 Well, hello finally two months two months later We're finally getting on to this it's been as my wife said this morning. Thank God junior. He's over so Where are we I'm looking over The most recent list of our goals, but I'm not sure I have those Does somebody does someone have those I put a link to the last notes. I'm referring to in The chat it was emailed after our meeting Or before our one of our meetings Okay, I Don't have I couldn't find any other notes Well build it a wonderful summation. Maybe I should read this That's what I think that is Okay, let me just I think it'd be good just to read this out and get this Tuesday night's our subboard Response to Justine's progress board was quite positive I think the board is really interested in exploring and defining its vision for going forward I also believe there continues to be an interest in pursuing the goals discussed at a board retreat back in September Justine said the goals committee would be reporting back in January And Jamie said he would recommend it for January our set agenda three things to think about timeliness process time and Packaging I think the committee should continue to prioritize developing a draft vision statement However, these things take time to develop discuss work through vision is a mindset and a focused view of what we are all about Timeliness isn't crucial here Right and having a broad and deep understanding and buy-in by each board member is critical It would be quite an accomplishment if we could do this by the end of the school year One way to keep it moving is to develop drafts and prioritize time and future agendas Meanwhile, we have other possible goals that are more time sensitive a goal to strengthen school parent connections and Communications that Justine mentioned is worth considering now Your idea of using daily curriculum notebooks is an excellent suggestion for staff consideration The key is to see if this is a board priority and tasking Jamie Lindy about how to do this and what board support is needed As you know the WRVSU board recently voted to establish S. Why do you? academic achievement goals for to 2022 to 2025 Doesn't make sense for the R. Said board to consider this like the anti-racism policy adoption and make it a top priority FY 23 budgeting is well underway Establishing funding goals needs to be considered now to impact the FY 22 23 budget Both Lindy and Jamie spoke about initiatives to spread the word about all the great things going on in our school and attract more students We discussed this at the retreat if the board feels this is important I should say so and see how we can help Jamie mentioned his growing concern about the state of our building infrastructure to meet educational needs of students I believe this was an emphasis you made at our retreat worth discussing whether to make it a board priority Finally the board support and interest in our new governance principles and operating protocols We're heartening They are guiding beliefs and a game plan to ensure that we as a board function effectively Effectively one way to do this as Justine said is to make it an ongoing discussion topic Packaging we don't have time to do this at one time or in one package We don't have to do this at one time or one package we can discuss can adopt these over time Important thing is to get the board to focus What are the essential actions policies investments we need to do is support as a board achieve Optum student achievement and student wellness cost effectively Goal setting helps us figure this out and sets actions policy investments accomplished We're determining what our priorities are Good Ethan. Yes, would you share a link to that in the chat? I don't know what you were reading from ah It's an email oh for it on I Don't know how to do the links in chat some stuff. So I will Go to the top well, it's obviously not if it's in an email you can't link it, but yeah Web bar of anything Find this bill again Bill let me just say to so I have Recently been my mother-in-law just died like two weeks ago and so I've been sort of out of mind of You know showing up at board meetings and Doing what's there, but in terms of being on top of things and I just want to say you you do such a good job of this and you're So engaged in what's going on and I apologize for not responding more often but it's sometimes you just have to do the basics and I appreciate you keeping to detail I'm going to Forward this to the R said board in general and It's bills response. Is that feel okay bill to respond this to all the R said board That goes with that Ethan if you are yeah, good. Thank you It's it's basically a follow-up information. It's not any decision-making or asking for any decisions Here we go there that's better. Okay Um So as I say for me, this is a really important meeting to sort of get back on to this and Figure out where we are. I do think I came up with something that I liked The other when we were talking budget at our last meeting a month ago the idea of Creative I think it was creative A rigorous education With what we have If you click on the link in the chat, you can Know it's from that meeting our last meeting And where is that a little at the bottom right of your screen. There's a little blue like chat icon Next to the people I know I always see what I always do is It's not going there and there was an error opening this file There's an error opening this file Sorry, I got kicked out Wow, yeah, it keeps telling me there's an error opening this file. So you do it by Email I'm trying to find it Is what I like to do is I look I have everything I'm reading on my Regular computer and then this is my communications commuter. There you go You Boy, it shows like a lifetime ago. It's just incredible Where um What's next then and that's a good question I think we you know our decisions that we made at the meeting were good and I reported them back to the board and As you we had a synopsis in that email it indicated that the board was in support of what we were doing I kind of feel it I'm sort of in this position where we either make these decisions or we find a better way to bring our ideas back to the board and call for more Response because I felt like I was looking for like feedback and what to kind of like how to how to kind of Morph these into solid goals that we are going to just present for action It feels a little bit like we're just a small group deciding these big goals without a lot of input from the other board members I and yet I also I'm and then bill I gather from your email that you're thinking Better to keep the discussion going On even a specific goal rather than feel like we have to present an entire slate Soon that this is an ongoing process and that maybe set our things out So that's that's different than what just teens just in thinking Well, I just didn't want to it Part of it is is timeliness Some things are more pressing than others and the other thing is that I think any Organized body, it's it's much easier to edit and to So a draft then to kind of create something whole Completely and so I don't think it's a bad idea for us to try to draft something up for the consideration of the board That's why we have subcommittees that that and I think we could and it'd be nice if we could show them something for the board's consideration Tonight we've got two Agenda items that are meeting tonight that have to do with I think We've discussed his potential goals. One is on does going to talk about academic performance The winter Academic testing results of our two wonderful schools and one of the goals we had was to to make sure that our proposed goals was to To be on record of the importance of having strong affirmative positive academic results of the children that we loved and were responsible for their education for so that's something that that we could share with the board tonight And It's not not necessarily that we're going to vote on everything tonight, but that's one thing the second thing is the budget and I think there's a hopes of the administration that there's a consensus for the board to vote our 2023 school budgets and So that's one responsibility So after something about goals and everything One thing is to pass it to make sure that it meets what we think is academically and financially responsible Document and the other thing is to be committed to that we're gonna have to go out and sell this thing and Ethan You talked about that at our last meeting and you talked about letters to the editor Because at least on the stock bridge side There's gonna be we're projecting an increase for those taxpayers paying by their property tax values By the way, did you see that email? Was it from the VSBA? I'm not sure but it basically talked to that issue and the idea that What we're getting from the state Is going to modify that because we're gonna be getting more money somehow. I you know, this is Byzantine bars. I'm concerned Yes, I saw some reference to that from a letter from the the state financial school education, whatever it is tax Director and and she talked about they're gonna be Lowering the education base rate. That's gonna somehow help us and I had a question in my email To Jamie of whether or not The budget that before us tonight Reflects that or not and that would make a big difference if it doesn't then the increased projected increase for At least stock bridge voters will be less than What we've seen to date But that's timely to to decide and then and and agree that we're gonna go out and fight for for what we believe in Justine Because I feel like in our last meeting we decided we were gonna start with the concept of a vision and mission statement Yes, and then move on beyond that after we integrate what input We may get from the board on these visions and missions and then synthesize that into a set of goals that were attainable Moving forward and that would be our ongoing process Okay I feel like what we might be getting ahead of ourselves and kind of focusing on what the task at hand is for the board anyway In our goals, which is kind of like a long Like a longer-sighted Project and just be like oh, we're working on budget now. We should put that in the goals You know, I'm not sure that's really where we were going with our last meeting And I'm not sure that's where I think we should be going with this committee necessarily because generally we're going to worry about the budget anyway About that tonight too. Yeah, and I think that where we were was more of a philosophy situation and kind of like a linear goal setting plan There was something that right now that I'm planning to remember in what the last meeting there was something about The idea of a definition of what a vision and what a mission Goal is and I think getting back to that just so we Just emailed we talked about we kind of outlined that a little bit The vision communicates a passion our vision. We oh, yeah rigorous creative education rigorous creative education Yep under mission was integration of Curriculum and transparency a culture of The concept of I don't know is okay a comfortable space for uncomfortable learning That that was under that was under mission. Yeah, I'm looking at that We I brought that back to the board and they were like good that sounds good and there wasn't a lot of feedback So I you know, I feel like we should keep working from where we left off there instead of kind of jump ahead of ourselves into the the goals Well, here's the one thing also I Believe and that is that not everyone not everyone is a mission and vision Person You know what I mean, like some people on the board are like I wanted nothing I want a bolt and that's all I really care about So now that we shouldn't do this but that just that sort of responding to the board's response to Us bringing this forward. I Think this is great stuff. I think it's it's it's what and and really it's not about in some ways We hope the whole board agrees with it It's really what it's useful both for us and also for us to assess how our administration is doing And like that we can look at Lindy's plan for the year and her budget for the year as Jamie says is a Policy statement and we can say, okay, is this rigorous creative education? And then is it as their integration and is their transparency? Yeah, I is I don't know okay So that so that that's why it seems to me That's the test of each thing in here and then comfortable space for uncomfortable learning I like it because it's it's it Not only talks about The actual space and the attitude in the space, but I think that's actually a comfortable space is also part of building up keep Eventually when you have a goal, you know, because you can't have a comfortable space that there's pipes bursting over your head like Yeah, so so if we're here vision I mean, I'm happy with this that this is what we spend, you know, the next half hour on Yeah, these is this enough for a vision and mission I mean, I would say the vision. Yes rigorous creative education is a great one for a vision Yeah, of course somebody would say rigorous creative education But there's nothing about budget in there, but I don't know if that's necessary I'm just saying I think it's great mission. I feel like we're not there yet. We've got like four things here But how do we make it into a mission statement? Right? I Think somebody looking at it isn't going to know what do you mean integration? What do you mean transparency? Anybody want to take a stab at it That mission statement I don't know that I can use my brain enough on the spot right now to do that But I'm interested in taking a stab at it, but maybe not No, that's fine We can maybe we can you know pull it apart a little bit. I mean, well, how do we define integration? The last meeting well how we defined it was instead of going outside to reach find something and add it to the budget You use skills sets that we already have and Overlap I think overlap integration was really about overlapping Arts and music is that right right integrating the the arts and humanities into academic learning Yeah, I'm sorry, I mean I'm very I'm very tapped out mentally Give your best just that you're here and just that you've got us on track It's really all you needed to do today You got us back from I had no idea when I started this meeting. I have absolutely no idea where we were We're even talking about so I now do and I credit you for that. Thank you and Bill's lovely email So I'm you know, that was your job today. That's all you need to do But I want to be part of it. I mean I just don't No, no integration integration. I mean I would say integration is Is using what you have to deepen the educational experience Something about like the resources that are available, you know using available resources What yeah, I said existing resources To the extent of their creative potential or something I like that Because there's lots of it's not just like oh an art teacher can teach art or whatever It's like even a math teacher can teach art. I remember, you know, just one teaching tessellations We're doing that we've made Like so, I mean, it's not just oh, let's plug in the art teacher into our class. It's just it's kind of an opening Conceptually open opening your mind to integrating the Anyway, sorry, can I know can I say that phrase again to see if I got it right using existing resources to the To develop the extent of creative potential is that right through a develop in there that wasn't there To the extent of their creative potential there Of course, who's there then The the creative potential the teachers the staff the topic You know, it's not just that it's not just people either it's like Matt can we use Matt like where can how far can we reach with with each? All right, I mean I'd buy this totally Bill you got your sense. Yeah, it's um You're really on to something and every word counts Because these things need to be shorter than super longer. I remember spending this just months on a mission statement that Finally was like 50 words or less. So oh, yeah don't be embarrassed or or a concern that it doesn't automatically comes to your mind and you've come up with the mission statement or vision and It takes work and we already I know I think stock bridge and Rochester have either a mission or a vision or both and that's another Place to check and see whether Some of those ideas that are the existing mission Should be incorporated in a new revised A vision or a mission statement for our a district so Yeah, that's And it to me it's going to be something that Will take some iterations. I mean it won't be you know, yes and no boom People will edit people will think about something else will expand it will whatever the case is Just the process of doing that is powerful because we're talking about the most important thing we've got is Why are we here? So I don't think the goal needs to be tonight to necessarily We can I think we're moving in both directions on vision and mission and we can share that with the board tonight And justine I didn't mean to offend you on on my interest in goals But I was under my definition of goals is they reflect that mission In vision, but we can establish goals even though we haven't because goals are a measurable and meaningful and attainable But they're necessary to To move forward sometimes and grab the opportunities that are in front of us And we can do some of that without interfering with the bigger global picture of the vision Statement and a mission statement. They don't have to Wait, that's what I'm saying and if you decide that it's Better did not do goals until we have that I'm comfortable with with that as well I'm just comfortable also was saying we've got some things important things going on and One of them your idea about school parent connections strengthening school parent connections That can be a goal Regardless of what our vision is and our mission um and I think Robert was talking about that one of our board meetings is that the pto are just Isn't alive in rochester. We wish we had one was more like stock bridge, but Getting us to focus and helping the administration focus on how do we strengthen that relationship? We can start doing that now For the rest of the spring going forward, I think justine your idea on that is is really powerful um And it's something that if we focus on I think we can make some positive steps on on that And justine another goal that I think is worthwhile is that when we passed The governance and the board protocols. I remember you said These are important, but we need to continue to focus on these in the months going ahead Do you remember when you said that? Yep, absolutely and and so A goal just says recognize it. We're going to spend some time doing that and that would be Right. Probably not on the agenda moved up so Maybe our vision statement is one of the goals Yes, uh, is is the established one so that's not under the gun. I don't think A vision statement. They're so important that you just can't do it. Um beat the clock Right. So I think the takeaway from our last meeting if we're thinking about it through this lens is that we were creating a vision and a mission statement We were interested in uh, integrated integration You know tapping into the creative potential of the available resources that we already have to um Kind of extend our ability to offer Arts and humanities We did talk about the communication between parents That kind of strengthening that communication with the community and parents um Those were three things that we talked about a lot and the and the you know, the Financial piece has been coming up ever since our retreat. So that's obviously a heavy hitter Well, this is our first set of goals I mean, this is why I like this as a vision statement because using existing resources to the extent of their creative potential Is a budget statement You know, it's it's it's absolutely a budget statement. It's saying we you know It's going to be you've got to prove to us That you really need this extra budget item because I need to see that you haven't You know dredged up everything you've got from what you have Um, so you know, I think that's why these are I mean, I I hear you that you know, we have specific goals that we need now and we probably to talk about them, but The best vision statement Is going to define the goal. Yeah. Yeah, all of the goals. It's going to say this is how we look at building's educational procedure and goals um administration because we have the right vision That's what we talked about last time. Yeah now is why we were throwing all of these things around the resort of vague But you know also specific I I I I I really support it myself. I think um uh so, um I mean, I I don't know I I that's why I I I feel like I know what the mission statement is. I've seen it and it's pretty Boilerplate education school education stuff We will educate every child to the best of their ability and you know, we will do that and it's like No, this is different This is this is this is different what we're coming up with here Um, um, and that's why I'd like to stay this part now when we say so if I may If let's just go through these four things that are in our vision statement right now We have integration transparency. I don't know is okay In comfortable space for uncomfortable learning What do we mean by transparency? What I think is meant by transparency involves Uh an open line of communication with parents and community as to what they're What the money is going toward what the children are learning and experiencing and kind of an open Open on both ends where it's It's a comfortable space for uncomfortable learning for them as well I'm gonna I'm gonna push you to be broader in this In the sense that that's a that's a specific goal that could come out. Yeah Okay, why do we want transparency across the board means Everybody sees what everybody's doing Maybe that's it Everybody's every or everybody's on everybody sees and everybody's on board with what everybody's doing Maybe there's an effort to to open up the doors of you know, like there's a clear effort made to Uh To work toward a higher level of transparency Or so, you know, like because you could be yeah, yeah transparent or whatever, but if we're all kind of thinking What is how are we showing this to the outside? Are we is there a way we could better show this to everyone? Is there a way this can be more open More well, I'm just if if if we have as part of our vision I mean listen to this just to put these two together just so this is because this is sort of how a vision So our vision statement is using existing resources to the extent of their creative potential And everyone sees what everyone is up to and and buys into what everyone is up to Up to is a terrible phrase, but that's what I got right now The um or buys into or sees and buys into Ethan this is where it gets difficult to be A member of a board Um, we're representing a community We're also representing the parents and the kids and and we've got to be careful that If our goal is 100 consensus on everything buy in So we just um yep. Yep. No, I hear you transparency To me means people have a confidence They do not see anything or hear everything um They don't necessarily have to do their homework or there's a confidence level and one of the ways to have a confidence is that They don't have a sense that the organization is hiding things Which avoiding things. I mean this is exactly what we were dealing with so now the end result has to be though Quality education and the kids are learning and they're learning As well and it's hopefully better than the competition. So we can be transparent But underlying that what you hope people believe in not only is that we're not doing smoke and mirrors, but the outcome Is in the interest of of everybody and um, I well, I think your word of confidence Can you Ethan could I stop you for a moment and ask you to repeat what you said right before bill started talking um Everyone everyone sees everyone sees what everyone's up to Uh, nope. It was just before you started talking and you were you were talking back about the creative potential Our vision is a rigorous education It's uh using existing resources to the extent of their creative potential And everyone sees what everyone is up to. Okay. Thank you Um and but I I really like where bill's going the idea Because we're experiencing this right now We went through a period of of the beginning of my tenure where there was no confidence in the board Because they felt we were doing all kinds of things behind their back, which we weren't Um, but they did they had no confidence in us. That was what was clear And so I think that word is so so everyone's seeing what everyone is up to is And and the buy into is is probably not Because there's a level of confidence and trust You know, it's that you have confidence in and you trust and are those the same thing. I don't think they quite are it's like you Why nobody's coming to our meetings right now it because they were trust. We're doing the right thing I really believe that's the case They don't want to think about us They don't want to think about the board. They don't want to think about the board They might want to think about their kid going to school and whether they need a covid test or not But they don't want to think about the work because they trust that we're doing the work And so transparency is about maintaining that confidence You know maintaining the confidence of I mean, I want to say your clients, but that's a business term But it's it's maintaining the confidence of all parties that we are going about this business in a Maintaining I'm just going to get that much down maintaining Maintaining the confidence I put a little drafty thing in the chat for maintain the confidence of all parties I mean, there is something to be said of all parties involved Yeah, because it works. That's that's a two-way street You know, it's a two-way street. It's that we got confidence Everybody's confident that the other party's there Um, what did you I didn't see I'll have to go and see if I can get it this time Oh, here we go rigorous comfortable space using existing resources to the extent of their creative potential platformer and transparency by maintaining the confidence and trust of the community I like the word maintaining but um, I think we can you know work under the rigorous creative education and then have our description of what that means um And yeah, because number two is really it's budget. It's it's Pedagogy It's absolutely pedagogy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's and it's it's also in cute include encouraging them to How can we teach more creatively using what we have? Oh, we got somebody who's got specialty in horses well, you know In transparency is that trust thing, but it's also Uh a community connection with the parents That you were, you know, we were talking about the last time It's not just, you know sharing curriculum. It's also sharing what you know What our decisions are based upon, you know, it's much broader than just Putting a poster outside the door of the classroom When you say platform What do you mean by platform? That's the only part of your sentence So, you know, our school board is rooted in transparency I guess i'm thinking about communication platform where teachers are communicating with parents School board is, you know, jamie really does provide this type of platform He provides a platform where he communicates regularly both through video and through Letter letters to the greater community through home to parents and on the internet So that I mean that's an example of a platform and then but also parent teachers may Create their own version of a platform that provides transparency from their work to the community the school board Going beyond well, let me let me try this in that One that we add the word create, but maybe that's true. That's goal-related Provide a Yeah, right a profit. What about this idea of instead of trust of community? It's trust the confidence and trust of all parties Because that's for mine and it's just the idea that it's a two-way street Yeah, and then it's between the board and the administration It's between the board and The community it's between the administration and the communities between the teachers Maybe we say the the administration the Faculty and the community Well, again, if we're trying to keep this pithy and short like I think all parties is a little bit Maybe a little too vague and also Well, I don't know it just sounds kind of legal And you know those lawyers man, they're all trying to get around things I guess it's that I I feel like that and that's you know, I can go either way and I think it should be broader than just community Um, it's for me. It's a plat it's defining a platform So if somebody reads this and says and maybe it's if you say providing a platform But it's something platform. It's a Uh, communication platform a communication or administrative platform Because it's bigger than just communication. This is also this also has to do with a personal one-to-one relationship, right communicative communicative Uh I need a new pad. Hold on a second Oh So right now we're at a platform Transparency Yeah, maybe yeah, I think it is about you know, it's about communication communicating. It's about Yeah, I can't think of Okay, I mean, I think you know, we don't we don't have to solve this today Yeah, um A platform communicative platform We're doing transparency to maintain the confidence Of all and the possibilities that are of all parties Party of the first part of the Of the community of the community and administration Staff and Students Staff and students. I think that covers everybody I like listing it just because it yeah, I think the community like to you I think the community means the people not in the school and community means everybody the school the kids the teachers the The administration and the parents and the taxpayers Yeah, you could do that with a nice little colon The community colon administration students Right People all right. Well, I think Um, by the way, how long are we going today? I I should go anytime I can I this is a push I was pushing my luck even doing this. No, no, um, uh, let's um I mean, I think we've moved forward Um, uh bill is there something more in the next let's say five minutes That you think we should bring to the board tonight about specific goals Because I think we've moved forward on our vision statement Yeah, and they kind of incorporates what our possible goals were listed last time communicating curriculum to the parents And that that was basically the only real goal we brought up the last time. So maybe we moved forward with You know something else because the could do first that Could you before we get off or after we get off could you type up what you wrote there? on the Yeah, just put it in an email to us so that we can have Do you and bill you haven't said anything in a while. How do you feeling about What we did today? Well, um, I don't want to go against Uh, justine. I got that that Goals need to wait and I don't want to violate her feelings on that and No, I agree with you. I came back against that where I where I understood what you meant with the ongoing and You're not going against me. It's fine um, that said, I think um, the two Possible goals that we could um because we've discussed them. I think there's um Board support form both ideas came coming from justine one was strengthening school parent communication And to see I know lindy and and and Is doing things and the fact of everything else can we help on that? Because it's very important if we get active parents support um, whether it's the the school budget coming up vote or anything else, but that school parent Communication, I think that's an important goal if we can strengthen that and then the other one is Board governance keep a focus on how we're how we're doing and other things that we can do better as a board um, and I think that's a that's that's Well worth having on our agenda and considering those two and those are two so um, and uh So, uh, so tonight if when they comes up we should present Sort of a latest version of what we have for a vision statement. Oh, well our vision statement our mission Statement where we are there and then say would we like to talk about these two goals? tonight Yeah Okay All right Well, I think that's um I think that's a good hours to work in here. Um, probably what we should do is the old task of Not putting it off too long to meet again and that we scheduled the next meeting What's when are you done justine? March so first week of march So if well, how about we um meet again? Uh before the next meeting the next board meeting. Yeah, that's fine So the fourth at noon Is that march fourth your march fourth? How's that? Is that good Right now it is It's early on early on Well, I think that'll help us because you know, um, I'm always better if I if I if it's on my calendar Sure march fourth is a Friday. Yeah Yeah Wait, then when what's the day of our? It would be the 8th, right? Or no the first Tuesday. Yeah, the march is the first of march is a Tuesday. Correct. So we have a So we would have the meeting that night, but you will will you be done by then? Yeah, yeah, I'll be done. I'm done that week before that Okay, how about then how about march first? Yep at noon Yeah, let's do that March first at noon. I feel like We can pat ourselves in the back and come forward and bring to the board that we have two specific goals that are priorities for us to come to terms with tonight Um, so that we have them for what we're doing right now with budget and goals Sorry, I guess that's oh one question then Bill I thought when you brought up two goals before parent-teacher communication I thought it was the academic goals not the board governance um, well, I had I think I had originally six so I was But I do think um The academics if to Have the board aware that we've got An sui academic achievement goals and to be able to focus on that. We're going to be doing that tonight with Anna but I would If it's not tonight at some point, I'd love to have our board say yeah Those are our goals too as well as su and I'll leave it to you Ethan and how you want to do that But nothing's more important in my mind is making sure the kids are learning better succeeding better So they can reach their fullest potential and if To me, that's that'd be nice if our board would Back the board on the pursuit Well, and also make sure we understand them um You've got my email Ethan and you got Jamie's response and his response because I had all these questions and he said Bill you're basically, you know Kindly stated somewhat confused on some of the stuff and I was because it is confusing very confusing to me And um, if we're gonna Be effective we have to understand. Yep. Um, and I was just showing my hand. I'm in the back of the classroom kind of Uh, no, I I totally support well learner. I think it's very easy to um You know, especially when things seem like they're going smoothly with the board to feel like it's sort of rubber stamp time And it is very important that we actually understand what we're doing As a the lawyer would agree with that, right? All right, I think that's I think we've done enough tonight they're today There seems to be no public on here unless ray you have a comment about how brilliant we are I know it was a great meeting. Yeah. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I mean it is fun to talk about this high level stuff I much prefer it to minutia numbers I gotta tell you More my bailey wick as they say, yeah, very good. We will see you tonight then. Thank you all Yep. See you