 I was like, oh cool, these guys seem really dedicated to their story, they're really creative, and they, you know, they have a whole team and they do a lot of stuff, and I respect this, I like it a lot. But then, I went and I found their other Patreon, and it was for the, like, porn version. The, like, canonical porn stories that happen with the same characters in the same thing, and I was like, oh, oh dear. I don't know, I guess I just don't respect it as much. Other soothing sounds of Monkey Jones. I'm scared, the Davoo! I got my standing mat ready. Ben Saint. I'm here to take a shit on all the pieces of garbage on the internet today. I can't wait, and the responsible one keeping us all on track, hopefully, the Hippocrate. No, that's not me at all, you got that wrong, that's the wrong description. Okay, what do you want to be then? Uh, gay. Okay, well, you're on the right track. And now you're probably thinking, but PCP, didn't you already do this topic before? They wouldn't remember what that viewer is. I'm glad you're paying attention. Well the answer is, welcome to Creators We Hate Part 2! Because today, the day of recording this today is International Podcast Day. This is a thing that apparently exists, Twitter told me so, and Twitter doesn't lie. So what better things to do on International Podcast Day than to revisit a topic we've already beaten to the ground and just accept our nature as human beings to just thrive on hatred and things that make us angry. So that's what we're doing today, more things that we hate. But before we start, another announcement that coincides with International Podcast Day is that we finally did it. And by we, I mean me, because no one else did it but me. I spent five grueling hours getting the PCP up and updated completely on iTunes and Google Play. Oh, yeah. Shit, for all of you fucking peasants who use an Android phone instead of an iPhone. So everyone who has been requesting that we put it on iTunes, go, you can now go and there it is. It's there. Is it there right now? It's there right now. Every single episode correctly formatted with description. It took way too long but I did it. I bit the bullet for the team and there it is. As someone who's never used iTunes and legitimately doesn't know, I want to ask this question for the sake of people who are maybe retarded like me. How do you find the PCP on iTunes? It's a huge pain in the ass. Basically what you have to do is first you have to install iTunes, which is like basically kneecapping your computer for life unless you're a dirty Mac user. But if you can get past that first step, if you install iTunes, definitely uncheck the automatic updates otherwise it'll never leave you alone. Okay. But you just go to the podcast section and there's a search field. You search for the procrastinators and it should pop right up. I've tried it multiple times. It has worked. It's the same thing on Google Play Music if you're on Android. You just go to the podcast section. You search for procrastinators and it pops right up along with some other shitty podcasts that we're going to kill someday. And yeah, that's how it works. It's pretty simple unless you're retarded, which I mean, some of you out there, I'm sorry, they're just going to have to figure it out. Consider the audience. Consider the audience we're talking to. I got to say I never- Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. I never thought I'd see the day. I never thought I'd see this happen. Well, but here we are. Hey, folks, I pulled up the Urban Dictionary definition of hatred. So let's take a look at that. All right. Urban Dictionary defines hatred as the trademark sign of love between two cynics often accompanied by sarcasm and clever insults. What the fuck? So true. That sounds like me and Ben in a nutshell. Yeah, sure. Yeah, like, geez, maybe I've learned something about myself today. Sounds like a homestuck to me. I don't know about that. Yeah. Hussy Rosette. Who has somebody who they really fucking hate? I have someone. It's me. It's me. All right. So my creator that I hate is, he's a pretty big one. He created the universe. It's God. It's God. Where do we go from here? Did Young Sheldon just walk into the room? And it's probably not what you think, but because I see God as like the John Tron of deities. You know, he started off all right. You know, he created the universe and he had some pretty good content in like, you know, the early... He was really funny on Game Bronx. Really funny on Game Bronx. Back when he was indie. Yeah, back when he was indie. He was, you know, just doing all that stuff. But then he sort of fucked off after the Bible and he's never been... He's really done nothing. He really... There's been no miracles. There's been no new stories. He really... He's just sort of fallen off the face of the earth and now he works at Bed Bath and beyond, you know. He pulled a stoney one. I was about to say the same thing. He promised this big like second coming of his son and fucking up everything. Yeah. And he just collected all the followers and their money. He's just... He hasn't done shit with it. What a dick. Yeah, we've all been funding him this whole time. God damn. But he's just not... And he's not even transparent about it. I don't know how he's gaining more followers despite not doing shit. Not a single update on Twitter or anything. Man. Do you know how many views the Bible has? It's unbelievable. Insane. The ad revenue must be... Holy shit. Here's the real question though. The Bible does Google let it be monetized. There's rape. There's murder. There's tons of things in there that really shouldn't be advertiser friendly, but seems like it gets a free pass for his history of creating everything. What a dick. Yeah, it's nepotism. Yeah, I don't... Can't say I'm a fan. That just makes me hate it more, you know? It's nepotism and it's the appeal to authority. The divine authority. God. Who can you even say? So, yeah, that was... Yeah, that's it. That's all I got. I couldn't think of anything. You wanted to do this episode and you're like, I got this great yucker for the beginning, baby. They're gonna be chucking and yucking all night. Maybe I was just gonna duck out for the rest of it. You're smart. Collecting is check, he's good to go. Well, I've got a YouTube creator that I think... Yeah, let's bring it back down to the realm of mortal men who we can actually really sink our teeth into. Figuratively and literally. It's a recent event that I think should piss all of us off equally. Maybe not the Davos and the Bents, but I think the rest of us will have a bone to pick. Now, it's no secret that I hate great Aunderay, but typically it's just... In the past it was because I didn't respect his content and I thought it was unfunny and lazy, but boy howdy, he made a new update video and he said one of the dumbest things I think I've ever heard and it made me go from distaste to actual pure hatred. His excuse for not making videos for months was that he was depressed and at one point in the video he says, it is literally impossible to be funny when you're depressed and he said that as if it was a statement of fact and that just got my blood boiling so much. Instantly you think of Robin Williams, Jim Carrey, Tom Oliver, Hippocrite, Digi Bro, all these funny guys who are cripplingly depressed. So how can he put that statement out there and not expect massive ridicule and hatred? I guess when you have all that ad revenue you just don't have to dig deep and actually try to be creative under pressure. You just coast for a while. You see, I don't think the problem was that he was depressed. I think the problem is just that he can't be funny in general so he needed the excuse. It's literally impossible to be funny under any circumstances let alone these ones. It doesn't matter how he's feeling. The very first few great Aunderay videos I stumbled upon before he was like a big drama guy and I thought, you know, that's kind of funny. It's like sort of observational humor. But since he's like, he's just, I've stopped following him since and he's like, he's just stopped being funny. He stopped being creative or interesting. I wonder whether those initial videos were just copied from something. Like sketches that he's seen. I've heard he's a big douchebag. It doesn't surprise me at all. I don't really know much about him. I mean, I don't know. I didn't watch a lot of Great Aunderay, but it felt like a formula that wasn't going to last and I guess that was correct because here we go and he's well-spuddery now. It was artificially extended by jumping on the drama train. He's kept the lifeblood pumping with that development. The reason why I bring this up is not because we don't need to dissect his content because we can all agree, okay, maybe it was better back in the day, but it went to shit. But just this one specific thing about depression is what really put him on my radar of hatred. That's all I wanted to say about it. I hadn't heard that. He said that. I think you maybe tweeted it or something. Because I was thinking about that when you tweeted it and I was like, hmm, there's probably something to that in like there's a certain type of humor that you can't do when you're depressed. I didn't look into it at all. I don't think he did either, but it's not impossible. It's just like when you're depressed, everything's more difficult. Well, I think most of, like all the comedians that I have as my favorites and all the ones I respect are very open about being depressed. You have like, I mean, Greg Geraldo back the day before he fucking died from overdose. Louis C.K., George Carlin, like all these guys were pretty fucking depressed. And I think it fueled their humor and made them funnier. Because it gives you, I think, a more unique and more comedic outlook on life when you wish you were dead. Yeah, it's weird. It's like he, I think it's like the impossible part. Like it was impossible for him to make content because he was sad. Doesn't work. You can't just say that and have it be okay. You're just, it's just a pity party he's trying to throw. Yeah. And he's trying to write off all comedians as, oh, I bet they're all, you know, mentally fine just because I personally could not make content because I was too lazy and depressed. That's all I got to say about Great A Underrated to move on if somebody else says one. So, you know, beginning this podcast, I'm like, geez, I mean, the only one I really have to think of immediately is I Hate Everything. But we all talk about him a lot. Really my main problem with IHE is he has obnoxious editing, but in a way that I feel like no one else would agree with me. I don't know how to make that whole rant coherent. But I was just scrolling around YouTube trending to look for other people and I was reminded of someone. So immediately, anyone who does parody songs, song parodies, but where like the parody is that it's like a review of the song that they're parodying. So I believe the most prominent example is the Key of Awesome, where like they do song parodies, but like it's not like its own idea, it's not like a weird out parody where like they take the lyrics and turn it into like a different song with a different meaning with a different point. It's like a song about the song that it's a parody of and it always makes like some snarky points. I don't think I've ever seen something like that, but I can try to imagine. Is it like they're just replacing words and saying it in like a slightly snarky sarcastic way? Fucking obnoxious is what they are. Because it's like, it's like, God, they have one that's a parody of Bad Romance, right? And it's just they're like, but they change the melody. It's supposed to be Bad Romance, but I guess for copyright reasons they change the song. I'm like, well, what's the fucking point? I guess it's supposed to be a stylistic parody of Lady Gaga, but it's obviously trying to be Bad Romance. This was several years ago when that song was new. But then like, it's not just Lady Gaga. Lady Gaga is in the song. It's a woman pretending to be Lady Gaga. Again, it's a parody, but it's the same fucking thing. What the fuck? I know, but then there's also a guy. What a bizarre fucking... I know. I know. I know. But like then there's also, I believe the key of awesome is mostly two people, a guy and a girl. So there's also Lord Gaga, right? What the fuck is the point of that? So she's like, I'm Lady Gaga. And this guy comes in like, I'm Lord Gaga. I'm like, okay, how is that a fucking parody of Lady Gaga? The only way I could imagine it would be is if there was a twist that they're both the same person because Lady Gaga has a dick, because that's a joke from 2009, right? I don't fucking know. It's not played up that way. Is the joke supposed to be that they're saying I'm Lady Gaga? Something like that, but then like, no, they play... Hey guys, look, isn't Lady Gaga so much like this? Yeah, exactly. I think it's not even that. I think that the joke is that her name is Lady Gaga and the male equivalent of a lady is Lord. Yeah, not terribly insightful. And like also the music video, the music video is like filmed in like some random fuck off hallway that's like all white, because obviously they want it to look like bad romance. The music video where it's all white, but like they obviously didn't have the budget to make a studio look all white. So it's some hallway and like some factory or something that they were able to find and get permission to film in. So it's really fucking awkward because it's all filmed in a goddamn hallway just to get it to look white. And it was constantly distracting on top of the entire fucking premise of it just being weird. And they have lyrics like, doing weird stuff, you know, I believe there's literally lyric making up this shit as we go along. Parodying, you're just telling us what Lady Gaga's style is. Okay, I gotcha. And like they have like another parody of like one other One Direction songs and like as it goes on it's like about how certain people react to the song. And then it also talks about how the One Direction song is similar to the Backstreet Boys' famous song and so they're like, oh yeah, you didn't think we'd notice that, did you? But like this is woven into the lyrics of the parody. It's so fucking confusing. The Key of Awesome is a parody of Katy Perry. And it's like the whole premise of the song is about the fact that Katy Perry is trying to make a song but then Kanye West is in the song and so like Katy Perry is singing to the melody of E.T. Kanye, why are you here? This is my fucking song. Don't intrude on it. Something like that, right? And like by the end they talk about how like Katy Perry just made the song for the check or something or something fucking like that. I'm just like, what's the goddamn point of these things? I hate them. I hate it when there's like a parody but like there's not like a strong premise to it. It just makes me cringe. It's what I call hashtag conceptual cringe. It sounds like they're putting in like generic oh, celebrities just do things for the money. Like that's the joke. Yeah. It's not got anything to do with Katy Perry. That mailman is delivering the mail just for the money. What a fucking hat. Yeah, I find it to be like the worst parody people. Like, you know, at least fucking Raka Raka Ali's got like his own like personality and funny jokes that I like and he talks about 9-11. Yeah, Raka's funny. Yeah, but like, yeah. Worst fucking parody people. It's really the, it's just the natural byproduct of any medium or industry getting saturated with fucking cash. People just jump in with no ideas but plenty of fucking budget and props. You know what I mean? There's just, I remember one time seeing like it was fucking, what's the one, what's the one Republic song about shooting stars and nowhere counting money and shit? What's that one? Fucking stars. That fucking Republic song. You would not believe your eyes. Yeah, something like that. Right. Yeah, of course. Yeah, fucking obviously. Yeah, definitely. You got it, monkey. But like, okay, it's that song. It's that song. Like the lyrics are all the same but it's performed by Disney villains. But like some of the lyrics have changed. So it's like, it's like a live action interpretation of some of the Disney villains in a music video and they're singing it. And even King Scar is in there. Just a guy dressed like a fucking King Scar. And I'm like, okay. Sounds like a cornucopia of terrible ideas. Yeah, and I'm like coalescing into cringe. Yeah, and it's like super produced. Probably a few thousand dollars at least. Probably like a studio that, you know, is actively producing shit. But they're like, okay, boy, do we're gonna make this time. Absolutely gross. Yeah, there's just like, there's no strong like premise there. So yeah, I hate those people. And of course they get like millions of views and are super successful and you wanted to shoot them. Oh God, one last thing. I remember like fucking, there's like, I remember my girlfriend playing this, this like combination, a medley of fucking Maroon 5. Just a Maroon 5 medley made by some generic YouTubers with like a full music video and everything. You know, it like is mostly centered around that fucking whistle jingle from moves like Jagger. And I was just disgusted by the thought that people care that much about Maroon 5. This reminds me of, I think his name is Brock Baker. Does that sound familiar to anybody? Not I. So he does a similar thing, but like he'll sing a popular song but in the voice of like a hundred different characters and he's a really talented voice actor. And I think it's like the right version of what you're describing because it's just like him standing in front of the microphone and then each lyric is a different performance, like a different character. So it's impressive and it's not like overly produced or like it's not trying to be a parody. So I think that's, if you're gonna do something dumb like this that would be the good way to do it but what you're describing sounds horrifying. Bad. Yeah. Alright, I have somebody who just, who's a brand new creator that's fucking horrible and I hate it and I'm disgusted that it exists. Susan Wasiski, I don't know how to pronounce her last name, she is the CEO of YouTube and she started a YouTube channel last week. Oh no. Oh my god. And it's probably the most disgusting thing ever because it's like, the video's like titled something dumb like how do I make videos on YouTube or something. It's like, I asked a bunch of my friends and so it's just like her saying like I'm gonna start making videos and then it's like these are the people who are gonna help me and then it's all these like, it's like the rock and like a bunch of other celebrities talking about like oh yeah we're YouTubers, we know how to make YouTube videos and then there's like Instagram models and Viners all giving her advice and it's super just like corporately produced and disgusting and the most horrific thing of all time and it's just like everybody hates you right now and this is the time you decide to try and like reach out. have a public facing like I'm just gonna sit here and have fun guys it's like no get your shit back in the office and fix all the things that suck balls right now. What is wrong with you? Tom this is an interesting scenario because you've seen it that none of us have I think we should all try to guess what advice she got and you can confirm if we get it right because I'm guessing I'm guessing somebody tells her just be yourself on camera and the audience will follow through. Absolutely that is one of the points. Anybody else got to guess? Get a good microphone probably. I don't think that was mentioned but you know real advice you'd actually should use not much though. I know what they said they said go to the use the YouTube creator help tools in YouTube and you know they're not shit use them. I don't remember that being there oh they probably said upload constantly they probably said upload as much as you possibly can there was like four people who said you gotta be consistent consistency is the most important thing just vomit out that content every day and anything will do this is the thing that I'm gonna be really really interested to see is because I have ad block but like is this video monetized and if it is oh of course fuck you because like there's only so many ads to play on videos and so the CEO is gonna take ad revenue from the people who cite she owns like the food just posted the like counter and it's 7000 thumbs up 33000 thumbs down as it should be that just tells me 7000 people are either working for Google or need to be executed immediately or they're 12 years old I have to like from now on in my life when I see something stupid on YouTube either like a high like or dislike bars or stupid comments I just always assume it's a 12 year old because what else could it be I can't imagine a real have a long key those 12 year olds are the ones who are watching your diary of a wimpy kid video and making a famous that's where I'm seeing all these likes and comments at dude fucking have the top voted comments on that video or is this video demonetized too I mean it's funny once guys but don't don't beat a dead horse that would be that would be fucking hilarious if her video got caught as like not suitable for oh man but she would never admit it I hope everyone flags the video and she just strike on her account wouldn't be fucking surprised if shitloads of people like try to flag the video but obviously like they're just gonna unflag you know YouTube won't like automatically she has she has CEO shields and just bounces off like she's got mod power she can no click her channel just gets no no strikes at all it's whatever yeah so I hate her because it's just horrible terrible and disgusting and I can't believe I'm gonna keep watching and see what other cringy shit that's there and just watch this site continue to fall apart how many subs does she have right now I didn't even look I hope zero it's gotta be at least 40 you never know the board of directors is all following well I'll go am I last am I the last one yeah we could probably go around another time this is gonna be a very short part we'd keep going until we fall asleep we got a channel more hate than that I mean come on well I got a general one it's not about anyone specific that's fine we can all jump in then go what I just in general the thing that makes me hate anyone is just if they're it's just if they're overappreciated even if I like what they do then like if I see that they get more appreciation for it than I feel they deserve I hate them so just anybody that violates your your personal sense of such such beloved content creators such as Digi Bro best guy ever you have two absolute hacks and I don't I don't even think Digi would disagree he's said before that he thinks it's weird that he makes more money than like animators that make anime so I don't know but they're they're small they're small fry they're small fish in this pond we're talking talk about someone like Jim Sterling who I like and like I like his content but he makes like he makes like 12 like $12,000 a month on Patreon for like I think he's been stuck at like $11,000 since forever I think it's like I know I know it's a pretty decent place to be fucking stuck yeah I wish I was stuck there I mean that's how much I make in a year working full time so I see something like that I see something like that and like the goodwill that I have because I like the things he has to say just drains away and it's left with nothing but resentment in its place just take some solace Ben and the fact that he's gonna be dead in like six months that's the way he's going good oh is that true no but I mean well it could be I mean yeah at first I was his lifestyle is clearly not not designed for longevity let's put it that way he'll be crushed under the weight of himself is he a big fat he's like he's like 300 something yeah he's a big boy he's enormous and he's he's a very you've never you've never seen a Jim Sterling video the Jim position I only follow like while you're ripping off H3H like I don't fucking watch that I don't even know what it is but I have never watched the video so stop fucking saying I rip off all this shit you're definitely doing the right thing there's just too much shit and it takes away from time like I'm gonna go watch Fargo season 3 I'm not gonna watch fucking H3H3 productions you know we could we could all learn something from this attitude just so we have to follow everybody another example that girl on Patreon who does the art Sakimi-Chan Sakimi-Chan like yeah her art's real nice her art's real nice and everything is it worth like fucking $50,000 a month of course not get fucked fuck right off it's just like all she does is she does the same like busts of popular animation characters and then behind the Patreon is them without a shirt on or with tits hanging out and you have to pay for that and that's how you get $50,000 a month and I think I think she offers like you know you get to see the process and you see like the sketches and like you maybe you can see videos of her drawing and stuff so it's like it's kind of like disguise it's kind of like sort of educational like ooh learn how she does it but like it's also like a cam girl where the tits you're seeing are not hers installed on her body but drawn by her hand which is just as hot oh there was that there was that girl there was that girl who I don't know what her name was but she was like some not particularly well known artist some financial trouble something and the game grumps like tweeted her around and like like help this girl and they did and now she's got like a whole bunch of money on Patreon and she and she kind of like started doing like some fucking quote like erotic photography on the side she's like this chubby girl who like postscraw pics and yeah all the time so that's that's the monster that's the kind of monster that's created by situations like this push that we all need to start making a million dollars um uh soon I'm I'm calling the police I'm I'm I'm waiting for I'm waiting for his next stream and I'm gonna swat him we're gonna swat him you know come to think of it in general I often find myself being find myself with a lot of distaste for like people on the internet who like do art but like disconnected drawings there's not like something big old webcomic that's actually good and stuff you know what I mean like something that annoyed related to that people that people that have like OCs and they'll draw like they'll draw like fan art of their own OCs and they'll call them OCs and then but there's no story to go with it and it's like what's the point in general people who like just do a lot of pictures like if I really like your art and like your attitude and I can be a fan of you you know there's a lot of them but I just feel like when they start becoming like personalities and like becoming famous and stuff it's like are you really doing enough to justify that are you like weaving an incredible artistic experience I can change my life to justify you being someone who is revered you know what I mean I don't know like you know going wait can we switch topics to another person or are you not done yet been no not cool so talking about art people right I was looking at the trending tab I'm not familiar it's the style of video where it's basically just any other kind of YouTube video where like you just talk about a fucking thing right you just talk about a thing any topic at all but it's like drawn right so it's basically like desperate technique to justify my art major technique number 375 right it's like well I gotta make YouTube videos but obviously animation isn't fucking gonna ever work on YouTube again so instead you just sort of have like a slide show of art to like tell us to like make a point right or like have a rant but instead of like Google images it's like you fucking tablet all of your images right and instead of just having an OC that stands perfectly still that you cut to you actually kind of sort of animate the OC right so like I've seen some of those things that they're so like banal and like and then this is the first crush I ever had on a girl cartoon character that's why you clicked on the videos it's like a vlog but instead of being a vlog they just kind of usually draw a bunch of stuff this is what happened in my life yeah I don't oh but it's so relatable guys it's so relatable things like that I just don't understand how it even achieves critical mass like that right I guess something 10 generally related to that is like people like owl turds and like the four panel so relatable comics yeah and how those just blow up everywhere other ones out it's really just because a lot of people who consume that stuff are like teenagers and they just want somebody to say I know what you're feeling because you know parents don't do that I guess it's young people who haven't heard it before the thing that I've always found interesting about people who make content like that is like how can that feel satisfying you know because when you think about it the people who like that content they have no they don't care so when they like your work they're just it's just an ego trip like it's just like they just see themselves in the work and that's why they this is me but like the artist and the content itself is completely substitutable with anything else they would find like you're not you're not building anything for yourself the minute you stop doing that no one's going to care anymore and it just feels like such a fragile thing to build I think people just see all this praise and think oh they love me and they'll feel fine with that well none of that was what I had in mind but of course I guess it's all true but okay so the odd ones out specifically I posted an image of like the O.C. for that channel in the chat it's like this big tubby white and by white I mean like actual white guy with big old mouth mouth red pants and he presents himself you know the characters all like I'm a cutesy you know I get that kind of fucking ego thing right but like the guy who voices him you know the real guy does not convince me that he's like a lovable tubbable guy right I heard about him during the fucking cool cat controversy because it wasn't just I hate everything who got his videos fucked with this guy also did a cool cat review now like the I hate everything review of cool cat I have not seen the odd ones out review of cool cat I never bothered to see them but one thing that was really telling to me during Derek's controversy is that you know he didn't delete every fucking video review of his channel he didn't ever go after YMS directly as far as I know I mean he did like cut ties with him eventually but like he didn't want to take down YMS's review but he did want to take down the other guys's reviews even though YMS's review was pretty cutting but it was respectful and based on what I could tell it seemed like I hate everything and odd ones out were not being very respectful to Derek Savage or whatever this fucking odd ones out's review videos talking about the controversy with Derek that he had and he showed a bunch of fucking emails that he and Derek had exchanged with one another but like it felt like a weird sort of like leak it felt like he shouldn't have been showing this on the internet it felt like a violation of privacy and also like the way he wrote some of the emails just seemed like he was being a dick to Derek and I'm like yeah like I know legally the laws on your who the fuck would publish this fucking weird and I think he had like certain reasons or justifications but it was fucking weird he was not convincing me that regardless of his legal justifications did he have like the the etiquette justifications right and so I clicked on another one of his videos where he talked about his time working at Subway right now immediately you know every Subway employee I've ever met was a dick to me oh no I know where this is going but like he talked about like it was a shitty job and he had like various things and like he thoroughly failed to convince me that like all these different little stories he was talking about and complaining about weren't just him being bad at working at Subway like it's always interesting to me when like someone tells me their story about people who pissed them off people who fucked them over and yet even though I only heard it from their perspective just by gathering the information I disagree with their their own conclusions that they weren't in the wrong like he just made himself sound like a really shitty Subway employee but he never like really indicated as much right just by based on the information he gave me right he did not he did not garner any sympathy from me and yet it was all presented with this big old tubby blobby white Pillsbury Doughboy face and I'm like you're fucking disingenuous you're just again it really comes obviously I'm probably wrong but it comes off to me like oh shit I have an art major got lots of bills to pay can't make animation for a living you're not wrong because I've been to Subway several times and I've never seen a good Subway employee because yeah I know it's because it's a shitty job but also like seriously there's a fucking thing on the menu right it's a fully made sandwich with all these different ingredients all listed all in the picture I point to it saying I want that and they go okay what do you want on it right and I don't know when the message is gonna get up to fucking Subway corporate fat fucking skull when we point at the image just give us the fucking image and we'll customize it if we choose why do we have to come up with how to every time right so yeah that's the cup that's the best when I tell my mom to make the sandwich she just fucking does it I don't go to the kitchen and point out every little thing I want on it corporate cuckoldry that the odd ones out participated in and so I don't I don't yeah I don't sympathize with him but he presents himself a sympathetic you know I fucking get it but yeah annoying yeah I have I mean it's really I was thinking about like who do I hate I don't really hate like many people I hate like practices that people do and it's really always based around like Ben was saying undeserved stuff like if somebody just sucks and they're they're getting no views then I'm like well I mean all's right with the world the market has spoken correctly wait so wait time out Tom so are you do you mean to say that sometimes the market can speak incorrectly according to my own subjective interpretation yes that is but it's the invisible hand it's just like whatever happens is the correct thing for the market I mean are you saying you've never seen have you never seen something monkey that's been like real popular and you're like I can't believe people like this I hate it I wish it would go away and I can see why I personally don't like it but like I said earlier all every YouTuber is 12 years old so I can see why it is popular well that's my whole thing like why I wouldn't like it like at the end of the day people are gonna like what they want to like and I'm just saying in my personal opinion they're retarded and so when when my personal subjective opinion on what the way things should be and life itself syncs up there's a quite little moment of zen where I'm like yes things are okay here guys maybe you shouldn't say that the market is wrong you should be like well I guess I disagree with the market I was talking about my perspective what the market would be not the market I'm seeing a fucking little outside my window I gotta go check it out I don't like it I'm sorry well it's like let me give another example it's like when someone when someone gets popular like by accident or like by random chance or just because they happen to be in the right place at the right time and thereafter they continue to make content that is just like what anyone else makes but because they struck at the right time while the iron was hot their videos can succeed their art can succeed or whatever whatever it is where other peoples wouldn't even at the same level of quality you know what I have the guy I hate the guy who changed or created the YouTube algorithm I hate that guy whoever he is he created that programmer it's probably Nate fucking piece of shit he made it so that he made it so that people can just succeed by you know random chance and then they don't need to be good and everything sucks and YouTube sucks he changes so you can only be popular if you make videos about gals or videos about diary of a wimpy kid yeah that's pretty much and spider-man yeah fucking spider-man and elsa too speaking of Nate can I say that I hate Nate he's one of the creators I hate because I already I already called him out as one but yeah please go on not even do you think he's gonna listen to this episode of course nothing to do nothing even to do with his content his content's fine but can I just say the man the man I have a bone to pick with the fact that a couple years ago when we went to a convention and I owed him money and I had to pay him back he was like you're short 80 cents you had to pay pal of 80 cents oh my god who had to load a fucking shit oh my god that's a little pathetic stingiest bastard ever and he's not here so I can say it Nate that was fucking gay I was not cool with that at all that's a little weird it was it was it was disgusting yeah but you know it's only 20% 20 cents you know it's like almost a whole dollar that's like a big money that was like like two packs of gum I could have enjoyed and I'll never have now two whole packs of gum but I don't like I don't care about him I care about me and then Paypal probably took out 60 cents out of the 80 cents that you sent him probably I do see but it was the gesture yeah I do see wanting to get back the money you're owed but when it's such a little amount and it's one of your friends that's when it sorta gets weird and the thing was this was like like back in like I think it was like 2014 so we had only known each other for a little while so I was just like oh huh I'm gonna whip even stronger I know I'll bitch about 80 cents sounds like him I'm back so yeah I had to get that off my chest it's been burning in my soul you can't say that on an episode when he's here no I couldn't why did it beat you up now that he's not here I can take pot shots and not have to feel guilty about it until later oh hey guys I got some good news Digi bro you might have heard of this guy Digi bro he told us in the chat that he is like 16 episodes behind on the PCP so we can talk shit about him too and he'll never know yeah but the hammer won't come down for another several weeks yeah we can avoid punishment his wrathful vengeance yeah we're in the eye of the storm right now we can do whatever we want you know what'll be funny though is we can tell the audience like go tweet this thing at Digi and nobody explained what's going on and then he's not gonna have any idea where it's coming from I'm gonna make everybody tweet at Digi right now something stupid like pictures of like cantaloupe or something like everybody just tweet Digi a picture of a cantaloupe and then we'll see what happens the hot new meme oh yeah that's a good one something that defies and don't and no one tell him why nobody explained it I fucking mean it if you fucking tell Digi what's going on I'm gonna come to your house and I'm gonna give you a harmonious bang what I want so much you're blocked on the PCP Twitter no second chance you're done yeah this is serious we're in charge we're in charge of the ship now and there's new rules in town what I want to see what I want to see is Digi just coming into the chat one day and saying what the hell is up with all these cantaloupes and for us to just type LOL in caps see folks if you let this happen I will send this screenshot of us all laughing at Digi on the PCP Twitter page looking forward to that what a good meme oh man we're so funny on the PCP podcast legendary we like to have jokes we like to we just don't do it very often we like building that audience involvement you know building some rapport keep your eye out for the PCP cantaloupe t-shirt up for sale eventually and in the corner the t-shirt Digi's like sitting there with a confused face like what's this cantaloupe hey guys Hippo is that the end of your your thing um well I was gonna go a bit more go ahead I got a good one but I'm gonna wait for it okay so I was like yeah people who undeservedly get views and stuff it's always annoying when they're just they're not very good and they don't try very hard and they get everything they could ever possibly need but what I you know what I hate specifically is I had I had something in my head I'm just trying to just trying to think of it as I say these words that like mean nothing and I really shouldn't have continued to say what I just should have just just monkey you go I really hate people who like don't think about what they're gonna say before they say it and then they just start speaking bullshit I thought I could remember it in the turn God Tom is ruthless tonight just tearing everybody to shred I'm drunk on power now that Nate's not here I'll I'll kill you guys here's the worst type of content creator on the internet again like it's like a broad category people who live stream video games with their girlfriends Oh God the absolute shame disgusting I never watched anything like that but just the description alone sounds mortifying that's all I got to say like does anybody want to add to this like Daveau Ben Tom just don't do it I got a thing I mean with I hate with such a practice the only reason a woman should be on a live stream is coming to bring you a sandwich other than that not from Subway though those fuckers fuck that they probably made it wrong but that I'll she pointed in a picture you didn't understand what was going on I will say that it doesn't matter if the person is funny right but here's a thing I hate the most of all is Mike and Ryan on Cinemastica Oh my God fucking yes I hate it it's the same principle as bringing your girlfriend on because it's like because you know not all girlfriends are like perfect for YouTube if you're a YouTuber you just you don't look for people who are good on camera if you're a YouTuber that's just not exactly how it works really so you know if you have your girlfriend on it's because they they got to be in this spotlight because they fucked someone and basically it's the same thing with Mike and Ryan this guy I don't say he's fucking I think Ryan did fuck Mike but this Ryan guy is so boring and Mike is not as funny as James right and they have a show and they keep doing it over and over again why is he there killing because Mike Mike starts off as the sort of unfunny sidekick to James and then we make him the main guy and then give him an even unfunnier sidekick it's like it's two degrees of unfunny sidekick that's been forced upon us yeah because like you know I unsubbed Cinemastiker I was like phasing in and out of being subbed to Cinemastiker for a couple of years like around 2013 or so but I've officially unsubbed it and stayed unsubbed it's just like I'll watch the A.B.G. in episodes when I feel like it maybe I'll watch a couple other James centric videos when I feel like it right but because I'm not subbed I don't feel the pressure to get back to it really what it is is the whole Cinemastiker wagon just couldn't keep its real it just kind of got fucked James just doesn't do constant uploads and he needed to like get some other like shitty people to attach on to himself to like to like pump out more content you know like he sort of treated the monster madness where he did one review every day for all of October which he came up with in 2007 he sort of treated that like a big special thing that he literally said takes all year to work on so for him doing consistent content even if it's short videos doesn't work so that's what has fucked his channel right he started around 2012 when he first went off to film the AVGN movie and he sort of gave the channel keys over to Mike during that time and Mike made some of his own videos and this was when Mike finally kind of stepped into the spotlight really up to that point all Mike had done was play like special characters in certain AVGN episodes in which he was really funny and he also drew AVGN title cards so like he was like this guy in the background behind the curtain who helped a lot but in the modern YouTube age it's like get as many videos on as many days the calendar with as much run time as possible so James has exhausted all the fucking people he knows and yeah it sucks it's the equivalent I've never watched the Ryan videos because as soon as I look at them I'm like well this guy is obviously never going to say anything interesting ever yeah whenever I accidentally click on one like I'm like oh wait that's Ryan immediately backspace like I've never seen a single second of one video to say wait this is like where I discovered that I hate this idea right and ever since then right and like honestly equivalent of having like Game Grumps be exclusively Barry and some other guy that we've never heard of that's very funny here's the thing right I think I'm trying to think of like the least funny Game Grumps if it was like Susie and Holly only I wouldn't want to watch it yeah here's the thing right is like that's good I think the worst thing and I'm going to talk about out of my ass at least slightly because I'm like seven episodes of AVG and behind which is to say like a year or two behind but like I honestly feel as though all that extra content dilutes the AVG in series in a number of ways first of all the set originally the nerd room felt like an area in a show it felt like this sort of magical property that was put together through the force of storytelling because that's how it was presented but once it's used for like play vlogs and all sorts of let's plays and other things it just feels like this guy's room it breaks down the barrier it makes it less of a character it's like oh no this is pretty much all just really me just just shooting around in my room after all right well I mean they don't shoot in that room really that much like they've done a couple okay well they've done a few let's plays and Mike and Ryan is usually just in a white room okay well I remember originally it wasn't like that maybe in Ryan's house but like also like James like the nerd as a character like the whole fucking character thing does not work anymore I mean it still works on ABJN just not as well because everyone knows because you see him being himself so much right you see like for example imagine if Mr. Betung did shitloads of vlogs and let's plays his whole like persona that he puts on in his actual videos that he makes every like couple of months or handful once or twice a year wouldn't work as well because you know this guy way too well like you know the Mr. Plinkett series has to really bend over backwards to keep like building up the illusion of the character by like being really extensively written having a totally different voice from what Soclasa actually sounds like and shit you know what I mean like they have to like really do so much to keep justifying the character and it works fine but with James versus the nerd there's not that much difference it's more like the nerd is just sort of certain cartoony voices James naturally does just all the time rather than some of the time and it's just like he's wearing a white shirt instead of any random dark shirt right I think actually James probably goes out of his way to wear dark shirts to make himself not look like the nerd otherwise he looks to say exact fucking same and like the whole format is just pointless you see people like like Digi and a lot of us who originally just made like regular sized videos before the whole modern YouTube era kind of got like officiated and they would just do regular videos and the occasional podcast but once Digi started doing vlogs constantly he changed the nature of his main channel content to reflect the fact that like the way that you absorb his narrative is different now and like the ABGN format is just kind of dated for that reason and like you know there's a part of me that wants to say well James would be able to keep his head above water and make plenty of money without falling in line with the modern YouTube format just by doing a Patreon but he's got a wife and kid and probably still debt to deal with after that movie I think ABGN should start wearing a hat because seeing the nerd balding is dis discerning to me Oh I want to see that happen he he's project I mean like for example there have been little tiny hints or like jokes rather of the idea that the nerd show is going to be around for a long fucking time and James is going to get really old like one time he pulls off some games already happened right yeah yeah like there's one time where he's pulling out of a company and they're like now this company also made this game called raid 2020 maybe I'll review that game in the year 2020 at the time I laughed right now I'm like oh he's really going to do that you know his fans aren't going to let him forget that shit he actually who would have ever thought he'd still be going right this was back when we didn't realize that YouTubers just never fucking died and never stopped and now we can see we can see through the veil right James actually said years ago that he's like I'm never going to stop doing AVG and even if it's only one a year because it means so much to me and I'm like I like that because I want the show to continue forever but like he even has like a Christmas special episode from 2007 where he like he goes through the fucking Christmas Carol so he sees his future self and it's like him with like a white wig and a big white beard called it and so he like plays boogie and like monkey ball and I'm like dude if James gets to be like his fucking 60s and he decides like you know what I'm going to actually be that version of the character I'm going to grow a beard and be like a really fucking old nerd you know yeah I think he'll I'd still watch it he will I don't think it's and like look the show is still good the show is not a wash he actually does update the character like he updates the way he feels like the the style of anger that he portrays in the videos has evolved tons of times so the show is going to last forever it's never going to get shit IMAjo it's just the modern format that he has to fit himself through it's just kind of unfortunate that's that's the real worst thing ever is YouTube as a platform just becoming more sterile and cookie cutter and not allowing flexibility for anything I've I fucking I fucking got it I've got something that I hate it's another broad category and this is way fucking broad this is like literally everyone is guilty of this in some way oh no and it's creators whose art is basically just about themselves or about their art yep everyone oh yeah yeah like people eat that shit up like when a like when a story gets like when a piece of work gets real cheeky and like breaks the fourth wall and ooh references this thing or says something a fan base would get is little not people eat that shit up but like overuse go overboard on that shit even a little bit and it's like what the fuck am I watching like this this thing that I'm consuming is just jerking itself off about how important it is and why do I even bother you know and when someone like yeah like like drama channels like Grady Under A or like I don't know fucking so many people like like they make YouTube videos like vloggers they're making YouTube videos about the fact they make YouTube videos that's the story that I'm watching and it's like oh my fucking god why the fuck do we need this Ben you have no fucking idea I have that I have that like epiphany like weekly if not daily of like because sometimes sometimes it's true why do you need to have it more than once you just need to have it once just a thought I don't know what the word doesn't go anywhere that moment of morbid nihilism I guess because it's like I often am triggered by it by something like something that's like a lot of rap which is just like I'm a rapper and I'm rapping and people think about this about my rap and this is what their reaction to my rap is and this is my response to that reaction it's like damn like the whole point of rapping to talk about the rap Hey that did you song is really good yeah I know right I don't know there's a place there's a place for like meta commentary in art but like when I feel like what someone does is just comment on themselves it's like fuck this guy even if it's a fictional story it's just things you're thinking about yourself it's just it's just all you and your ideas that just represents you but then like deceptively woven into a narrative and ultimately everything's like that and then I think well literally everything not just art but like people selling hot dogs like they're just there to perpetuate the selling of hot dogs walking down the street you're just there to get somewhere everything everything doesn't have a point like everything is like sort of goes into living you're always thinking you're not really living the life of living like you're not really living a real life it's like if you decide to live your life one way then all you can think about is how you're not living all these other ways that you could be living and representing all these other things that you could be representing and ultimately there is no point and ultimately everything is basically life is a game of hot potato where you go from one vice to another vice to another thing you have to do until you're dead right and then you're watching the video and then that's the point and then you go to buy a burger and like the whole point of the burger is just to get a burger the burger doesn't enhance your life in any way but then like you can get money and the money doesn't enhance your life because you buy things that don't enhance your nothing but nothing matters there you go so basically you can go from complaining about meta commentary going immediately escalated to absolute nihilism pretty quickly so that's kind of why I try to avoid thinking that way but it's kind of hard that money does not improve your life and I'll take that burden off your hands if you want to send it to me so you don't have to worry about it anymore but my two points are related because when I see someone like a vlogger whose whole deal is they just talk about themselves and their life is them making vlogs and it's a big incestuous circle jerk I see someone like that and then I see someone getting super popular for doing that and getting tons of money on Patreon and I'm like what are these people seeing in this thing for what do they think Casey Neistat was or was that something else I didn't more or less I don't really know anything about him but I can like the back when Pokemon Go was a thing Hippo you know the trainer tips guy I started watching this vlogger who's the trainer tips guy because he would talk about the game and I was interested in the game at the time and the dude blew up the guy like I like what he's saying I don't understand how it fucking can blow up like this I don't think he deserves this much success from something so you know fucking not fucking basic god damn it's I mean with trainer tips it was really just he was the when it when it came to actually explaining the mechanics of the game and what's you know the updates and everything he was like the best for that but then he did like there were less updates there was less stuff going on and he just sort of started vlogging and then vlogs became so much of like the part of the video but it makes me mad and then people got invested in his life because I don't know he's got loads of Charizards I mean he plays the game a lot but he's just regurgitating stuff that like people are posting on the on the subreddits he's just regurgitating info that people on the subreddits are posting so well I think what it is is that like people who watch YouTube generally when it's like a vlog or a let's play they want to feel the company of another friend they want to pretend I understand like I'm saying all this I'm saying all this with the not like I do understand the appeal because like I was watching the video so I get liking it but then the fact that like when it then it gets really popular and I'm like oh fuck this you know this is seeing it right now someone who's content I like then I see it successful I'm like no I don't like it anymore fuck you buddy Ben let me ask you that's just called being a hipster Ben let me ask you a question just to gauge which vlogs are okay which ones aren't a vlog about going to a water park yay or nay um depending if it only if it makes less money than the trip costs well it definitely did so that's all I needed to know if it doesn't turn I'm okay with it I think I put him in debt good good good that's true art uh I only like water park vlogs when the person at the water park eats a whole bar chocolate before did he do that in the video I think he did oh yeah that was his Reg Mr. Right this mystery person I like it when their thumbnail is them with their shirt off making like a weird gesture towards a water slide that's the only time it's okay oh dear but we'll never say that episode of PCP has way less views than any other one oh no oh what a shame dude like what a shame what you're talking about like it's we're entering a we're entering the fucking Wally society where you know everyone is just sort of in shares just doing nothing like that's what that's the world we're going to where people just plug themselves into YouTube forever and all we need now is just 3D printers to make food and it will be done this is why I think the constant threat of being killed and beheaded for no reason really makes you appreciate that we really need yeah we really need some strife in our lives if we're going to do anything it's just a big difference I think fundamental difference between the way that I especially when YouTube was brand new was like engaging with YouTube the way it was originally engaged with the way it is versus the way it is now and especially by like just you know kids who are discovering it as it's already in this modern era YouTube is this thing you throw on and just endlessly swim in forever you know and for me you know for people back when YouTube was new and limited didn't have that many videos none of the videos were that good it was like going to like a weird store to like a trinket shop to think what am I going to what am I going to pick out it was sort of like going to the movies and like what movie am I going to see like what YouTube video am I going to watch it was like going to blockbuster it was like going to blockbuster and picking out videos based on the cover you just throw something on you know and that's literally how you get popular you got to get popular by like engaging the I'll throw something on audience and not the ooh what video am I going to watch audience you know and I think it's shit and it didn't have to be that way because you know like my fucking you know the invisible hand of the market logic goes well YouTube optimizes itself for what would you know get the most eyes glued to the most screens and wreck in the most cash and I think that eventually once social media has hit like a fucking event horizon where everything just spills over and it hits this like the bubble bursts you're going to see the the rise of like rebellious social media that really focused on like culling down the quantity and really ramping up the quality and like they'll finally be real competition for YouTube assuming that this fucking adpocalypse reaches critical mass right and like people will will pursue these other places these other YouTube alternatives as like a fucking identity statement and like the algorithms of those websites will be all about about quality over quantity and and yeah that I feel is the only thing that's going to stop the critical mass of longer longer pointless or pointless or pointless or vlogs about everyone everything all the time is outright rebellion outright like the human nature's desire to say fuck you to the establishment so we just got to wait for this whole vlog to get established enough I believe in that I think I hope you're right that sounds like a miracle waiting to happen it does I mean that does yeah it's a miracle because I feel like because I've seen a talk by a guy it wasn't a Ted talk so don't let me lay your fears right now this was no Ted talk viewer yeah he was explaining that the possibility is there that in the future privacy is not going to be a thing that people grow up knowing what it is yeah I agree technology technology is going to to turn all this sort of YouTube just mindless entertainment into you know technology like phones and chips you put in your head that stream your whole life and experiences across the internet for everyone to see and everybody else is also doing that and it's just a big sea of everybody knows everything about everyone else yeah we're already in we're already entering this era with say you know elected officials where they're constantly having scandals about things that politicians have always done in every administration every country ever it's just that they never got caught because we didn't have camera phones back then we didn't have guerrilla investigators and like half the time I think like half the shit that people got that put Trump into the hottest of waters was like some random thing he said one time at some point 20 years ago that there was a mic in front of and someone uploaded it right and eventually you know cut to 40 years from now or even 30 years from now when like millennials start running for office we're going to have a place where like everyone who wants to be a public official dude everyone's so fucked like it's gonna be like you tweeted this one thing when you were 15 right well I think it's gonna the N word and like you're fucked well you guys are fucked no no what it's gonna be is it's gonna be a god damn critical mass of like well now everyone is exposed on the internet everyone is bad we now know everyone's dirty laundry so now you have to select your vote based on entirely different parameters and then people choose things because everyone will know who I don't know if I have enough faith in humanity to believe it'll become a question not of who's got the least dirty laundry but who's dirty laundry's smell is the least unfunny because the example you used was Trump and that was some dirty ass laundry and then he won anyway so maybe we'll just elect people for saying the N word all the time by the way my my biggest creator that I hate is Donald Trump in the mid states of a man no creating freedom he's creating because he's creating plans to destroy ISIS and we all know we need ISIS yeah to appreciate life true we need ISIS to stop Wally from having it he's ready for questions Donald Trump wants to fix all our problems and I hear to say no we need our problems I feel like we've been going for an hour is anybody else have any like last minute I think so I have a couple of ones a little quick like tiny ones couple just one which is cinemasins obviously let's see oh yeah fucks it that's my opinion my opinion my opinion of cinemasins has always been like well obviously they just slap these videos together with the fuck ever it's mildly amusing sometimes if I care about the movie whatever but then no but it's fucking nonsense yeah well then a friend of mine recommended me these videos called like cinemasinsins I don't remember what they're called but there's this guy who like rebuts cinemasins with like just going down he's done like five of them which is all you really need to be convinced most of them are of the Marvel movies reviews like yeah I watched the Civil War one right where this guy rebutted their videos yeah he made really good points so like at first I was kind of naysaying this guy because the way he made his case especially in his first one against them sounded just like a stupid fucking comment of like oh cinemasins is misleading the audience misinforming them about the movies and like he had a really respectful tone I was like under tailoring him up there for comedic effect but it was just I was imagining the transcript of this guy's video pissing me off especially if I liked cinemasins or if it was like a video that I made right but I have to admit this is an instance where the amount of actually being factually wrong reaches a critical mass of okay yeah your videos suck right because like commenters love to do that oh you got this point wrong you got that point therefore you're invalid and it's like fuck you but like this guy over the course of several videos especially the one on the Marvel movies convinced me that cinemasins are shitty not just at like making videos or analyzing them but even watching movies and paying adequate attention I am convinced that cinemasins are not just doing cynical YouTube clickbait shit to like get the views but are also just outright lazy in general last time I checked cinemasins uploads once every three days right and yet I think he does two movies a week yeah something like that right let's just say once every three days right and like this guy convinced me that they only watch the movies once maybe twice and are probably taking down notes as they're going through without pausing by the sheer level of like fucking up that their points have and I explained to my friend yeah three days is a lot but three days is enough time to watch the movie raw take down some notes after watching it watch the movie again taking down notes while you watch it and then watch the movie a third time to make sure you didn't fuck anything up right you can do all that in one day if it's a full time job second day edit the video make the whole fucking video and then have your lunch break because it should only take like three hours tops right then you can take the rest of the day and the whole third day just doing whatever right so clearly shit channel and it's like it's just one channel that has been objectively I like cinema since I have a video game where you beat them up it's it's it's really it's really like telling when you when you realize you know most people don't have a very good work ethic and they still manage to get videos out so quickly because they're they're just not they're not using their brain that much yeah it's just it's another thing when I when I feel like I have to work a lot harder than other people to get things out faster and I realize that they're not working hard themselves yeah so guys if you want to if you guys want to beat the shit out of cinema sins I have a flash game for it just Google footwear man beats up cinema sins I made a long time ago just at Jesse's request so there you go the other thing I hate about cinema sins is that they've spawned so many imitators oh god oh no if you want oh do you remember there's multiple brony ones brony sins cinema sins cinema sins no dude no if you want objective fucking proof that your video style is easy there is one channel I saw that's like literally an 11 year old girl doing it for every episode of sonic boom it's great oh dear yeah I actually like the idea it's adorable the point stands though it's a very easy formula to ape but yeah the only I mean for a lightning round thing the thing I was just going to say two things off the bat that I always hated that I don't even pay attention to much anymore the channels where it's just like a girl with big tits that are like being pushed up with a bra just staring at the camera and that's it and they get a million views and get tons of money I hate them oh yeah like Ben and Jackie's college fun that's yeah that's pretty much exactly the same thing what we do over there hate that hate Ben clearly I haven't watched it yet but if that's what it is then you don't have to reveal that fuck up then the other thing is just reaction channels in general they're all terrible like Ben and Jackie's college fun yeah exactly we're pretty we're pretty much guilty of everything that's been described today yeah that's all I got anybody else have any closing remarks quickly before we go to questions because we're pushing an hour here I don't like people who do twitch and are really bored and they get hundreds of billions of currency some currency I don't understand like every five seconds is like oh some guy gave you a hundred bucks oh yeah thanks I'm just gonna keep playing this game twitch is a platform I don't like there's nothing on twitch I enjoy it's all bad especially when you make tons of money I don't understand the drive to watch someone play like heartstone or league of legends or something and be like yeah I just don't get the idea of watching video games I've tried I've really tried to get into it and like if you do good on you but I don't get it I'm just when I watch because I only want to watch people playing games that I like or I want to play and the whole time I'm just like I kind of want to just play the game now and then I just turn it off and I'll go play the game so I don't really get it not my thing okay are we going to questions? are we good? yep let's go here's a question from the pcp patron lounge if you want to get to this exclusive lounge where we all hang out and chat with you fucking sheeple go over to the pcp patreon and throw in a buck you'll get access you can ask us these questions you can I think did you posted pictures of his Phymosis cock in here the other day so if you want to get on that does that count as false advertising if I just like give out a plate and say give us money um no yes but we encourage that no because it's true because it's I can see them right now somebody go post 4k we gotta go convince him okay here's a question from cucked by the laws of aerodynamics who wants to know if you could get any movie sequel made what would it be oh god um I don't even like movies the brave little toaster full oh shit I love brave little toaster even though the 2 and 3 were made by disney and they weren't as good as the first one I want more toaster no I actually have a great answer to this okay um I don't know if anyone's ever heard of fucking rap city street kids believe in santa is an abominable christmas special yeah we reviewed it on the college fund and it it was supposed to have a sequel like the end of it ends with like will be back for easter but it was so bad and was received so terribly that it never got made and there's nothing I would rather see in this world than rhapsody street kids to easter easter fester yeah so that's my pig I'm gonna cheat because it's what I do and instead of a sequel I want a prequel because I want to see more movies in the inception universe but I don't want to see a sequel because that'll ruin the ambiguous ending of the first one but I want to see more adventures of friends going into people's dreams and fucking around I think that'd be a lot of fun oh leo uh young leo meets young sheldon yes I want him to incept young sheldon to convince him to be an atheist it's where he learned his inception you find out that young is that's what it was young sheldon invented the tech to his brain young sheldon invented the dream the dream die of technology oh my god by accident well we did it we came up with the perfect movie honey I incepted the dream young sheldon's also married young sheldon's also married uh tell him what movie do you want to see the suicide diaries to yeah exactly I don't know that's too close to home yeah it's totally that's I'm gonna make it myself just you wait one of these days oh god nothing's really spring to mind to be totally honest yeah there's no 9-11-2 oh that's coming too at the rate we're going let's be real what the trump tower maybe I'd be pretty oh yeah man imagine just imagine not saying I want it to happen just saying it'd be kind of cool don't you think I mean maybe interesting the tower would be a shame of something to wear to happen what it was who is saying that who's making the veil threat to trump uh isis program that's how they said it the shame of something it's great or good to make sure we don't we don't all end up as walley we're gonna blow up trump tower good on ya isis the heroes we deserve they did it okay well great question monkey let's move on to the next one I guess unless devu had an answer oh yeah I was thinking about it because I was thinking thinking of every movie I like and like I don't want sequels to any of them you know I'm just down on the whole sequels remakes, reboots, re-everything is that any one is your name too what was their name lol but no um so I was thinking well I don't like the idea in general so how can I turn it how can I spin it into a win right and I had the idea a while ago that like hollywood should just re-everything all at once in one giant thing and then like kill everyone so I had like how can you do that while like also being the ultimate showdown re-vengeance and just make it like all the actual fucking people not just flat shitty flash animations full score by lemon demon of course who has lately gotten really good at combining fucking music together deal Cicerega that guy so like just yeah he just he's been good at that for a while yeah he fucking like smashes every fucking movie soundtrack into one we're using his incredible and like all the actors are brought back for a final movie and they all get slaughtered and there we go we can finally have new IPs because I'm as big on we need new IPs as anybody because IP every day fantastic um alright anybody else have a question I'm looking through the chat most of them well here's here's one from here's one from at you underscore flame why does didgy insist on shaking his gross phymosis cock the regular foreskin have to wipe their dig find out on the PCP patreon where didgy posted several photos and this is not false advertising I think it's just because there's another question in there about like how has having girlfriends improved our hygiene and I have to imagine didgy's toilet is no longer a giant piss stained mess but I don't know I have not seen images of that can anybody confirm I have not been there no I have not I can answer the question on the procrastinators fan chat not false advertising yeah the military yes but not directly so so like I actually do take showers almost every day now but like I mean my girlfriend does not but like what it is is that just like you know having a fucking relationship and sex just sort of balances out my fucking brain and I can make better decisions for myself like oh hey if I take a shower I will immediately like get that 15 minutes of time back by like how much faster I'm gonna work and clean I'm gonna feel awesome so yes indirectly but it's I had I still do and have always had better hygiene than my partner in question haha when I throw her under the bus sorry sitting next to you there you go all right whose girlfriend I guess is disgusting she just takes a shower every other day it's normal oh yeah that's fine what about you Ben marginally marginally just not as beard I I I probably brush my teeth a little more often nowadays you know to be polite so that's pretty good but everything else is pretty much the same yep that's my answer do we have any other Twitter questions today I want more questions Leo J. Larkin ask is there a literary device that makes you immediately stop caring about a story personally chosen one slash prophecy that's my big one for sure I feel it's just so tired and played out that I I almost like I almost want someone to put a spin on it that makes it interesting again because I feel like everyone who does it does it exactly the same I I did I did mention earlier the bit about like breaking the fourth wall if you break the fourth wall too much it makes me stop caring if you break the fourth wall so much that it's like this isn't even Changa's dude that's that's in canon okay well to answer the question I mean the first thing that springs to mind is like when the narrative device of that like lets me know immediately that there's gonna be a big dramatic people getting mad at each other scene over a misunderstanding or the liar revealed but like I thought that I was really unique with that whole point about the liar revealed until nostalgia critic coined to the term and started talking about it a lot and so that that whole crusade went on hopefully but to go really really broad like the biggest connecting fiber between my disengagement with most stories but mostly most movies is when the goal isn't clear when like the point or like the objective or like how the characters are gonna go about their objective isn't clear regardless of whether or not it's an action movie like I gotta save the president or a romance movie like I gotta get that girl to like me you know it's just whenever the it's just the movie is not telling me exactly what the point or what the goal is I just get so fucking confused and it's such a different thing with like Hollywood movies like I remember Star Wars episode 7 having this where it's like okay we kinda have to go here but we kinda have to go there but we're kinda gonna do this but we're kinda not I die like I remember the Hobbit movies having the same problem I couldn't quite like get like why everyone is doing the thing that you're doing I'm done you need to establish your stakes like very clearly because that's like the linchpin of getting people to actually give a fuck so if you don't do that the whole everything else just doesn't feel I think you basically just said this when we're just gonna reiterate it is that any fake character like protagonist versus protagonist conflict that you know is going to be solved it just feels like I instantly get like really stressed out because I'm like this whole conflict is completely pointless it's not gonna affect anything like they're not gonna keep fighting forever like so just can we just I have I'll just flip through the pages and skim it until it gets over with I have a VHS tape that's like stuck right before that scene happens the rocketeer right I watched a handful of years ago or I almost did but then like I knew that basically I could tell based on like everything red flags were were blaring out of the screen up my ass like there's gonna be a scene where the guy like meets the girlfriend and she's mad at him and she's probably gonna slap him and a little bit like rocketeer juice is gonna come out of his rocket ass or something I just know it and I know all the plot beats that are happening so I'm like yeah there's gonna be a scene where she's mad at him and he's at his lowest point and I was so mad preemptively I was so preemptively mad knowing it was gonna happen and bring down my entire opinion of the otherwise perfectly okay movie that I was watching so I I paused the movie stopped it took out the tape and I have not gotten back to it for years until this day it stays exactly at that point and I'm just ready ready with a fucking shotgun everybody likes to suck the dick of the new it movie that like for no reason the kids all stopping in friends and then not even two minutes later it's resolved like finally shoe horn into every fucking movie it's so unnecessary and uninteresting I'd much rather they do it that way where it's like something it's just done just don't do it at all I agree but if you're going to do it quickly but why what does it fucking add I don't I don't know it's very it's totally stupid for me I don't even get as mad about like the forciveness of it I can't believe the characters would act I guess it's really the forciveness but it's always stupidity on the part of the main character right like I remember hearing that there's like what's that one movie about the fucking lizard iguana guy who can camouflage and therefore he lies and like that has a liar revealed seen in it I haven't seen it but nostalgia critic said that it's an example of a movie that works because Rango Rango I won't say like Jango Unchained but that's not the right movie so anyway he was saying like that movie works because like a movie about a character who's like thing is that he's deceptive and he has to learn his lesson about it and I'm like there you go right I hate it when it's like a character who I'm supposed to like relate to or has any sort of arrangement of personality things or things going on with them and they always somehow find themselves in a place where they're incentivized to lie about themselves and they always go about lying about themselves in the same fucking way or they fail to communicate in a certain way for me I never fucking put up with people in the seat get out the fucking white board if I have to and visualize like a fucking chalkboard YouTube video why they're wrong and misunderstanding something to the point that they're exhausted and don't give a shit anymore that's how all of my liar revealed scenes go all of my misunderstanding scenes go it goes with them saying I don't care anymore fine shut the fuck up I just I'm so taken out of it by the fact that like when the character gets to the misunderstanding happening they just sort of sit there and like sigh and let the girl why can't there just be one character just beat that woman yeah just one character who's like shut up no I remember there's like one movie that's like a fucking child above who gets framed for being a terrorist and he literally says I would be the stupidest terrorist in the world if I did this that and the other this doesn't make any sense he actually stands up for himself and I'm like fucking eagle eye yeah eagle eye he stands up for himself and I was so fucking I'm so good at this baby you are yeah I was so fucking relieved that he finally up the ass I can't relate to that at all and yeah I hate it it's every episode of friends oh really you know what I want I want a movie it also ties into like oh we don't believe you like if there's like a supernatural thing happening and like the main character does a terrible job explaining it and so therefore no one believes him I want to have a thing that has the misunderstanding and no one believes you thing and like it causes his life to be ruined but then like people finally find out that the plot that it actually was real all the time and they like have a little and they all kill themselves no no he kills them so they have a celebration about it yeah they have a I want that movie too literally it's like this it's like it's gonna be like okay you know like from dusk till dawn which has like a horror movie twist halfway through this is going to be a like does that this is gonna be like a horror movie twist that happens in the last scene right it's otherwise a normal family movie or some shit with a mysterious you know there's a couple of signs early on and throughout the movie that he might be psychotic but otherwise he acts like a perfectly normal fucking 80s protagonist just sort of taking this fucking bullshit from all these people who don't like understand him for no fault of his own and then at the end they have a little party or a little festival they're like yeah we're really sorry about that you know once the plot revealed to us that you were right and then he just like he gets up to make his speech but he pulls out a fucking oozy and just fucking slaughters them with a particularly nasty line to him you see him stab her with a fork until her neck borderline comes off but he gives up and moves on to someone else you know that's what I fucking want as a movie well Davoo you know your life's work is ahead of you you know what you have to do it's time it's time to get started it'll be called Davoo the real life story be the change be the change I remember it happens in like Home Alone 3 and I'm like yelling at the characters I was like what Jesus calm down like I want them dead wait you were saying that stuff out loud I wasn't saying fuck I was just saying like casually like I hate those characters they should die I was just casually saying I want them to die my dad was so offended on behalf of my threatening of the murder of these fictional characters Home Alone 3 is a lively event at the Davoo household yeah this was like 15 years ago it's a family tradition I remember I remember at Radcon 2 you were telling us all about Home Alone 3 I was yeah it was in the car I recorded a vlog of him telling us the details of every home alone oh yeah I remember that now did I just confuse a YouTube video with real life well no because you were there you were in the passenger side oh okay I just got the time mixed up well never mind nope listen to me I'm gonna kill myself oh no just like Davoo once I don't like when stuff happens is when a thing tries to be funny and they don't do it right and it's not even funny bad and that's all I have to say are you talking about my videos Hippo? god damn it and with that hey we've been the PCP folks I'm on YouTube yeah you're all welcome bye bye are we done? are we done with questions? we're done all the other questions are gay yeah sorry I didn't look at them but they're probably gay if your gay question didn't get answered keep tweeting better luck next time patronize keep on rockin' in the PCP girl don't forget you can listen 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