 Hello everyone, welcome to another video. Just thought I'd do a video to address this For like the fourth dozen time I've addressed this since I've been an activist now It's the issue of people claiming that vegans are sending them death threats now. It's usually via some anonymous email It's usually via some Untraceable Message from a fake account some faceless account, you know the reason I'm talking about this is because this guy Isaac Butterfield went to his Instagram and he's posted this and it goes on to say some pretty hectic things and look at the Look at the name vegan militant. Who calls himself that vegan militant and then sends, you know Just very I'm just very suspicious of these emails. It's very very convenient, isn't it? And then he goes he says all this stuff like you deserve death and you know, you ain't fun You ain't funny you put you kill yourself with a firearm blah blah blah if Joey Carpstrong met you in person He could kick your ass like who is this? I'm not asking anyone to do this on my behalf So whoever you are piss off. I don't want you sending shit like this to anyone on my behalf You know, why do you think this is productive and is it even a vegan anyway? and then and then he goes on to say in In quotations, why do you pick on vegans? They are nice people. Oh really? Oh really so by your logic Isaac mate This is this is probably one of the worst the worst Comments I've ever got I'm gonna show you this one after this one actually so this is one I got recently This was on Tuesday. All right, so two days ago 147 p.m. Pm. Listen here. I'll chop you up into little pieces bag you up and send you send your ass To your parents you stupid see we need to genocide your kind of people So here we go. This guy's calling for the genocide of my kind of people now. What is what is he talking about? I mean I'm Italian. I'm a vegan what what what kind of people is he talking about now? He's calling for the genocide. So here's Isaac's Quotations here. Why do you pick on vegans? They are nice people. Well, why do you pick pick on meat eaters? They are nice people. So so what are you saying that we like I actually condone this type of behavior I condone these type of threats to you mate So by that logic if I'm responsible for every email you get sent on the internet Then you're responsible for every message that I get sent here telling they're gonna chop me up into pieces and send Me to my parents and they want to genocide us is that is that right like you're responsible for this too Or can we just say it's the internet and we can't control what people send to us Yeah, we can't control what these idiots are sending to either of us and you know, there's idiots on both sides Okay, there's just idiots on the internet. There's just generally idiots and I don't know if this guy is even a vegan So why use it? You know, you're just using cheap little, you know pathetic Excuses to try to attack vegans mate. All right. It just looks pathetic. Here's one here This one here is probably the all-time Most disgusting message I've ever seen on the internet and it was on Facebook and I screen-capped it It was a while back and this was just after the shootings that happened were those innocent people were shot dead in the mosque It's a shame that nutter in New Zealand didn't have it in for protesting vegans instead of innocent Muslims What do you think of that about that Isaac you got to make a video about that, huh? Do you think that that's okay? Do you think that's okay that someone here is calling for the mass shooting of vegans and this is another guy Calling for the genocide of vegans a Holocaust of vegans. What do you think about that? You're gonna make some comedy about that mate So, you know, I'm not gonna use these comments against someone like Isaac in a debate because they're Irrelevant to the debate we're having on on ethics. These are just like ad hominems. These are just distractions These are just really distractions from the point. This has got nothing to do with the debate on the ethics of animal agriculture Now, I know that Isaac's not interested in having a debate. He's just interested in trying to make vegans look bad at whatever cost He can he thinks he's white knight and now I I have addressed these death threats many times and condemn them I condemn the death threats on television on national TV in front of millions of people Fused those words that farmers Can be compared to rapists, okay So I want to I want to just publicly say that I condemn any death threats and any name-calling That's not the way I advocate the first time I address had to address this was when this lady here a Welsh farm I think she was from Wales Said this Of course you you do get death threats Which is quite ironic coming from people that want peace for animals quite ironic for people who want peace for animals Now she was playing the same game here trying to like victimize herself to the degree that I ended up turning out to be Absolute nonsense because death threat farmer admits I've not had people making specific threats towards me So she retracted her claim this lady. She retracted her claim. So I ended up being a load of crap Here's her here's her exact quote I've not had people make specific death threats towards me But I certainly know people who have received really horrible threats just for being farmers now whatever Whatever that it could be true. I mean I'm look at the look at the threats I receive You know, I'm going to chop you up into pieces and send you to your parents and maybe you'll maybe though that mass shooting should have happened to Vegan so it probably is true. They are getting some messages, but who are they from I don't know who these are they 11-year-old kids Who knows they're not legitimate. That's what I'm trying to say here. Here we go the telegraph I remember this farmers live in fear with death threats from violent vegan activists I remember addressing this in a video while back to I mean if you look at all of these Newspaper articles that's a face of me and saying that vegans want to murder farmers and all of these things that the media do to try to get a Good story. I want to publicly Say that I condemn Any death threats from either side? Okay, if we just look through my Facebook inbox I could show you many death threats coming from non-vegans and farmers saying they're gonna slit my throat and all of that Now there was newspaper article after newspaper article joey carb strong death threats to farmers saying that I'm threatening farmers Mate, I've done nothing but condemn threats to farmers. So Anyway, this is this is just the logic of someone trying to make he's used trying to use this as an argument It's not an argument mate. You clutching at straws here like otherwise. I could use Any I could use the same argument against you. You're responsible for all the threats I get to hey all me eaters are like this They want they want to chop me up and put some send me to my I'm sure my mum would like to see this message Someone wants to chop me up and put me in a bag because I'm defending animals Hmm, I don't agree with threats on either side now You haven't you haven't said you condemn threats towards vegans. Have you I condemn any threat towards you now Not only does Isaac not condemn threats towards vegans He actually encourages hate towards vegans on his page roses red violets are blue I hate vegans like if you hate them to top comment on his last video now Imagine if this comment said I hate black people like if you hate them, too I hate women like if you hate them, too I hate Muslims like if you hate them, too I hate gay people like if you hate them, too Why is it that vegans are such fair game? But if it was a vegan with a large platform saying this about farmers, oh, there'd be public outrage But why is it fair game to you know? Propagate hate against vegans and you're talking about the whole vegan community women and children and families and You know, you're propagating hate to all of them or is it just the ones that you know that you feel a militant I mean, you're talking about a whole community of different people here, especially when we've got People calling for mass shootings and genocides of vegans in my comment section Do you think this is really okay to propagate this type of hate? In fact, if I hear of anyone sending you crap like this, I'd tell them to their face They're just a f***ing idiot I don't want to be associated with someone who goes if joey carves strong met you in person He could kick your arse. Well, what are you talking about mate? Why are you speaking on my behalf? I don't I wouldn't punch ours out in their head if I met him I would have a conversation with him. He's doing this shit for public comedy If I met him in real life, I'd sit down and chat with him about it You know my punching people in the face for no reason days are over I mean, I don't claim to be a pacifist I wouldn't let someone attack my family and sit there and just kneel over while someone attacked me Of course, I would defend myself and have a news violent force if I had to but not over a debate on ethics Not over something like this. I wouldn't I would I'd have a conversation with someone So whoever this is thinking they're speaking on behalf of me I don't even know if this is a real person to be honest with you And that's the thing we cannot we can never say whether it's a real person or not Can we so if we're gonna be level-headed about this we should just say hey We're on the internet and he knows this is that guy's probably not the first the first idiot comment He's got already at email. He's got from other topics He's probably got it from speaking up against other political issues too and other issues And he's probably got mountains of threats and stupid comments about him and his family and threats and all this nonsense But because you know, it's a debate. He can't really win You know because he's trying to justify the worst abuse on the earth He's using this little stuff on his instant 32,000 likes people buy into this crap People buy into this crap. What about this one mate? Have you ever got one like that? Imagine if a vegan or even a fake vegan account put this up It's a shame that Nutter in New Zealand didn't do it to protesting vegans Imagine that people who are trying to make the world better people are trying to stop animal cruelty I mean how sad how sick and twisted so yeah guys If if you are a vegan don't participate in this shit it doesn't it's not productive and if you have evidence of an individual doing it like you can identify them That's a different story, but if it's a fake account, what are you gonna do? What are you gonna say? I mean, I could say that I could make up things and go. Oh, you know, yeah, this is this is Isaac himself He's just made a fake account like it's just a claim. It's just a claim if you can't prove it So anyway, that's me addressing that and I haven't gotten a response back from Isaac Butterfield yet to my video I made about him if you would like to look at the response video to Isaac. It's down below I don't know if he'll make a response. Maybe he will maybe he won't maybe he's taken a bit of time Maybe he's doing a bit of research before he responds back to me. Don't know. I'll be very interested to see what he says though otherwise Keep it sensible guys. Keep it rational and stay vegan. Peace. Joey Carb Strong is a fucking idiot