 Yeah, so usually I would say that we start with cricket, love the cricket, but it wasn't a love the night for West Indies fans at all as the Caribbean side was whitewashed by Australia after losing the third and final one day international by eight wickets in the Aussie capital of Canberra early on Tuesday morning, Caribbean time. Gerard Marsili has the recap of the shortest men's ODI ever played in Australia. West Indies put into bat in the first match at Manuka Oval in Canberra since the COVID-19 pandemic, but the line-up was about to be infected. Keon Ottley hit two-fours to get to the end and started, but he didn't last long. The left-hander first to go, a judged LBW, although replay showed a huge inside edge. Shockingly though, there was no review. The lead and run scorer in the series, Casey Cartey was undone by Marna Slade-Shane's brilliance at points, the 26-year-old gone for ten, and the Wendy slipped a three for 43 when Shea Hope was struck in front by Sean Abbott, the Wendy skipper going to the review but without success, and the decline continued when debutante Teddy Bishop was cleaned up for a duck by Lance Morris. Alec Anthony stopped scored with 32 before falling to Adam Zamper at five for 71. The beginnings got progressively worse with moments like this. West Indies losing their last five wickets for 15 runs, spearheaded by 4 for 21 from player of the series Xavier Bartlett to be dismissed for 86. Australia needed little time to get the chase over with. Josh English and Jake Fraser McGurk were on a rampage from the first over. The peer shared a 67 run stand of 26 deliveries, Fraser McGurk led with 41, while English had 35. West Indies did manage to get two wickets, but not even that could bring positivity to the Caribbean side. Australia reaching the target inside seven overs, ending on two for 87 to seal the series 3-0. They'll come back for a couple and Australia destroy. They dominate the West Indies, they win it by eight wickets with 259 balls remaining. Jay, how do you make sense of a game like that today? I'm not sure if you can, to be fair, but like I said previously, our batting lettuce done. We can sort out for the entire series, we need to do some real searching, understand what's needed in certain conditions, but yeah, we didn't bat as well as we could have in the series, I'm not sure. It's been a good opportunity to expose a few of the players to international cricket and they've showed that they can perform at this level. You know, I thought Xavier the way he swung the new ball was outstanding, Lance came in today before he hurt himself and bowled really nicely, so it was nice to see a couple of the guys play really well. Yeah let me just be absolutely clear, it was a one day international and not a T20 international that the West Indies and Australia played in Canberra this morning, the match finishing in 31 overs, three hours, including the innings break. Yeah, it was a disappointing performance from the Caribbean side, especially with the bat. Lance and Mariah, how do you make sense of this because Shea Hope can't? Well I was going to be my response to you, whatever question you asked me I was going to be like Ricardo, if Shea Hope the skipper can't make sense of what happened, how do you expect me as a you know sitting here as an analyst to make sense of that? They went into bat first, of course they were unable to battle the 50 overs, something that has been you know glaring throughout this entire ODI series, something that has really troubled us here on the sports max zone. So from inception we were already set up for failure. You know I did a count of how many players ended with single digit scores, that was eight players, the number of players walking away with docks, that would be four players Ricardo, and to me I think the batting score line tells a story of its own and to me I cannot sit here and understand how you train and you practice and you go out there and I get it, we're up against mighty Australia. But to not even be able to get off the mark is a bit worrying and then you get the opportunity and you're unable to capitalize on that start again really really worrying and you know Lance was joking when I said we need to have a serious discussion about it because we have spoken about this for quite some time and today I sit here and we're embarrassed. Yeah a tough pill to swallow here for this West Indies team and we have to remind ourselves that this is not the strongest Australia team either so the depth of the Australian cricket is highlighting the bottom of the barrel kind of stuff that is coming out of the West Indies and to be fair we have struggled in whiteball cricket for a long time so you know while last night's shocking loss was tough to digest it's not the first time that we've had embarrassing losses in ODI cricket or ODI game for many many years has been poor and I'm not sure how Darren Sammy is going to fix this because the team just isn't applying itself in the way that you would expect an international team to do and I know that they're struggling for quality that has been a part of the West Indies issues for four decades now but there are players in here with some some ability that they can build on and Darren Sammy just has to to get that out of them and I just want to add that the analysis stops the debating because we can't even judge the bowlers Ricardo based on the score line that they were given to work with I feel like we cannot sit here and analyze the bowlers because what are we gonna say yeah well here's what I would say none of this surprises me Lance I think you hit the nail on the head the worst format for the West Indies for a long time now has been 50 over cricket that's right I don't think we understand generally how to play the format I think from time to time we have shown progress in test cricket there is a lot of quality that we have in T20 international cricket for obvious reasons but that middle format the 50 over game we have struggled you think about from the 2015 World Cup we got to the quarterfinals but barely and had a defeat to Ireland in the first round 2019 World Cup we barely got there had to go through qualifying and ended up at the bottom of the tree we didn't qualify for last year's World Cup we will not be at the champions trophy in 2025 so if you look at what has happened in the last 10 years it tells you that we have a problem with 50 over cricket now there is a new director of cricket in place there is a new coach in place in Darren Sammy still what six to eight months in his tenure as a head coach and together it is obvious to me that they are trying things to help this 50 over team to develop and importantly we have to give that time I do believe though that in this process especially because you are not always going to have your very best players like we don't in in this series I'm rather foot who showed so much promise against England is not here Brandon King is not part of this and a lot of been invested in him at the top of the order for West Indies he is not here either and so you have a number of young or new players in the side even if they are not quite young because you're not these 33 years old nothing young about that and we've pointed out that we feel that someone like Darren Bravo should have been part of the England series and if he was then he would have been part of the series as well but I think these performances especially against quality like Australia will happen from time to time in the development rebuilding process what I will judge the likes of Darren Sammy and Mr. Bascom on is the regularity with which these performances happen as the team continues to develop and move forward so if in another year we are still seeing performances like this then I will say well what's going on Darren Sammy what's going on Mr. Bascom something here isn't right but I do believe that we cannot be too surprised that these performances are happening now given the team that is in Australia and given the fact that Australia are world champions and although they don't have their best bowling line-up Lance and Lurio it is still a high quality bowling line-up you're talking about players who have shown a lot of promise to have played a lot of cricket in Australia which is a very high quality both their list stay and the first class tournaments are of the highest quality and so when they come through and play international cricket they come ready which is not what you can see of the West Indies players all the time so not that I'm taking up for the West Indies but this defeat does not surprise me and I will say patience and give Darren Sammy and the new director of cricket Mars Bascom time to see if the measures that they have put in place to have this team improve heading into the next World Cup will actually bear fruit but if in a year a year and a half or two it's not then yeah I'm gonna be coming for you guys yeah I just think the disappointment is heightened mainly because of we're coming off of that high from the second test win but what's new Mariah we've we spoke with Fuzz about this last week yes we've had so many highs in West Indies cricket from time to time and then what happens we go right back to where we are now mind you formats are different and that's why I wanted to make the distinction because I think we've been especially poor yeah in 50 over cricket I truly don't think we've been all that bad in test cricket and when we have our best players I think we have been very good in T20 cricket but in 50 over cricket it almost hasn't mattered who we have I just think we don't know how to play the format yeah and you touched on it earlier Ricardo and it's worth reminding our viewers that the 2019 World Cup qualifying that we played in Zimbabwe I think it was yes the West Indies barely qualified barely qualified for the world cup so when we didn't qualify for the next time it was an empowering decision that pushed the West Indies through yeah and it was reasonable to think that because of what actually happened on the day so I'm saying that when we didn't qualify for the next World Cup it wasn't shocking because the writing was on the wall and we're talking upwards of six years that the West Indies team has been playing really really poor 50 over cricket so what we saw last night is sort of a reflection of what we've been seeing for a long time here's what I want to say quickly as well I think the one-day international batting lineup looks too different from the test batting lineup in my humble opinion and I am not a cricket coach I am not director of cricket but I would like to think that your one-day international lineup should be a closer reflection of your test lineup than it should be a reflection of your T20 line-up especially because we cannot battle the number of overs it is part of the reason why we can't bat 50 overs correct because majority of the players we have are not accustomed to batting 50 overs they're accustomed to batting 20 over well they're accustomed to batting 6 to 7 of the 20 overs and you can score a quick 30 a quick 40 and that impacts a T20 game in a serious way it does not impact a one-day international game in the same way and and let me also say this quickly Shay Ho in this series to me appeared more aggressive than I have seen him before and I would personally like to say that's not what I want from Shay Ho especially when the rest of the team is being dismissed for single digits there we need him to anchor I much prefer Shay Ho striking in the mid 70s 80s and batting through the innings and we get closer to 50 overs than Shay Hope getting out within the first 15 overs and we're all out for 86 yeah the only good thing about last night's game for me was that Athene's got 62 he batted 60 odd balls and top school with 32 I am saying that because I'm sorry to laugh I know I understand why you would laugh but I'm just saying that I like Athene's I think Athene has a bright future in West Indies cricket so the fact that he got 30 odd last night and hung in there for 60 odd balls to me is an indication that he was willing to apply himself especially because of what happened with him before yet to the job last night so I am encouraged by that but that's just a drop in the bucket yeah very big one the game the one game he decides to step up everybody decides to not show up well step up might be putting it strongly team he didn't perform in all of the matches before what he got 32 can we get a break yes we can water break time of one there was no water break last night was there