 welcome back it's time for off the press now and we're beginning with the punch newspaper this morning and the headline really follows from what we talked about yesterday regarding Augustine pensioners basically blocking the entrance to the secretariat because of their pensions that have been owed to the tune of 60 something million a billion Naira and the punch says pensioners had ship worsens as states all backlogs of gratuities cano akiti enogu bin re pensioners hard hits states cites cash crunch pensioners threatened to sue Southwest Governors over consequential adjustment above that on the punch newspaper 62% of enterprises use mobile banking says MBS rec says National Assembly's approval unnecessary for e transmission of results reps raised panel to probe leakage of classified documents why we continue to borrow says federal government September bonds oversubscribed amy list soldier dehumanizing female copper for trial says assault embarrassing and unfortunate Fanny Coyote exchanged wife Sue's ex-husband IG demands 800 million Naira inflation regulatory costs push banks operating expenses to 874 billion Naira pandemonium as Lagos Motorcyclist Q. Policeman destroy patrol vehicle 25 bandits kidnapped Kaduna Baptist students says suspects blame desperation and those are the stories there on the punch newspaper all right and now on the daily son big one there says we've identified and blocked terrorist financiers says the federal government PDP rights UN alleges human rights abuse in Nigeria your by nation leader Kintoya accuses federal government of sponsoring pro-bohari March in the United Nations and also CNPP defends Mfila slams PDP federal government may file fresh charges against Igbo Ho that's also on the son and also only justice and equity can end BFR agitation says governor autumn we can also find on the daily son collection of valiant attacks by FIRS remains says the government and also critics of Buhari's borrowing are insincere says minister PDP move we have no mandate to zone offices of president and VP and that is from Oguay's committee says assignment is on party offices those are the big ones on the daily son news papers this morning let's look at the leadership newspaper state of the economy APC PDP clash over call for a Mfila's resignation ethnic youth leaders slam opposition CNPP other political parties disowned PDP the federal government says they're building world-class infrastructure with loans PDP convention 6000 delegates to decide new leaders by Jaby Amila says Nigeria education system well funded a study shows that immunity can't prevent COVID-19 infection and lastly security economy top PMBs address at the United Nations General Assembly today and on the daily independent PDP zoning committee meeting ends in deadlock adjourns till 30 to meet governors and other stakeholders 6000 delegates to elect new NWC members in October also reps are CBN to reverse ban on sale of forex the BDCs 5g network ready in January says January 2022 says Pantami and also funny coward is ex lover slams 800 million Naira suit against him IGP and others federal government to file fresh charges against Sunday Bohol and also is naysay as criticizing Buhari for boring are in since yes as lie Mohammed tax dispute tribunal fixes rule-in-date as multi-choice thoughts FIR as feet figure we can also find on the daily independent reps to probe alleged leakage of classified security documents UNGA PDP acts you went to query Buhari on terrorism rights violations and corruption I think those are the stories that we can find on the daily independent front page this morning just before of course our guests joins us I think well some of the big ones this morning are with regards fresh charges to be filed you know on Sunday Bohol I'm not sure what exactly they will be but of course we will be following up and to see where that leads and also on the daily Sunday morning said was that we've identified and blocked terrorist financiers says the federal government this one of course will make headlines all through the weekend you know as Nigerians are eager to see where this heads you know if you remember a couple of days ago there was a little bit of controversy with the family addition or saying that the government is not eager to name and shame some of these terrorist financiers there's you know also some investigative reports here and there that are not verified yet so I wouldn't share concerning this but of course it's you know important to continue to encourage the federal government to do what is necessary to ensure that some of these people who are funding terrorism you know exposed you know and arrested and you know prosecuted one of the ways that I'm that everyone I think everyone knows one of the ways to end terrorism or to you know tackle crime is to cut out its funding and if they no longer able to source funding then it's difficult for them to feed or to buy weapons or to finance you know the activities and so it's very very important you know and I've said repeatedly that we've had more than 10 years of this fight against insurgency modern 10 years to be able to you know make certain arrests you know to uncover whose accounts these funds have been passing through who are the people who have been delivering cash to these bandits how have they been using you know for getting money to finance the activities to buy weapons to buy motorcycles to you know you know basically finance the activities there has to be some explanation as to why in 10 years Nigeria has not been able to arrest five people or 20 or publicly at least show that there have been you know a hundred people who have been accused of financing terrorism in Nigeria we shouldn't have waited for the United Arab Emirates we shouldn't have waited for Saudi Arabia for the United States to help us with you know finding these things out it's one of the easiest things that federal government has continued you know has continuously failed to do in the last 10 years and it gives birth to that narrative that yes you know there might be people in government who do not want these things to be exposed or to be revealed but we'll see how it goes they have an opportunity now to name and share same way they did with the entire protestors same way they did with every other situation in the country that has been against government they have an opportunity now to you know you know show where they really stand with regards to fighting against insurgency. Interesting all right let's now welcome our guest Gili Johnson he's a chief lecturer at the Nigerian Institute of Journalism. Good morning Gili Johnson thank you for joining us. Good morning and a pleasure to be joining us. There are lots of stories on the papers this morning there's the one on the Ponsonese paper that says you know pensioners have been owed salaries for over 70 something months and the federal government is saying that there's actually no money the economy is poor but the head of service have said that all pensioners have been paid and that the ones who have been paid have not completed their verification exercise and there's a one we see regarding on the daily independence where Reps is asking the CBN to revest the ban of sale of forex to the BDCs because of its impact on our foreign exchange and the daily San Pedro government says that they have identified the blocked terrorist financiers and there's also the vast controversy still there APC PDP clashing over calls for Amir Feli to resign over you know the allegations that Amir Feli had supervised you know loot of funds in the CBN yeah would you like to start to do Johnson they start with the with the story on women said that they are not interested in naming terrorist and we will see the approach of the federal government in dealing with people destroy this country mentally emotionally physically psychologically that are destroyed lies on top team that they encroach on a territorial integrity you see the with the federal government with them particularly the Bukwara are rehabilitated you know we spoken about this story and the federal government with the special advisor the president coming out that they are not interested in naming and shaming them whereas these people have been miming and destroying Nigeria it's quick for federal government to deploy his resources to arrest Sunday boo it's quick for the government to deploy resources to arrest Namdi Kano it's quick for the federal government to respond quickly and swiftly to protest across Nigeria at any point in time but here you see the federal government reacting diplomatically to terrorist that we've identified if just identified and block so those ones should not be arrested those that have committed crime against humanity they have committed crime against this nation and they have committed crime against good conscience and they only identify and block and block them you know our federal government quickly reacted to the leaders of the answers protest how the account and how the central bank quickly give directive for the accounts to be blocked and how they were all identified and how people started crying nobody has cried that the blood is on account God will help us in Nigeria because if you are inconsistent in your approach if you have a sleep where some people commit criminal offence you use your terrorist at a visitation you use your hand to pump up them rehabilitate them back in the site we are making attempt to call for self-determination you use the big stick a slight armor to deal with them is just shoes the direction with which the government is going on the collection of that by photographic insisting that okay they will say collect the but where the Supreme Court we decide that whether it's under the exclusive list or whether it's under the concurrent list or whether collection of that is under residualist but the more this thing goes on the more irritated Nigerians are and the more the more shocking it becomes to see the the the imbalance and the injustice that exists in Nigeria as a nation and I think there is a need for us to look at this because if it happens in this area it happens in every sector there's a need for us to look at the principle of federal character educationally disadvantaged state and the rest of it and sharing of resources on the basis of local government because the structure of the local government the local government in the first instance were created by military fiat and we know where the majority of those that were in the supreme military council where they used to come from in the past because if you look at the structure of Nigeria something is really wrong some people are that advantage and some people are disadvantage and we can you know Ziggler said something for us to do the same thing the same manner and expect to get a different result is the beginning of insanity we break every principle of development and growth we break every principle of unity and yet we think Nigeria can be united we think Nigeria can be one the situation whereby my own child is called 245 you will not get admission into what you call a unity school and the child of my friend from Karana Mada we score five you will get admitted into the school fast forward 20 years when they want to be employed the one that score two will be employed my son that score two 45 will not be employed so they are in just this outrageous level our generation might live with it generation coming after us might live with it but it's just a matter of time one generation will wake up and we ask questions you only have one sundaebu you only have one in Namdi Kanu at that particular point in time you have millions of sundaebu you have millions of Namdi Namdi Kanu if we don't address the many injustices that exist in this nation in this contraption because Nigeria is a contraption Nigeria is not the creation of Nigeria it was the creation of the colonial and that's why you could see that some people in the north have affinity with people in the Niger Republic some people in the south west have affinity with people in the public company and some people in the south east particularly in the Kwaibong cross even state they still have their kids and kin in cross even that's why the Chukbakasi to come they still have affinity with people in Cameroon say with people in Yula in a just as if not for extension Yula the other man of Yula will have been in Cameroon the Bokovis and remember that it's during 2015 because it was 2014 where he said that the last part of his empire that's the other man the the traditional law but I can't call his title now the Bokovis empire is in Cameroon that if Nigeria is not okay it can move back to Cameroon so people wake up to ask to ask to ask for that because I don't think federal government should be going to court on this matter is to invite the governors add a national council of state meeting over that matter and resolve this issue and any great be for them to come up with a big they take the view to the national assembly to resolve to resolve this issue politically and so that we can be our brothers and brothers brothers yeah yeah all right you know since where you already mentioned Sunday boy I think you may want to go on with that same discussion it says on the daily independent the federal government is to file fresh charges against Sunday boy so quickly respond to that is still in Benin Republic when are they going to file charges against those that are sponsoring terrorists well to be fair it says on the on the daily son that we've identified and blocked terrorist financiers and that's from the federal government also well I can do one can do the same for Sunday boy Sunday boy sponsoring terrorism now what I'm saying is that I don't support criminality but don't treat some with key glows and don't use light ammo for some that's just it the inconsistency of government in dealing with insurgency in dealing with banditry in dealing with terrorism and in dealing with attempt for service termination or the term for service termination is different and it is clear it's clear for Nigerians to see that government has a double standard when it comes to dealing with issue and it's not good for the polity it's not good for national conscience this nation has a conscience so it's not good and this is what you can say I want to go to a story which I read I don't know and I've said it why would the media be organizing an award it's it's it's unbelievable because there's a story in the son the son is the son then the governor of uber state but they have time to govern that has been running APC how would that person with an award say the son award will motivate me to do more to do what there's nothing for his taste is is is running both APC and running running a state so which one do you think would take much preeminence and priority much priority from him to run one state or to run 36 states including for the capital territory managing the party according to them the largest party in Africa that's how PDK deceives itself and when he gives a large he capsize on within as all of us have I've said that it's just a matter of time with people jumping into the APC ship the ship is becoming heavier and heavier it was something if he has not taken to address some of the issues in Nigeria so I don't I don't understand I don't understand that and how this governor can go to sleep when you have a story that said that pensioners who would salary for 17 months Peder Gomez said did you have money the they don't have how would you not have money to pay pensioners yet we are borrowing money borrowing money we can see the effect of the money we have borrowed we can see the and they have not caught they have not caught cost of government no government has reduced his commissioner we have not reduced we have not reduced the I don't know no I just don't understand all you need to do to see how we waste resources in this country is to look at the convoy of the governor look at the convoy of ministers look at the convoy of commissioners look at the convoy of local government chairman and you ask yourself this question where do they get the resources to maintain this recalling expenditure because these are the current expenditure not capital project you see we break principle and then we expect to get resolved people that have worked for the state can get some of the money that they used to maintain the state house of the state across the federation will pay the pensioner some of the forms the governor's use for security that they are looking for security the security which you can't even see is enough to pay these pensioners and I don't know whether the conscience of a public official their conscience is seared that they can't see well it's seared one you know why in civilized claim is only criminal the use siren to carry our public officials love siren two is only the the the screen their cars you know those that the screen their cars every every action of our public officers on the road is indicative of criminal tendencies because if you look at the way they move it is if you watch movies just watch movies and look at it and see the way they move and compare it with what you have in other crime then you understand that they do have someone why would they know that they spot all on the road the driver exotic cars i said it where which where would you be representing or serving the public and be driving pradu 2021 modem in 2021 what type of public service that what type of mentality is that and you say you are serving the public and you are serving the public you are driving exotic cars is that public service what they should drive should be functional car cars that could be easily maintained but it's there let's go we are not ready at all in this country we are not ready for governors and we are not ready for service because if you are ready all of these issues will be addressed okay jina johnson final words here on on this issue the train to in three elections i'm coming up very quickly and there's still the conversation about e transmission of results on the punch newspaper on the upper left and there's a story here the ogun resident electoral commissioner is saying that a national assembly's approval is unnecessary for a transmission of result and recall the national assembly have asked inek to go ahead and seek approval from the nigerian communications commission the ncc while he's insisting that inek is totally empowered by their constitution to transmit election results electronically without seeking any permission or approval from the ncc so we don't know how long this conversation will continue to go back and forth but here here's what it is at this time yes there's no how long it will go aneta it's very simple the the touch to the touch here the whole of the constitution of federal republic of nigeria give inek is mandated to organize supervise election and so to organize supervise and monitor elections so whatever inek brings into the organization the national assembly does not have results like telling courts that court can stop election and i've argued what's inek fits the date for the election only first major in natural factor will stop it nobody can stop it because that's his mandate it's like saying somebody going to court and saying that the national assembly shouldn't make law to stop them from making law practically impossible because that's court function of the national assembly as enshrined in the constitution the constitution look the word that is even used is enshrined in the constitution is enshrined and once you go to the shrine you perform the ritual so it's it's it's the ritualistic function of inek that cannot be taken away from inek by the courts or by the national assembly or by the executive arm when card reader was introduced for the election or when they started bringing professors to start announcing the result and using people in academic which provisions where did he get the provisions or did the conscience principally stage the date for the election that every election in Nigeria started with second week in february of the electorate no he was stated that it is that power is given for inek to fix the date so what the national what the resident electoral commissioner said is absolutely right or what we just had what the national assembly did is legislative rascality legislative rascality that's what he's just done it's just an attempt in fertility they are just wasting their time okay Judy Johnson as long as inek is both that's why it's called independent national electoral commission for some first we have to give it and it becomes clear as we go to the election those of them that don't want to participate on an electronic transmission of results and let them not participate the election when he declared the result let them sit down at home because you see we must add for us to have public governance we must have free and free election you will recall that the last election there is a city senator still serving in the national assembly whose result was declared under duress the the returning officer said that this result i am declaring this result on that duress and he's still he's still there and nothing has been done to that to that effect and he's now senator serving his people because these people get to public office without getting the actual mandate of people as a result of that they don't represent the people and we have asked this question is democracy actually working in Africa is democracy working in Nigeria as in representative democracy because are the people we call representative are they truly the representative of the people are they truly all right judy johnson the pleasure to be with you my brother thank you very much you know you have a good you have a good Friday uh i i i woke up very very late this morning i went as to i couldn't quickly put on the gen as i have to do voice thank you it's all right judy johnson thank you very much on coming have an interesting weekend ahead thanks