eFap just fucking ranting probably, we'll probably go through the episodes and just talk about the major plot lines or whatever but it's going to be a whole thing but that is not why we're here today. Did you guys hear a video game came out? It was called Cyberpunk 2077. I have heard of this game. I am aware of this game. I still remember seeing that weird trailer with the girl who's got blood on her and weird stabby things coming out of her arms and I was like, what? That was only a legend. Well, it came out. It came out a few weeks ago now. I can't remember. Time flies. Like a week and a half. I have no idea how we're going to structure this because there's so many different things to talk about it could be the game itself or it could be how it was released on different platforms or how long it took to make or how it was made or what CGProject Red have been doing outside of the game that aren't things that are preferable. We bounce around topics. Who wants to say what they want to say? Actually, let's reset here. We'll go from the left to right how long you've played it for and just a vague number out of 10 that you feel is how good the game is completely off top of your head and then we'll justify all of our numbers as we go across this conversation. So CJ, how long you played it and what do you think so far? I played it for just under 24 hours not straight, of course. If I had to give it a number right now I'd give it maybe a 5 maybe a 6 I have been playing it on PC so my experience might have been better than quite a few other peoples but yeah, I'd say like 5 or 6 Yeah, I mean who else left what else is left? Really? For you? So I've only played it about 7 or 8, hold on I've played it 8 hours, 8 and a half hours and I'm not super thrilled by it I haven't played enough to have a number yet but like it's kind of middling in a lot of ways I think there are a lot of things that we're not middling because there are things that I really like but then there's also things that I greatly dislike so yeah I've played it for about the exact same I think and I'm not pleased lots and lots of things annoying me about this game but at the same time there are things I think are pretty neat as well so I'm sitting probably on an even 5 and I'm hoping that once it gets a significant update of some kind that it'll bump right up and the number will change rags I've played it for 13 hours according to steam if I had to give it a number out of 10 so far all of this is of course tentative but after 13 hours I'd probably give it a 6 out of 10 5 to 6 let's say 5 and a half out of 10 not going to lie incredibly disappointed after the Witcher 3 and two stellar DLCs for that after the insanely long development time I had very high expectations for CD Projekt Red this does not live up to them in almost every regard it is a I'd say it gets a bonus from mixing a lot of things together but it's kind of just sort of a it doesn't really do anything well it mixes together fine into a it's it all kind of meshes together in a decent enough way to where you feel like you're getting a lot of different things but each of those individual components are not very well realized and your brain can't help but think that these are just inferior versions of things other games do well yeah I think like if I would I think it has an inferior sort of like open world to like rockstar games yes let's get to the old white light here white light go I played the game for a certain number of hours and I give it you gotta tell us it's the rules can't break the rules okay okay I'm sorry rags I know your top dog around here so I'll tell you and only you okay I won't tell anyone else actually 5.4 hours that's fine there's none wrong with that yeah not bad I wanted to kill myself throughout the entire oh jeez oh wow really oh my goodness gracious this game had me on my knees begging for Todd Howard's massive amount of mercy oh my goodness my fucking you guys cannot fathom how bad my copy of the game was wow really we're all on PC right like we all played it on PC yeah yeah high-end PC for me oh yeah definitely something unfathom it genuinely made me want to message Mauler I told him this earlier I genuinely wanted to say to him I can't do it I can't finish the game for the show I'm not doing it which would have been okay by the way I wouldn't blame you wait so if it was a number are we looking like 2,3 or okay so when it was working I'd give it a 7.5 when it wasn't working which was almost all the time I'd give it a negative 2077 oh my goodness that's really low on a 10 scale that's significantly lower than I would have expected bonus meme those were my exact words bonus meme Theo here has played the game a whole bunch and has a perspective too and I figure why not this is going to be like a round table eFap is that we're planning on responding to we're just going to have a big old chat about this so I figure Theo what's your thing that we just did my incredibly spicy take on the game is I've played it for 53 hours and I think it is okay it is middling I thought you were going to say it's phenomenal and then we can talk about how wrong you are I'm afraid not it's a 6 out of 10 or so I lean a bit higher because I like cyberpunk settings and stuff a lot their personal favorite of mine taste wise when it comes to ranking games numerically especially games like this I think it gets a little bonus at the end for how all the different parts blend together absolutely I'd probably say that my best because this is a game thing I don't think I'd do this for movies and in fact I wouldn't but for games I would it's a different experience those of you familiar with a game called 7 Days to Die is kind of one of my favorite games I've played it for many hundreds of hours it does nothing well none of its individual components are done well but they all mix together quite well into a really nifty experience which boosts it significantly but to piggyback on that in relation to movies there are some stories that I'm waiting for an ending to tie everything because I feel like I'm not sure if everything was worthwhile yet and if like there's certain movies where like a final scene can make all of the little bits that I thought had no purpose all come together I think it's vaguely applicable to some stories but I get what you mean sometimes it's not about how good the thing is but how you use the things well it's it's like a little it's like a synergy bonus like all the individual parts something can be more than some of its parts and I think video games are that Cyberpunk gets a little bit of a benefit from it because it's all no single part feels super out of place which is both good and bad it's all just sort of middling to mediocre and nothing stands out as stellar but at the same time it means that nothing's horrible it's all just sort of well like my perspective and possibly Fringies and whoever else might change once we are able to spend more time with it but like even in the less than 10 hours that I've had with it there's so much to say about things not working and also something to be said about whether or not those things can even be fixed or if they're fundamental to the actual game itself like if they're not bugs like the wanted system is dog shit people have been pointing out that the best thing CDPR could have ever had going to the news cycle because it covers up everything that can't be fixed that's right you see a lot of people online saying that oh beneath all the bugs and the glitches there is an exemplary game here and the more I play it the more I disagree with that I don't think there is an exemplary game here I think there is I think the game one day the game can be good I don't think the game will ever be great no particular part of it is like the driving is okay the shooting is okay the stealth is okay but mostly pointless the crafting system is okay but also pointless exactly right I tried to play it as like a Deus Ex sort of it's so much more satisfying to just pull out a rifle to shoot everybody well let me tell you a funny story by the way when I was trying to go for stealth I had this mission this guy called me and said hey we need to go into like this gang compound and steal a truck I climbed over the fence got onto the roof so that I could scope it out there were a bunch of enemies I had to take down so I went around I hacked something to distract one guy so I could choke hold another guy I choke holded him he immediately pushed me off and shot me dead with one shot because that was well above my level and I didn't realize what game did that what game did that what game did that oh many games do it Wolf is great Odyssey Wolfenstein Youngblood did that well I would you go into a particular area but it's fine but it did it fine I will defend Youngblood on this point I think Youngblood did leveled zones perfectly fine and you barely have to do any kind of grinding cyberpunk fails in so this is I would I would kind of consider for most games maybe for MMOs it's still for MMOs I can see why it has a point in the purpose but I'd say for the majority of games the idea of having randomly going into leveled zones that you cannot do anything in is an archaic game concept that I'm fine with having it die and never come back like builds in non multiplayer games builds in non multiplayer games yeah I think it's a traditional RPG tenet that is carried over into single player games and they just they're just shit because they don't contribute what they would in a semi setting and you could have Deus Ex like system I'd have to I'd have to think about that but I think that might be its own long discussion in and of itself though I will say I will say that like I feel so whenever you play this game this game is just like but worse the game the stealth is like it's like kind of Deus Ex but worse the shooting is like Call of Duty it's like Fallout but worse the RPG in leveling is like filling the blank other games but worse the item the looter shoot this game plays like a looter shooter looter shooter I got Borderlands feels so annoying it is annoying I don't know why they feel they need to have loot designed that way in their games but if you kill like 20 guys you'll find like five rifles with different damage values so you find that you're constantly swapping them out have you guys noticed this you're constantly swapping them out to get the highest damage one you could upgrade one you already have but like the amount that you upgrade it by versus the amount of components you spend to upgrade it it's pointless you may as well just pick up a new one from any of the street gangs I never crafted in 13 hours I felt no need to craft I have almost a hundred healing items I have hundreds and hundreds of bullets for all of these guns I have more guns than I know what to do with I have all this armor I'm finding what difficulty are we all playing on I'm playing normal generally when I play games I just play normal to see this is what the devs intend most people to play the game on it's what they probably put the most time so I just walked into normal see what is the cyberpunk experience that most people are getting and with the exception of a few points most of them being like when you randomly walked into a zone where the enemies will massacre you and you have no chance so just come back here later I guess I've never had any issues with combat or anything like that that view is weird to me as well for like an open world game to be told because that's what I discovered when I got shot dead in one shot is like oh this whole section of the city is just off limits even though you have even though you have important side quests there if you wander off and do an extra little gang busting mission no you're going to get ganked you can't do it in the game you can get it done if you're playing stealth but it's like if you're not playing towards stealth then you're just locked out more or less stealth is a really it's functional but in a way that it is 2020 and we have innumerable examples of how stealth can be done well and the stealth in this game is kind of lame it's skeleton you don't even have the option to like pick stuff up and like throw it to distract enemies I know you can do it with hacking but it just seems like a nice thing to miss out you know so I guess this relates to a story that I had this morning while I was putting time into it there's an ability that you unlock where you can jump on people from above and do a non-lethal takedown and I couldn't find out how to do it there was no tool and we'll get into the useless ass UI in this game in a second but I had to google how to use my abilities in this game because it wouldn't tell you I like the both you and I had trouble with the inventory thing dude it doesn't tell you how the inventory works it won't so like the UI in this game is fucking horseshit which is a pain in the ass because you're going to spend a lot of time in your inventory so you can have three weapons equipped at any time on your quick slots and your fists three I guess is the magic number I don't know if that number gets bigger later on why is it not four like most games I don't know but you get three weapons and if you want to change them if you want to change the key bind of your inventory button it is I whenever you want to go into your inventory which is all the time you have to press I fuck that it's weird enough that it's not in the key bindings like locked like so what I'd imagine is it says in key bindings you know access inventory I and you try and click it it's like no this cannot be changed that would be better than it not being there at all because I was just like what is my inventory I'm pressing all my buttons what is the inventory button I said oh it's I and I was like oh okay cool and I was like how did you I had to ask Mahler yeah I was like how did you find that out out of curiosity was there a tooltip and he was like no I just guessed I was like why isn't there a tooltip for how to open your inventory that's so strange I couldn't find it I asked Mahler is there an inventory in this game at the beginning and he was like oh yeah it's actually I it just never tells you this is such a petty gripe yes congratulations so this is this is only one of the UI things that is really shit in this game I'm just gonna say comprehension please I beg you people in chat figure out what we're talking about is either a small thing a part of a big problem or a big problem I believe in you I know you can do it right this yes obviously this game isn't a 5 out of 10 because it doesn't tell you what the inventory button is and you have to either guess or ask someone that's weird and that pretty much is the reason I hated it there were many problems with this game including did you guys know that the crafting system can actually corrupt your game file yeah you get 8 megabytes on your save file so it's capped at 8 megabytes and by crafting stuff you can actually increase your save file above that and if you do it gets corrupted and ruins your save true story true story yes wow unacceptable yeah I mean I'm sure we'll talk about that that's not a petty gripe yeah that's not a petty gripe I now just alright go ahead we're allowed to petty gripe everyone is ok moving on yeah especially when this is the death by a thousand why is the cursor a fucking square why is it a square yes thank you why is it a square yeah now I want to suck their sex's balls for a moment oh yeah again in that yeah because it greatly and let me tell you man I feel so vindicated Avengers game failed which means that they're probably not going to make another one yeah yeah to make a new mass effect the glory but also like dare sex I'm going to reference mankind divide because it's the most recent one I think the strongest gameplay wise like at the very beginning of the game it becomes really clear like the distinct play styles that you can adopt just by depending on which augmentations you pick like it starts it starts becoming apparent really early on how differently you can play the game and it's all supported by the level design which facilitates basically every mode of play and like building into a stealth one or sort of a mixed one lethal non lethal all of these options are immediately apparent from the start and it really starts to feel like the more you lean into it the more that those gameplay paths divulge I don't really get that from this game at least not when I say bill is that that's exactly what I mean what friend friend you just said because that's not restrictive so if you go into Skyrim it's the same thing however once you go into a build you're stuck completely stuck in dare sex however the gun is still a gun it doesn't matter what bill do you go the gun still doesn't matter the same amount of damage so this increases your options this is about constricting them yeah you don't level up very much I'm level 11 and I've played about 13 hours and I don't think I'm wasting time well I'm sitting down talking to a lot of people but I don't feel like I'm wasting time so you don't level up that much so when my well we're still on the UI so this is like the UI is like the icing that covers a game if you're your inputs are fundamental to what you're doing to the whole experience are the key binds things that I like do I do do I get frustrated every time I want to have something happen in this game they're just the this ubiquitous layer on top of the gameplay experience and a lot of people don't place the importance on it that maybe they should probably because they're used to having UIs be generally good across the board this game has a terrible UI in terms of item management which you'll be doing often swapping upgrades Deus Ex does better Deus Ex has the Resident Evil 4 inventory system of like you can take up different you know like how different things are different sized and then you can move them around and creatively try and maximize your inventory whereas in this one it's just like a big list of stuff that you have so it's cluttered like yeah it's not cluttered yeah I am I'm going to take a screenshot and I'm going to show you this because I have a booted up to remind me of all the issues I have with it so this is this is like a part of the inventory screen here one of the things that you want to do if you're designing a game especially when that a lot of PC players will have is you want to you want to do something called like like maximizing all the space on your screen right space yeah well yeah and that's well it it gets worse remember because that's because I have because I was going to go into one thing and it went to another this is what it looks like when you're not moused over an item and this is your inventory for your weapons and by extension you have tabs for melee weapons and attachments so look at all the empty space here and look at how they've decided to arrange all the weapons that's a really good point yeah just yeah and then no order to them yet you can change the order which is good how they're listed by like damage or types and stuff like that which is fine but then you go to the first one right there's a lot of games who have this problem for I love Guild Wars too but it has this problem and it noise the shit out of me whatever you mouse over something all of the info panels that pop up they cover up so much shit if this is this is really bad when you're trying to sell stuff because when you're trying to sell stuff and you click on things and want to sell them the item information pops up and it covers up all the other items that are on that list very very annoying how do you deal with attachments so you're going to be constantly swapping weapons because this is a game about having better numbers which is always fun you cannot equip something and have the option as other games do to would you like to transition your attachments to the new gun no you will have to teach yourself to always remove your attachments from a gun before you equip the next gun much in the same way how in this game which is a game about looting it's a looter shooter regardless of you this is a looter shooter game so we're clear you know how in most games whenever you go to a container and you look at it and you open it up and then it tells you what you got well day of sex is kind of sorry not day of sex cyberpunk is kind of the opposite where it tells you what's in the container before you open it up and once you take it it doesn't tell you what you just picked up which is the which is the opposite of what you want to do so when I'm walking through night city and I'm picking up I see a little container here and I open up and I see the thing over here and open up don't stop me before I open the container let me know after I've looted the container which is what I'm going to be doing 99% of the time what I just picked up so that I can read that on the side of the screen as I continue to play the game don't stop me right it's one of the like you'll have to train your brain whenever you look at a container to look at the bottom right of your screen to know what you're about to pick up so you don't forget it because if you don't look at that then you won't know what it is that's new that you've picked up you have to train yourself to play this game and I don't feel and not in a good way right like I'm learning a new experience remember take off my attachments before I swap weapons because then I'll have to go back I'll have to take them off and then I'll have to re-swap and then I'll have to add them on to the new one everybody in chat saying that it does show you sometimes it does sometimes sometimes sometimes sometimes it happens sometimes but things like how much ammo did I pick up I don't know what was in that container I don't know sometimes it tells you sometimes it doesn't how it lets you manage your just kind of everything between there's some little nice things like you could press Z to toggle between the different objectives that you might have on a mission if you have multiple objectives and then it shows up instantly on your HUD those are little things that I like but in terms of just inventory management it's a fucking pain in the ass and you're always going to be going back to your inventory to look at your ugly ass character so that you could swap between clothing pieces another little thing here which is very very strange that they decided to do so in your inventory under quick access you have your grenade on the left and your healing item on the right however if you're in the game the healing item is on your left and the grenade is on the right it's things like that all these little things that are on these just piles that are on top of each other this is a death by a thousand cuts kind of aspect of the game the amount of healing items they throw at you at this game is kind of ridiculous oh yeah you'll never run out I invested in a step forward and a step back with CDPR because they gave healing items in animation when you used them in the game which is I'd say a plus but you pick up so goddamn many of them that any sense of resource management was never there to begin with roleplay is an asthmatic yeah it's true did any of you guys have this problem where when you switch weapon it doesn't register so like sometimes I had to equip the same weapon like 3 times in order to get it I have an adjacent problem to that one of my issues not counting when my gun model simply does not decide to show up which happens in car chase sequences where I'm just having to eyeball it I have the issue of to pull out your weapon you tap left alt which I'm fine with put away your weapon you would think oh well it's left alt again no no no dummy that would be dumb if the same button to do a thing also undoes the thing if you press it a second time what did you do make a smart decision you have to double tap left alt to put your weapons away but that only works about half the time because pressing alt it's so inconsistent pressing alt a single time when your weapons are out means you swap to your next weapon so when you double tap alt maybe half the time you actually put your weapons away why wouldn't you just double tap alt when you're trying to put them away you switch to the next weapon yes is there any reason for it to be on double tap like any reason at all why can they bind it to a different key I don't know I can just press the button again because we already have the scroll wheel oh god earlier how like you look in the menu to key bindings to like figure out these things I went to the menu for key bindings to figure out how to holster my weapons there is no option there didn't even tell you what the button is yeah but like the inventory you are not allowed to change the key bind but people who are saying stuff like wow you couldn't figure out I was inventory it's like well I would have eventually if I just pressed all the buttons but like I even if you got a key bindings and the game doesn't say left click is shoot I'm going to criticize you sorry I can't remember the last time I played a game where I used I to open the inventory I legit do not know for me it's always tab that's the one I assume is going to be the inventory it's tab or something else or it's part of the escape menu or I re if it's I in another game I rebind it immediately and my brain doesn't even think about it because I is a shitty button for something I'm going to be pressing all the time also inventory screen that's my ugly ass character because all the characters are fucking hideous my character I'm not holding the gun by the grip a little detail but kind of a weird thing that they have in the game not sure why not but oh well oh yeah that's weird have you guys seen the people that managed to get a third person view of your character oh yeah that's amazing deep posing break dancing you got no head oh my god I've seen NPCs deep posing someone made handsome squidwood I thought that was great that was very good um hold on let me show you some of the graphical I mean we already know that this is a problem but let me show you just some of the graphical glitches that I've had for those who are salty and chat and wait for significant criticisms just give it time we're going through all things we're just talking about different things at different times chill out we're just starting with we're just sort of going over like UI graphical stuff and we talk about the sea button the objective crew can't figure out oh fuck you just reminded me of shit I think not that guy's just been so angry alright here we go what are we looking at okay look at those cubs oh my car did that yeah I got that one my cards this happens all the time it's not from collecting pokemon cards but they're glitches in cyberpunk but all the time them AI like you know NPCs walking around looking like minecraft characters some of them have no face I've had a lot of issues with texture loading and like texture pop up you turn around and call that and the NPCs look like they're from roblox are we doing graphical issues because yeah I guess that could be the next topic let me tell you a funny story because I did a mission I went to a dine and had a conversation with some characters it ended I got up and left and you know how normally it's meant to be like mission accomplished you know like it's meant to do that but it didn't do anything for about three minutes I was driving around nothing loaded nothing was popping up I couldn't open the menu like when I opened it it was glitching it took like four minutes for me to start playing the game again because nothing worked so many times I'm assuming this is a constant go ahead because this will be quick because I guess I've been lucky my bugs have been almost entirely graphical with one exception trees and foliage you could see it through walls sometimes and it doesn't appear to be shaded sometimes you just get really strange textures just won't load quite fast enough but for the most part it's been an unbuggy game the one exception to that as I mentioned being when you reload a game the it's like the instance of your game that you load back into isn't for instance I was in a part in a bar where I needed to go to a back room area where customers weren't allowed to go and I went to the door and I opened it up just to see if I'd get a warning or something like that as in all other games ever made and instantly Katana's in gunfire because I opened a door as a customer odd design choice but alright however so I reloaded the game when I reloaded the game to before I had alerted anybody they were still on alert when I reloaded the game they've got a weird NPC loading system often times when you quick load they will have actually changed positions the NPCs and perspectives this was a reload from a checkpoint it wasn't a quick load but yeah I definitely have the issues where let's call them temporal anomalies with the NPCs when you load back into a game I've had it as bad as I've turned around and there are new NPCs standing behind me and the old ones are gone like just turning around that's happening to everyone I have I have had issues with NPCs well I guess this is more of a narrative thing where you're at a location you call someone who's supposed to be on the other side of the city that you've reached the location and then you turn the corner and that person that you just talked to on the phone is here at the location because they need to be for the story I saw a bug on reddit and I tried it out just before the stream if you like fire your gun in the air just to like crouch and panic turn around and then turn back most of them will disappear oh yeah because when you're in combat it like won't load pedestrians yeah and then also like something that's really great is how if you go a little too close to a cop they'll just start shooting you they're just like and then other cops load in other cops just like blip in out of nowhere there's no way in front of you or behind you regardless of where you are there's no witnesses yeah I know right even grand theft auto 3 has the cops actually drive up in cars and get out and start shooting grand theft auto 1 I can simpsons hit and run track and ax to 2 transformers ds boys line sweeper but there's I had one regarding the cops and pedestrians so yeah they are this is clearly an example yeah this is clearly an example of a video game developer who isn't rockstar wanting to make a rockstar game and it shows I did a mission where I had assaulted this area to put a GPS tracker on a car and I was leaving I'd killed all the thugs in the area and for minutes minutes minutes after I had left the phone and was walking away it still said that I was in combat many minutes pass and as I'm in combat it never loads any pedestrians none empty streets it's a ghost town night city is a ghost town there's no one around eventually after many minutes it says that I'm no longer in combat I don't know how many meters away of I've walked away from the location at this point or who is still alive then almost as if magic pedestrians everywhere it refills the world with all of these people and it was fucking bizarre in relation to me too there's been a couple of memes back and forth about the the crouched unscared pedestrian it was I don't even know how early this is one of you guys might have done it as well did you do the first offer to do boxing did you come across that in the opening I did the first offer where you beat the robot well so for me I was like oh cool and I kind of enjoyed the fight and I was like this is going well the knockout punch for the robot it fell off the the platform we were on and it fell onto the floor just outside of the circle and there was a random person there who screamed when they saw the robot fall down and did the crouch and hands over there the head thing oh yeah I'm like that's a bit odd but you know fine you know I guess what I think I can do you one better no no no I'm not done that's not even the problem no keep going oh you better you better step it up like I was like oh that's that's fine with me you know she got spooked by the robot falling over and then I heard loads of screaming and I was like wait and I looked up and every single civilian that I could see in my field of view had now crouched and put their hands over their head and I walked around and I was like did someone like what happened did someone was this because of the robot and then a guy like I walked up to and no and ran away and I was like what what do I do impressive impressive mine my one of mine I said mine is if there was only one the scared civilian Saga will never end I was and I went into the the guy the firing range by your house I went in there and I was shooting at targets in the firing range and I came out and everyone is terrified and they're huddled and scared for their life with their hands up so yeah we're having all kinds of different things happen sometimes I'll clip into each other in a big clump and I'll be crouched with their hands up just in this huddled massive clipping civilians because I saw memes about it right after that it happened I was like wait is this common I was like Jesus because I thought that what happened to me was extremely random like it was just some girl got scared that everyone thought everyone would shoot at each other or something but it was near the um the firing range that happened yeah yeah um we cannot handle NPCs and it's full of NPCs yes have you guys noticed as well that the the driving AI is basically non-existent so they follow yes they follow very specific paths and then if you block them by like I don't know parking your motor bike in front of front of it traffic will back up for miles because the AI is too fucking stupid to go around you it's embarrassing he's spawning 15 years ago yeah what's funny about the AI driving is that recently I was driving someplace and it was a decently long ride and I was kind of curious how the AI could handle it um so the AI will not technically run lights because every light that you get to will be red but right before they get to the intersection it turns green so that your AI can continue on their way but their ability to turn and to do things is really really pathetic the pathing that they have in cars I remember I go ahead let me tell you quickly about another glitch that I encountered just before it came on the stream today so I hijacked a car from the passenger side and you know the animation plays where you like pull them out well it played but I didn't pull anybody out got in the car slid over to the driver's seat look over to the passenger seat and the driver is now in the passenger seat just staring dead ahead I will admit it's funny a lot of stuff in this game is really funny it makes me regret not streaming it to a degree but I don't think I could handle streaming it like my PC it's not running fantastically and I'm not even putting the stress of streaming on it here's one I don't know if it's a bug it's just a poorly designed video game I gotta remember to do that okay so afterlife and there's a little I guess an ambient event and this is my video I have oh yeah so this guy is on the pool table clearly fucked up might be dead his friends are going oh no man it's Carl fucking do something call a doctor Carl's gonna bite it and you're concerned about Carl here on the table and there's not an option for you to do anything or anything like that because that would be like an RPG instead you just watch this tragedy unfold before your very eyes now this guy is leaning over Carl there on the table lamenting the potential death of his friend that he clearly cares very much about if you press F to talk to him he'll say hey looking for a good time yeah I've got one of those I don't have anything else to go next I try to ram a woman with a car and she jumped out of the way and her response was keep your hands to yourself um the AI always get scared when I watch them they're like leave me alone yeah so NPCs have been so disappointing wait so we should probably I don't know if it really matters I chose Corpo what did everyone else do yeah me too it sounded interesting I'm a street kid yeah I heard it makes no difference well so that's gonna be the topic minor differences you do end up getting another side quest um oh there you go I thought it would be neat to have come down from like the business side of this city and then possibly rise back up or some shit you know and destroy it I don't know whatever this would want to do I thought it would be cool the opening of the Corpo place you're in the building I went around to every NPC about 90% of them don't say anything and I was like yeah and then like the ones that do speak it's just awkward a lot of the time it'll just be like one line and it'll relate to you in any way right now by the way I've got a game just a long play in the background so people can have visual reps of just the game in general from Le Cry youtube channel it's just a long play of the recording so it should help with people being like what the fuck are they talking about this is the game um so you know when you walk around good old fashion um wonderful night city uh sometimes you'll catch there's some there's some like wars breaking out little maybe gang wars or police shooting at people and stuff it's like you can help and I saw the police shooting at like old dudes and I was like oh I'm gonna be a good citizen and like um managed to take out two of them with the like uh non lethal takedown then uh one of them saw me and I shot the last two and I was like hey we did it and the police like walked toward me and I was like hey I don't know if I don't know what the game's gonna do here walked up to a press after talking she was like get out of my sight I was like oh I uh I'm the guy who helped you with okay like I'll just go like oh yeah the um this doesn't just happen with like NPC events and ambient events this happens in the main story um we'll get to that later on and dialogue and stuff like that um but we we can you know this is mostly so I don't forget so one of the things we're going kind of going back to some basic mechanics like stealth so stealth fucking kind of sucks I said it was mediocre earlier but then I forgot one of the reasons why I fucking hate it so there's a dodge mechanic in this game where if you double tap in a direction you'll dodge in that direction so this applies to always so if you're stealthing around you press C it has different binds for hold and toggle which I appreciate and I like however this hardly matters because if you're sneaking around and you double tap a direction key which is what you're gonna do because you want to make precise movements and you only want to move a little bit your character will dodge in that direction which will break stealth and leave you standing up yeah which is insanely insanely frustrating and this cannot be toggled off I could not find the disable double tap to dodge button similar issue I'm playing a sneaky man as well uh and so you know the key binding to toggle crouch is C the other thing C does skip dialogue in a conversation yes I often get kind of annoyed because my character standing there crouching around in a conversation looks a little bit weird so I'll hit C because I'm gonna stand up and have a conversation like a normal person and then I'll skip a big sequence of dialogue and I'll get really annoyed because for some reason those two those two things need to be on the same thing yeah that's not a small oversight as well that makes absolutely no sense it's bonkers this goes back to this is CD project this is not some company's valiant first attempt at creating a world that will have a greater sequel in five years this is CD project red they know how big the pc user base is for these games but they don't have things like being like I said like being able to disable double tap to dodge being able to edit the key binds of the inventory and just things like that very disappointing to see from them that might help contextualize a lot of the complaints that I've had so far we expect a lot for a game that's built for pc primarily or at least by a developer that knows exactly what pc is capable of it feels very console-y to be like you can't rebind any of these things you can't toggle them on and off the game really feels like it was designed around the console more than a release to use on a controller that's why a lot of the UI stuff and inventory management is so dog shit because it's clearly designed with a console in mind which is why you have a lot of totally wasted space tooltips that pop up in the way of things all the time a lot of just I wonder if it like suggests a really confused development path as well because I wonder if the decision to have it be to orient the controls and such like around controller came before or after they decided the game was going to be in first person because that seems unthinkable right you make a game in first person with guns and shooting and then you design it primarily around controller gameplay I don't know I mean when it's coming out on pc as well because mouse and keyboard is just the superior control scheme for yeah undoubtedly yeah the and it's not even like technically or at least it comes with the technical aspect of it a lot of it it's terrible it runs fine for me it runs okay there's that one fix in the config file that I linked to some of y'all that helped me out it's not something you should have to do it seems like a huge oversight but it didn't help me out they'll fix that I imagine with the updates the game looks aesthetically the game's aesthetics are good but it doesn't look good it looks like the aesthetics of the cyberpunk theme everything fits together with all of the implants and the clothes and the buildings and the cars and the guns it's aesthetics are good but graphically I don't think it really looks that good at all yeah I really don't downgrade from the preview so I'd say it looks decent though I it's actually an upgrade from the 2018 preview but you might be right about the ones that came out more recently but yeah when it comes to just the way that the textures and the the way everything kind of looks it's I've everything gone up pretty high everything's at least on high and all the anisotropic filtrings I just don't think the game looks all that good graphically I will agree there maybe that's what's bugging me is how inconsistent it looks with things not loading in and the draw and that might be what it might be it because when you're talking with people which is gonna be 67% of your gameplay the characters that are sitting in front of you look good the character models are good there and they're really well done but when you're just out and about and playing the game it's really not impressive at all it's definitely it's definitely like a big experience kind of thing instead of all the details I was kind of blown away I certainly wasn't I'm very I don't think I was ever been impressed by this game graphically at all even when you stepped out until the NCPD for the first time I thought it was fine I don't remember a time the thing that most notably I could think of that looks good to me is the rain effects on the ground other than that I can't get anything like that stands out my ability to judge graphics are kind of hampered by the game doesn't run too great on my PC yeah I would say that I was impressed by some of the internal environments and some of the effects and some of the character models oh sorry what's happening? I've had to switch to my phone temporarily maybe I'll try and reconnect to the internet again you sound fine I think it was delayed like he didn't realize with the gaps well he wasn't just randomly talking over you CJ don't worry no worries I thought you couldn't hear us maybe oh oh I don't know how it sounds at all so I can't tell well go ahead what are you going to say you should be right it was um when it comes to the game looking inconsistent I think it might partly be because the bugs throwing me off I think at times like the characters can look incredibly detailed but at other times the characters don't look very detailed at all like depending on how close they get to the camera like as if it's swapping between different like rendering kind of yeah I'm not sure if that is true but it comes across that way um there are certain but but I think yeah like it just it depends it varies in the way that it looks I agree and sometimes it doesn't look as great but I don't think it looks bad at all yeah I wouldn't go yeah I wouldn't say bad it it's it looks I guess like fine I guess but like just going through screenshots and videos I'm looking at this and I'm like this looks like dishonored too you know it looks okay it looks totally fine but you'll go to one area and it'll look really nice and then you'll go to the next area and like okay this looks fine I guess and like even the picture I posted above there with the chick like you look at her her model is good looking but then you see all the trash bags and everything next to her and then you're like oh okay I guess yeah um and uh I'm just gonna say that uh is the same for a friend of mine as well more specific issues it sounds like we've been a person who was reporting this but um as the game ran better in the first few hours than it has then in the latter few hours for me it's been getting progressively less stable which is really strange I've had a similar experience a friend of mine got worse after it was patched the not I just agree mine's been running better personally first 20 or so hours my performance was like fine and bugs were like graphical and not particularly common more recently I've been running into crashes and like more threatening bugs things where like my character will get stuck in place and that kind of thing I won't be able to pull out weapons uh and yeah it's it's been getting worse I'm not sure what exactly is going on I'm hoping it's some possible like some kind of memory leak thing and that it can be fixed in a quick update um but friend of mine said that um everything was running fine he met Keanu Reeves and then um like for every half hour after that it would just get like the FPS would be shaved off by about 5 to 10 every time until it started to get ridiculous um and for me it's just been maybe it was crafting it could be that it could be that I haven't been crafted so I don't think I don't know what's going on but um this is the kind of stuff that I think performance is getting better over time yeah it's interesting how like bug testing I guess is going to be the best when you release the game so everyone can tell you what's going on it was too late by then well it just seems to be that's that's the way to go these days right that seems to be um how many how many game breaking bugs have you had where it's either crashed the game or you've had to reload like a previous zero um like I said it's been getting more free yeah like two or three not many but still not that frequently because I've had one hard crash where the games just completely crashed and I've had it I've had four times where either the quest has not like progressed it has like the next step hasn't loaded so I've had to reload a save to get it to do that uh and there was one sequence where I was stuck in a brain dance and it wouldn't let me leave the option to exit just didn't come up even though I had sold everything and the objective was exit brain dance there was no way to leave so I had to reload an auto save which was 15 minutes earlier so that was a bit annoying but I've heard worse stories from other people about it's like apparently cynic snacks when he bought the game uh when it was released he couldn't even get past the character customization screen like it would just crash every time he tried to get past it I was uh was that console pc or I think it was console because um I guess we should probably mention we're only talking about pc because consoles have had a nightmare with this yeah this is the best kit console seems like a nightmare hit the crashing is worst on ps5 believe it or not the performance is worse than ps4 well I'm assuming everyone here knows but they did they pulled the game from the playstation store right for uh and xbox I've heard that xbox have given out warnings that they haven't removed the game from the Microsoft store just that they've said when you purchase it the warning this game does not function perfectly basically which it's like what a great thing to hear when you buy a game so so this is this screenshot you posted white light so this would be a good example of how all of the all of the things add up to make something really good but individually they're not all that great oh yeah right but they always are writing up um well that's the thing yet that that's why a lot of people I think either don't notice it or like I can really appreciate like this sort of thing the city looks great with in its aesthetics but you just can't look at any one thing closely or it'll break the you know but there's so much going on and it's very busy and it's very vibrant and it's very colorful and a lot of stuff's happening there's a lot of effects yeah kind of where it creates really an excellent aesthetic I agree with rags on this one because like if you look at anything specifically I feel like it's not like look at the ncpc sign it just looks a bit blocky and shitty I don't know like the tech yeah and like you look at the the you know the foliage or whatever and it's just like oh that looks kind of the blades look really what do you have a ray tracing like graphics cards or because that might make I have one I haven't used it because I I'll try it out just to see and I'll probably do that now right tracing performance drop is just suicidal yeah even if you have it that's the thing I just don't want to I want frames at this point yeah it looks fine enough and I don't care too much about ray tracing but let's see what's going on oh this is this is my oh I overrated my screenshot I let me show you this this is interesting because this kind of gets into the like the dialogue and talking with people in this game which is a huge chunk of the game so let me show you this because it's really weird okay let me screenshot there so I'm talking to this guy and based on some of your skills or your attributes you can give particular dialogue choices mm-hmm I have at this point a 10 in cool which lets me have I guess that dialogue those dialogue options that's pretty high especially for this part of the game I'm level 11 and that's pretty high for my stage I think it gives you the option to ask this guy no discount the prerequisite is 10 cool points and he says I only give regular discounts if you're short then fuck off that never changes so like why would you give me the option to unlock that as an option when it is a failure always it's completely pointless none of the extra dialogue options make any difference they just give you a little bit more flavour but it may you're right it makes the upgrading your stats to get those options completely pointless I would disagree they've made a difference quite frequently for me in terms of my life path and my characters attributes I have been able to use those in conversation and world things quite frequently yeah but you've used them but has it made a difference to the way the conversation goes does it change the outcome at all even if you successfully there aren't really any speech checks but even if you quote pass it doesn't really affect the outcome for me I've never experienced an instance where it has changed it just a quick example because I have the same experience with CJ essentially playing as the Corpo thing one of the jobs early on in the game they're like are you going to need to go to this particular building and it was like because you're Corpo you can say that you have familiarity with the building I was like oh cool I have familiarity with the building they're like yeah neat anyway we got to move on with this project there I was like oh okay that's basically an olive line as well the longer you go through the game very early it was pretty good the Corpo dialogue because you get a lot you can have loads of conversations with the Corpo stuff and at that point though it's superficial it becomes meaningful because there's so much of it I see you can have cool conversations I think I'm wondering that because there are Corpo options for dialogue that are in yellow which progress the conversation but there's the options everyone else gets as well which means that Corpo options I'd still get the other ones and that would progress it so it's just a different way to do the same thing because you have to build the game around that's like the same as Mass Effect though where like if you have Paragon you just have that extra option and then that changes that could change the rewards you get and it could change who lives and dies yeah in Mass Effect it does actually make a difference yeah it does make a difference in Mass Effect it changes storylines it will alter people's what they'll do for you yeah that's what I was saying that's what I was saying when it's a yellow one it means basically that's all I have to do is from the system blue means nothing yellow means it's actual it's just options but what I'm getting at though is that if you have an option that utilizes your background or your skills yellow then it means that's consequential so it is the same as like the Mass Effect Paragon Renegade thing at least functionally I wouldn't say that I would say that the yellow options are just what progresses the conversation to the next stage and the blue is just what you can do along the way that doesn't change anything it's just for you just use the player for flavor but it doesn't actually do anything and sometimes they create issues with continuity I think I was talking to the first time you talked to Evelyn Parker I had as a blue option an optional option I had mentioned Dex and so she was so that was the first time I had mentioned Dex to Evelyn Parker as a blue option however the yellow option right above it was mentioning Dex to progress the conversation as well and then when I gave her that option she was surprised that I had brought Dex up even though moments before I had just told her about it the writing the character doesn't recognize in their writing that you had already brought this stuff up so when you bring it up like you have to to progress the conversation they do the line of they've assumed you haven't talked about it before so they'll act surprised oh Dex you know the guy who gives you the eye in the beginning the optical upgrade or whatever the hell it is I went with the second choices in the dialogue that established someone I'm doing a job for and then when I carried on with the main storyline stuff he then went like so this guy working for him I was like yeah we just talked about that there's plenty of instances they they didn't assume people would use their options I guess so did they add the options afterward I don't know I find it really odd it feels like they kind of took that into account in some cases because sometimes blue options will lead to yellow options but you know not consistently and it's hard to tell exactly when that's going to take place which gives the impression that they wanted something of a more free form dialogue system with more branching conversations that I don't know couldn't fully realize it I don't know yeah maybe it feels like dialogue light I feel like conversations are going to for the most part always end the exact same way it's just how long it takes for me to get there really and characters often tell you things that you should be very aware of as a person who's lived in Night City this long doing what you're doing for as long as you have mentioning like certain parts of the police like the elite police and stuff like that they'll like it will be explained to you what those things are when you you of course know what yeah it's like yeah I know what those are I've lived here you're my partner we've been doing this for years you don't have to explain to me what that thing is it's clearly for the player but they couldn't I guess come up with a clever or narratively interesting way to give you that info so well the story itself I don't know I guess we're going to get into that or can I just say I think the dialogue is not that great I don't like it I like it the dialogue's delivery is mostly good but what people are saying I don't know if I agree with that I think V male V is grating sucks yeah male V's voice sucks he's very like he's like V yeah that kind of thing sounds like he's trying to be cool yeah he's always talking with the 80% of the lines he delivers regardless of context are the exact same inflection in tone he's just gruff he's just gruff he's like he is actually corpoganics yeah we've got to talk biz alright yeah I was going to bring up that like oh we got some biz he has the deets let's have a convo in the enviro it's going to be hella nice just give me a millisec dude that was so cringe give me a millisec fuck off yeah but that's the slang of the world for that. I don't like it for anything. What do you guys think of the word chum? I don't know. I hate it. I don't know what it means. It's just like a derogatory term. No. No, no, it's friendly. What is it? Oh yeah, I can't even. Or it's gunk. Gunk is the. Yeah, gunk is your market. Yeah, gunk and a chum. So not shum. We're not talking about shum just to clarify. Not shum. Gunk and chum. Okay. Gunk and chum. Deriving from chum. No, it means friend. Okay. Chum is a catch-all. Hey, you got the deets. I got the deets. And also is it a little, isn't that inconsistent? Like if V is a corpo, why would he be using this? Wouldn't there be different short hair depending on where you're from? Also, I don't know how much I appreciate adding these sorts of words in when everything else is normal. Like the language itself is just like, yeah, there were just words. It was like deets, biz and convo. These words could be used in an hour day in timelines. People find them cringey. So that's why they don't use them. I don't know. My opinion on this is half baked. I'll agree. I need to play more of the game before I can speak more on this, but I've been finding it distracting. The amount of fucking times you'll say biz. It's like, okay. Yeah, so many deets. Like, come on. Let's talk biz. I mean, to be fair, it is very difficult to write slang for like any kind of futuristic setting and have it sound good. So don't just try too hard. I feel like I'd rather people don't. Like it kind of reminds me of like, you know, in fantasy novels when people use these weird, it's just say fuck, right? It's fine. Just use the insults that we had. When they all say frack. You know, like, I know what you're trying to say, but it's weird that you're not saying it and you can't be. So just say a different word. Do they do that to avoid a particular rating in battle? That's probably what they do. Yeah. Because they do it in farscape. They have a frail instead of fuck and Dran instead of shit. Somebody just did it in chat, like storm you fringy. It's like, yeah, probably some from some stupid fantasy novel. To be fair to the male V's voice actor, I do feel when he was, we're allowed to spoil the game, right? Yeah. I think. Are we allowed? When he's waking up from being dead. Well, is everyone... Yes. Have we all got post the prologue? Well, that's the prologue, man. Come on. What's the prologue? Act. I just wanted to clarify if everyone's okay with it, then yeah, I don't know. Well, I know what he's talking about, so it's fine. As long as it's like first act spoilers, I'm fine with it. Sure. Go ahead. Okay. So when he's waking up from, you know, getting Keanu Reeves. The way he sells the, you know, oh boy, I'm dead. I'm going to die again. I'm scared. He did that really well. I think he did do pretty well in that scene. It was kind of... It was really stark, because I'm like, oh, wow, you're actually doing good now. What's... Be more like this, just throughout the whole game. Like, you know, I just would prefer... Shining light. Yeah, those parts are good. So I wonder if it's just an issue of direction in that case. The actor is totally capable. I mean, he was in those scenes, I agree. So it's like, what was he told to do for the whole game? Like, I don't know, just played like... I don't know. I don't know what the character really cares about, or what his motivations are. I guess a lot of it is supposed to be with me, but I don't feel like I'm playing me as him. I feel like I'm being him. I feel like I'm being... Which is a problem, because he's not as good as Geralt. Yeah. Yeah. It's not really explained. I guess what he wants, except maybe to make it rich. I don't know. Well, it's like when a dialogue option pops out later in the game, like you'll get some options of something that your character might want as a motivation or a desire. That was the first point I'd ever even thought about it. So I decided on the fly, I guess I went that. I guess I went that. Yeah, sure. Because I don't really know up to this point. I'm just sort of going through motions of playing a game, and my character's not even like a character. And it's kind of like... There's just no... Either have me be a character who has clear desires, motivations, a personality that I can experience and enjoy, or have the character be a blank slate that I can be them, essentially. They are me as the player, and I decide all this stuff. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. Yeah, don't try to trick me. It's one, but it's really the other. And give me, like, fake dialogue option. Oh, fuck, with the things that your main character says, I'm constantly screaming at the screen because I'm like, no, just say this thing and clear this up. Just say these words. Like, why are you not doing things? Just say this thing, say that you didn't do this, or say that you want to do that, and just clear up this whole issue that we have right now. Very oftentimes he doesn't say things that I know that he knows, and he just won't say them to the person he's talking to, and it's just frustrating. I see that people are still hung up on the whole thing of, like, fake insult words, because apparently I've insulted, like, a book series that people really like. You guys do realize that when I say that something is stupid and I have no context for it, I'm not shitting on the actual book series, all right? I haven't read it. Just chill out. It's a joke. Wow, Trini, you're the worst. Did anyone else notice how they call girlfriends? They refer to them as inputs. Outputs. What? Yeah. No, it's input, isn't it? Not output. No, it's output. I thought it was input. It's output. Why would it be output? This guy's got a bitch. I believe it, but why? I'll give you one guess. Well, I guess they're an output for something of yours. I will give you exactly one guess. Yeah, you're the input. They're the output. That's how it works. They're also an input, because technically they act as an input, but it doesn't make sense. I feel like that. This is a philosophical discussion. Yes. We need to break it down. Only the top tier quality content and discussions here, folks. So someone said, if this game isn't an RPG, then neither is Witcher 3. So listen here, right? Witcher 3 has failings. However, narratively, that is absolutely a role-playing game. That is absolutely an RPG. The options that you choose and the options that you take and the things you tell people will drastically change where the story goes. Not just the main missions, but a lot of the side missions as well. And the things people say in the believable way that they express themselves. That game wasn't that mechanically RPG-ish. I don't feel. I think there were too many clearly correct options to take. But this game is just like... I feel like I'm... This game shouldn't feel like I'm on a train track. But I feel like I'm on rails with this game and it seems too large-scale that I shouldn't feel that. If that makes sense. But what was marketed as an RPG? It does feel a lot more linear than it should. It does feel very linear, yeah. Well, is that an issue of... when you replay it, it might become apparent the ways in which it diverges? Because I know that my Maelstrom play-through was quite different from the... Well, I'd say quite different. It was different from the demo that they showed like two years ago. Because they give you that chip that you can pay with it. Wait, what, sorry. But was the demo ever something that you even actually could do? Yeah, so the demo was the Maelstrom gang mission where you go to get the bot. And I think I talked to Morley. He didn't call the corporate agent, so he went there without any of that. So he had to like pay with his actual money. Well, I refused and killed him all, you know. Yeah, so I talked to her. I got the chip and I fixed it. Like I took the thing off of it that would have destroyed their systems. Yeah, the Maelstrom gang helped me fight against Militech. So that was like quite different from what was shown in the demo. Or at least different in the sense I still had to fight the bad guys, but like there were different bad guys. And then I had a different outcome. That stands out as like the one example that I could name in this game so far, like that one. I clearly could recognize the options of where I could go based on my decisions. And I could be in hindsight to be like, oh, if I would have done this, then it would have played out like that. But maybe I just have been unlucky in all the side missions I've been doing. But that is the example that I go to. And that was many hours ago. I think the game needs more of that and it's just not there. Well, I guess my thing is I'm not comfortable in saying yet whether or not I think the game is linear or not. I think I need to replay it to see how different I can make it. Well, two things need to happen. More time with the game and for them to fully release it, quote unquote, because right now it's not in its final state, I imagine. There are major choices you can be made that can be made to affect the ending. It's probably even bigger than the prologue. I've heard that. I've seen some fairly major distinctions between how... There are six distinct endings. Some of my friends' playthroughs have gone in terms of certain main quests and a few side quests, like how we were handled them. So I've seen a good amount of variety, I would say, I guess, in terms of just from talking to people, I'd need to play it again myself a few more times to fully check that, of course. Yeah. Hopefully it opens up. Hopefully it feels less linear. With how these missions play out so far, especially the main missions, they seem like... It does seem very linear how things happen. Someone in chat said, it's not in its final state, and CD Projekt Red said that months ago and everybody ignored them. That's absurd. I don't know. That's ridiculous. Didn't they say it was published back in January? I said that as an insult, not as a concession. That's not a good thing. That's a bad thing. Yeah, once it's for sale, I don't care if it's not finished. I have to pay money to get it. And I find it fascinating the arguments people are making in defensive CD Projekt Red when it comes to all of this, people saying, you should have expected it to run like shit on Xbox One. It's like, oh... That's a ridiculous argument. It's for sale on Xbox One. It should work. It's available on that system. If you actually make that argument, you were more... I'm sorry. Well, I think the problem is, I think the big problem is a lot of people are like CD Projekt Red stands. A lot of people think they're like the best developer in the industry and that they can do no wrong because they made the Witcher 3. All this has shown me is personally, I think that they very deliberately cultivated this goodwill, almost like a cult of personality around this company. Like, look at us. We don't do microtransactions. Look at how great we are. We say things like, we're sorry. And then we say that you can get refunds except we didn't talk to Microsoft or Sony or any retailers at all about negotiating anything with refunds. So it makes us look really good even though these companies are the ones who bear the brunt of that cost. We try to perceive the public about the state of the console releases. There's no getting around that. They knew. They knew. They had to know. And they didn't show anybody. And they aren't the only developer... Because is it Santa Monica Studios who make God of War? Like entirely a single-player experience and it's no microtransactions and no DLC and fully released. All they had to add within the first month was it was like New Game Plus. That was the only thing that they didn't have or one of the most significant things because the game functions. As much as people have criticisms for God of War 4 which I'll call it that for the sake of gravity it was complete and it functioned on all the... I say all the platforms it was released on it was a PlayStation exclusive, right? Yeah, PS4. So just... I wouldn't want it said that because CD Projekt Red do all these awesome things we should give them some breathing room for a game that doesn't work. I don't know about that. I think it's just like fundamentally like they've kind of been quite deceptive because when it came to the Xbox and PS4 versions all of the review copies were for PC the embargo was until the 9th the day before it came out and I also like how in their thing they were like we please kindly ask you not to stream the game before that we'll send the legal team after you it's like you're not asking you're telling me why you're telling me that you're asking me and reviewers weren't allowed to use their own footage they had to use footage that CD Projekt sent them That's bullshit. That should set up Red like if I was a reviewer and that was the guidelines that would be the header of the review because before we talk about the game y'all need to be aware that they have all these stipulations and stuff also I've seen people say like oh that didn't have enough time to finish the game it's like you guys realize CD Projekt Red is an independent developer right and that CD Projekt Red are the developers and publishers of this game it's all in their hands I feel like you can trace all of this back to the first release date because if they didn't you know they had to not delay the game again but if they weren't on their third delay to begin with and so if they never set the first release date in April none of this would have happened it would have been pretty much fixed and they wouldn't have had to fuck everyone over we wouldn't have seen that side to them ever It's so bizarre as well because they got so much credit in the first place from the coming when it's ready line of approach to this game so everyone was like yeah they're going to take their time with it they're not going to rush it we're not going to get a half-baked product so to then turn around and end up having to rush it and setting unreasonable deadlines somebody said something that annoys me yeah so does every public company but the majority but the biggest shareholders are the senior managers 24% of the company is owned by the two people who founded the company but also all companies have shareholders you have to if you're giving this part of space for them we owe it to EA has shareholders Battlefield 5 that launched buggy but they got shareholders just because they have shareholders doesn't mean they shouldn't be criticized and I've heard that they're losing about a billion dollars because of this Jesus well their stock value is plummeting their stock price is plummeting and here's something that's insane by the way guys CityProject Red is higher valued as a company than Ubisoft that's insane that is insane because they own GOG this comes across we mentioned the GOG thing yeah yeah for those of you who don't know GOG is owned by CityProject Red they recently took a game off of GOG called Devotion I believe because it had a small joke about Xi Jinping and they came out with a statement on Twitter to say oh god the statement we've gotten a lot of messages from gamers concerned about Devotion so we're pulling it from the stores oh shit it's such a pile of horseshit with China nobody believes it so yeah CityProject Red bent the knee to China and nothing will undo that this is the last thing you ought to do at this point would you do that when you're dealing with all of this yeah they make so much money from China just like everybody else so it said they didn't take it off they wouldn't put it on Devotion it's just how it's a good clarification I appreciate it was on Steam and then it got removed again because of this same game it was on Steam a while ago it got taken off because Chinese quote gamers review bombed it damn you Chinese gamers so yeah China's shit and I fucking hate China if I'm bigoted towards anything it's the fucking Chinese I don't give a shit it's because of stuff like this I don't fucking care man this is the kind of shit I just can't China makes everything worse China makes everything worse everything fuck that shit I hate it it bleeds into the rest of the world and it makes everything literally even everything you don't like Kung Fu Panda I don't like Kung Fu Panda I don't like it's fat face I just fucking hate it I just fucking hate it how it bleeds into everything and how everyone's bending the knee ugh I hate it shouldn't be like this shouldn't be like this but yeah and now CD Projekt Red everyone on the pile and this happening right next to the release of Cyberpunk has just it's the kind of thing where they're under the microscope right now and doing that at this point is like everyone's like why would you do it oh watch out you're showing the footage of like the seizure inducing thing on stream wait you'll have to be more specific oh that's a good point yeah is this seizure inducing seizure so you might want to take it off I mean it can't well yeah but surely all kinds of shit that we've shown on eFat before could induce a seizure I don't know but there's no warning that's the problem I'll skip ahead I'm assuming like 10 minutes or so is probably enough it's just the flashing light part oh yeah it'll be over now yeah yeah from what I understand the issue with that is that it's specific it very closely matches what doctors use to induce seizures for medical purposes we so the chat is saying it was fixed in the day one patch I wasn't aware of that okay how do we feel about braindown segments because I fucking hate them I think they're actually one of the coolest things about the game I'm ready for them to be really cool yeah I that's my take I was like oh there's so much potential here and then I realized oh there's just a list of things to scan they handhold you throughout it exactly what I was expecting it is exactly what I was expecting I hoped it would be more and the first braindance gave me hope but no it's exactly what I would expect from a system like that it's just a cycle through a menu to highlight the glowing things to proceed through and it's an interesting concept in world yes strip it down mechanically you've got three visors to search through and here's the points in which you have to search that's it's the same as the Witcher 3 that man detective mode but better but better I don't know if it's better I don't know I would argue it is but I agree with the whole hand holding thing everyone's way too eager to have systems like that just don't have it concern for players not being able to so say for example there were no indicators for where the important thing is and you had to search it all yourself I wonder if they play tested it and too many people got lost like they couldn't find what they were supposed to I can imagine so there would be things they wouldn't even think of checking yeah yeah with my I'm always happy to get through them I'm happy when they're done and I never go yay when they say alright we're gonna do a braindance can I play the game instead exactly well yeah I would rather just that's the sad part I'd be like oh just get me ahead of it like whatever I was supposed to find because you're only going to guide me to finding it anyway so just yeah I don't it's fine yeah it's it's just not interesting the first one the game's telling me like okay you'll have to carefully map out find where the thing is and find all of the security systems so that you're ready when you go in there I was like am I actually gonna have to do this and you know keep note of what I found and stuff and of course I did yeah not only I thought that was interesting because it was optional I was like oh yeah I'll work a little harder to get a benefit sure and it's like you have to check security systems and I was like oh so next to the elevator I thought there might be some there and I found one I was like okay neat and this was before I'd realized that it's all tagged in the I thought optional stuff wouldn't get tagged in your timeline thing like yeah I was like surely that'll be untagged because you have to work hard for it and then I realized slowly that's like oh wait no it's it's all there damn crying shame yeah and some players might be like why is that bad I guess because it's tedious and it's a waste of time there's already so like heat visor mode you go through the recording and you're searching for like you know spots of light maybe and you're just like that's cool enough to me but when you got spots of light also in this time frame it's like based on where the person is walking it becomes incredibly easy you're just like yeah I just am waiting for the color there okay done yep that's the one yeah that's what I was doing I was just like tabbing shift all the time tabbing shift I was just tapping shift a bunch as I just played the footage through so I could in a corner of the room or whatever so I could just see the things that pop up so I could click them to get through I think it's a cool idea world as a game idea that got half assed yet again the Sunday again will come around to put saffa into its detective mode type thing but hasn't I think it's I think it's weird to play a detective segment because it's hard for me to imagine male v doing anything smart what if you upgrade intelligence he still says all the same things and I'm just like man if I was in charge of this conversation it would be just so much better and more interesting and I would just catch on to things that he clearly doesn't and I'm not I just joined this world like 10 hours ago and I feel like he was written as a street kid yeah I could tell yeah which is a shame because I chose Corpo thinking that there would be this element of high-class corporate espionage that's what the choice was well yeah I thought you'd be this fancy suit wearing well spoken character who was used to the four-star hotels and the intrigue of the corporate life and the data and all that stuff but no you're just it all just it doesn't really matter except for a few dialogue options and you talk the same that's the thing I was looking forward to underperforming with like street smart shit I was like that'll be fine with me like if I can't understand or make it through or get better deals with like street level stuff but at the same time whenever we're dealing with higher up stuff I'll have insight and I'll know how to move around people or whatever else but I was just like I'm starting to wonder it's like why did you think that it's like I don't know I guess I had high hopes for this company that's what you would hope would be the case when you're being offered alternative life path yeah but it's very very clear that the game was designed around street kid and street kid was the one that was taken into account the most because I'm honestly of the opinion that the game stuck in this really uncomfortable middle ground where it tries to be open but it's not open enough in that regard but also tries to be specific so you end up mostly feeling like a street kid anyway but every now and then you can kind of be a corpo or whatever in a few select instances in which case I'd say it might have been a good idea to just have V be like a Geralt's character where it's clear that you are not V whereas the game tries to it's caught in that yeah caught in the middle ground where it's like your V but also V is like a character with motives and stuff like definitely a weird combo yeah but he sort of does all the things to do so that's made my experience work a lot better in that regard and my role playing is benefited from that because you feel well considered and I can naturally insert myself into situations because it's what my character is built around it's kind of where they come from just to say your character is named V you're a street kid in Night City and then the you go from that point on because I thought like all the different fixers that you would stick with would change sort of what becomes your main area to work in and who you go with might determine oh if I work with this person who's like really rich and well to do or if I do all these jobs for this one corporation then maybe I get a more high life path that puts me on this kind of track but I don't know I guess I'll have to play more but I just don't really feel like feel like they're just quest vendors and they're only different aesthetically it's just kind of in what I've the spawn count makes a good point he says that I felt Nomad was the one that the game was written around and looking from that perspective it makes sense because as a Corpo it's a joke but as a Nomad you've got the whole Pan Am stuff so it might actually feel like wow I've been told that Nomad is the one that the developers want you to pick I can tell that they didn't want me to select Corpo as someone who selected Corpo the shit that they have you going around and doing in the game and the general way you conduct yourself to places you hang out or to people you associate with it all just screams street kid yeah you're not this isn't the person that you would actually be or someone who knows all about the corporate life doing those jobs working that kind of security or being an enforcer for a corporation and the things that you'd see in the day to day of your job doesn't it all mesh with you're just some you're basically a common street thug who's just talented yeah the the Corpo intro feels like it could have been stapled onto the game once they were close to finishing it or something yeah it's and even in those segments you still talk with Melvie's voice you still don't particularly carry yourself in a certain way that you'd expect for someone who lived that corporate life and was in that game it does feel like an afterthought the more that you yeah now that you've mentioned it and I think about it it does feel like that because I thought it was neat when I began the game I was like oh I'm in like the probably one of the highest buildings was important corporations I'm going to be used as a sort of foot soldier for some other business guy and I'm going to get torn right down to the bottom I was like that's cool I like this and then I was like oh yeah they set up the Abernathy subplot and then do nothing with it it's just like yeah you go to the bar and you're like oh no actually no you're not with the company anymore and you're like I don't even really know it's weird I've partially forgotten all about that because I when it happened I was like oh this is going to be this will be interesting that how all this plays out because we're jumping right into some big thing that's happening but it's like you know mainly just to set up how you got it's to put you back on path of where you would be had you chosen what I assume would be the other two yeah yeah the meeting point for all three paths yeah like how come if I'm a Corpo like how come I'm like Jackie's my best friend yeah I was I was thinking about that what an odd best friend to have if I'm a Corpo guy that was the most jarring thing about Corpo actually is calling up some random guy called Jackie who's clearly just a street kid like why does he know this guy I was genuinely curious about that I was like is he like one of my thugs or something like why is it's kind of strange but you know I was like oh shit he's like he's not just my best friend he's like a guy who I rely on like he's like my someone said it works thematically it doesn't because I didn't have a choice maybe that's the theme I mean if the theme is you don't have a choice but it's also yeah you gotta work your ass off to be the best in Night City and you gotta do some crazy shit and the games like actually know this is the only way to go and you're a loser now I was like oh well that's not thematically as the appearance of being thematic but this is a video game and my input should sort of matter if you're talking about who wins and who loses so how the game is built almost feels like they wanted almost completely separate Corpo Street Kid and Nomad stories but again just couldn't do it well there's no way there's no way they thought that the Corpo intro was appropriate to how you then spend the rest of the game well that makes me wonder because I mean it's pretty obvious that the Cyberpunk 2077 from that initial trailer is not this game um the original one the 2013 one like it's not it's not the same game I said earlier in the chat like tonally they're completely at odds that it's completely different kind of thing that they presented back then which granted was long before they started development on it so fair enough was it? did they let it? they only started development after Blood and Wine from what I know this reminds me of believe it or not this reminds me of this one so it's taken away back but before Borderlands became the Borderlands we all know that it was it wasn't originally it wasn't going to be anything like that you go and you look at the art and the design and the thoughts and stuff like I remember reading Game Informer articles about it it didn't turn out anything like originally how it was sort of thought out to be it just changed into a new thing during development it just became something else was it always funny? I don't think so no I don't think it was going to be like a comedy game at the beginning now this is me going off memory way way way way way back like high school for me and stuff like that but um was it always a looter shooter? sort of yeah I think it was always a looter shooter but in terms of its aesthetics and the focus on humor and things like that totally different I think it was going to be played totally straight it was going to be a lot more realistic graphics or the YZN guy anybody? James got him but um yeah it's just I do feel someone mentioned it that this game's development was confused I totally believe it if it took this long and this is what we got and everything's just like and this game is just like but worse I can believe it like you know they had to think are we going to have vehicles should I guess what I was what I think I was getting at when it comes to you know how long this game like how long ago it was announced is one of two things happened either they announced the game and didn't start working on it until like four years later which is a bizarre choice or they did and they restarted partway through I'm inclined to believe that the latter is the case um and that like it was in development and there were problems or the team got peeled away from it to work on the Witcher 3 and then after they finished with the Witcher 3 they started working on it and of course that leads to the problem of well there's a lot of pressure to get this out because people think we like we announced eight years ago people don't want to like people don't want to wait that long for a video game and it needs to come out when this game really needs another year of development it comes across this game that they spent two to maybe three years making just because everything that's a part of it is just sort of I heard Keanu Reeves changed a lot of things because he wasn't supposed to be as big a part of the plot in fact one of the original trailers you can hear that Johnny Silverhand only died the year before 2077 whereas of course in the game we got that's not even remotely true so when Keanu Reeves said yeah I'd love to be a part of this game make me a main character the writers were like shit we've got to remake the entire story did anybody else find apparently did anybody else find the fact that Keanu Reeves was in the game really jarring distracting because he's trying to read it's distracting because of Keanu Reeves games I don't know why we're stepping backwards and well I know why we're stepping backwards for cloud and marketing like but it's it's a step backwards in terms of immersion because we're going out of our way to render something that looks like someone in real life who is an actor whose job is playing people that aren't themselves yeah I find it very weird that we want like I mean again Koji Death Stranding it's like oh look at all these actors it's like I remember when like see like Nathan Drake is like a character who doesn't exist in the real world how is that not much better for immersing me in this in this story that these are people that aren't actors even if they're played by actors and the same goes for like all manner of different characters whereas like oh it's Norman Reedus and you could see it in the way that people talk about it's like oh it's Keanu Reeves people don't call him Johnny Silverhand it's Keanu Reeves yeah it's Keanu Reeves it's Keanu Reeves who looks like him sounds like it is him and he he talks like Keanu Reeves so it's like I thought he did a really good job he sounds like Keanu Reeves I think he's doing a better job than yeah I think he's better than John Wick oh it's so much better than John Wick man yeah it's better than John Wick John Wick he just goes yeah or he's in this game you know there's real intonation on that fuck yeah yeah John Wick so let me see what are those there's the gang system like there isn't one like they have like different gangs in sort of each area but it doesn't really mean anything because there's no reputation system like the amount of tiger claws I must have killed hundreds of them and it doesn't seem to make a difference like they should be they should be gunning for me they should be like sending hits it should make a difference to the way that you interact with certain characters but it just it doesn't matter there's no factions and no there are words you know what I mean one of the earlier fixes one of the earlier fixes has a lot of ties to the tiger claws oh yeah with Coco right with Coco right yeah yeah but because when I heard her saying that or I learned that I was like oh shit I've murdered like many many many tiger claws I guess she doesn't care alright well that's good in one of her gigs she does have you go out after like she does have you go after tiger claws who are like overreaching and stuff but I can be like walking down the street and just butchering every tiger claw I run across and she went about an eye I think I'm just excited to have combat well isn't it funny because like you compare it to like Red Dead Redemption 2 where like when a bounty is on you like people will start actively pursuing you you'll be out in the world and then bounty hunters will show up and try and kill you and it feels like the world is actually reacting to your presence whereas in cyberpunk it doesn't feel like that at least in terms of like when you're just out in the world exploring and thematically the games are supposed to be about you making an impact and being a big guy and making a difference and having people remember you and stuff but you're sort of like a ghost a lot of the times regardless of what you do yeah that's a huge huge thing that I actually think is what makes the game feel a little hollow for a lot of people because in most well in most of the huge western RPGs you do rise from the bottom to the top a great deal especially in Bethesda's games and fallout but in this game where it's literally themed on that the theme is immortality through heroism or legend and you can't do any of that at all you just you know you can't progress you can't interact with the factions and rise it tries to imply that you do as your street cred statistic goes up but yeah never realized in the game at all yeah my street credit level one and level 13 it's indistinguishable I can just buy some more things at shops I guess I'm going to say that I'm not going to get into that because it's a good implementation of that actually tying what people will sell you to your street cred is that's that's a decent start I'm fine with that it's just that that's the only thing they need to start and there needs to be more yeah you can't have these eyeballs until you're 15 level street cred you gotta go kill more tiger claws and I'll give you these robot eyes from the perspective I don't know who you are I'm not selling you an LMG yeah yeah it's it's like I'm not it's not miserable I'm not even saying that I'm not not enjoying it I'm just kind of going through it we could probably talk a bit about like what we like I suppose in case people feel like it's like wait why have you guys said it's middling and only criticized it because like I said it all everything from the stories to the aesthetic to the world building in terms of those you know cyberpunk aspects to the guns and the stealth and the hacking we didn't even get into the hacking stuff really but there's not really much to say I like how I will say this I like how you can so I have like abilities you can you can scan people and objects and things and learn about them and if you scan an enemy or like a player you can do little like ability you can do little effects to them based on what upgrades you have for your hacker implant thingy so like I have an ability my abilities are I could turn someone temporarily blind which is cool because then even if they're in combat I can blind them then get behind them and like take them out or I could like make them like a memory wipe where they'll leave combat like those are kind of cool um they should have more stuff like that I feel good perhaps because I'm playing a stealth hacker man character it gets it starts to trivialize the game late game but I've heard a lot of things start to trivialize the game late game so the point where you know short circuit you can upgrade that to the point where out of stealth or in stealth you'll just pop that on someone it'll go off instantly they'll die immediately and they'll die so fast that model doesn't even register to fall over so they just instead for a second speaking of that sort of thing I wish I had it on video but it happened once near the first like battle or whatever I had him once in the latest hour so two dudes and I hit a distraction on a machine and um both of them and this is this is when I'm already about two meters away from being able to choke one out the dude who's closest to it like personally inspects it the other guy like stands still for a little bit then shakes and shakes even more and I was just like okay I'm backing up don't know what's happening with that guy who and then he chills out he looks sort of moves towards it and I was like okay I'm still not trusting it so I activate something else that's like near that area to distract them again and I'm like this will nail it because he's already looking in that direction now you'll be distracted but um so as if his pathing and his vision are two separate systems which naturally that that's very possible but they conflict so his pathing was going to send him back my way at the same time that I hit the distraction and so his legs started like they turned and moved toward me but his body was still facing the distraction and so like I like was looking at a torso at the back of a torso like heading toward me with the legs forward no option to grab and I was like what the fuck's happening and then it's just like oh you've been inspired and I was like oh okay I know I've had issues with characters supposedly facing one direction but not really like the models just clearly not actually displaying what the the character in the data is doing and I have a lot of complaints with the takedown system in terms of its like when you're allowed to do it and when you're not allowed to do it like if you're behind someone but they're alerted to you you can't take them down even though you're kind of behind them if you I've jumped down behind people and before they like as my feet hit the ground and make the noise even though I'm staring at their back it won't let me take them down because I guess they're like alerted to me and so they spin around it's really kind of finicky it's definitely not a great system for the stealth and the takedowns it's kind of strange that they decided to have the decision for your takedown to be non-lethal or lethal after you've done the grab like I feel you could just I think that's exactly the same where you decide before you've even initiated a takedown you have the options for a lethal takedown or a non-lethal takedown you'll not come out or you'll use your blades or something on them I feel life is much easier if you just do it that way I'm not sure what you stand to gain by deciding after you've grabbed them grabbing people and dragging them away it feels clunky too it feels cumbersome and clunky it's not like other games where you get behind people games like Metal Gear Solid and Deus Ex where you get behind people and you knock them out and you take their body and you move them and drag them into a very cumbersome and clunky system I think by default as you kill or knock someone out you should retain possession of the body it's just because having to it's just it feels like it's unnecessary steps and it's just we just need to give people things to upgrade I guess three inputs to do what you can usually do in other games in one or other that's a good point is like you have to start the grab you have to choose lethal or non-lethal and then they fall to the ground then you loot them and then you pick up the body that's another thing when you pick someone up and go and hide them you don't I guess automatically loot them or anything so you just pick people up and fill up loot and stuff and just throw them away or you have to go and fiddle about with their body for a while to try and pick up all the stuff it's kind of one of the first things I got brought up and I meant to say it but I'll just say it now the CJ break it up like you know you go through one compound let's say as a general sense of a word and you just just tap in loot on basically everything when I went to the bartender in the sequence that followed it and I saw that you could sell him the guns I was like okay and I sold him like 25 guns thanks by the way it's like you can sell anything to anybody it looks like it's a compromise for the sake of convenience you can't even shop at the markets right despite that being those drop off points you can sell things to it it's like they didn't want to inconvenience the player and have you you know have to go to a specific kind of vendor to sell a specific kind of thing they'll buy your 12 pistols and your three ugly boots and your ugly pants and your ugly shirt it's convenient it's just weird yeah it's very strange at this point I sure as hell I'm not going to tell him to change it I'll take all the convenient things that I can at this point two things one hello tone how you doing hello hello you've had some fun with this game while we ask about your experiences I'm just popping a video on the background you guys welcome to check it out for yourselves you don't need it on mute really nice bullshit it's a pretty funny video yeah take a look who knows oh no oh no he's gone to heaven oh no oh no oh my god oh my goodness no we're going gold oh my goodness that's cyberpunk in a nutshell that's bullshit I think has probably got the lowest opinion out of all of us on this game he's not happy is that the PC version that's being shown I seriously doubt Das is playing on anything but PC it's pretty funny though I've never had anything that bad but yeah I mean we've been talking about all kinds of issues tone what's your blip for this game what do you think fuck well how long have you played it 40 hours I've been in 20 and I played 20 more oh wow I feel like it's not a terrible game but it's definitely not like Jesus' second coming as we all thought it might be it's like got a pretty good like style to it the aesthetics are really nice the city while it's like defunct and completely sterile and void of any actual like NPC physics or like intelligence which is makes the game feel like really like like almost child's play sometimes like the city itself is really nice and like the gunplay is like you compare it to like the outer world or like fallout the gunplay is better but like everything else surrounding the game is pretty much shit well we we have a lot of overlap here there's a lot of consistency with a lot of the stuff that people have been saying about this game yeah it's not like like on one hand like I look at this like entire situation as like as like a management issue but like the development too regardless of how much time they had on the game like they had like eight years right there's like no excuse for like some of the shit that's in this game so like you can blame the management like the publishers and like all shareholders and stuff like that yeah or whatever but you still have to blame the developers and especially the marketing team by the way the PR they like acted like nothing was wrong and then they know about blaming the developers because they would have unfucked the situation had the release dates not fucked them I mean maybe you'd have to give them a lot of time yeah a lot of time I'm not at the point I'm not going to be so charitable I don't know that's a that's an I don't know for me on that one fix the bugs fix the police system and people would be saying seven out of ten I think that there this is just the kind of game they're not prepared to make it's too it's too ambitious it's too big there's way too many false I would agree you're looking at like 12 months 18 months more development and then like that's just to get the systems in place that you promise people then you have to time in a way that's like functionally works on all systems so you look you're looking at like a long long time of development so yeah I get you dude like the developer is not their fault that they were you know basically forced to crunch time and they didn't have the time they needed but the same time they had a lot of time and what they did in that amount of time is not good enough I think that's management is like the main responsibility there if the people who are in charge of overseeing the games development I put that because I mean ultimately you know the developers are just following the lead of management the management is dicking around and wasting a well maybe not wasting time but just making ill advised decisions there's not a lot that the developers on the ground can do about that and apparently in the company there's been a lot of conflict in the last couple of weeks between the devs and the management like in getting into fights about how the reputation of the company has been tarnished which it has yeah absolutely I completely agree with you friendship by the way it's good to see you again dude but at the same time if I'm going to play devil's advocate like there's no excuse for the city to feel this pedestrian and the AI to be this bad when you have games like Grand Theft Auto 3 like ten years ago doing it way better and their development cycle was way was probably less than eight years so like there's no excuse but I get you yeah yeah no I well of course like the problems with the game itself like the fundamental core design problems that's development issue but like bugs and all that they had more time that's a completely different story it feels like there was a lot of juggling between well are we going to make this look all right or are we going to have it work we have to choose one and I guess they flipped the coin on all the things and so it just feels like a half and half game did you guys talk about like the pre-release like review controversies and like all the displacement with yeah that's a matter than we might do what uh what what let me tell you my brief story on that yeah let me tell you really briefly about that so I got a pc code on December 9th at 315 p.m. the game was set to go live at December 9th 4 p.m. my time so I got 45 review Cyberpunk 2077 by the way yeah and then to make it you gotta play it make a video publish it yeah so like I feel like there was two groups of people I was in the non-important people obviously people like IGN and everyone they probably got enough time to beat the game grants it probably not enough time because they probably rushed through the game which is why they didn't report on as many bugs and then performance issues but that's a whole different bag of worms or whatever but I got the game and I basically refused to review it until I was absolutely ready which is why my review came out like five days later so like this preferential treatment towards certain outlets and then hiding the fact that any like they didn't give anyone ps4 codes at all so like that in itself is like one of the biggest slaps in the face to the consumers of this industry like how could you possibly do that it's not even that they omitted it they blatantly it's not they forgot they blatantly omitted it for the sheer yeah just to get more sales which is that is so scumbaggy and then you turn around look at their twitter like the PR team and they're just like all lollygag everything's fun I can't wait to release this game this is going to be amazing it's so stressful but I can't wait and then like deep down like they knew they fucking knew and they did it anyway definitely they knew yeah absolutely they made the game they made the fucking thing they played the shit out of it as they were making it and putting it together they knew exactly what they would release as here's the here's the big question though you guys remember the Witcher 3 that game released pretty shitty too how long do you think like do you think they could turn around the cyberpunk 2077 like they did the Witcher 3 I think that they could make this game well yeah if they wanted to be on like console or like the playstation yeah I think that if they if they work very hard I just wonder what the cost uh uh uh you think you think for a second like oh yeah you know they could recover you're like oh man they got the game was pulled like that's how in pieces it is that's pretty intense one of our most anticipated games of recent time was pulled from playstation 4 unprecedented it's crazy can you imagine if like red dead redemption 2 got pulled from the playstation store a week after it came out it's like unfathomable and this is like equivalent yeah it's like is CDPR in the same bucket as Evie Stoff and Yee at this point like Anthem and Fallout 76 is this real I feel like Fallout 76 didn't get taken down well yeah I know but like the whole controversy of the game being well they haven't doxed their customers yet so yeah I guess we'll see um I think that if they work very hard time into it this game can eventually become good yeah I think definitely on that 100% but I do not think this game will ever be great I agree I don't think they can recover their reputation to where it was before that's impossible they can't recover any of their reputation without like going ham and fixing the hello of this game I mean hello games managed to repair their reputation but it took a lot of work and a lot of time well I think I think CDPR can but it's going to take a lot maybe I don't know if it will yeah because the reputation before this was like spotless on a lot of people's eyes that's not something you can get back to if you fall down from it you can get back up to good really good but you can't get back to good hello games was a small developer they'd made good games people knew of them and this specific game was really hyped and then it was a disappointment but then they clawed it back and that makes the company look good whereas here it's a god tier developer did a lot of really really bad things that make it clear that they weren't the god tier developer you thought they were so it's like oh yeah they're not going to get back on the pedestal they were at definitely here for it yeah Naughty Dog CD project red Naughty Dog yeah not yet it's not the time for the last one it's on my counter right now I haven't yet to play it please god no one mentioned it was the end of that list going to be frictional right oh yeah yeah we have frictional amnesia after genuinely sad that we look back and that's what happened to three beloved developers like damn this is why I tell people don't pre-order games you're a little tiny fucking trousers that you get in the game it's not gonna don't do it don't pre-order games make them earn your money every company can make a dud and I've been vindicated time and time again I feel like cyberpunk though has a lot of good things going for it and like maybe it's not going to be the game we all expected but I feel like it can be a good game like have you guys talked about like the deep rooted flaws with the game like at the same time of like what it does well well let's go for what are we I was gonna say like whatever you want to bring up we might have covered it I feel like choice is a big thing in that game that really got misunderstood like does it than anyone else like feel like okay I'm coming like I bought the art the world of cyberpunk book I don't know if you guys saw it was like a hard like a big old is a really cool book right and it said like a lot of stuff about the lore and like it told you a lot about like the gangs and the most underlying thing they talked about in that book was the fact that like everyone in the city was really like under this impression that you can like you should be a cyberpunk like you could go out and like you can make body modifications and you could do whatever the fuck you want make choices join gangs and stuff like that so like that entire aspect of like not being able to customize your your the actually the way you look outside of your arms like maybe take off an arm and put on like an implant or something like that we're moving eyeball like go wild you can't even you can't even change your hairstyle we're gonna tattoo the game setting is time of like absurd degrees of expression for every person complete control over everything you want to change is just like sweet yeah and like it gets tied into yeah like it gets tied into like the lifestyle choices to those don't really mean shit conversations don't you can't really save any I don't want to you know I want to talk spoilers but like the choices you make in terms of like the main characters and like where the story's going it doesn't matter what you do so like that's a huge issue too yeah I so I'm only 13 hours into it right now and I feel like I'm on rails I know in a lot of I know in some aspects I'm not but I feel like I am because a lot of the stuff I do doesn't feel impactful choice wise which is weird because they they that's one of the touted features immersive storytelling it's immersive but it's mostly just because of its presentation and it's got an interesting world and the aesthetics really solid and interesting but a lot of the immersion aspects of it are just like surface level like the players doing the work in terms of getting immersed like you imagine what's in this world not your show and what's in this world and you're like whoa that's amazing that this is there rather than well imagine the possibilities yeah you touch upon all the aspects of you know the robots and the cyborgs and the corporations and all the everything from the ripper docs to the gangs to the fixers and how it all works together and you're like yeah this seems like a world I totally buy into this world I absolutely believe it and like the area like the area the pacifica area I don't know if you've gotten to it yet rags but it's like this it's like the it's like the beggar town basically on the coast it was basically like a hotel destination for tourists but then the bombing happened and then the whole area went to shit there was supposed to be like roaming and join just like that one single example is gone that whole area is like there's nothing in that whole area it's short now there's just roaming groups of three people that you could murder the area was really hyped up is like this place is so bad that the police don't come here exactly yeah and then they'll spawn behind you if you should that's probably the dumbest thing in the whole game you shoot someone and instantly they teleport behind you even if there's no witnesses stop right there pacifica and then they don't chase you really yeah turn the corner and they forget you just jog away journey got away well I guess I'll go back home but what they're trying to tell like underneath everything is really compelling though like they've got some really cool ideas and like the story itself super fun super cool they had the power to make something here definitely and it probably will be something by the time they're done with updates because it's especially which is the which is the biggest slap in the face to people because you're gonna refund the game yeah or whatever and like I hate that this is just another notch in the in the belt of just we're moving more and more towards games release unfinished that's just how they release like no I don't want that to be done just like I don't know I think people have become way too tolerant of like day one patches and like oh it's in a big RPG so it's gonna have bugs in and now they'll fix it later I think we really need to get back to the stage of you release a game it should at least fucking work this could be a turning point you know because they've lost what a billion quid and obviously fallout 76 destroyed their rap too this might be the lesson that the industry learns they're losing billions wasn't that supposed to happen with battlefront 2 we said that with the anthem and everything too yeah and battlefront 2 with microtransactions but that's not stopped them yeah I heard that battlefront 2 had a crap ton of work done to it oh sorry I don't mean like battlefront 2 itself I think was improved dramatically but the overall like people like this is it finally sent because you know they started to do like hey this game has no microtransactions okay that's why you should buy it everyone's like oh we've seen a change it's like I mean they're still everywhere like for a lot of things I think what that game was was the lion is drawn here at how far you can push it yeah and I think that that's held true but microtransactions and maybe this will be the case for this like you can't release a game like this like it's not acceptable I think battlefront 2 pretty much sealed it in the industry that if you're going to be in this sphere of gaming microtransactions have to be like strictly aesthetic or just time saves and that's where they have to stay versus power versus power yeah which is what Valhalla did and bbsoft games do that they do a pretty good job like you can buy it in cosmetics yeah someone told me the hairstyle change stuff used to be a free dlc for witcher 2 and 3 so imagine barbershop barbershop stuff will be free dlc because we love you so much here I have a free thing of cyberpunk 2077 as well yeah it's weird that something it's one of those things where you're just like why is this in the game you had in the last game you would change your hairstyle in the last games so like how come you can't do it it doesn't seem like it would be difficult this is especially weird in a game where everyone's hair is usually like really different crazy yeah thinking spiky or swayy in purple and green pretty strange it's just a world where everyone is exactly what they want to look like it's just a really bizarre thing to not include in the game on release yeah you can't get a tattoo, you can't get a robot arm in the cyberpunk game you can't change your hairstyle it's like a like I guess I'm I guess I hope I made the right choice 20 hours ago do you guys ever have that glitch where you look in the mirror and your hair is disappeared and your dick's out yeah well my tits not my tits oh well on that note I have to ask did you guys pick penis one or penis two penis two the big uncircumcised one whichever one that is yeah exactly yeah I didn't realize my canon is that I was circumcised but through the use of cyberpunk technology I was re-circumcised I was re-sized I was uncircumcised and so that's my canon for my character I'm slowly but surely returning to monkey even though I have robot eyes one of the funniest cultures though is if you choose to have a large penis sometimes it will actually glitch through your trousers that happens in real life I did not see that that's just life man that's life with a big penis I wouldn't know that's alright if you could do if you could do you don't know the struggle the small penis option is bigger than most people's real penises I wouldn't be saying that from experience but it's really un-immersive cause I've seen a lot of life really lacks immersion when you have the small penis has anyone bought a hooker yet? did anybody else accidentally pick the male hooker? in that scene I got it right they give you the picture with the two names but then they take the pictures away from the names and ask you which one you want by name I hope you remembered I missed that I guess I was in the Midwest I had sex with Judy I didn't see the hooker I haven't had sex with Judy yet but that's what I'm working towards I'm a female fuck off never mind I can't convince her to see the light if this game had customization you'd be able to for this mission I want to be a woman did anybody else sleep with the lady from Militech I really wanted to on accident on accident she called me up last time I replied I wanted to see more of your tattoos go to this motel shut up the motel bondage gear with black tape on our nipples and then we do it you guys have that to look forward to if you play your cards can I say something about Meredith and a couple of the other characters in this game why didn't she get more screen time some of these characters get no screen time they do one story beat and then they move on and you never see them again Regina Jones though she just never fucks off constantly calling I'm not a fan of throwaway characters it just feels wasted I don't mind them when they're used effectively but for the most part people I've met in oh alright he was about to spoil or something yeah I guess I'm glad I don't have to go bowling with anybody Niko they call me on their cell phone you know just going back to mechanics I guess there's a sequence where you have to go down there's like a whole room you can clear stealth or not and then the next room you'll kind of you can knock out and then there's two cameras and there's a whole bunch of shit going on like a level below you and I was curious like so what is this game how does this game deal with I'll shoot one of them and just run all the way back to really far into the map and I guess I shouldn't be so invested in the idea of like we evolve to a point with that someone can do something with that in the game because they all had vision on me they're like oh my god later and I just like I ran off few rooms back and just stood still and you only took a few seconds and I was just like okay they lost you resetting aggro yeah it's just I guess a little bit disappointing that they wouldn't be more to it as well as like you know that you have the what is it called like reset optics or whatever you can just I found that it was really easy going and I was on hard mode right so I was like reset optics trivialized yeah it makes a lot of these sequences like I can make so many mistakes and I just don't really care that much like you know I wanted to play through stealth wise but if ever I lost my stealth for whatever reason I wasn't really worried I was just like well I guess I'll just kill everyone yeah I think if I play through the game a second time which I probably won't do but if I do it'll just be a straight up just fucking combat character like just fucking stealth yeah I'm just going to I'm just going to give myself the cold-blooded regen shit and then that'll be done with that tree and then I'll just put everything else into other things and say fuck it yeah I feel like if you get quick hack double jump in the slow slow time ability you just do John Wick it's because the AI is so kind of dumb in this game like what you were saying Mahler like you could take advantage of a lot of the aggro stuff and resetting the areas I feel like going John Wick is just so much more fun and they do the whole when you you shoot at enemies but they don't really behave like they're being shot and their life is in danger they'll still stand in the middle of the street and not hit you at a distance they'll still just like remain out in the open did you guys watch go ahead I was just going to say when I was shooting them with a I had a pistol machine gun and shotgun with my three like just cycling weapons unloaded the entire like a rifle into a person essentially point blank and they didn't even notice like the blood was splattering but they were just carrying on with life the shotgun I shot them and they flung across like and landed on the room sweet cool the gun has actually has impact they got back up and I was like I have already reloaded shot them again it did nothing I was like oh and it's like the shotgun has a chance of knocking them over I guess at least that was my experience with it it either makes them flinch or it just flat out ragdolls them which means they're dead essentially but yeah I won't fault the shotguns for being they've been very potent for me they're really good the power weapons are really nice yeah the power weapons do feel powerful they do did you guys experiment with like the ricochet and the smart weapons I didn't really get too much of that not yet I don't feel any because that was supposed to be a big feature I don't feel any good with anything because the guns that I pick up from the thugs that I kill are just like great so I don't feel a need to try new tactics or things I know that if I ever get into a fight I can just hit them with this baton and they'll die or I'll shoot them with these guns that I found along the way and it's all good I just remember like watching early trailers and like they were walking on walls with the mantis blades doing all this crazy shit there was like smart tech weapons going around corners like where is the gate where is that game ricochet just sounds like I'd use it once and be like that's kind of nifty and then I'd go back to just shooting everyone in the face I just go back to I like standing up all the different weapon types feel really half baked in the integration like it feels like it's just there to tell you what kind of weapon you're firing in case you don't want to be firing weird electric bolts just shooting them with whatever gun you have works perfectly fine all the time so you never feel any need to oh well what mod am I going to use am I going to check my strategy am I going to do this or plan ahead that's fine just run and shoot them in the face it's all good they'll stand still for you did you guys find the lack of like an actual cover system bothersome like the ability to like no like an escape from Tarkov you can like um you can like reach over obstacles or around corners with your gun to get like shots down like a hallway which is really cool like I thought that stuff would be in the game too I mean I just found it an option to like lean out of cover yeah the leans well you can lean out of cover but lean cover is like really nebulously defined they could have easily just given you a lean button all I've never noticed they could have given you a lean button or they could have like made sticky cover like Deus Ex Human Revolution but instead they've got this weird middle ground again where yeah there's a cover system I guess and you can lean I guess we're not going to really clearly define I haven't had an issue with it but then again I play a lot of Battlefield 1 and it uses that system so maybe I'm just used to it so relatively intuitive to me but yeah I'm getting along fine with it it just feels like a strange way to do things I think if your game isn't built around the idea of sticky cover like if you're not a Gears of War or something like that sticky cover feels extremely out of place and is just worse to have than not in which case I feel like just a general lean button would be yeah you just have like a soft like a soft you could just have like a soft sticky cover system where you can have like more control and like you could put your gun around corners and above obstacles like if you're behind a table you could like literally move your you could just reach over the table and start like shooting which in turn would like the ricochet mechanic would come into play then you could like ricochet shit off of like pillars to hit people to the right or to the left like I don't know like I just think about the combat system and they could have done more and like what they promised there's some missing features for sure I think it's like 5 out of 10 for 2020 it's totally serviceable it works fine I have no complaints with it but I have nothing to really praise about it either it's perfectly serviceable for 2020 I guess the only thing I was gonna I was gonna well I was gonna talk about the melee I don't know about anybody else but I found that melee combat is very it's really weird and janky but it's also very overpowered it's very effective I've put no skills at all into melee stuff but I know that I could just go up and punch a dude twice in the face and he's just done I could shoot him 20 times with a gun or I could punch him yeah the it's incredibly effective simultaneously I feel like it's too easy but also that my bullets aren't really bullets they're paintballs I mean these are very kind of yeah they are until you get okay well because it's difficult to kind of track that sort of thing because they're like leveled so sometimes you'll fight enemies and they just drop instantly and sometimes you gotta put maybe 5 or 6 headshots into them with your assault rifle and it's like the game knows what my numbers are I feel like you should just have all the enemies be slightly challenging based on what my numbers are but yeah it's something I kind of take issue with in the game broadly I don't know if we need like number based level up system in the game we don't overall especially when it creates really odd things like I am not high enough level to equip this tank top which starts to get kind of annoying in the fashion game oh yeah your character always looks ugly and your tank top more protection than this body armor you picked up it's the most unthinkable thing as well because there is an armor slot where things like ballistic jackets and that go you have an arm like it's the outer wear place you put things like bulletproof vests and stuff there but other stuff factors into your armor too for some reason like if we really needed armor system why couldn't it just be down to that slot they need to have a light and heavy or maybe a medium armor and each tier and that could work into the upgrades you have where yeah heavy armor it will protect you but you're slower you can't jump as high you can't run as fast none of that's in the game if you are buck-ass naked or if you're running around with helmets or if you are in heavy vests same thing no difference because it's the only stat your armor has is armor and ugliness relating to the bullet sponginess or whatever it's not consistent across the board because obviously I'm fighting different enemies and stuff but part of the awkwardness of it is I'll have my rifle and I'll be like if I essentially blind fire crosshair it'll be fine and then I wonder to myself like how am I losing no health while doing this and it's just like because the enemies often don't shoot and miss almost deliberately or they just sort of go like hey stop I'm gonna get ya all with the same voice by the way which is so funny and I'm just like man I'm lucky I'm not getting shot at right now I guess then I need to reload and just repeat I do find myself losing HP and like cover based I'm definitely shot at I'm saying this shouldn't happen at all but it happens every once in a while and I find it really odd oh I only died a bullshit I died because oh you just walked into the zone of high level people who instantly kill you or that thing next to you oh actually that's a barrel that's been activated but it's like a cyberpunk barrel something like something that would explode oh it exploded yeah now you know those things explode and kill you I'm not a fan of this might just be I need to play the game more and I'll be cool with it but I wasn't a fan of the fucking magical hacking setting you on fire shit I don't know that's annoying as shit but you have to get a perk that disables the enemies the ability to do that to you because it's annoying as shit I've also found it really weird how they can hack you from different rooms or through walls but you can't do the same to them or is that because they're doing it through the cameras and only an idiot they're probably doing it through cameras or something usually I think that is how the game would like to play well so that was going to be my follow up question about this oh wait what is this I just posted something I don't know if you could show it or whatever but it's the funniest thing ever regarding the AI yeah I've seen this oh yes man this subreddit is amazing what's the funniest thing I've ever seen what's the sentiment like in this subreddit is it absolute hate there's a lot of people gunking on the game anarchy some very good memes well it's on my mind because I don't want to forget we briefly talked about combat for a while so how combat mixes with stealth mechanics in this game are really shit one of the great things about games that are especially built around stealth or have a lot of stealth options in mind games like Deus Ex games like Splinter Cell and whatnot is that you can effectively if you play right kill every single person with like a headshot and the skill isn't in the shooting of the people it's in the positioning and the awareness of where enemies are and moving around tactically and that's that takes the place of the exciting gunfire that it's its own skill but in this game especially when suppressors will reduce your damage on the gun like 30% or something crazy I've never used all of my stealth is just takedowns from behind it's never shooting people stealthily what at a time when they're isolated are not looking at each other like like there's like in Splinter Cell you have your basic enemies and it's the amount of them they're positioning and if they're interspersed with armored enemies that will change the difficulty in how you behave as well as the layout of the rooms and the play areas that you have and this game doesn't seem like even though it has a clear stealth option present stealth slash combat mixed together really really poorly and it just wasn't designed for it I just really I just really don't care and what's the point of trying to use these combat stealth options when everyone just dies so quickly anyway like I don't feel like stealth is giving me anything it does late game it does yeah because oh no I've been spotted well that's fine I guess I'll just massacre them now like again I don't even think even if you couldn't massacre them you just run back and then if any company when you deactivate their optics and then just reset the room I think it's more along the lines of what players fantasy you know what I mean like people fantasize about being sneaky ninjas and the game does give you the option to sneak around and kill people you don't have to it's not necessary you can kill everyone easily but the game gives you a little hacking mechanic that makes it easier so if players want to engage in that system then I feel like that's the extent of it like I recently played chaos theory rags completely the sophistication in the stealth system regarding the positioning and the tools you have it's so much more eloquent but like here about like conviction and blacklist those are excellent stealth games and they're really snappy but they're not like complicated they just have really good mechanics and in terms of how stealth works and how enemies are spread around the integration is much more sophisticated for sure because that's what the game is here I feel like if it's the fantasy you want to live out if this is the cyberpunk you want to make if you want to be a ninja here's a couple options they're not that complicated they're not that complex they don't really weave into like what Mueller was saying they don't really weave into the other applications of the combat like you know gunplay or whatever because you'll just trigger everyone right so it's like it's there for players who want it it's not fleshed out and that's kind of what I was talking about earlier where they could have done much more I need the ninja because there's no blade stealth takedowns it's only fists which is insane for a melee character I hated that by the way only one animation he's like you either choke them and they pass out or you just break their neck and that's it there's no deus ex sword through the face or cyberpunk like you jack into their brain and fry it or you stab them seriously dude nothing it's just like your neck and they fall down and you're like okay I feel like a lot of these enemies are broken neck wouldn't actually kill them in this universe but alright stream gangas like do you even break that next do they have necks can we be sure it's just a really dis if you play this as a stealth game it will be very disappointing it's a watered down version of way better games but it's not bad it's not bad it's just not like phenomenal it's not the game that it had been hyped up to be or that we were promised yeah and I think a lot of people do in the whole it was never going to be able to live up to that and like okay let's chill like it's not excuse okay but I'm not even talking about what people hyped it up to be I'm talking about what the project said they were going to deliver it didn't live up to that I agree with that when I'm wishing that this game was more concrete like you need to step it up I have more of a problem when I was working through the game I don't know if you guys feel the same way as I do but I just didn't feel like the variety and the amount of combat scenarios scaled well with how much storytelling there was there's a lot of like listening to people putting your ass down on the couch following people around I didn't feel like there was a lot of organic events there wasn't a lot of variety in the missions you just kind of kill people, follow, sneak around I just didn't think the brevity was there either because the game is quite short so this is a list of what was gathered from the gameplay reveal demo in 2018 compared to what we got is it I'll get a magnifying glass I must be clear though with the mantis blades and the wall running they did actually say after the 2018 demo that they just couldn't do it because it broke the level design so we did know that they were going to take that out hmm I'm sorry we're a final game you can't let Jack say no third person cut scenes in the game yeah that would have been cool especially if you could customize your character with a lot of enhancements and upgrades and cybernetic stuff to more regularly see your character as part of the world maybe that's why they didn't do that because they couldn't they just needed a whole other year recoil spread and range are gone from stats are hidden attachments still have a mysterious range stat if someone knows what .24 range translates in oh yeah so this game let me actually show you something that I found in the game this game has one of my big pet peeves which is that like the tooltips and the info they give you for stuff is practically worthless and you have no idea what it is some of it for sure yeah like what is plus point what is plus 0.24 range mean like I have no idea what that means other than I guess it's more range from user oh here we go yeah let me this is cyberpunk everybody and it's very useful information that it gives to the player so it's worth 10 quid though yeah there we go 10 eddies for muzzle zero times that's probably my favorite tooltip that's penis 3 or was that what when I showed you Mahler the I.M. plant and its little tooltip was like enhances vision that's what it said thanks that's helpful this one so this is I guess a spoiler clip so if anybody is still not look away everyone but this is something DAS just sent me and don't look away if you want to see something funny and don't care about spoilers something like this happened to me and it ruined my time I've seen this before where like weapons and items get stuck to people's hands this doesn't even surprise me this should happen all the time all the time yeah it does no lip-syncing, heads disappearing T-posing in the middle of a cutscene yep people sorry that the mouths often glitch out during these in-car cutscenes where the lips won't move that happens to me all the time where they stop moving I don't think anyone who's played this game didn't have graphical issues to the degree, some more than others obviously but I don't think anyone's had a clean experience with this game unfortunate yeah the bugs they've ruined immersion for me, well in some cases they've ruined immersion when you're talking to somebody in a diner you can see the diner happening behind you as you talk and sit in it and I've had characters just appear from nowhere just appear in the world in the middle of the diner and just start walking around normally a character will slide a little bit before their walking animation can catch up and that's the thing is it's not like a game that's so broken that we're all laughing at it constantly or anything I'll finish it and I'll probably enjoy my time with it mostly but it's more like a yeah I guess I'll play Cyberpunk for a while I'll play it for a bit and then I'll go do something else after that which is weird because I was touting this I was like dude this is going to be the fucking game this is the goat and then when I finished I was like okay alright I wonder what the table kind of fun did you guys ever get the bug where you'd walk in where you'd get into a car but the car hadn't loaded yet it was still about like two polygons so it was just this massive mess of unloaded polygons and you couldn't even see normally I get the problem where I haven't loaded yet I really like when my car just a car spawns into my car and then they start like you know like fluffing around and crashing yeah I've summoned my entire garage into the same place at once somehow a persistent issue I've been having with vehicles is anytime I leave a car this happens a solid like 70% of the time textures on my character's output will just go ballistic and they'll start like flying everywhere all in front of my camera so I can't see shit and I don't know what's causing that and I have to just unequip everything I'm wearing and re-equip it in order to fix it I have a couple of times like reloaded like a quick save or an auto save and for some reason when I load in my gun will be firing and then I'll fire into a crowd which will of course trigger the police so then I'll have to reload I actually got stuck on that loop three times before it finally loaded in and I wasn't firing my gun I have no idea why I'm uh I guess this is an Act 1 spoiler if you guys don't mind but um I was I really do not like that T-bug died I really liked her about her voice lines and her character was really interesting and I was really hoping to get more of her as time progressed she was wasted yeah well you feel that way about Jackie too I do although his depth was was kind of a motivational thing you at least got closure with Jackie though whereas you never find out what happens to T-bug I don't think oh she died that's it you don't even know it just happens over the radio what killed her I have no idea what she got made she got flung by the connection they just get cried you got Ghost in the Shell I guess but you don't know that she died when she died it's like a scream of pain and then she screams and then that's it oh she's dead forever makes me wonder how these decisions were made and whether or not it was like never that important originally and then she got padded out because of different tutorial things getting made different opening stories getting made that's how I feel about Johnny like how much was he in the game before they like you know what I mean like was Keanu Johnny at the beginning or did he come in and they were like holy shit we got Keanu let's make the whole game about him apparently that kind of was what happened yeah I don't really feel interested in him at all maybe he gets better or it's just like I had a bit of that I think you can have some really good back and forths with him well funnily enough I had some weird ludo narrative dissonance because I finished Act 1 and I immediately started doing side missions and Johnny would just pop up and we'd have casual banter and then well I do like that but what I'm saying is I then do the story mission right after the like the first story mission in Act 2 and Johnny pops up and they're talking like they've never met before and they hate each other yeah that is a bit weird it's surprising how much of that is in this game they don't account for the different pathways you can take very well at all the game you expect you're gonna go straight to Takimoto after you leave but I didn't that was bizarre expectation well after 2 hours that was like 2 hour mission I want to explore the world after like 2 hours of Arasaka shit this is the moment you get set loose right this is the moment you get set loose into the world and then they seem to be banking on you immediately going to the story thing why would you ever expect that yeah I don't know so for me it was their relationship that screwed up because I did talk to Takamura and it was clear that V and Johnny's relationship was not good they didn't like each other so I just went 5 meters and found a guy playing a guitar and all of a sudden they're best shums talking about how finger technique and finger style like what the fuck just happened yeah one of the things early on with me and Johnny that made it hard for me to connect with them or be interested in them is that V says nothing that I would say like V is always I'm interested in learning about this Johnny guy and what he's gonna do and what he thinks and are we gonna work together and stuff like that and every time V would say something it would just be nothing at all like what I would say and so it got really hard for me to connect with this relationship they're trying to build well it also kind of splits the game in two I mean for the first I don't know how many hours it's basically a story of V and Jackie right and like what they want for their lives and then Takamura comes in Johnny comes in and then it's the end of the game it's some consistency I think is missing I feel like the Jackie you know that though they should have kept him around for way longer it felt like it went from mafia to a completely different story because I don't have any anchor and maybe that's sort of the point but the gameplay suffers for it and the story does like if I if the one constant I had from beginning to the end was Jackie and then he was what was in jeopardy that I was going to care about and maybe I had to decide between him or whatever gameplay things might happen that would be effective but if everyone's just like dying and I don't have anything to have and keep in terms of characters and relationships it's just like they dump that off in favor of like the actual narrative versus the character I felt that way anyway it's like I really like Jackie for the six hours or whatever and I was really curious what was going to happen and then Johnny comes in I think his performance was really good like he's an asshole but you kind of like him so I feel like that's a win but after like Johnny comes in it's more like goals versus like things inside the world that change and then the ending happens and it's like huh it does something that bugs the hell out of me in these open world games and it's kind of petty but it really annoys me in the boys in these open world games where you're encouraged to like go around and explore and piss around do whatever you want they make the main story something where time is very pressing of the essence which makes me really feel weird anytime I'm not doing something that's directly tied to the main story we have to go through such oh this person's over here we gotta get there quick quick quick which is three for example like Siri is being hunted down by the wild as we speak but also let me go and help this lady find a pan and then in cyber just a few more rounds of Gwen I'm literally dying by the second but I'm gonna go and just do some biz to get money I guess let me buy a new car hold on it's gonna be the best street brother in Night City it's really annoying to me but it's I don't think any open world can ever get away from that besides cutting me on a content you can interact with I think you just don't have a ticking time bomb as your main quest the main quest is just this not in the games that do have those you can't expect people not to notice unless you just remove everything away from them so they can focus on that stuff yeah if it's Fallout I mean Fallout New Vegas there was just this overarching the main story for the most part was these factions and they don't like each other and something might go down but it's not like a huge deal if it's not super fast you have Fallout 4 which is your son has been kidnapped and stolen from you you have to go find him also there could be duck tape in that outhouse go and check Cyberpunk I do want to give a bit of credit to because it almost feels like it's somewhat aware of that issue and tries to solve it but doesn't try nearly hard enough which makes it harder to give us the credit in that a lot of main story things after you get done with a particular quest or quest chain the person will then go to you okay I need to do some stuff call some people find some stuff do some digging whatever I'll call you I love that actually yes good so you're enabling me to go and do side things without feeling like hold on I have very pressing main story consensus to worry about the trouble becomes there's three main story things for the most of the main story so and there's no way you can get them all done quick enough that you then still have time to do things before the next one is like back to being ready to proceed with so yeah but at least you're aware yeah of the issue trying something there's like you needed to go a bit further more time I think between main story emissions perhaps yeah but then you could like fast forward time which by the way is hilarious because the cars don't move like you can fast forward 24 hours in advance and the same car will be parked right next to you at least change the position this time at least it's quick because you could just fast forward three days or whatever cuz talking more is like oh hold on I gotta find out some more shit give me a couple days you fast forward 72 hours or whatever he calls you right back so like yeah they try but at the same time you can circumvent at the same time what did you guys think about the montage with Jackie that they just people felt that they skipped over what should have been in the game it was cut content let's feel that way it feels like it would have been good that part of the game it feels like that part the game would have been where you really figure out what you're gonna be doing like who you are especially because in the during act one in particular if you do the story missions you don't feel like you get to do a lot of stuff like there's a lot of talking and I'm not generally the one to complain about this but there's a lot of sitting and listening and talking and so I'm just like man all that action that you blew by in that montage that looked awfully fun it was looking really fun all those stuff they were doing I just think it would have been better for your investment in Jackie too like this is a guy who's essentially taking you in looking after you and then you work with him until you're able to take care of yourself fully like that sounds like something that if you went through it would be really good for well the first act yeah you live in his house for a while until you get your own place so you should know his family how things that nature I feel like a lot of people clearly displays the issue with the multiple life parts because you see your corpo character and then the montage is the same every time it's like that's the shit you end up going and doing you're very clearly being funneled into this one particular type of character who has this particular occupation being a merc it's almost like have your lifestyle be like your character class in a way like it should be big and important and impactful you gotta tie in the narrative to the mechanics I have no idea how feasible it could have been but it almost feels like it should have been like three completely separate stories almost have the ability to have it to where your lifestyle choice will determine what your attributes are you know if you're a street guy then you'll have these stats and you'll know about these things more than these things if you're corpo then you'll know about these things more than these things or in addition to things you know about the street kid gets more cool and they get more reflexes here's your pool of stuff but because of your lifestyle you can distribute it between all of these you can't do over there because you have no idea what those are because you're corpo you don't know anything about the CD underbelly of the city really maybe you could have it where if you pick a corpo specifically you are better at talking you're better at getting information through communicating with people we're talking about really you should be shit with street smarts but you should be on top of operations I guess that's what I'm saying is like maybe just because I kind of feel like I sometimes think it's better to just do the thing that Rakes just said where it's like these are your classes you are this at least you feel like you made a choice that's important because choosing what class you are that is a very impactful and constant thing that it creates constraints and challenges for you to work within that you're always aware of and you're like yeah that was a choice I made and it makes sense narratively too I am a corpo I need to use my technological skill and my speech craft and my handgun skill because you carry like a concealed sidearm with you and so you're really good at pistols but you don't really use rifles and snipe rifles ever so you don't really have much knowledge about those things like that the game belabers the point is to the corpo types are not well liked on the streets which makes it a wonder how your character with your background gets anything done considering all of your interactions because the game wasn't built with corpo because it doesn't make a difference anyway the game was built with corpo having its own thing it feels like and then they had to staple it onto this despite the fact that everyone would probably tell you to fuck off the moment you started trying to talk to them which honestly would be kinda cool a part of your handicap is that most people on the street hate you they just don't like you already so you have to work a little harder in that respect they already did that with Mankind Divided because you might need to for being an old yeah unless you do business with someone in particular they just don't let you into the afterlife things like that yeah in some missions yeah have that be a whole mission where it's like I need to get into the afterlife and then you have to sneak in in the same way in human revolution well it's basically the same as in human revolution where you go to the police station if you screw up the conversation with the cop at the front you have to sneak your way in same as in The Hive that was a real sequence it's almost like Deus Ex is better but hey look yeah y'all need to play Deus Ex I've played Human Revolution was the one I played I still need to play Mankind Divided but I really liked it it was a fun game to play I played a non-lethal stealth game and it was so fun it was great so good Mankind Divided is basically just human revolution but with improvements to the gameplay mechanics yeah but the story though the story is not as good the music is not as good and it's not by the grandeur and uh I hope we get a sequel please just Avengers fail all right just bury it and give me a better game I actually tried to write the third game once unironically I tried to write fan right that's cool but yeah I was gonna say we're gonna this is probably a good interval to be like hey if you want if you want to jump out now um that that's that's a okay and uh I guess if before you go tone if you want to talk about what you do on your channel before you before you go so people can find you wherever you may be whatever you're up to I'm gonna review of uh Cyberpunk right yeah um I just talk about games you guys can find me at Slashdown with Rust I appreciate you guys having me on it it was really fun thanks for the chit chat yeah I was good to get you ready for it and I hope you all are well for Christmas yeah that's right it is almost upon us thanks for joining us dude hope you guys have a fantastic Christmas nice to meet you okay guys see you later bye I think I'm gonna I'm gonna take this opportunity to head off as well got some family stuff to do um family I know right who has one of those not Spider-Man um not Corphos uh yeah but uh thanks for having me on guys um I like I said I think it's gonna be like a I think it's 5 out of 10 is a fair rating for this game at the moment 6 if you fix all the bugs and I'm hoping they do do like a No Man's Sky thing where they you know add in all the features they promised to make it good uh there's a lot of potential here but it's just not here at the moment so yeah I do think it's got potential but Yig they're gonna have to work for it do you want to let people know what you're up to on your channel links are in description and chat for both so yeah I make videos mostly on like movies and TV shows uh that's like funny reviews and stuff so you guys might be interested in that uh do feel free to swing by yes very much so what was the last one you did was the uh Lovecraft movies yeah yeah yeah the Howard Lovecraft movies they're like at poorly poorly made animated movies about Lovecraft like Cthulhu but for children so it's very it's very weird to say the least Lovecraft you guys should check out the trailer for the trailers for these movies at least because you'll just be like what the fuck is this I think I did at one point and that's why I found when you were covering it I was like oh no way what a coincidence I'm almost certain saw one once they're like I don't know why anyone made them it's a it's an enigma funny though oh yeah and for that for that person asking in chat when's we long uh January there you go January very very good movie yeah great you love it alright catch you later guys bye bye bye so yeah what else do you in relation to cyberpug is there anything anyone wants to cover a bit more or I think the music's okay there are a couple good combat tracks in there and I think the the one where the ending one which I won't spoil is also quite excellent yeah I like that do do do do do do do do like the one that plays when you Johnny Silverhand flash track the first one easily the best track in the game that's the rebel part it's called if you want to search it yeah oh okay good a lot of time goes on and there's a really good version with an electric cello at the start that isn't official on the soundtrack and it makes me yeah it's I hate it when people do that when they have there's clearly stuff in the material and it's not on the OST or the soundtrack yeah that's every game literally every game it's so like no cello that's going watching sabato get murdered it's like that was really good but no it's not on the sound like oh what's that you want that menu music from remnant be from ashes well you guess what asshole it's different it's a we got a different version on our OST so if you want that other one you got to like rip it from the game or something or record your screen no why I got you cheap for that yeah yeah they usually try and save you on that with different people who also looking for those tracks yeah and I was going to say I'll probably finish the game I might give it a second play through if if I feel like it'll be worth exploring more and we will keep an eye on it the podcast goes on and keep updates here and there but yeah like it's not great as a starting point for CD probably right I guess in general if the if you strip away all the context in this game just this is a game that released what do you think you'd be like yeah yeah right needs few updates this would be if this was a studio that hadn't really done anything like this before and this was their first attempt at making a big game it would be a very admirable first attempt however the context of this is CD project red like 500 people with like a hundred million dollar budget probably is actually significantly lower than red dead redemption to hugely lower oh now now want to know actually I can find out yeah I wrote cyber bunk when I was looking at cyber I'm generally more down on CDPR than most people I think I'm fairly down on the Witcher 3 I I think I've been over this on a previous conversation but the game is quality wise with the exclusion of the bugs which is a big ask I know roughly equivalent in terms of quality to what I would have expected from CDPR I'm finding many conflicting stories on the budget Wikipedia says it was 330 million which I don't believe I don't think so I think it's around 120 140 yeah so I found something that said CD project red Q3 2020 presentation about non-GOG development expenditures was about 111 million it's like that seems more reasonable oh red dead red after two is probably like half a billion dollars I wouldn't be surprised yeah it was incredible and they have like 800 people there well I think it's not only the people who are in Rockstar like North the main studio but also like pulling from all the other studios because they don't make other games anymore it doesn't seem like Rockstar make anything like Max Paynes or bullies or LA Noirs or midnight club anymore it's just their open world games oh hmm no that's not the budget that doesn't make sense I'm probably not going to find this information but yeah good point actually a lot of that budget might went to marketing it is the biggest marketing campaign I've ever seen in my life that's huge I don't like the bright yellow with that one dude on it I think the cover I do you like the cover see it's unique it's what I like about it um yeah in the sense because guy with a gun on the box definitely isn't oh that's a bit you know no yeah the guy with the guns a bit shit but I actually like the colors I do like the color I like the yellow but yeah but I don't like the cover as a whole the game to me is I don't know why the game is like especially night city and how it's it's the most interesting to look at I feel during the night when it's mostly dark with but with all the lights and stuff illuminating everything I just don't feel like the big bold fully yellow just really kind of gets that across and I think it's just a pride of just color I can hate you imagine if it was blue or red or green it's just shit but yellow yellow is where it's at man I don't know I think a big bold red you know you could do a lot with red white and black and stuff like that I don't know well I guess I could do the defining thing about the drama right is contrast that's part of what makes the aesthetics so striking right is like the streets at night in the rain with this visual overload of neon signs and lights and sounds and colors everywhere alongside it so I feel like when you're marketing something the cyberpunk setting like that's kind of the angle you want to be playing though admittedly I I've started to shift away from me like oh this is what cyberpunk is so it should be that it is funny because I did a video on mancon divided and I shit on the setting because I'm like oh Prague like why is it somewhere else yeah well I've changed my mind since then like now I don't care like it's whichever setting you want I would argue that's one of the most creative cyberpunk art styles ever especially in evolution renaissance that's just genius I yeah I've changed my mind the city of Prague it's really cool to have these old European buildings juxtaposed against this really high tech stuff yeah it's probably what it'd be it's like nowadays you know people you know you compare your gadgets with the buildings which one changes first and how long does it take you still have the sidewalks that have the weeds growing up in between the cracks like a step and you'll be in front of it this is the new building and it's clearly modern and different and it's next to this other building that's just still kind of old and bricks someone will drive by with a car that's super high tech at Tesla and then behind it it'll be just some some old car yeah it's something I really like about night cities design actually that I do want to raise it looks like this absolute mangle that was built like very iteratively I agree I like the way the city looks good I think the city looks awesome it's a shame I think that's part of the trick that the game pulls as well in terms of like density because a lot of the locations that the game takes you to a market to like these little side alleys you got to walk through and it really makes the game feel like this like a real city but then I feel like the areas in between those places and not as dense but the illusion is still kind of nifty yeah I'm definitely immersed when I'm just walking around I definitely believe that this is a real city and it's not difficult for me to do so when you go up the elevator to go to your apartment and then the glass like you're peering through the glass and seeing all the other buildings it feels like you're in this place it's awesome it's just this mangle of skyscrapers and you know buildings offices, apartments all just twisting around each other it feels very iteratively like that yeah no it absolutely does it's like it's cool unfortunately I've seen somebody in chat say man kind of divided city is like three blocks yeah but every door opens buddy every door opens give me dense oh yeah that's what I mean dimension over breadth and small area yeah because in cyberpunk you already see it just like you do with GTA 5 how many buildings can you actually go into GTA 5 is a lot worse than GTA 4 in that regard a lot of people shut on GTA 4 for being empty it's like no it's not you just didn't look around enough there's lots of buildings you can go into lot of places that are just boxes that are empty to take up space you can't go inside and do anything remember how you used to be able to go to clock and bell have you ever gone to clock and bell in Grand Theft Auto 5 no you haven't that's true shit in the fast food toilets and that is a travesty precisely I do like that when you shoot rockets the only black guy in the call is saying it's a tragedy you can't get fast food fried chicken hey look fucking bell if that was the real place I'd be going there every day breakfast lunch and dinner for breakfast you have egg and bacon and chicken in like a muffin not like a muffin with berries in it like a McMuffin why is it called a McMuffin when it's not one it's not a muffin at McDonald's it's just some fucking Mcly I guess a Mcly friggy ordering a number 9 I'll have a number 9 lunch a number 6 to number 7 with extra dip what were they all and I'll have a Mcwater, no Mcice please no Mcice, I like how that's just how it works Mcsomething hey can I get a Mcburger with some McNuggets and a Mcoak can I make it a Mcsmall I'm not that hungry the place was called Donald's McDonald's McDonald's McDonald's McDonald's Mcbeth squads after you can I get the Mc cybernetic arm with the Mc i enhancement oracle can I have the Mcsurgery can I have some Mcsurgery can I use your Mcbother please can I use your Mcbother please oh god I need a McBibass right now can I get this sounds like the setup for a funny movie where someone transports like 200 years to the future where Mcdolls own everything and he has to refer to things that way he's like diabetes like I need my Mcinsulin please president big mac I'm back in my apartment to watch my McTV I'm gonna watch McBuffy the vampire slayer I've been watching that 200 years from now look it holds up oh yeah Theo you could tell you've been watching some of that haven't you what's your latest update I don't know what you're watching it's pretty good guys what do you mean Theo where are you an angel where abouts are you up to he's about to start season 4 I think we have heard things that makes me very worried considering what happened in season 3 I want to be there when you watch a specific episode in season 4 I'll make sure that we but the bright side that Theo recently finished Buffy season 6 which is pretty fucking same really good I just remembered like I was at the shops the other day and I saw a box set for Angel on DVD and I was like now look for it online and it was way more expensive online so I need it I need to have that in my life is this actually a good show well Angel yes it is surprisingly yeah you gotta be in it for the long haul though yeah it is a good show an asterisk that says the asterisk are you willing to sit through two seasons of not good you can't just skip the two seasons no it's all you gotta watch the whole thing but hey I don't think anybody would fault you if you quit in the first few seasons yeah that's a tough sell but at the same time I don't know anyone who's completed the show and gone it wasn't worth the shitty episodes see Buffy and Angel aren't like the Clone Wars where people oh god here we go season 3 guys oh but season 3 is bad well then it gets good in season 4 um season what was still bad I'm afraid well it gets good in season 5 then funnily enough by the way guys apparently in Rebels Bo Katan got given a dark sabre without having to get it in combat yep I think that Star Wars girl sent me a clip of it she gets handed it by someone literally the same scenario as in Mandalorian but there is no bullshit about how you have to beat someone in combat that's completely made up apparently it was funny because we treated it in our coverage as though it was set up in TCW or Rebels it's not even apparently so uh man I'm amazed that they actually did that like whatever so stupid manufacturing drama you got Bo Katan wait sorry Bo Katan also by the way the way that a character's name sound should be the same across all like why would it be Bo Katan and then Katan what do they call her in TCW is she in that uh who sorry Bo Katan Katan what's the consensus on that oh her Bo Katan everyone calls her Bo Katan in Mandalorian let me let me pull out pulling it up on her I think they just said Katan and I don't know I might not be she calls herself Bo Katan I don't know fio is a pretentious a-hole who doesn't know what the hell he's talking about sorry you got five dollars for it Zach actually was the last defect that he said something similar he is not a fan of your w takes well he can continue to be wrong then he's going to send another super joy roast and it juggles how dare you keep asking me what the best moment of TCW is I never have a good answer so I'm not going to give one oh that's reassuring what's the best moment here's the thing guys when you watch episode 3 and you're looking at Obi-Wan and Anakin going on adventures do you believe that between episode 2 and episode 3 that Obi-Wan faked his death shaved his head and got an implant that shape shifted his shape shifted his face into a bounty hunter and then went on an adventure as a totally different what like this is it's insane that that's canon apparently it's canon that arc was such fucking nonsense this weird like battle in a gauntlet to like to get into this like weird club of bounty hunters there's another $5 way there telling me to be wrong there choosing to be blighted by hate listen Theo maybe if you watch the show again he being wrong you'll be knowing that soon you could pay me well maybe you could pay me but oh you know what I wouldn't do it well I don't want to explain this I watched once more with feeling and I don't know get why it's so great Waller could you explain it's like I would like to say I don't want to go into it for spoilers it's one of the best episodes of Buffy so I would want to just watch it again and listen it's all like we're not trying to come across as mean it's just to explain it in this context would be spoilery as fuck I came off too rude I don't mean as in you weren't listening before I mean you know like pay close attention because you'll be rewarded for it maybe maybe what do you think Theo if I said it's not even close to being close with that with that it gives the right impression like Buffy is better and it's not even close to being close that ball of season 6 is the worst season of Buffy it was funny because I think were you there when Theo finished season 6 for you in the call I can't remember I was yes we fucking talked about how good season 6 is for like 2 hours or some shit I don't even remember it was just fun because it was just going over everything it's it's good shit everyone should go watch it and if you hate it that's okay too well I it's very holistic to use a vague word you guys actually like Star Wars this is something I haven't figured out yet oh when you say these guys do you mean chat or us cause yeah we all hate it everyone here I thought you guys were like really passionate about Star Wars but like you don't like anything we just went over how much we like Buffy that's not Star Wars okay so I think there are two good movies there's two more that I like and then the rest I don't like I like the games I like the prequels well I like the prequels yeah but um but I would not describe myself Star Wars fan I like the first two films and that's about it I think there are some neat ideas I don't know but what does it mean to be a fan of something that you like everything in it I don't know people just don't like anything we like New Hope and Empire fucking shit done based on like how the thing itself there's a whole bunch of Star Wars games that we've got a lot of praise for oh yeah the games the old games love that shit did you like Fallen Order not really it was fine yeah it was fine did you like Rogue One I like the ending of Rogue One I'd have to re-watch it to tell you it's been so long at this point I remember being quite bored it felt like a 40 minute sequence that they had a clear vision for and then they needed to put the rest of the film on it yes I think that's accurate actually that describes how I feel didn't know that you like I've always said that I like the prequels I just think they're bad they look like they're bad I'm the one who hates them I enjoy them it's yeah I don't know so who's up for me actually getting into super chat seeing what the community has to say about Cyberpunk 2077 sure sounds fun the first one says very very relevant you guys want a Krabby Patty yep wow I was expecting a little bit more discussion on that but okay fine like you can't get one in the game can you 4 hours in Mola 4 hours more like 3 hours and 46 minutes loser dab uh hi Mola, hi rags he would say hi he's just a little bit busy have you seen the Berserk motion comic by Studio Taka episode 2 just recently on YouTube it's good rant Theo, your anime what does that mean I have heard about this but I have not looked into it I presume it's someone just incredibly desperate to get animated Berserk that isn't terrible I wonder how well that's going it's not going to be but good god it has a really bad history with animation it's got one good adaptation that does some of it but then it ended of course so and then the manga kept going and there was more to do and they kept trying to make adaptations and it didn't go too well but yeah hopefully that is good shit and Berserk fans go have a look at it I guess Mola with dramatic voice silence rags I do not wish to be horny anymore I just wish to be happy also hi rags I'm sure we'd appreciate that holy moly is that the legend himself the white light? I love your prototype videos it's good to see you man I hope you're still here it's been 3 hours and 46 minutes but uh yeah 48 minutes idiot for fuck's sake completely changed since you last looked at it this is classic white light all your information is out of date how many silver play buttons do you have Mola? 17 how many do you have I can hardly move why do you have so many silver play buttons because well I got you know swindled multiple girlfriends at once so I gave them each one thinking just keeping them under like a big coat like you want to buy some silver play button like a silver play button empire I mean I could do with the amount of subscribers I have it would not be a bad it'd be a beskar armor and all the bullets would deflect off of it do you get shot at regularly? an aura of clout I want that to be an unlock in a video game I want a clout aura that intercepts incoming projectiles 3 seasons into clomor so far I give it a watch it while doing chores so you have a distraction from the bad bits out of 10 what a riggy endorsement holy shit well that's about accurate white light is the best more of the boy I demand it agreed wow can't believe you just said that about yourself that is so fucked up exposed you know how it is so you're working on the script now for your cyberpunk video I'm working on a lot of scripts but cyberpunk is one of them I've got a lot to say there can be a 7 hour video no it will be like a 40 minute video I would rather die than make a 7 hour video on this do you think if you finish a script and then it got a huge update would you then play that update and then update the script or would you just release so I'd release because I would have accounted for any possible patches they're not going to overhaul the game but before I managed to put the video out alright the race is on yeah blues brothers e-fab movies when it's the best film oh that could happen eventually definitely not out of the question do we have much to say about it though well I mean that logic is kind of hard to tell if a movie will work for e-fab movies ever honestly never know and they can get scrapped if they don't work out yeah hey rags and white light yeah this is what I mean it's kind of officialised the podcast to get someone like white light on here once you get white light and count dankula once you get those two it's kind of like you're the best podcast on planet earth I'd say because you two are the two sides of the your cool coin right I've donated you my aura of clout so you're not projecting out into the internet sphere waiting for more to say well seasoned argument wait is that like they want you to say a line for a meme video I don't know I'm not sure I just did say it again I mean if you want me to say it a second time I guess you're going to have to send in a super chat because that you know there's costing a lot to be able to say I'm not attached to the uh sorry I can't do it just do it you owe me more because I've made the podcast official fine wheel seasoned argument wow there you go I give you a delicious compliance top post well done hey well please recite this in your epic voice what the fuck is this I am the storm that is approaching provoking black clouds in isolation I am reclaimer of my name born in flames I have been blessed my family crest is a demon of death what is that is the lyrics to bury the light a character's battle theme for devil may cry five that just launched on pc that's not pretty edgy how do you know that edgy as fuck and I know that because devil may cry five is my favorite game ever okay still waiting on that video Theo well the script got deleted so you you tube you were you tube I don't but I want to a youtuber in in practice uh no wait in theory that's the one one day in practice I hope to get there eventually oh god chat's exploding with it there you go there's your audience bury the light yeah high rags oh shit we didn't mention gene at all while uh well tonal does here damn who's gene gene is a character he created an original character on a little game we play we draw pictures and stuff like Galathar the skin you heard of the eater of skin Galathar or edgy the edgy what is that no you've not heard of Galathar the eater of skin I don't know like I'm just asking you guys are just saying syllables at me man I've got no idea what it was what I said was words I'm pretty sure I'd have to check but still it's a pretty simple question have you heard of Galathar gene the destroyer gene the destroyer in Galathar gene the destroyer yeah ha ha ha ha ha ha yeah well that's that's gonna happen these are the three lines that's gonna be the destroyers the edgy time uh I'd say that your life will be enriched if you could find out about Galathar it's a good one Galathar, is that what his name was? Galathar the skin eater Galathar the skin eater right and who's who's OC is that isn't that just the universe is OC you clearly pronounced skin eater as if someone might not know how to spell that or something or how to say it properly Google bit and I have not found anything that didn't come up after a Google I'm kind of disappointed actually come on Google hey it does come up in Google images okay so you got a good selection here of stuff I'll put it on screen for everyone else are you this is what you can see from Galithos can eat her as the first results do you understand it now right so he's a he's a he's a vicious man-eating plant skin to not mind it's different people it just okay he just eats your skin that's right it sustains him free circumcision that's to be decided to be written in look I like that his buddy Chumbo eater of worlds is actually there I don't know what's not to understand the schoolboy with a glove on is there as well right where's up where's what was the one that I came up with the guy the guy who could balance excepting couldn't snap neck let me look let me look this up Galithos yeah that's edgy the edgy metal commander what the fuck is the god of wall streams it was I haven't been streaming for one and a half days you come your tits okay yeah put the tits down I was like ten hours this week like leave me alone whoa ten hours for a week whoa listen motherfucker okay I I need to do other stuff wow look at you doing other things what do you know I'm low Chumbo doesn't care what he's eating he just shoves it in I mean yeah and he actually eat the world well it really depends on whether or not you trust his the label he gave himself right I mean he doesn't look like an honest guy to be honest what about him is lying face yeah I mean look at his eyes what are you trying to say those aren't honest eyes I'm kind of upset what is he eating at the moment what is that green thing is that Galitha see I could see how you'd make that mistake but it wasn't it wasn't it good he's eating good it was it there was a drawing of mine like going to gloop or something you see Chumbo will consume good like these images to scale yes yes okay so he Chumbo's no how does he eat a world if he's small good is the size of a really big we have scale so Galitha is about the size of a bed which means that well because scale the long pause after which means that which means nothing well I just the answer you got good is the size of a planet and if good is being consumed by Chumbo eater of worlds that gives you a sense of scale so Chumbo is what if Chumbo wants to eat kind of planet man is it Mercury or is it Jupiter yeah all of them you can consume them all good is the size of the Milky Way okay Theo makes a good point if you eat Jupiter it's it's not like eating anything at all it's like consuming farts yeah you know if you don't love the farts if it's a big fart it is a big fart and there is a nice to we center at the middle well except yeah or the core of Jupiter is like a big rock so I guess it's not chewy at all it's actually and see Galitha is not interested in that sort of thing he just wants skin no he's and Galitha eat Chumbo skin I don't know that's one of those I'm probably that's one of those super smash brothers things we throw them together and just see what happens I just see what happens do you have like a simulation we're designing one specifically for this this is a you might have thought like oh I'm the first to ask this question no comes up all the time Chumbo versus Galitha the simulation explodes by simulating Chumbo's true power so we might have to talk to NASA which I do regularly do anyway create a Lovecraft in God accidentally if the simulation creates him for realsies I actually do think it'll be worthwhile having him in the universe as much as he'd eat your planet is still gonna be beneficial why happens when you get eaten by Chumbo do you ascend to heaven or is it you just get fucked over and that's it you it applies Chumbonics Chumbonics yeah like you'll enter a different universe of Chumbo an alternate yeah yeah really that that's how and that is how the MCU is gonna multiverse all right yeah Chumbo I'm gonna be fair it is gonna be something like that it should be Galactus I think it should be Chumbo because if they'd mishandle the character it's not gonna be as devastating because Galactus is quite important imagine if it was Chumbo like Chumbo I've come to bargain he's holding Dr. Stranger that image Chumbo equals Chumgod yeah like the Church of Chumboology would worship Chumgod Chumbo is good that you joined Chumbo underneath his teeth he believes they're all supposed to be flat Chumbo confirmed for Spider-Man 3 I look at I mean it's probably gonna happen yeah he is the the sinister six is big bad it's you know it's like in the game when I'm they're all fighting and then instead of clawing up it's Chumbo and then Spider-Man bites him because he was bitten by a radioactive spider and Chumbo was bitten by a radioactive human spider person he becomes a giant human spider radioactive worldy spider Chumbo yeah so exciting stuff can't wait to see that movie next one says Hale Zack Snyder now we've got info it's coming out in March right this the coming out March yeah so we got to get watching as a big old crew we got to watch this the DCEU ahead of it and record that the movies we've already watched Wonder Waman that was pretty bad not gonna lie yeah I know yeah so sorry you guys did just said you don't like anything watch it again we like loads of stuff recently put a whole bunch of minis about a show called mandala well we liked Hill House we did and we liked Blight manner you're all wrong about that show yeah we we're gonna try and watch more you'll see some coverage of the Snyder cut right here on on e-fabs great I'm playing cyberpunk now but I need more Ram hi rags you're like I'll load it yeah where did that meme originate download some more Ram was that like a like an old minecraft cringe thing they the guy was asking a Minecraft developer how much Ram do I need to wait this is a different meme I've completely fucked this up that could be still a better launch than no man sky andromeda anthem and Fallout 76 it at least I'm not money-wise I mean getting pulled from the the Sony store like that yeah exactly and there's a bunch of fucking garbage on the Sony store and grumbeted didn't get pulled from Matt having a seven-year-old tech doesn't mean you're an overall bad game I don't know I don't understand what you know there are seven-year-old games that are fucking great right now so they're even there are even older ones than that do you guys know that games started a whole bunch of time ago pretty cool yeah like three seconds ago right like bowling a cup really old looks like I'll have to skip this one until I get a better system but I wish you all a massively great stream why thank you max in Thanos voice okay I used the meme to canonize the meme it nearly bankrupted me but the work is done it will always be I am the storm that is approaching who's max this again is max from DMCA 5 DMCA 5 wow yeah that's nintendo's uh really I like the idea of DMCA 5 you play as like Nero a an agent of whatever I don't know like some corporate like legal team and his his job is to go around to youtubers and chop them up yeah like it's like a cyberpun type willed we're applying DMCA to somebody is to shoot them through the heart with your like fucking cease and desist yeah there there is no music in this game of course though there is no music I feel like EFAP is so jaded by all the crappy media coming out nowadays that she a mediocrity like Hill House and blind man I feel like a masterpiece in comparison if that were true then we'd love CD project reds brand new project right because it's pretty also Mandalorian we did door but then again Mandalorian isn't mediocre it's fucking garbage fire so I don't know hey a muesli gene cream here okay yeah thoughts on doom cock and ass simping hard for the Mandalorian everyone is welcome to feel whatever they feel in relation to media however a thought upon that I would be interesting to find out what exactly is so good about the Mandalorian that isn't the simple image of characters you recognize I would like to know what is meaningful about the Mandalorian good main theme sure I like them yeah all right there you go we did it also currently having fun with cyberpunk even if it is a flawed game technically sure what I did I didn't buy cyberpunk wow the correct I'm playing DMC five funnily enough right now it's funny you guys are talking about it because I randomly like I could I could play it again and then 10 minutes later you start talking with DMC five like okay that's we're playing virtual or I don't I didn't buy that I just randomly had to ditch and I don't remember any of the combos and I'm sucking hard right now a hoi lads love your AC videos white light wow you made a thanks man videos about air conditioners that's a bit interesting yeah well you know I made a video about death stranding so it just the next logical topic was air conditioning you sound so wonderfully like cynical I guess is that the voice I probably tie that to the most you're like a variation on Theo people say that I don't know I just I just don't hear it man no I just don't hear it yeah I just don't hear it even expect it's okay we can tell the difference here at EFAP I love you both great I'm glad you guys have at least like something yeah I don't I like that metal guy I mean I'm German I don't get to I don't get to like anything well deserved punishment oh good job Dingo dial thanks yeah well it's funny right because most people here are totally contextless I make it a video on Crash Bandicoot 4 it's not gonna be done anytime soon because I've made it my mission to 100% this game it is a nightmare I hate kind of hate playing through this game to go 100% completion I still love this game but I you I I'm tempted to are in that video hey look let me think all right funny it's funny it's kind of lucky that I'm because I'm thinking like if you if you could hear some of the times when I've been getting really angry with this game but it's a little too embarrassing getting mad over this kitty platformer game but um yeah I are dingy dial I didn't say dingy dial I said Dingo dial all right it's a very respectful character he was joining the retired life in his restaurant that's in New Orleans for some reason even though he's Australian and and it got blown up thanks to our nobody in particular I don't think and he's on a quest to just get back to its home it's a nice simple story good motivation Dingo dial is more of a character than Mandalorian everyone's more of a character fuck sake man can we just ban this guy for hate speech I think so he's being a fucking Dingo dial like seriously hey that's pejorative that's you can't that's that's you know I don't care what page it is whether orative or anal-tive like it doesn't matter I think it's valid regardless I'm thinking of making a video about the time the thing that made the me the most upset about 7.2077 the weak-ass character creation they hyped it up and it is so lacking I don't care if it's first person it needs to be a dress you got a penis selection but you don't have you don't even have dragon age inquisition levels of customization of your face or anything else you think you've got a lot of customization on that penis though you know it's not even a slider it's just six possible combinations the absence of sliders is really weird in you know current year of it's kind of weird though it's a first person game that has character customization but you need to look in the mirror to see what you'd look like unless you're driving third person in the car why isn't the game in third person Chris Davis made a very good point about that he said some in along the lines of you know apex legends has its entire business model entirely predicated I saw that dressing up in a in a manner that you can't see for four people you don't know and yet millions fantastic point we suck as a species don't we yeah we do some cool I hear the approval of strangers for digital accomplishments I paid for rags is a power-bottom doggo I think you'd agree with that if he was unmuted yeah I have a clip to prove that Lord long man of mubeslington abbey did you hear about the finale do you think it was a gimmick or good I'm assuming they're referring to Mandalorian and I thought it was so don't worry we covered it earlier in this podcast I don't need to repeat it we'll do a whole podcast for it okay all those because everyone out there is probably like oh what do you think about Mandalorian wasn't it so cool when Luke sliced the robots enough I'm gonna be like you know what no it wasn't cool fucking line PS hello wagsies oh wait I'll you know I'll save the rags comments now because because I might you know just pile them all on when he gets here it's gonna be great a white light really enjoyed your assassin screen destiny videos glad to see someone like you critique Ubisoft games the way you do a problem man I like critiquing Ubisoft games for some reason brings me a special pleasure I actually think they're really good in some aspects and are often really bad in just as many so I'm very passionate about talking talking about them I don't think they're just a boring experience I think they're incredibly remarkable in some ways and incredibly remarkably bad in others I think they see perform you like is one of the problems that those games have they're the similarities between a lot of them and like the trends that they go through where for a period of time they were all copying assassins creed and then for a period of time they were all copying Far Cry and then a period of time they were all copying like you know this sort of Odyssey not origins kind of like thing yeah yeah it's a very cyclical hi rags what's your devil dad oh hi cool let me check I think it's I let me look at it and find out because I don't remember off the top of my head it's pretty good I've done pretty well in it this guy I've done pretty well 319.4 is there they go I don't know if that's good I don't know I'm assuming it is yes that's in second second yeah I think it's pretty good but it's it gets tough definitely hard but yeah I feel like more and code don't like it the people like things they don't like there is the one significant piece of augmentation I think is worth considering as as quite valid being if everyone likes what Mandalorian did in season 2 and praises it and goes nuts over it then all of us have to suffer that we will get that forever and that Disney will see it as the hey this is what style should be that and we're like yeah everyone's gonna it's all gonna be garbage is all we're gonna crap there's gonna be no characters and the plot is gonna make no sense and it'll be contradictory garbage but but hey right yeah and so I'm cool with anybody liking you know whatever movies and TV whatever like it doesn't really affect me however it will affect me if everyone praises what they did in that finale and we end up getting that throughout all of season 3 so you just hate it to teach Disney a lesson that is a strange interpretation that you got from what I just said I'm gonna teach Disney the corporation a lesson I'm gonna imagine all the money and everything that Disney's getting from this and I like wait wait wait wait he doesn't like it oh I guess we gotta shut it down everyone one long man doesn't like it I mean there are really like because of how stupid they were but this is the problem if I'm like yeah I mean carry on doing stupid batwoman level shit if you want and I'll just like it's enjoyable for us to react to and hang out with and talk about but I mean if we ever want to get back to like Empire this is not the way pun intended is that even a pun this is the way Mando yeah yeah but wouldn't be a reference you know what you can suck my today okay I don't want to you Germany okay then don't yeah it's pretty far away I don't mind the end of cosmonauts TCW review we gave Mando season one a 10 out of 10 why get some rights and okay the end of season the end of season 2 for a Mandalorian they reference Luke Skywalker I mean you probably give a 10 now all right don't mind me I'm just very upset hi rags is oh wait hello wagsies screeches for the good boy nice kind messages only the second most powerful knee of 2020 oh I get it that's a very edgy super chat in reference to the knee rockets oh mm-hmm well it's the first most powerful I I mean if anyone here hasn't gotten what they're referring to now I know yeah I am yeah okay well those would be what we're talking about Boba Fett's knee rockets you got rocket he's got rockets that come out of his knee pads so fucking cool so cool to see white light love his work cyberpunk outrage is grossly overblown don't get me wrong unpolished but still a very solid game overall either way demon souls game of the year baby also hi rags it's not he wasn't glad to see me after that you had the hardest take of all of us I think you had the least favorable like intro things so that the poor loveless that guy was really like oh no as much as it does annoy me that talk about bugs like is consuming the discourse around the game hmm like it's kind of unavoidable just because of the scope of things it's gonna consume the discourse I mean look how look at the state of the game yeah oh there it is right on time those knee rockets in Boba's armor been there since the 80s alright then I guess I take it back then yeah that changes wrong what nothing about everything we said about them but okay they're still dumb like like wait a minute you guys you guys think there was dumb stuff in the OT like yes yes but at least he didn't fire those fucking new rockets in the cheese who's described as the Mandalorian so then everyone else who's described as a Mandalorian must have a jetpack with a missile mounted on the back of it as well with armor that looks identical wait this is Star Wars lore sweet for all the faults with cyberbomb I'm quite impressed with the new engine with this as a shakedown cruise I think red engine could make some great games down the line having tons of fun regardless man I feel bad for how you come to that this was right before we all just shout on it so what's the functional difference between this in the creation engine I know that only the highest quality bugs yeah that's right we've got CDPR quality bugs I mean they are really funny look my money's worth hilarious Fringetti G watch renegade cuts Rick and Morty video it calls the show problematic while saying Bojack Horseman is superior in about every way okay I'm not sure there is a single element of craft that I think Bojack beats Rick and Morty out no I don't think so I think the animation isn't better that's for sure Rick and Morty is really well animated and has a better look as far as I'm concerned and you know I think it has a stronger dramatic writing as well and it's not even trying to be that yeah we might we might cover that video in future who knows are we gonna ignore that the best cast staff survived a blast from a star destroyer cannon I sent a tweet to you about it if you want to see I mean it I guess that makes sense if in this universe best car is like unstoppable metal other than a random fucking Smith's refinery place best car is vibranium basically in destructive Loneham I like how in black Panther he had a suit that could never be disabled and that was considered a downgrade from a suit that can be disabled yeah I don't know I don't know that I take any issue with the best cost of surviving that blast I guess it with what we see before it should probably survive it yeah it's basically indestructible correction gimmick or redemption oh they're asking if we think the end of season two of bad news a gimmick or redemption it ain't no redemption it's a big neon sign that says we're really sorry about the last Jedi please forgive you lost Jedi peeps are very unhappy with that ending by the way yeah I've seen loads people between about how like that's exactly reasoning so the TLJ's point was that we shouldn't celebrate Luke as this powerful Jedi who slashes down everybody who's in his way rather he was someone who was flawed and needed to be grown beyond but at the same time was a hero for like a core reason of his personality being tied to defense and support and that that's how he won the day in TLJ not you slashing down the 8080s and cutting the head off Kylo rather he stalled them all and taught them a lesson and the good guys survived now as much as that might be the lesson they're going for like the execution mechanics fucking garbled but they're saying that the end of season two of Mando was what TLJ was talking about being like not the answer and so everyone loving it is like annoying to them what my shitty movie was wrong no I will I mean I'm not on either side of that I'm just like both of both of them a fucking shittily written so what do you want from me like it's yeah they're both bad this is some other stuff as well like they that's the worry that like Star Wars is just gonna be about Luke or not any of the characters and stuff and I'm sitting there kind of like meh I know at least my worries after seeing those 11 shows they're planning yeah was it Mark Hamill it was a deep fake Mark Hamill but Mark Hamill did the voice I'm thinking they couldn't be high on Mark Hamill well Mark Hamill was not that as old as he was like chronologically this takes five years after return of the Jedi so it was him he'd look not right it's been a rough five years I look yeah rag stop abusing the guests they're not mohler use the abusive bottom I can be an abusive bottom I just don't get it I'm mohley what's your most loved slash hated lol hero and why loved would be Victor because he's awesome I like the gameplay and his aesthetic is cool as hell most hated because it depends on what era of lol because those are champions obviously obviously it's Israel actually like Ezreal I so help me out Theo you play lol I don't was the question I wasn't paying attention most hated champion in lol oh for me yes or quick explain why and then I will adopt that as my opinion too and he gets a shitload of special treatment in terms of design and he's just incredibly unfun to play against and lane against it's like the game babysits him and he's also the most popular motherfucker in the game so everyone's playing we've asked son of a bitch wow when the occult someone to ask oh I was just joking about the weeb thing but I okay because I don't know wind samurai nothing about League of Legends we find it wow you're just jealous cuz he's cool isn't it annoying when people use a standard when critiquing a bad movie but don't apply the very same standard as something they like it's like some movies are immune to criticism kind of unfair yeah it's annoying not gonna lie it is pretty annoying which people would be more consistent but you know I will know I think I'll take there's a lot of things you could spot in Mandalorian that are also in TLJ and thus you might be able to draw some lines there just saying little connecting points you be like exhibit a and then you'd be like exhibit be maybe like it's the same exhibit it's nice to know that grogu will eventually be murdered by Ben solo interesting route for the writers to take oh yeah I'm a great scene can't wait I want that little fucker to die I was like you how's like you hungry when just stuffs baby your face with loads of innocent unborn children trust me what I just said makes sense if you've seen the show okay right you need to watch the first 20 seconds of Mario Judas die very rough he looks like the one black guy who shouldn't be allowed to say the n-word huh yeah no idea what that's referring to but good luck with that ranks I recognize like the words it's the arrangement that has been a revision on a classic to get us into the festive spirit you'd better watch out you'd better not cry grandma bite the pillow rags is going in dry oh my good you ruined the things that YouTube let through and super chat can you believe it hi I really can't oh hi thoughts on the receiver games much ooh woo games mm-hmm but I don't kind of you know turn a phrase to see again I'm not I mean if you don't recognize and I don't recognize it I think we're in yeah I'm not I'm not really following but what's being put out there feel a little lost stormtroopers might as well kill themselves yeah it's a shock how they don't actually constantly kill themselves by accident they're too stupid to live wait I'll say something hello hello hello why do you sound like ass I don't know I didn't do anything I swear I didn't do anything no Jesus what have you done oh yeah you sound yeah I use sounds really rough and loud sound like a bad person now I'm on the plane during the cry it's all I've done I'm much better with crying I'm gonna reconnect I guess oh you sent him away oh no still get still yeah it's still that thing well well being gay isn't always a about what you choose to have done to you look you have to fiddle with your micro sense because that is that is some that is some Bilbo my goodness did a desk fall next to you oh no you might have swallowed his mic black in there it's in his belly hey pro tip when you cough don't cough into the mic I didn't are you talking to me no I'm talking to the other person who coughed I didn't come into the mic I'm like I'm really far away from the microphone well it was louder than what you spoke so I assumed that it could go further away from what you speak you know turn that all head all right yeah well you know me that could be a real cool thing or it's to microphone I don't know what I'm gonna cough and I'm in the middle of this game so you got you gotta deal with it all right hey Mahler he's in the middle of this game it's unfortunate the crash remove pausing in the fourth iteration I yeah it's a shame hey look all right it's like dark souls you can't pause well that's a lie but like some boomer mom who doesn't understand that he can't just pause the game mom so what do you want so like if I feel like I'm about to cough is that you want me to pause the game and then bring it how often do you hear me cough I've heard it happen all right yeah how often what about rags what about Theo what about white light our guest how many times is he coughed this is a personal attack or something personal interventional attack or Joel and you're going to mention about my coughing yeah all of chat wanted us to do this they asked us last stream enough of your coughing especially with COVID around I gang it up on me all right it's not okay we're putting you on lockdown mm-hmm which is the same as normal but you can't offering 19 yes attack him yes yeah offing equals communist I guess metal died as well oh well wait what is this what kind of man though are you today I don't know suppose that my discord is funny go with it honestly the Empire is the poor retarded kid getting kicked by everyone yet no one says anything because the kid is really big and so they think it's okay well that's a comparison I guess it's okay to bully a big person also table Jean says hi rags oh hi this one just says white light yeah what could that be a reference to hope that was worth the five dollars it's it's probably a reference to all those a lot of those like in cyberpunk you have all the lights I think low lights but that rags excuse me I was angry when Nintendo falsely advertised age of calamity as a prequel to breath of the wild whenever Nintendo does something scummy someone else has to do something worse within a month I guess wait was I thought age of calamity is a prequel is it not is it like not canonical I don't know well because age of calamity is like Hyrule it's like you know the Dynasty Warriors thing and obviously that isn't on the same tier as like proper Zelda so maybe maybe it isn't canonical because I don't want it to be that way I don't know yeah I haven't heard to be honest with you I probably ask you for information on it very well I don't know I haven't paid much attention in Nintendo this year because they kind of haven't released a lot this year have they I mean what have they released like that and they're releasing a theme park they are I guess that is there they're cool new thing Super Mario World or Super Nintendo World or something oh boy universal it's just a bunch of like paved brick roads and turtles what you can kill you courage children to jump you jump on them the flesh splatters everywhere and then the parents like Jesus Christ and then the people they're like they're not real don't worry they're not real it's like well have you considered taking these mushrooms fucking Lord don't let the smash youtubers anywhere near it what where you punch people out of your field of view it's like why didn't they explode I was thinking kids we've got to get on our level yeah our brain is just elsewhere wow my brain is in Australia with Dingodile let's see whoa try to get back to us sounds like the most Australian critter yeah true Dingodile is kind of great like he's one of my favorite characters in any video game he's just funny like this genetic abomination who just wants to live in a rest have a restaurant and cook food I do know you sound back to normal okay I don't know places any to cook food I guess the driver shed itself because I listen back to myself was like I don't know what the fuck there was I never heard that before in my life well you're like yeah when I when I tested it and talk there was like a voice in the in my head had said okay like we're as is like we're picking up from somewhere record it and check for EVPs that's gone now they it has this active plasm all over my microphone now check check this check this audio for EVPs check this audio for EVPs no I'm good I'm good there's no vice presidents in my microphone I at least one giggled I'm fine with that imagine if Joe but oh wait no he's imagine if wait wait sorry I lost track of the joke completely so something to do with the VPs hiding in your microphone so I don't know I guess imagine well no she's not okay so imagine Mike Pence hiding in your microphone that'd be pretty scary wouldn't it I don't know why he took way too long I'm just here trying to figure out who the fuck is VP of America uh five I had better cannon fodder than Mando both alliance and outlaws the heroes were vulnerable and the whole show had is better sci-fi west and hi rag hi I wouldn't even slightly be surprised for us to rewatch firefly and conclude as better than Mandalorian you have to be pretty terrible I haven't even seen it we've all decided that Joss Whedon is terrible at storytelling even though we do you guys like firefly I don't know shit about firefly I have not seen it I just only hear a good thing I haven't seen it I'm surprised you are late that we don't shit all over it is that what you're trying to get at yeah yeah I'm almost there but definitely better than Mando at this point yes there's no well why don't we just list off everything in the world that you think is better than Mandalorian Auschwitz be here a while I like how Mando isn't even a real Mandalorian he is from some weird Mando cult that's not respected by true Mandalorians I just appreciated that about season two he's like wait you take off your mask what the fuck are they what I was like oh he's one of them he's like you fucking weirdo he takes off his helmet clearly his down syndrome like oh he's one of them he thinks the helmet protects him from oxygen you know they just believe weird things saw you guys on but boss won't let me stop the slaughter line to watch hope it's a fun episode stop the slaughter do you work in a slaughter house oh no well imagine watching EFAP while cutting the heads off of cows like what a weird day you must be having yeah I feel like EFAP kind of matches that vibe a little bit you know what animals dying yeah you can see how they can blend yeah compliment you I can see that just perfectly I mean EFAP is generally half the time it's I mean animal shitting all over things it's animal killing things like art yeah so don't make sense give me give me a burger that's true you didn't kill a lot rags not gonna lie would prefer they got Sebastian Stan winter soldier actor to play younger Luke he's awesome and looks a lot like Mark Hamill I mean I would have been more involved with that than weird Loompi face Loompi face where he can't emo or it'll become clear that he's a monstrosity yeah and he can't really do many speaking well we're talking about Mando are we talking about yeah Mando who what wait what part is on you yeah I was Loompi face I was doing a thing yeah I was doing a thing where you're talking about another thing and then I applied that in its attributes to a different thing it's part of the joke all right nobody understood it though I'm sorry that we we ruined your terrible joke it wasn't a terrible joke just because you you didn't understand it doesn't mean it's a terrible joke because you're like it can't show any emotion or else people will all right all right okay we're talking about Mando are we talking about deep love your stuff white light also hey Pedro what pass gal um I think sorry I may be paid for like like when vulture said that's a spider man before he tried to kill him I think so I think that's because it's south boy I think he adds that to the end of his messages whenever he does hey Pedro yeah what's up Pedro you have a good one good afternoon September horse rags I would say I purchased the services of a friendly hooker in cyberpunk 2077 just to see if it would be like super awkward or not it was all right it was all right mine had no head and t-post lay her down on the bed and fuck her neck hole yeah it's terrifying because cyberpunk because cyberpunk it's very cyberpunk that's true um just watching Mando season 2 episode 1 rags said the desert town looks fake I felt that way but for the night city in the first scene to a much stronger degree that night city did feel kind of fake yeah the one where Mando killed that guy in cold blood by hanging him up and letting him get consumed by like alien dogs oh yeah yeah he's like I'm not gonna kill you and then he just where the like in Batman begins I don't kill people except I'm gonna leave you to die yeah that was bullshit but um that city I think the only reason it was benefiting is because it was nighttime and so you couldn't see beyond you know the line of sight like a building or two so it's like it just looked like half a street and everything else was darkness and so it's like believe us there's a whole city here and you're like uh-huh all right and e-fab about games with white light this is gonna be my favorite e-fab to date well it depends on you like it yeah yeah that's how you feel about cyberpunk I guess yeah like if you like yeah if you really love it then yeah I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm not if you love cyberpunk I want to know what games you hate yes can we get an e-fab movie well if your thing was about that you can carry on your booze means nothing oh right yeah yeah can we get an e-fab movies for League of Extraordinary Gentlemen same director as Van Helsing and the real greatest crossover event we're gonna do that for next Halloween I think we'll uh that'll be Sean Connery with him right I think it was the movie that made him want to retire um but his last movie was some weird animation that looks awful but will probably e-fab movies as well now Mandalorian caused phantom men in civil war oh my I mean I doubt that I'm sure it's chill like this is like did you like it yeah did you know war yeah I'm sure it'll be all right it's just uh some people think it's good some people think it's really really shit uh unrelated theory China is the reason Thanos sucks in end game in infinity war Thanos wants to wipe out half the universe so that the other half can eat Mao Zedong the founder of the ccp once said that it is better to let half of the people die so that the other half can eat their fill so what you're saying is that Thanos is Mao Zedong reincarnated for purple that's the most important changes that he's purple well like the yeah and I guess instead of cracking the sympathetic angle they were like oh shit this is too close to Mao Zedong let's make him super villain in the second one make sure we make it be whole there you go that makes sense end game is way worse than infinity war like who disagrees with that and where can we find them you guys well I don't know it's just like but he's so much worse it's like you guys prove to me that killing half the universe isn't good enough I'm gonna kill all of it lame I still remember the cinema just being disappointed in that moment like no he's all crazy evil now he's why is it by the way that like Thanos is as strong like Thanos can fight Thor without any of the stones but I was under the assumption that the power stone was why he's got the two stones that count no but oh right I don't know that's that's that's no rags they're not in food you don't know how the reality is doing in the full stone or whichever one's he didn't know wow good job you got that wrong what one it was the power stone in the space stone oh no I as the most powerful ones oh no as the the ones he had from like the very beginning basically oh yeah I was going off like what what would be the most powerful one by far it's kind of insane yeah well powerful is an interesting definite I would say most helpful in like a fight is gotta be the realities so right you can turn someone into sludge like I don't see how except he never does no well why can't he just say well actually I win yeah yeah it's a it's a weird one but um in end game in end game he is stronger than when he has the gauntlet that he for why yeah I mean remember like we are he was strong enough to to throw captain marvel away when he had zero stones but when he had all six he couldn't headbutt her and in fact he was terrified of her get into Thanos and he'll take care of it and then end game with no the room is vindicated like because I said a reality stone you've been you've been exposed rags how does it feel I just vote for being correct as usual like all of the things that I say super correct also they're wrong and I say they don't give you money for being wrong how's that work this is the she even fro dilemma are things correct because I say that they're correct I say them or does me saying them make them correct I don't I don't know it's it's the thing it's the dilemma it's I don't we'll never know maybe I'll give it a go say something yeah oh um let's see oh god what what's I don't know how I how I can test it the cyberpunk is a mediocre game oh it's true oh my goodness there we go cancel my video Trini's upset it's ringing building a house like he's he's he's building a house to live in month for when he beats this game yeah it'll be it'll be my house that I sit in when I've destroyed half the universe except I've beaten Crash Bandicoot and I get to look over the sunrise no the sunset and then have a little smile on my face and then end credits it's not a grateful universe though because you've murdered them all things are correct when rags says them because the universe is too scared to disagree with rags that's very true that's what happens well that's a good rags it's all what all everyone on efeb everything goes through rags as we established this is all delayed everything goes like it's being approved in the little script that he's constantly saying yes or no to kind of amazing how we managed to maintain the podcast this way but I think it worked yeah also white light your death stranding is one of the best pieces of content on this entire platform I've watched it at least three times now hey what me what a legend watching it yeah 21 hours well yeah worth every minute I applaud the dedication yeah I mean that you know I'm assuming you go over a couple of things in there and it's probably worthwhile seeing it a second time I make more than one point a contrary to reddit's fucking believe oh no did you seem to think that I accidentally made a seven hour video essay but I hate when it happens so you must really love death stranding if you spent that much time talking about it yeah it's just like it's a commentary and then people on reddit are like oh you could have made this video in 15 minutes oh that would be an uncommon Terry Jesus Christ man well I mean no reason to bring him into this yeah poor Terry I'm already up to what is it like 11 hours on my tfa series and it's a two hour film I can't remember anymore um you see sometimes when you want to talk about a thing you just end up talking about other things and then you've talked about lots of things life um it's away chumbo true this is this is so Leonardo de gonzo in chat he says I like death stranding okay legend what do you have any do you have any comments to me oh I guess legend was the comment but if you'd like to elaborate on that I agree you don't have to so it's fair enough so uh yeah it's free fucking country you can stay in there wait which country I'll say anything oh I don't know anymore night city night city country sweet hey guys and mr rag hello hi all right your inflection implied that there would be more oh there will be but I was waiting for everyone to say hi back and we only got three out of six so far hi hey a cd project red can do five out of ten we can do three out of six yeah uh what other dnd podcast slash groups do you guys recommend that are hilarious and not politically correct like dnd crusaders so I don't watch anyone play um I don't really watch some there's some ones that I've watched I used to watch uh let's see you have a every once in a while I'll generally Seth Skorkowsky I like his videos he talks about tabletop RPGs um how to be a great GM sometimes I'll listen to him um I used to watch I used to want uh or listen to Matthew Colville until he told me that um I I need to like examine re-examine my behavior and re-think about what I'm doing because the people that I played dnd with were all white males so yeah fuck that guy but uh yeah I don't really watch too much in the way of um like tabletop RPG content honestly I used to watch the roleplay series back on ejp's channel like way back in the day I used to bunch of those I guess yeah I don't really watch people play tabletop RPGs I play them with my friends usually uh all of you friends yeah white light should still be here since he's a proprietor of the long so he can tell you dumbo's to play doki doki literature club no spoilers though lol yeah I was harassing Chris davison uh about that on twitter that he needs to play it but alas would you recommend it so he can no I haven't though people tell us we need to often we have been seen to play through I know what happens in it so it doesn't matter for me to play it I don't know anything about it I guess it's some schoolgirl game I don't know yeah dude it's it's it's really really light hearted you'll you'll love it we won't hate it are you sure I mean you guys not hating something come on but uh yeah it's very cutesy there are absolutely no dark moments in it at all so you know sweet uh Kylo killed baby Yoda when he left its canon excellent I would like it if they showed us that scene though for my own satisfaction I would like to just come back I want him going gaggle go go and then Kylo stamps and it's over apparently there's a there's like a there's a fetish called a boob scat where ladies poop from their nipples cool you know I'm gonna forget there's nothing that humanity won't won't try maybe I shouldn't have woken up today no I often ask that question but then you couldn't have the you couldn't have the incredible catharsis of letting all of your cyberpunk thoughts off your chest to a to a small room of like-minded individuals an echo chamber where we all just said the cyberpunk has the big gay I don't know why Chad is surprised about what rags said I just sound normal just knowledge I saw some people saying okay it's like that's the correct response everyone else you know thanks rags that's another good one oh thanks yeah off your chest thanks for your thanks it I'm thankful for your thanks um Snyder confirmed on Vero that the Snyder cut will be released in March of next year hail Snyder and the Snyder cut all meat no cheese no bolognese what for bologna um okay yeah we're gonna be checking it out I can't wait for the discussion around that one it'll be fun it'll be really good if people like that one seen in the Mandalorian then they should be calling for a return to the old EU if that with heart crafted over decades they probably would prefer that to be honest they just they're just very hurt from the sequel trilogy okay they're recovering you gotta pat them on the head and be like it's okay uh cyberpunk 2077 is so bad the enemy AI is awful weapon balance is all over the place and the cars feel like driving on ice with butted up tires only positive is that it looks good butter I wouldn't go that far that's not the only positive but I mean I like but the only positive is what but it looks good right hmm you know here's a controversial take on driving people will say that literally any driving system in a video game sucks if it doesn't feel like GTA doesn't matter how actually well coded it is they'll just say it sucks if it's not GTA what do you guys think that's interesting um because I I don't think the cyberpunk driving is good at all I think it's very unresponsive and strangely designed yeah I'm not necessarily applying that to cyberpunk but yeah people are way too quick on the frigate I suppose it makes some sense in that it's going to be the one that's the most popularly like played most familiarity that people will have and maybe just because of that people will associate that one with being the best one yeah you got to dig into their argument find out if what they're saying is true or false character and character assassination is more recognizable than plot holes to most people however numerous and gaping uh I think this is why people prefer Mando yeah I think that's very very clear that they didn't have Luke drink in teddy milk they had him slashing down robots I think that's the key difference it doesn't matter that both the plot lines in Mandalorian season 2 and TLJ are swiss cheese but melted and torn apart and then strewn across several uh chopper things doesn't calling it swiss cheese but melted kind of eliminate the entire point of the well it would it's not for the fact that I continued to say it was then strewn apart and being melted it was easy to do so idiot yeah but yeah but why swiss cheese at all at this point um I just think this is all melt swiss cheese do you think so yeah I like of all things to melt I feel like swiss cheese is pretty good melting because it has holes in it yeah like it comes pre-hold so you can get some extra holes while pulling it apart I don't know I think it's kind of I'm struggling to put that I don't know like shred I think shredded like shredded cheddar would be easier to melt um I mean the swiss the swiss cheese could be shredded actually that's okay we'll have the swiss cheese shredded and then melted well could what about um it'd be easier to melt um what's the like like a soft cheese you know like um what's a nice soft cheese like a goat cheese maybe hmm okay really runny goat cheese let's do that pre-hold pre-hold goat cheese yeah there we go we've described and lorian yeah it is pre-hold goat cheese or cottage cheese cottage cheese that's pre-hold it doesn't look anything like a cottage yeah some bullshit what cottage cheese doesn't look these are the conversations you have at 3 a.m. completely back out drunk 3 a.m. it's only midnight add five minutes to midnight didn't you get on my ass for that early amola I did do you feel bad about what I'm not lying lying about what why when do I like talks I think it's the oh but hi I said this earlier the two of them is too similar we have to separate them out now it's official oh no you should both yeah do you mind do you mind amping up your your northern inflection I'm afraid I can't I don't have a great actual I don't understand your weird albion speak all right speak English down right albion I only speak the video you do any impressions what you want to hear my impression of professor Stallone go on hi he's a pretty good actor seems like I see what you did there I feel like uh I wonder what the when you think about the accents that are the hardest to do I feel like American is super low on that list and like the more you know can you do an American accent for us to what me yeah hey guys I'm fringy I I I I'm from uh I'm from Pennsylvania I uh I like going to mcdonald's um I like watching uh gridiron it's like no I I think there's definitely a difference you sound like you're you're you're you definitely sound less Australian mm-hmm people say bad accent oh get fucked I don't think that's a terrible accent I like the thing oh my god so bad well how about you give me some script or material to work with all right I don't know if it's a script that convinced me because you did you did say the words I'm from Pennsylvania so that should have convinced me if it was the script that was the problem really studies from Pennsylvania usual to be honest well I don't know what you want me to say um I am an American bad I was American that was I am is that how it works you're from America so you get to decide what the accent quality is nice I think it's fine I mean it's all right it's not that bad at all I just like to hear people do American accent I you know you need to ease into it I I can't I can't call on these things you know listen to somebody else for some points is nah no thanks I just I just like they'll boo you that you throw tomatoes at the audience yeah all right sorry I just I I I feel like um what but yeah I think American maybe like southern that's I think that's literally how it works uh oh is that how it works you live in a country you're the arbiter of the accent quality is that how it works because I'm not British and I can tell you when somebody's doing a bad British accent well the funny thing is like if I were in a movie uh and I play a Welsh character and I speak as I do someone's gonna be like oh my god his Welsh accent is terrible oh I'm from Wales but okay yeah well I mean this happens to me like I've had people say you sound American it's like the fucking talking about though I don't well isn't the funny thing about accents is really hard to be definitive about a judgment on them um we we were talking about this with Bly Manor right like uh the criticism of Peter was that his Scottish was too generic it didn't sound like it came from a particular uh I don't know part of Scotland but the thing is there are those accents there are people who have what you would consider a generic accent or whatever and so you're just like as long as this is why there is no accent that is technically uh inaccurate to like to a degree if you have someone who speaks like a perfectly generic Scottish accent but they randomly throw one word in there that sounds off and like their normal accent is the actor and you point that out as a flaw on in some respects like but they what if they did that in real life would that be a flaw I don't understand well and also just um you know like the minor variations in the because you know for for instance like people think that there is just one Australian accent like there is the homogenous one but it depends on like how rich you are for instance if you're if you're poor you're probably more likely to be like hey what's up all right well I'm I'm fucking up here I I'm I'm I'm stressed I'm not performing well under pressure I need line to do lines so what what accent are you trying to do I'm trying to do Australian but you're poor the Australian so like like an average any accent no no like um like if you're if you're you know basically bogan accent like if you live in uh if you live in the western suburbs of fire again well no that don't sound like that bogan um west of Sydney well they don't that's more like your cliche like what what people in America think that uh Australians sound like all of them yeah it'd be more like um yeah kangaroo you know that'd be like we've got a fight that's instead of fight it would be fight like fight the war kind of somewhere we're going where's yeah basically that we're going to bend to go to get the green cube we're going to go to bend to go morty like that's but then again that's that's really saying I'm spot on hey I made some modifications to be portal gun now it's also a real gun I got a real gun morty what are you putting out of my head Rick morning go to Sydney opera house I'm gonna bring my bring the pet kangaroo nobody who goes to Sydney opera house is talking like that yeah it is we're going to go to Sydney opera house meme of pet kangaroo we're gonna go to Sydney opera house I just saw somebody say something about his name's pao chi rags definitely sounds more like a New Zealander than I uh because New Zealander is like fush fush and chips that's that's if you're a New Zealander that's how you say fush no fush fush that don't make you fush the ships fush just a kangaroo um I think that's poisonous spiders and then I guess like what what's like there's variations of there's like 10 million British accents so I feel like any attempt I would any attempt I would try to make would be a butchering of like all the rindles like um like if you're an aborigines well you know you don't mean to call them aborigines what are you supposed to call Steven Stevens Carlos Adam Savage I think the lesson in the story is that uh American is so generic that everyone can do it much like like we're shown no the the moral the moral is that American is so generic that when you do an impeccable American accent even Americans think that you're doing it badly but um you know the more we learn you call them I'll just I look I'll prove you wrong like I'll just speak in an American accent for the next 30 minutes do it go yeah yeah I will all right I will I'll be the Australian and you can be the American what we're gonna do for everyone else I'm I'm for a very I'm I'm from an unspecific part of the down under land place that doesn't exist right give one for everyone else you know metal has to do Russian metal metals he's got to be Russian white lights gotta do um ain't talk to can just keeps the same accent um just means you shiver speak penguin yeah let's go what about me and Theo well uh I don't know I already fucking broke out wow mauler you do uh you do um uh south african sound like john wane how south african girl give me an example I I I don't know what about what about like a character from a movie you're you're you're member vikas from uh district nine oh is that the protagonist yeah um I don't know what he sounds like shaping up to be an interesting effect yeah at least for the next half hour at least as long as we could keep this fucking shit going in it yeah I saw somebody say say no no no roll you can't say nor is it American no how how do americans say no south african how you the fuck do you american say no are you from that's scottish ah it's scottish he's he's been a scottish man in anatica that's not true the original scott came from Antarctica is white as snow exactly yeah one soul is not equal to another oh you come from Antarctica too no you can't say the n word I can i just can't all right uh hey mauler I heard you mentioned a dark in a previous video did you finish it and what do you think of it I got two and a half seasons in and that's when I realized that I was getting more questions than I was getting answers and I gave up um it was really hard to keep track of everything if I was to rewatch it I might have a better shot I thought it was really cool um soundtrack aesthetic and acting and hell I really enjoyed uh the fact that it was in german honestly the german language is pretty neat um well I couldn't fucking follow the storyline to save my life there's like five four timelines and dimensional travel I was getting so lost too many questions not enough answers and then more questions and I was like no the question to answer ratio was it's all out of whack all bamboozle so green gotta do Cajun rags gotta do boston and I've got to do southern droll that was Cajun isn't that the accent like it's like um it's like a like french you're a bit of um american seven I can I I I I uh I don't know what that is that fucking hell didn't sound very russian metal it you gotta talk like you're a um like you're a crawfish it's bullshit come on hey it's like nico bellic go let's go bowling okay drop the accent now and just stop trying uh also hi rags and anyone else who's there hello hello hi howdy howdy I have I have so many peeps that are long time star wars fans devouring all of the content going back years I've been heavily invested as well up till the disney takeover I'm always told that I'm no fun to turn my brain off or this content is just as silly as the old it's exhausting hey this podcast perfect for you we uh we deal with those arguments all the time and yeah the content fucking blows this this podcast just it's sort of turning into like a um like like a like a star wars um emotional support group now that's that's my uh that's my coaching for you uh rags is like would be more accurate like like like like like like I mean come on just listen listen I'm saying it right just do that do like do you like somebody saying that it's Cajun is gambit from x-men but I can't remember what he sounds like so yeah yeah see somebody spelled it out how are you ike like like the hysterical tip well how does canadian go again let's say canadian is basically just american but hey hey every now and then or a boot what's this a boot eh I thought that was just um minnesota no i think canadian is a boot this is well the minnesotan accent is fucking crazy like it stands out in american accent so much you're just gonna have to yeah you just sort of go yeah you know I just encountered a crazy glitch in any case I guess i'm about it american some people often say that australia is kind of the like the glitch of the earth who says everyone says that fringy jeez you wouldn't know because you're a glitch everyone says it we just don't say it when you're around because it's insensitive you want to be nice you want to want to make fun of hats and say yeah all these over there right they've got enough to worry about fringy have you ever been to outback steakhouse that's probably is a place it's a restaurant chain in america probably nothing like australia at all actually do they someone said regs do rottweiler rottweiler that doesn't make any sense oh this is what this want me to start barking i'm getting tired fringy why is twilight princess objectively bad i don't know i do i like princess i can't select the name of a horrendous sexual manoeuvre i fucking love it he's gonna binge you over a barrel and show you the 50 states well fringy's not disagreeing so um but yeah so you know don't worry about being the one person in your friend group who doesn't like all the new style stuff because you can hang out in our comment section i like i i i like how somebody made the observation like molars american accent's better than yours for you it's like yeah molars australian's better than fringy well well yeah it was funny the two years i did voice acting i did way more american voices than i did british ones yeah you probably would because just american is more called for in general even the i mean the americans who are in american like films and you just wouldn't know it because they always have to put it on an accent the funny meme though is that like villain roles would often be british voices just like it's funny that yeah heroes like crocodile dundee he was from australia he was a hero over there yeah crocodile dundee is like the typical australian really an average representative of the best represents what australia is all about that's how that's how you guys say australia australia like that's all i know australia all right that's why i said australia australian no i have to say australia i think i think really fell off a fell off a platform yeah yeah platforming and uh take a little tumble or it's about time you are such a f**king dongo dial someone said to do v's accent v's accent it's not too bad you just have it's it's more not how you say it it's more what you say and it's like um yeah right sargon what are you doing yeah it's the key word to get you started is sargon yeah that's what you need for it right you have to get on the podcast with me what are you talking about sargon sargon sargon what are you doing what are you i mistook v the youtube of v from cyberpunk v for vendetta no v's more like this sargon we have to find a ripper doc he's an optional like companion in the game where are we going he mysteriously survives like all of the gun shoot out f**king places just continuously at the end of the fight thank goodness we survived sargon game of thrones um far worse finished the game last night really enjoyed it plenty of good character moments throughout and tons of choices slash results also high rags hello hi everyone say hi rags well it's because well i mean here you got more league of fringy but they're all they're only hi rags has more been greeted once everybody says hi rags but nobody asks how rags or why once has anything to muller at all i'm not gonna lie i'm feeling a little down under right now why would you feel down under everyone's saying hi to you an element of like that's part of your well saying hello could cure depression muller oh s**t push it further down rags and you can start getting close that's really cool australian accents maybe i can push it down so far i uh instead of being like yeah yeah no no this is it this is it nice and up high what's uh floating on the clouds i am what what demographic can i piss off now like british people i guess british well you got three here so yeah um but what's what's the easiest one to do probably cockney right like this is the one that americans think that british people actually sound like when there's like three cockney people left in britain it's just and like people still people still think that brit's a governor it's other your course well there's basically the only thing i've noticed is that if you're up a class you actually say t and if you're lower class you don't say t have empty space in finesse i do both of those i fluctuate between them because i call metal metal and metal are you having a giggle yeah i'm having a giggle mate wait it's whether or not in it it's like it's whether or not you want to put the effort in it whatever yeah it's these fucking words or not british so fucking british so when someone's waiting for the wakanda accent i am the king of wakanda i am the i'm the king of wakanda i'm better suited for this this is in my blood oh jeez okay all right pulling the race card oh it's it's not because i'm african who sounds like that at all that's because they're not from wakanda what kind of great help we do we do not do that here i am i i never freeze please please uh you gotta roll a r a bit more please style god what do you say wakanda forever wakanda forever wakanda we're gonna slip into the fucking the slipper the knuckles here real quick you gone to knuckles okay do you know do it to wakanda do you know the way why are you like it's like half african half indian um disney stiles is like a cheating girlfriend mando is like saying well at least she only gave the last guy a handy while she baked me a cake all right that would be impressive if she could bake a cake while giving someone a hand job if it's a good cake that's pretty impressive ow it could end up just being a shitty cake i think it'd be hard to give someone a shitty hand job no i mean the hand job part will probably be okay it's just if the cake turns out really good i'll be impressed but if it's a shitty cake it's like is it really impressive to fuck up a cake it's way more complicated than giving someone a hand job and so if they fuck it up i'm not gonna be impressed but if they managed to nail it yeah i would yeah okay i would give them rewards amazing best case i can make off the top of my head mandos character is that he's a violent hardy who softens up increasingly to a child who reminds him of his traumatizing childhood being kidnapped etc this mando doesn't have a character yeah i don't i don't appreciate there's these lies and super chats about whether or not mando has characters like come on now don't be silly norman norman mando um as for that arc um they didn't do any of that that's just something that you might have spotted because he chose not to kill the baby and then cares about it vaguely give the baby there's no um like supporting scenes of him having to deal with his old life and now his new choices or anything it's just the baby is awkwardly like in episodes kind of marketing today's new advent calendar it's about me so i care wow i told you earlier today why little angel you told me that yesterday but it wasn't up yet oh okay look at that adorable little lousy beautiful you got his halo this is some cool stuff being good yeah keeper kins killing it once again with the 12 days calendar of chris crimbus you got um i got the red nose and the antlers we even got sport sport came before fringy not trying to say anything there just stating facts why are you saying yeah they're you think any other of rate like rudolf's organs are red hot wow i mean probably the organs that are soaked in blood so probably no no like like the glowing red you know he's got the glowing red nose does he have any other organs that glow red maybe they're like inside of them or we just don't talk about them well i mean how would anybody know unless they cut him open well maybe if it's really dark right and they're bright enough you could yeah i'm just trying to sleep in the same like room as rudolf be impossible well yeah can you control it you're asking to leave well i don't think he can't is it like um spider man to spider man where he has to have confidence in himself to to have his like to be able to turn it off with fire what rags what rags just said what happens this way about you i'm just saying what happened i don't know you know but just yeah it's all i'm on fans that's all someone said his glowing red rocket you know oh like a new rocket like a south park red rocket well i think he's confusing it with the sleigh that he pulls the red santa's red sleigh the sleigh and the rocket are two different things but you know it's a fan imagine though like if uh if rudolf because his whole thing was that you know santa needs him as like his headlights what if they just shut off in the middle of the thing that he's driving blind well i figure if you're flying through the air you probably won't bump into anything well unless you crash into another plane but yeah you could try and salt asm too the fuck so is that if he could turn it off the others wouldn't make fun of him i know that's why he'd have to have like i don't know they can still make fun of me if you can turn it off right well yeah he could yeah he could be like a fucking dweeb or something and they could make fun of him for other reasons and then the red you know knows what happened to you my favorite part of that story is how um they all bullied him until they realized they could use him and then they all like him and that's meant to be a happy ending well it's a lesson right be useful you fuck yeah it showed that rudolf was actually kind of a cuck where he was like he was so desperate for affection of any kind that even if he's only loved for the usefulness he could bring to other people that's better than nothing for him and he'll settle for that what blitzen which one was wait which one was he well he's just one wait let me regular shit one on dancer on hey when he could fucking fly free well they can all fly so what else are you doing so none of them are shit i know not all reindeer can fly well yeah but these eight can include couldn't blitzen like that's only eight that's really important though couldn't blitzen control fire i'm pretty sure is that blitzen could blitzen control fire pretty pretty yeah i remember that it's in the name like a dragon he is blitzen well let me look up what which one blitzen is um try type fire controller might get you it uh blitzen fire control that must be it yeah what no here here's there's a there's a hero's wiki in blitzen is on the this one is blitzen he's that's kind of low quality no he's in now he's in the he's in the male animals spouses and oh those are tags um blitzen is the brother of dasher comet and cupid the husband of mitzi the father of rudolf oh so blitzen yeah blitzen okay so rudolf is the son of blitzen and it's good to control fire too sick wait wait his so is mitzi the so mitzi is wife of blitzen mother of rudolf the sister-in-law of comet cupid and dasher and the haunt by marriage of aro a supporting character in the 98 1998 film rudolf redo's reindeer the movie and a minor character in its sequel book rudolf saves the sprites she was voiced by debbie reynolds it doesn't even mention the fire okay the problem is that all these reindeer look the fucking same they know they just know like would you rather fuck mitzi or lola bunny what did that come from didn't lola bunny birth fairy dumb to a degree i'm sure that she's gonna win out yeah it'll only be a sentient this so this is blitz it's got a metal on his i guess he's got a metal and he's got a he's got a like a lightning bolt scar on his on his sweet harry potter uh look at that fucking edgelord yeah this is like your oc uh yeah oh yeah well my your oc has my reindeer has a fucking lightning scar well mine can control fire so fuck you disney stole oh wait yeah uh best case i can make off the top of my head mando's character wait a minute i read that one too my god you idiot but there are penises and that makes it good just like how mando has luke and that makes it good oh my god we're getting such different takes in chat about the game without expectations funny without expectations i found it to be okay i guess the game came out some three to five years too late and suffers heavily from rock star syndrome strict linear missions are boring in an open world six out of ten all right and this one says hello that hello i heard an opinion about which of saints reindeer are you i guess you could take a like a test or something to see which one you are or actually no it just it just names them all and it fucking describes them i'm gonna see which one i'm like i'm blitzing which one is gay the other is gay can you all all of the uh all of the reindeer y'all know the names off that should dig some down the blitz yeah that's the this jingle away you guys will see that someone just pinged uh in my discord they pinged me with uh porn of reindeer cool not real reindeer they anthropomorphic reindeer all right so if somebody was just standing next to reindeer filming them while they had sex in the tip of his penis clothes red i don't know if that's canon or not can you ask Santa he's not sized in this image but i feel like if he was it'd be more of a spot lie down below oh that's the thought that i had at the moment i gotta go back to which of the reindeer i am i heard an opinion this said that any game oh yeah i know strong very fast i mean this is just this is me written all over it his love for munching on carrot uh raising the grass outside yeah we're autumn yeah we're yeah there's a good ups until the grass munching so oh dancer is a female i had no idea i always assumed vixen was a female because if vixen was a guy that'd be a pretty gay name for a dude yeah yeah i heard an opinion that said any game that uses the crunch tactic shouldn't qualify for game of the year award thoughts wow and most games are going to be disqualified this is vixen's a guy how can you how who who the fuck has a kid who's a boy and names him vixen yeah god you just set him up to get bullied aren't you okay so this is a reindeer high school well i mean that's what happened to Rudolph isn't it yeah it says he here vixen is the flirt of the group when they aren't on the job flirting with someone usually cupid because she's the only one that takes him seriously so i guess cupid it's a male name i thought yeah that's weird so santa's fucked up wow oh oh my god no it's definitely finished with the level not gonna do it all over again no man i heard that trace like 17 times the last week it's always funny i missed one box and then i went back to like this stupid t-rex got me now i'm gonna do the whole fucking damn it's nice when i'm not the one suffering in the game for once you've made chat very happy yes they like it what he does no no um but yeah as for whether or not they should be able to get game of the year i don't know if we should keep those two things separated how good the game is and whether or not it was it was completed with crunch time i don't know get blitzened uh because of course does that does that take away from the sacrifice those people would have made if you don't let them get game of the year because of crunch time i wonder or yeah i think i think is the problem that it rewards developers for having used crunch time i want to make the fucking awards worth something again before we think about who's not getting it when were they worth anything now wait i still didn't hear you when were they worth anything i i don't know maybe when they were the spike vga when it was uh mountain dew the best independent game fueled by mountain dew fueled by bad yeah what free is yeah what free is that i don't like fuel oh shit how many nests asked white light the question yet hey white light oh boy what's better christmas or halloween uh it's christmas i'm sorry i know it's the normie answer but it's also true i agree with the first part correct this business said also christmas is greater than or equal to halloween interesting take it's just halloween is diabetes christmas is greening your bank but there's a turkey involved you got a turkey so sorry meat meat is basically candy yeah is it there yeah i think so can we debate this i would rather have delicious meats than candy i'm not a big candy guy but i just rather have a really nice juicy steak or some delicious bacon or some yummy turkey and some some you know sweet ham then just candy i love meat i can't get enough of it i've actually gathered that you like meat from our streams i really have i've got lots of references a big folder i go through chicken and bacon well chicken's more of a poultry but all right what you think cyberpunk would be better if after the tutorial kianu beats your character in the head with a golf club and then you play as kianu the rest of the way i genuinely would an improvement yes um love the e-fab crew and it's great to see white light on also high rags hello see no one ever a smaller i was just one time i was created and i super chatted hello rags to myself there now you understand white light are you happier now are you a more fulfilled person no i enjoyed not knowing more i know i just destroyed my story nice i'm i think i'm a a an enjoyable drunk well when mel makes his new highlights video we will see about that won't we oh yes yes that's all gold all of those are gold in gale's voice what still here handed out what who's gale uh this is gale court shuler i heard what's still here it's because mr slave knight gale how does how does slave knight gale sound vio you're really good at impressions what slave am i he's all sort of low and grumbly like what just still here i don't know um it says handed over that thing your chaos why handa is that a thing it's a it's the giant dad haha for my lady's giant dad also favorite weapon uh what like in general what is everyone's favorite weapon here we'll go from left to right fringy go favorite weapon oh wait doxels no just in general in general dude give me some more time someone else go all right tazum two green goblin knife that knife is supposed to let me let me get a picture of it it's so funny okay don't worry chat i got you bro okay you're ready for the coolest fucking knife you've ever seen in your entire life shoot it's such fucking awesome knife that anyone who holds this is automatically you had sex that's that's not a knife that looks like a bottle opener but it has alls cool bodies someone was told to draw a knife and they started drawing and they didn't stop they just kept going it's like a really dangerous fidget spinner it's a sharp metal object it looks like a fucking weird boomerang why would you do this it's so fucking bizarre because it takes you a moment to pass like what's actually even happening in what you're looking at it's the world's most shitty knife it really is and the best part is they've got like a little promotional image i guess of him holding it for wet a workshop i guess made the this knife i feel bad that that's the thing but uh look at the grip you have on that thing i'm not convinced man that's feeble you're gonna kill so many people best knife best weapon it's so they would probably allow him to take that onto an airplane yeah they'd be like what are you gonna do like it that's a cool novelty item oh is that one of your collectibles for your little superhero movie you're like shut up bob i'm the green goblin mom shut up so dangerous okay all right i did yeah you can take down to under the plane it's not gonna hurt anybody mel you're too in favorite weapon uh p90 all right rags favorite weapon oh it's phoenix shan's rolling boulder he's my favorite weapon you mel how do you not know what he's talking about the one that does the indiana joe's in episode six oh fuck okay yeah oh god yeah that's all right it's the oh favorite weapon i'm gonna say red queen red queen from the resident evil movies not not resident evil films uh nero's sword in the devil micro games oh that's yeah that's a cool weapon no it's good it's green goblin knife but okay uh white light white light what is your favorite weapon from everything ever um who aka 10 oh it extended capacity nice by everyone gtg bro oh we've worn him down we've managed to kill him that was the goal okay uh before you go at time guys do you want to tell it's okay i understand do you want to tell chat about who you are what you do and where to find you well i am the white light i uh i'm the second longest man on you actually i'm the first longest man on youtube if we just go by singular length no you're not um i got an 11 hour video on my second channel he is he is one of the longmans on youtube he makes long long content you see yeah my liquor you can find youtube.com slash long white light shocking me now uh i'll see you guys next time paul gunner white light clout house it's been fun why don't my emotes work anymore what's going on fringy did you break my emotes what wait they all start with an underscore now you yeah let me test out see if emotes work yeah the lotion works oh thanks at dry hands yeah they make you do an underscore gross there it is yeah catch the line goodbye sir thank you for joining us bye we will cater and would have been nice if you didn't eat so hard on cyberpunk though god so mean is my favorite weapon i'm figuring out if i want a meme or if i want to actually i think i think my favorite weapon is the the you know how that like kate kane had a bat axe or i what was it a bat bat size oh a bat size yeah that's my favorite um if i'm being serious it's probably like i really like katanas katanas are cool they are cool um oh no admittedly you know actually i would i would revise that i think uh i think like just standard night sword is really cool more so than katana yeah yeah my favorite weapon to outclass all of you a knee rockets what about the desert eagle shoots for everything don't shoot through knee rockets that's your opinion i asked a doubt actually no my favorite thing jacob told me it shoots for everything that includes knee rockets you're a liar my favorite thing is blackening black lightning you're all stunned by how cool that is black black lightning is a tv show blacklings on super races black lightning no that's no that's static shock you asshole no no no no there's actually no black lightning i can't believe that he calls static shock black lightning there is an actual black you remember he was in Christ on infinitisms i do yeah i actually do now that you mentioned it black lightning why is that the name of convention you're you're a black guy all right black something that could have been a coincidence that could have been a coincidence yeah how do you know you didn't get bitten by a radioactive black maybe his real name was black fart but he got a super dangerous they just call them black lightning no theo you got to do underscore mollus mug now okay that's what they did then i'll correct it to them and then i can enter again why have they done this they fucked it up i don't know everyone who wants to type of modes has to do colon underscore and then the thing like why you said colon i did colon yeah hey this is a semi colon all right yeah that's what i say colon like a colonoscopy yeah problemosopher you guys heard about my uh what my english teacher in high school right maybe i don't know what's the story here well back when i was in high school right my my english teacher he had to have a he had to have surgery and so now he has a semi colon that's my cue to get more to drink skyrim 2076 oh i think that's the way of saying the game's not very good west virginia shanadore rivers boohoo my game crashed slash the end cry more qq i think that's from the guy who's annoyed at us for complaining about i hope you're joking i mean i'd be upset that my game crashed in fact i have been upset before i mean fuck it we've had loads of hot takes in a row why not add to it i don't think it's good if he game crashes there i mean i'm gonna make a fucking video on this eventually because everyone's gonna be pissed at me i don't care i just don't think crashes are like they're not that fun i get they are kind of fun because they're exciting you don't know what's gonna happen next but somebody was whistling the batwoman theme is that a problem yeah that only improves whatever the scenario currently is all right it's a perfect such a terrible thing oh the guy who made that was just totally in our chat right now like oh no fringy you're my favorite don't well i'm sorry buddy but somebody had to tell you the truth don't get mad at me for dropping them through the bombs uh i disagree i played for about 10 hour and i would give eight out of 10 now i have played on a low-end machine and it worked well the story is engaging and i have one more scene feeling all the time well that's great i gave it a six out of three but i've enjoyed it a lot what do you guys think of the take that spider versus woke what why would you why oh we'll speak together our black people in it yeah it's ours i guess there any gay people in it my i'm sure they are statistically i mean yeah but does the film point those people out i hope not hey look at the gay over there no game that's all for my screen i think i might have missed i think i might have missed some crates whoa just a couple of webs told you we love each other well dude if i missed a crate i've got blown up it was really rude um yeah no i i would assume that calling it woke would be what we call a false positive based on probably very weak references yeah uh dr octopus's race swapped i think you mean gender swaps that female race that female was grace swapped into a man my god uh anybody watching the final attack on titan season no no that was for you's response to that question that is very curious i don't think he likes that i can i can't tell by his annoyed that people are watching it i guess yeah oh my god no so pissed the people are actually watching furniture guys stop telling us that you're watching the show it makes for you very upset uh pio you're the only person that would answer that question probably so attack on titan and i don't particularly care for rip arena sorry attack on titan fans we got no one here to answer the question uh just like but worse the game rags you nailed it yeah thanks i feel like it's an app description because whenever i play that game i can't help but feel like oh this is like this other game but it's the worst version of it and oh this is like that other game but uh it's not as good and i oh i feel like i'm playing like a spin-off of this other game but isn't as good at more despite of this his art style is an absolute eyesore how do you defend that um no it's not it's not it's very colorful and bright and vibrant and it flows well i think it's very pleasant on the ice despite how busy and uh busy it is and how much is referring to the fact that it's animated in twos instead of ones uh where was that me what do you mean so sorry two when you animate on ones it means that every one frame is one new like animation so one new image um so like but if you're doing it on twos it means that so so basically instead of 24 frames a second it's kind of like 12 frames a second um of animation that's what the that's what it does so um it's it's a unique look a lot of a lot of stuff does it like a lot of anime does it when they're doing like crazy animation sequence because he has to do these on ones like god damn you really you disagree with what i like i would trouble there yeah i like one thing but not another and i get told i disagree but well clearly they simply mean that they have the reverse take so i thought the shooting and mealy felt was pretty stiff okay also thank you more for saying that uncomfortably strong borderlands vibes from cyberpunk yeah they maybe feel like it felt a bit like off-brand cyberpunk uh borderlands um but they also kind of need to i don't know do the thing everyone's expecting which was to possibly provide us something new rather than oh i recognize this but they didn't remember i'm being honest again i wasn't expecting any such thing from cdpr i don't think they're really in the business of something new i want to say it quickly just say sudpa sudpa no i could put good good hello matt come on man he's compromising here i don't even have two hours in the game because it runs like shit on my 1070 and because of my disappointment i went to pick up the witcher games uh i have wild hunt but i haven't played it should i play one or two first or both one or two i haven't played one i played two i liked it a lot it's tough but it's really really great and i really like it i don't understand one is quite clunky it is some prime jank euro jank exactly jank euro jank welcome to the euro jank podcast i will be your host hans hans janka we will be discussing today's euro jank hans hello whichever uh cyberpunk 2077 shows me exactly why i don't pre-order games yeah i mean just don't you'll be fine unless the circumstances like you're reviewing it of course uh or well in that case you're probably yeah i mean you could be reviewing it you don't get like a review copy in which case you know mm-hmm trying to think what are the circumstances would you say pre-ordering is fine um if you have maybe really crappy internet and you want to pre-load it maybe in the case of collectors editions with limited runs of physical stuff maybe but i don't know one of the things is well worth like is it worth putting these out as like caveats rather than just being like hey if everybody just doesn't it'll be better yeah yeah it's not normally i just don't do it at all i think the only one i would do it with so far just from personal experience is probably from software i didn't have any problems personally but they still have bugging shit in the beginning so it's you lose all you always lose basically i feel like you always lose consoles like god damn i can't think of anything like this band of ideas pre-ordering a video game console pre-ordering cancer what do you get what do you do that cancer no i mean like what do they offer you as a bonus if you pre-order cancer early cancer they just you can't give your cancer to somebody else is chemotherapy dlc or is it just not included oh it's definitely it's it's but those are microtransactions oh you gotta pay a whole bunch that sucks for Gotham Knights all of the open world territories will be the same as your character's level the devs want you to go anywhere when you want okay i mean these are all the it's not necessarily bad that there are parts of the world that you are not ready to go to level wise it's just about sort of telegraphing that clearly i think it's purely arbitrary and there's no reason to do it it's just saying yeah you just can't go here yet especially with how arbitrary it seems to be like if ever there was a place should be level gated i think it should be pacifica just based on the description you get a bit from the game like this is this is the bad part of town the police don't come here it's that bad it's weird right because in like a fantasy type game if there's just you know the territory of the trolls yeah and you go there and it's like oh my god i hit it with my sword and it did nothing i run away now um is a bit different from i hit this guy with a bullet in the back of his head and he died but this guy took one out of 1000 damage it's like that's weird they look exactly the same but okay and also like i'm only 10 blocks away from my home yeah that's the thing it's not even like radially further away from your like starting location you get the harder enemies will get it's weird and patchy like in specific locations things get randomly more difficult and then easier like just like a personal story like yeah because it is based on where the story takes you but that doesn't account for the fact that i'm going to explore which of course you knew i was going to maybe i don't want to follow the story first off maybe i just want to go around and do stuff her exclamation marks all over the map and you think i'm not going to just run off from like when the story takes me to a new place i'm not just going to run off and start going and doing them really no and again the game knows what your numbers are so just have the enemies be based on that whether they're tougher or about the same level like you know the dam but you know the dps that my character does you know what my character's armor is you can literally on the fly uh have the enemy stats be at a level where it's you know it's close to me and the difficulty is how higher or lower they are to you seems like a fairly natural thing to be able to tune based on location and you know type of enemy how embarrassing rags choosing to be blinded by hate oh no the critique support i didn't choose the hate life the hate life chose me damn what does it look like when it selects you is it a giant ball of hate and it just grabs you and you're like oh i don't know it's all a blur get on it draw that draw rags being selected by the hate ball selected by the hate ball here at five minutes we'll have like a a masterpiece really shitty paint thing draw a circle with hate in a stick hand that a really bad doge like and then i go around they say where are you from i say i come from the balls and it'll be accurate there's a uh a cryptocurrency that's just called doge coin why why not it's funny because it's funny it's the kind of thing i would buy just because it's a funny name and that's how they tricked you this game was developed by women and it shows oh my god oh no uh you see you can make a pistol that no one can sorry you see you can make a pistol that can one shot everything is that a thing yes it does i'm on crafting nonsense someone watched spiffing bread video i guess hey all right he he broke the game with like the the skill tree and he was like a common pistol and they're like 7 000 damage or something sweet after after the tutorial i really like cyberpunk after 60 hours not saying you need to play that much i'm understanding all your points and they are fair this is the thing i actually do think that if uh if you sort of roll the dice a little with this game you could probably get a really good experience yeah i'm enjoying an experience past finish it my my amount of enjoyment with it improved significantly past like 10 15 hours just might be increasing bugs i mean i would say that i'm enjoying it more now than i was like five hours ago it's it's funny because it reminds me of arkham knife was it that had like this dodgy launch as well where most people couldn't play it in the beginning yeah it was bad yeah and i was i was a lucky one and i could play it fine somehow just reminds me it's like almost the exact same thing inventory is not always i come on chat well that's the thing i i honestly figured it was tab and when tab was something else i was like lost for a moment i was like wait wait what is what is mine and it wasn't quite it wasn't inventory wasn't necessarily the the specific word i was just thinking i was just thinking of the screen in which i see my stuff because i don't know if it had like a different name for the game or whatever yeah like a character panel or a hero panel or a like a cargo or a i don't know pockets sir just to catch all sort of crafting all in one item management pain for me personally i always go for i first i said to go to i as well yeah i think that's fine as well as going to left click for shooting and right click for yeah i mean it's not stupid as you can't rebind it at all yeah yeah that's that's all the point was and you can't rebind it yeah i don't mind it's stupid like i was saying there's no tool tip for it that i saw i might be wrong on that but there was also no key binding let me remind some people that is there's people out there that haven't played a game before yeah it's their fault the way you or i will or uh change from console to pc i think the the whole you expect a person to just press some buttons and if you if they can press escape right which is like you get the menu then you can go oh click options oh and then key bindings and then they have access to everything as long as you're able to do that then you you have like everything but they couldn't just throw it in there they couldn't do it i hate having to because you use the inventory so much i hate having to look down to my keyboard to press i so every time i want to go into the character screen or the the fucking inventory like fuck that it's dumb dumb dumb without a b just dumb oh no i missed did i miss it i missed it right somewhere i missed it right i just absolutely love the random throw in it's like oh i can't take it i mean you're this one level and then i nearly finished it but i missed one crate now i'm gonna do it all over again i cut to keep all frango frango doesn't deserve this uh you can't be upset about petty gripes you need to be upset about the unpopular representation of trans people gosh guys be real gamers tm sarcasm by the way uh yeah i've heard about that the game's gotten lots of criticism for um it's portrayal of trans people i i don't know i'm just convinced you can't portray a trans person correctly they're gonna shit on you for anything that you do so you just don't even fucking try um that's ui of all games dead space is way up there yeah i like dead spaces you are a lot dead space has yeah it does have a very good ui especially if you're biogetic oh this one yeah yeah yeah yeah i just realized i didn't miss a crate by the way so i restarted the level for no reason no i miss counted i uh you fool i saw somebody say you're bad at this game it's like you do realize that trying to beat this game without dying on every level and getting all of the crates is not easy right i'm waiting for the old sake when you're bad ml elite mlg hardcore gamer bro or something look at me i'm so good at crash bandicoot four specifically let's chat beat him up say get good do it a little trigger don't worry i'm calm now i'm zen all right all right and i'm not lying at all i i'm glad i didn't go gun slash blades i use quick hacks and legendary mono wire shame they didn't get those elements right i mean the shooting in blades i'm guessing to say that the so shame they didn't get yeah maybe i guess because they're glad they didn't do the thing they have apparently gotten wrong i don't know if that's in reference to us talking about the uh we said the melee was overpowered didn't we the melee's over the melee is really strong but it's also shit i hate how it controls did they think that a lot of people were really gonna use like dodging and blocking and countering like i've never had to use that ever so far like why would you and you just shoot them they did help oh my god someone said do better you amphibian damn that's sorry about the thing you shouldn't be subject to such hate band a word ju he's talking about fuck you can't say he's fucking school he's fucking fat ass i'm a writer and i'm thinking of creating a writing workshop for young people any particular topics i should cover um oh there's just a couple thousand i guess yeah well go on then yeah that's that's what those questions that there's so many answers that could be so long i don't even know how to approach that um obviously it's a long man bed maybe try and find some kind of aggregate study of what the most commonly asked questions about writing is i don't know what they would be exactly to be honest with you how do i write a character maybe that's number one i mean i feel like if you're there though that can get hard and fast right yep everybody has their rules they're meant to be active not passive according to nobody but i have to be they have to be cool give them a cape they have to change that's that's necessary by the end they don't wear the cape that would be changed that's right they they wear the cape and then they don't wear the cable right no capes um any particular topics i should cover uh oh wait yeah that was the same thing um also i'd like to use your star wars reviews as recommended viewing i mean yeah if you want it it's very nice of you yeah i mean this bits and bobs would might be helpful in there uh hey massives i really haven't been able to uh efap since 100 covid lock and us election has me wired but last week i got 2077 to try and escape reality fuck my life hey man 2077 and just a constant flow of efapping because from 100 to 115 that's probably a lot of hours if you wanted to uh you know jump into plenty of great games to lose yourself in play dave sex oh um i just noticed somebody said what are your thoughts on passive characters exactly so my thought is basically that any rule that says anything other than make sure that your character's motivations make sense is some sort of like there are there are stories in which there are good passive characters there's no getting around that and if that's the case then maybe it's not an important rule at all you know yeah the uh it's the the simple conversation of always do x but what about when x is y oh yeah that too well but wait you said always do x like yeah rule of thumb like well but yeah exactly it's not helpful it's not helpful i think that's a problem with a lot of writing advice is it doesn't like it doesn't cut to the fundamental like you know learning lessons um at least i don't think so it's like there are just certain fundamental things and the rest of it is just complicating it uh too much anything basically anything can work as long as it makes sense that's kind of my stance on writing anything can work active passive likable unlikable all of this can work it just it depends that's it what about a story where the main character is psychotic and their motivations don't make sense well yeah i guess that could work if it makes sense with what that would be let's just say that would be the making sense that would be the making sense part their motivations don't make sense because they can't make sense of things much in the same way if you have multiple personalities you can't say like their motivations don't make sense sometimes they think this and sometimes you think this like well it's multiple personalities i guess that's because when you think about when people say like passive is bad they'll be like passive is bad because people want a story where characters make decisions it's like that's not an explanation that's a preference that's not a rule a rule can't just be a preference like it's not my preference that the story makes sense it's a requirement because if it doesn't make sense then i can't understand anything that's happening if the fundamental thing is that stories are supposed to make sense because um a equals b a causes b which causes c i'm gonna pause crash to talk about you know if a sequence of if a story is a therefore b therefore c therefore d it's the therefore that's the important part um and there's not much therefore in this character doesn't like making decisions or this character is guided by the outside events because fun fact about life you're not really that much of an agent in your life a lot of what happens to you was guided by your environment and i don't see why the same wouldn't be true of stories anyway i mean that that's kind of beside the point though it's just fundamentally are there good stories with passive characters yeah so maybe this is a shit rule that you shouldn't pay much attention to and any rule where you can be like hey is this required no it's like well it's it's just a recommendation at that point and i think you should treat it that way i don't think you should look at like a story that you have where your character is passive or your character is static and doesn't change or where your character is unlikable you know by design or whatever or if your plot progresses this way and there are examples of that working if there are examples about working there's no reason yours can't work either um rags makes valid criticism chat i hate you wow rags stop making them hate you the double tap alt left click is probably something to do with consoles on xbox it's double tap the y button could be i don't know it just doesn't seem to register like half the time i try it and it's funny and it's not even an excuse i think metal offering i can't remember which one of you mentioned that's how you do it i hadn't even realized that when i was playing it in a call with you and then i did the double tap and it didn't nothing happened i was like hmm like i wonder if they they're actually right about this then i did it again and it did work and i was like okay example of double tap the button weapons away bringing up and sewing your weapon yeah uh examples of good passive characters i'm at the moment hold on help me out here gimley son of groin a passive character would be the protagonist in sicario that's true yeah sicario is fucking great so come at me um pat there are a lot of passive characters in video games who just do what they're told um i wonder if somebody would say like if i said master chief is passive they'd be like well no he takes action it's like yes but he's always told to do it it's rare that master chief makes a decision on his own it's usually cortana or lord hood or um or keys who tells him to do something and he just does it that doesn't make him a bad character and just like he's a static character and that doesn't make him a bad character either there were characters who don't have to change or don't need to change or if they're past or if their path in the story is uh that they don't learn anything at the end for instance um well they've already had enough development in their life and they've gotten to a point where they're you know it's like not every story involves someone going on some arc or learning some important moral or life lesson that they change and develop with in fact most times people are just kind of themselves as they go through things and they don't really change much well i mean there's there's the fact that like what if your character was i mean i said this in my video what if your character was right all along what if the whole point is that they didn't learn their lesson they're doomed to repeat the same mistakes again that's on a floor it's not like a floor halo four exists yeah but halo four contradicts what comes before so halo four is bad my dude there's a story as well well someone said jack sparrow in the first pirates movie he makes a couple of strong like uh main story sort of pushing decisions in that movie um i'll agree he's a little bit passive he's essentially like bouncing between someone else's storyline being a well turner and babosa but uh jack still makes some some important decisions that that do them some things you know um so speaking of passive characters and active characters i'm gonna make the decision that i need to drop out because i am thrashed i uh i was up i was up all night playing this cyberpunk game and working and just stuff and i need to i just need to sleep absolutely yeah my good man i'm gonna have to just leave yeah well i'll catch you on the flip side and if any are directed at you i will save them for the probably the opening of the next one or whatever we end up oh yeah please do and uh i will cover them next time i see them but uh yeah i gotta go and i just gotta rest i've been busy busy busy doggo so yeah i'll catch everyone later and um hope y'all have a fun time reading these and i'll get to the ones for me uh later on so goodbye everybody all right now the more fight time somebody asked me to explain why halo for story is uh bad so it's massively inconsistent with what i mean in many ways not only from a well-built perspective but from a character perspective there is no getting around the fact that master chief is a totally different person he never he he's so rarely talks in halo one through three and the second he wakes up in halo four he's already talking constantly there's no getting around that that is a contradiction he is not a talkative person uh and that's and that's ignoring the fact that halo four establishes that chief was basically like built by the the forerunners to be like like he's basically robot jesus um when when before i mean it's basically they were trying to canonize like cortana says oh chief's luck it's like no you see the forerunners like they designed you that way it's like how is that not such a cop out why would you do that why would you make like oh chief's lucky now you see that there's an explanation for that it's like we didn't need one he's just a lucky dude that's it um i need to replay those games but i know i know that yeah there's a lot of problems with uh with those games story wise a lot of people um i think ignore because it's really easy to see the things that they do well like cortana but yeah boop boop boop have any of you guys happen to look at your shadow in gameplay as you're performing actions and have a weapon out it's uh not good only enough um i played cyberpunk for about two hours before we came on today or i think it was one hour actually it was um i was in a room and i was like i was in a call with rags and uh as we were talking i was just like starting to share some screenshots with him of just like the shadows completely bugging out like they were crossing people and just just coming on and off all the time like uh hardcore flickering and it's just like yeah i haven't even really looked to see if the shadows are working um in general but i'm assuming that's probably whenever a game has graphical glitches that have been reported by everybody shadows are going to be one of the things to like uh-oh how the shadows doing are they safe are they okay look if your character's shadow resembles your character man yikes these shadows are overrated okay all right green shout out the hedgehog is overrated oh the cop system is borked lol i wanted to try out something so i pissed off cops near my apartment went in and a cop had teleported inside and shot me dead 11 out of 10 would we woo again um that's just it's a feature and you're not understanding it so i don't want to tell you i played cyberpunk for three and a half hours after which i reached a bug that crashed my own game every time i try to proceed with the story making progress impossible steam was nice and gave me my money back i mean honestly to me that's the system working as intended that's good uh well yeah not the game working intended but yeah but what are you gonna do i guess and this is the thing that cd project red are gonna have to claw back um i guess purchases because yeah it's not preferable for a lot of people i hate being forced to use the f key to interact when i prefer using the e key uh can we show our big clips it's hilarious i got one to show no the clips i was sent were just from uh death's bullshit if um but that would be fun like everyone send your clips in and we will showcase like a bunch of shit from cyberpunk i'm sure there's people doing that i do content uh molla rags please stream the game i want to see how broken the game is and i think it'd be really fun for everybody also high rags i'll save that one for him my answer would be i don't actually think it's possible for me to stream that game it doesn't run well enough without streaming it so yeah that was one of the first things that i thought of it's like if i want to play it i'm gonna stream it and i don't think my pc is gonna make it do you mind if we skip ahead and read a super chat that's just come through right now very well bring you go ahead uh this is that you're working five bucks uh the contradiction is that he didn't talk before and now that cortana is basically near death he talks more now he talks more before he knows that she's near death so i'm sorry oh springy with the slam dunk will zack ilbert recover the one who hates theo as well zack zack they're all around you mission survive i'm begging the hate you can't play smash bros why not that's illegal illegal you illegal us oh what i got i got reset where was i like sound acceptable there we go uh i hate oh yeah being forced to use the f-key rather than the e-key by the way that is really annoying um like i hate to say but it's just like isn't it a basic thing that i can rebind that but it's like no you know people rebind their keys man i consider it racist yeah cyberpunk 2077 is good the buggy mess but i still love it also high rags um would you guys call it good uh i know yeah i need to play yeah yeah uh i think it sits right below me being able to say that with honesty and confidence it's just below good i go back and forth from okay to pretty good i i don't know i'm sitting more towards okay at the moment well i think i'm done with crash for now oh no you'd play more cyberpunk don't look at the end same i'm don't look at the end same trilogy right now because you're playing crash i just um i just keep dying on this one little platform it's um it's a bit janky and i i think i can't take it anymore like i i think i need i think i'm getting worse as i keep trying to uh to re-attempt this level so i'm gonna a while i'm gonna stop now and uh just chill out excellent you should chill out with city project reds uh cyberpunk 77 you'd enjoy it i think you can send us screenshots of funny things you see yeah well i'm sure there won't be an end to that uh would the cyberpunk 2077 still be terrible after all the bugs are fixed is this game salvageable i rags i don't think the game is terrible to begin with so i think salvageable yeah i think that uh given time it could be pretty awesome i would say yeah it will take time though because man the game is a mess in terms of like are you woeing at mel so i just started to crash inside trilogy and it opened a window that goes across two of my screens neat but only the upper half of the window so if i would have two more screens below my two screens i would see the whole picture unlock falco you coward how do i do that i do unlock falco in in smash bring it you'd know this i can't you can't see help um metal is died i'm so sorry everyone uh this is a crash game did a weirdo uh and same trilogy yo white light did you like a c valhalla yes or no does anyone know if you like that or not the alarms i have no idea i'm afraid though i hope he did wait was valhalla liked a chargers crew valhalla yeah was it did people think it was good uh i think it was really mixed some people like it some people think it sucks brick and morty bad especially season four no uh no i'm not sure which is the worst season if i was to pick one it could be for the probably four yeah even though i can it has the the train episode is fantastic and it has a prestige episode yeah uh also this isn't aimed at the guys in e-fap but you can't complain about the buggy launch but also complain about the delays and pressure the devs to release sooner saw a lot of that recently so um no you can't complain about the bugs if you wanted them to release sooner if someone promises to release a thing by a time this is why you shouldn't promise to release videos even guys just now let's do it um if you promise to release something at a certain time and then it releases and it's buggy and they say i needed more time and you forced me to release it at this time because you could play it's like this seems unfair but almost just weird as hell that you're going this direction with it uh i would prefer that you just say we're working on it until it comes out but um the hype generator that is our industries means that you need to like release a trailer and then next year release another trailer the next year release a really big trailer and then release it and if you can't like do that then you're out or something i don't know i don't know i just feel like if if it were possible without like some kind of legal repercussion for them to just say look you're gonna have to be honest with you guys it ain't ready it's just not ready and we don't want to release it when it's not ready i know that they would get increasingly level increasing levels of crazy people sending messages to their family members or whatever the fuck people do these days um but i mean they're wrong for doing that those people i mean yeah so yeah that's my commentary on it young link no i don't feel safe in this map not buying into the hype about how revolutionary this game was gonna be allowed me to enjoy the game a lot more the bugs i've experienced haven't ruined my experience but still quite a sorry state yeah i think that's kind of the overall sentiment of what we've said i would say to a degree if you were expecting something revolutionary from cd cd prio grad uh you weren't paying attention i guess i wasn't paying attention i was expecting something that was good a surprise me that's it's not how they operate wow did it here face themselves they don't do revolutionary maybe they should that might be a controversial take i think that would be nice oh is it the they don't do anything revolution wow well don't people really like the witcher three people adore that game and uh i almost said they're right too but i also dislike that game well i don't dislike it i i'm much more down on it than most people uh partially because it doesn't do anything particularly spectacular other than be narratively good but it's a video game so hmm yeah scary yeah uh do do me to an ui on console is great you can completely customize your controls which greatly improve my personal experience genuinely if you make that a thing for your pc game you're doing things right right people like it when you do that why is there no sound options in this game i'm sorry creepy announced sorry i just didn't do it in time it's my bad uh completely unrelated but i've been up for two days and can't sleep thank you massive for keeping me entertained instead of bored merry crumbomas merry crumbomas man imagine how gay it is to be luke and not link getting beaten up by a younger brother clone imagine you luke and you ate titty milk i'm passing without me titties take my magic wand bitch no that's rape stop that rape one more rape i got a few glitches on pc but what made a few sessions insufferable to play was the audio skipping had to restart my pc some had to change audio settings to lower frequency also it looks grainy as fuck enjoy the roulette of various issues i know it's gonna say it's such a weird everybody's got a different review of this game uh but like they're all centered around the the circle of things aren't quite what they should be obsidian made new vegas in under two years and it's one of the best rpgs of the decade and it took cg product rad eight years to make fallout for cyberpunk edition oof yeah but don't act like don't act like new vegas isn't a buggy mess as well yeah isn't it known for that yes it's a buggy fucking mess so but it has good tisms in it right yes sounds like another game i could think of maybe i saw what you did there you related it i saw that two you can see right through you i'm like zack gilbert i know it's you're not allowed to do that and hit eight the popular thing but yeah things wow that's the only reason theos here by the way it's just tell everybody stop being contrarians that's why we wrote them on the truth i'm really trying when it comes to like most of my i think that i ever wanted to really at least on video games oh jeez it's really fucked up when the ai eats you as the ocean then fucking poops you out on the edge of the map you're like oh whoa you're cheating like you can't do that this is what a human does to another human man the inside trilogy looks really fucking good in your opinion fine fuck you then haha too true i guess so good i got a few glitches on pc oh wait that yeah um lol there was a line during a mission when you need to get into the black web what's the black web again i mean i know but you're a mic that should know about that kind of like the dark web yeah i think rags touched on that right like you would getting a lot of information uh that seems like stuff you should just know but uh that's like that's just a challenge of writing in anything how do you get to the game to the game's credit uh with um me playing as street kid there has been a lot of instances of things like that where my character did know about things that they should know about as opposed to me having to ask for exposition about some group in the city uh my character just go ah it's that group they don't know the blah blah talking to the other person what do they have to do with this kind of thing so maybe that comes with not playing the clearly intended experience but you know yeah i um i just i don't consider that a huge criticism because this is a lot of stuff that has trouble dealing with it and fuck just the whole concept of like oh we're gonna have to bring in the the thebes um should we just have a character who just doesn't know what the thebes are and you're like yeah i guess they're like what's the what's the root it's a radiation system designed for spiders forms no one's questioning that that's good i guess you all know about the phoenix it's a kind of a radiation systems created by cyber dine you know cyber dine and skynet are both cool names just saying legion is not a cool name for your evil ai okay or what's legion um or flungers what else are cool names for things agamemnon that's a cool name galathar galathar skin eater that is definitely cool one off a buffy villain that gets referenced in a single episode is like a joke and then never actually comes up again what galathar yeah galathar the skin eater yeah when they do gags like they're looking at my giles or something and you're like please don't put the spell casters next to the galathar lore book or something they made halo two in 10 months what the hell went wrong with the devs this game looks like a mess okay to a degree right i understand those kinds of comparisons but these are very different projects okay halo two was not made in 10 months it took three years they just screwed up while they were developing it and then they had to like frantically finish that game so really if anything halo two was quite comparable like the only difference being that halo two is like really good when it came out but to be fair to them 10 months making an xbox game is probably a lot more productive than 10 months making a 2020 pc game 10 months is not a lot of time nowadays live and they have the whole world watching them too dude imagine being on that team and just more and more bugs are found every day you guys be like hey guys i added i added the biker jacket and now the entire prologue doesn't work and honestly if there was like a little documentary of that of their everyday struggles and stuff i think people would actually just back the fuck off just all these kinds of things because it seems like that game was a nightmare to fucking code but just from playing it it feels that way but uh you know it's it's it's all so very complicated to understand exactly who's to blame and by how much uh hopefully because cd project red are interested in having good faith from their audience the game will be in a really great position even in just a couple months from now i don't know we can help right people do a good being the game up yeah i'm it was made in 10 months bring it okay so i need to clarify on halo two halo two was announced in 2002 they were in pre-production um maybe the core development was 10 months that sounds about right but like i didn't know that that's how we considered developments for work like pre-production isn't part of that development time is that maybe maybe that's like a different industry thing that pre-production doesn't count but um i would say that it does count so it was made in more than 10 months yeah i mean i wouldn't know what would wikipedia say well no i just know this because i watched the uh the halo two like behind the scenes documentary and they were talking about how they were developing it from and they built a demo for e3 and they came back and they were going to be working on that game to get it done but the demo was not anything close to what they could actually achieve on xbox and because of that at some point you know some months later they realized oh shit we can't like make this game so we have to basically cut a bunch of content just to make sure that we can finish this game by the end of 2004 and you know it's it's crazy because you look at that game they crunched for like a year they like they were talking about how they're working 80 hour days like 120 hour you know where they wouldn't leave the office at all for like three days and it was the same for um melee which you're playing right now sakurai made a lot of sacrifices to make this game good yeah and i mean he made a really good game sorry this is one of those legacy games i uh i adore i adore melee okay like everyone in the smash community just loves this game forever you wonder if that's because it's the most mechanically consistent or if it's because it just came out of the right time um i think uh yeah i think it's both it's a really well designed game but it also was like oh this is what super smash brothers can be it was that kind of moment well this game was epic as fuck like all the unlockables all the characters all the the missions and stuff the first game glitches that manages to be really mechanically deep yeah exactly and the first game was fun but it was definitely more of an experiment yeah it was like having to be like hey what can we do with this even though i think there are some people out there who um i think that one's the best one right the original man that must be few and far between i i'm sure i've seen him out there maybe an asshole hand trying to kill me i'm like a little kid whoa language language oh no no no no no oh fringy you really have no idea what you're talking about they realized before e3 that it would never run an xbox but they had to finish the e3 then after e3 they scrapped everything isn't that exactly what i said and also that's that is eat you realize e3 is in june and that game came out in november of 2004 right that's more than 10 months but like i'm almost picking fights for people just like hey listen here all right yeah look listen it's a city full of tranks lobos and zippeds yeah i think that's when we were talking about some of the language they use whatever i know you guys aren't sports fans but are there any sports related movies you guys like or would call objectively good uh sport related movies there's probably a whole bunch that i'm just not able to remember off top mad i can't tell you i like meme machine uh that's football i'm full completely on this sport movies the mighty ducks how about that i remember that one wait there's 40 for our account i guess rocky counts yeah dodgeball oh dodgeballs awesome dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball it's true though that means likely if you can dodge that you can dodge the other yeah well if you can dodge a car you can dodge a dodgeball i've listened to the dev commentary this is why i'm finding this insane i've listened to all this behind the seed stuff and you're telling me that i'm wrong like i'm very confused fringy versus chat the movie out now starring rags you're like wait what who's he playing fringy uh v kind of sounds like discount adam jensen what um i well i don't know what adam jensen sounds like so adam jensen is like i never asked for this he's like a low gruff grizzly voice yeah while v is why don't i put what v is like more high pitch maybe no it's a ladder it's the ladder letter that he's more high pitch man his name is a letter it would be it's just not that letting me have my little joke i'm positively confused by your perception i because you're made i'll beat you up do it and film it put it on the youtube uh super chat because i want y'all to see this the minute the game went gold it was printed it's done if you don't update it that's the complete game well they're gonna update it though yeah wait is the point there that we should be treating this as the game because that's just the truth and i'd be like yeah well if anyone reviews this game as is uh that's fine with me and that review will always be useful but if the game gets updated like a million times over by the time someone sees that in three years from now whatever i hope they understand that when they watch the video it's not how the game currently says this goes for no man's sky of course which is what from what i've heard a very good game right now remember when it came out though blah blah i like some of the slang like eddies i think eddies is fine i just find some of the other ones cringe i think it's because of the fact that they're real things that people say that i find cringe right now and that not many people say it right now but they're saying like yeah in the future of the cyberpunk world they say it a lot it's like instead of like just completely new shit yeah leave eddie alone well some of them are lame though like like in viro like you you've seen the in viro it's like is it that much harder to just say ement i'm trying to think like whatever the context of the sentence it's probably easier to just say a different word entirely check in viro like the area i don't know some of it's weird and like i said if i play the game more i might be able to articulate better what i'm i'm feeling with it so i'm i'm happy to say it's just a pet peeve that i'm not even sure of what the problem is it doesn't make you feel it makes me feel all the feelings all of them even the hungry i'm very hungry i'm actually hungry but we got to have a chance to read now i actually oh sorry um i'm just saying like i need to depart now unfortunately racism you mean like dead to come to oh no no nothing nothing that serious thank goodness um okay bye friend oh yeah see you guys am i meant to do the pitch i mean you can if you want to but at this point you're one of the people that's always here so i it's really up to you uh i think anybody who's listening to this and hasn't already subscribed when they wanted to it would be one of those weirdmans but if you want to account for the weirdmans go right ahead and also well i guess the only thing is crash bandicoot more video eventually when i beat the game and then i can actually start working on it you hear that you're best it's he's making a video that's not even the type that he's been making so far is this gonna be like how you're gonna format it out of curiosity uh this is gonna be like you know big ol big ol like you know critique video you know that you know the kind like uh i'm gonna i'm gonna probably try and figure out what format would be in terms of like integrating the character into it i'm sure yeah you know the experiments are trying to figure it out um but yeah i i think i'm i'm thinking this will be a good video whenever it's done whatever whatever that is but uh yeah it's been fun fellas oh talk to you all later good bye later bro look who you did chat look what you did you couldn't keep your heart takes to yourself and now fringy left outrageous bastards jigglypuff's already dead jesus god bowser just fucks jigglypuff up it's like he just wants to you um kume ship ended with fringy now molar is my best kume oh it's weird but okay yesterday cypyp oh cyberpunk blue screamed two times after downloading the latest nvidia drives today it's randomly freezing for a couple of seconds now completely crashed had a restart pc it says retod pc uh said it has to repair by c drive first oof well maybe it is actually your pc and not the game or maybe the game just did a big bloom pool i hope it's i guess i hope it's neither of them flyer so many problems getting reported directly to this strewnheim i get it i'm assist edmund i'm not gonna fix your shit go away oh wow yeah i said it i fucking said it okay it's fucking better than you a fucking better than you five dollars usually you guys see gog unlist devotion from his store we did mention that big shame big sad yeah i'm gonna look china money big money so really what is it but the gamer sent the messages fuck the gamers whoa i wouldn't recommend that you might get a disease the gamer disease oh yeah i remember in this game there if you fight the dks on this decayed map and you just run around enough they'll eventually kill themselves and i think it was an allegory does sound like a racism but i agree but they're not doing it so i guess i'll have to find i think it's when you fight the big one maybe the small ones that oh no there goes another one oh no uh oh ouch jesus i probably should have tried to escape that faith but i found it too amusing not to all right dude link is so fucking op in these games even though i just died twice in a row trust me guys sources a dude to trust me um i was played samus and millie yeah that's my name i don't play link but links pretty good yeah isn't it fucked up that oh i killed myself again nice three deaths on the map that i established this is easy melton trown classic jinx classic hi jinx oh it's jinx hi your chat is dumb if they don't like bly mana seems the best horror i've seen in a long time mandalorian sucks christmas best cd project red overrated um you know i think i think they're right about bly that's what i think mmm bly mana pretty damn good just saying uh you should have invited louis levi i think it's pronounced he knew months ago this game would end like it did uh i think well i think everybody was already consumed right that was like the whole meme like will cd project red be able to stand up to their uh what everybody wants from the game at this point i think the sentiment was no like they never were gonna anyway but no we were hoping they would do a better than what they did no i didn't expect more i died it was horrible i'm so sorry fringy you didn't get that crazy yeah i mean i did i'm so used to complaints coming from fringy about games that i i don't even see the difference more well i'm playing crash so fitting right in you know the fast run from link is pretty shit guys i'm gonna say it links not very good for this portion of the uh of the game they're they're they're at least no link linkist move fast to link you suck wow could you say socks it's like super racism it's too super racism no super racism file how does he seven remake was another game that was released and actually worked are we just gonna start naming all the games that were released and worked worked on release no way pokeman pokeman two the pokemaning pokeman reloaded play god of war 2018 that's a really good game wow have you completed that yet no i'm i'm taking my gran old time with it i'll probably go for all the valkyries uh in my next dream they're taking your granny's time i'll take my no she doesn't have that much time left i think oh no that's so mean fuck you captain flakken i thought you're gonna say fuck you granny's mom granny's mom metal's granny i don't know how to fuck my brain with that that right that makes no fucking sense fuck you granny's mom i don't even know how i got there they called that a super grandma there was a super brain fart like icarus cd project red flew too close to the sun so true and you know what poignant icarus is the bird man from god of war right that's that's where that's where that comes from yes originated there yeah it's pretty cool oh rags what did you do to battle to grandma ruined ruined so since et and star wars are in the same universe see senate does that mean that the et movie was the real first introduction to force healing i guess so that's where they established it it's weird they didn't bank on it at all except in those shittier movies there oh lank you're not gonna be able to do this lank no he slapped me fuck you lank oh no i'm gonna start editing the the clips tomorrow i'm so excited wow that plug he wants you to go watch his editing streams on editing metal.com that's i bought that today yeah but i actually downloaded all the clips and put them in vegas already the guys and it's two hours of clips wow it's a long man highlight reel oh what i've already got one life left and they give me the crazy hand too bullshit but dude all the clips of rags from the drunk stream they're so fucking funny it's pure gold so good that's pookie hand no no he's gonna poke me hey oh my god how am i supposed to survive this it's ridiculous wonder so much pressure i'm like city project red the 105 page of cyberpunk made it run slower yay all right chinese gamers equals ccp paid in game currency farmers i imagine they said like we can't lose the chinese market because we need their money in order to continue fixing cyberpunk oh god it's like guys too honest too honest really did you know that patry pascal was in buffy yes he's in season four episode one he's the friendo who eventually is not a friendo he's not in it for very long though unfortunate if only he knew he would become the mandandal orian very it's funny every time i've that i mentioned that i haven't seen buffy i was like wait how the fuck did you manage how did you manage to not see buffy yet yeah aren't you friends with me what the fuck yeah that's that's yeah that's east amin been like even porky was like wait you haven't seen it yet it was it was today yeah i mean they're trying to point out that you're a very disappointing friend that's all hang on that's not my fault my god you piece of shit i am a butcher and this time of the year is brutal for me but thanks for helping me get through 18 hour shifts i couldn't do it without you guys and jameson also hello rags um hey man yeah you know i i can't picture the whole like butchering while listening to efab thing but if it works out would it be helpful if we were derogatory toward animals as you chop them get you reindeer get fucked cow whoa fucking cow fucking them cows but uh yeah that's neat and hope it's going well you know hope it helps going well my experience with cyberpunk 2077 it just makes me want to play deus x human revolution or mankind divided instead true cyberpunk rpg immersive sims what do you guys think yeah either he played daewoo's eggs i played day is actually a long time ago useless it was very good though i am glared that you wouldn't do it until i felt that nomad was the one the game is a very different cyberpunk is what sorry good oh i was saying cyberpunk 2077 is a very different vibe to deus x so i don't know about just play deus x instead i felt nomad was the one the game was written around it's certainly not corpo that's all i know mad really i don't see it considering the shit you do in the game maybe maybe but the only problem child is corpo we're in a cold war with china but usa just hasn't entered the ring also did y'all see drinker such a handsome drunk keep up the good work guys he is handsome that is true the cold war shall be decided by cd project red when they put the game back on the market but not in china chicory to fuck up that oh my god if writing can be objectively bad can a film be objectively bad if so how many issues does the film need to have to be considered bad thank you um it's a little bit more nebulous when you go with film i find if we need to break it down into all different crafts involved whether or not you like because this is why i would always if i if i'm like oh film bad and then they're like what film bad um but i love the you know and then name stuff that isn't right and it'll all go oh okay the writing is really bad i guess and then they're like okay um because you'll find with a lot of mainstream stuff these days they usually kind of pretty good with like soundtracks and cinematography and acting and oftentimes casting too and like everything just sort of is okay and then you're like how's the writing and you start crying like mel so embarrassing i'm i'm i'm happy that's not on stream hey you know how zelda can teleport does it disaparate her and then re-apperate her meaning she's not necessarily the same entity anymore oh my god where's a soma how the fuck did i fuck this up in the same place again hmm also you mean zeldo not zeldo or zeldan saltan oh woman-on-woman violence this game is bad uh she dies every time oh no she does the moves like but yeah um a film being objectively bad it's just like if you want to make your standards clear and then say they fail to reach these particular standards i think that's probably gonna be the best way to be clear about what you're talking about um but like you know even tlj and stuff we're dealing with films that have so many crafts put in there with thousands of people working really hard that they're not gonna fuck up all of them more than likely look at the costumes and sets they're pretty neat even if you don't like kanto bite there's a lot of work went into it to make it look like a real place you guys like kanto bite right no no i like a bite to eat though that's pretty cool no you're not allowed where is that one okay left it's kind of fucked up that they expect me to work to get these targets just be able to grab them all instantly um the game probably would have been better if it was made more linear a more curated experience like deus x or the witcher is that how people feel about deus x and the witcher depends which which but i i would say i would like to have some more linear games and not another open world game i don't care for open worlds generally i think they're more hassle than they're worth you should find with open world just searching for all the ways they account for the fact that they're open world like how do they deal with the fact that they're open will because it's never gonna be what if you get what i mean by this but like it's never actually gonna be open world it's always just gonna be a compensation for the fact that it's not open world but of course colloquially when we say open world we all know what we mean and yeah um curated curated experiences can often be pretty damn awesome deus x is a good example of that more like deus x there you go oh dude snorlax beat pikachu is that like law accurate yeah all right fine i died it was horrible i feel like you could have an entire game from just the intro getting this corpo or nomad into night city streets and getting you to know all the important characters yeah totally uh but it's the thing at that point so this is you know about the whole like getting to know jackie through that series of flashback flash forward whatever that is a different story rather than a strictly better or worse one i was just interested in talking about how like it would probably make everything to do with jackie a little bit more meaningful but ultimately if that's not what their focus wants to be i think it probably would have been for the best but maybe it would have ended up being worse you don't know with these things for sure you know as far as one issue immediately being you know the main plot line is very urgent but it's an open world game so you're encouraged to ignore it because stuff with jackie seems very much to just be yeah with doing jobs going around partying you know going up in the world in the city i'm gonna skip ahead because i find this one funny muller i've been trying to watch buffy but wow season one was tropey tropey is not quite how to describe i'll just say it's bad fair it up uh why is charisma carpenter in the opening credits she's um quite prominent in the series in terms of she's not as prominent as the other main characters but she's definitely like around a lot and she's supposed to represent a sort of um a life not lived for buffy that's the character that she's supposed to kind of be there's a rather obit shot that i quite like where she's setting up for i think it's either prom or some of the dance or whatever and buffy's just looking at it through the window surrounded by her friends and wearing a dress while buffy's like preparing to go and fight something i don't know there's some stuff in season one i do actually like i just don't want to imply to anyone that season one is good so i'm usually just like a shit um but yeah she's main enough that she makes it into the credits and then uh you said isn't she just 90s mean girl seems odd yeah she's a tad one dimensional in season one uh season two starts to get a bit of a bit of chunk and then season three um i shouldn't probably describe this because it's telling you how long she'll be alive for or whether or not she will be alive you can't have that but yeah don't worry season one's bad though it makes sense that you'd be unhappy with it but you should be right like oh well that just happened oh i'm very bad at this trophy thing not you buy you can go pee pee and poo poo whatever you want it was for may queen there you go you frosted robot with the buffy references now do you think it's bad that bowser is hitting a woman yes all right just make sure you got your your input on it because i think chat we're curious go on bomb light up light up i'm not really wow okay bowser you gotta die now that was very rude you fucking dodged the stupid bullet bill too i hate you please drown going for the pokey ball huh well now i have it oh and it's a chikorita how annoying for you bowser okay that was actually pretty satisfying not gonna lie um i personally still haven't heard a good argument against return of the sith revenge of the sith i guess uh sorry would love to hear your thoughts mutually also high rags uh the prequel arc is not complete on efap we have done phantom menace and attack like lones revenge of the sith is yet to come we were intra interrupted by good old the last of us two so uh the prequel arc shall return possibly with more attack the clones and revenge of the sith coverage because i feel like phantom menace you know it it got its coverage you know um but yeah we'll talk about revenge of the sith um eventually and you're in luck if you haven't heard a single argument against revenge of the sith oh boy that'd be like three it's gonna be like christmas for you okay so um that might have been hard up until i got the hammer yeah hammer kind of just solved that encounter didn't it i got lucky how come when a celebrity is in a movie we can see them as their character but when it comes to video games it's considered so immersion breaking i don't think it's as clear cut as that sometimes in movies you can have trouble with it it's because you've taken a very clear step back like you have actively gone out of your way to represent the character like to represent the actor in the video game when you absolutely had other options to further disguise that it's an actor playing a character so you've just for some reason you know gone backwards in terms of the ability like immersion and stuff well i know i keep saying for some reason i know why it's just for clout well yeah i don't know is anyone under any illusion about that like so they have keanu reeves in there and they make his in-game character look exactly like keanu reeves because they want to sell the fact that keanu reeves is in the game because he's a popular celebrity right now nobody is wandering in a pioneer that right i'm glad that we're not wondering about that on the same page right so yeah um if and so someone's probably out there like well wait why is that bad and it's like okay so if you were like oh my god we need this actor because he's best for portraying this character um and then he's in the game and then they model it directly after him uh that could have similar results while also being completely like altruistic and well what's the right word for that just a good move um but like if samuel jackson was some kind of character in cyberpunk as well it'd be pretty impossible not to uh detect him who's voice and i think this happens to some degree with um certain actors and certain things so like robert diney jr in anything if he's like iron man in any way it's just gonna be like i don't know i just kind of see tony stock i don't really see you know robert flume or whatever he's playing in the in the film shit it can happen um and i think they uh they knew they they really wanted to bank on keanu in this game which is weird because he didn't get parking maybe choose someone who's um not only beloved but also is is it a heart take to say he's a bad actor i can't remember i've heard that a lot recently so i don't think it's a heart take okay good because he's an awesome guy but holy shit i don't know yeah when i was watching the new billard ted i was like oh my god can you please help like the line and get to someone mr connor hamilton i have seen 2003 clone wars by tata kovsky uh it was fun is it better it was a lot of fun it was significantly better but i i don't have much to say about it other than it was fun because there's not much to do in terms of people suspicious boke i certainly wouldn't call it bad i think it was pretty good but i'm not particularly interested in writing it it was just fun there you go chat chill out he likes it now it's it's officially canon fuck out i mean samurai sit down i fucking love samurai jack so things from well until season five broke my heart but oh another show that did yeah came back from the grave for a final season after forever uh and the first three four episodes were fantastic and then the rest was bad remember game of thrones i will never stop finding it funny how game of thrones has just vanished from like popular culture it's just gone outcome oh never liked the idea that i couldn't grab cyber psychos lol also did anyone find the non-lethal takedown animation pathetic as hell just give him a tug on the throat and boom unconscious corpse yeah uh it was a little lame and it's the same thing every single time uh even even tonal mentioned that he was annoyed about that that was a fun cameo wasn't it no he was just like on twitter like oh i'm available and i was like oh my god lord tonal does enter the chat oh there you go that's that's where we're at in the superchast uh feels like they forced the release for xmas i bet they would have been better off aiming for summer i think we can all agree that they needed more time yep uh yeah uh i think you'd like the final episode of mando i hate the show and agree with you on it but the final that made me cry for fuck's sake also let me snort your seat flaps rags i'm gonna save that for him oh my god uh the last episode made a whole bunch of people cry and they'll cite why and then you'll understand like do you know why they did the thing that you just cited made you cry it was to make you cry i'm sorry i don't know what else to say dt is here again is it already christmas hi dt it's cremos from barnes also he's gonna be um the next e5 gaming to release is the one where he was in it so a double dose of tonald i cried when i saw r2d2 i clapped and i cried both of it it made a lot of people feel like they're 10 years old yeah do you know what people said i put two crates no they said about tfa you know a lot of people said about that movie what's that was it was it stuff like it made me cry because i saw the things that i know and it was so sad it made me cremos it made me cry because i saw han solo fire his blaster and han solo said that's not how the voice works and it was so wonderful it was glorious yo did you cry when you saw the force awaken yeah it's so wonderful so glad listen mandalorian is gonna age really badly just fyi because it's really bad that's probably gonna lead to it creatively bankrupt horrifically it's so sad to see such a well funded property that's designed to tell you a story that has absolutely no interest in telling a story what the fuck happened this story is something i think do you like star i think that's something you said that really resonates with me about that show where you can just picture all the writers sitting around the table like head in their hands kind of i don't know what now ice spiders well everyone's aside that like uh it's a macquarie design that um that they use and it's like as much as that's probably true they still would probably like what now ice spiders and then they just use the designs um and then yeah because episode so you got episode one was the the boba fett reference and cool new cowboy character from other tv shows you might recognize such as deadwood and justified episode two was completely like nobody gave a shit the writers wise there was nothing they were doing with that one it was just to make the quota of eight episodes episode three was uh bo katan that was the bo katan episode episode four was the cool characters from season one that you liked episode episode five was the asoka episode episode six was the boba fat episode episode seven was the bill bear episode and episode eight is the luke skywalker episode episode two is the only one where they were like i don't know fuck it that's funny because episode two as far as we were concerned is probably one of the tightest episodes in the season they're all kind of bad i want a pokeman oh my god those writers must have been cooing when they thought about people enjoying all the episode characters you know what it's not just going to be boba fat it's going to be dark troopers as well dark boba fat dark troopers are black and have red eyes because they are very cool this is storytelling it's not though god fucking damn it i'm so sorry i didn't mean to upset you so much um i don't like this river who fights dumb who put tonald in the not important group we must find them beat them with a rubber hose hang them and then make them the make them repent yes wait who put him in the non-important groups what was i referencing uh he didn't because he didn't get a uh pre-release copy because he the important group like ign man it's good that they're considered important yeah they're very important the people who gave us mandalorian episode 10 and 10 on a 10 i believe thank goodness highest of every news only the you know most rigorous exerted i just like these standards i'm a big fan of them i'm not sure what they are but they're great well that's the standards i don't know i mean if your standard gives you better numbers that must be better right that's how this works do you think cg project red can pull off a no man's sky or do you think the base problems run too deep they're going to if by pull off a no man's sky i mean improve their game and you know fix the things that people didn't like about it on release yeah we'll probably do that the bug the bugs uh covid and working from work working from played a part for sure and they started full development after blood and wine yeah that makes the most sense to me i guess something clearly didn't go quite right in the development process if they were reset which is what i've been hearing is a possibility that would probably be a big dent in the production oh yeah absolutely gonna be a big old flumple dingus fuck i'm so dumb uh cut that out please this toy battle is live and i beat the jump back into water and die again so see it can we can we redo that guys we're all gonna go rewind five minutes okay everybody go back to positions even like the enemies in my game stop doing it they're like okay so far it reminds me of like a like a really old wrestling uh thing that's like a famous clip now they're like live on pay-per-view and they do like an interview or promo and he fucks something up at life until he's like oh can we redo that did he was like we're live no we can't it's fucking hilarious so great are you sure they're completely out of character it's like can we redo that it's like no they should have just gone with it a bit like yes we can let's do it again psycho said uh good plus points for uh steven john and chad there what do you say oh he recognized what i was referencing uh good good good job good job good job good job good job where are you going lank oh he's going for food you fat fuck wow what the hell is going on here what's going on man though get that gun out of my face man though good old bill bill people should call him man though yeah everyone stop calling bill bill bill please bill blurbs bill listen bill you know um his prison sentence was very meaningful because he just left as soon as he was released how long was he in there it was time that's how long i've never been neat to have had it so that they did put him back in and then he gets the nice of you and the next time they need him for something he gets better again and then like the third mission or some shit they're like you know what just join our crew you fuck like fuck no you're fucking idiots i don't want to fucking die are you crazy every single time i hang out with you guys we're getting blowed up oh bill bill come back bill bush yeah uh any thoughts on baby driver and samurai jack uh you take it away with samurai jack go i really like samurai jack it's a large part of my childhoods i fucking love that show it's fantastic i adore it except season five back off which was very upsetting to me oh it's okay is what you're saying whether to touch you too just mean my feels oh you're feeling uh i guess and that's full um what was the other thing i was talking about oh yeah baby driver okay i mean writing was garbage i thought the character sucked and the story sucked but um pretty much every other element was pretty awesome i'd have to rewatch it though to to be more specific than that because i honestly can't remember at this point other than someone was was a crazy person character it was jamie fox and someone else john ham he gets very angry by the end of it that's all i remember at this point also kevin spacey was in it i like him that means the film is now aged really badly so unfortunate that kevin spacey's in so many good movies you know also yoshi just killed himself again a lot of people kill themselves in this game i don't know cyberpunk 2077 isn't an unbridled mare i won't i am not the person to make much content on cyberpunk i'm happy to talk about the game on the podcast stuff and probably complete it yeah but i am not the one that makes a video on that game that's that's not that's not me hey white light said he would so there you go vio said he would too so we'll just wait and we'll get stuff you want how long till your video is out on email uh i released it uh two years ago how i told everyone like don't buy it it's gotta be super buggy and if you do you're flangus and now you're all flanguses they're good job but guys yeah two years ago back get away with calling people flying yeah every history of calling people flanguses you know it's flying guy like why are you even saying this whoa you can that's uh that's a slur you can do that my god i killed three children with a turtle shell nice dude not even guilty oh another child dead uh do you guys love the montage that skips character development potential for jackie lol yeah i mean i think it would have been with while having that bit but i guess they want to fast forward you to just i would be curious i guess they didn't want to because because they're gonna kill jackie off at the end of that segment that they didn't want to you don't have too much time on it yeah i guess so so a game called cyberpunk lets you customize your dong and there's no robotic go go gadget dong option what's the point then there isn't there simply isn't go go gadget dong dongle literally unplayable i mean you wouldn't describe that as a cyberpunk game if you can't have a go go gadget dong right i'll be misleading dong fling flung yeah no it defies the genre convention or it's bad stupid child come back whoa i must murder you man it's nice playing crash without having a crashing pc and without the weird angry australian commentary yes so that was just part of the game i mean i didn't have that one when i first played this game on my other pc back in the numb non bread delicious i think we all like non bread here right chat this is the chill portion of the podcast where i ask people about non bread it's uh it's in each of the episodes i was there beckon non norn uh in my street kid playthrough maridith gets killed off screen by mill attack during the maelstrom mission no idea what i did to get that i did something wrong buddy wrong wrong that's how you proceed through the quest ye depends on whose buttons you push and where and when shut up metal no you last thought from me companies are going to use this as an example to not be ambitious themselves and just make copies of games uber soft oh no they're not going to use this they're going to use ghost of sushi man how do you get how does sushi make a ghost like this fucking stupid i mean is it the ghost of the fish or the sushi in general no it's just the ghost but i asked the which which goat you lied to me you lied to me link is trying to no i got raped by a stone pusher and get me length you lanky piece of shit oh he's trying to kill me by push me to the edge that's fucked up edgy the lanky the lanky the edgy wow a whole fap dedicated to cyberpunk also tunnel top tier episode i mean of course would you expect anything less from f up don't think so ah stop with the boomerang now yeah you boomer see what i did there high five come on come on the tech sniper build that upper echelon did a video on completely breaks the game shooting through 20 feet of concrete and doing 800 000 damage a hit um well how do you know that's not intended idiots the game starts to get a bit broken by late game anyway sweet most builds seem to hit you know critical mass of most things can't threaten me sweet i mean that's what we want right no no i don't see i'd like to talk to you about passion okay you said no and then metal went no so i'd like you to do more of that because it shows that you're invested in the conversation like metal is yeah i pre-double even while i did it see like everyone to appreciate that can you save this conversation why not rolling can we can we edit this out look when you when you look at the old lines they have an emotion attached to them metal i guess read out your line by accident yeah but um i think he nails you know i can't read i just guess just look at the script and shrug and just start saying things like uh uh and they gave up on it at one point the script person they just put metal talks and everyone reacts to him as if he just said something specific yeah it's exactly right yes metal pats head so touching me you freak god mom mom hey guys i found it interesting that cyberpunk had an eight-year development cycle compared to the witcher three which had 3.5 years that probably doesn't represent how much time was actually on both games though i'm not convinced it had an eight-year development cycle i want to know when people are getting it getting that from from my understanding of things it started development after blood and wine released but are they going from when it was announced i would assume so which cdpr i think on record is calling that a mistake well whose fault is that i need some fringy damn that just means that i think fringy's wrong about everything makes sense maximum effective range for an m4 around 500 meters here is a site that adds zero two point zero two oh thanks guy a 500 point zero two is more than 500 so shut the fuck up i like i like that zero times multiply you showed early on the screen have you ever times anything by zero it's really oh the combination of the combination of the combination of short circuit and overheat make you op camera control ping short circuit and overheat everyone's down in 30 seconds without seeing me overheat isn't the broken one it's contagion what does that do uh you apply poison damage to someone uh by leaking the toxic parts of their cyberware into their bloodstream and it can spread to like a bunch of nearby enemies so from stealth if you're like a good enough hacker man and you know have enough bonuses to your damage you just pop it on an enemy and then three of them just explode and die immediately and then you short-circuit the other one for approximately 20 000 damage or so and uh yeah you're off to the races because you can do all of this through a wall are you the racer you're playing a video game stupid what of the video game is racing enough then you'll be in the video going to the races what you've said is wise and slander also i killed moth his his theme in this game is pretty awesome good for you moth moth moth i am proud of mouth oh wait i did it with ice climbers already no wish can prove miss um but yeah so that poison thing can you apply it without getting noticed yes though i found some weird little inconsistencies with uh quick hacking from stealth as to when you actually get put into combat and when you don't usually people just start wandering around in like alert state like as if to go the fuck is happening but sometimes you just end up in combat and if they spot you for a split second you know they'll know exactly where you are and you're detected and i'll start shooting at you and stuff i'm not sure exactly what's going on there the game does also have enemy hackers try and reveal your position if you just sit in stealth hacking too much but being able to find enemy hackers and stop doing that is kind of weird because i don't think they're actually physically present in the world all right all right um i think this is all an elaborate frack you to the peasants on console and i respect that oh my god i don't see any product i came out like that like the five years from now they announced like all of this was actually on purpose we kind of just wanted to own the console players because they go on to say that it's impossible to code as amazing of an experience the pc gets for the console that they give up and console is bad and they bet their entire company on trying to destroy the console industry it's just a super villain in some film this piece of media is all talking and walking rags channeling cinematic venom well there is a lot of talking right but uh walking as long as it's good talking and good walking is it really that bad i don't think the newfound obsession with walk and talk segments in video games is really annoying hey it's like a cup you can't skip yeah it's like the movies you know when the people they sit and talk in the movies i like that they sit and talk to them when they're you know wandering the fuck around that's bad when they wander really wow aha they stole my stupid pokemon but it was a gold dean no one likes gold dean anyone in chat says they like gold dean they are fired i'm watching i'll ban them soon as they say it just absolutely outrageous to say you like gold dean that's all that's all i'm saying you could add skill nodes that give three different bonuses dependent on background easy to implement one or two in each tree that you could unlock sure you could add a lot of stuff um but who knows how it permeates through the game yeah maybe it fucks the whole thing up did you think about that didn't think so i'm just i'm just gonna post this here in discord just keep doing this whatever you want movies aren't about logic and plot that's why i almost i almost never talk about those things they're about emotion and feeling oh boy i talk how do you think you get those emotions the first response under it is just no it's almost as if these feelings aren't just spontaneously generated from nowhere and the the piece of media you watch that evokes these feelings kind of counts for something in how it was put together i like this whole they aren't about that they are about this it's like i mean all of those things are what the movie is about i don't know it's all semantic shit that i hate they're about emotional all annoying declarative you know categorical statements like this is what films are yeah thanks oh high top high top high top this is because he's seen southpaw's video probably isn't it might be i don't know yeah probably i imagine it is because i don't think he can resist looking at videos that are shit on spider-man too i think he would you'd be like how dare you but since southpaw's video is heavily about the logic of how everything comes together um hmm yeah what do you think is used to translate emotion or the messages of the story to the audience what do you think it is is it a is it a boot a scissors a pair of scissors a scissor or amazing is it logic with how everything comes together character it's gonna go with a boot it's the boot yeah zipline movies aren't about logic they're about boots rolling out this fucking take again this takes as old as like cheese but it just doesn't go away but i like cheese stop it i like cheese too but you know we can do better than cheese what cheese she's not good enough i mean cheese is neat but i feel like there's just more things we can do does anyone disagree with this i don't know she it's not all about cheese what can i say i'm gonna say like no i don't disagree i say don't it's a part of a conversation i confused cheese and heim cheese and heim heimer heimer cheese and heim why is everyone silent ma i want to quote tweet i mean i'm trying to think of what to say i'm also doing this live stream about cheese i'm gonna look at chat and see what they what they think about cheese i guess very well movies are about cheese cool that's it will you go from chat was asking where's the doggo doggo went to sleep and heimers because tyritisms i'm going to cheese myself metal gay see that's why we that's why i hate chat my twitch chat on the other hand those guys are are no i can't lie they're not they're they're degenerates that's okay so uh look at the germans out there hi moodle uh plague was was uh i love me well that's at least one person i guess metal scooby is yelling at me again as always some of us are the same chat oh shit moodle is love yes yes hey i'm your twitch chat moodle and i'm nice shut up freddo screw your metal wow strict that's fucked up like all the people from the twitch chat in here it's like shut up metal you freak why does everyone hate you and fringing and rags and theo jeez you're all the way it's a chill one you're not supposed to hate me moodle is cheese i'm gonna eat myself i wouldn't recommend that honestly hey moodle you're my sixth favorite e-fapper i mean that's okay to be wrong that's fine jesus freddy gouda i get it or i guess in english it's gouda i think i don't know weird language i'm in your twitch chat on occasion and you're correct we all degenerates see metal chat rise up with a toxic root obviously with everyone well metal's german so hey moodle is love moodle is life too easy to pick on metal it's like picking on michael jackson i don't touch children why aren't you streaming metal well i'm here i'm chilling out i'm gonna stream tomorrow we're gonna beat up some valkyries the command number like plastic private wow that's so fucked up plastic don't worry molla we hate you too we hate you in opposition world six is pretty good to be honest yeah i'll take it metal is an elusive beast to me as i've known him for ages but only today learned what he's known for but i don't love that you don't love yourself loving cheese don't can't love to begin with yeah exactly everyone likes shad though he has swords yeah i can't i can't hang with swords uh i can't do anything against those i only have the booze metal's voice is surprisingly intriguing i'm gonna i'm gonna touch the intrigue what does it mean to be intriguing are they trying to say you're exotic do they find you sexually attractive through your exotic voice these are just questions i mean i have a very sexy beard so obviously hey metal if i want to visit Germany where do you recommend i visit don't i'm always in your chat metal yet you let julius out of your basement rather than me well you know how to use the doorknob so you can just leave i never locked the door julius is just a dumb to do it uh but no uh it depends if you want to visit germany you want to go to the cities you want to have some nice landscapes because landscape wise i would recommend like munich or bavaria they have like some really nice nice places metal is the bestest except when he isn't it did yeah and that's metal why aren't you better at video games listen fucker okay i don't know i got nothing better refuse to leave the valkyrie fight to grind for gear refuse to retreat i gotta respect that yeah and who beat the valkyrie me baby me this is now moodle stream i mean yeah the smallest streams on twitch and i stream on youtube that's how it works right yeah basically like mel and i own those platforms so we can't cross over king of twitch and king of youtube and i'm pretty neat yeah and gas and chamber heimer when uh i don't know like five years when i'm big enough i'm disappointed by the person who has an anime profile fake a set of christmas one theo oh germans are exotic especially the dominat dominatrix's have your smoked gouda i don't think i have sounds good though stupid chat stop skipping when are you gonna finish your god of war ascension never fuck that game the game was fucking trash oh my god that's stupid fucking trial they put in there fuck that especially on heart tell us the truth you actually like germany 2 don't you fuck no after i'm i'm uh i don't know if i'm gonna do it after i'm done with the highlights did i start preparing today or if i just change or switch in between german beer sucks okay where's the band button you fucking piece of shit get him wasn't he shirts midget everywhere mortal i'm the captain now great to do today metal thanks man i try demos people chat just skipped i don't even know where it was metal secretly is more or more it's just really good at voices yeah exactly what's your favorite beer budweiser not budweiser budweiser budweiser is really good beer it's my favorite instead of or better than ascension or not fuck way better way better germany is yumbly in my bum tumbly what is happening i don't know mollus trolling on twitter and i'm just i'm right in between do you what do you think theo do you like my tweet for metal moll and theo have you ever been to scotland and tried haggis and which drink would you want me to buy you i i've never been to scotland no i have never been to scotland i'm afraid and i don't drink racism also review my tweet metal where did you get your name from uh so basically i was at like a little a little concert uh like i like it probably 12 years ago now and i'd like some kind of military style codon and while the concert was going on some some randy came out to me and was like you look like the the the metal commander i was like yeah that sounds fun and that's where i got it from he said i'd rather watch a flick with 10 000 things that don't make sense that made me cry than a film that made me feel nothing but made perfect sense when do these things happen weren't these things yeah when is there even a movie that makes perfect sense that's pretty hard i'm not gonna lie um but it's just funny to me because i already know he agrees with my take you just have to frame it correctly semantics wise so his criticisms of a lot of different things that happen in um you know with with with his least favorite sputumans or uh movies he doesn't quite gel with he like patrick williams like just right like all the rest they will cite inconsistencies it'll always be inconsistencies it's rarely ever um like something that couldn't be classified under that and then they'll talk about how like yeah this this didn't line up and so it affected the emotional outcome it's just like is that right i cried when i saw it uh i thought there's a big weenie and um look before there's some people that used to mourn the coombs dream yes it's okay nine hey hey metal gay do you ever get tired of german nazi jokes do they get tiresome to you the people don't make them often i i make them myself most of the time never had i'm sure i like polana also see i know you have the power to do this um can you make people stop equate like dichotomizing logic and emotion uh sure stop doing that everyone stop it okay enough now you've done it really things are kind of at odds in ways but they're also not the idea that if you do something logically then it can't be emotional is fucking crazy and you need to stop when you sit down you know have some cereal you don't eat much in the mornings and it's making you act crazy maybe some toast maripones in different fields this this is not where you should be throwing them against each other as if they're in some kind of death battle and you can't have one without the other and one isn't informed by the other oh no like take metal is it logical the metal is always emotional yes because he's beaten regularly yeah i think someone asked why my my uh my profile picture is a pepe that that that uh stems from like a pretty much my og the og meme about me so uh oh you want to tell me your sorry do you want to tell them the og meme for why you cry is that what you're doing i mean i was about to uh i was about to ask did you know which highlighted highlights it was was like five or six or something when you made that uh the i'm not gonna be able to tell you which one that is mon yeah i need to like i'm basically uh mumbling that a montage of me beating trying to beat human night for the first time ever and it was like my first Dark Souls 2 playthrough so i had no idea about adp or whatever it was so it was painful i died a lot like probably closer 200 times and at some point i'm just really angry to say leave baby and yeah that's that's where the crying pepe came from i think at some point i just made that emote and made it my profile picture and here we are mel um says some funny things and and when you're desperately looking for something to leave you alone and you probably have the words in your native language that make a lot of sense but not many people when seeing speaking the old english say leave me be desperately in a moment of fury is it is quite funny yeah so metal leave me be was i spoke i spoke very differently back then as well so yeah much more like a disgusting foreigner you know yeah it's like we couldn't have that to get to fix you he's dead unfortunately upper management types hate concepts like exclusive decision paths it's only going to be seen by a fraction of the people who play the game it's seen as inefficient yuck yep i believe the first time i heard that argument was actually from total biscuit and uh i was like holy shit i miss it i miss this video i think youtube could really use total biscuit like it's uh oh yeah absolutely oh man he was good for discussion not always person i agreed with 100% of the time but fuck me do i miss that guy when you guys play the original deus x or its sequel invisible war what were your thoughts also hyrax i have not you guys played deus x invisible war i think i played the original deus x a ridiculous amount of time i got to the point where i don't really remember even it's one that i've been meaning to go back to at some point because yeah it's a very good game it's one of the classics by most people's accounts well good i'll be honest with you i don't like playing as jigglypuff there i said it i don't find jigglypuff that great it was fun to have a jigglypuff is using weapons big map or what big mac or wopper it's a good question just reminds me i haven't had proper mcdonalds instead of the movibob challenge maybe the movibob challenge is his way of getting people to stop eating mcdonalds i think the last time i was at mcdonalds was with my mom i was like i'll just have a coffee you've had enough okay just stocked up for the year and i don't have a lot of burger kings around where i lived in germany we do have burger kings here but i mostly had mcdonalds around me i couldn't even tell you if i i mean i probably i like a wopper but i don't know which i would prefer i'm i honestly i i don't have an asaflux i can't even quite remember i haven't had one of either of them in ages yeah same that's uh yeah pio you'll know the answer to this you love fast food uh no comment well so that guy sending that super chat looking to find the scientific answer and you got nothing well done guys i do i do like me some some some big mac some trombus some trombus yeah dude is so satisfying being jigglypuff and firing a giant laser weapon at a donkey kong he fires into space that's what this game gave to the players okay they didn't have that before ac valhalla gear system is better than odyssey odyssey you had to upgrade gear constantly valhalla had a few gear sets it's not level base you can wear the gear you liked whenever you wanted what do we think i don't know anything about those i i i say i i'm sorry new uber soft games poison keep them away from me you know that's biggest free level yes those games yes so i i can't see anything it means i get to hate uber soft games then i'm all aboard what a kio i don't know if they had a line to explain it but i find odd the entire plot hinging upon you solely witnessing the patricide when memory playback technology is established that was the thing i had uh it's an issue i had the story around that point is like the game acts as if it's uh like uh it's all in your you know your personal testimony so no one will ever believe you when i like i have cyber eyes this is a known quantity uh so it makes me think do they just not record what they see somewhere i don't know like data banks in my cyber eyes show things or maybe it is everyone just assuming that if i show that footage around it'll be like oh it's doctored but if that's the case then you know that needs to be expanded upon in the actual game like have someone say something like that like you know we'll just show them the tapes and then someone goes no fucking idiot everyone will immediately assume that it's doctored and you'd be contending with arasaka's legal team and you know bring hell down upon yourself and all that stuff but uh yeah game kind of neglects some of the implications of every single person in the world having machinery primarily in their eyes because eye implants seem to be pretty much ubiquitous i have not been watching uh any new animals recently i still to finish code gears but my my my works basically consisted of work stream and or efab stuff sleep and then repeat so living the dream living the dream how do you feel about the whole the story as a whole from what you played for you like in terms of uh shoring up make i have i have enjoyed it a lot i think it makes pretty good sense uh it's pretty simple in concept it's you know very character focused about you and johnny for the most part really uh my only thing at the moment is i wish there was more of it dlc because i know yeah give me some dlc dulce i don't know honestly if the entire game was the johnny silverhand sequence stretched out for 20 hours it'd be a far superior game what do you think that sequence was fantastic but part of what makes it so good is that it's such a strange occurrence and it's not the norm of the game i guess because i'm done yeah what is that sequence so um after the job goes blocked and your character gets shot in the head uh you look like everything goes blank for a bit and then you come back in like a completely different setting you're like backstage of you know some gig that some band is playing and uh you know through a few subtle things it's revealed that um you are playing mr kiano reeves johnny silverhand he swaps to him because this is how you know your memory you end up getting integrated because at this point you have the chip in your head that he has his n-gram on it and then you go through you flash through basically almost like a fever dream of things from johnny like the significant events from johnny silverhand's past but the most prominent being uh you head out and do the most significant thing he did in this life which was new king arasaka tower new and uh there's really good music to go with the whole thing to make it feel really unique and different johnny's gun handles fantastically and has a really cool reload animation and uh the entire sequence feels like something really special and cool to witness uh and i think if you were to stretch all that out into an entire game that would probably take the magic away from it and it'd take away what made that bit so special and it probably turned into like a fairly generic shooter and it wouldn't it wouldn't hold out well if you stretched out just that bit of the game maybe they'll uh do something a little more like it with dlc's or if people are responding positively to it there was a lot of things that if the stuff with johnny silverhand honestly more than anything else reeks of cut content and running out of time like more like you know the stats screen right well first off i guess you don't really mind spoilers that's fine i'm sorry okay i don't know how spoily this is you know the stats screen right where your attributes are like cool and intelligence and stuff yeah uh in that screen after all of the business has gone down and you've got johnny silverhand in your head an extra like block will appear there down at the bottom between some of the other ones and if you hover over it it goes all fuzzy and stuff so my first thought upon seeing that is oh the hell is this can i actually put points into this you can't at first so i figured you know it'll unlock later and it's just you know probably something really cool to do with johnny maybe it's you know a johnny skill tree and i can feed into this uh turned out i'm i haven't completely finished the game but i am at the point of no return so to speak where if i proceed the main quest now i will be doing nothing but main quest until i have completed all of them um and nothing has been done with that box it it's just nothing and there's another thing that feels like that was a mechanic that was supposed to be in the game in that the character will give you two kinds of pills uh blue pills and uh orange pills the blue pills will slow the effect of johnny's engram taking over your mind and that kind of uh whereas the orange ones will accelerate it uh i was disappointed because i thought that was going to be like again another big mechanic to see how much i could play into siding with johnny's silver hand or acting like him or making my character more like him in certain aspects uh that turned out to mostly be a nothing burger again but the pills do come back in some much later on sequences just was no real very interesting implementation so those two things specifically really feel like they had lofty ambitions for what to do with johnny and stuff that they might have gone with but they just couldn't figure out how to how they wanted to make it happen shame yeah absolutely because there's potential for some really really cool shit with the story set up and the things they hinted at with those couple of things sorry can't see chat right now be in chat though all good judy alvarez and panam panamapama mic drop are we just are we just saying those two are cool uh what was that judy alvarez and panamapama mic drop i'll close a couple of characters in the game they're both good characters i like them both briny do you think gta 6 will release in the next few years and what are you looking forward to i hope there's more activities do you like sports eating entertainment etc make choices i'll i'll save all of this take it away from me if i am able to nor have them like on the next efab or something i'll try and get it to him but i'm sorry if he's not gonna be able to see it or not um fio is a pretentious a-hole oh i remember reading that well off to work hope you guys are still going to house from now yeah that's a good chance oh my god oh we read those two i wanted to play cyberpunk with russian va but installing russian voice files resulted in crash on launch i had to delete the in the english voice file archive and rename russian one to english manually to make it work oh get content handle the bled yeah maybe that's just a message to russians oh my god like yeah okay it's a little bit edgy but you know hey white light you dragging yourself through destiny 2 again for uh europea dlc i'm sure you've also heard they vaulted half the game what does it mean to vault a game i don't know like lock it off or prequels were good no no no no no no uh could you explain why empire is objectively better than a new hope i keep hearing it but it's never expanded on oof um if i've made that claim before i would probably be like actually uh i would have to rewatch them and go super in depth to try and argue why because they're both pretty damn strong they both got little issues and some of them there's some like larger issues in both two but they do fantastically well i might argue that um empire is more ambitious and complicated and thus uh it's more impressive that it manages to stay so stable or something like that i'm not sure but yeah we'd have to rewatch them both again before wanting to claim it but i know that empire is definitely the one that i believe to be better and it's my favorite empire was uh quite liked by a whole bunch of people and it's what made star wars what it is uh along with the new hope those two together oof it was already over but then return to the jet i gave you a really really good payoff so probably helped too no and then the prequel sparked a whole bunch of bonus content that everyone really liked and then the sequels spawned a whole bunch of movies that everyone really liked right yeah sure what tlj efap movies for 500k sub special i we could do efap movies at tlj i don't see why not one day i don't know what we would talk about till probably just this crazy journey that has been tlj that started up stuff i wouldn't even be talking to metal right now if it wasn't a tit for tlj why that's the way for you to be like what we met before that what do you mean before that they say net because it was only as a result of tlj the metal started paying me so that he could hang out with me i wouldn't have accepted wait that's where my money is going you actors cyberpunk has the substance to be one of the greatest rpg's ever and don't get me wrong i love playing it when it works but i'm currently unable to play it for more than 15 minutes without a full crash even on my 3080 damn yeah i um man sounds like we're all in terms of crashes yeah we need we just need some updates cd project red get get the bigger issues out of the way quick because my globinus it is nor so good the sooner the conversation stops being about bugs and crashes sooner we can you know have a more productive conversation about what's actually wrong with the game i say actually wrong with the game as if bugs aren't you know legitimate problems but the name bo katan derives from felonies wife an and her cat boogie so it's boogie cat an who or bo katan bo katan um this is the thing i don't like that sounds i mean it could be i don't really care but it's not to do with whether or not it's katan or katan it's just can you guys pronounce it consistently please like it's awkward how am i supposed to say it i don't know if it was a matter of they fucked up on the mandalorian or if they fucked up on uh tcw slash rebels i don't know you always want doughnuts because we had to stop allowing people to have doughnuts on e-fox you could eat in the mall like i want them all so the guest has to have at least one and then they look at the sprinkles one and you're like and then i'm like okay we'll get two sprinklers from now on then the guest like can i have the two sprinkles and you're like you can have two sprinkles don't you just pringle pringles sprinkles do not touch the sprinkles give me the prongles what what pringles prongles ah you died pringle huh i also killed the guy who killed me so i counts for something right well it didn't happen yet on my screen so it actually okay now that no i thought that was the one okay that people need to wake up and smell that coffee all right i like some go for now huh you got minus 500 points for being a coward i'm allowed to be a coward jupiter is a crunchy fart efab 2020 so no it's a fart with a crunchy middle i thought he said it was a chewy sensor and i guess he said crunchy after yeah well i mean i said i think i said crunchy actually maybe i don't remember it's been like two hours yeah you're like planets is the crunchy or chewy in the center of jupiter somehow i don't think a ball of rock is very chewy so we go then it might be molten i don't know is it molten prongulon might be chewy i don't think anyone's taken the time to test that what you did that was like the whole reason i hired you oh i thought you hired me for my spectacular you know emotive range dude why do you sound so angry uh conservative satirical website the Babylon B released an article called trump confirms there will be no presidential pardon for ryan johnson oh my god well i guess it was worth ryan trying right uh being eaten by chumbo is what happens when you don't accept gene into your heart true the only thing better than spider chumbai is venom chumbo i guess we're gonna find out who's gonna win out of tom hardy's venom and sputum and tom holland eventually right let's do something they'll do he's so fucking exciting oh no did my game freeze oh it's okay did y'all ever play ultimate alliance awesome four player co-op marvel game with tons of heroes and lots of cool cutscenes and levels would be perfect for super chats and gaming i did i have not actually played it relatively recently like a year or two ago on steam uh it's still kind of fun especially for for what it is i don't remember the cutscenes steam or something isn't isn't like you can't buy it anymore or something maybe mixing it uh let me check that wasn't ultimate alliance yeah marvel's ultimate alliance starring spider man iron man four man doesn't look like it's all green man i think i remember something that they pulled it for reasons activate activation of those marvel rides so not on steam ah there you go okay delish ghoulish indeed yeah i liked it and maybe we'll it'll pop up in a if i'm gaming at some point who knows batwoman delorean am i wrong they're saying the batwoman delorean is bad by the way if you didn't pick that up okay oh yeah mel's a little slow with these things we're just making sure he's got it wait wait you're again walice oh hey walice 32 hour stream when when metal 32 yeah they want a 32 one i thought it was 87 i guess maybe this is on top of that you're gonna do it uh in 20 107 you're not gonna be alive then well you don't know that i literally checked the calendar says you die tomorrow so oh no you're less concerned about that you're just like don't tell him don't tell him wow i thought i was doing okay as math here but apparently not complete the disney trilogy was so bad that mando in the finale feels amazing and tear jerking by comparison if you say so mando episode two or three i super chat saying it was the same old disney garbo and mube and rag told me no wrong were you tricked by disney or are they still good uh so i liked episode one quite a bit i thought episode two was kind of lame and then episode three pissed me off and it pissed rags off too and i think the first thing we did was talk to fringy about it because fringy was like no episode three was good and we were like mother fuck this beat and then episode four happened and i was like okay so this show is fucking dreadful because episode four is the one it's the one guys that's the one the fucked everything up for everybody um and then rags wanted to do uh no wait rags wanted to do his video after we so we did the podcast breaking down the episodes and we had to watch the season again to make sure you know references were okay when we did we found loads of issues with episode one we were like oh no that ain't that ain't good and so we uh explained them all in the podcast and then after that rags has been making his video and we've found that's just the entire thing is fucking broken from beginning to end that's no good blimey manner is a masterpiece hillhouse is a masterpiece that drops the cake right at the door just before the birthday party starts and then shums its pants in front of everyone i mean kind of on that last episode it does they're about yeah you know who doesn't shum blimey manner yeah my air oh yeah yeah but there's an ultimate episode flashback sequence it ruins tension it's like it ruined everything by making it better don't have that yeah but hand you need to get past dongo dial and reach dingo septence spring that's nice i like that it's good ringy don't be a dongo dial like rama rama put the petrol in the car don't drink it learn from rama rama is this like a language yeah yeah is this a weird australian language thing because i don't get none of it save me hands i don't think they're there to save you what why i mean they're squishing you and knocking you off oh okay you can't squish something with love and i don't kind of kind of painful no no no don't do that why must you hurt me oh really i just lost a life and nothing but nothing no no no don't put me to stop ah i don't like these hands they're all touchy feely races oh great i'm never winning this oh that attitude i don't think the attitude is gonna matter oh did a dab dab dab oh you grabbed on what a good little mouth no oh i died i'm so sad don't forget tcw's not godzilla episode where the zillo beast was brought to carousel for an outer world and broke free and went on a rampage what yeah i was really stupid there's a godzilla episode not even yeah they're a whole godzilla arc even okay i'm surprised it didn't damage the other hand even ones oh i don't want to damage them yeah okay i'll take one out first you have your little bitch no taking on two at once it's just dumb what are you a stormtrooper no i i yeah why four in it why can't we do any of the shitty moves like the lasers come on no stop doing the hand wave go up it oh the lep the super chalice says blep the squat in the bottom right really made my day better hail squat hi rags oh spot spot is here for us all really wants to take care doing your time of need yes fun fact best gal can be shot through because clone wars and rebels show it happen and can't stop lightsabers either uh is that true that's your opinion here well i don't know if the man is wearing best scar in um what do you call it uh tcw but yeah they get shot and it works chat what is your opinion on this some of you've seen the tcw's and the rebels and i can't trust the okay time i guess yeah all the time i need i need people to think to show this shit even though it's really good or something your life depends on it yes that's true best guy is broke by lightsabers and blasters really like blasters well that's best guy is pure best car um yes it breaks man dough in rebels they make a weapon specifically for mandalorian armor so i'm gonna say yes everyone told us that um best guard defending against like all that shit uh was like like established already uh fun fact oh wait taking on breaking bad and better call soul or takes on them walter and jessie a wonderfully written duo she has dudes uh breaking bad's kind of in the top slot for me in terms of quality tv show not my favorite but the one i'd probably say it's the best i remember watching i watched some of better call soul and i thought it was pretty good i had a good time with that well i got a piece i'll be right back no mando made the disney fanatical star wars universe real white light have you been playing phoenix rising and should i expect content about it i don't know what the answer to that is the funny and stupid thing about best car is that it deflects both lightsabers and blaster bolts cortosis weave in the eu deactivated lightsabers upon contact with the material making it useless so anyone saying that they're the same and that the eu had something the same is wrong lol oh yes and cortosis is even rarer than best car i i don't i don't really know what to make of all of that yes it's a lot of it is stuff i'll agree with you on that yeah i highly recommend playing spider man ps4 it's a good story and a pretty good gameplay and an open will that isn't bad either sweet uh i do want to play it at some point i don't know when i will though i can't remember what i have to do now there's have to be adventure mode with everybody too okay fine i don't understand why people think this is combat is good i'm level 34 have 687 armor and i die in one shot i built my character for high armor and crafting and it absolutely does nothing at all hmm it's not the experience i've heard from other people who've gone like deep into crafting and you know big tanky characters i've heard they do a great job of being you know invincible but who knows i won't know until i play like that and it's not how i tend to play games like that who plays a game tanky that's lame oh look it dropped grapes and i'm hammering them i'm gonna get wine that's how that works right yes bring his reactions are often the funniest i'm not gonna disagree with you these are wonderful little ozzy hello metal with what xbox live microphone kiss me what you sounded like you had an xbox live microphone oh when my microphone fucked up yeah i have no idea what happened there that's not it's so fucking weird why don't we randomly fight a bunch of yoshis it's the point of this it's kind of fucked up isn't it yeah it's just someone to hang it to the law also i guess there's enough super chats that i can make another drink i reckon right yeah yeah yeah nice there's about a half an hour left of them i think i like not being not having to take care of time yay i don't like taking care of time either it's just like i just stay up until i go to sleep that's super that sounds but it's not like oh if i stay up super late i have to fix my sleeping schedule it's like i don't need to sleep my schedule for like two weeks live in the dream yeah this week on efeb phone interview with metal hey how do they know we're doing that we're setting that up i don't know okay i'm gonna drink perfect all right rags is the reindeer that ran over grandma when did that happen why was there a did a reindeer run over grandma is that is that cannon no oh i'm sure for a moment there they want uh finishing wl's seven hour video was my proudest moment i imagine that's white lights uh death stranding video i think i am referenced in that that means it is also my video now that's how it works right like a seven hour death stranding video feels good man feels good uh death stranding is you know it's it's a really it's a game so i don't remember what he said in that video from what i saw of it and i and i if he said it was shit it said it was great it's great there you go hey rags if you smaller and wolf were captured by someone who held at gunpoint had to choose which one was to live who would you choose oh wait so it's the question for rags and he has to choose oh so he has to choose if i owe a meal wolf die geez well i mean i guess i'll save the question for him that's gonna be a fun one like who who dies right yeah uh you guys already have thoughts on how cdpr will add what elements in game dlc slash update uh no clue i think there's probably feature enough in the game for now i would focus on getting everything running as best as possible with everybody's iteration of the game um proceed yeah uh if the question is like what features would you add it's like i wouldn't even want to begin to say what the best thing to add first would be um i'm i hope that the release journey goes well what what else can i say i don't know i am pretty certain at some point we will get a serious cameo wait i've heard that's what the fans want yeah because she references cyberpunk in witcher three so she better book by wonderful 101 on steam i don't know what that is you guys know i think it's a game cube game uh back in the day uh wonderful 101 now that's a platinum game the planet game wonderful one on one remaster platinum oh yes i was gonna ask you i did not know about the genre planet it tells you off uh mathematosis very much likes the wonderful 101 talks about it all the time oh we you apparently okay i thought was uh a game cube one i think i'm mixing up a beautiful joe wasn't that on on game cube i believe okay i think so i think i'm mixing the oh i was mixing those up uh 45 bucks for a remaster that seems pretty steep a demo props to them already i always get props to do you think you have the stream demos uh i do ready go that was always a tough battle you know i i think i think one time i had that one and he just killed himself immediately like he walked towards me and just fell in the water like it didn't do anything yeah it's um the ai in this game isn't too bad but every once in a while they just fucking off themselves and it's like oh man i assume that doing it just you know simulate what it's like in real real life with battles you know a lot of people just don't want to have at it so it's like about uh about me and my childhood those uh i think they're called redeads and and zelda those zambies here you're seeing there i was terribly terrified of them as a child um i'm sorry did you make it no oh man hey no go away zelda die zelda that's not zeldo zelda throw another flower at you you're gonna look so pretty anymore pretty boy mom zelda's immune to damage that's cheating cheating hymers okay just let it run out that's cool with me i don't want to play as dr mario dude steam sometimes it's just great so i'm looking at the wonderful one-on-one remastered store uh store page i'm scrolling down it's like more like this devil make cry gt collection it's like i don't know i guess persona five strikers maybe the third one sex quest it's like i don't know i'm not even trying how can you question that i mean the just looks similar i don't know i'm not convinced yet it's like all normal games but you could be convinced like everything else is like oh devil make cry five brutal legends blah blah blah whatever trees is like sex quest why i don't know it's so funny though it has nine user reviews man i wonder if it's any good i'm not recommended someone wrote like a pretty long review you know this i don't know it's it's i don't want to read it right now once it's just garbage uh 0.1 hours on record you know what's more fun getting a zectomy with a slash um it's funny i mean do you mind trying it out just to see if that's true about the uh the zectomy thing i don't want to pay 1250 for this game that's your response to what i just said really you know how funny that is i don't even know if you've realized it's not really because i i said it then i saw that i can buy the soundtrack for 80 cents so that's a steal i don't know that exchange was hilarious but i feel like i blew the pistol even though it's to happen oh well sad face it was next i think chat chat must have picked it up i'm sure sex quest eep up gaming when isn't the only thing i see the less than one fuck you zelda i don't grab you like vows it oh i work too yeah theo light i guess they're trying to say that you really do sound like white light yeah maybe steal the channel uh uh yeah i'll give it a go see how someone in chat just added me the wonderful 101 soundtrack is fantastic that's not the soundtrack i was talking about oh look at how look at how metroid just died watch how metroid just died right there metroid oh that's a shape metroid no because metroid almost did it but then metroid died hi too bad so sad um i think the clip from mandalorian with the red letter media guys clapping for boba fat is one of my new favorite things yeah oh it's fucking hilarious i love it so much it's incredibly on point and i feel like anyone who sees it will just be awkwardly like who it like really loved it would be like well you know or am i not allowed to enjoy stuff now that's that's the the thing actually here it's like yeah no we're the enjoyment police put your hands up we're gonna suck the enjoyment out of your flaps sounds meaningful a lot of people say that i really feel like they've been over exaggerating complete uh nope my earlier solution to russian va didn't work it got me to character creator but it crashes before starting the gameplay oh my god that sounds so very unfortunate in the game it's fucking bullshit bring it you endure sassy the sasquatch no no no no you know it's really difficult not simping for critical drinker when you face cams the man is too damn handsome it's wrong he really is he really is at mola wasn't the best part of endgame when tony forgave steve because he didn't like being angry because that's how people work hey man in the cinema i was unhappy with that scene i was like nope the payoff for civil war's whole shit should have been way longer than that and way harder and um i was kind when in one of the trailers they had uh steve saying do you trust me and then i am and saying it like shaking his hand i was like oh man i hope they earned that they didn't really it's kind of meh this is a message to all people to make stuff i like okay why couldn't metro it crawl metro i can't crawl go and lock in hey hey white light love your dog side is to video been playing it for a long time one of my favorite games i'm sure he appreciates that now wait a minute metro right now his money so you don't have to play the weeb game oh don't play doki doki i guess yeah his money so you have to play the weeb game oh man diziki i rags i have no idea what that means but i'll read it to him the next time he's around and he's going to be like what have you ever watched any gundam series or shows 10 out of 10 would love to see you analyze those i have not and is gundam a genre or is it an ip it is an ip it is a series of mecca anime and as people get inside machines and go boom boom we have heard that there is some good stuff in the fucking ocean of stuff that is gundam series i guess but uh not something i've ever watched i've been recommended to iron blood at all if it was many times but yeah that one's thought of in super chats bring you to a cajun act oh we read that one out mutually have you seen doomcocks tweet about plot holes i have it's bullshit i'm sorry but if you want to take that position then tlj is off the hook because millions of people felt that tlj was absolutely a fucking masterpiece of emotion and that uh the plot holes in it really don't do much to take away from that so uh if you want to make the claim that tlj is bad because of those plot holes but mandalorian is fine because you felt something i feel like that position is untenable but good luck i hope it works out by the way i'm surprised to uh to know now that gundam is an ip because i thought everything would that has like robots like this is just gundam that's what i that's why i clarified i've been operating this whole time not knowing if that was the case because i was about to ask does guru laghan count because i've watched that no that's just a mech code gas is a gundam because they have mechs right yeah by the way guru laghan wildest shit i've ever seen and i love it i love it it's great when you get to the second face and they just make up shits like yeah it's you know folding time stuff a very small fraction a very small fraction of the fab audience even see the the tail end of the fab videos you guys are getting your anime shit now you're happy listening to metal and theo talk about anime uh terrible don't tell anyone don't tell rags jesus it's between you don't make me read out a super chat that's like hey rags do you know that molla went behind your back and had theo and metal gush about anime when you were gone oh friendship ended ended right there you'll never hear the end of it yeah guru laghan fun shit what would recommend uh also hi rags moopsly mootle fring daddy g white light and i guess theo i guess so i i i hey i'm just re i'm the messenger man i don't want to i ain't doing nothing do your best stereotypical canadian accent asking is a moose screw and myself um i can't remember what the canadian accent even is um is it just right does he have a canadian accent uh not everybody knows what a y-wing is they will ask what are you talking about i don't know just say tim hortons a bunch those kudete to the two important huh yeah um that's best i can offer and i i don't know if these two want to try a canadian accent you got anything guys apart from a boot no sorry sorry no you gotta talk about boots and stuff eh how do you pronounce the word toq u e toq toq toq toq i don't know how do you guys pronounce tolki that's one sounds like toq but someone skipped the r now toq i don't know raggleton speak speak french to chat please all right i will save that for him just started learning japanese now that's a hard accent to pull off also go need your rags you'd appreciate that molla can you say hello to your family for for chat i think they deserve a hello you know what i will do that fucking will you'll see you'll all see molla can you say oh wait yeah there are only two british accents posh and cockney exactly absolutely this person knows their accents ugandan knuckles asking mando season one to two do you know do we mando season one and two this is the way ugandan knuckles looks then shakes his head this is not do we ugandan knuckles was right i know do we nobody trusted him but he was right when will v and j be on efab so that they can be kicked simultaneously also gene rags i don't know we'll have to see how that goes in the future are you boys aware of the existence of megalania aka the giant australian komodo dragon no that is not something i'm aware of i am now sounds pretty cool though um hey boys i'm finally editing my long man anime review and i believe it might be two hours at best however my biggest concern is youtube's copyright isms any advice no clips that are visually like consistent longer than six to seven seconds if you want to be safe unless you want to warp the visuals a la the uh sort of thing i do with efab mini right um audio you're looking at a little bit more in terms of second freedom um which is something you just have to kind of play with in test and if you can fuck enough with with uh what was the clip of the thing you were using then you might be able to get away with uh quite a lot of you know content but um it's all a matter of testing depending on the ip slash well whatever the content depending on which one you're using different rules apply and um they also have different levels of copyright attached it's a whole nightmarish system i haven't cracked it and i've been doing it for fucking ages when i started doing youtube videos i thought i had a good grasp on it and i still don't feel that way anymore it'd be nice if they had like youtube agents that could clear you as a creator um or at least every time you go to release a video they can approve of it themselves by watching it and being like yeah this is copyright cool it's a tough one what do you think is the biggest problem with the prequels lightsaber fights i think a lot of them are a bit dancy in that everyone is hitting their marks rather than trying to kill each other i think there's a couple of opportunities in different fights where if they did something uh obvious they could kill someone but it's nowhere near as bad as uh ze sick while typefights or mando for that matter and i typically quite like the uh the prequel fights and uh it would be neat to watch shad break some more of them down to be honest with you see what he comes up with doesn't blitz and translate to lightning in german i don't know is that right now lightning yeah yeah yeah yeah pretty much that's undblitzen i think blitz is more like a flash let me let me let me double check here for a second i know about the blitz blitz creak uh what is creak i'm sorry blitz creak oh it's it's it both checks out blitz and flash and lightning wait you're gucci you're correct neat you got approval from the gym and hey mo let's start watching you at the start of the year enjoying all what you do even had a little crush on your soothing sexy voice till i watched your webcams lol wow racism i'll admit my voice is better than my face all right i'm sorry um your dissect vids i don't know why but i just randomly thought of a random clip from the highlights where someone says why is why is malice face a moon i don't know context anymore oh shit which game was that i don't know what was funny that's right it was really funny uh your dissect vids are the best content i had in years would love to be a part of your team someday i don't really have a team mel's just like a pet and uh everyone on e-fab six guests silence pat i'll activate the tazer um and yeah i look forward to making more as time goes on and uh i'm glad you enjoy the stuff my dude more is all the way um i want to write an essay about how cosmonaut variety hour is wrong about everything in his bbs video tips about how to write a good video essay response essay oh gosh you know when i made the h bob the guy response i was just thinking throughout it like this is gonna be so fucking long is anyone even gonna watch it and i was fueled almost exclusively every time i lost any motivation by like no it has to be said has to be said um and i did not consume myself with sort of i don't know um molding what i was writing and presenting to any standard other than what i found to be consumable in video form so uh kind of how i make them all i don't have like it's kind of hard to give like general advice on how to respond in video essay with a video ass you know it's all very um i think splatter your thoughts onto a page and then try and form them and reform them and reform them until you you have a script it'll work out eventually trust me it'll it'll make itself you'll get them words down first because then you look at it again after a while and you're like ew i don't like how this works and you know what i think is a better idea if you put this word here and this word here and then it's already improved and now you start building a script without even necessarily realizing it also with one of you gonna say something there i don't i think i missed no i just want to say redraft that's one keyword it's the best i think before i released my genre video at like six or seven versions that are rendered and i watched them again it's like oh there's like a weird frame i want to change this and that i think i i recorded my whole genre video like twice because i always just like this doesn't sound right this is dumb and now look at it a glorious video yeah glorious are we gonna i'm gonna make the genre video public again on my other channel and see what happens nothing has been happening i uploaded already but there's no no problemo so far so i just i just should see what happens if i make it public again because i do want to put my genre two video and then it eventually comes out on there that would be nice yeah uh boop boop buy come light i don't know was that free either referring to maybe oh wait white light come light there you go it was it was white light feo has a sexy voice hey we take those we well i don't i'm not gonna take your voice don't worry oh give it to me give give uh for example pdb parker is animated at 24 fps while miles is at 12 fps until he gains confidence to be spider-man if this is used as evidence for why it would be considered eye cancer i thought it was pretty awesome as a detail actually so i don't know what to tell you me the ice block fine won't take it dude why did that ball you threw up when it's so fucking high and so quickly that looks super weird because the maps open as well i think never seen it go up so fast it's like uh doesn't like tcw doesn't like aot molla i really appreciate you entertaining the mentally handicapped they deserve love too cappa face oh my god rough why would you say that to me that's fucked up oh he was talking about the other one now not even you oh cringy go faster dammit come fight me lusa ice climbers uh plasma pistol yay or nay what do we think the plasma pistols everyone i can show ash or general i assume in general i don't know all right i guess i was in school or halo yeah oh i know that thing yeah i mean i'm i'm i'm cool with any other problem games or plasma pistols i mean if you play on nudge dairy pretty much a must so you can get rid of the shields all right there you go we we consider them necessary um and chat maybe have better answers because i i i just i don't know how to answer that an interesting way you know plasma pistols you know it's like they have they use you know yeah they can do they're they're plasma and a pistol like it's two things that's actually true yeah what you just said very true thanks man no problem man really good job keep up the good work yeah i'll try i'll try i'll try might even upgrade you from pat to slave you won't you're lying upgrade i don't know i don't think so i think i'd rather be a pat than a slave yeah one of them get me some getting same number of rights i'm getting fed as a pet uh cyberpunk 2077 has a new update warning it reserves 40 gigabytes worth of space for 1.5 gigabyte update it almost stopped my pc by leaving five gigabytes of free space okay is that do you think that's to account for the increasing save files because of the uh the thing they were talking about or no i don't know it sounds weird though deserving so much space for such a in comparison little update clearly they're fucking they're doing something evil yeah we should stop them how did that was true jane go oh good what's fun uh we're trying to do it again on sunday but that it's it's all dependent on j so if it doesn't happen we're just today actually so some some time today in theory hi rags and molar i've seen what you look like in old videos and i don't know what to do now oh also shout out to rub with 2k donation absolute king um oh 2k ruples uh yeah i'd fucking i have no idea how the conversions work or what they mean but of course thank you all very much uh by rags oh rags just left in the continuity we're catching up oh foo halo for i really love master chiefs usb adventures i've never played halo for is that on the is that on the massive collection by now i think it is right i do not rattle in it oh i haven't been paying attention to their releasing so i don't know why do i gotta fight b oz hey guys i'm gonna cheese bowser i'm gonna just only shoot medical things at him this is a this is commentary on uh the pharmaceutical industry oh you see it looks like i'm helping him but i'm really actually taking health away from him oh take the vaccine yeah take it yeah oh look look at that you're dying what's that i think it's surprisingly good amount of damage if i can drop the maximum tomato on him thanks game i think the game was like what are you doing you lay stop it i'm playing it the way it was intended mom great the one rags question i gave him and he goes to sleep tizms please make sure to read it out to him live next time long man will do collected all of the rag ones will be all right fuck off head thing bring it would you say that the relationship arc between chief and cortana and halo four is good in isolation of the previous games or is still bad regardless i'm gonna hang on to that one i really do hope that fringy should be in the next e-fap that we do live because it's probably gonna be a mandalorian one oh no the contradiction is that he didn't talk before and now that cortana is oh i think uh bringing red that one out the comments on the geeks and games videos are hilarious the mandalorian literally saves the shit out of star wars franchise i literally cried etc okay all right uh i have a pretty sure we don't stand clear about the mandalorian i don't know like yeah a lot of people are crying um a lot of people are upset in a good way it's really killed my dog how about that yeah they gave bowser a gun because i keep shooting him with pills it's like you need to shoot too the stupid dinosaur thing doesn't get to have a gun fucked up who you use what on him stop oh he's dead no he talks before he knows she's dying yeah he asked wish he is and what happened a good question when you've been in cryo for several years i like you fringy but your grasp in the straw is here referencing my older super chat about halo two fringy is wrong like with halo four they pretty much had to start from scratch so they really made it in 10 months okay never mind fringy's getting it correct now about halo two oh that was a ride emotional journey hell yeah more character than mando you're treating bowser and killing him with that excellent uh christ up and just released his mandalorian season two video he gave it an a-minus said bobba fat only talked to vader and fell in the salak pit okay so everyone who says that bobba fat didn't do anything has forgotten what happened in the ot that is all i can say to those people i'm sorry i mean i haven't seen the ot in forever but doesn't he bring in uh han no he just gets eaten by a the san vagina that's all that happens so i guess i'm correct okay um best sports movies rocky four rocky knocks out dirty commies fringold say the line i mean he said no whole bunch an absolute whole bump since i've already upset to efab hosts i guess i might as well go for the trifecta more your opinions about avatar trash oh how will he recover i mean i i i'm sure i'll survive um do you sure wait screw it might as well get all the metal jomik 2 is better than you'll ever be excuse me well it's better than you'll ever be mel how do you feel i feel that's a lie i'm just glad we can all agree that atla had a shit ending yeah yeah i don't even wrote it i think they're like a big fight and something happened after they gave hang of an out they committed to one question throughout like the three seasons and then at the end they were like well no it's like okay i would watch kirby reviews moley you're welsh do you know about the chronicles of predain it's a children's fantasy series based on welsh legend and mythology the black cauldron movie by disney is based on the first few books is pretty different from the books oh that's pretty neat uh no i do not know about that or rather did not know about that now i do now one of my favorite quotes of the year we thought we thought dartsy it was bob yeah uh we had that a bunch ah well i've been trying to what oh we did the we did the buffy one um stick it on you know watch buffy with a friend that might help talk about the silly things and then talk also about how you were promised it gets better and to try and you know look out for how it might be improving because i will say it does help if i'm watching it with people and i like just just ask so like you start season three and it's like hey look the direction is already way better especially in an um the all the characters are pretty damn focused at this point oh look a plot line that wasn't garbage oh uh lots of drama already based on everything that's happened in the prior seasons man uh and then you watch a couple of season episodes in season three it's like hey do you think any of these have been bad yet and people usually like no guys you're almost there now the show is almost really good get excited no you said you're almost there while watching through it yeah well you could tell all i'm thinking about when people watching buffy are getting to the good shit it's season six it's just like oh get there and what's fun for you theos there's plenty in season seven that i'm also thinking about and then all of age or season five which you're gonna love i might go just to spite you see that's the thing i'm not even half like i get worried that people might not like buffy season six but there's just no question everyone likes angel season five it's just so fucking awesome there's some stuff that you're probably thinking about it in the way of like it's just gonna be what you've seen before with these other seasons but well written which isn't a bad thing or anything but there's some stuff you're not gonna see coming at all uh i'd say there's there's three key things that are gonna gonna gonna just just from the get go make you go whoa you ready to emote here because you're gonna i'll have to try i'm so excited to hear you say whoa wow whoa wow i know theo has seen the tizm new clone wars but has he seen the chat 2003 clone wars made by the creator of samurai jack oh yeah does he have i got to this one yes i have and it is fun it is fun i've been enjoying the mando season two coverage can't wait to see the reaction episode seven and eight also rlm boba vid in latest vid was great yeah i think out of all of our mando coverage i think episode six is probably my favorite that one was not only funny but i think those last two videos that we watch back to back kind of just summed up the experience of watching mando and not getting sucked in by the nostalgia it's funny to watch everyone else praise the shit out of the show when you're just sitting there like clap because boba fat you know weird but okay um the episode seven coverage is also pretty happy and fun shad is there we have lots of lots of exciting responses we have all kinds of references good shit i'm a little bit worried about the episode eight coverage because it's kind of dowa we're not happy that this is what star was going to be dude i was i was so tired after watching this yeah and we we struggled to like commentate after it finished because we were just like well what is there even to say before we saw us like they're in a good mood it was like yay finally vacation i'm going to get really drunk and everything's going to be fucking amazing and then the episode finished and i just wanted to lie down and sleep i wanted life to stop why to stop but uh remember star wars i remember star wars i share fring and mootles crash bandicoot rage especially for yeah i think that's fair crash can definitely make you i was playing uh the first one on the insane trilogy i mean this stuff that can enrage in all of crash to be honest you know it's video games to a degree oh yeah especially when you're playing the clunkier one being the first yeah yeah suck a punch efat movie just for shits and giggles um i am on the board with that was that the weird thing with the with the girl so whatever or when yeah it's a bunch of girls in like a mental asylum who dream that they are warriors who battle giant creatures and weird adventures i really can't say more than that because i don't i i think i saw it in a movie like fucking ages ago don't remember shit how are they not tired if i did a stream this long i would immediately sleep after the two hours of stream i'm very hungry and tired you're not tired uh i don't mean to brag but it feels like coat season so let's talk about coats how do you feel about the coat fashion in cyberpunk 2077 hashtag coats so not a fashion person i like coats but only in a utility sense and i'm gonna save that question for when i can speak with rags maybe he says more about coats because i don't have anything to say about coats i can be excited to go about my day to day life as this guy is to talk about coats i wish i had that kind of enthusiasm mel you have things to say about coats right not really i had coats back in the day i had one coat the day which i got my name from i told that story today so i'm not gonna reply uh not gonna say it again your name comes from a coat that's pretty lame dude i had like a military style coat you know that fuck you i've never ever seen you wear a coat in my entire life and it's offensively you're dead coats are kind of gay i mean great hey wait a minute that's what did you just say um still working on tizm war episode one looks to be 30 to 45 minutes long 10 episodes planned of season one ost currently one hour and 18 minutes other songs will be copyright thoughts i have no idea what you're crafting i hope it's not a nightmare for you and the you end up like sad with our possible reaction to whatever it is you're cooking but good luck and i hope it goes well i i have no idea what the tizm war is i think we watched a trailer for it um i don't know what's gonna happen hey theo you watched digimon at all if you do what do you think about the new adventure remake the first series that's airing right now i do not i'm afraid so i have nothing to comment i watched digimon a lot back in all anime though what the fuck i yeah i had connoisseur i had to connoisseur means doer of all i had always ost cd's but the german version just probably is still bad but yeah i was a big fan i don't remember shit about it though because it was digital monsters digimon gay yeah because they they like to to translate all the osts to german lyrics and back as a dumbo child i liked it i think if i would let's do it today i was like cringe i don't think you're cringe now that's not what i said but i appreciate it but i mean it's true no stop stop hitting me metroid don't die early in life is oh wait can i get a motivational quote from you um don't touch the flangas for the dangas otherwise you die redraft that's it i'm not really motivated like redraft how does that really like what if i'm trying to redraft i'm not mode redraft okay fine i guess um a longer quote would just be the same thing but the e is like many millions of ease i think like over a rock on when you head outside on your way to work and then you just say redraft and then get back up and go back into your house and come back out a few minutes later you could probably make some kind of beat out of it you know just redraft redraft and you have to get it in your head and then you'll know what my quote is and it is to redraft like we wouldn't be in this mess if ryan johnson knew what redrafting was true uh don't die early in life there's your motivational quote yeah don't die early in life good quote look up the song don't be rama rama hey mel can you look up the song don't be rama rama i guess i'll i'll regret it but sure uh don't be rama rama or rana rana rama rama rama rama don't be rama by warburton community members okay this is a nightcore version i fucking hate nightcore i thought you love nightcore when you say how much you love nightcore was it oh wait was that's when you didn't want you have to know he doesn't like it at all guys fuck that shit i hate it so much too i was clicked intro to the says don't smell petrol from a can okay don't smell petrol from a can that's some good advice i will say that is good advice but uh metroid i don't know what i'm listening to right now this is so weird what is the meme is it is it just weird lyrics i think the meme is that you don't smell petrol from a can and then it goes into your car okay that's right and then it says don't be rama rama and sniff it up your nose well all right yeah words to live by i guess rama rama is someone who sniffs petrol up their nose i i will say this narrative is confusing but no impossible to follow um i love blind mana but one question how exactly does pete learn the special possession words and how it all works through other ghost memories um so how to work the ghost mechanics would have been something he would just figure out eventually on his own the specific words i don't think they have to be those specific words it was more the concept of uh give yourself over grant permission that sort of thing um the words being the same i don't think it's like a spell or anything with those specific words yeah and i think he i think he disappears for like a for x amount of time i don't know if he specified the time but it's like yeah i i was gone because i was trying to figure out how the fuck this shit even works yeah how to make you able to see me you went to ghost school yep yeah today class we're going to learn how to spook someone so that they drop a turd right there then yeah lesson number five of ten of this subject the use of spicy foods i like spicy food better call soul was surprisingly very good i've only heard good things i watched the first two seasons i think and thought they were fine in fact i quite like season one don't try to well i don't see how that's my fault metal why do you keep blaming me because you always say no don't watch this we gotta watch buffy you someday so you can watch anything no i always ask us to watch mando because it's fucking great i cried uh i cry i cry every team i so very creepy i create i put water on chic with my bottle of water i was very sad hey at zack gilbert why do you hate at vot trees takes surely a series as long as that has massive problems especially with supposed titans of the show david john behind it oh my god i guess that's their battle to have he must have responded in chat i don't know did you read my rock star syndrome super chat i think i missed it sorry guys also hey metal um yeah just the fact that the game is clearly suffering from trying to be like rock star i agree wait which one uh cyberpunk i wish i hadn't asked now i'm confused so cyberpunk is suffering from rock star syndrome as in it's trying to be like rock star games in that it's trying to be like gta how is that difficult nobody remembers that game i don't know it's five i am to be alone it is late i am true that makes so much more sad did you read oh uh more money to not play weave game even more money to play weave game what is it with you people please don't weave more you're actually cool bro don't worry i've not succumbed to the weed i am not like these fools you see before you hey and besides even if i did succumb to the weed you'd still have rags you will never succumb to the weed raggulon is immune to such a delivery she gotta pivot your identity around hitting anime will power to you bro wow he's gonna super chat that you're an asshole let's just wait for it dude look at the way i just killed fox neither of us a deletive damage from what i at least i didn't think we did wait what i was just like five well you had to be at 22 percent well it was explosive right here fucking straight dude stop deflecting it you ask let me grab him okay uh play it oh god hey moodle remember imaginary space in gurun lagan gurun lagann i still love the show even when they get to the point of chucking galaxies of people dude gurun lagann i if you would look at it objectively i don't know if it would hold up at all and you know how you would do it like i remember like at some point someone says yeah we need to do a what was shooting us time swap attack i was like what the fuck are they talking about they're like kick reason i mean like kick reason to the curve is like a tagline of the show so oh yeah yeah you're just in there for the ride like it it starts it starts so so casually it's like oh like it's two guys they're gonna break out of that thing and then they they beat some king i was like oh yeah okay and then all of a sudden there's like a little time time jump and like okay we go to space now and galaxies and jakes i was like whoa shit what is happening i love it galaxy shuriken bring it on and all of a sudden the fucking moon is a mecca is like what the fuck i mean that does sound like it makes sense with what we know about the moon at least i think i know right yeah the moon is a mecca but yeah it's it's it's it's awesome i fucking love it it's just so insane but is it as crazy as jingle all the way and be honest oh wait way more crazy booh arnie tried so hard to make that movie crazy and just give it to some anime feel bad for that man just fell off the map like it's like oh yeah you're as strong as you will is so basically they have like no limits told you could eat my cookies spiral out of a drug thanks for the show three months in all caught up you you watched all of efeb in three months i'm assuming that's what that means i'll congratulations i don't even know that was is that possible because that means you'd have to have it pretty much constantly playing while you're awake to get it done in three months right something like that i think so because we're gearing up to like a month and a half or more now in time so wow excellent i'm glad you enjoyed it for drivas uh is theo a cute trap asking for a friend well theo i'm not even gonna respond to that's a yes i didn't think you would actually just let it slip so easily but all right oh great cool yeah kind of pretty there's good cringe bro you're trading bowser and you're killing it with debt i still like that it's just good i was like oh my god thank you so much for the treatment you're like yeah yeah yeah um so how you paying for all this he's like huh you're like well you know well like i can just you know materialize these pills from thin air or anything okay what are you doing 17 times i'm talking about i literally watched you it's like no no that cost magic juice and i have to buy more are you gonna pay for it bowser i thought no i'm the bad guy okay four i can afford castles but that's not the same who knew that the past week sees cd project rad lose all its good will so quickly not just the cyberpunk console debacle but the banning devotion from gog after spamming input from chinese bots yeah they're not in a great place right now reputation wise and this will mar them forever um people aren't gonna forget this one i don't think whether or not they can correct you know the mistake be one of those things learn to use the weebside of the force the power to save misato asuka and re right is it possible to learn this power not from a shinji it doesn't even make sense to you no that's uh it's like i imagine if someone said like a sentence that just had Darth Vader luke's go like just star wars names slapped in it randomly that'd be ah that's now i understand it completely yeah well yeah i'll just translate everything to star wars every time this comes up stay with mola thank you for not succumbing to the weeb here's some money give some to rag it's to and tell him hello i will tell paying you for it well yeah i mean i guess i don't want to anime have some money well the other ones pay me to watch anime what the fuck what do i do i'm trapped wait can you watch anime oh shit imagine it up again i don't think you're an a-hole theo mostly just joking oh he thinks you're an a-hole i appreciate that but you're wrong i am how dare you so that i'm a nice guy um i just don't like how pretentious he is about the clone wars i don't i don't wouldn't describe the theo you could say he's an asshole about the clone wars but pretentious i'm absolutely an asshole about the clone wars because i really hate it the i don't know if i'm pretentious about it yeah i just i wouldn't use that way to describe your attitude toward the clone wars that's all uh not knowing subtlety it's bad because it doesn't wrap themes up in five layers of subtext i don't think that's what his references were from what i remember but um fuck me and i will say that i prefer a little bit of subtlety in my themes just saying just the not complete subtlety okay before but you know i don't think that woman's not very subtle he goes that is true the main thing is it's allergic to nuance wait did you just imply it's allergic to having a brain yes wow he's going to send that super chest saying here's why take more money to make theo stop watching anime oh you're just watching anime i'm sorry it's all well it was a it was a fun ride theo but i mean it was a good run but i yeah it's out of my hands now clearly i'm sorry i wish i could do something to prevent this but yeah i just only have so much power um and that's it i don't understand we started earlier than usual super chats and yet it's a nine hour episode uh okay i think we went on some tangents a few times this has been a weird e-fucks it does feel like it was ages ago that we had this e-fat we talked about cyberpunk with cj white light and tonal that yeah feels feels weird man um so what's what's happening with with stuff we got crimson's on the way the um if i can get our episode seven coverage completed biff episode eight coverage completed before uh wednesday or at least in a in a stable position by wednesday i'll release the bilbir episode on wednesday an episode eight on crimson's day but i don't think i'm gonna be able to get it done by then because i've got to edit something else as well uh for crimbus which would be e-fap no 116 uh we recorded it already we get some we have some fun we talk about jingle all the way we do um some games and uh we catch up on some super chats uh the the guests are jay metal rouges chase moriarty is there anyone else i or am i blanking i think that was it i don't i think that's it i'm sorry if you missed someone yeah sorry if we did and there's there's memes there's some memes i look forward to you guys discovering wet bread this is gonna be good that was a sentence well i'll tell you about it at the end of this stream Theo but chat i'm gonna have to wait until crimbus day so yeah the way it's gonna work guys christmas day we will be premiering the e-fap movies quite early for jingle all the way you're gonna get that straight up real christmas nice then you'll have the e-fap premiere on mula for the for like the mid to late day and if i have mandalorian done by then i will also premiere that after the e-fap i think i don't really know it's it's complicated those things are happening um it's been a nightmare getting all of the editing done for each of those episodes as fast as possible um and they've they've taken up my days a tad but i'm still looking to work on the boys with every moment that i have for fruit um and then of course e-fap so next week the e-fap will be coming out not live and we've still got the meme fap recorded um right yeah yeah so that'll be coming out in january at some point and it'll probably be to fill in for a week where we can record some more e-fap movies be it for Wonder Woman 2 or uh Monster Hunter because we gotta do that as well um and rags is chipping away as well that is mandalorian video we've got this it's it's been a pretty good time with lots of stuff happening lots of fun tisms and uh i realize a few more messages have come in una momento por favor go and the reason why i'm not playing metroid some people have asked is because the continuity of metroid continues in the christmas episode you need to see my like six hours of metroid gameplay before i continue playing metroid so right yeah yeah i remember so i've been playing smash as my game to fill in until metroid is back on the table yo uh it's moosh it's moosh of course the supers that were for rags i've gotten a little a little notepad right here i'm gonna get it to whenever we do whatever it is that we do and all right where's the asshole there it is take a moment mando made the disney fanatical star was universe real kind of yeah really really did allergic to nuance okay seat theo that's the crap i'm talking about oh damn so i think what theo means usually is that they don't have um very detailed or or balanced takes on topics they're usually going to be pretty quick and pretty one-sided is that is that what you mean uh more or less it's the like in terms of any position where there could be a moral dilemma there is a hard pivot away from like the ambiguity any sense of ambiguity with it yeah it it's very much there is a very strong pivot into this one side is correct never is allowed to remain ambiguous like who might be in the right in a given situation or a dilemma that the show puts forward hence allergic to nuance it's like they're worried that children will get the idea that things aren't black and white i don't know um also did heitop really just tweet out he's sorry to the people who think he's objectively wrong he's got a he fucking says it in his daredevil video that people are objectively wrong if they think the daredevil is boring do you guys know about that i don't know i'm pretty sure sounds like a cool thing to say well it's the thing i remember showing it on one of the e-faps because i was really surprised i was like oh okay because i remember uh fringy and i were watching it because we were like oh you know daredevil was a decent show let's see what he has to say about it and fucking like the opening he's like you're allowed your opinions but if you say it's boring no no you are objectively wrong it's like uh it's awkward because of course if someone told me they found anything boring i'd be like yeah i mean you know that's kind of how humans work so turns out we all get entertained and bored by different things for example some people find uh nine and a half hour streams where people are chatting about something boring i don't understand why these people exist but hey probably shouldn't be allowed to exist yeah you cringe lords well we're trying to get something done about it um you know like with uh with science but like i don't know how far we've come with that yet with science the scientists are gonna make e-fap more viable hey Theo you recommended baka monogatari that's probably not how you pronounce that at all to me a year ago on discord just letting you know i still haven't watched it yet that is all you just don't watch it don't watch it i am never um no i am done recommending that show and burned too many times oh have you tried watching it with people to help them through it sort of thing i have watched it with people to great success because then i can pick out people i know can be trusted and yeah and you know help guide them through it but mostly just know that they can be trusted uh wonder woman when uh so it needs to be hasn't been edited yet that's the other project i've got to do uh das and i might try and fix it so that he edits wonder woman one and i edit wonder woman two or vice versa so we can try and get them done and plug them together and you guys can have a wonderful adventure of watching us watch both wonder womans um so yeah on the way uh are you gonna do a new year's stream probably uh we did it last year um we'll probably play some video games invite a bunch of people chill you know and celebrate ringing in the newest of the years fuck you 2020 it's like a rotten dish uh theo you are a b-hole smiley face i don't know what's a bottle a language is that in language assassin self cantonese no what language is that in i don't know something terrifying if i'm a jay jay my jay um also can i just upload this now hang on stream i hope it doesn't lag you too much but i if you guys mind watching because i made a clip for fringy once upon a time i'm gonna tweet this out if it's the right clip so if you guys can watch that while i'm saying goodbye to stream which i'll do right now thank you all so much for watching thank you all for the very kind donations thanks all the guests for hanging out as long as you did this good shit and um and cyberpunk is not as as as pleasurable as we would have liked it to be but what are you gonna do um i hope you had fun and we'll see you on crimbous day while we're all actually not even there oh boy actually i'm i'm probably gonna stream on the 24th and 25th and evenings because i only i'm only busy in the on the daytime so you all want some company i'm gonna be streaming on over on the on the twatch most likely so go watch come chill on it i'll do the strumblings yeah just probably just hang out do some tizms i don't know if anyone else is gonna be around maybe it's just me i don't i i have no plans i'm just gonna be gonna be live because i'm just at home after i did the family tizms well there you go you're all invited to hang out go hang all about a little crib as if you're not doing nothing okay poor metal is just a table how fucking dare you um so yeah anything else you guys want to say before we uh from bow uh no just i'm not working my on my new highlights uh from the whole year which is a lot of clips and next i'm gonna do the genre 2 video it's it's happening i'm going i'm going back to it i'm excited mary cringles to you all yeah yeah mary cringles mary cringles see you play manner is good so true