 I'm in the Sinova Phonak booth with Helena Riedel and she's got a banner behind her that says, assistive listening devices for college. Tell us about this, Helena. Well, it's definitely assisted listening devices that would help students that's hard of hearing and also students with autism and auditory processing disorder. It would help them focusing in the classroom. Oh, that's kind of interesting. Now you're holding, this is audio and video, by the way. So I'll be describing as well as you what it is you're holding. So what do you have in your hand there? Okay, I have a Roger Penn that is one of our most popular microphones for the schools and it is a directional microphone that you can either clip through the clothing or hang around your neck. It's also an interview style microphone where you can hold it in front of the person that is talking and it helps the students that's hard of hearing. Also you can put it on the table and it becomes a table microphone and it picks up six feet omnie. Oh, wow. So I'm looking at this thing, it just looks like a pen. It's got a clip on the back so that's where you just clip it onto your clothing and I can see a micro USB port on the other end and a couple of buttons. That's very elegant looking. It doesn't look janky, you know, it just looks nice. It looks smooth and it's very simple for the teachers. They don't want clunky big things and hanging around. Like this giant microphone I'm shoving in your face, right? It's a lot more subtle than that. Yeah. No, no problem. Okay, so that's the microphone. Now what's the rest of this? Okay, the rest of it, then we have a Roger Select and the Roger Select is one of our microphones that you also can hang as a directional microphone. So this is a cylinder or is a small circular device, I don't know, smaller than the bottom of a teacup I would call it in diameter. And it's got six microphones. So when you put it on the table, when you put it on the table, you can see here if you put it on. She's turning it on right now. So it's got six little slots. Oh, he's got one turned on over here. It's bright green. So right now it's picking up all the extra, it can detect who is speaking. Oh, okay. And it will focus on me right now if I'm talking. If you're talking, we notice that I know very good the microphone that I directed at you. Oh, I see what's going on. Christian Vogler has joined us to help in the conversation here. Oh, okay, with your cochlear implant? Okay, cool. Well, now we've got two microphones going, but how are we hearing? Oh, you can, it's a multi-talker network. So you can connect several microphones to the receiver and you will still hear. So what is the receiver? The receiver is this. Okay, I'm going to shut this off. Got to save batteries. This is one of the receivers we have. It's a MyLink and it's got a neck loop and the neck loop will connect with the T-coil in the hearing aid. Oh, I see. So this is a separate receiver that receives transmits up to the microphone. And it also have an outlet for headsets so you can, if you don't have hearing aids or if you, for example, don't have T-coil and you can't use the ear level receiver, another ear level receiver we have, then you can use headphones. Oh, I see, and like you were saying, for people with autism, they might not be hard of hearing, but they need the help focusing. They could just use headphones. Right, exactly, they can use, and we have for autism an auditory processing disorder, we have another receiver that looks like a hearing aid, but it is a receiver, but we don't have it here to show it. So that's one of them. I see, I see. Now, Christian, so you've got these, can hear from these microphones, you said to your cochlear implant, but so you're not using one of these, the receiver? Well, I wouldn't use this normally because the cochlear implant and processing has to be seen by bedding and the wireless connectivity more about than using a neck loop. A neck loop with a sub-tabeto, electromagnetic interference, it's probably not a problem here, but for instance, if I go into the metro in my home city, or have an old home that has unfeared electrical wires, that wouldn't work particularly well, but they start with the connect. Okay, so you're saying that this transmitter receiver would run into problems, but you can hear directly from these tiny directional microphones into your cochlear implant directly. It actually has a smaller receiver in here. Now he's taking it off, showing it to us. Oh, okay. So that's the processor, that's the battery, that's the power, the receiver that's connected to this. So you could take it off and put it on somewhere else too. Oh, wow, that's crazy. We're getting a full multimedia demonstration here on the fly. Exactly, yeah, so that's the Roger Select, and it transmits into his ear level receiver. That's great. Now I'm hearing a lot of different company names here, so I'm getting a little confused. Roger makes the microphones? Right, that's the technology, the Roger is the technology. I see, I see. And Sonova owns Phonak, and Advanced Bionic and Unitron, so they're a big- Oh no, she's adding company names, I'm losing. Okay, so Phonak is the company we're caring about here and they're using the Roger technology. Okay, this is very good. So if somebody, oh, I'm sorry, I stole his. So if somebody wanted to learn more about these for the hearing impaired and those with trouble-focusing, where would they go? Well, if they're at the school, the disability coordinator will help the students and we can help them out by giving them a trial period so that a student can try it and see if they like it or if it works for them. But for example, if it is a consumer, then they need to go to an audiologist. Oh, I see, so you would get this from an audiologist. Exactly, exactly. So if they want to see these products, is there a website they can look at, though? Yes, it's more than a hearingaid.com. More than a hearingaid.com. All right, great, thank you very much. This was great. Thank you. And thank you, Christian. I'm sorry? Thank you. Oh, so you're welcome. So, you know, I tell your mother course, so you know there's a lot of noise here, right? Yeah, right, absolutely. Yeah, so with this, and with this combined, I can hear your audio. We both speak very, very clearly about the noise. It's really easy to hear you even from a distance. So you might be hearing us better than I'm hearing you. Well, so I'm not sure about that. Your voice sounds clear to me, but I don't hear the voice in the same way you hear in person, right? So I'm not as good as I understand, I think, that you are. We can't trade ears to compare, can we? All right, well, thanks for your assistance on this, though, Christian. Thank you very much. You're welcome. Thank you so much. Thank you.