 Hello, everyone. This is Piero San Giorgio. I'm very happy today to have as a guest Marcus Follin. Is that good pronunciation? Yes, it is. Also known as the golden one, big channel on YouTube and on internet, and I'm very pleased today to host you, Marcus, for your excellent book that came out Don't Lass, which has a great subtitle, which is a Handbook for the Quest for Enlightenment and Glory. I love that. I actually bought You were kind enough to send me one and I was so much like that I bought another one for my son, for my two sons now, and I also Got, which I think is great. I was wearing it today because it was cold this morning You're amazing hoodie with Perseus I challenged my kids. I said, you know who that that is. Of course, it's Perseus with Amidusa So that was good and it's high quality, well done, and there's a lot of other nice Merchandise that you have on your website, which I put the link below, but let's talk about your book Why a book? What led you to write this excellent book? Yeah, so first and foremost, thank you for the kind words and nice to see the the Perseus and Medusa and glad that your sons are Could could identify it. It's a it's a glorious myth indeed So basically I I of course I live in Sweden and for a long time I've been averse to the Swedish regime then of course I understood that it's not only in Sweden. It's so all of the West all of Europe basically that That many young men are basically being lied to in so many different ways Of course, I've talked a lot about these issues in On my YouTube channel videos But I wanted to have one place where I had all of my Teachings so to speak all of my thoughts all of my advice in one place and that was sort of a way for me to Help a lot of people because when I see many things happening To take an example if I see a young man being completely out of shape because he is Yeah, he doesn't take care of himself and I see he's unhappy. He is He has a low self-confidence. He Yeah, it doesn't doesn't like himself So I thought to myself, how can I how can I help? Many of these men many of these young guys Then I thought to myself, okay, I'm gonna write a book and This is sort of the book I would wish I had read when I was 15 or something Because many of these things no one is saying them Unless of course you look you all throughout the internet But I wanted to have one physical copy where everyone could just get the the basics on On how to survive and thrive in the modern world. So everything from training to Relationships to yeah, I even quote your book I talk about your book about survivalism all of these different things that you know No one in in school is going to tell you about survivalism at least not in Sweden. They're not gonna tell you about the Negative effects of poor diet or anything like that. It's just other things you learn so I thought yeah, I'm gonna write it and have this is my my Distribution to to restoring order to the West Yes, I must say that it's You know You I'm much older than you and 49 and I was when I read the book I was excited to read of course and I was not expecting much. I was I was saying, okay So, you know, you're a successful youtuber. You have Very much success in how you manage your own body, which is already something More successful than the world I do but certainly certainly it was inciting. So I didn't know what to expect and as I started to read I saw that Every and first of all, let me say that it's not hard to read because a lot of young people who may watch this They they are scared of reading books because in school We're not trained anymore to read the big books and read fast It's fast to read because every topic is in one sort of small chapter or big paragraph and and everyone teaches And it encompasses everything that a young young man could need in life from how you train what you should eat how you should behave yourself even how you should dress and look and how to You know Think in a way and how you structure your your thoughts, of course, you give some of your opinions as well But I thought that it is very complete and I was surprised that there was there is so much information in What is relatively a short and quick to read book? Which is a which is really great because as we know young people, they're not trained to read anymore Maybe they go through school. They write one or two books When as my in my time you had to read maybe 500 and in my parents time you had to read 5,000 I'm exaggerating maybe maybe maybe a thousand books throughout your school years and now this is this is complete and Would you say that today young people are are lost they're not finding anyone no fathers No government telling them the wholeness of life which goes from body to mind Yeah, yeah, definitely. So that was on the Reasons as well that I am of course angry at many of the things see and angry at I'm a bit sad myself as well that I didn't have anyone telling me when I was 15 But then again many things so I'm 31 and now by the way But a lot of these things they weren't public knowledge 15 years ago such a thing as porn Consumption no one really knew it was that bad 15 years ago So no one told me when I was 17 that you know, you shouldn't watch this because it's bad No one told me that Same thing when it comes to a lot of dietary advice, you know, you had during the 80s this anti-fat Propaganda campaign mostly from the sugar industry and of course, I'm born in 89 So I have grown up during the 90s also with You know, I had a quite good diet growing up But in retrospect what I will do different with my children is that they will get a lot more meat a lot more animal fats etc So I'm sort of angry at many of the the lies I've grown up with or perhaps not lies But to the lack of information Same thing if we're talking about the relationship between men and women, of course in in feminist Sweden, you have a completely different Attitude from school and from culture, which you know, if many young men they hear that you should be in a certain way And then women react very poorly to it because they want something completely different But that's something completely different. It's something older men Need to tell these younger men because otherwise otherwise they might go out and you have a completely different View of women that won't lead anywhere productive so and also, of course if we look young Roll models from culture from Hollywood, etc. It's you know degenerate rappers or Whatever it might be and they don't really They aren't really good role models at all. So I do I've tried to be at least somewhat It might sound a bit arrogant to say it, but I've tried at least and If I could give some direction in in some regards It's what I've tried to do both of course on YouTube and other social media But but also in the book. So that's also want to get, you know, a handbook that is to the point because a lot of other many other authors they want they want to Elaborate on a new way of thinking and not much as what to do And this is of course something you do well in your book as well that you you give actual advice you give actual Hands on advice that you can incorporate. So that's also something I tried to do with don't less that okay I read this and I can directly incorporate it into my life. So it's not only a new Ideology or a new philosophy for whatever in fact when I when I also when I read the book I found that Contrary to what our enemies might might expect or might say about you and the same as me Is that they try to depict you and me or people like us as extremists? But when I read the book and when I read the advice because the book is much more powerful Long term than a video on YouTube because on the on the book You can think a long time before you write a sentence and you can choose the words whereas in YouTube sometimes you say things Either with humor or a bombastic way to make an impression and and that's all fine But in the book you have to be more careful writing things that can be used against you perhaps So so you have to be careful and I thought and I thought that in your book whether it's about You know ethnicities race Religion nationalism things like that for example They are extremely Balanced I think they are very wise. They're not provocative. It's a very and I I found that they are I even took notes from one of my next books and and it is very much Not common sense because it's not common anymore, but it's good sense It is it is what you should you should not be an extremist You should not be a radical in the sense or maybe you should be radical in how you think but definitely in how you express That thought it comes out as very balanced and very respectful and at the same time, you know And this is perhaps a difference between the Swedish mind and my Italian Okay, now it's Swiss mind, but suddenly there is more rigidity and I think that people from more south in Europe like me They look high to rigidity because we are more flexible in sometimes and I think in today's world flexibility Has been a problem because we accepted too much things doing compromises And and as a man myself in my life I I find out now that I need more rigidity because I made too many compromises and in fact, this is this is the point that balance is in fact the fruit of Not doing compromises, especially with yourself What what do you think because I think this is comes out of your book a lot. What do you think of that? Yes, so basically I would agree that much of the Especially the philosophy part and the politics part of the book. They are common sense But it's just that we live in such such a clown world at the moment that Common sense is being seen as extremist. So when I write when I wrote the book and when I promote my My insights, etc. I I'd never tried to be You know reactionary in that sense I always try to have my worldview based on myself So even if they say, oh, you are an extremist. I don't listen to them I don't want to play into their stereotype of what I should be because I see this quite often that Primarily younger guys. They say, oh, they're gonna call us extremists or fascists anyway So therefore we might well be super extreme, but that's letting them that's letting the enemy Dictate the pace for us. So for me, it's just my views. A lot of it is common sense. It is something you could say to Regular man 70 years ago 100 years ago 200 years ago a thousand years ago and he would say yeah, of course, of course It's completely natural to put your own family first. Of course It's only natural to look out for your local communities to support your local economy to to have You know to take responsibility for your family to be a man among men to be a good Father figure, etc. It's just today that it's so you know fathers are vilified So if you look on parents magazines, it's Nowadays you don't often see a father, especially not a white father So for me, it's sort of like, you know, going back to basics is promoting common sense and saying with a voice of Yeah, a clear voice saying, you know what you're you're not it's not strange to believe in these things It's completely natural is completely normal. So yeah That's my that's my take on the the extremists question. It's we are the normal ones. They are the extreme ones no, I agree and unfortunately they the these people who have very strong ideology they have taken control of The universities in the 1920s and 1930s and and it's been worsening since Then somewhere else in the 70s. They took control of popular culture then they took control of the schools of the kindergartens now and And now they can force their agenda even if in numbers they represent a very tiny portion of the population and so because the whole education system from cradle To the grave in fact because it compasses everything is representing of of a very strange and special Sick mind, I think and called sick culture We need to have Education in parallel to reeducate to relearn retrain reteach Things to young people and in your book you put a lot of effort a lot of emphasis On the effort that people need to do for self discipline And and and this is I was not surprised by that because knowing how much you you practice sports And I do practice sports on on a much lower level, but certainly I know How much discipline you need to wake up every morning do what you need to do take the time And have an objective to have For some people it's a it's a beautiful and nice body for other. It's a functional and healthy or it can be all together How does your background in Fitness and and and and and culture is and I don't know how you call that certainly you do kickboxing and Tyboxing and I think How that self discipline that you learned for sports. How do you see it? Being used for everyday life for everyday people Yeah, so so first and foremost, I think the What many many younger men they are something they're lacking and the lack of It creates Unhappiness so they lack direction. They lack goals. They lack something to strive for So they go around not really knowing what to aim for so they take every day as it is but I understand now that the the lack of Adventure the lack of struggle the lack of A higher goal to strive towards it's it's making them unhappy. So therefore they compensate by doing a lot of different things It might be drugs. It might be excessive Video game playing or it might be something that isn't really congruent with A long-term happiness. So when you have the the quest for physical excellence, it might be Getting better at tyboxing. It might be Getting physically more muscular. It might be even if you have someone who's running in the forest He might want to get a better time as long a time around the lap For example, as long as you have something to strive towards you will have that sense of being on a quest and that will be You know will give purpose to you Uh, so that is actually one of the first things I understood when I looked upon Other other young men Over. Yeah, this last 10 years. I saw they are, you know, something is missing and I think that is it And you don't really see it With with men who have their own companies They have that drive they have that fire But for a lot of especially young men when they don't have that When they're just drifting I think A lot of unhappiness And other detrimental behaviors come from it And in regards to the discipline aspect when you have when you start going to the gym, for example It's like a big piece of the puzzle is being placed and then smaller pieces are being placed There as well such as sleep When you go to when you train hard it can be tyboxing or it can be the gym or or wrestling or whatever it might be When you understand that you need a complete A complete puzzle and sleep is a it's an integral part there as well That will come into play then you understand. Okay diet is a good way So Automatically when you start seeing results in the gym when you start seeing that oh, can I optimize this? Can I get better by adjusting lifestyle factors? Then you start putting all of these Pieces into place So that's where A good place to start with discipline. I'd say it's when you understand that through discipline you will get so many benefits and when you get that taste of Well success in in the gym or in when you learn new stuff in in a martial arts or whatever it might be When you get that those small victories The discipline will come much easier because then you see a direct reward of it. So I'd say Usually I give the the gym As a good starting point because then a lot of different things will Will fall into place naturally in fact having having good physical exercise and fitness is Is a way to provoke end of things and hormones that makes you feel good And it's one of the best ways to get out of depression and especially these times where there is a lot of young people especially who cannot get out. They cannot party And this is a young young young people thing. They get depressed. They don't see a future because there's no Horrorism out of what has been happening for a year and a half. I cannot even mention because otherwise we get strained Um and yet and definitely sport going going running going fighting going Even if you have to do it in your room pull-ups and so on you and and and and And everything squats and whatever you need to do on your own will make you feel better You just but of course the discipline is hard. So looking at videos on the internet of training and and and finding perhaps How you say a role role role models people who like you for a lot of young people And and others can can when I was a kid. I used to like watch Arnold Schwarzenegger pumping iron and I never went to big big muscle development But certainly the discipline that was required was fascinating to me and and so the these I only I just didn't like the the fact that they all were almost half naked around with little Yeah, I found that to look a bit gay, but I understand now it's to show the muscles obviously, but it's a bit it's a bit weird But certainly certainly you you you given your book that Spark What what would be? So I again, we're we are talking about don't less Book my mark was falling the golden one And I'll put again the link so that you can order and again the merchandise that is with around The t-shirts that I actually also bought the t-shirt, but but I don't have it here But the hoodie is is amazing and it's actually it's very warm because here in the farm We have nice spring days in the during the day But in the morning at five in the morning when I go out and I walk and I and I check if everything is fine When between five and six I'm suddenly outside. It's a bit cold And it's very warm one. It's not like those thin Hoodies that you need a jacket on top. This one is is really nice So I'll put the link below What would be the the next projects that you have what what is your what is because you're also you're also a father So you're also a family man. So you're increasing the qualities to become a full man over time, which is it's a lifelong exercise What are your next projects? Yeah, so first of all was again, thank you for the kind words of the hoodie. I'm I'm quite pleased with it myself if I may say so So, yeah, of course, a long-term goal is to be a patriarch like yourself with a with a big family So, yeah, long-term goal a bit short-term goal Of course a lot of new things for lego gloria. So the the clothing rocking a polo shirt here as well So that's actually been my main focus ever since a while back since I understood that youtube wasn't really Yeah, being shadow band etc wasn't really going upwards As much as I You know in relation to the work I put in so I focused more on the clothing as of late same thing with the supplement company And then also I am actually I'm actually writing my second book at the moment So don't let this yes, you know, it's more a handbook on many things what to do how you can actively incorporate your Certain things in your life and the next book which will hopefully be out later this year It will more deal with the the culture and the war on On our minds. So it's more It's for for people to read it and to be able to better withstand certain cultural Influences that might be detrimental. So you see many things in culture. You always see the The the white man being bad. He's always immoral. He's always doing bad stuff You see that continuously repeated in in culture. So I I pointed out in the book saying okay look out for this So that's it's more about the The the mental aspect how to avoid getting into a certain way of thinking because when you do When you start believing that you are yourself, you are a bad individual just because of who you are Yeah, it won't be good for your mental well-being. It won't be good for your Quality of life And also it goes into the the broader Political struggle that how how we view ourselves. So At the moment, this is especially true in in sweden's situation We have been conditioned in our minds to always put others first So it's never about putting your own people first because that's Extremist or whatever. So I write a lot about You're trying to reconfigure our minds to To believe that it's Just as it was up until very recently It's normal and good. It's moral to to put your own family first So that's it's sort of like a compliment to Dauntless, but I talk more about Culture the the mental aspect how to rewire the way you think So, uh, yeah, that's the the next project Interesting. I certainly will look forward to to read it Perhaps one last question in your book You give a lot of emphasis on the importance of brotherhood of having Good friends you can rely on and you can train ways and so on and in today's world of High individualism and fragmentation of societies into little groups into Individual pleasures on the internet and entertainment and and so on We do not find at all the brotherhood the friendships that we could have in past generations and You you put emphasis on on building that How would you proceed for all the young men that listen to us and listen to you? What would advise would you tell them on how to recreate because it's not easy to to You know, you cannot just go to someone and say hi. Do you want to be friend? How how do you see is the most efficient and effective way to find real Good loyal people that you can be good and loyal to as well and and create this brotherhood Yeah, it's a very good question. I I get the question quite often actually from guys and the the general advice which I give and also, um male friendship is supremely important and I do believe that The enemy so to speak they they do Their best to to dismantle male friendship and again if we're talking about culture you often see male friendship Being portrayed as Maybe something gay or maybe something It's it's seen as something They're trying to dismantle it and that's a good sign for us that okay male friendship It is important and it has always been important and it will be important going forward as well Not only for mental well-being, but because if we want to You know create good change groups of men men rebund friendships. It's uh very important and to respond to your question I'd say that The the way you conduct yourself is what you will attract. So if you want to attract in terms of friendship Other men with similar qualities you first need to you know, build yourself up And then you will give out a certain aura you will shine like a light And others will see you see okay. This guy is interested in in training in In whatever it might be Different things he might be interested in in history in in culture in art in Improving himself. He might like martial arts. He might like all of these different things because they usually go together A certain type of man Will be interested in in certain types of types of things so good places to To find of course universities. They are a bit dominated by left-wing Individuals, but you can still find good people and then it's especially important if you if you carry yourself in a certain manner People will spot you I talk a lot about Physionomy that you can look on someone and see okay. Is this guy? Is he on our side? Usually it's true Not only you know, you can look on on someone how if they carry themselves in a good way If they take care of themselves, you can see if they're healthy. Usually you can see the glow in their face as opposed to People who are not on our side who are often Very sickly looking very frail Very different. So it's good to spot each other like that And you know the aura you present So the first step is to to build yourself into someone You would like to be friends with and then you will automatically attract similar like-minded people It's worked Very well for me at least over all these years that you know automatically you end up in similar situations to I mean, we're having this conversation now Because of yeah, you give out a certain aura. I give out a certain aura. We find each other So so yeah, that's a good way to start at least with yourself and You know, you will attract like-minded people eventually Excellent. Well, Marcus, thank you very much. I advise again everyone who's looking at us to to read your book The link is in the description. It's a legiogloria.com with a yes Or not No, it's together legiogloria.com Legiogloria.com So in case you don't look watch the video and you're listening to it That's where you want to go and I've been there easy to buy you click you click you select what you want you you have great merchandise and Easy to pay and get delivered very fast. So so I advise you to do it's a great book I look forward to your next one And when everyone can travel perhaps organize again to meet somewhere last time we met in norway. It was great Maybe we meet in russia. Maybe we meet in sweden. Who knows there's We we we have to see what's going to be possible in the future. Anyway, thank you very much and Let's let's keep hitting the temple of iron as as you say to everyone and I'll we'll we'll connect soon. Thanks. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you very much for having me good Good talking to you as always