 Me and him, we met, I was 15 turning 16, so before him I didn't know who I was, you know. I was very quiet, I was shy, you know, I got into things that little girls get into. How I met him is an interesting story. He might tell you something completely, something different. I'm going to tell you the truth. He's going to make you sound like I was always the one. Before me and my wife, you know, I was a 16 year old kid, pretty regular 16 year old kid, but what kind of separated me from all of my friends was I wasn't too concentrated on girls and dating and stuff like that. My whole life was dedicated to basketball. I took my basketball everywhere, to the store, to funerals, to church, to any literally any way I went. And because of my dedication to basketball, I became one of the best players in Best Style Brooklyn. You know what I'm saying? We had people coming from Flatbush, come into my block just to play me a basketball. It was that real. But we're going to get comments. We're like, yeah, okay, I know that you're going to answer Bush. That's a fact. So you might probably see some people, you know what I'm saying? But it was straight basketball. So how I used to spend my days, I'll play ball all day long and then I'll go inside my house and I'll play the piano for the rest of the night. I was a super boring kid, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? So my dad, he grew up in the music industry and he's done music with Mariah Carey, the temptations. He's done a lot of music productions. You know what I'm saying? And he taught me how to play the piano. The piano was his thing. So me wanting to be like my dad more than anybody in the world, because he was such a positive role model in my life, I took after that. You know, dad, can you teach me how to play the piano? And he'll literally teach me how to play songs. And I would literally play the same like four or five songs all night until I could like perfect it and even add my own little, you know what I'm saying? Some alpeggios that I've never played before. You know what I'm saying? To the songs. And that was me, bro, every day. I literally had two girlfriends before I met my wife. Me and my girls, we were supposed to go to a movie theater in Brooklyn to see Fat Albert. Or was it a scary movie? I can't even remember now. But anyway, whatever movie that was, it was sold out. So we had to go to the city and as we're getting out the train station, we walked, I mean the train, we walked up the stairs to go to the street. And my friend was looking at him and she kind of like tripped up the stairs because she wasn't paying attention. And he started laughing or whatever. Talking to girls was not something that I used to do. So how we met, I always tell a man, every time I tell a story, I'm like, it was just a match made of heaven. It was supposed to happen. That's what she said. Yeah. I really believe it was supposed to because it was Christmas of 2004. Super cold outside, bro. But you know, my dad had just bought me some Jordans. You know what I'm saying? Back in the days, Dickies was smelling yourself. You know what I'm saying? I was flea, oh, he flea, bro. You know what I'm saying? So I was out far rock away from my brother chilling with him, you know, new outfit or I'm about to go chill my balls, you know what I'm saying? So I'm out there and then something told me, man, you don't even got to spend the night out here this weekend, bro, like, let's get back to the crib. So I got back on the train and as I'm coming in the gate, my dad, his cousin and my brother-in-law was walking out the gate. So I'm like, yo, where y'all going? I ain't even getting the house yet. I'm at the gate. They're like, yo, we about to go see Fat Albert. You want to come? I'm like, hell, yeah, you want to come. You know what I'm saying? I'm already dressed too. I got these new sneakers I want to show off. It was the white, it was the white in week 13s. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, they had just dropped. You know what I'm saying? So like, yeah, I want to go like so. So we hop on the train. We go to the movie theater downtown Brooklyn. There's a brand new movie theater, right? So with that being said, anybody want to go there now? Bro, the line was literally down the block across the street and around the corner to see Fat Albert. So we like, yo, ain't no way we waiting on this line, not in the cold, bro, to see a movie is clipped. So my dad didn't want to give up. So he was like, yo, let's hit 42nd street up. You know, they got a huge movie theater out there. There's no way it's locked. I'll be like this. Let's try it. If it's too packed over there, then we just not going to see it tonight. Like, all right, fine, no problem. I'm saying we all hop on the train, right? The story, this part of this is where the story gets weird. You know what I'm saying? So we hop off the train. I see a group of girls, right? Three girls. And I didn't see the dude get though. So one of the girls, we walk, if I had braids and stuff like that, long braids and stuff. So one of the girls run up to me and she literally bro, just looking at me like standing right on the side of me, like less than two feet away, like invaded my whole private space, bro. Just looking at me like this on some silly stuff. So I'm looking at her and mind you, I'm a shy dude. I don't even know what to really do or say, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? So I'm just looking at like, I see. She was choosing. Definitely, bro. Definitely. Like I didn't understand that at the moment. But so I'm just like, yo, I, but I don't know. I was low key flattered because, you know, I had girls like me but not do no brave shit like that. Like come up and you know what I'm saying? Somehow we end up in the same movie theater, the same movies. Like we were waiting outside. I guess they were cleaning the movie theater. So the whole everybody that had tickets were just waiting outside. And he was over there with, I don't know, he was with his people. I was with mine. And then they were like, yo, that's that dude. That's that dude that she was staring at. And we was just laughing or whatever. And we ended up in the movie theater. Somehow he ended up sitting next to me. And from what my friend told me, when we went out, me and my other friend, it was three of us, four of us, we went out to go get our snacks or whatever. And he asked my friend, like, who's that girl? She was like, oh, that's that boy that, that boy that's with us. That's her boyfriend. So you can't talk to her. But the one I'm sitting next to, she's single. You could talk to her. So it's like, okay, I came back. And the movie start, he's just staring at me, not even watching the movie. He's just staring. And I'm like, why are you staring at me? And then I'm with my dad too. So I kind of like the man. I'm thinking of making my dad proud. I never brought no girls around. So when he see that, I'm like, oh, yeah, you see girls like me, dude. Hey, you know what I'm saying? We out here. So boom, we go into the movie theater and we go up to the floor without movies playing, we go straight up to the floor. It's still packed up there. But at least we got to build it. I hips look over. I'm like, some girls that was in the train station. So I'm like, all right, man, I see they wait for the same movie we about to go see. So I'm like, your dad, those girls over there, I think they like me, bro. So when this movie starts, I'm gonna go sit with them wherever they sitting at. Never did us anything like that a day in my life, bro. But this day I was brave, bro. I really think it was the sneakers, bro. You feel me? I was sourced up. So I was like, all right. So we go sit down. There's an empty chair right at the end of the aisle. There's Jalisa, her friend Tara, her other friend, Jessica, and Jessica's boyfriend. Okay. Now, Jessica was the girl that came walking up to me looking me in the face while her boyfriend was there. So as soon as I sit down, right, Jalisa right there, she looked at her friend. She's like, no, this dude did not come over here and sit next to us. Who do you think he is? Like, you know what I'm saying? So they laughing. So Jalisa and the girl that came with her boyfriend, Jessica, they got up and went to the bathroom, right? So when they got up, the girl, Tara, she was like, yo, yo, yo, you. Like, what's up with girl? I wasn't really attracted to Tara. She was a bigger girl, but she was cool as hell. She's like, yo, that girl that was looking at you when the train station, that's her boyfriend right there. Wait, at the time when she walked up to you, he was right there or he met them at the train station? He probably, I don't know. I want to hope that he wasn't in the train station because if so, that was completely disrespectful. I really want to hope that he met them at the movie theater. I really want to believe that. I never asked Jalisa that. I always thought that he was just there and Jessica just got on some brave shit and just did that. But I think that's what happened, bro. So either way, you know, Tara telling me, she's like, yo, the girl, the life skin girl, no, that's her boyfriend. She's like, but the girl you sitting next, right next to, she's single. You can go for her. Now I remember her face. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, oh, the girl was cute. You know what I'm saying? She was cute too. I liked her outfit and all that. She was looking nice. So when I go, word, I'm saying no more. You know what I'm saying? So when they came back, bro, literally, bro, this is how much game I didn't have, bro. She come back, she sit right here. The movie comes on, bro. I'm literally like this. She said that too. Literally, bro, like this, talking to her. The screen is this way. I don't know what's going on in the movie. I'm talking to her like this, saying the stupidest stuff. Y'all know how to braid. I'm thinking I'm impressive. I said, I don't know how to braid. I'm thinking I'm impressive. You know what I'm saying? My dumb ass, I told her I had a kid. I'm thinking I'm impressive, bro, like, because I clinked my nephew as my son. Like, yeah, I got a kid. You know what I'm saying? I'll be changing diapers and all that. I'm thinking this is what girls like. I'm not knowing that. I'm making myself sound foolish, but that's how much risk I didn't have. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. He said something because I don't know. He said something you're nice to look at or something like that. I can't remember exactly what it was. And the whole movie, he's just staring at me and saying silly things like I got a son. He didn't. I don't know. What else did he say to me? I don't know. Just craziness, crazy things he was saying to me. I'm like, just watch the movie. He's like, I'd rather watch you. I love the game right there. Yeah, at the end of the movie, he was like, can I get your number? I was like, nah, but you could put yours in my phone. He's like, you got a promise to call me. I'm like, okay. And he did. And that's how we met. I did call him at night. Actually, he didn't answer them, but he called me back. By the end of that night, I was like, yo, you know what I'm saying? I told her the whole time, like, yo, I gave him my phone number. I didn't have a cell phone. Like, yo, just promise me you'll call me tonight, man. Like, you know what I'm saying? Because I was starting to like him for some reason. I don't know. I think I fall in love easy or something like that, bro. Like, yo, just promise me you call me or whatever. So she was like, all right, I will. I ain't believe her. Got to the crib. I forgot her name and all that. Yeah, I forgot her name. So we get to the house. I see Jalissa Sweet pop up on the call ID. Like, I've never seen this before. Picked it up. It was shorty. So we spoke all night long, bro. And by the end of that conversation, I was like, yo, you my girlfriend. And she was like, okay. And that's how that happened, bro. Did y'all live in the same part of town? Did y'all live in different high schools? So I was living in Bestar. She was in Crown Heights. That's about to get to our house and probably like 15 minutes on the bus. Okay, okay. Yeah. So she was probably in reality probably about two or three miles away from me. So y'all might have ran into each other at some point anyway, type. Yeah, okay. Later on in the relationship, I found out she used to come up to my school. My school was one of the smallest schools in like history, bro. 600 people at Max Capacity, Acorn Community High School down in Brooklyn. And but we used to throw some fire parties like our parties was fire. So other schools from around Brooklyn used to come to us and evidently she used to come to us on them. So we've probably seen each other in passing, but you know, just never paid any mind to each other type stuff. Yeah, bro. Yeah. So that's how we met man. We literally did grow up together. Because we were kids. We had no idea what real relationships actually take. And then we had a lot of growing pains, going through things. I mean, everybody goes through things. We still go through things. So it's never perfect. Just learning what each other want and what we don't want. And then again, from being 16 to now, that changes because what you want as a kid, you don't want it as a adult or vice versa, whatever. We we got children. So, you know, as a whole not the level to things. Because now we got other people that we got to worry about other people that we have to make happy. And sometimes you get put on the back burner. Our relationship now, it's pretty steady. We go through things and we get over them. Our kids are a lot to do with our relationship right now, just raising them and trying to we have different parenting styles. So that kind of throws in a little wrench in our relationship. He's more strict. I'm not, I'm more easy going. Yeah. I think that me and him made it work because we chose to. Like you wake up, you have to wake up every day and choose that person over and over. Think about what, what can I do for you today? How can I help you today? What will make you smile? That's kind of what we're doing. Last thing, brother, we need to talk. Ah, let's do it. Shout out to them. We need to talk. We need to talk. One, we need to talk too. I don't know. But what was the concept behind we need to talk? What is it that you and your wife are trying to accomplish? What would you say is your mission statement? What are y'all trying? Right. So we need to talk our rendition. We need to talk. Um, it started because it was a, a relationship slash parent slash friend slash military couple type thing. You understand what I'm saying? So typically in a relationship when either the husband or the wife hears we need to talk is usually something serious. You know, not saying it's detrimental to the relationship, but it could be bills. It could be somebody that said the wrong thing to one of your kids, but we need to talk is usually something serious. And that's what we, um, we try to, we try to keep our topics on serious, on real life relationships, parenting, and friendships. You understand what I'm saying? So it came about, man. One time, me and Jalissa was just sitting down, bro. We was in, um, this is before the pandemic. This was back in like 2018. We was still living in Brooklyn and I was trying to figure things out. But I was like, babe, I'm really like, shoot music videos no more. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm going to do something. I want to do something that's more authentic to, to me. You know what I'm saying? And, um, we just had a whole talk. And she was like, that'd be good for a show. That'd be a cool topic for a show. We should start like a podcast or something. So honestly speaking, we needed to talk was her idea, bro. It was her idea. So I was like, hmm, you're right. But then I also knew my wife was a shy, very shy woman. So she was really talking about, you can do this. No, she wanted to be there too. Really? Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, she wanted to be there too. So what I did, this is part of knowing your, your woman and knowing your spouse. I slowly inched her into the entertainment, being behind the camera. Slowly, I'll do something like, hey, baby, let's go out and take some pictures or something like that. Or I'll be at a dinner date with her and, you know, keep that pose right there. And I'll get her used to being behind the lens and having eyes on her and I'll post it. And I'll say, oh, man, look, look what this person like you're dressing to get her warmed up. And then eventually by the time we moved down here to North Carolina, we was able to shoot our first episode, bro. And she did pretty damn well. We spoke about the first time we met, our first date because I stood her up on our first date, which was horrible. Yeah, that was terrible. That's terrible. But, um, yeah, but that's how that's how we need to talk came up, bro. And we've been loving it. You know what I'm saying? And I love, we love your content as well, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? So I'm happy that we are, we need to talk family. I don't believe there's a one and two. I believe that we are, we need to talk family because look at us collabing right now and you're gonna have you on ours as well. So, you know what I'm saying? It's a family, bro. You know what I'm saying? Hopefully like people could see like this collaboration and see that there's no bad blood, no malice between nobody. We have a similar name, different brands. You see, my logo is completely different from yours. You know what I'm saying? So, but it's just the fact that we can come over and we can talk. Absolutely. We need to talk. Especially the black people. Oh yes, sir. I love the color of this skin, man. I love it. Why did y'all steal my name? And like, what is your, what is your goal with the podcast? That was my fault. I didn't, I didn't know about you, but he was asking with some topics and I mean, some names that we can go and I thought about that only because we were going to talk about like relationship things. And you see on TV, like back in the days when the wife said we need to talk and it's like, oh, that kind of thing. That's why. He wanted to start it and I just joined him. This is not something that I would do on my own. So he just wants to promote togetherness like and bring a voice to men and their feelings.