 We received an email asking a very good question and I thought I would put this onto a video so that maybe other people can benefit from it as well. So Michael from the East Coast, I hope I'm not outing you too much. I think that's generic enough contacted us and said hey, I have a 300 BRC it's a savage brand rifle, and I live in the East Coast, but sometimes I shoot out west where they're wide open spaces. And so just wondering about a scope recommendation. So there are a lot of good answers to this it's kind of like you know what's a good car to buy. Well, you can't go wrong with a bunch of choices like they're going to be pros and cons. And same thing is true with scopes. So night force is a very popular brand. I don't have a night force, but they are very high quality, and a lot of people love them. Schmidt and Bender is a very high end scope. A lot of people really like those. I think that they charge a lot for what you get. You know there's kind of a point of diminishing returns and they have lowered their prices a bit over the last years, with all the competition. But I'm primarily going to talk about the brand that I am most familiar with, because we've purchased a lot of them over the years. And we do get a discount, like a partner affiliate type of discount because we're a shooting instruction business so we are getting a discount on these brands to be open about that. However, we choose them and we use them and even if we didn't get a discount, we would still use them. So there are a couple options for shooting long range that I'm going to toss out there. The first would be a vortex viper. And this is going to be somewhere in the 900 to $1,200 range, and you can either get them on. Amazon or optics planet or at a local store where whatever kind of shopping you prefer. I'm going to put a link down below to several of these using our Amazon affiliate link. So, if you click on that I'd love it, but if not that's fine too. So vortex viper. I like high magnification and I think their latest is five to 25 that's the PST generation to it's good they also have an XLR reticule scope so if you just search for vortex viper XLR. I like that scope as well. There's there's an option that some scopes have that has the illuminated red reticule. I've had a bunch of scopes with that and I tried it and I've never put a battery in since trying it and just realizing it doesn't really do much for me. So I wouldn't care about that part. Viper is kind of the least expensive I would go. I guess another option would be going with a completely different brand which would be arcan scopes. It's a decent job. There's still a Chinese scope so not not high quality, but a decent scope. So arcan would be the cheapest option so getting back into vortex brand viper would be the lowest vortex brand that I would suggest. I believe that the glasses made in Japan, and then they're assembled in China I believe. So that's a step up from everything being made and assembled in China. A step up would be their razor line. And that's what we love. We have quite a few of those on a number of different long range rifles, and it kind of goes to the couple sayings by once cry once. Another coach said you know my dad always told me, we're too poor to buy cheap stuff. So you're going to spend more you're going to be more in the $2,000 range so kind of double of the viper line, but you're going to get a way better quality. You're not going to have to send it in for repairs on their excellent warranty as frequently. The last better it's a crisper image, the clicks, the click value is better. So I think that that's a worthwhile thing if you're willing to put the money into it. There are a couple of things that are really important. I like high magnification but it's kind of up to you. If you're shooting at a mile, it's nice to be able to dial it up to 25 or 30 magnification, if there's not too much mirage coming up. And by the way, if any of the things I'm saying aren't making complete sense. There's a book that will describe a lot of these things to you. I'll put a link in the description also about long range and extreme long range shooting. And one of the things that's important before you go buy the scope is get first focal plane. It's called FFP. And there's, there's some good reasons behind it but just long story short, make sure the scope you get is FFP. The other big consideration is who are you going to be shooting with? You're going to have to decide between minutes of angle MOA and mill radian, MIL. And those are two measurement systems. And just like inches or centimeters, they're both the metric and the imperial system are both great ways to measure things. One's not better than the other. But the important part, getting back away from that example to mills or MOA, who are you going to be shooting with most of the time? And if the person with whom you're going to be shooting most of the time uses mill, get a mill scope. If the people with whom you're going to be shooting most of the time use MOA, get MOA. I happen to be an MOA person and I have trouble communicating when someone speaks MIL, mill language. But others are very familiar with that. And people with really high IQs can communicate in both. But you'll have to decide one or the other. So if it was me, I would get an MOA with a first focal plane reticule. I like as busy of a reticule as possible. Like it's called a Christmas tree reticle. And there's just all kinds of information on it. And it's good for measuring when you shoot something at 1800 yards, and you see the dust kick up a certain distance away, two minute, two and a half minutes away. You can kind of adjust and realize how far you're missing. If you just had a simple up and down line and left and right line, that simple duplex reticle doesn't give you enough precise information for your follow up shots. So I like busy reticles. I hope this has been helpful. And whatever you do, you're not going to go too wrong as long as you spend at least $1,000, and you get a first focal plane, and you contemplate what it is you're going to want as far as a mill or MOA. You'll do well. Now another tip is when you're buying your rings to put on the scope. Make sure that you get the correct size. Some scopes are 34 millimeters. Some are 30 millimeters. Others are different sizes. There's also a height that the ring is the center of the ring is above the top of the Picatinny rail that's on your rifle. Medium is a good place to start, but you might order it and find out you didn't get it right. Also, some manufacturers when they sell rings, they sell them one at a time. It's not a pair. So make sure you read carefully so you're not all excited getting ready to put it together and you realize you only have one ring instead of two. Another consideration is the rail on your gun. If you're going to be shooting extreme long range, then you're going to want more cant on your rail. And I like to have at least a 20 MOA rail. 40 MOA is even better, but those are harder to find. And your rifle might already have that built into it. Some scope mount systems have the rings connected and there's also the inclination at a 20 degree cant, not 20 degree, 20 MOA cant inclination. So that could be handy as well. And again, I'll leave a few links down below and hopefully this helps.