 I'm six oh one. So I'll keep an eye on the waiting room. But I'll get us going here with, um, maybe, um, maybe one of our last zoom select board meetings. We'll talk about that later, I guess. But as chair of the Rochester select board, I find that due to the state of emergency declared by Governor Scott as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic and pursuant to addendum six to executive order zero one dash 20 and act 92. This public body is authorized to meet electronically in accordance with act 92. There is no physical location to observe and listen contemporaneously to this meeting. However, in accordance to the temporary amendments to the open meeting law, I confirmed that we are providing a platform for the public to join us using the zoom platform and you can find access to that either on the posted warnings throughout town on the town website or by requesting specifically from the town clerk a link to said meeting. And here we are again, zooming up a storm. No one else is in the waiting room. So we've got a dozen tonight. Does anyone have any additions to the agenda at this time. Hearing none, I guess we'll move forward with the minutes from the prior meeting, which seems a long time ago at May 24. And I read through them and didn't see any corrections. How about you guys. I also read through them, they look fine. Yep. Good to me. Yep. So I'd move to approve those minutes as typed up. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. One favor. All right. All right. We have, I don't think that Terry Severi is here yet. He's on the guest list. So we'll let him hang a little bit while we go right to you, Joan. This is Kristen. I have Terry's every year with me. And I'm going to talk about the utility rates on the new business. Is that right, Terry? Yeah, I, I talked to Frank a little bit this weekend. I'm sure there's some questions that we probably need to just sit down and person with this and Frank felt the same way. I think we all, you guys got all the information because I left it, you know, in the office. Yeah, I did get a copy of that. And it was. There's a lot of information there. I guess more of a. Explanation of that would be helpful. Right. I think that's why I think we need to get together and go through it line by line that. Explain that better. Yeah. Pat, did you have something you want to say about that? Is that what that pen is? No. I read it. I read it over and, you know, digested it and would be ready to have a sit down as well. Yeah. So I have a question. Is the information that he wants to go over with you? That's information about. Why he feels the utility rate should be raised. Is that it? Or. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. And the data behind that and the need for that. So I guess we should warn a, um, Warn a meeting where we can get together and then talking in person about that. Yeah. Any time. Whatever you decide is good. Okay. Right. So, um, Probably earlier in the day is better for me than later in the day. Thursday is not a good day. We need to have what? You know, We need to have a meeting. We need to have three days ahead of time. Do you want to sit down? Maybe Friday morning and talk about it? Sure. What time? Eight. It's up to you. Does that work for you, Pat Frank? Sure. I'm in Maine. So I guess it, you know, that's okay. You'll be zoom in. Um, well, I'm in Maine. So I think that would be something. I'm not coming home from vacation. Um, yeah. Unless you want to move it into next week, then I, I'm home on Monday. You're home on Monday. Yeah. We can do it next week. It's not a big deal. All right. Why don't we shoot for, um, Monday at eight. Um, unless, um, I can't do it on Monday. You can't do it on Monday. No, I haven't, I have a doctor's thing. Um, I can do it Tuesday though. Tuesday morning sounds fine to me. Um, tentatively let's, um, I have to check my rental schedule. See if I have, um, I'm on the road Tuesday morning, but it should not be. So tentatively let's, um, Um, we'll verify tomorrow that, um, we can, um, We can do it on Tuesday morning. And then we'll have, um, we can warn a meeting for eight o'clock on next Tuesday morning to talk about the. Increase. You want to put a tentative date in there doing in case you can't. Um, a while we, while we say for two, I'll know. Um, before we post the warning. Um, I'll get with, um. Um, with Julie and, and, and verify that I can do that. 22nd, 22nd. Okay. At the town office. Yeah. In person. Our first official in person since the COVID. Yeah, this would be our practice run. Practice run. Okay. Thank you, Terry. Thanks for putting all that information together. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Now Joan. Okay. Just a quick rundown on what I've been doing since the last, like word meeting. Working on the five, getting the five ditching projects. Ready to go. So they're now under contract and just a matter of. Whenever the contractors get together with Cooter and decide they're ready to start work. Yeah. The structures grants have, I think I sent you an email denied that, letting you know that the two structures grants have been approved. I V trans one is for the replacement of the nation, Brooke Colbert front of Terry's house. Yeah. And the others are Colbert designed to replace a Colbert on a failing Colbert on how Brooke on town line road. Which hopefully will be a project next year. I think we'll be able to do the design for that one. I've been working with Frank and several other parties to prepare. This and Brooke project to start. Contractor has some work to do, like just to order the Colbert. And we've got some issues to work out. Having to do with, with how we'll deal with traffic. When the time comes. So don't have a start date for that yet. And we can't start till at least July 1st anyway, because we don't have a grant agreement. And it has to be the new fiscal year in order for V trans to issue the agreement. So we're working towards that. It'll be done this year in any case. The season. On the retaining wall. No, we had a, a, a meeting. On site meeting for perspective. So we're working on that project. And given that we expect the cost to be. Approximately twice what FEMA has agreed to give us. I'm doing some research to see if there are others funding sources to help the town pay for it. It's a little tricky because. And I have to look into this some more, I have to look into that more and see if that's going to be an impediment to us or not. Excuse me, Joe. You said the retaining wall, but you didn't say where, and I've forgotten. I'm sorry. I think you mentioned it before. Right by the town clerk's office. Okay. Thank you. So anyway, I'll have more information on that soon. I hope on whether we can get some more funding for that. The thing we might need to do that would help was to. Call the part that FEMA is funding is just stabilizing. The bank itself. And then deal with that the, the storm water outlet. And the wastewater outlet. Yeah, the wastewater line that parallels the brook. As being sort of like a separate but related project. And maybe there's funding specifically for that. So I'll let you know more. A little vague, but I have a few ideas. And then the last thing is preparing for. The next grant and aid project. Which wouldn't, which would happen in 2022. We already have a grant and aid project going forward this year, which is going to be ditch work on. Hollow road. And we're thinking about. Is that to make sure it's going to be. Fundable under the grant and aid project, which has to have. Hydrologically connected roads. Road to be part of the project. But that would be to. Frost drains on Bethel mountain road. That need to be replaced. Somewhere closer in the vicinity. To the Rogers brook over. So that's it. All right. Thank you. Do you guys have any questions for John? I'm moving forward. No. I think that. We were in terms of the traffic control for the project. On the nascent's brook. We're, we're looking at probably. Closing traffic. On the road for. Get that done. Right. Yeah. Might as well. Out there. Right. That's a major part of our discussion. We're going to be meeting on. Talk about that. And we'll be in touch with the trans to get their help on it as well. Yeah. That would just make it happen. Much quicker. And one of the biggest concerns we have with that doing it also is we can't control truck traffic on that. We're at to get a 53 foot truck up through there and. Not be able to go through the. Detour part. And we're concerned. I'm a little concerned with that. That could be a real problem if. That did happen. We can't really control all that. So. Yeah. No, I think that's the best idea. Just close it. Yeah. A lot of folks in town already know what it's like to have Bethel mountain road closed. True. For maximum of three weeks. So hopefully it won't be too disruptive. And I have spoke with Bethel on it. Talk to. Therese down there and they've got some work they could do. On their side at the same time, the roads closed. And that would save them a. Quite a bit. Because traffic control now is very expensive too. It's. It's 12 to $1,500 a day. Or a traffic. Control. Well, so it's a, it's pretty expensive. It's a lot of traffic. It's a lot of traffic. It's a lot of traffic. It's a lot of traffic. It's a lot of traffic. It's a lot of traffic. It's a lot of traffic control. So it's a, it's pretty expensive. It adds a lot to the cost. All right. Well, thank you, John. Tony. What's new in the library? Well, we will be having our first. Live meeting face to face meeting in the Vermont room. Tomorrow at six o'clock, the trustees will meet. And we will be having our first meeting. Actually, some of us may not have been in the library for months. I think. Frank got me over there the other day and I. Had to go in and saw some of the changes that have been made, the new lights and various other things. So it's kind of interesting. I would imagine that we will discuss. Just how much opening the library will do. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know about the library people, but we should be. We should be opening it up. Soon here. So that's. Nice. Yeah. On the news tonight, Tony, it said the governor said since they, we had 80%. Everything was open, but I don't know if that, what that means about things like libraries. Yeah. See, I don't either because some businesses can still have some restrictions. I guess. I don't know. What the libraries will do. Tony. Could you bring up that your meeting? When the historical society will have access to the building again. Yeah, you just want to know when it is. I didn't know you didn't. I think we should be, I think we should be advised as to when we can have access to the building. Okay. We'll do that. We haven't been in there either. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It would be helpful to us if we knew. Yeah. I'm sure. Thank you. All right. Thank you. All right. Thank you, Tony. I guess really you've Jones updates kind of covered the. Highway topics. There's nothing. Terry, did you have anything other on utilities? Front other than just wanting to meet about the rates. No, everything seems to be okay. We just barely finished up the inspection last week. So I should be getting a letter on that. All right. All right. Other than that. Everything's good. Good. Good. I saw that Jeff get part is. Sitting on a plane right now between here in Seattle. So he's not going to be reporting. No zoom. I don't know. I don't know. I don't have any contact from the plane. I guess. Yeah. Kirk. I didn't know if you had anything. That you wanted to. To chat about tonight or if you just hear. Just to check in and see how we're doing. We are do have on the agenda. The select board certification for the coronavirus local fiscal committee. I don't have any. Any more information or any questions or statements? I don't just, just mostly stopping in to say hi and just, and see if you had any questions for me. As you know, the session is done. Now until January. With a couple of exceptions. We're coming back. Middle of. Well, around the 23rd. To a veto override. Session to see what we can do there, but otherwise we're basically done until January. And I don't have a lot to say. Nor do I have a lot of deep insights into your ARPA money. Other than you should have it or you're getting some of it. At this point. But otherwise, no, I, I. I published all over the place. A number of reports on what, what had happened. And so hopefully everyone got a chance to read those. And if they don't, I'm happy to talk to people or send you what I have. That was a, that was all a synopsis of the 16 pages of notes I have on, on the various bills. So, but no, unless you have anything for me, I just. I appreciate you sitting in and joining with us. So on the topic of the ARPA, we did. Managed to secure our, I would, I would move to. Appoint and authorize Larry Strauss as our ARPA coordinator. My talk with him this afternoon and he's willing to, to take that. Take that post. And I'm going to hurry up and second that. All right. All in favor. Hi. Hi. Okay. So. Could you please explain to me what ARPA stands for? Because I, I, I somehow don't know. American rescue plan act, I believe. We're a plan assistant recovery. I think it's recovery. American recovery. Yeah, I think so. American recovery plan act. It stands for American rescue plan. Okay. Yeah. Rescue plan act. I'm sorry. And so Larry Strauss is going to be the town's coordinator for that. ARPA coordinator. Yeah. Okay. And do we do need to. So do we have another, it says the select board's certification for the. Coronavirus local fiscal recovery fund. Is that basically, do we have to make another. Act other than appointing Larry as the coordinator. It's just a matter of me going on to the website and. Accepting that we're going to accept the money that. The government is sending. Yeah. Or the state. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. You can do a resolution that we plan on doing that just to make it. Formal. Okay. I second that motion that. So what should I say that you voted to accept? Okay. And we're accepting where we're going to vote to accept a resolution to accept the ARPA money from the state. Okay. Voted to approve a resolution to accept. The ARPA money from the state. And we will start the process of trying to figure out how exactly we can use that money. And you need to vote on it. Yeah. Okay. Hi. Hi. Okay. So. Thank you. Sorry. Larry. Yeah. Thank you, Larry. Yeah. No kidding. Yeah. So yeah, that'll be interesting to see exactly. And we have three years to. You know, you can. Deal with this and, and Larry is signed up for a webinar this Wednesday to, you know, he's, he's already attended. At least one. So, you know, he's been. Delving into exactly what. What the parameters are, what we can do with this money. And. I could reach, I could reach out to Larry as well, because I've been collecting quite a bit of information as well. Okay. Great. Thank you. Thank you. I, I promised him that. We wouldn't necessitate too many meetings on his part, but he can work and then advise us. What's, what's on. What he finds out. We still sort of have to be involved though, right? Oh yeah. We're going to be involved. We have some decisions to make, but he is, will be our designated representative that will be coordinating, you know, in the future. Yeah. We have a fairly. Major philosophical decision about how. Which direction we're going to take with this as this. We're going to be looking for just identifying individuals that have experienced stress around it and helping them. Or are we going to take this money and trying. Figure out how to use it to benefit the town as a whole, which is kind of my thought that's the, um, if there's that we can frame it in a way that we can take care of some. Challenges that the town has to really, you know, you know, use it to move forward and things that we've been procrastinating because we generally can't, can't afford to, we just have to be able to, um, couch it in a way that is, um, related to the COVID stress as far as I understand. So, um, but we'll, um, find out more information and then I guess we'll have some more conversations about that in the future. Yep. Yep. Okay. Um, the, um, roadside mowing, the topic on that, um, Julie, do you have some insight of what, what's that, why that's on the agenda is about the timing of the mowing He, um, he wanted to make sure to get the word out. Um, he's planning to start in September. Um, and work until October 15th. And he just wanted to get the word out so that if there are, if, uh, people up like up in hawk want to have their contractors, um, most stuff back far enough, then, you know, he can drive by and make sure that everything is to his liking. Um, Yeah. He'll be renting machines sometime at the end of September to October. Yeah. Who is he? Uh, Puder. Okay. That's what I thought. Okay. If I just basically said roadside mowing is expected to begin in September. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Pat. Um, and a reminder about people that, um, wanted to omit their roadside from the mowing, do they need to sign up again every year? Well, he, he, he didn't, his thoughts were that if they, if they hire it out or they don't do it, it's going to get done. Okay. But there were people last year that did not want any roadside mowing like Jan McKinney, um, Harlan. And so we just need to put it out there that if they still agree with that, they should contact you and let you know. Correct. Here that they still want to be on the no mo list. Right. I believe so. Yeah, I think that we will, um, we should probably continue to, um, make mention of this in their meetings going forward. So it's not, um, forgotten about and just jumps up as a surprise again. Yeah. Okay. So they should, they can just call you at the, at the count office to Lee. Yes. Thank you. Yeah. It'll be, um, he did say, um, September 20th until October 15th. Okay. Nancy, something you want to contribute. It just seems as though it's awfully late. Well, it's the only time he could get the tractor. Yeah. That was the only time he could get the equipment. I tried earlier, but he just, they couldn't. They'd already. Blend it out. Yeah. I think that will. Appears to have done their road coming up over the mountain. Yeah. Bridges mode there. Yep. All right. Um, so we've got the, um, Windsor County Sheriff's committee. Um, All right. Um, so we've got the, um, Windsor County Sheriff's contracts. Um, again, to, um, To, um, Kind of look through that and it seems to be, um, You know, we're, um, I don't think we want to not sign it. Does anyone have any, um, Anything to say about that? I just have a, um, A comment. There's a lot of comments on front porch forum about, um, The roads in the hollow and Maple Hill and the speed at which people are driving. And. It may be something you want to discuss with the sheriff. About having a presence on those roads. Yeah. Spreading it around a little bit. Yeah. I mean, I also heard about the north hollow road and that, uh, Even to the extent the homeowner was putting orange cones out in the road. To try to slow traffic down. Um, Uh, that's not allowed. And so, uh, We may want to have that conversation with the sheriff, uh, About expanding the patrol to the outer skirts of the, To give that presence. Yeah. And his opinion and his opinion because there's a movement about Possibly lowering the speed limits. Of course that conversation comes up when people complain about cars Going too fast. So, uh, we would value the sheriff's opinion about, um, If that is a major problem or not. Yeah. Yeah. So I moved to, um, Uh, The sheriff signing his contract again. I second it. Yep. All in favor. All right. All right. Great. Thank you. Windsor County. Um, also we have a contract for. Able waste. And this is the modification, Which is going to bring us their, um, Trash and recycling services on a weekly basis now. Um, And then we're going to move to Hancock and Granville. Starting July 1st, right? I believe so. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Excuse me. So, um, yeah, I'm glad that this has worked out this way. And I'd move to approve that contract. I second that. All in favor. All right. All right. All right. And we also have, um, Um, I'm glad that this is the one for the Suzuki camp for their, um, they're coming back again. Um, missed them last year. And this is for Thursday, July 15th from five to seven for their traditional, um, Um, Welcome to town and I'm picnicking and fiddle concert. Um, I'm glad that I moved to approve that. I second it. All in favor. All right. All right. Okay. And we have, uh, Had another. Park use application, but it did not make it on to the, um, Onto the agenda for this time. And this is for the, the library on June 23rd, which would be, um, you know, Before our next meeting. So this is for, um, A June book club discussion on the gazebo. And I, um, Even though it's not on the agenda, I feel like we could, This is a pretty, um, consistent thing. I, I think we could go ahead and move. To prove that. Good, but perhaps with the emergency lifted and people now. Uh, unable to meet in person. Um, maybe the library will decide to have that indoors like they always have. Um, maybe, uh, Tony Goopy could present that, that if they wanted to move that to the inside of the library, The, the guidelines say that they can do that now. Right. So that's a good thing. I mean, it's a little bit of a liability, but it would be good to be able to have the. Have the outside just in case. But I, you know, I think, uh, If they've liked the inside better in the past, That might be what they'll do. Okay. Yep. Fair enough. Should I just put down that you approved that there gave them permission to use the, the, the bandstand and. You know, that's that. I think we're about to, yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. So, um, all in favor. Hi. Okay. Yep. Um, I know some of the vehicles driving by lately, it can might be kind of hard to have a, a conversation on the, on the bandstand. I mean, a lot of loud trucks in town lately. That's true. Yeah. Um, Okay. Um, I, um, did I miss anything? I don't think so. No, I've got a, just a couple of things. Um, just about the building. Mike's about done. Uh, over there. He's waiting for a cap on the chimney. And then he'll be taking the stage and down. Um, There is a boot on the back of the, of the stink pipe there on that building that Terry's going to see if he can't get a nice boot from, uh, down at 10 pins and Pittsfield to replace the one that's there because that's where that's leaking around the, the pipe there and coming down into the building. And, uh, Mike's going to tar the, the part up there under that. I don't know what the hell is up by the chimney, but. Uh, some then of some sort, I guess, but he's going to tar what's leaking there and fix that. Well, he's, he's got everything up there. And, uh, I'm going to look at trying to get that roof painted because I'm not having very good luck getting the buildings painted, but we could probably add another 10 to 15 years to that roof. If we get it painted. So I'll look at getting that done. Uh, soon. Excuse me, Frank, am I correct that you're talking about the town clerk's office building? Yes. Okay. Thank you. And I did talk with a contractor that was working at max there, Vermont roofing company about the leak in the library. And he's going to give me a price on what it's going to cost to get a 60 foot lift because that's what he figures he's going to need because of the approach to get there. I was kind of hoping they could get it with a ladder, but he, he said there's no way there's just, it's too high. So I'm going to go, I'm going to go to the north side. I'm going to go to the north side. Yeah, I can go up on the north side. He said it just as it's pretty high. So, um, he's going to give me a price for a day. And two men. And so we'll have some idea of what that's going to cost. At least, and then we can make a decision. But we got to deal with it sometime. So. Yeah. I'm just going to let you know that that's coming. And. At some point, I know Jeff and I are going to meet with. I'm going to look at the properties and look at. What we need to make them a little more energy efficient. And what kind of cost, and we might be able to get some grant money for that. And I spoke with Lois. Who said she would help initiate that if, if we need to. And I'm going to try to talk Jeff, Jeff into doing it with. And I'll help him too. And, and, uh, if we need help, Lois said she. She's going to help us and she's familiar with that grant. That type of grants. So. Which was good to hear. So. We're going to move in that direction on some of that stuff. Um, Pat, did you, you had your hand up, you wanted to say something. I had a phone conversation meeting with. John Copens last week who is from the Vermont council on rural development. And he is a program director for the climate economy model, which they're taking a look at Rochester to, uh, See how they could possibly work with us in several different ways. So it was almost more like an interview with him. Um, and I invited him to talk to a few other people around town as well. And so, um, we'll see what that program may have something to offer to our town as well. So, um, So, um, Again, that's that's efficiency and how to make our town a better place. So, um, Patty, what was his name again? John, what? John J O N. Last name. Copen C O P A N S. A N S and he's from, he's from which organization? Council on rural development. Thank you. I appreciate you answering my questions. I'm hoping to have him come and speak to the select board sometime or something. Okay. Uh, yeah, he probably will be making a presentation and he will be talking to envision Rochester people and. Nancy. Do we have any information on the planning grant? We do not. I do not. I don't know if thicker Catherine have. I know that the formal, The decision was supposed to have been made late last week, but the formal announcement comes in early July. So I'm not sure if they. Have that inside scoop or not. So I haven't touched base with either one of them. Um, and I think lastly, um, we should have a discussion about our next meeting and the format for our next meeting. I think that we could probably move to in-person meetings, but I would really like to figure out a way that we can continue to. Um, also have it. Have a zoom component of it because it's, it's quite nice for, um, people that aren't in town or. Are may still. Yeah. During snowstorms. Um, I, I would really, really appreciate that fact since. Now with this lymphedema condition that I have when I walk with a walker, it's difficult for me to get around. And particularly when the weather is going to get bad, I would really appreciate being able to, to. Attend the meeting that way. Um, um, in fact, I'd like to do it that way as much as I can because I do have so much trouble getting around. And I, I don't know it's, is it going to cost more money to continue to have the zoom thing? Or is that something that town just has? I don't want to. Nominal and that's, that, that's not really a fact. Um, but the, the, how to set it up. We would see you and then you could see all of us. We have to figure out the logistics. I don't want to cause a lot of trouble for everybody, but if there's any way to do it when it, if it's not a lot of trouble, I would really appreciate it myself. I, I'm sure. We wouldn't do it just for you. It would free. Oh, I know. No, I was going to say, I'm sure there are other people. But I personally would appreciate it. It's not only for select board meetings. It's used for webinars. Um, There are all kinds of things that are, that make it a lot easier to do things. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I believe that it will be, it'll remain a part of our lives. Um, for, you know, people saving gas, not traveling there to meet in person. I mean, Just that factor. If I put in the paper that the next meeting on Monday, June 28th is going to be at 6pm in person at the town office, but that there would. Should I mention that there, um, would still be a, um, available to attend by via zoom or something, or should I not? Well, Julie will be sending out, uh, invitations if there's a zoom meeting. Yeah, it'll go on to warning anyway. We'll have to warn it as a zoom meeting, but, but an in-person meeting also. Yeah. Okay. That's the way we'll have to do it. Yep. Yep. So I want to put up one more bug out there for you guys too. I'm not sure if we have a line item in our budgets on elections. Do we? Oh God. No. I think we're going to need to have one. Well, because the state's gone to a mail out ballot for state and federal. Um, elections now and that's, that's a bear to administer. It's a lot of extra time. And I think we're going to need to put a line item in there just so that we can cover some of the costs of that. It's also not just for the, um, elections. They want it for all voting. Yes. Yeah. So, but it's not mandatory townwide right now, but it is for state and federal. Is that correct? We'll be working on the next budget year. When this goes into effect. Right. But we don't have any special line item for next year. Yeah, we'll, we'll have to stick one in. I just wanted to put the bug out there. That's all. We'll just be over budget. Yeah. All right. Um, good work. I just want to also bring up the fact that we're meeting in person for our next meeting. Are we meeting at six 15? That would be helpful to me. Yeah, we can go back to six 15. So we should probably shoot that notation in this meeting. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Six 15. Yeah. Okay. So, you know, by then, if I could, if I can attend via zoom, if I, or, or should I not. I can, I can bring my laptop and. My laptop can be. It'll be different for you, Martha, because you won't see each and everybody's face. You'll just see a room full of people. And hopefully the audio is good enough so that you can hear. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm getting prepared just in case I will, I will have some, some days I can get around better than others. And I mean, I've had days when I really had a really hard time getting around. And I, um, I, but I, I, I, my boss has been kind enough to, um, tell me I can continue to work for home from home for the foreseeable future. Cause he wants me to stay on paper. So I, um, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't have time to try and figure out how, how that can work. It may not be perfect. The next meeting, but we'll, um, we'll. All right. Thank you very much. I appreciate everybody. And I'm really, really thankful that I live in Rochester with such good people. We'll have some bugs, but we'll get them on your end out. My question for Julie. Um, are there. Criteria with zoom. I don't know what you're talking about with zoom. So zoom. Do you have any questions for the, um, for the quarter hours or things like that that have to be met. That's true. Well, And this meeting would start, it would be scheduled to start at six o'clock, but then we really wouldn't, it wouldn't take until six 15. She would. It only, you can only schedule. On the hour or half out. That's what I thought. Yeah. So she would, she would set it up as a six o'clock meeting, But people have to be advised that they're going to be. City for 15 minutes. They can still. They can. At 15 at 615, it's just that the meeting would have. Then open at six. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And that will be in the, in the warnings. So you don't have to read the COVID stuff anymore. Julie, if you. If Julie sends me or someone else a zoom. Invitation to, to click on. It would say six o'clock or it would say six 15 or. It would probably say six o'clock, but you would know that. That it's not really going to. Until six 15, we may. You know, we'll figure it out. I never knew this thing about the quarter hour. You can call Julie. Julie. And she'll check what they've decided to do. Thank you. All right. Is that it? That's it. All right. Thank you all. Thank you. Thank you everybody. We'll see you next time in person. Good night. Okay. Good night. Thanks for coming.