 This Bobby Lee and Theo Von comedy clip is going viral right now, but let's break down why yeah This went viral last week and a ton of people sent me this clip to analyze that Are not even in the comedy at all. So that's what I knew. Anyway, let's run it, you know, do Chinese people do they have like, well, can I ask you something? Yeah And I honestly believe this I believe that you don't know what I am Because several times in this podcast, you've referred to China and then you look at me. Do you think I'm Chinese? I don't know if you are no Be honest. I don't care if you are I don't I don't I know you I know you know, I know, you know I know that you don't care that I am. Okay. Yeah, I know that you don't care, right? I mean, I do care, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter to you. You're welcome around me I know you love me regardless. Yeah, right, but it is information that you should Fucking Okay, well chill, bro It's information you should fucking memorize because I've known you for 20. You know, whatever dude No, that's not about chill or not chill Right, it's about Memorize that shit dude because every time I see you dude, it's like china china you people in china Why do you guys eat this? You know me? How come you guys run this way? How come you fly? You don't know to fly or whatever Whatever you're fucking saying is I'll I'll be happy to fucking answer those questions, but memorize what the fuck I am My bad, dude I'm chinese very seldomly do do clips resonate like this throughout the asian american sphere. I mean, I guess Like the last things I can think of that I would compare to this is like Russell peters back in the day was like you're gonna get a hundred real bad Then ali wang with the asian men's bodies are smooth like dolphins or ronnie chang's I hope you get rich this On an internet virality level within the asian american sphere. I put it on that level Yeah, and I think there's a couple main discussions coming out of it It's one talking about bobby lee and him kind of representing asians in this Comedian podcast sphere because there's not that many asian comedians that are in that podcast, right? You're saying that's one of the discussions that sparked off of this. Yeah I mean even though ronnie chang is big obviously shang wang ali wang They're not doing the podcast route, right? And then also another discussion is about like how still to this day to especially people like theovon That an asian-looking person or or a chinese passing person will just be considered chinese Right and theovon is from rural louisiana. So it's like he's representing I guess more of like a very middle middle america perspective not this like coastal undergraduate grad school type of vibe Right, we're going to be talking about it. So please hit that like button check out other episodes of the hot pop boys real quick smileasauce.com pre-orders are still going on right now, although they are ending somewhat soon So get your finishing oil right here made with truffle made in the usa Uh, really fun to use goes well on everything smileasauce.com from Sichuan assist me real quick I think uh, it was interesting because there was a discussion about bobby lee's place in the asian world re-sparked again because uh I feel like for a while Maybe the first 15 years of his career or like 10 years of his career bobby was kind of considered outside of the asian world You know what I mean? And then more recently with the podcast Obviously he had an asian female co-host of filipino co-host for a long time or actually two filipino co-host He sort of sort of re-entered the asian-american consciousness Yeah, and I think a lot of people who are very very much into comedy if you're just into comedy You're like, okay bobby lee. He's a legend. He's still funny. He says some crazy stuff. He's clearly funny. Yeah, he's clearly funny um But then on the other side if you're more of like the I guess asian-american like Proud like a little bit more militant or an activist, which those are kind of different But you kind of feel probably the same way about bobby where you're like, ah, he's not the best representative of asians Like I wouldn't want him representing asians. I know he's funny But like I don't really like his stuff and what he like represents right because he also made some jokes against Vietnamese and filipino people, right? Yeah, I mean obviously he gets made fun of a lot like by other comedians because For a number of reasons him being asian is like part of it But then him like looking a certain way and being fat kind of a being a fat baby Yeah, like or or like I guess a person who never Grew into their 40s like you know what I mean like frozen in in freshman year I would say it seems like it appears like within the comedy world amongst the other Comedian juggernauts he he takes quite a beating Like he gets roasted a lot. Yeah, right, right But he sometimes he flips it, but I would say overall like 80 80 percent He's taken to but I'll say this about bobby lia as far as representing asians Then we're gonna get on to the conversation about how all asians just feel chinese at some point to you know Outside people but bobby to me. He's a comedian first and a comedian's job is to make it funny make you laugh Make interesting points say interesting things tell interesting stories to make the room right activate the room and just make you laugh Entertain you and I think bobby does that at a very high level So you're saying the the thought in the back of his head when he's making everybody laugh is not like Oh, am I making asians look strong or like countering stereotypes? That is not his goal He's more like working within the stereotypical frames. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. So I think if you're a comedian first He's doing fine But if he's like if you're looking for positive male asian male representation and asian masculinity No, you wouldn't look to bobby for that. Yeah, I would say though that overwhelmingly in a weird way I felt like 70 percent of the asian community used to be against bobby and 30 percent supported him But over the past five years with the podcast, I want to say it's like 50 50 or maybe even 60 40 pro bobby lia He so he shifted it But I think that's also because asians shifted too I think at a time asians were more sensitive and now they're like well All right bobby, you know, at least you know, he's had a career. Maybe you've met him Maybe you've seen a show. He's clearly a funny guy He and but and you're just like I guess you're glad that asian is out there that famous In that big I would say maybe it's possible too that he's become more proud too Yeah, I think so because I remember he was always funny even back in the mad tv days when he was like Yeah, my dad would tell me you're not a funny It was still good, but you kind of got he felt too much like, you know The one asian guy was like trying to play to the white gaze too much But now feels like he's more like on his own now like 50 50 I wouldn't put it past that this is kind of the arc for a lot of asians in media that It's very hard for them to be proud coming up because they didn't feel like asian supported them Or maybe they feel outside by the asian community the asian movement hadn't hit Yeah, the asian movement was not hitting now. It's a lot more beneficial and more comfortable to be asian He's also more comfortable in himself. He made it. He's rich now. He makes good money So he doesn't have to worry about his career And so yeah now he gets to lean a little bit more into the asian pride Is he ever going to be a militant korean? You know comedian never and I wouldn't expect it, but I think he does care more about being asian than ever Yeah, would even being a militant asian or militant korean even work No, probably not, but I bet he is more proud than he was maybe than ever before possibly so anyway guys Again, make sure you get the likes up on this video. Let's get into the comments section Somebody said omfmg because i'm pulling this off the neck shark ig Someone said another horribly out of context neck shark post. They are just comedians. They are effing around Everybody knows theo obviously knows bobby is korean. They are just being funny and someone said yes This is a bit so basically some asians are arguing that some asians don't understand comedy So do you I've been starting to see this a little bit because like you know how the more westernized asians They are thinking that they really understand comedy, but then some people who are not it's true That more traditional asians can be more offended by comedy. Yeah, but there's still even Thresholds within understanding for sure. I mean and not all comedy is the same and especially when you're cutting out podcast clips Things can get dicey out of context They did a whole podcast together probably that was probably an hour two hours long And this is just one of the bits inside of it. Is it completely fake does theo know that bobby's korean I'm sure theo knew that bobby was korean, but maybe he just didn't really think I don't I don't think he thinks too much. I don't think bobby sits there and tries to educate the nuances of asians to theo Yeah, but no, this is comedy. This is comedy run some of the clips brucey son the crowed die Oh, yeah, he died the one that got shot. I remember that. Yeah, he was the first one to do that You know, I mean, oh wow, he was handsome handsome dude. This dude was she goes. I met someone younger I looked him up. That's what he looks like. Oh man, and then you see photos of them like at pool parties and he's ripped No, yeah, so I was like, oh you're more together Then you know your Body styles. No, I wouldn't say I wouldn't use the term ripped probably Yeah, I mean, but what else about him? No, but no, what I'm saying though, dude is And I just Just said that I'm fat. I don't think you're fat at all I think you But I'm the opposite of ripped I wouldn't see I would say you're I wouldn't say ripped. I would say you're ripe conjoined or conjoined Yeah, or joe. I would say you're there's two people in one body. I was like a Simon Like a Simon's twin thing. I think we could carve one off of you I have a resentment towards you. I just realized. Yeah. Yeah, sir What is it about you think this is not a lie? I swear to god I swear to god on my life Okay, I'm believe you know, it's real right. I don't know but yeah, I'm listening. What do you mean? Yeah, okay, okay, whatever. Yeah, I believe three times. Okay on hinge when I was on it And two times on raya. Mm-hmm. I matched with the girl And in the direct message, they said yo, I don't want to hurt your feelings But um, I'm not really I didn't match with you because I wanted to hook I want to hook up with theo. Can you set me up? Damn You didn't set me up How hard would that have been I made that birthday video for you Oh Never looked at it that way, you know your voice out here. Yeah looking for love Oh, shit my bad. Okay, and I've always wanted to ask you this. Do you feel asian? Like does it feel asian when you wake up? No, no, no, that's a funny thing. That's a good question, dude That's ridiculous. Is it really? Yeah, because I wake up. I don't even think about it really Yeah, this is what the first every time I wake up. What time is it and then I go That's what I think where's my phone is the second thing Yeah, and then the third thing is I got a pee. Yeah me too Then the fourth thing is I should get some coffee or something then the fifth thing is am I asian? No, no, you don't think about even when you look in the mirror You don't go. Oh, I'm asian the asian stuff and the way I look is only why people made me aware of that Oh, wow people like you really yeah, because when I was a kid and kids used to come when they do the eye thing They would just stretch their eyes like this and go ching chong in and all that kind of stuff You should do that to me too because I have real lean eyes I need to do it to you. Yeah, I guess it kind of hurt my it just made me feel like oh, maybe I'll look a little strange No, but that's not a strange look. I mean look an asian when you're Polish and Nicaraguan It is a wild idea But when you were in Shanghai did anyone go are you have Chinese? I think some people looked at me like maybe I knew something. Yeah, you do look like you know something And we got to get to you know how people still feel some type of way about bobby Lee somebody said unpopular opinion Bobby Lee like ken jong has hurt asians more than he's actually helped by portraying us as caricatures Instead of actual human beings somebody replies back get over it their comedians did they ruin your life grow a thick skin? And someone said oh is this tea a want a story just a joke too a lot of these so-called comedians are high-key scumbags Low lives and degenerates bobby just isn't someone you want representing your community And you know and these are all types of asians It's not like the Koreans are all on his side or all against him either It's like it it's split just down the middle Among asians no bobby has all different types of fans for sure um This is interesting though because like we said earlier It just kind of depends on what you're looking at. Do you just see him as a pure comedian that's able to he's a master of laughter You know, he looks funny plus. He's got incredible timing and funny jokes. That's like An all-star combination. Well, david at what point do you separate? Okay? I think he's a good comedian. He makes me laugh versus. He is a positive representation of an asian male masculinity Coming up in the masculinity ladder. I think the tough thing is that those things are separate You would want people to represent both. I think ideally every guy in their mind is like, okay, rustle peters masculine cool He represented asian. Well is ronnie chang good representation. You know, there's a there's a few others Are you saying those are seem very clear cut? Yeah, those seem clearly positive and I think bobby is debatable But again, there's the comedy side and then there's the asian representation side And I think that if you're looking for both, maybe he's not the best balance of both Yeah, I would say actually him and thio more fit into that like i'm about the laughter He's straight common even thio vaude. I mean he talks about doing drugs and he's very ignorant He plays up his ignorance and it's like they're they're like The no holds bar comedians. Yeah. Yeah, where I feel like they just adjust to where like these invisible electric fences are Of like, oh, that's kind of like a little hot. I can't get like society determines those. Yeah I I will say this adding on to like comedians telling inappropriate stories on podcasts or like Somewhat illegal stories or even fake stories, right? Yeah, it is tough. You don't know what is real and fake anymore So sometimes it sounds like they're admitting to something that is actually wrong that they did Potentially highly illegal, right? Yeah, or yeah, whatever highly illegal or immoral or whatever immoral whatever it is um, and then They just say they're just joking So then you're like, is it real or not and it's so hard to judge So I do think that we have to acknowledge that that is a line that is blurred now If they're on stage talking about something generally you think okay, it could be fake But if they're on a podcast then you're kind of like, I don't know like I expect some stuff to be real here Yeah, I think one thing that I would want all Asians to understand about comedy is comedy is sort of like There's like this invisible guitar in the room and these strings based on The tension in the room or the characters or the archetypes that are present in the room The strings are like arranged differently like sometimes that's like a guitar or like a harp and it's just like Some comedians they're just trying to play those strings by any means necessary Like you said using real fake Moral immoral stories. It's just about the laughter right that is the last the music of laughter Somebody said I could never take bobby lee seriously He'd go on a tangent about traumatic stuff Then he'd joke out of it and then you don't know if you're supposed to have empathy or laugh at him or with him Yeah, this is that's what makes him such a unique comedian though, right? Yeah, I mean I think overall if bobby lee is talking just don't take anything he says seriously I think that's that's how you would go about it Somebody said oh my gosh, this made me laugh so loud. He's Korean clearly look at his eyes Someone said he totally looks Korean. I never would have thought he was Chinese. Andrew. You actually have the same eyes as bobby lee So I mean Oddly enough, I've been compared to bobby lee throughout my time on youtube in the comment section. Yes, I would say they're very Look, look, they're very cartoon comedic eyes But then somebody said to the untrained eye you all look Chinese to me That is a line from Dave Chappelle and this sort of got into the thing of like have all Asians been called Chinese at some point Like we got a Ilocano Filipino friend and he still got called Chinese growing up Everybody who's Asian got called Chinese. It's so weird I mean you almost have to be like super trained to tell the differences for a non-Asian I think Asians within themselves More no, but it's almost like If you ask somebody who doesn't really know anything about trucks to tell the difference between a four at f1 50 and a Toyota Tacoma They cannot. No, it's the same truck. Yeah, somebody said this post is going to trigger a lot of softies Especially since this is provided with no context of there being a comedy bit and then good friends Uh, what do you think about people getting it confused? Is it just sophistication and consuming this thing or people are pulling out podcast? Yeah, because because a podcast clip can be taken out of context and the podcast is a comedy podcast And there's probably a lot of untrue and goofy stuff said Um, so yeah, I would not take anything that bobby Lee is in for fact anything that Theo Vaughn is in It is not fact. It is comedy. Um, and I would just assume that you know What do you think about some people saying that bobby Lee should have been canceled by now because he had diss vietnamese people a long time ago and Filipinos but in a joking way, but he was calling them jungle Asians and things like that But then he is he's also been on us on podcast saying that he believes that Koreans are the most racist Asians Yeah, so I don't know. I mean, uh No, those are kind of just those are kind of just like those are kind of stereotypes. Yeah, those are just basic stereotypes Anyway, Andrew, why do you think this went so viral? Like I said, Andrew Russell Peters with you're gonna get a hurt real bad Ali Wong Asian men's bodies are like slick dolphins and give them a chance because of that Ronnie Chang, I hope you get rich. Uh, maybe joe coy out a few moments here and there, especially in the Filipino community I remember the joe coy did one about driving that went really viral saying Oh, how come they say Asians can't drive even though they make the best cars How come they're only select clips like this one that goes super viral even amongst people who do not watch comedy I think it's because there's not that many Asians who are deep in the comedy podcast sphere Like very few very few are actually a handful of very very good Asian comedians nowadays But they're not on the podcast circuit like bobby is so bobby is the only one really speaking up about Asian Topics or jokes. You said in the specific comedy podcast. Yeah, so he's kind of by default the comedic Representation on those popular podcasts, right? Like he's been on Joe Rogan. You know what I mean? So Like he's on that level. You know what I mean? No, like the a tier Yeah, so he kind of represents Asians even though that's why I think some people are a little bit just like Why is bobby the only person in this podcast? Is this sort of like Constance Wu being the only representation in hollywood at like a I'm not happy with this. Yeah. So some people are unhappy, you know I guess that's I guess it just shows that there needs to be more Asians in that tier or you know, I don't know Yeah, because that their same lack of care of like everybody's sensitivities or the most sensitive people also probably allowed them to attack To achieve that level too. And like we said, everybody has a different threshold I'm kind of like of multiple minds about it But I think as we get this whole world of asian-american representation more developed There's more space for it because at the end of the day very very talented comedian I see bobby as a comedian only and I don't take anything he says even if he's dissing Chinese people Korean people southeast asian filipinos of vietnamese Just anything that comes out of bobby's mouth. Just take it as comedy now. It's a lot easier to operate that way He is not your number one asian male masculine Right, no no pan asian bringing all the tribes together. He's not the uniter. He's not the martin luther king He's not this he's not like he's not even the ronnie chang, you know, like he's just not gonna be that so it's all good So that's his role. He's kind of the jester. That's fine. Yeah Like we said guys, let us know what you think in the comments section below I think there's valid points on all sides. Keep it civil Encourage debate until next time with the hot pop boys. We out. Peace