 Welcome into the Dave Trumbo show. I'm Joe Wombo joining now with Dave Trumbo, head coach of the indoor women's volleyball team and beach volleyball team, and now we'll talk about beach volleyball. You guys are going to head up to, head down to UNC Wilmington and play a lot of Division I schools there. Yeah. Well, there's only going to be Division I schools there. Thankfully, South Carolina, who's number 10 in the country, is not on our schedule because they'll be there as well. We did know this when we were getting in, you know, that this was going to be a challenging weekend. We've had weekends where we probably, frankly, haven't been pushed. We've had weekends that we've really been pushed, and going down to UNC Wilmington will be one of those weekends when we're really pushed. It's going to be interesting to see how we stack up compared to last year with some of these teams. And it's going to be an awfully important, I mean, a lot of the girls need that pushing that you mentioned about, and you're going to get it out of this weekend. Yeah, some of the things that I mentioned in practice constantly, the smaller errors don't show up when they're playing a team that's weaker. Very much like indoor. If you send a free ball over, it really doesn't matter if the other team can't put the ball down on your side, you know. But it's the same thing for indoor or for beach, that if you don't take care of the ball, it's on your side. If you give something easy to the other side, or you decide you're not going to block that time against a really powerful hitter, you're going to eat it. So when you play better teams, the small things that you might think are small aren't so small anymore when you play the really high-powered Division 1 teams. Well, you mentioned things that, you know, the small things doing the small things right and they'll be big things as the game goes on. Well, you guys are going to head out to the small college national championships. Those little things are going to be awfully important. Yeah, we really do think this is a great preparation for the small college national championship. Just an hour ago I stole the preliminary pools and I think they're real good. And we absolutely can compete with every team that's there, Division 2 or Division 3. Those are the schools that will be playing the smallest college national championship. So last year we got to the semifinals and now there's twice as many teams this year as Beaches is growing but we've played a lot of these teams already. So we know where we stack up and I know against the best teams there we really competed. So I'm really looking forward to that and I'm hoping that this weekend at UNCW will really set us up to have a great weekend in Florida. I imagine it would be. I mean the girls try so hard, play so hard every point. You're going to learn some positive lessons out of the UNC trip. Yeah, it's going to be a real test for the partnership. It is very easy to be happy and talk and just when you're winning. And the same thing happens in any sport, not just indoor volleyball. When things don't go well, people start to be quiet and start to drop their heads. But this is a real lesson that we're talking about in practice of staying together no matter what. It's easier said than done but you talk about those little things. When you lose a match 15-13, oh my goodness, when you've worked so hard. So many times it's just a couple points that separate you from winning a match and losing. And in beach volleyball it could be a gust of wind. You guys are going to be practicing and playing in the outdoor conditions and wind and rain and all of it. Every time out it is something a little bit different than it was the day before. Where are the winds blowing from? How hard the sand is? Whether it's raining, whether the sun's in your eyes, what the temperature is? Do I need to wear my sand socks today? Do I not need to wear my sand socks today? Do I need gloves? So all those things change every time out. So the more time you play, the more opportunities you have to learn from those conditions that particular day. You guys have been learning a lot of lessons and progressing a heck of a lot. And we wish you the best of luck into this UNC tournament and then following it quickly with the Siesta and Fiesta key. Yes, we're looking forward to that. Thanks Joe. He's Dave Trumbo, I'm Joe Wamba and this has been the Dave Trumbo Show.