 Okay, I call the Essex Town Select Board meeting for Monday, September 27th, 2021 to order. I will call the Village of Essex Junction Board of Trustees meeting for a Monday, September 27th to order. Thank you, Andrew. Any agenda additions or changes? A few items from staff. Item 6A, which is the Consent Agenda Consider Approval of Resolution for the Vermont Community Development Program. That material did not actually make it into the packet, so I'd like to add that it is timely. The Champlain Housing Trust needs to include this in their application. It's for the recovery housing at the Fort that the Select Board approved support for, so that's at your tables in front of you. Also, the Village Attorney sent in some items this afternoon. There are edits to the documents that are in the packet for shared services. The MOU for shared services, the police contract and the reappraisal agreement. I'll have edits from the Village Attorney. There are also 3 documents that are new from the Village Attorney, a stormwater agreement, an IT agreement, and a finance agreement, so I will leave it to the boards if they want to add those things. They just came in this afternoon, and they're at your tables, and I've emailed them to all the board members, so hopefully everybody at least has them. If not, having had a chance to look at them yet. I have not had a chance to look at them yet. I have not either. I don't see the MOU one here on my table, so I guess anybody else missing the MOU? I have mine. Thanks. I'm struggling with, I guess, the stuff that was sent to us 2 hours ago, including it since we've not had a chance to even look at it. Go ahead, Tracy. I will move to amend the agenda. I said that correctly this evening to include an item 6C for the resolution for the VCDP grant application authority. It'd be 6A. It's just the... Apologies. Second. So, Tracy, do you also want to make some changes to some minutes? Yes, sorry. From the... I apologize. I need to pull up my email. There was a comment in the... Was it the August 13th minutes regarding the presentation around the retainer contracts? There was a question about... Okay, so you want to pull that out? We can discuss this. So it's just September 13th. Sorry. Yes. Okay. So, Don, you had seconded it. You're okay with including that as well. And the agenda changes. Okay. We have a motion and a second from the select board, I guess, from a discussion standpoint, I'm not sure how you're feeling about that. The trustees are feeling about us not wanting to review these documents. We have not seen yet. I realize you have a motion on the table that has already been seconded. I'd be happy to speak if you'd like me to. Yes, please, Andrew. I think I can completely understand with the agreements with regards to stormwater, IT, finance, since we haven't even discussed those yet. With the MOU, the police and reappraisal, I would think that those would be pretty big components of tonight's meeting. So while we may not have had a chance to review them, without using those copies tonight, I'm unsure if we'd be spending our time wisely. Select board thoughts about that. I have thought about that. I have not read through them. I have not had any time to digest them, collect my thoughts on them. They were not in the packet. They were not available for the public in advance of the meeting. They were not sent to us even to meet the statutory timeline for an emergency agenda item. And I don't feel as though they should be part of our discussion this evening. If you want to bring those up as discussion points tonight, as part of your response to what was in our packet, I have no problem with that, but I do not think that they should be a formal agenda item. The owner, Pat, any other, any comments? I'm just trying to scan through them right now to see if it's significant changes or not. Greg, apologies. Do you know if the most recent changes, are they the one in red or blue? Yeah, sorry. The changes, most recent changes are the ones in red. And that's just tough, tough short timeline. The town attorney turned around. His change is in about three and a half days. The village attorney then turns theirs around in about three and a half days over the weekend. It's just a matter of tight timing. So these three, though, the MOU, the reappraisal and the police service are the same we got in our packet, is that correct? No, the ones in front of you now just came in this afternoon and the text that's in red are the edits suggested or provided by the village attorney. Oh, okay. And this is mechanized. So this, I know we had Bill look at it. So then it builds edits then go to the village attorney. Yes, we got out on Friday afternoon to the village attorney. Yeah, I mean, we did ourselves ask for some of this information to be included last week. I understand absolutely what you're saying. But I think it's part of the mechanism for us even addressing this. And we knew it seems that if three and a half days were required by both parties, then, you know, we should have just last week said, maybe this meeting isn't going to work. But since we are all here and I'm just scanning through, I don't have a problem with the three that we discussed last week going through an addressing. I do agree with Tracy on that. The new ones, I mean, none of us, it sounds like have had any chance to review this at all. So, I mean, I'm okay looking at the three, but I would also have problems with stuff I haven't even seen yet. We're going to have to, we would, Don, what's your thoughts on the ones that Like it's Patrick said, I'm okay with the three because we've discussed it so much and after the corrections. Yeah, given that it's not available to the public, we're going to have to go through line by line on every, every change here. They wanted us to be public about it. Yeah, I know that, but it's, it's, it's, we also need to be cognizant of how long meetings take. And on the same page, I think that we were expecting responses to have no problem with that, but the other one that nobody's had eyes on yet. I, right, so would be the path potential path forward then be to review those three documents with with clear reading of all of the changes that are new. That we're not included in the packet potentially okay, do we then I is it since it's not in the packet, what is the effective is if we agree to include those. Is there a difference between agreeing to include the documents or not? I don't think there's a substantive difference between having them in writing and having a discussion about what the response is this evening. I don't see any difference in that because those are already part of the packet. Part of the packet, it's just a response to what was in the packet. Right, so then we set aside stormwater information technology and shared financial agreements for a future meeting. And then do we accept including these three recently updated documents part of the agenda. As far as I'm concerned already on the agenda is on the agenda discussion of a response to our proposal is already on the agenda. Okay, well, in that case so so is the resolution for the Vermont, you know, the six a that we did add we're adding the material that goes behind it. So I think, I think it's a similar case where we would need to agree to include these three documents as part of the. Meeting material, I don't think we then go back and update the packets. Do we add them in with agendas addition changes. There's a cover sheet that goes on and then we include the new items. Right. Okay. Okay. All right. All right. So I think in the, in the to consider it in the same way that we added the material for agenda item six a we need to also include these three documents. Or agenda item. I be okay. So can I amend my motion to include. The updated memorandum of understanding the updated police services agreement and the updated reappraisal and assessor services agreement. Yeah. Okay, so we have included those in the motion Don you you did second approve agree for seconding. Kathy, do we need do we need to restate the motion at all and you are you following it reporting secretary. I think we're all said you have the motion to include the materials for item six a The materials for the mo you the police services reappraise I want assessor updates with five B And to move the September 13th minutes to business is what I have in my notes for the motion. All right. Yep. Yep. Okay. Thank you, Greg. Hey, any further discussion from the select board Hey, all those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed. Motion passes for zero. Thank you all. Thank you for the select board trustees. Can I get a similar motion with the exception of we do not need to add the item for six a as I was a select board only item. The minutes the September 13 minutes are also straightforward only So one of the trustees wanted to make a motion. I'll give a shot. I move we add Well, what The three updated mo use. Yes under six B. Do I have to specify under five B? Sorry I move we add the Memorandum of Understanding the police contract actual And the reappraiser the appraisers office proposal that arrived today to the agenda under five B I'll second Roger, do you also say the mo you I believe I did. Okay. I just wanted to make sure I second Trustees any further discussion on the motion? Hearing none. All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed. Great. Pass unanimously. Thank you. Okay, thank you, Andrew. We've got the agenda amended and approved for both boards. The next business item is the next item on the agenda is public to be heard This is a time for members of the public to speak to Both boards about issues that are not on the agenda Like to remind folks that this is a joint meeting So please if you have an issue to bring up make sure it's relevant to both boards that would be preferable Also, please be brief Be civil Please refrain from using inappropriate language Um address remarks to myself as select board chair or to Andrew as the village president Please do not attack other members of the public or town staff also Please do not interrupt If you are on the Remote meeting, please mute yourself unless you've been called upon to speak Um, and also it's uh, it's helpful if you turn off your camera. It's less distracting for folks If you're not speaking I miss anything Okay, let's see. Um I am going to start online this time. I see lorraine's loom your hands up Go ahead lorraine Hi, Andy. Um, I hope this is for both boards. I'm like, oh wait. That was a monkey wrench Um, I was wondering if there was a recent project um at a planning commission that we went to And uh, I think it's a really good project because there's solar involved as well And they're increasing some high density residential Um apartment building but one of the things I uh, I didn't realize or recognize because the way the plan was presented Was that there would be a number of trees cut down So I was running in our town plan and I'm not sure if the village in terms of their planning and how they work If there was ever any consideration given to replacement of trees That get cut down because that in terms of offsetting carbon sequestration erosion And filtering of our storm water runoff as well to help slow up storm water runoff I only saw like screening included so I didn't know if that's in our town plan or not in terms of dealing with climate change Mr. Chair, we'd have to look into we have to look at that we none of us here have that question at our fingertips. So we'll uh We'll have to get back to you Lorraine. Okay. Cool. Thanks guys. Thanks for the question Okay, um, I don't see any other hands Up at this point online. Um, there is one person who's on the phone If uh, if you're on the phone and would like to uh speak, uh Go ahead now Okay, sounds like not. Um, okay, then in the room, um Patty Davis come up to the microphone, please State your name. I've already although I've already said it Okay, that's a great day. I'm patty davis. Um nine hillside circle and um I wrote it down. So I'll just read if that's okay, andy. Um, and to keep it short. I'm just going to submit this to you, andy bedtime reading or whenever you have a meeting with Ron Hogue our police chief I asked him to possibly attend tonight But if he's not here, then I'm not going to read anything from it. It's just Not that you need extra material to read, but I like I like research So it was a rainy day and I spent four hours researching because I only gardened for a few hours this morning the capital program review committee Because I've been looking into committees To see what I wanted to be on Whether we're separate together whatever doesn't matter um, and I I guess this capital review committee is part of the junction So I'm just going to read some kind of interesting tidbits And you can absorb it or throw it out. Here we go A lot of revised re-ranking of outstanding capital projects were observed On a very very it was a very very long list I won't get into it many have original Estimates when estimators came to review a project in the junction that go back To 2001 to 2005 One that caught my eye 2009 an estimate was done for a bike lane sidewalk from west street to suzie wilson road And there were so many and this was just the year 2016 So february 2018 minutes numbers Explained the Waterline The 12-inch water line feeds sx west water tank off athens drive simply blew out With millions of gallons of water flowing everywhere he discussed hot spots which Equals a density of a problem area with or without tight soils. I'm into soils as you know, my gardener That then this whole thing was discussed on That what was discussed was what is the best practice? on how to notify the public of these breaks And I don't answer but my question was did did you inform? The public at that time Okay, november 6 2018 minutes number four you i'm going to give these to you you can check my facts Mr. Brown recapped the spreadsheet of the five-year plan and said If the capital funds transfer stays at 7.5 percent the capital projects budget will be