 Hey, it's time for tech talk here on voiceover body shop where we answer your questions and show you all the latest in tech and George is in a studio in Portland, Oregon Portland Oregon rec studios you're gonna hear a lot about this amazing facility We've got a bunch. We got another video from Nam from IK multimedia Questions from the audience covering Dawes and should I use this one or that one and more stuff? I should stick around. 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Michael Collins demos award-winning demo production voice actor websites comm where your voice over website won't be a pain in the butt And voiceover extra your daily resource for V.O. success And now live from their super-secret multimedia studio in Sherman Oaks, California Here are George Whidham and Dan Leonard And we're back Here at voiceover body shop time for some tech talk So George are at Rex post in Portland. Tell us a little bit about this studio. Oh, man Rex post I got to go on a really quick walking tour and we shot some video as well So maybe in post we'll have time at some point to fly in some footage because this place is so big that if I walked you around on On Zoom or something you'd go over the horizon. It wouldn't come over that well So we're gonna get some footage for you guys and fly it in before this tech talk episode goes up online, but I Did see a few sections of it Houston. He's one of the engineer Houston. Are you at what's your title? Houston's an engineer facilities been here for over three years And he did take me on a walking tour of this place It is amazing when I was walked into what room we'd be using my eyes bugged out of my head Immediately and why is that? Not expecting to have I'm in a room that could easily serve as a scoring stage for a small orchestra And in fact, I'm gonna show you I've got an extra Xillary camera going thanks to Jutt my friend Justin Also known as Jutt. He's been doing this for you friend for many many years from Pennsylvania who lives here in Portland He's gonna at least show us the room that we're in It's a beautiful scoring stage that they use for looping And a lot of other things, you know studios that have been in business for many years They have to evolve with the market And so I'm sure when this place was built music was a big thing here and nowadays it's gonna be stuff for television stuff for film voiceover looping and that's what this room is set up for Justin's kind of painting the camera around you can see how it's just a beautiful space when you walk in the acoustics are Just a tiny bit lively Just they have like a the decay just drops away after about a second It's a really nice sounding space and comfortable behind me is a an iso booth so you can have a voice actor work solo in here and Then there's a very impressive control room space behind me. What's the name of the desk in there? Amec Angela desk which if you're an audio engineering geek you might know what that is But it's a it's one of the classic analog boards that you don't see too often anymore And they keep that thing and is this studio one or studio a this is studio one And and it's really quite quite a really nice place one tech thing I will mention just because it was mentioned to me and I you know, I can geek out about this I love this stuff the air conditioning system in this building and I'm gonna switch back to my camera here in three two Yeah, the air conditioning in this building is Looks like it looks like it's on the ceiling like if you look at the outside of the building on the ceiling on the roof I mean is a huge air handler unit typical But what's really amazing is it's actually not sitting on the roof of the building It's sitting on columns that pass all the way through the building Decoupled from the rest of the building and run all the way down into the ground into the earth down below in the foundation So all the noise that would normally get transmitted into a building from the air conditioning and you guys know Any of you working voice to do voice over in apartment buildings or office buildings know how hard this is They don't have that problem here the air conditioning. I know it's on because the room in here is perfect temperature All I can hear is like a little hum from maybe my my laptop fan in here. That is it. It is Amazing so studios like this. They're just aren't that many around anymore They're very expensive to build to this quality to have the level of noise floor that they have and so if you have an Opportunity to come in and work in a studio like this Or even if you're visiting a city and you have to bang out an audition or a really important audition or a job Take advantage of studios like this if you have that opportunity once in a while Don't always try to be completely self-reliant. It's fun to have the gear We love geeking out about the mixer face and all that stuff But take an opportunity when you're traveling to take advantage of studios like this because they are just it's an Special experience to work here in a place like this and tonight. We're here Because of Karen O'Brien. He's been a friend of the show Karen She's here she she set this up for us. She's a client here she she's a part of the loop loop group that loops here and By the way for those that don't know looping is ADR and that's adding background sound Anything that's guttural voice sounds what we call walla anything in a movie or dubbing a redubbing? Lines and using carrots peas and carrots man. I mean again, that all happens here. Oh And the leader of the loop group himself the leader of the loop group Like vans the leader of this loop group. What is what you guys? What do you call your loop? rebel rebel loop is the name of the loop group that This is the this is the only loop group that operates outside of Los Angeles on the West Coast, so It's unique. But anyway, awesome place. I could go on But let's keep going. Let's keep going here. All right Thanks to to Karen and in Houston for helping you set up there and because it's working really well And you sound great. So that's really important and I know people there have some questions But first we we we still got a little bit of video from Nam Hey, you know, we shot a lot at now. We did and so it's like you know, that's right So we're one of the people we talked to was Dan at IK Multimedia because they got this these pairs of speakers Studio monitors that we thought everybody would be very interested in seeing because they're perfect for a home studio So let's roll that at NAMM 2019 here in Anaheim And we're with a great company that really has come into its own in the last couple of years I came Altimedia and we're talking with Daniel here great name by the way And we're really interested in these these these new speakers these micro I loud speakers that I K is making you tell us a little bit about them. Yes So these are the I loud micro monitors. There are desktop speakers. They're 50 watt Two-way bi-amplified They all have a DSP chip on the inside that makes sure that there's the the crossover is always accurate and that the Woofer and the tweeter are always aligned and coming at you from the sweet spot at the right time Yeah, and these are designed as near-field monitors there for yes very near-filled Very small form factor very mobile We do have a bag accessory that we can take with these But these are great for on the road a lot of people pop them next to their laptop You don't take up too much space and they get loud enough for you to hear everything But they're also accurate at the same time right. Yeah, 50 watts is gonna give a lot no connections on these Got all sorts of options here. Yes. So you have the RCA on the back and we did that for the small form factor And over here you have the different EQ settings which is with the DSP processing and then right here you also see that it is a bluetooth button We'd said it's add that since again. You're on the road You'll quickly pair it to your iPhone if you want to listen to a mix real quick on the fly and of course volume control on the back Wow, and what's the price point on the on these guys? Yeah, that micro monitors. They are 299 for the pair 299 for the pair. So alright, so they're portable they sound fabulous and Probably a really good option if you're looking for something It's not gonna take up a lot of space right in your home studio like a pair of other bigger monitors So Daniel, thanks so much for talking to us about it. I'm really impressed with IK these days guys really stepped up your game Thank you You know, I I've seen those around it you know, I've been at you know banjo and porium and I've seen them there and various other places and You know, they're they're not cheap I mean, that's you're still gonna pay a little bit more for those than you would say for a pair of those. Yeah Boes, yeah, or even you know, they're comparable to Yamaha's, but they're really small and so what I like about them I mean, they're they're very compact and they're made more or less Like the Genelec monitors that are very compact. They're made out of a machine aluminum casing So they're extremely rigid. You know the speakers don't a lot of smaller more compact speakers are made out of Not usually that they're usually made out of press board or other things and the speakers resonate and vibrate very badly And so they don't they don't have very accurate These are designed to give pretty accurate sound down to a pretty respectable frequency. If you're editing voiceover Completely they cover the whole range you would need for voiceover for sure. I mean really impressive Another thing that's funny is like while we were doing that interview Dan, remember we were we were behind another interview So it was a backdrop for another interview going on at the same time and in front of mine said I saw you and Dan on another video It was pretty funny. Yeah. Well, there was a lot of video being shot there that that You have to almost like get your elbow your way into the booth sometime and then grab one of these guys Do you want to do a video? It's like, of course, they want to do a video They want to get marketing, but it's kind of funny. You have to grab their attention Right, but like I said, iK has really made I mean used to be they they're the guys, you know for for iRig Uh, which was I mean it was basically an analog into your iPhone type of thing But they've really stepped it up and gone really well with the the digital stuff they have And at a fairly reasonable price point too. So uh, our thanks to the guys at iK Well, if any of you out there have a question for georgia I about home voiceover studios and we know you do because you send them to us all the time You know, if you don't right now and something comes up You can write to us at the guys at voice at v obs dot tv the guys at v obs dot tv And we're always happy to answer those and sometimes you write to us We might actually answer the question and ask you can we use this on the show? And like of course you can Uh, although I did get one this week where somebody had something a pc that had been set up And I promised her I wouldn't show the picture, but it was a pc Plugged into the input and output of the old sound card on it with there was an in and an out uh Two ways using xlr cables And i'm like, oh my goodness you you're only 20 years behind Uh, which was kind of interesting and she needed to learn You got to get an interface. So uh, you know, thanks. Thanks to her for for showing us that the picture is embarrassing enough It reminds me of our good friend the hydra right An adapter is a dangerous thing sometimes because just because there is an adapter that will go from an eighth inch mini Plug to an xlr on the other end does not mean You should use it in that context. Um, yeah Once in a blue moon someone will tell me they have like a mixer Going to the input on their pc and immediately i'm like And then i'll listen to it once in a while they get lucky and the sound is okay, and it's clean But generally bad idea bad idea. Yeah So yeah, don't go into the sound card. I mean on a mac it's almost impossible to do that on an old pc You know, I mean you don't use the mic input and it's amazing how many people we know that are still doing that And yeah, well idea PC is a lot of the tower ones especially have a line input and a mic input And they're going to have very different results if you use the wrong one The mic input generally is going to be extremely noisy cause you a lot of problems So definitely avoid it if you if you want to get an interface cheaply because you already have a mixer or a preamp Behringer makes this little gadget that's uca 202. I think it's like a 30 usb interface It just gives you a line in line out very simple But the quality is totally fine for for a home voiceover studio And um, I've found them to be a real a real sort of like swiss army knife emergency audio interface tool I keep them in my car Uh all the time because they they work really well. Yeah, it's always good to have a backup Especially if your audio interface goes down or you think it is if you've got a backup you can quickly find out if that's what's busted You know, yeah, absolutely. It doesn't have to be something expensive Like, you know, like a blue mic mate or something like that and you know, it's you know any port in the storm can help Anyway, I want me to get uh a representative from the studio to say a few words about Some of the what goes on here bring the man Okay, cool. If anybody if anybody is wants to just say a few words about Some of the things that rex has been doing because I personally want to know I didn't even get a chance To hear much about what's going on. So it's sitting down next to me is houston And my brother came up with a great joke earlier like everything about our show is about, you know Every week it's a pile of 13 and now if we have a problem Houston houston we have a problem That's what houston looks like I always wonder Houston give us an idea of um Um What what's what's kind of the day in day out for the facility like this? It's a pretty big place multi room Um, what's keeping it the most busy these days? Uh commercial definitely we do a lot of it's been a lot of time with commercial. Um So our commercial nine to five kind of work is but yeah keeps us going a lot of yeah But day to day we do so much that I You never know what's gonna happen. I mean today I have this Yeah, this is something that happens very rarely Um, I did a table read for play at the other day had an adr session this morning for a movie. Um It's just you know, there's so much that we end up doing it's it's So when you say not to be obtuse, but when you say a commercial session, what is it? I was building a commercial for tv radio going doing recording the voiceover doing sound design Yeah with a video editing side and so we've got Doing graphics to and wouldn't call her correction. I'm not very versed in the video editing myself So I think a lot of what they do with magic. Yeah. Yeah, but you guys are a bit of a somewhat of a soup to nuts studio where you can Bring a project from source to finish we can start yeah from from we can go all the way from production We have cameras and lights the crew you know we can pull together crew and get a Commercial from start to finish all the way out. Has it always been known as rex post? At least so yeah for a long time. Um I believe the guy who owns it is owned it Let's see. He is In the mid 70s now. Um, yeah head engineer Rushed course line and he's I believe he's had it since the 70s. No kidding. So it's always been intended to be a Post facility, but but it's got a lot of live production post. Yeah So I was you asked that we had moved into this building. Um about 20 years ago. Yeah And and this building was a studio previous prior. Yes, Russ rusburger design studio was built in the 1980s I know that name If you have a studio designed by a guy like rusburger, it's serious stuff Yeah, it's uh, it's quiet. Wait, there's a train that runs right on the other side of this wall. Wow And On maybe a day that it's full packed to the brim and you have a large diaphragm condenser turned way the hell up You might hear it. You might you might hear you might hear a little Little rumble, but for most part. Well, you know norman deal in 103 or something. It's like a seismograph Right. Oh, yeah Yeah, I have so many voice actors who have that mic particularly, you know, and it's it's a real challenge for them To keep the noise floor down. Is that it was the way the 170 you got behind us the 170 is a really cool mic actually Love it. I don't see you use that much. It's sort of a more mellow 103, right? It's smoother top Correct overly bright. Um, so in this room in the booth behind us, we have a u67 which is in the shop right now. Um and 170 which There's there's some people that the 67 is that's it and if they don't work on the 67 Then they're definitely working on the 170, but if they don't work on the 170, then they're definitely working on the woods It's like yeah for some hierarchy there. Yeah So it's more of like a sound is there people who either work on that mic or they work on that mic I've got a client use 67 Guy and we've got a backup mic and we've worked we rotate them The shot because a vintage u67 is temperamental. Oh, yeah. Oh gosh. Oh, yeah That's why they make a new one for a cool Oh, wait a hundred eight thousand dollars. Yeah. Oh, yeah, they make a new one nice nice and expensive. Um Well, I mean and then I'm seeing a massive rack of headphones over there What would be a scenario where you'd need 20 pairs of headphones in this room a choir a choir? Yeah choir, um Sometimes sometimes we'll use we'll pull out a bunch of you know With the looping I'll give the we probably do maybe six or seven at a time Yeah, uh with with the headphones, but yeah the choir the choir What else large bands what we do large bands like we'll do um We'll IST and we'll record the band here and IST in it to a radio show somewhere else And so a lot of you oftentimes they will have a lot of players coming in and that's yeah That'll give us that'll get us the the need for headphones like that Also, half these headphones go out Um gigs we'll take them to you know, yeah So someone's doing a live recording another engineer here's going on do a live recording They'll take some pair, you know, someone's doing a shoot that'll take some pairs and It's nice to have just a lot of it. It's always fascinating to you know to see what goes on in in different facilities There's uh, you know, as you it's a very multi-use studio and some places are You know more specific than others, you know might be in you know, just simply an adr stage or Something along those lines. So it's really cool to see You know these types of facilities in other places because we just see the ones here in la and You know, that's what I was saying like I You know, I'm a little I've been in la since 2004. So this is something I'm accustomed to seeing in la So to walk into a facility like this in portland is like, whoa Um, it's it's really amazing and it's cool to see Stuff like this thriving in other markets other cities. So yeah Yeah, yeah, houston. Thank you questions for houston Uh, I I think he answered them all Awesome. Hey, thanks a lot. Thank you. Thanks for coming. Thanks for letting us in All right. 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So It's a it's a nice tool to have well, I had um been using audition for the longest time and Had heard the talk about between twisted wave and in studio one and I got the It's a little macro thing for doing punch and roll and audition and it's it works, but it's a bit of a mess Yeah, and so that You know, how do you think it compares for somebody who does audiobook narration like I do? and compare between twisted wave and studio one It's just it's just a pretty different workflow like if you're if are you are you specifically talking about doing punch and roll recording Well, I need to have a nice efficient punch and roll system because it just dramatically Cleans up how much post-production you have to do and And stuff like that. I guess particularly if you've got some decent plugins running That that you can run stuff through because uh, you know, my big hang up now is post-production Right. Yeah, and if you're yeah, if you're doing post then you're gonna need a system like that so right I mean, then you've done a lot of audiobooks in the past with twisted wave and audition For you, did you ever feel like you're missing out like not having no not really? I mean, you know, unlike a lot of people I really enjoy editing and and I like enjoying editing my own stuff So, uh, you know, it was easy for me to use twisted wave one because twisted wave is extremely reliable On long format stuff. It's because it's a simpler program You can hit record and you know you can record for an hour and 20 minutes And it's going to be there when you come out of the booth Which is pretty important. Uh, and then just using a code of being able to edit You've got to go back and edit the crossover points with uh, with punch and roll anyway So it's a philosophical thing. You know, I'm sure a lot of audiobook people out there going You know what he's talking about Well To each his own Yeah, I mean that's the thing Jeff, I mean they're they're definitely apples and oranges those two programs And they're capabilities So it's very hard for me to compare them and not not doing what you do day to day I can't say one's going to be clearly better than the other just sure But twisted wave just every time I try to find a faster way to do something in another program I always go man, but I'll twist a wave I can do this. Yeah Right forum asking a question on the audacity forum or on the studio one forum or whatever and then They'll summon will answer. Yeah, all you have to do is a b c d e f and I'll go but on twisted wave I have to do a b Yeah, exactly Is uh twist a wave able to do most of your post production as well like bringing in all your vst Three plugins and stuff like that no issue like rx7 and all you're talking about plugging bringing plugins Yeah, yeah, absolutely and twist the way you can loot load vst plugins and au plugins Create a stack Apply them in a stack or in a or in a batch Um, and you can do all that. Yeah, so you can't mix That's the main thing twist a wave is an editor And studio one is a full-blown mix mixing and multitrack production Environment. Yeah. All right. Well, we got somebody there. Thank you. Yeah. Thanks. Jeff We got somebody there in portland who's got a question anybody got up the nerve Got one front loaded here She comes Karen O'Brien. You're on the air Hey Good to see you. Good to see you um, my question is or more like a discussion topic I was just in the uh booth over there talking with one of the engineers here at rex post and we're talking about Um source connect versus ip dtl I love that. Good night everybody. We'll see you later All right No, but I just wanted to know, you know, what what your guys Thoughts is on the bridging services because is dn is, you know Copper-based and it's going away and all that kind of stuff. It's dying. This is so we've heard So we've heard what do you think of the bridging services? Um Dan, have you used any of that stuff yet? I want once or twice and uh, you know, they work Usually with a bridging service you're gonna get a little bit of delay Uh, you know, which will you know, if you're listening if you're hearing the speakers on the other end in the studio You're working with it will drive you insane Um, but you know as long as you know, they're they're you're muting you Backwards you could they're usually pretty good. Uh, and they will work Uh, of course, I'm of the belief if you design your studio, right Just using some of these systems Simply as a talk back system and you're recording in your own your own your own studio It should be fine. Uh, and you know, I think some some companies are like, well, we want that audio here right now We don't want to wait for you to give it to us and which I think is kind of silly, but It's an old workflow that they adopted from doing istn session, right? No, they're used to that. Yeah, but but they do work Yeah, I the the iptical system Um runs on a web browser, right? So it's running on chrome or they have their own package that they've created a little app that runs it um And source connect now is that it's sort of the competitor to that where it runs on chrome and um I use source connect now regularly to do support like if i'm doing listening to a studio real time Doing presets i'll listen on source connect now and I can tell you every three to six months chrome changes something And it breaks right and that's the problem with any platform that relies on a web browser like chrome chrome they change something under the hood and surprise That's the problem whereas some of the source like source connect. It's an app that they control It's their own app and so it's nowhere near as susceptible to weirdnesses like that So i'm a bridging standpoint Maybe the source connect bridge could be more reliable But the iptical bridge is slicker like it's It's fully baked in to the web page. It was really designed to do that. Yeah So, yeah Yeah, it's they both have advantages. Yeah, if you're doing anything that's sync Uh to picture right or to it's not wild like most of what you guys record is wild track Which means there's nothing that you're syncing to you're just reading really rare, but if it's sync Which is rare. Um, you have to use source connect because it's it retains sample rate accurate sync To the sample throughout the whole session Whereas something that runs on chrome that system can't do that So it can actually drift slightly in time and go out of sync and It's it's a nightmare for the engineers to line up later. Yeah, that's an ex-genuiting circumstance But it's a problem sometimes the moral is be kind to your engineers And if they say we use this you go, that's what you're gonna use money. I just happen to have that What are the odds you have to have all the tools? Yeah, I mean it's and it's and it's good Perhaps, you know, they all offer like a free trial on it So yeah, you take a test drive kick the tires See, you know, see what works with each one of them see what works with your particular workflow And uh, and that's why they do it because they want you to compare Yeah, all right We got any other questions george or we uh pretty much ready to wrap things up here I think we I think we can wrap it up I mean keeping an eye on that the chat rooms and facebook and on the Web page, uh, let me just take one last glance at the web page Sometimes we get a few that pop in at the very end Any solutions for non mac people that want to use twisted wave T-man asks, um, yeah, they have their like web twisted wave, which is clever I had to admit But features wise it's heavily stripped down So it's not there's if you're not on mac twisted wave is still a mac Platform app, unfortunately. Yeah kiff vandenhoof will actually has an answer for that. Hey I can I can sit sit sit sit. No, we got the audience cam here. There we go Audience cam. Oh, hi there. Uh, I'm a non mac user. I use exclusively pc and Uh, as great as twisted wave is I find audacity to be Remarkably versatile and I record everything in audacity. Um, yeah, and uh, Not only doing the multi-track and using different plugins for compressors and that kind of stuff, but um, uh for long form recording And the the the only learning curve for me with audacity initially was just getting downloading a mp3 Oh, george, what is it the mp3 thing that you have to the lame library? That's the lame library you install that and then you can export mp3s, but from batch processing to, um Uh, to multi-track stuff for doing sound design. I find it to be an incredibly versatile program Occasionally if I leave my computer on too long it likes to lock up So it's not the world's most reliable thing But I've never lost anything that I've done even if it locks up and I lose it It's got a wonderful recovery built into it. Um, I can't recommend audacity enough for a non mac user And even for a mac user audacity gets better and better and better I mean it does. I mean there there it's constantly evolving. Yeah, I'll give the caveat emptor, which is kind of ironic since it's free but Yeah, really? The thing about audacity is I've been bit by this recently It's developed by a bunch of coat Geniuses, but they're all doing it voluntarily and they'll just arbitrarily. Let's go. Oh, let's make this chain thing and call it macros And let's just put it over here instead, right um And that really caused a lot of stress and confusion to me and my customers Because now all my instructions the videos I have on youtube Nothing makes sense anymore because it's all referring to Something that was there before they get to do them all again. That's right. Yeah I think they're thinking about your they're trying to make sure that you've got job security, george If you're if you're decoding their software, they've got they got to stay ahead of you I'm looking out for you the voice actor. That's right. Yeah, there you go But no, it's no audacity constantly improves functionality and It's right. You can absolutely do everything Strictly not to ask you absolutely and just to throw a quick shout out to to source connect I've recently become the um the brand voice for ifc channel And i've been doing a ton of sessions for those guys and we do source connect sessions and uh, it's just it's such a smooth transition of the difference of worrying about an isdn connection Holding or you know, do I had this set up right because it's old or something like that the source connect situation has been spectacular with those guys and uh, it's it's such a tremendous and easy program to use Awesome, man. Well, that's good to hear. We've only been waiting like eight years for to hear that so uh Anyway, well if that's not enough home voiceover studio technology for you to digest this uh this week Yes, absolutely We'll try and cover it next week as well. 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It's right here You can see that uh, yeah Yeah, come on over and uh, and check us out see what we do I've got uh, you know analysis of your audio and we'll see how it sounds Which is really important and if you need a full consult We can talk about that to make sure you are sounding you are best Who are our donors of the week if you have access to that information at the tip of your digital fingers there I actually do I I got a some that are very much regulars to the show, uh, andy andrew kaufman Um, I've got in the queue here, uh, joseph valadinetti Thanks. I didn't say his name right. I'm sure of that Uh antlamp productions our buddy uncle roi Yes icon. 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