 Welcome, welcome. I think Jim is going to be joining us in a second here. And we're going to be talking about reclaim press today and kind of playing around with some stuff. Jim, whenever you're ready, you can throw yourself on stage. But yeah, we had a community chat on Wednesday talking about kind of scaling WordPress in general and sort of what some of the challenges are, what some of the things we see as a hosting company in terms of unmet niches, basically, from small sites to large sites. Hey, Jim. Hey, how are you, Tyler? I'm doing good. Yeah, I can hear you. I just realized I need to take our little banner off that says starting soon. Starting soon! I've already started already. But I wanted to get the stream going at nine, so I kind of started it while I got a couple of things ready. But yeah, I was just saying that we had a community chat on Wednesday talking about scaling WordPress in general and also about this platform that we're sort of putting together that you've been kind of working a lot on recently of ReclaimPress and how we think that could, this could fit a lot of needs that we think are kind of currently unmet for folks that we talk to who are running WordPress sites that, you know, running a WordPress site on shared hosting or domain on one's own is great for smaller sites and personal sites. And it's really inexpensive, which is awesome. We've been doing a lot of stuff with Reclaim Cloud and running larger sites there. Reclaim Cloud can do all kinds of different things, but one thing it does really well is WordPress. The problem with Reclaim Cloud for larger WordPress sites is that you don't get a lot of the management niceties that you can get in CPanel right now. So what we're really excited about is this new platform ReclaimPress that brings a lot of that ease of use to sort of a cloud infrastructure for hosting WordPress sites. So we talked a lot about that on Wednesday. I think it would be a good, if you're interested in hearing about that, go to community.reclaimhosting.com and you can check out our community chat, our last video there. But today is kind of about us just sort of playing with the platform and just kind of probably, I'm thinking I've got a project in mind that I want to try. I don't know if you have stuff you want to try, but yeah, there's a lot of work that you can go. I give up one thing, Taylor, that I think you're going to be happy to learn about. So we'll jump right into it. One of the things that was a limitation on Reclaim Cloud was, as Taylor mentioned and I tested and confirmed, you can't, when you create a, when you map a domain on a Reclaim Cloud environment, in order to get a free SSL cert, you need to add an IP address, which adds money to your monthly spend. Yeah, IP addresses cost us money for each single one. So that costs the customer money, too, to be clear. So we're buying blocks of IPs. It actually loses us money when they're not being used, which is a bummer. Yeah. But when they are being used, the end user of that IP pays $3 in Reclaim Cloud for that IP, which for a larger project, yeah, sorry, $3 monthly, for a larger project isn't the end of the world. Exactly. But as we just talked about WordPress sites, the scale on WordPress, that's the beautiful thing about WordPress, is it can be down to a site that one person a year visits to White House's website is WordPress, right? The US government uses WordPress in everything in between. And it was a really good point. Like, you know, just adding that cost monthly would be for someone who's on shared hosting to be like, you know, I have a shared IP, that saves me money. And there's a lot of reasons to stay on shared hosting to be clear. Oh, yeah, we love shared hosting. But it's not good for you. Your WordPress won't fly on it. The point really is that you can, when you point a CNAME at a environment in Reclaim Press, you do not, I repeat, you do not need an IP address for an SSL cert to automatically work. I have tested that on two different sites now. I've tested that on BrianMMathers.com. And so this is actually being pointed as a CNAME in Cloudflare. And I'm going to pull it up right now. And it is not using any A record. It's amazing. Amazing. And it's such a beautiful site that I just want to show it. So here's my map. That's it. Yes, you got it. So this is actually on Reclaim Press. I'll pull yours up here. It is CNAME. So basically it is being pointed as a CNAME and bound to the environment. And when you issue an SSL within the Reclaim Press dashboard, the WordPress experience, if you will, it automatically goes in iCheck. So did the environment in the more traditional admin interface, which we can look at, issue an IP address. And the answer there is no. So look at this. This is our old, it's not old. This is our complimentary Reclaim Cloud. But when I go to Reclaim Press, and let me do that right now. And I might be, I'm playing with a couple of things right now. So I might be a little over the place. But that's all right. Nothing new there. So this is actually not, well, so trust me, it worked. And then I tried it on Anth 101, which you see here. And Anth 101 is Anthology 101, Michael West's course. And it was kind of an open online course that kind of Tom Woodward helped develop and Michael West taught. And this one is using a CNAME without. And I know it's not using a special SSL through Cloudflare because it's not running through Cloudflare. It's using our DNS. Okay. So that was my question. I know is actually running securely. Anth101.com. And there is no IP address on this environment. So that's really cool. It works. Yeah, that's what I was playing with this morning. Talk about playing with Reclaim Press. That was my play. Yeah, that's, that's really exciting. Like you said for the cost savings and is, is really nice there. But also this is exciting for me too. Cause I think it actually has implications for Reclaim Cloud as well because for, for non WordPress stuff. I know we're here to talk about WordPress today, but, but I am one of the things that, that draws me to Reclaim Cloud so much is I think I've always been really into just the idea of self hosting. All kinds of different applications. Like I love to see how easy some of these things are that like 10 years ago, we would have thought of as like, you're going to, you're going to, you're going to self host your own YouTube alternative. Are you insane? You know, and now it's just like, sure, click a button. PeerTube exists. You know. So I'm kind of excited to also take that knowledge and learn how are they doing that and Reclaim Press and you know, what would that look like on the cloud as well. But that's kind of a tangent all on its own, but that, that is exciting. Here's some more playing. So if we're talking about playing the other thing I did yesterday you helped me with some of the r-syncing stuff is I moved Baba Tuesdays, which is running a standalone multi region, which means it's replicating across two different data centers across two different regions. And you'll see my instance on Reclaim Cloud is stopped because this is now running cleanly, I would say, and very fast on Reclaim Press. So this is not that one. Let me just log in and show you that. This is kind of cool. So I'm going to log out. So this is Reclaim Press. This is our, we have actually have a production instance in already McCauley's community site, which is a WordPress multi site, which is working quite well. But I have a new challenge that I'm going to try and work through. So this is kind of fun. And I don't know how well we can test it because one of the challenges of testing and Reclaim Press is caching. Caching is pretty aggressive. That engine X caching. Although this is light speed environment. So it probably won't be. Light speed is, light speed is pretty aggressive too. But, but in both cases, there are ways to clear that cash. So it's, it's usually for me, a matter of figuring out a is caching my issue. And then B, where do I clear that again? Cause I never really remember. Yeah, exactly. We're doing it on the server and on the app and, you know, in cloudflare and. And one nice thing though is that the default WordPress install that rolls out in Reclaim Press when you, when you install WordPress, it comes with, if you're using light speed, the engine X, sorry, the light speed cash plugin, which I think when you hit that purge should purge the server, but I'm not positive about that. But for engine X, I know there's a special plugin for engine X because light speed to. You and I know this cause we deal with it literally every day, but, but for folks who are maybe watching and you know, there, there, there are apparently a couple of people watching a Reclaim TV and a couple of people watching on YouTube. So I know Eric. Hi everybody. From, from Rochester. So that's awesome. Eric's always there. He's the best. Yeah. We got to get him like a, a badge or something. I don't know. We got a Reclaim TV t-shirt maybe. Yeah, honestly. We haven't had those yet. We need to make them custom one for Eric. Yeah. Um, and, uh, but anyway, uh, light speed is an Apache sort of, they call it a drop in alternative. And in our experience that's 98% true. Uh, but it's, it's faster. Um, and it does more aggressive caching stuff. And it is also very specifically has, uh, optimizations for WordPress. Um, engine X is the other option in Reclaim Press. I don't think Reclaim Press will let you roll out a standard Apache server, but to be perfectly honest, there's not much reason to use Apache in this platform. In fact, um, yeah, it's, it's right. And in fact, one of the ways they distinguish kind of a regular WordPress instance on Reclaim Press versus a kind of pro is light speed. If you add light speed, it's considered because light speed is not free technically, right? There's a licensing fee. I think, um, um, there's also like, uh, there are different licenses on light speed depending on how you're using it, right? Like, so if there's multiple domains tied to a single light speed server, if you have more than five, I think there's a, there's a more expensive cost. It's not crazy. Like we use it for pretty much every WordPress multi-site that we've been hosting. Sorry. Every, every site that we've brought into our platform the last couple of years basically, but it is just something to note. Um, but the nice thing is that the license is built in. You don't have to go find that and pay it separately. It's built into the cost on Reclaim Cloud and Reclaim Press. But what I wanted to say is light speed has specific WordPress ties and that plugin, I believe, will clear the server cache, but I think we've run into instances where that wasn't completely true. Engine X doesn't really have any of those ties. It's a much more generically, it's an open source tool. It's older than light speed, not quite as old as Apache, but there's a special plug-in when you are using Engine X in here that will force the server to clear its cache in WordPress, which is nice except when you can't get to that plug-in because the caching is the issue and you can't get to your dashboard yet. That's not normal. That's for, I had one really weird situation where that was the case, but that's one other case. If you have that caching and because of the way you've migrated in, it's pointing to the wrong file structure or the wrong path. And that's exactly what I had, yes. So there is some issues where it can go with the path, but like the fun... Migration is still a, can still be a not fun time. It's a finesse, yeah, for sure. So I've been doing migration speaking of, I migrated DS106 to a multi-region. It's not live yet because I have to do the DNS, but let me actually ask you a question. This is kind of a new, this is us getting into the playing. So DS106 was a single standalone WordPress on Reclaim Cloud. It was running, I think, in a lightspeed environment, or I don't know, I think it was lightspeed. It was a lamp environment. So no, it was engine X. And so I moved it seamlessly, but I haven't pointed to DNS. And here's why. And this is a very different kind of scenario I haven't dealt with with multi-region yet. So if I go to my DNS records for, and I don't know if I should block these, but whatever, here's my IPs. It's all open. So anyway, this is some of the pointing of the IPs for DS106. So I have to add a second DS106 because I have two servers now with two IPs. My question is, these are subdomains of mapped, right? They kind of put all the individual subdomains, although they're running off of, do I have to do this with two different server IDs? I think I do. Is there a reason why you can't do a wildcard? I do have a wildcard, but it was running into some issues and I found it cleaner and safer to just do it because there's only five or six subdomains and DS106 said it's not growing. But that means I have to do two subdomains for everyone. Well, yeah, I will say I have not played with the Cloudflare like load balancing DNS kind of stuff as much as you have. So in my head, the idea of yeah, you would have to do two for each makes sense. I think you would. Yeah. I'm going to test it. So I won't do it here, but that's my point. It requires the proxying though, right? It requires that proxy record to be working because technically all the DNS, when you're proxying through Cloudflare, it's all going to Cloudflare and then Cloudflare decides where the bits flow from there basically. And they will need to be, I'll try like what I'll do is I'll turn all these off and I'll try the wildcard proxy and this proxy because that would save me some time. But if I don't, if they run into issues, you know, luckily. Well, and I wonder if proxying a wildcard is not an option too. I'm seeing that little warning. Yeah. I have to re-investigate. I'm getting far afield of where I want to go, but that's, I'm like, this is something I've wanted to do forever is make the Azure 6 multi-region. And so I'm kind of very close to having that done and I'm super excited. So that's been my play. I've brought like five. I've brought maybe seven sites over to Reclaim Crest in the last few days. I'm kind of getting comfortable with working it and I'm starting to understand the interface. Again, this is, so this is an interesting point here if you're watching. This is the old Reclaim Cloud interface, right? For if you're on Reclaim Cloud, it's basically the app interface is what they call it and that's dropdown and it has a lot of the information about IP addresses and you have your control situation here, but these are WordPresses and this would be identical to pretty much any other environment, right? Maybe with some specific differences, whereas here is the interface for WordPress in Reclaim Press, which is what the user will use 99% of the time, if not a hundred, to actually manage their WordPress instance. And as you can see, it just takes everything that's in the other interface and it gussies us up, makes it look a little bit nicer, simpler. You have all of your resources like database information, SSH and SFDP, data center, PHP version, which you can redeploy, WordPress version. You can get a look at all the different plugins you have installed right here and you can turn them on to turn them off right from the admin interface and that didn't work. I'm going to have to look at that. Sometimes it has problems when it comes over with migration. I got to check that and then custom domain mapping, SSL installation, backup storage, which is great. Endpoint subscription plan. And then finally, finally, finally, finally more account stuff is you go over here and you have your account and then your subscriptions or your system settings, which will have more kind of global backup stuff get in SSL search, if you want to add your own. So it's very kind of focused just on WordPress and just doing that WordPress and that's what ReclaimPress essentially is. It's an elegant interface for WordPress that's running essentially on the same infrastructure as Reclaim Cloud. Yeah, for sure. I think one thing we'll have to come up with and maybe we can even, I don't know how much, yeah, we have controls over like what the site title basically, the site title is WordPress parlance for it, but what goes in the tab? What's the Europe? We should really try and separate out terminology-wise because this isn't publicly available yet. We do have some folks that aren't Reclaimers that are testing this a little bit too and if you're really interested, we can, and you're seeing this, we can shoot us an email and we'd be happy to get feedback. But for the public launch whenever we're ready for that, I think it would be good while we're documenting it to have a really clear like, this interface is called, and I know Virtuoso calls it the WordPress experience, I think that name is descriptive and that's the best thing about it. Maybe, but it would be good to have like, we call this the, I don't know, maybe we do go with WordPress experience. Maybe we call it dashboard or something. The WordPress dashboard is confusing though because that's what WordPress calls their dashboard. Yeah, there's too many dashboards and then we get into situations where on domain of one's own we call dashboard a few different things there too, although that's not really relevant here. But anyway, yeah. So let's not use dashboard. We'll call it, how about some kind of control panel? How about your ReclaimPress, like ReclaimPress actually starts to meet with the thing it is. So ReclaimPress is your WordPress in Reclaim. Well, in my actual, I think now I'm thinking of Mission Control. Yeah, now what I want though is a distinction between this and the other view, right? The, what we see in Reclaim Cloud and maybe we call it the ReclaimPress simplified view or in the advanced view, you know, or something like that, because as far as I'm aware right now, all of the stuff you do in here is possible in the advanced view, but... Almost everything, yeah. But it's in some cases, you know, either, there's one exception I know of right now, but in some cases it's like you can do it, but it would be a few steps and you'd really have to know what you're doing, like the whole production staging thing. I know the plugins is not available in the advanced view, but you know what I mean? Like maybe it's the simplified and advanced view, you know, or I don't know, we call it original recipe or something. It's funny because I wonder at the point you want someone, it'd be interesting to have a space in the, you know, WordPress experience or in the simple view where it says go to, you know, you know, go to the advanced view, right? And I think that would be interesting or do we just not? Do we kind of prevent, you know, advanced view access to simplify and if they have to do something in advanced view, because collaboration and moving is coming to the simple view. So it won't be like something you have to go to more sophisticated, but it is, I wonder if just by allowing that other view would just create more problems than... I think maybe not revealing it. I think there's going to be situations where people want that, particularly for terminal access, but I would agree with you that it's probably best if we simply don't even talk about it. Like 99% of people will never need to know that other view even exists. And maybe we just keep it that way, right? And for some folks they will know, for troubleshooting purposes, right? But that's a good point. What are people actually going to need to go over there? We hope nothing. That's the whole point. That would be the ideal. I think it's need to know only and if someone is having an issue that they can't do here, that's a good space for a ticket. And then we know what things we're getting tickets a lot about. This should really be in the experience that it's easy to do, but it's just not happening because it's not available. I think that's probably the smartest way to do it. What about one thing I realized I haven't done yet. Do you want to pull yours? I'm going to share my screen for a little bit here. So my project for today, we'll see if we actually have enough time for this. I'll have to make things a little bit bigger because it's this tool, the MU migration tool which you've been playing around with a bit. I have played around with just a little tiny bit, but basically this is a WordPress CLI package that you can use to take either individual sites out of a multi-site and migrate them to another multi-site or individual WordPress sites and migrate just one of them to a single WordPress site. So those two specific things. What I want to do is use it to just do a simple migration of a site that I have just a basic site that I have on shared hosting over to ReclaimPress just so I have something to play with. I don't use a lot of WordPress sites for my own personal projects only because I work with WordPress every day for all the other stuff but I don't have that many WordPress sites that are just for fun on my own shared hosting but I do have one and it's this very simple site at the moment that we have some family recipes put into and basically I use Gravity Forms so there is Gravity Forms on this to make it really easy to add to this site and I'm currently doing the work of encouraging my wife to add to it to make it really successful but she likes the site I think she likes it a lot because I did it and she hasn't had to put anything here yet though but anyway this is a site it's got a couple images it's got a few posts but it's not very complicated I want to just try migrating it to ReclaimPress without using anything else so I can migrate it manually I've done that quite a bit I don't like those plugins because they frequently don't work for me I think they would work with a simple site like this but I feel like it's a good opportunity to do some demoing and experimentation here at the same time so I'm going to create a new project I'll call it Recipes I like to just kind of use that to signify the domain name and then we'll continue I can pick we've got three regions right now I'll just go with the East Coast region actually you know what, I haven't rolled any let's go to the Canadian region, why not so I can use okay so I see there's a WooCommerce package now this is new we must have enabled this recently I added it this morning okay cool now go to WordPress standalone and see what that says so it has WordPress standalone but not pro so well that's Lightspeed Lightspeed is pro and then WordPress standalone is with Nginx and then WooCommerce they have a special WooCommerce setup yeah this is I don't love this interface I think this is a little confusing right now we may need to mess with what we're calling things but like right here I'm going to add a new plan like you know what I mean I don't understand what this is yeah you could have one that's a WordPress standalone that has more resources and you could have one that has less resources or you could have a WooCommerce specific one so yeah you could have more that'd be for like multi-region things exactly so let's just say you have a site that needs more resources so you want to use Lightspeed and I just generically named everything again none of this is is in stone I'm just trying to get used to it well I guess my question is sort of like why does this one have an add new plan and this one doesn't you know what I mean probably because you have never subscribed to this one you only have subscribed to the standalone okay right so now you have a plan a single standalone plan that you can add more websites to if you wanted right now that one only has one but you could add a new plan where you add more websites to that same plan interesting that's something we'll have to kind of we'll have to come up with how are we describing that I think for folks a little bit but I'll just do a basic standalone for now because this is a pretty small site so and I won't need anywhere near that amount of disk and that'll be plenty cloudlets so we'll have this create here and it's going to do its thing this is I should say too this is already though for the purposes of I would like WordPress significantly faster if you don't know what you're doing especially like if you get dumped at the normal reclaim cloud interface and you want to install WordPress it's not hard if you know where to look but why would people know how where to look you know you can you can go to the marketplace and go to go to search for WordPress here but a standalone kit and install and that's great but you know you have to know a little bit of the language of reclaim cloud so it's really nice to see that that this is such a funneled kind of easy to use experience it's so while that's going I'm going to try and use this emu migration plug-in so I'm going to actually log into my I will need terminal access for this I'm going to log into my shared hosting account and I don't know can you see this is this big enough so I'm going to go to my recipes subdomain and I think I'm just passing this a little bit I think I've already got the package installed here but I'm going to try it out anyway it's like we're good so with a simple command you can export a whole site into a zip package so I'm going to run this and what this will do is end up making a site.zip file in the recipes folder so I'm actually going to want to be careful about that because that is a publicly accessible file so I want to delete that when I'm done with the migration but that's that and so that zip file has been created now over on the reclaimed press side I am waiting on it to make the environment yet but I'm going to need to do the migration in the way I'm doing here I'm going to need terminal access so I'm actually going to look I think I have my keys added already yes I do so I go back to my terminal here I should be able to great so that'll be good to go once reclaimed press is ready for me to be clear this is not a this is not what everyone is everyone's process this is me playing with kind of an advanced tool with that MU migration tool I think for most people you're going to be spinning up a website here and just start using it and for migrations we do offer a migration service people can work with us and we can we can move stuff for you or you I would probably recommend most people use updraft plus we actually have an article on that too so this is just an opportunity for me to try something new so you're pushing updraft plus right now I'm not pushing it or a little bit like you're pushing it I mean our article tells you how to use it to migrate sites without paying it's not piracy it's just sort of a work around their own little thing you're showing off MU migration so you should I think you should promote that that's a free well I don't want people you know one of the one of the things I'm cautious about here is the whole point of this is a simple interface right but if the first thing you have to do is set up SSH keys and get access to a terminal well then we've lost we've lost the simplicity battle this isn't an apologia this is a playtime you don't have to apologize that's true yeah as pilot says I'm a notorious updraft plus she'll I never use it exactly but you are like I hate updraft plus I hate it but you should use it but you should use it the reason the reason I never use it is the migrations that I you and I do are not easy ones right we're we're the the not just you and me really the whole company if someone is asking reclaim hosting do a migration it's probably on kind of a kind of a tricky site or a large one and that's where those plugins don't do as well so yeah so does it is taken a little bit for me here to get in here it looks like it's getting created though there we go so I love this little I love the this little view it's cool it's kind of interesting to see here you can kind of see as the container was doing stuff like I'd be willing to bet right here is when it was possibly setting up the database and stuff but anyway so if I go here right now I've got a basic WordPress site here now I should ask how do I know how to log into this I guess I got an email probably which I don't really want to pull my emails up on screen you did get an email yep I did so had the login information yeah okay so here's the email I got I can go here and or here for admin and there is my password and there's my database password this like anything we do on these streams probably delete this right after because I don't really want my database password out there but yeah so here we go we've got a site it's pretty fast already right out of the box it does come with both the W3 total cache plugin and the nginx cache plugin so I am actually going to go ahead and deactivate the W3 total cache for now while I'm doing this migration and I guess I might as well update the plugins here yeah that's one issue actually is like it comes right now it's installing them as 6.2.2 rather than 6.3.1 and Brian Mathers when I was doing his migration was like yes I got to create database issues and I'm like it's probably not because we're going to yeah it's going to drop the database and import a new one or at least I was oh yeah and especially in that case it doesn't matter so it doesn't matter but like I understand the concern if you're like oh wait it's not the same version it's probably better to just keep the versions updated and then go yeah I've done some real not great things with different versions of WordPress like recently I like tried downgrading this site a WordPress site from WordPress 6.3.1 to WordPress 4 as part of that exploration I was doing with Docker and that worked which was mind-blowing to me now there wasn't much content in the site this is just for playing around right but WordPress seems to be I take for granted a lot of the stuff that they're clearly working very hard on to make that work because we see this a lot with other tools like like Scalar and Omega and stuff where normally it's not something you'd want to do all right so I've got this set up here I'm gonna close I've got a few too many tabs I'm losing losing my thread here okay so here's my site and let me get the SSH info so I can SSH with this and tab here okay so that's great I'm in now I am gonna go to the web root which because of reclaimed cloud I know that it's probably in this folder yes bar www web root root okay so um I am actually gonna go and download that site zip file that I made and I can get here it is okay um I could use ftp to bring it over but because it's currently a zip file that's just in the my WordPress directory on my shared hosting account I'm just gonna move it over like this with W get and now if I go back to here so it says I can import a site from a zip package like this yeah but it also says you can overwrite the URL you can go new URL multisitedev.site I'm not sure if I'm going to I think I may just point it yeah I may point it in DNS because I think this might become my kind of sandbox site I may keep this one although to be honest no because I just exposed my database credentials so I'll probably do this again later so I am actually going to use this tool to have it rewrite a new URL so this is one thing it's kind of nice um is you can tell it hey make make it replace in the database the URL with this one so that um because WordPress writes URLs to the database so if you're changing the domain name or otherwise changing the URL that can be a problem so I'm going to run this and I'm going to make the URL just to kind of default URL that you have yeah we'll do it this way for now so um that's the URL that I want so yeah exactly okay I don't know if the trailing slash matters I'm going to get rid of it oh I forgot to install it because I installed this over on shared hosting but not in my really impressed environment yeah it has to be installed on both Taylor yeah just as an endpoint just so you know oh wait you're doing it now it's going it's going all right now let me run the import again this is a pretty small site so that was that was pretty fast but look at this it's pretty cool for anyone who's ever done a migration or a multi-set migration feast your eyes on this well let's see if it works though oh okay so it mostly works it's a little busted looking um so I'm pretty sure I actually know what this is I think this is a um an upload path issue um because it probably brought over the upload path um from shared hosting but let me actually look in the browser console here that's interesting I'm not actually getting any errors but um let me let me just get into the dashboard um upload folder is not writable ah that's a permissions issue oh okay all right that's that's fine we can we can fix that that's fine fine let me also purge the nginx cache here oh cache zone path interesting um okay yeah so permissions issues so then what I'll do I'm actually going to go to our um port site here and we've got an article on how to fix permissions of folders files on via the terminal and there's a find command in here that is really handy for this kind of stuff so um this will change both the directories and files um to the right permissions I may now that I just thought of this I may need to do some user oh maybe not we'll see we'll just run this see if this helps anything okay well maybe I need to go in the database and look at what that upload folder is so for the database stuff I can go here I know yep database info oh that's cool is a reset password thing in here that's really awesome well maybe I will end up mapping this because I can just reset my database password um and the database password is also in the email so I can use that to get in okay options upload oh yeah here it is so here's the upload path and it's this is no good it says home jdmi recipes this is the upload path for shared hosting I'm going to have to fix that okay oh this is my old site alright so that fixed that now I don't know if it's going to fix the design things going on here because it is weird that I have um like this is so busted looking right now but I don't remember it might be is it cached cached's own path is not said so I don't know where that cache would supposed to be I mean I think that setting got overwritten when I imported things but I don't know that for sure I'll explore around here and see if I can figure that out oh I didn't spell the engine x right specified in the engine x fast CGI pass cache okay so I think if I look at the engine x config clues here use emu migration it will be easy he said it'll be easy it won't break everything well this is what we're trying to learn um you know what I'm going to do for now is I'm just going to use use command line it will be easy he said let me restart here I don't know if engine x would um I guess it's now time to turn to google engine x cache location okay so it should be a directive called proxy cache path in so I was kind of in the right idea um and okay let me open my notes because we are going to have to do some some command line foo here um so did not disconnect me that's cool was able to restart this without it disconnecting me neat still busted okay I wonder though to if this could be caching it also could just be I don't remember what I did with this site I could have done some weird stuff look at this so this this looks fine this does make me think that this is caching because it looks fine here um the other thing I could do I suppose to is um I could look at the new project I could just make one here and see what the default but actually I think Brian I'm looking at an email he just sent because he was playing around he was having the caching issue too but hold on I think he found out where that path was hold on I'm just oh interesting so I this is making more sense to me so I have paying I'm paying five dollars a month right now for this subscription and it's being used up so it's I get what you're saying now I could add a new plan which would give me another slot basically this is a way to handle the fact that that word that reclaim prices not pay as you go it's a subscription product which is which will be nice for a lot of people um so okay so are you looking for the engine x path yes it's it's VAR WW web root root and then slash dot cash according to that's for the plugin so if you go to tools engine x cash that's where we'll put you okay cool uh right let me go see if that works plug in and thank you Brian matters that's a solution that's why when people stop playing with this it's great because many hands make light work and that will allow you to purge the engine x cash locally and then see hmm okay so I didn't fix my home page so it wasn't the caching um I don't think in this particular case let me try it what's what's the URL because I'm not I never went to it so I would have no caching issues um it is I'll put it in the private chat here thank you perfect so let me see if this loads to me no it's broken yeah I think this is like I said this has got to be a weird case of something with the emu migration tool and and my custom you know home page I've got here let's try something else go into app.my.reclaim.press and try to clear the path in the add-ons the cache you want me to just delete the that folder or the content of that folder no go to the add-ons oh and they have a clear cache oh whoops I'm not I want to reclaim your I got it it's not there but they have one that's I guess just doing maybe the same thing with the plugin I don't know but there is a cache manager try cleaning that because that would explain why I'm still seeing it if it's cached on the server yeah cache mangler um yeah let's see no no it's something else that's fine I think what we get to do right now Jim we get to curse full site editing on wordpress oh is that a full site editing site this is a full site editing site I am at this point unapologetic I think there's lots of problems with it but I can do a lot of things in full site editing now that I previously would have had to have side and install Elementor for Elementor is a great tool that I personally have really terrible luck with so um it doesn't it doesn't like me um so anyway this is a full site editing site but yeah I think something to do with the way this was migrated just is not jiving so um I'm not 100% sure what that is though and I've to be clear I've probably done some real janky I've probably done something like messed up my CSS in some way that's URL specific you know I wouldn't be surprised if this is just a this site issue to be honest with you so I'm going to call this a partial win for ME migration but that I need more more investigation is necessary but it's pretty generous to call this a partial win I mean here's what we're going to do we're going to switch the theme to something simple let's go to 2017 everybody's favorite theme I think the good thing look at that plant how can you not like that plant um looks like WordPress site to me so I think this is something about my full site editing stuff did not carry over properly um cool yes so while you were doing that I was playing around with Cloudflare and seeing if I have I'm able to get DS106 to work on the new server and it does I have to play around with the with the load balancing a bit and stuff but like I think DS106 now is technically running from ReclaimPress um and I haven't changed all the individual subdomains but just the wild car and that seems to work so yeah it's cool I mean I'm just going to keep on moving stuff and kind of getting in there but like I like it because I still default to the advanced interface because I'm so used to it now it comes second nature but like I like the idea of going in there and accessing them and seeing what's possible in the user interface that's far simpler because I think that isn't it that's the experience I want people to have you know and we didn't even talk about some of the or we didn't really do much here with some of now that I have it installed like what what are the other things that allows you to do right so you can the way it breaks down usage uh resource usage is cool although this is available in reclaim cloud you need to know where to go and file manager is here too which is nice I've actually this one is also kind of similar to the reclaim cloud one but I will say I really like that again it kind of shows you only what you need so when you go to favorites it's got hey here's some like you know common things that you may need in terms of like the configuration of engine X or the cron or PHP if you're doing some advanced stuff but also if you hit all it shows all your files this isn't even true though this is all of the WordPress files it's skipping all of the like specific server files that you should really never touch which I think is great I love that choice um so that's really cool um I love this edit domain name is just in here that's awesome the um it's interesting Taylor one of the things that I found fascinating is when I try to bind a C name in the traditional interface the advanced interface it automatically added an IP but when I did it in the WordPress simplified experience it didn't it didn't so there's something with the code interaction with the shared load balancer that's happening here I'm gonna find out and I want because I want to know how that works um there is a difference for sure uh the the other thing that's cool here I'm just now noticing this is it it looks it looks to read the WordPress version dynamically which is super cool right now in Reclaim Cloud you the best way to find out the version of WordPress that I found the fastest way is to just use the WPC Li or log in and like look at you know log into the WordPress site and look at um actually does WordPress even have that in this I'm not sure where I even know I think they do it's got to be somewhere in like settings probably but uh oh yeah down here the bottom right but I think that a lot of this this WordPress experience simplified dashboard is using the WordPress CLI for a lot of this sure sure but that's super cool that this updated right like that's not even as nice uh Installatron doesn't do that so like Installatron will just show you what it figures the last version of WordPress is so if you use Installatron to update WordPress it'll be correct if you used WordPress to update WordPress it won't be correct and it won't fix itself until you go in and uh have it sync the application attributes this is cool that this just automatically updated right um the plugins thing is awesome too right this is going to be a game changer for troubleshooting sites um the fact that you can just turn this on and I know turn this stuff on and off and I know you also mentioned that um that's interesting I probably should be actually um I'm now realizing too I have WP SuperCache that could be a situation that's problematic too because this was this site was being cached before um via WP SuperCache so I wonder that's also I wonder um anyway um the fact that you can do this here and the plugins are going to read like which ones are you know kind of like query monitor like which ones are having issues and have their own kind of um graph to give you a sense of you know some of the demands on it I haven't seen that yet that's coming um but that's pretty cool and the themes issue is coming too so it's got plugins but I also have a list of themes um as well but I think plugins become more crucial than themes in some way because you usually live by one theme whereas you can have many plugins yeah and the other thing that's nice in with themes is you can you can pretty easily um turn those on and off in the database you can just switch sorry turn them on and off you can just switch your theme in the database and while you technically can turn themes on and off in the database it's in a it's in like a plain text json format that's really difficult and tricky to edit you don't I don't really recommend folks do that so what we normally do is we tell people if you want to turn a plugin off go rename the folder in the file manager which is how we also tell people to do things on shared hosting and that's okay but this is so much nicer um so I will say I have a minute or two before I have to jump into another meeting but pilot brought up in the chat and I thought it's worth for a period in here and I think you've seen it six out of ten yeah yeah is a six out of ten migration you know yeah I forgot I would say it's a six out of ten migration for sure I think that's yeah that's definitely you are you are judging it you're judging emu emu migrations I failed on it failed me recently on the um above a Tuesday's migration not probably for legit reasons because that's such a messed up site but now you I think I you know maybe we have to go back to the drawing board well I think the thing here is I think emu migration is interesting for its use case which is but the idea of taking a site out of a multi site and moving it someplace else is yeah it sucks it's a horrible you can do it we have docs I know you've done it I've never actually done it but look it's one of those things where I look at the documentation and I go ooh you know so I love this as a tool to keep in mind for that I think for straightforward migrations I may keep looking we'll see but on the other hand this did this did mostly do the job I think I think with some messing around of my home page I could probably fix this because it's really just this home page that wasn't looking good the weird thing is it looks fine in the editor so I'm real confused about what's actually happening here he had the same issue so there may be something with caching or something there it may not be the same issue where his home page wasn't looking good yeah Brian Mathers like it was looking fine in the editor in the block editor but not in the thing so I don't know I have to use emu migration sorry no I migrated that okay all right there were still issues on the other side and a lot of them were cash related so you know all right cool well good stream thanks for joining me 6 out of 10 yep 6 out of I would say I think the stream was better than the migration I called the stream a 7 out of 10 stream stream the south was 7 yeah 10 out of 10 future score it's too early to give it a real score but I think we're excited about it alright Taylor thanks man alright see ya bye bye