 On boss talk one-on-one. Yeah, we gonna talk. We gonna have fun. We'll be on fire. We believe it It's a unique husband big shit big shit big shit It's a unique hustle nigga big shit big shit big shit. Huh name another podcast like this Check check check it. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy e ceo and I'm here with the lovely amazing official Miss Jamaica. What's going on? Hey, man, you know, this is a special day man. This day right here. It's a little different than other Man, it's the same day that we always have man. We've been blessed man We got a guy all the way from Jamaica, man. This is crazy, man I never would have thought you know boy you powerful, you know, I never would have thought this your cousin Listen man. Luton fire. Yes. I bless a lot of gift tanks Man Luton fire is in the building man. Hey man. Thank you for coming man. Yeah, man give thanks I'm talking about a long ways man. Yes. Yes, man. I tell you man, you know what God is able man Hey, I always say he's faster than a speeding bullet More powerful than a locomotive Able to leave tall building in a single bound. That's the way my God is man. Thank you for coming man You just you're a breath of fresh air man. I've been listening to your music man Your energy is on it's on fleek. Is that the way they used to say the young folks? Yes That's the young folks Your daughter would say leave that to the young folks daddy. Leave that Man, I'm getting old man. I'm washed up, but man. I tell you man Just man. Thank you for coming on the show you Like I said, I've listened to the greats the Bob Marley's man I've listened to what's that one you had me boozy and would your bun time? She doesn't put me in there. She I don't listen that other old boy that I get jealous of what beanie man I don't listen to be any man. You know, I can't do that. She like No, I'm right with you Yeah, man a relaxing music that make you feel like you know like like like it got to me a Bob Marley feel But I'm not from there, but I'm just I love your music cuz it's refreshing. It's life You know, I mean it makes you feel good and that's what I like about and you can understand a little bit more than I can understand it Yes, yeah, yeah kind of the words speak a particular language that the world understand Yeah, so as me from my island we speak raw pathway We try our best to formulate our melodies and sentences along with the world understood and spoke, you know Yeah, cuz everybody's everybody's listening. Yeah, everybody's listening like I go to Africa and I met up on artists That have millions of followers, but in their tribe. Yeah, nobody outside of their tribe understand what they are saying Can I speak a different language? Yeah, and they are so powerful in their local zone You know, yeah, and that's that's crazy. You said that because I seen you and I seen you performing in Africa Yes, I said man, it's do right here man. Yeah. Hey at home Everybody been coming over here said Africa Is it that is it like that is it that beautiful? Well the beauties oh you see future. Okay, you know and as people like us from African descent And when you live here be a adult you realize how stuck you can be in this part of the world When you go to Africa you see a opening for everything you can aspire to Once you're educated and you can finance your move You know, yeah, you can be a boss You know, you you know, I heard that you the food is better like it's cleaner Yeah, because yeah cleaner a lot more cleaner and more healthy Because somebody was telling us that um actually yesterday that when they went to Africa I don't remember what part they said they went to they said it's so clean where they um anything you want they go and Get it right then and there is not like you store it in the refrigerator or nothing like that You go and get your food right then and there and eat it So for them when they came back to America and was eating American food They got so sick because they had all that clean food for a while My friend came to Jamaica from South Africa and I buy an orange juice to give him a needle Because it wasn't fresh you say this is not orange Yeah, it's something it's mixed with all sorts of stuff. Wow. This does not taste no way like orange And that's the orange juice. I grew up exactly Seasonal they say the food is seasonal like you they eat seasonal season only that's like Jamaica with the fruits You know it only grows certain time of the year. It's not like here where um You know like sometimes you go to a grocery store and you get like the strawberry Otter season them still have it. Yeah, but I'm say it's otter season That's why it's not so sweet it's not so, you know I'm like, how you go and sell things that are not in season that mean that what I'm gonna put in here to make it In season it's like the engineer the the plant right so they can always have it, you know But when I was growing up I eat fruits when I'm hungry Uh, we never used to have a lunch by going to buy a bag with a pretty bag with food Nowadays, this is only some pretty bag. Yes. We design and food food not supposed Nothing in bags supposed to excite me to want food Right, you know, because food is natural food is what when we hungry pick a plum We pick our orange We pick some banana we climb the mango tree And if you eat fish you go fishing This is all my Jamaica. Exactly. One thing I used to always get upset about with Jamaica Is the fact that we have resources of everything in the island, but they still import a lot of stuff I'm like, you have it there. You can get it fresh and you know, it's about all politics is on global law And what they have to do according to the global agenda Yeah, no, but it's not about what they might want because they all grew up in a free Jamaica If it's your con see that you're back door and your copper water get calm next week But they choose to import con knowing all that Says it couldn't be by their choice to want to do that. Right. It's by a law global Babylon political law Right, you know, how do you when you look at your analytics on youtube you have people that's more to the In England and different places Do you ever look at that and just be amazed at the fact of how you affect different people in different ways? Yeah, man, that's what keep me going. That's what gave me the impetus knowing that I may sit around So let me check my phone and I say a line are coming from cassava Yeah Serbia Croatia, Moscow, St. Peter's burden. They go all over you find them in germany france all over europe and even africa Yeah, some places america appreciate the lotan fire vibes. Where's the largest crowd from? The biggest crowd the largest crowd. I pull is in africa zimbabwe. He went down and shut that down Zimbabwe I've been watching what's going on. That's the one. Yeah See Yeah, and it's a good vibe. I do a lot of big festivals with like 40 50 000 people But I weren't the one that pulled that 40 000. What's the largest crowd you pull? About 20 that's still good very good. Yeah, that is good pull about 20 in kip town In the winter time outdoor Does it get cold out there? It was winter. I don't know how winter is Jamaica. Don't get cold in the winter No, I don't think we have winter. We have a tropical Yeah, but I said winter is december. Yeah, it's still winter. But kip is kip town south africa. It's snow Yes Really, but not as heavy as all you would say at new york in Interacanada What it cold and the winter time is in Summer here is winter here Really? I didn't know that. Yeah All right, so but we like to go back. We like to go back Okay, okay, and now we're going to pull you back in let's close the book and re-watch Yes. Yes. So um, tell me how was it like growing up in um, spanish town? Well, I grew up in the 80s and Firstly I grew up in a yard at dansal where my family had a little sound system Not a big sound in jamaica, but the sound system culture was vibrant So I will look at following look at people around us around us and then In a my yard was the other man like pappas and dirtsman major worries ledigie genitan olfman And general tiki. Wow. That's the place and lotan fire. That's the place where they got a microphone Like for the first time I said, yes, we are going to sing because this is how the place run Music was it because I bound to see my family In a sound system vibration. They're not doing music. They play a song But as I hope my passion was football. So I'll play football every day soccer Run up and down in the ghetto in the street Booker off with two booker whenever football shoes and the river was right behind So we swim every day at the school to work to school So we all we all were friends We all reach on time, but we never have cell phone or any pharmacy. Those were the good days. Yeah Those were the good days. I remember that river and drink water like this Yeah So you had brothers and sisters. Yeah, I got two brothers Two sisters. You're the oldest or youngest the middle one middle one Okay, your mama dad was there. Both of them was there with you all through my life Our generation of mother and father Everybody who everybody not everybody I want to say almost 80 percent of people who've been on our show They grew up in an era where Their mom is who raised them because their dad left at a young age They don't know where they went what they went on there and everybody blame the dad It's always the dad who gonna leave them with the mom. Well, I It's a crack error here. That's a different crack cocaine. Um, that was the error here. Um, Jamaica didn't have that Yeah, they had to have it held they came they came over here and started doing it. So selling it. So don't play me But not like here the way how people talk about it here. Jamaica is a third world country with a smaller economy You don't have the big money to buy what to buy. Correct. But it was there when it was booming in america for Black people black men to be hustling and going to prison and dying. It was happening in jamaica It was happening in caribbean all over brazil ever where black people is it was happening Okay, yeah, whatever black people know in america. It affects us all everywhere. Man. That's something that's that's heavy What he just said, right? If it happens in america to black people, it spreads worldwide I can remember the family oriented Lifestyle we used to live And I can remember the breakdown The breakdown is in the 80s Yeah, when the younger people start off baby when they're in food farm and third farm And drop out of school Yeah We watch our younger aunts have baby and the father go east and they go west With the child sometimes they tussle over who to have the child Sometimes the woman most times Keep the child But the problem is The child would never know the situation the situation is wrong for the father to not there It can't be right Right because you need both of them there to you know, there's no reason for a man to say this is why I left What he left And there's a reason because I see a lot of people when I was growing up A lot of people had the mom and dad in the household But you had some who didn't but it's not like but the dad would always come back and still be a part of the child's life I didn't I didn't see a lot of broken families like I hear a lot of people say I was always over this house because right because right Father never did I would try finding man knowing. No idea spit me. They don't want to know it. They hate him This is my problem. No, this is a big problem. We talk about my problem is that why in Jamaica We have a lot of friends who don't Live with their father And they always want to know their father Whenever they find me say yo, my daddy and fire see my father and I love it. They're happy happy not here They don't want to hear father They don't want to hear the word dad The curse man Boys curse man girls curse man. I don't know I think it's it's just I think it goes It's just a situation where it's uh, it's been an issue I don't like to revert back to history But there's been a long drawn history of how men and families black families Just were ripped apart and I think a lot of times we don't like to go back and give Psychology is just on what it did to us psychologically and slavery and all that stuff And I think that becomes an issue And if you don't deal with certain things genetically it's passed down. I believe that well, it's not genetic Let me tell you all I understand it In in the 60s the 50s Black people were more family oriented We were family we used to have mother and father in the house We were more educated at the time. We were more progressive at the time at that time father used to have a skill and a trade Something to always bring money home In the 80s and 90s they locked down all skill and trade opportunity in this country But I got to say this I agree with you 100 because during that time there was more, uh, it wasn't desegregation You see what I'm saying? We were segregated. So people had built up their own forts to where they was building in their inner community Yes, we were more community community. That's why you had families more oriented then because we had to stick together At that time, you know what I mean? But when they said we could just go wherever and do whatever People started try to get it intermingled into what into people who didn't look like us They started trying to deal with those areas and I believe that's where we started to weaken our culture Our villages no You don't think so the system weakened the black man And the black woman don't need a weak black man The system. Yeah, the government. Yeah, wow I could I could say Taking away our independence Yeah, yeah, yeah by not allowing us to Have any farmer Skill expertise to use make money They give us instead of me being amazed not plumber or builder or carpenter. They give us classroom Theories which is not conducive to what is happening in the streets So when we don't pass and get that degree and we come in the streets, we see a different reality And we don't have a job sometimes so we end up doing a job that we don't like with the degree, you know my head We don't get the time to spend with the family to deep breathe mama deep breathe papa together So we can deep breathe the children together because we're always on the go Because of the education system. We are not trained to be independent people. We are trained to be workers But even if you're trained, you still don't have the same opportunity, right? Because they're not going to pick you if they got their people that's applying for those exact same jobs with the same education You're still not going to get that job. This is what destroy our community because Before we try to compete for those jobs. We used to be a plumber Yeah, we used to be amazing that we have to pee me when we don't work So me always have money for my family Mm-hmm. That is the biggest breakdown the man cannot provide for his family So I had to go and this woman took on welfare and married to welfare Yeah, and even and even today they say a lot of um Because you know how it's more of a so-called woman generation right now But when I say that I hear a lot of people talking about there's some women especially in like Companies who are making more than some men are and the system is doing that to sort of kind of belittle men In a sort of way black men. Yeah, so it causes division in the household. Yeah, that's right And most of falling for it. I'm not trying to hear it That's their mission to let us be like yeah, like yeah, like like and and it weakens up and and and I'm gonna be honest with you, um Uh, it it's working in a sense in certain areas. They put it out in the TVs. They put it in situations with our Wives and and you're right. It weakens our people We're all single parent children. Wow My mommy most Single parent home is mommy There's no your boy. What you're doing Go in go get your rest Where you why are your shoes get up? There's none of that. You sound like me. There's none of that in the old soul today That's right. So what you expect a boy to be like if mommy's like honey come You know, you're the best boy in the world. Wow. You're the most beautiful boy. Wow. You're so lovely Wow, and get bright and what he say and when nothing no after you get older Feel good about what mommy's saying, but when he come out in the reality and I'm and say yo wow one You don't know how to deal with that because his environment is like, oh You crying I agree. You see that. I like this. It's a good interview right here. It's good stuff. So it's spoiling in Jamaica Let's say you're spoiling. Look at boy That is spoil the picnic Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can tell you tell your son that is Can you say to your son You're the most beautiful boy in the world You're the most handsome boy in the entire world That's a man. He's ugly and then what happened and then when he come into the world and he looking remember all him look And then see a boy more handsome than him and some people not looking at him as the handsome boy Looking at that one. Oh, he might think we're more handsome than him And feel so because all his life is him that you're the most handsome son You're the most brilliant son who and cry too In front of the boy. That's what they do And turn the lookable at them and at this Weakened him Yeah, I agree 100% 100% and and we got to do something to change that narrative. How can we change our households? It starts at home You doing a great job by being With your wife. That's it in a household with the children Them know them space. That's right. These boys these girls in your home know their space because our man is there I know there's some time mama is like you don't have to deal it pop. I'm strong enough. I got a job And pay bills No woman can't be a man in the household. This is the profession. This is all the professing themselves. That's right I'll be like, why is it mama? I'm a son and I'm gonna be a father one day So this is all my wife should take my son. I say is a dead beat so you can't see There must be a way to work it up because there's a way there's a breakdown point So there must be a point to fix it even have respect for each other 70% time the man is the Where are you calling? Where are you calling manual? Rolling stone 70% time the man is the rolling stone. Yeah, so Most of the time like most most most of the time the woman is right Yeah But there must be a megal ground. You must be look at justice is split. You can't say money around. Who money right? That's something wrong with that. Yeah. Yeah, I agree Bravo, this is a great interview. He loves it. Yeah. Yeah, because you're telling the truth You're making it to where a man has to stand Where a man's supposed to stand will it ever change? Will it ever go back where a woman has to stand supposed to be an equal Move it's not it's like this. It's like the scales of justice. It's like this right now The man is here and the woman in our black communities every man with wicked man You have some man with wicked. You have a man with good people are not bad people never burn bad There's nobody who want to be bad You know people become bad because of the environment and the environment Nobody human being is born People burn good people are good Normally I agree. Do you let me ask you this coming up Every family Hits a place where a tragedy struck. Did you have that place? Coming up something happened Well, my life is a ghetto life. You know, it's a checkout board life. Yeah, it's not really sure it's like He's our daddy. He's our mommy. They are there. They get the most adult respect from us the children, of course But we never I personally never know of any Relationship foundation as family. We just know says see me and my brother and sister name So mother and father. Yeah, they make sure he got to school and have manners. No communicative links. There's no. I love you Yeah, make sure that same thing Same thing never get my mother and father never tell me said they love me from a barn You can relate My mom would tell me my dad never did. Yeah, my father never says son. Me love you My mother never says son. Me love you. But I know my parents love you. Sure They love me more than me love me. Yeah, I was growing up. Yeah Because there was a they were the protection the protective shield So they didn't know how to express it. They knew how to show it. Yes They're more sure of love than expression Expression love but in today's society the way how things have changed where everybody's talking about mental illness nowadays Whereas because my mom didn't tell me that she loved me just hypothetically speaking Um, and we used to get beaten to with big board and big box Same thing with him too. Yes, and it never traumatized me. But some people are talking about it. My mother But you see people are talking about that now and saying that all of that is meant because of how they React to certain things is and now they're saying because counselors and stuff like that could go counseling and all of that They're saying it's because of what happened in the past. Yes. That's what I could choose counseling But when I look around it's what it's not like it was an environment That us the Jamaican children growing up in the 80s if you're wrong you'll get beaten So we accept it Even teacher where we don't know She was our teacher Be it when we get the subject wrong. I didn't turn in homework. Mama accept it. Papa accept Or you get beaten when you come home. We get beat when you come home So it was a part of a psyche to know that if we do bad wrong we're going to get beaten So it not traumatized me. It traumatized me. I said mama beat me. So I cried till I got back my mother Because I say I cook the dinner See I say I cook the dinner. Yes, right. I I got beatings and uh, I'm I didn't turn out too bad. I mean Now you can look at it as The word beat A child Just beat What is a big there's but there's beating beating but there's abuse There's abuse and there's beating that that the wrong double wrong Abuse is beating and beating it different because in like, you know How I look on it is if you abuse your child where then black and blue all over them can't even you know They go school and I've cut And stuff like that. That's abuse But if you whoop your child because you know them do something wrong or whatever you beat them Punish them whatever then that's something different Then abusing to me nobody has to do punishing No I got whips on me. That was normal. But did you but did it get cut the whips? But did it cut? Yeah, well, but did you coach you though? Did you get did you have I did cut I get right you get cut It'd be bleeding Johnny can't beat me get beat with electric wire. Yeah me was Pipe rubber was you know the machine sewing machine, you know that belt That boss you get beat with that With tambourine tree. We peep the whip. I'm at a platy three times. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's a switch the switch. Yeah But we still love mama me too very much I was still love father father like a tiner. Yeah, my father never beat but at once a time When it got gonna fur that I'm when I was Are you done? Yeah me too When you get older at some point you whoop me and I'm looking like this not working Like you're right. Like I'm old man And and you stay in your ground and they they kind of get it But during those smaller times when you're coming up You needed it. You needed it. Yeah, I needed it because I was bad as hell I was bad And I still continued to be bad after that. Mm-hmm. So I mean it said I mean the whooping didn't help you didn't matter It was life. That's the way the country boy live. I didn't care about the whoopings more than I cared about having a good time. Yeah Trust me Because don't go go through because you can't swim so you get beaten feet But as them done and turning back you're going back to the river Yeah, you can't swim so they are worried that my son is gonna drown But you don't care This won't have a good time. This won't have a good time. I want to talk about let's get into the music because I don't know When did you start finding your love for music? I know that um, because they did music So you always heard the music because they always had the song system But when did you say, okay? I don't want jumping the song system thing. I want to be an artist I want to do I want to be a dj. That's what I wanted to how over you and you realize that All right artists of my age We started out around sound system We never know about going to the studio to record a song and writing a professional melody but From a band Me in at the dance, I hold the mic I sing a dj a chant I say a poem I run a joke on everything but Professional professional recording started out about 1994 When we go to the studio with the audition we meet prominent producers who people say I'm big And feel really powerful and try to sing them here if you see Oh, they might have like or vice record a song with us We get denied a lot a few places that we went and them say we know how your style is singing Until it was fine. We sell 50 in a lane and we get opportunity Our record good songs and people like it and we start what label you record it would first The first label was a label called sapphire sapphire record. That was 1990 yet Did they treat you right on the record deal? Yeah Did you feel good about it still to this day? Yeah. Yeah. Okay those first people were irie. It's like a brother A friend of mine father was the boss So he treat me like a son. Did you run into a bad record deal anywhere? No, I don't know I mostly look for me Okay, independent. Yeah, okay and and most are the distribution and recording companies in Jamaica You have to be sharp to get good deals because even sometime. I think they did themself chicken themself And and that's what I that's something because when you think about it is just I look at what you're saying and There has to be some kind of way something linked you to the education of understanding how not to get in a bad deal It sometimes is just some spirit, you know and people may think that I can't try this with lute and fire Because if you find out a problem, they think that yeah, so they come to me irie or don't come to me at all I got it. I got it and and that's because you mean business. Yeah, I'm roughing I like that because we need rougher people because so many people cry If I remain a man today Because there's bear half a man not the world So you have to be masculine to the mark so you have to keep the baritone, you know That's true. I saw somewhere where it said that you recorded your first song for budget well In them time I was Doing the work with sapphire while I was at budge So I don't record in that budge, but my first release was with sapphire. Okay. Okay. So what was this first song that you did? You remember it? uh song like That song even got played on the radio. Mm-hmm and I say All the HACI to me bear Mrs. Sedem no cure. I don't may I got you on them and they use them tears, you know Hey, I'm gonna get into it right now. Why don't you get inspiration for all your songs It's just day to day. I know we think Okay, we think contrary to whatever the system come with because we say everything where the system come with is can't help It's for their benefit to get rich. So we think The opposite way And with that now we create a third pattern where I can sing For people who think they are oppressed Understand what I'm saying. Yes, you know, I mean I just be like What the system say is a lie. That's a lie Everything is a lie. They say so I speak what I would call truth according to their lie Wow, so you speak life into them. Yeah No, that's it. You know, I mean, yeah, so a lot of people who feel down and out when they listen to lute and fire They rise, you know, like I was in bellies Not bellies. Damanica And we were driving down the road and I feel like Let me tell you something lute and you'd never would know this. I'd be like what you know Somebody take my money and they promise They would give it back to me And they took one month two month three month and I decided I need my money and I take up my gun And I was driving down the road And suddenly I heard one of your song I sang him say This little voice inside of me Saying I have no choice Let it be let it be love This time You know, yeah, and he'd be like listening and be like start crying And then in turn back and go home And he meet me Five six years after wow And tell me that say yo you changed my life, man I was gonna go to prison. I'm sure because that we got mother con. He's supposed to dead, you know And be like, yeah, let me never sing my song To make you change your life. I sing my song for people. You are one of those who got connected. I caught you That's good That's good stuff But that's good to hear it because a lot of times in life We try to do what's right We try to do because that's one of the reasons why we do what we do because People are watching and they're touched by your story And or they can resonate with what you're going through or what you went through and overcame it And they could be in that situation right now and don't know what to do and because of what they hear It had them their outcome be more positive. So to say So you just have but we don't ever know that we're just hoping But you had a blessing where he came back and told you how it changed actually meet me And happy that this is a mystic because in his heart I save his life Then he come meet me the man who saved his life. He'd be like, well god is on my side I know god is real because when this up my was Determined to go blood that next guy That's that's a blessing. You have uh, you have four daughters No sons. No, but he got four daughters. I do know that four girls and you um you you um One sings. Yeah And the others play instruments or do all of them or all of them into the music. No just the one Two or two of them one one will write and sing one say it's a good idea and one don't care How old are they 17 17 14 15 Okay, it's 17 17 different mothers. Oh, that's how to say three different mothers. Wow. Yeah, okay one two and one one Okay, that's a good life. So so so you're done. Are you want to go back to a boy? No, no, no I'm okay with these girls. Yeah, okay with the girls. Are they handful? Yeah, they cried quite humble people really very that's good very humble people they kind of I'm watching them Because they they never Never one of my daughter let me say yo, what is that? Never It puzzled me. That's a blessing. I'll be like, oh you you guys are just too too good too good When you go already to mud me just tell me the date let me prepare myself Because they are so beautiful and nice It are to find beautiful and nice, you know, man It's something man. It's one of those things. Are you trying to help her in our musical? No, I'm not I'm trying to allow her to deep breathe herself. Okay, and find if daddy I want to do this You know, because whenever I try to reason with her about singing she got quiet It's like she don't want to say no to me and she don't want to say yes Because no might she might think it will make me feel like why you don't want and you can't sing so beautiful All right, then yes should be like a commitment that I would expect Her too, you know, which is true. Yes. Yeah, and tell you the truth music business burgeon Me prefer me that I gotta learn a school and get up behind chopper and word and become involving this hell But in today's society with the music you're you can be an entrepreneur and A musician because being an entrepreneur is building your own brand and whatever you want to do and Being a artist in today's date and time you have to be an all-around artist It's not like back in the days. You're just a singer or a DJ or a diss or a that No, you have to be pushing your own merchandise. You have to be branding yourself. You have to be selling Promoting doing this doing that. It's not just I'm just doing this one thing And I have people around me to do everything else. You have to know how to do everything and be an all-around person but as for 14 year old Boy or girl Their business is to this class school 100% even this track by singing and not Like for real because all that would be her responsibility Yeah And she can't have her head thinking about what about my t-shirts I don't get my my my bags. I'm not seeing the cops. I'm not where is she not supposed to be Schoolwork get school done first. Yeah. So is your 14 year old that does the singing? Yeah, okay Well, she's not the bravest one. She's not a bravest one. Which one is the bravest one? The one who Kind of sing sometime and so come by that today That's a 17 No, she's the 14. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah. She's a December boy like me Okay She have each of them have a different personality different style different look which one of them is more like you None none Each of them have a different something and none of them don't take after you individual the kind of Kind of mind their own business kind of vibes where they penetrate their their thing You know, they don't each one is a individual You don't mean they don't pattern each other Army i'm too rough for girls to pattern Really? Yeah, and they know that and they don't want to pattern me. They'd be like, I don't want to be you're too harsh Hmm very outspoken. Yeah, okay So tell me about what are all the songs that you've ever done? Which one is your favorite? Rasta still they vote Well, if I don't can't believe Man, I say rasta far right now them site. I ain't get weak in their knees Well, if I don't can't believe me likes a girl when I can't see it in their face No Whoa, whoa. Hey, I tell you I know vex them vex are just surprise them surprise when they realize Say rasta still they vote Why is that one your favorite? Well, you know, I'm from a cultural background rasta far right rasta far And and yeah, it's it's like an anthem whenever some rasta um event They're always choose to play that song so I'm gonna feel good about it. That's good That's good. That was good stuff right there boy. Hey man. I was at the concert there for a minute Y'all don't even know man. Y'all don't y'all not ready for me. I keep it. I'm having a great time with this here, man uh, the fight song Is that song the fight song that you you like? Fight song. I have my daughter singing. Yeah. Yeah cover. Yeah. That's what this is my fight song Yeah, yeah, that's what I was listening looking at that this morning I'm like is the daughter singing or is it his song? But your daughter your daughter's evidently was the ones that I heard you talking about You you you definitely you played a heart role, but there's a soft spot in you for them girls. Yeah You gotta have it. I have two I have two girls. Yeah, I have to be the soft man in their life And the tough one also. Yeah, you know, I beat them. I have to be the man Yeah That the world do have a much man audience They're gonna know what it is to go and meet a real man because of the man you walked in front of them Exactly. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's dope. I like it. You know what I mean? And we reason about um real world issues and the up they really open said that is not like that listen That's good deep issues where Like if I'm watching they follow me If I'm watching some farmer Informative they in the rooms are not paying me any mind And like two traders after they talking to me about it So, oh, you know what these things are okay when you're listening we're listening. I mean you're gone you go watch it That's it. You're a hard-working man. You just keep putting out music after music after album after album So you're on your 20th album now Yes Wow, man, that that's that's a lot of work Yeah, I was even looking at your youtube and the single i'm like you dropping song after song after song I'm like, how do you create all of that just back to back to back and you putting it out Because I hear a lot of artists come on here and be like they make a lot of music But they hold it back. They don't put it out because it's just not the right ones that I'm from a cultural background I'm here to share my culture and these are thinking that the world should be aware of And I want the world to get a collection of this music because this music is for the next millennium This music shall rule for lifetime This music is a learn on the job music I sing what I see at At the moment at that moment if we are supposed to go sing a song. No, I sing what happened here today So you don't ever hold on to any songs. No No, I try to forget my song because I don't want to sing like that again Do you ever have like a block like you say, okay, I need to go and I need to go produce something And you go in the studio and nothing comes. No, I already know that. No, no, no once you can talk You can sing Simple as that. Yeah, once you can talk you can sing and you can just make a melody you can make anything out of something Yeah, because I don't have to do it like a chris brown melody I don't have to be michael. I don't have to have the bass I can just say yes, we are here today and we're having a good time Yeah, we having a good time and we're feeling the fun the fun the fun You know, yeah, I don't have to have no lute and fire to explain anything That's what people be looking for. That's what people be looking for. They're looking for a story behind everything Yeah, the story is explained while we sing, you know lute and fire lute and stands for Wind instrument. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah You you you you something else, man Like a wind instrument No, that's a good someone did you I was like, man, how did you find out your name stood for that? Okay, it's an ancient egyptian wind instrument. I was reason about it with our old guy in england because he was be like Luton we got loot in town and loot in in english In england in great britain is a luteness someone who work on teeth people things But in egypt, there is a wind instrument That used to be played by the pharaoh called luten. So you got away I look at old man because he was trying to say luten is a luten is that thief Yeah, I'll be like i'm trying to have fun with the reason and explain it to me. Yeah, that's because that was 1992 In the ghetto each man have 10 names You can name johnny dog cataract big nose Jojo just anything. Yeah. So manium sketchy manium gossy manium curtis manium fire So it was 1992. We were making new names loot. Yeah, that's right loot and fire I like it. I like it. I do too. Fyah is original. It come from right here. Wow Nobody used that spelling in the history of the humankind before I did On that morning f y Ah it mean god Fyah mean god that which is in me that is greater than all that is in the world How do you feel when you look like I looked at your youtube? I think it was It's certain songs you got over millions of views And that's something that you should be proud of because a lot of people are trying to get to that level and it's not just one It's happening oxen all the time oxen. I don't care about youtube I don't care about social media. I just know that i'm a singer and if this magnet is not pulling you Sorry loot and fire. Wow. Yeah, I get it You got to do it from here. Yeah, if this magnet is not pulling you who love music loot and fire. I'm sorry I wrote down something. I want the weed. Oh weed. Oh, that was just about that Did you do that for because the stellar farms the weed farm? Did you do it for them because that's promoting them as well? It's a production that they do And they introduce it to me and I record Okay, I love that song, but my favorite song is the one um the culture For the Sponger Man your music makes you feel it feels good man. It's refreshing man. You know, it's organic You know, it's organic. You know, it's it's coming from a place of peace man You know what? I mean a place of love. That's the way I listen to it. Have you heard the stick to the culture? No, that's my favorite. You just said that one was your favorite. No the weed always good, but stick to the culture You all love your favorite looking like it the words on that one. I love that one I love the words. Yes I love the words That's what I look for when I when I listen to a song I look for the words It has to have meaning to it not just the boogie auger thing and whatever it has to be it has to have some good Hold some meaning to it to me when you go in the studio. Do you you you just sing you don't write You just know it just comes from a place. If I try to write I'll get a lot of ideas Okay And I don't want a lot of ideas what I'm saying. I just want to do it and done So do you just go in there and they play a beat and you start to just get into it? Like if the beat but let me can I tell the world I should have told me the other thing Yeah, man. Why not man? That's I gotta go. Yeah, let me let me get let me get let me get this boy Because the world gonna know I need to know I need to have this caption in two or three ways four five Okay, let me show you how I make stick to the culture Okay, we went to the studio and they really my play I never went go to studio with a song never I can't I don't know how to So they really play me like Oh So I say stop engineer, let me hear that And then he played it and I'm like, okay, listen 10 15 times. Okay Yeah So what I do normally is create a melody around the beat and in whatever I grumble I find words in that grumble. There's so many words in those grumbles So this is how I create my songs Wow And that's dope because you know, you know self-awareness Understanding who you are is what is where it makes it happen in front anybody. Yeah I do I cry in front any people. Yeah in front anybody. Yeah I don't care. I skin my face like this Any pretty girl She could have pretty like that. I'd be like stick to your culture Ah That's organic. See that's real Oh, I'm free man. I'm a free free and that's what it's all about. So top three artists of all time That are alive any genre top three. I just only need three artists top three number one Bob Marley. Okay. Why? Because in keep us sticking to our culture next. Okay number two Blake Shelton Blake Shelton, why because I like the way you write songs. I'm a songwriter. Okay number three Michael buble Michael blue blade. Wow Why because he whispers and sings it inspires me It fascinates me to be like Oh, we be like In the sky You know how I feel Oh I You know how I feel Days down You know how I feel So like wow How can a man do that So easy with his vocal Some stock right there. You start right and that's his three top three and and what were they again? Bob Marley give me that second one Yeah, man, that's beautiful man, and he did it quick too. He was fast on the draw some people be stuck right there. Just like My youtube now you're going to see Michael buble and Blake Shelton. I learned a lot from the way all the Do it easy Any product is easy Wow. Wow. So is there a new and upcoming artist that um You have your eyes on that you say, you know what they call me why? Because if you notice meeting meeting organic New and upcoming are not organic The melody is nice and the beat is nice and the melody and yeah and it done and done I like organic I can't feel it if it's not organic. I'm sorry If it's not singing from here I can't feel it I get it the bass line is not I can't feel it I tried very much. I can play a song that I sing on some of those. Nobody is beat Best melody, but I'm not feeling it. I want to release it fast make it go on So you can forget about it. Yeah Okay, man. Did we get everything I wanted to ask you basically let's talk about his upcoming shows because I want to talk about what he's doing here too. Okay. Let's start The reason why I'm not eyes out for any new artist is because I don't know any new artists I don't listen some part of the music, you know, I listen to Blake Shelton And michael buble every day For the past seven years, you don't listen to radio. Why would I want to hear? It's like nobody listened to the radio anymore. Honestly in this generation In Jamaica in Jamaica this and that program was brought to you by this and that and the money spend and then Yeah, you're firing music so we play firing music and send Jamaica we pay them in us dollars from Jamaica This and that program brought to you by this and that this and that is Jamaica and money Jamaica and company sponsoring Jamaica ready to play music and they play foreign music Yeah, and send the money come on foreign come pay people. I hate that. You'll never hear You're cannot hear that on a Jamaica radio That's reggae reggae is not played in Jamaica, man. That is terrible. Reggae is not played What is played in Jamaica is what you asked me about the new next thing that I may like. I don't know the new next thing I'm stuck with reggae So you don't have no new next reggae thing that's coming out. No because there's no new next reggae thing in Jamaica I'm not seeing it. The new next is for some One thing about even a like human the song nice nice nice nice nice and then the chorus is Not like human and everybody says the best song Driving me crazy, man. Wow I haven't heard that one yet The melody nice and the lyrics nice and in flow so sweet and the chorus the hook Where hook y'all said, right? I don't like human being And that's music and everybody's singing that's why I'm not like you That's why Horrible that is not good Well, hey, man, um, I would say how can people get a hold of you on your instagram. Okay. What is it? What I'm here for That last reggae festival first time on a festival in this part of america I'm coming. I'm I'm there. I'm coming to see you before. Yeah So today we have my brother, Anthony be performing To the third world performing. Yes. And tomorrow third world performing again. And they're doing two days. I'm not sure But I'm sure Anthony be performing today. I'm looking for your performing Luton fire performing tomorrow and I'm gonna be there in adison rocking out with you rocking. We gonna rock it Yeah Hey, you better spin Money And it's gonna be closer. You better wear your winter jacket because we gonna rock it But you have upcoming performances too Um, you have one is it tana one already gone or it's coming out. That's a tour for europe. That is in july Right, that's coming up. I thought that was amazing because it tana. I love her. She's amazing She got nominated for the grammy Last grammy that went the other day. Mm-hmm. She never got it, but we're proud because it's a No decision of the world twice as hard to make it Exactly that pulpit Exactly and when you see a female young nice lovely beautiful in she gonna get it. She gonna get it one day She don't get it. I know we're supporting mama. Yeah. I'm a dan I love her. Yeah, so when's your next one after this one? Where are you gonna be after this performance? I will be an austin That's next weekend in 23rd. So you're coming back again. Are you just gonna stay here this whole time? We we're going and back again. You should you should have stayed because it's next weekend to stay Still we're ma'am Texas have a lot to offer Go to the river walk, right go to the river walk the river walk the tourist stuff. Oh, yeah, i'm not go see You are jfk got got gunned down downtown Oh, yeah, you gotta go. Okay. What else? What else can he do? You can go to uh, don't they got the alamo or something? Yeah, he has alamo down there. Alamo. Yeah, you got stuff you can go and just tour and austin Hang out eat at the restaurant barbecue and all that stuff. Yeah That's you. I got fun. Sorry. You know, he keeps messing that bottle It'd be popping on it. You can't sit still. Can you never Well, why am I standing in the dressing room and the big coach is there? I'm ready. Why should I sit? I'm ready I want to know imagine when you on stage you just you because I see and he's high He is so high you everywhere. You know how to work at stage. Yeah, you do Give me a gear man. What should I do? I have to do it. Come on. This comes naturally to you Yeah, because I have to do it. You have to do it Give me I need that instagram stuff. You go ask for it. I give I have to do it. Yo, I need his instagram. I gotta get it Loot and fire music. That's my ig. Okay facebook. You can also reach me there at Anthony loot and fire martin that's facebook. Anthony loot and fire martin Do you do tiktok? Nah, why tiktok is a new way. Oh, he would go crazy man. I don't want to go crazy Start do your tiktok. Oh, yeah, yours will go. You will go viral on tiktok Everybody love him on tiktok. Yeah, I could promise you I'm gonna watch them tiktok. It's fun So I watch the fun some but I'm not I'm not gonna tiktok business tiktok is But not everything on tiktok is so called fun. You can just you can just drop her lyrics and You will do great. You don't even have to do nothing. They'll take it and run with it. Yes That's all you have to do is be yourself Just be yourself and in go and it's it's gonna take off. I have a new phone today. I ain't got tiktok I promise you you would do it. You would do good on tiktok just because of how your energy is and you're real Nobody these people are fake man. I know How you know? Don't overtake all of that Just go in there just go in there to talk about a situation just real quick. Let's talk about situation and put it out there Let me tell you about our situation 2011 I was invited to The gambia Saying it was a Wednesday evening the fight the flight was in Jamaica, New York, Amsterdam, paris banjol When I arrived at the Jamaica airport There was a snow storm In new york the flight they had to cancel All of that flight route in crash mashup But I've almost a million jamaican dollar in my pocket Yeah In my bag and I be like Africa first time to Africa. So I'm buying a ticket rerouting To reach. Okay. It was kingstone fault louder deal out for that land paris lisbon giddy missau Then drive from giddy missau to the gambia Okay, I did all that florida fault louder deal Drop asleep the plane gone If we get our next flight to right Reach jar jar to paris That's a lot Wait on my suitcase got missing I I didn't have a winter jacket To get on the plane to lisbon. You have to go out and jump on that big bus into europe And drive to in the coal. I have a t-shirt like this on freezing in the big bus when I got to Lisbon I got an electronic code and And he found yeah, they were asking me for paper Okay, I know them place the kind of women to come to black. Let's get pissed off. We didn't care how anytime Anyway, I got on the plane from lisbon to giddy missau When I got to giddy missau it was about 8 30 in the night The people who were supposed to drive to to pick me up from gambia Demna reach giddy missau in one suit From jamaica in one suit or clothes. My pants got torn wool Entire pants tear Tear body parts I've taken out my shirt and it's still cold. No, that's what's in african. I mean giddy missau Okay, so it's not cold over there. No, it's hot hot. Okay Come whenever you should smoke. I'm gonna go giddy missau Missy one light We're down the road and dosing at the night dosa blowing at night By a book of Benson Starts smoke, you know, all right Always have an angel So messy, you know, so that money I'm an angel come in the angel. Oh, what is the problem? And I see you struggling around looking looking. What is your problem? I'd be like, you know, my friend them supposed to pick me up, but they're not here Me don't know if he's asleep or me don't know. Yes, I force me. I come out for comes Don't worry man. How much money you want? Tell him said the brother in this up. So I'm forgive him 83,000 guinea missau money But me not have no money. Me only have or 60,000 jamiacan dollar for me We can't spend in Africa, but my friend them They're more this or they might go pick me. I'll be a euro money. You know So I'm giving the 83,000 me pay get back my passport come out buy this cigarette Realize that my friends are not there So he must be here. I'm gonna go on a little more. That place goes sleep Hmm The chemical go club first Go have a good time. Have a good time and still must be where you have a hotel are my place And he said his place your place my virgin I know There's someone I know the way so I'm go Portugal and please. I'm know the vibes, you know Yeah For you no like it's a market is a market. That's where you were sleeping. No I'm sleeping our community here Okay, it is up the road. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay We can't describe it. Wow, but it was just vast A big vast piece of poverty women never see before That's guinea be so One of the most poverty-stricken country in Africa. So she thought now on my way to The Gambia the brother them come on we drive off now On my way to Gambia We have to go to a place called the Kassamas, which is Senegal Mm-hmm Kassamas then Gambia. Okay. Kassamas is Senegal and they're fighting for independence from Dakar So on the Kassamas route is beer little boy. You watch blood diamond movie Yeah Right you and I have to drive through that Wow for six hours And every half hour may get stopped Rifle in my face Damn it. And all I could do is that I gotta ask you You see those are the two words that will take you anywhere Man, I gotta ask you to do this for me and you may can't you might can do it You may not can't you've been on boss talk 101 now. So you know the vibe Uh, you know how you how we do things. I want you to give me a song Like that about boss talk 101 from the top of your head from the top of your head and I'm gonna record it Because I know you can do it So I gotta be your vibe how you would do it. He can he can find you a beat if you want No, no, no, I want it from him. I don't need that He's all right. Let me remind you tonight show teach you all you need to know Information on the go Reggae music faster slow. We are the people inside your stereo Boss talk there 101 is the radio We are the people inside your stereo Boss talk radio Man, thank you for coming on our show man. We love you brother. You got me thinking and singing I can see he was trying to process it Man, I just I I know that it's it's a blessing for us to get him here. He's from Jamaica He's traveling all the time for him to come spend time with us man. It's a blessing. Thank you so much We love you. We love you and at the end of the day If it's anything on our part that we can ever do, please let us know man I know I know you got all kind of resources All kind of people come and dance But in Dallas, you come home. You're my man here. You're my woman here. Yeah, you come home You come home. This is your home now. Yes, sir. Thank you so much, man Respect. It's been another great segment of boss talk 101 what a boss is talk Oh and pipe and a big sign mark, vegeteram delight and a desame leaf go down further, past the ball feeling across the gutter go down straight ahead, then you reach the center then go see your hyphens with the bow wire no take the weed in, not the one at the end then go see your king piece and a cool pasta take the king piece, the weed, the charter you can name sugar king, cut them shit like sugar and you'll be out and full of your temper then you see your sign mark, don't enter you can name your hyphens with the bow wire you can name your hyphens with the bow wire no take the weed in, not the one at the end then you see your king piece and a cool pasta take the weed in, not the one at the end